#development | r/Jailbreak | Page 375

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:06 AM

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paper is annoying to dev

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:06 AM

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i firsthand know how good paper is

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 5:06 AM

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Gn

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:06 AM

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but everytime we had to port patches it was pain

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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because of decomp

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gn

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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because of the dumb issue spam

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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i think i've contributed 1 patch??

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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"support 1.14

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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idk

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dont remember

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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"support 1.15

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"support 1.16

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"support snapshot 69w420a

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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didnt realize you were ever on the team

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 AM

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i think the patch record was 1.15

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16 hours

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to port the basic ones

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i know billy galbreath also left

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he made purpur or whatever

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and then the dude that made tuinity i forget

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:08 AM

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oh i never actually contributed patches i just forked it and changed stuff because i wanted some things to be more vanilla

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frcoal

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:08 AM

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lethal kayak didnt realize you were ever on the team

well renaitare was/is a completely new identity

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:08 AM

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lethal kayak oh i never actually contributed patches i just forked it and changed stuff becau...

usually that means disabling the patches that patched dupe glitches uhh

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cuz trust me that happened a lot

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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i did do that once

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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LMAO

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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i mean

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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issue page be like "please let us disable dupe fixes

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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me and the 3 other people that were playing wanted it like that

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i never prd it tho

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cause i actually read the shit in the repo

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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good

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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and in the config

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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we would've rejected it anyways

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 AM

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yeah obvi

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:10 AM

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i wonder who the lead dev is now

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:10 AM

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ye olde bukkit licensing is really annoying though

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is aikar not the lead dev

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:10 AM

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i heard electronicboy stepped down

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yeah its aikar now probably

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:10 AM

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press X to doubt that

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:10 AM

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electronic has spigot issues to worry about

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:10 AM

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last commit was by mr eboy

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:11 AM

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hm ok

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i just hate how dumb bukkit is

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first of all GPL so uhh

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bu then spigot is patch of bukkit

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paper is patch of spigot

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:11 AM

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ye

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:11 AM

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tuinity is patch of paper

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purpur is patch of tuinity

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do u see the problem here

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:11 AM

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oh i was so fucking confused why md_5 contributed so much then i realized it's all merging from spigot upstream lmao

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:11 AM

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lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:12 AM

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poor guy maintaining spigot essentially on his own

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:12 AM

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i might go back to paper

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:12 AM

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lethal kayak poor guy maintaining spigot essentially on his own

well someone brought up the idea of elimming spigot completely

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cuz md5 was considering joining paper

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:12 AM

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hm

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i mean i see a downside to that

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:12 AM

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but then there was also a proposal to ditch bukkit yet maintain compatibility uhh

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yeah the big downside to that is this:

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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the downside is that spigot is basically vanilla + plugins

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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no

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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sfwtwerk

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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with some necessary patches

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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bukkit is the raw api
spigot is stability
paper is performance

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that's pretty much it

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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ye

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except paper also patches dupes and stuff

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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quick question

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who tf asked

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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me

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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in ur plugin gradle u usually reference bukkit unless u actually rely on spigot api

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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seems legit, carry on

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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i use maven build

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:14 AM

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uhh

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get out /s

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:14 AM

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bruh

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java projects are already annoying to setup as is

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:14 AM

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gradle and maven are like npm vs yarn

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:14 AM

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eh

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:14 AM

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they are both good gradle is just newer and faster

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:14 AM

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gradle is much better

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and more features

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but i'm just like

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why use gradle when i dont really need it

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i use it for forge though obviously

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it's just extra bloat for me

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:14 AM

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someone made an intelliJ plugin for auto strapping a plugin

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oh god don't even get me started on the mess that is ForgeGradle

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:15 AM

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well that's why fabric exists

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but fabric is also annoying

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because 90% of things you want to do you have to manually do with mixins

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:15 AM

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atleast there is autocomplete

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fabric api is still really bad

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:15 AM

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ye

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fabric is lightweight at the cost of inter-mod compatibility

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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man im trynna find the anti-bukkit branch of paper

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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man im tryna find where the fuck minecraft's modern renderer is

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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also modding after 1.12 is just kinda uhhhh

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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primal perch man im tryna find where the fuck minecraft's modern renderer is

sodium

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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we still using shitty opengl

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yea but vanilla

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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true tho

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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true

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i get like 2000fps using sodium

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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primal perch man im tryna find where the fuck minecraft's modern renderer is

cancelled

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i forgot what its called

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:16 AM

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bruh wtf did mojang do to mc in 1.13 that made it so much slower

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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LWJGL3

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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haha jk lets just move to vanilla edition guys DX12

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am i right

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troll

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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LWJGL = lightweight java game library

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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ik what lwjgl is

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is that really why

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newer version?

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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if u use MCP and compare 1.12 and 1.13 u can see the serious API changes that LWJGL3 brought

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no

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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loser why just giant lip

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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oh

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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because they refused to rewrite their game

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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yea

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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so its just a bunch of deprecated code

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on LWJGL3

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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like it's so bad to the point where you cant have 5+ people on a vanilla server without server lag

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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yep

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2b2t

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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that's why they're still on 1.12.2 ye

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:17 AM

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well its actually gotten better

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i would say 1.16 is very performant

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but not quite 1.12.2 level yet

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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nah

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1.15 and 1.16 performance are comparable

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1.16 still lags with 5 people on

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mojang is just stubborn

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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ur doing something wrong

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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also the client start times

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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my client starts in like 2 seconds

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:18 AM

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well yea but it's still significantly slower

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it got better in 1.16

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:19 AM

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cuz they are rewriting the game now

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the switch to microsoft accounts will also get rid of some horrible java code in the codebase

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im not even gonna get started into how annoying yggdrasil is/was

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:19 AM

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but also in 1.16 i feel like they offloaded some of the loading they did during the client startup in 1.15 to when you join a world/server in 1.16

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oh trust me i've worked with yggdrasil trying to make fake players

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:19 AM

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all the illicit mojang account crap is over now

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:19 AM

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and extracting skin attributes from players

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:20 AM

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cuz we are using lord msft

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PES2_Pray

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:20 AM

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when the game performs better i'll be happy

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yes it's not an issue on my cpu but

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it is on others

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and on servers

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:20 AM

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tuinity does pretty well with high player counts

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:20 AM

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also can they just add a gamerule for old combat

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i know the new combat system is like

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:20 AM

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https://github.com/Spottedleaf/Tuinity

GitHub

Spottedleaf/Tuinity

Contribute to Spottedleaf/Tuinity development by creating an account on GitHub.

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:20 AM

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deeply engraved into the current code

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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i like the new combat update

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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but literally just make some type of thing that allows servers to use old combat so we can stop with all the 1.8-1.16 bullshit

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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lethal kayak also can they just add a gamerule for old combat <:fr:712506651520925698>

this actually exists

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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?

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not the attack speed

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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u can't enable it

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its internal

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because of that combat test snapshot

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its just sitting there

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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i mean 1.8 combat

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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well the hybrid is as close as we are getting

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:21 AM

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not combat test combat

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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1.8 pvp makes no sense now that i think about it

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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ik but i'm saying add a way for servers to enable 1.8 pvp

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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winning for being able to click the fastest is stupid

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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troll

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true

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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1.9 pvp literally feels like you're playing civ 6 it's like turn based combat

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i'm not gonna argue about it tho cause i've already done that many times

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:22 AM

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paper was a hassle for 1.9

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well "paperspigot"

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one thing that still bothers me to this day is the identifier lol

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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spigot for 1.8 tho

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dmca

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troll

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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com.destroystokyo

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who tf destroys tokyo

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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me

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weebs

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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blackspigot

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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true

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NO

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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lmfao

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:23 AM

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blackspigot lmao

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with all the MCMMO uploads on there

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people dont' realize its open source and builds are on the jenkins server

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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gonna put wannacry inside a blackspigot plugin

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TrollFront

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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press win + ctrl + shift + b for free cum

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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oh god

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Damn I kinda want to play Mc again but idk

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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there was a prposed thing to ban blackspigot plugins from paper

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but that's too complicated

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you wouldneed a system like sponge's ore repository

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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it's also dumb because paper is open source and anyone can just remove the patch

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not worth the effort

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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yeah but like 80% of people don't know/care how to build it

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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I was such a nuisance to smp

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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granted it takes like 5 hours to build it but

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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no?

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what

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are u ok?

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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Duping and on top the of the nether, I was such a hassle

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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have you heard of an exaggeration

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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faint timber Duping and on top the of the nether, I was such a hassle

lmao

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:25 AM

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it takes like 5 minutes

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5 hours is a bit too much

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:26 AM

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decomps on shitty laptop cpu take fucking forever

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even on normal cpu

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:26 AM

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L

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:26 AM

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it took me at least 15 minutes to build

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including decomp and stuff

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:26 AM

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i wonder if they flattened paper

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:26 AM

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I wonder how a 16 core would build

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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aww they flattened the paper bin

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one night there was a huge fuckup

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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probably pretty damn fast assming they can utilize that many

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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with like 30 commits on it

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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sub 1 minute

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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me when i can build llvm in the same amount of time as paper

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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uhh

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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We need a better version of plugman that doesn’t break shit

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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plugman

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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faint timber We need a better version of plugman that doesn’t break shit

hard if the plugin uses reflection

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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just use pufferpanel

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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r7 6700x next year gonna be what i upgrade to probably

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Oh god

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:27 AM

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instead of something in the API

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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Essentials reflection hooks 💩

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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uhh

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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honestly tho props to md_5 for sticking with spigot after the dmca

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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essentials is so bad

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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if not mc would've hard died probably

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unless sponge picked up more traction

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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eh

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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I don’t know the history

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What happened

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:28 AM

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here's the history you need to know

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bukkit sucked

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got jebaited by mojang

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then taken down

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Bukkit was nastalgia

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:29 AM

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salty bukkit developer dmcas the project because he didnt know they were owned by mojang so he was technically working for mojang for free

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which i mean

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sort of understandable

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:29 AM

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wait what

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Who’s owned by what now

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:29 AM

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mojang basically started funding the bukkit project

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behind the scenes

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:30 AM

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So Microsoft

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:30 AM

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not at the time

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:30 AM

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no one owns anything now

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https://www.spigotmc.org/wiki/unofficial-explanation-about-the-dmca/

Unofficial Explanation About the DMCA | SpigotMC - High Performance...

The home of Spigot a high performance, no lag customized CraftBukkit Minecraft server API, and BungeeCord, the cloud server proxy.

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 5:30 AM

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Interesting

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:30 AM

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here just read this

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:31 AM

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ah yeah

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i remember now

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got a couple of facts wrong but essentially the same other than that mojang was even more of a bad guy

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:31 AM

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the DMCA is why md5 started using atlassian stash on the spigotmc website

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he realized how unstable github could be

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:31 AM

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yeah

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interestingly enough mojang did this less than a month before microsoft bought them

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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buildtools and paperclip are such hacks lmao

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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yea

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it's really annoying

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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its funny tho

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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though

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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patrickmock

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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because of all the shit it goes through

primal perch Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Patrickpain

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:32 AM

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i know paper is currently trying to ditch the bukkit API for their internal use

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so then they can transfer to their own thing and make a shim or compatibility thing

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man as soon as mojang touched it everything broke

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:34 AM

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well technically once it became public that they were touching it

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:34 AM

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mojang was balls deep in bukki

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t

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:35 AM

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cant they just rewrite wolvereness's code

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:35 AM

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too much work

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:35 AM

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even if it's like 50% of the api

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i mean i feel like making a new api + a shim is more work than that

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:35 AM

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well they could rewrite it rn

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but paper is rich with developers and monkeys

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so its something they want to do

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maybe

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:35 AM

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🐒

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:35 AM

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u konw

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i should get back

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return to pepr

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ah yes pepr

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:36 AM

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pepr

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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ultra

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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?

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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lets make pepr

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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oh god

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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peprmc.io

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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a fork of paper

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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no

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new API + shim

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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gpl is the most successful computer worm in the world

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:37 AM

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lol

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 5:38 AM

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has mojang fixed the fallingblock dupe yet

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with the end portal

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lmao when you really look at it most of the minecraft code is outdated/bad

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even the 3rd party projects

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but it's still a great game

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 7:54 AM

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Im back

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Mostly sober this time

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And hungry

surreal mountain Jan 15, 2021, 7:59 AM

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gm

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go get some food

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@grave sparrow gm

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go

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d

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 8:03 AM

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surreal mountain go get some food

No its 3am

surreal mountain Jan 15, 2021, 8:04 AM

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L

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true

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 8:04 AM

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I could but

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No :(

surreal mountain Jan 15, 2021, 8:05 AM

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rip

faint timber Jan 15, 2021, 8:52 AM

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who holds the untitled-1 record

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lime pivot Jan 15, 2021, 11:17 AM

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think I racked up a week once tbh

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 11:52 AM

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please

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uhoh

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grim sparrow Jan 15, 2021, 12:31 PM

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Pog

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 12:34 PM

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macos borked

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frozen for 10 minutes bc it’s trying to open 700 processes at once bc i hard-powered it off

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nvm it’s still shitting the bed without that on startup wtf

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literally can’t even use my mouse

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now it’s just intermittent freezing

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no indication of anything in activity monitor

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like something is running net operations on the main thread and it’s failing cuz my hotspot decided to stop working

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be cool if i could yknow do work and stuff

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it works when i route the entire thing through a VM

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lord

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so if i run macos in a VM on windows, then...

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 1:04 PM

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half walrus so if i run macos in a VM on windows, then...

in WOA or another machine?

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:06 PM

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my desktop

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trying to get networking routed through my hotspot on windows

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only works on macos

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which in turn works when i boot my windows drive in Fusion

smoky bluff Jan 15, 2021, 1:09 PM

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yoshi

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:09 PM

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wondering if i can pass USB and one of my USB ethernet adapters through to a mac VM

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that’s so jank

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nvm can’t download vmware

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no internet

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shit

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wonder if i can get PCSX2 running in macos

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 1:16 PM

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would be interesting to see snapdragon boot macOS, but it would be impossible lul

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update: I woke up and checked my computer. IDA had stopped not responding but when I clicked my mouse it started to not respond again

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 1:18 PM

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f

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 1:18 PM

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Starting to just think I should force close it and reopen the database and import the structs as needed

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:24 PM

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ok

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so

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my mac freezes intermittently but only when i connect to my phone’s hotspot

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unfreezes when i hit the hotspot toggle in ios settings

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apple

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ok the vm doesnt freeze though

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so i just do all my work from here

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neato

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 1:33 PM

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nfrcoal

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:34 PM

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installing wsl

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in windows

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in macos

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wait

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can i ssh into the host

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 1:35 PM

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no idea

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:37 PM

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catJam

📎 unknown.png

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someone somewhere is crying

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bc of this

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wait can i

grim sparrow Jan 15, 2021, 1:41 PM

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VibeCat

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why is yours a lower quality

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smh

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vibecat

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:43 PM

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sigh

📎 unknown.png

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vscode remote on windows in a vm to the mac running the VM

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because

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i wanna go back to sleep now

wicked summit Jan 15, 2021, 1:44 PM

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go to sleep

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it'll be there in the morning

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:44 PM

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it is the morning

wicked summit Jan 15, 2021, 1:44 PM

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or afternoon

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:44 PM

#

its 8 am

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i woke up an hour or two ago

wicked summit Jan 15, 2021, 1:44 PM

#

sleep

half walrus Jan 15, 2021, 1:45 PM

#

i slept for 14 hours

wicked summit Jan 15, 2021, 1:45 PM

#

that's too little

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 1:56 PM

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man i want 14 hours

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anyways today is friday and after that i get a 5 day break

wicked summit Jan 15, 2021, 2:17 PM

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gaunt mesa anyways today is friday and after that i get a 5 day break

damn some of my friends have a 5 day break too

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I only get MLK day woeis

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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i have 2 tests before this break

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woeis

wicked summit Jan 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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rip

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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well ist the end of the marking period

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so they have teacher workday

wicked summit Jan 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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ahh

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fuck em teachers

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~~actually I like most of my teachers~~

grim sparrow Jan 15, 2021, 3:14 PM

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📎 ErwXmQdXYAEOSGm.png

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mood

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 3:19 PM

#

what the

#

vibeok

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 3:28 PM

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Hex rays max commas option is so helpful holy shit

grim sparrow Jan 15, 2021, 3:31 PM

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royal oak Jan 15, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Question anyone know a good frida discord server or is an expert. I am trying to edit a specific return address with frida and it does not seem to commit back to the thread context

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Frida issues in github is all i know

#

Or you can message the dev on twitter. Which i dont recommend

grim sparrow Jan 15, 2021, 3:58 PM

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lol

royal oak Jan 15, 2021, 3:58 PM

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lol

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Hes a nice guy tho

royal oak Jan 15, 2021, 3:59 PM

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yeah but i am sure he is busy too xD. These blasted docs imply what i have done is legal but nothing

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 3:59 PM

#

https://t.me/fridadotre

Frida

You can view and join @fridadotre right away.

#

Here

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📎 image0.jpg

#

Thats a telegram server.

royal oak Jan 15, 2021, 4:01 PM

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yeah i am sketched by telegram lol

#

hmm well i will try i guess

zinc yoke Jan 15, 2021, 4:05 PM

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royal oak hmm well i will try i guess

dont use telegram, use signal

royal oak Jan 15, 2021, 4:06 PM

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lol i don't know these chat apps xD

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I just need help :p

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:12 PM

#

You cant join telegram group with signal

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:13 PM

#

royal oak lol i don't know these chat apps xD

Dude just use telegram. How are you sketched by it. Its a great app and does what you need

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:14 PM

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telegram vibeok

royal oak Jan 15, 2021, 4:14 PM

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I am sketched because it asks to divert all of my calls to be processed through telegram

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that have an irc chat that hopefully i can use

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:16 PM

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royal oak I am sketched because it asks to divert all of my calls to be processed through ...

Just use textfree number

#

You can set it to so noone can see your phone number ever

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:18 PM

#

IDA FINISHED

#

AFTER ALMOST 20 HOURS

#

worth the wait

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

tepid olive AFTER ALMOST 20 HOURS

uhh

#

20 hours holy fuck

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

let me show you

#

the results

#

gimme a sec

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

Alright

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

586k symbolicated functions

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280k structs

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

God damnnnnnnn

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:19 PM

#

I am sorting the functions list hold on

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:20 PM

#

tepid olive AFTER ALMOST 20 HOURS

the fuck were you doing lol

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:20 PM

#

Cod....

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:23 PM

#

📎 image0.jpg

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Pretty much complete source code reconstruction

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:24 PM

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tepid olive the fuck were you doing lol

dumped cod mobile symbols and structs and put them into ida but the script was over 100mb and there were over 280k structs so it took 20 hours to get its shit together

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:24 PM

#

Damn do you use max commas -1?

#

“1”*

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:24 PM

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Nah i think it's 8 for me

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:25 PM

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Looks nice ngl

#

Readable

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:25 PM

#

fr

zinc yoke Jan 15, 2021, 4:25 PM

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burnt niche Dude just use telegram. How are you sketched by it. Its a great app and does wha...

cause its run by a russian company and doesnt even use e2e by default unlike signal and even whatsapp

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:25 PM

#

this was so worth it omg

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so glad I didnt skip out

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:25 PM

#

zinc yoke cause its run by a russian company and doesnt even use e2e by default unlike sig...

Didnt know that

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:26 PM

#

3gb database holy shit lol

zinc yoke Jan 15, 2021, 4:26 PM

#

yeah not great, whatsapp is probably beetter

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:26 PM

#

that's p cool

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:26 PM

#

Damn. For uikitcore the database was 600mb

#

And the binary was 18mb i think

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:27 PM

#

this bin was 161

#

161mb

#

I thought it was just obfuscated

#

turns out it's 161mb worth of compiled code

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:27 PM

#

gm

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:27 PM

#

Gm

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:27 PM

#

oh yeah cod is pretty complicated

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:28 PM

#

not on mobile 🤣

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literally no encryption what so ever

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:28 PM

#

true

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:28 PM

#

I made an aimbot in 2019 and i want to update it

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:28 PM

#

but i mostly meant infinity ward games

#

this is the secret treyarch devops cycle leaked:

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copy paste old game engine
hire some monkeys to make new maps actually mostly just remasters
make horrible weapons that are overpowered
take over warzone and be assholes

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:29 PM

#

📎 video0.mov

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:30 PM

#

god ofc its cold war maps now

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:30 PM

#

That's raid from bo2

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:30 PM

#

no cap tho most people wouldn't even need an aimbot

#

raid remastered is on cold war

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:31 PM

#

I know it's just fun to make

#

oh really

#

wow

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:31 PM

#

refer to my leaked treyarch devops cycle

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point 2

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u know im hopping on actual cod

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im bored

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:41 PM

#

tepid olive I made an aimbot in 2019 and i want to update it

woeuhh WHYYY

#

Wall hacks eta wen

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:42 PM

#

sell it to them kids

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they'll pay 3$ each

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sofuckingfunny

#

or 5/7.50$ even

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

Tr2fecta the money man

#

😂😂

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

YES

#

i am broke tho

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

After all them shoes

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

burnt niche <:woeuhh:712507266590572605> WHYYY

for fun nothing gets released btw

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

i bought 1200 euro worth of shoes saddecry

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

I grew out of releasing hax a long time ago

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

Thank god

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:43 PM

#

and i am about to buy another 1600 euro tomorrow!!!

#

pogCrazy

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

Ur a nut job tr2

#

😂

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

Do u resell?

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

yes ofc

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

Oh okay then i understand

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:44 PM

#

i aint keeping all these wtf

#

other than the 6 boxes i have which im holding

#

i gotta quickflip these

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

Is it profit 100% of the time or do u lose money on some

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

i have only lost 56 euro once on supreme

#

but for the rest profit

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:45 PM

#

misty cradle i have only lost 56 euro once on supreme

bc i have the tshirt still

#

if i tend to lose money, i just return em

#

ez

#

tomorrow they releasing air jordan 1 volts here with at least 30/40/50 profit each, so if you count that up, 20 pairs x 50 euro profit = 1k profit

#

PES_EvilRondo

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:46 PM

#

Damn nice bro

#

Invest that money zoop

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:47 PM

#

true

#

investing everything

#

s&i is what i call it

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:49 PM

#

I am trying to get a job

#

Other wise im gonna run out of money paying for this car

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:49 PM

#

same

#

i need to get one for job experience

#

and some nice side money to invest / buy food

#

my entire CV literally be like:
blank

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:50 PM

#

I am trying to get a internship soon

#

Right now i am learning c++ at school

#

I just gotta finish it and take a advanced c++ class

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:51 PM

#

true good luck

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:51 PM

#

Glad i took c++ n not python

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:51 PM

#

python can be very useful

#

im in the process of re-learning it properly now

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

Yes but i want to learn c++ first

#

Which is very useful

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 4:52 PM

#

it’s only as useful as you can apply it, else it’s just useless

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:53 PM

#

Yea true. But i have my personal projects thought as along with class projects

#

So i am learning rapidly. C++ is not that hard its just the weird syntax but its not so bad

#

Because i actually enjoy it ngl

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 4:54 PM

#

i guess that’s good

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

Yea the problem would just thinking of it as a class.. but i actually want to take this opportunity to learn. So i am going out of my way to learn it

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

misty cradle i bought 1200 euro worth of shoes <:saddecry:598033091268837396>

uhh

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

gaunt mesa <:uhh:696449618539708548>

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 4:55 PM

#

this deserves infinite uhh s

misty cradle Jan 15, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

they will probably get cancelled anyways but if not im lucky and big money

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:56 PM

#

I didn’t know in c++ uninitialized variables are just random things in memory

#

In objective c/swift they are set to nil by default right?

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 4:57 PM

#

afaik no, undeclared things are just that: undeclared and unknown

#

if you declare vars and set a breakpoint right after, peek into them with lldb and you’ll see

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

Really? If i set int x and dont set a value

#

N print it . Its some random number

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 4:58 PM

#

well this would be the point where I’d say you’d need to read into how C works because it just be C tings

#

or rather conceptual things about programming and how or what even a variable is to a computer

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 4:59 PM

#

Yea probably. I sent a email to my professor saying why we dont learn c first and he said yea i know. But its just the district wants c++

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:00 PM

#

They’re both similar so a certain extent so it really doesn’t matter

#

you can just do c style programming in c++

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:01 PM

#

Yea. But i understand when u declare a variable. The computer makes space in memory for that said variable so you can store it

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:01 PM

#

frninja

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:03 PM

#

I’d recommend reading Brian Kerninghan’s C book. It’ll elaborate on your questions hopefully better than anyone here since you’ll get short explanations.
On the other hand, whether you do cpp or whatever, it’ll remain up to you to work on a target in your free time whether it’s adapting your code to C or similar to manifest other skills

#

if district wants cpp, spend your free time with converting your code into pure c

#

one thing that remains is people should probably know is that after the honeymoon phase ends where every lang looks shiny and new and great to apply, unless you keep up it’ll all be a waste of time for a skill you won’t enjoy later in life

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

honeymoon phase lol

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

idk didn’t have a better analogy lmao, people drop in wanna make tweaks and yeet after two years of not having success compiling a tweak which shows an alert

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:04 PM

#

kek

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

The course is 4 months long so after that i ll probably start going straight into C. But yea i also am looking into c as well

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

tardy narwhal idk didn’t have a better analogy lmao, people drop in wanna make tweaks and yeet...

Facts

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

lmao rip 4 months are too little

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

True

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

grab the c book and learn on your own, best methodology

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:05 PM

#

But i spend like 7 hrs a day. And yea i am reading the C book soon

#

I was planning on reading c++ primer first

#

I have it “downloaded” already

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:06 PM

#

👍🏽 well then i hope programming remains a hobby you’ll enjoy and that it’ll yield fruits for you

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:07 PM

#

I hope so too, honestly its really fun even though i am figuring out compiling/runtime errors 24/7 uhh

#

The thing i love is that you learn more each day

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:08 PM

#

well debugging’s the autistic addition you’ll have to live with, it’s like a pimple on the butcheek

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:08 PM

#

tardy narwhal well debugging’s the autistic addition you’ll have to live with, it’s like a pim...

Great example😂

tardy narwhal Jan 15, 2021, 5:09 PM

#

As you can see I lost my sanity a while back, running on auto-pilot when opening an IDE like ms paint

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:10 PM

#

Mspaint😂😂

#

Great update while i am doing homework. Windows 10/10

📎 image0.jpg

#

@twilit jungle dghost getting recognition even in colleges uhh

twilit jungle Jan 15, 2021, 5:18 PM

#

wtf

#

fakenews

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 5:36 PM

#

burnt niche Great update while i am doing homework. Windows 10/10

Get windows 10 pro so you changes updates and that, lol.

nocturne yacht Jan 15, 2021, 5:40 PM

#

Get Linux

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:41 PM

#

get arch linux bro its the best operating system bro just get linux bro

#

https://tenor.com/view/hax-gif-19007990

Tenor

nocturne yacht Jan 15, 2021, 5:43 PM

#

Get Debian

#

Cuz it’s good

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:47 PM

#

@upper wigeon

#

gm

#

lurkerman

upper wigeon Jan 15, 2021, 5:47 PM

#

gm

#

purge linux

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:47 PM

#

hows brenbreak going

#

upper wigeon Jan 15, 2021, 5:47 PM

#

done. need substitute

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:48 PM

#

wtf

upper wigeon Jan 15, 2021, 5:48 PM

#

been that way for 2 years now 😎

#

i make minecraft mods now. don't have to rely on other people and i guess and it's more fun

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:51 PM

#

frninja

nocturne yacht Jan 15, 2021, 5:52 PM

#

fr

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:53 PM

#

oh

#

i should make minecraft mods

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:53 PM

#

people that use linux as their main OS uhh

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:53 PM

#

i tried like 6 years and was too dumb to do it but i bet i could now

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:53 PM

#

"too dumb"

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:53 PM

#

yes

#

too dumb

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:54 PM

#

maybe you were the person on spigotmc that got banned for writing porn plugins

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:54 PM

#

wtf

#

only problem is that its java

#

uhh

#

fuck java

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:54 PM

#

uhh no

#

imagine not writing ur plugins in kotlin smh

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:54 PM

#

can you write them in c

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:54 PM

#

well it depends

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:54 PM

#

id write mods in c

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:54 PM

#

but definetely not for bukkit api plugins

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

i mean for forge modloader

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

but for something like CMCSCErVCer

#

u could

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

lethal ice https://tenor.com/view/hax-gif-19007990

uhh

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

lethal ice i mean for forge modloader

no

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

rip

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

the only way to do stuff with forge is via forgegradle

#

so u can't even use maven unless u want to die

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

why cant microsoft transition to c# like they did with bedrock

#

runs so much better

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

wtf

#

no

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

id write mods in c#

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

gaunt mesa the only way to do stuff with forge is via forgegradle

Also known as gradlew.

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:55 PM

#

?

#

no?

#

gradlew isn't specific to forge

#

that's on every gradle project

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:56 PM

#

java runtime overhead is fucking massive and slow

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:56 PM

#

lethal ice java runtime overhead is fucking massive and slow

shut up we get it you get bothered if an application is using 1 bit of extra memory sofuckingfunny

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:56 PM

#

it literally takes gigabytes of ram and multiple 10s of minutes to load modpacks

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:56 PM

#

no lmao

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:56 PM

#

stfu bruh

#

java is the bane of technology

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:56 PM

#

my skyfactory 4 runs in 4gb of ram

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

gaunt mesa no?

I have made minecraft mods, lol, some mods you a special forge gradlew. Different from the original gradlew.

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

FOUR GIGABYTES

#

OF RAM

#

FOR MINECRAFt

#

thats fucking horrendous

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

that's max

#

it usually uses like 1-2

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

%property (nonatomic, retain) UIMenuItem *quikPaste;

self.quikPaste = [[UIMenuItem alloc] initWithTitle:@"QUIK" action:@selector(pasteIt)];
    [%c(UIMenuController) sharedMenuController].menuItems = [NSArray arrayWithObject:self.quikPaste];``` can someone tell me why this might be wrong. I am trying to add a uimenuitem to the uicalloutbar

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

dude

#

ive played so much modded minecraft

#

it's horrendous

#

and load times are even more so

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

burnt niche ```objc %property (nonatomic, retain) UIMenuItem *quikPaste; self.quikPaste = [...

On what app?

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

well

#

mojang isn't writing the game in C#

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:57 PM

#

there is no valid argument for using java for something like minecraft

#

bedrock is c# though

#

and its fast

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

bedrock was made far after the development of java edition started

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

and c# is slow compared to c

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

i don't think you realize how bad java edition code is

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

i want it to show up on every app @tepid olive so thats why i have hooked into uicalloutbar

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

i do realize

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

and that mojang is just starting to try and fix it now

#

after they ported the game to LWJGL3 they realized how bad the code is

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

they just need to do a full rewrite

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

they can't

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:58 PM

#

they can

#

they dont want to

#

but then everything would have to transition over

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:59 PM

#

not really

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:59 PM

#

it's like why they're still using mainframe at american express

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:59 PM

#

this is why SWIFT still uses cobalt and pascal

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:59 PM

#

systems built on top of it

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 5:59 PM

#

why can't they do a full rewrite i dont get it

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 5:59 PM

#

^

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 5:59 PM

#

it's not that they can't or won't

#

it's that it doesn't make sense

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:00 PM

#

it really does

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:00 PM

#

it's not like 99.9999% of the MC community is complaining about performance

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:00 PM

#

if my computer can run black ops 2 perfectly why tf is it struggling with minecraft

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:00 PM

#

uhhhhhhhhhh

#

exactly

#

the ram usage is just disgusting

#

load times are my biggest complaint

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:00 PM

#

okay then complain

#

ur not gonna change anything

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:00 PM

#

java is the definition of redundant

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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lmfao

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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lol java is still used in a lot of important things

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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facts. rewrite in c++ troll

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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doesnt mean they should be using java

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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in 2009 it wasn't a bad idea

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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java is just a lazy man's c#

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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java came before c# tho

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:01 PM

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wtf

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:02 PM

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i mean they should transition over. it makes no sense for them not to. i think they just don't want to do the hard work and spend money since the game is making them all of money still so why would they change it

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:02 PM

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this is the same thing as checkra1n

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if it works they have no reason to change

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and so they won't end of story

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:02 PM

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people just see things written in java and think it's an excuse to write shitty unoptimized terrible code in languages that aren't meant for production uses

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:03 PM

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java isn't meant for production use?

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:03 PM

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i don't think java belongs in a game imo

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:03 PM

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i dont think the java devs intended that minecraft would be using gigabytes of ram when it could be less than 1gb

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:03 PM

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that can be said for a lot of things

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:03 PM

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yes

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and its a problem

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modern developers are fucking shit

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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imagine if minecraft was written in cpp

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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imagine

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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okay then take a time machine back to 1960 and stfu

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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please

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get me a time machine

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and i will

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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uhh

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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reynay a hardcore minecraft fan

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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?

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no?

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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you just like java?

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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just because computers are better today doesnt mean resources should be wasted on emulating java

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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facts

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but you can't do anything about it

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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nintendo knows whats up they still optimize just like they used to

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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i never said either of those things, i just said mojang has no reason to rewrite minecraft atm

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doesn't mean i like java or minecraft

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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true

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i said that too

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it still makes them money

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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do u know how many headaches there were at paper because of stupid java things

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:06 PM

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huh

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:06 PM

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PaperMC

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:06 PM

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idk what that is

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:06 PM

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super optimized minecraft server software

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literally holds majority in that market now

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:06 PM

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"super optimized" and "java" dont go together

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:06 PM

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honestly games should be using a low level language anyways to optimize speed

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:07 PM

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lethal ice "super optimized" and "java" dont go together

"super optimized considering its a mojang application on the JVM"

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:07 PM

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if games were all written in c++ that would be so great

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i bet this laptop could run most games

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:07 PM

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write your own minecraft then

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:07 PM

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no

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:07 PM

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exactly

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:07 PM

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well nothing is gonna get done by just complaining about it

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something that people never seem to realize lol

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:08 PM

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i will feel better

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:08 PM

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burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:08 PM

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i thought this is just a discussion. we re not out here protesting lmao

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:08 PM

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what the fuck am i gonna do to change it

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so might as well complain

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:08 PM

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i dont look at it as complaining but just a healthy discussion honestly

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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well i know mojang is switching it up now

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the msft accounts sdk they are using is definetely not the java one

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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wait isn't there a minecraft that doesn't run on java

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the handicapped one

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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bedrock edition

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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everything even websites now are built to run on high end machines which is just a fuck you to anyone who doesnt have a nice machine

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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yea

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what is bedrock written in

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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c#

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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C++

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oh

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actually yeah probably C#

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the engine is written in C++

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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c# is slow compared to c++, but compared to java its light speed

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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its in c++ i think

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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oh yea its c++

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nvm

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no wonder its so fast

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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@lethal ice btw the blaze engine is being written in C++ again

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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blaze engine?

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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which is the 1.15+ game engine

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yes

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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idk what that is

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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It's a version of the game written in C++ instead of java. It is also the version of Minecraft that the developers say is the main game, instead of the java version.

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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there you go

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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"main game"

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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even the devs know java is shit

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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lethal ice idk what that is

it's the custom renderer they use

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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oh

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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lmfao exactly they must know that @lethal ice

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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burnt niche ```It's a version of the game written in C++ instead of java. It is also the ver...

lmao this is so false, java edition is still the major version

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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i know reynay

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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gaunt mesa lmao this is so false, java edition is still the major version

Yep

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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@lethal ice i'm pretty sure that after they finish blaze engine they won't change anything else tho

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beacuse the end goal is still to merge them

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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thats why i said "main game"

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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i hope they get rid of java edition

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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fax

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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then ill write a modloader in c

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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once both APIs are compatible the games are gonna be merged

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:12 PM

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nice

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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honestly tho if a good modloader doesn't come up i'll be disappointed

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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imagine minecraft running smoothly on intel integrated graphics widepeepoHappy4

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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cuz like compared to fabric, forge is still better even tho its slower

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because of its API and stuff

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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burnt niche imagine minecraft running smoothly on intel integrated graphics <:widepeepoHappy...

i can run skyfactory 4 on my macbook pro base model except for upgraded ram with a stable 60fps

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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upgraded ram

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uhh

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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a 1.5ghz processor

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uhh

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this is without optifine

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📎 unknown.png

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integrated graphics and i have 0 issues

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:14 PM

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i have i3 16gb ram. hd 620. bO2 runs perfectly

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:14 PM

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imagine needing 16gb of ram to run a game released in 2011

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:14 PM

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that's not why i need 16gb of ram

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i need 16gb of ram because i have crap like discord running 24/7

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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i need 16gb for my multitasking/dev use

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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fuck discord

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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exactly

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fuck discord

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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and the last time i quit safari and closed all my tabs was like 5 months ago

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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discord is another example of shitty fucking code

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written in electron

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fuck electron

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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how many tabs you got

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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discord is inexcusable

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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@everyone fuck electron

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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bruh electron is fine

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vscode runs fine

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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uhh

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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yea vscode runs good

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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uhh

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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Minecraft java edition is the only valid reason to use java

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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^

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:15 PM

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if vscode was native it would open in 1 millisecond

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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neovim

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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@tepid olive did you know what i was doing wrong in that code i sent ?

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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lethal ice if vscode was native it would open in 1 millisecond

then use a native text editor

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neovim > true

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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if discord was native it would open in 1 millisecond

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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I love neovim so much after I installed cock

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Sorry I mean coc

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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vim or nano

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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scoob do u know what money is

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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Nano is boring

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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u should know its expensive to hire developers for each platform

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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What's money

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Developers are free

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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i dont think discord is struggling with money

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:16 PM

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notepad > vim

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notepad++>vscode

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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bruh literally econ 101

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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No one needs money

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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maximizing profit

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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clueless

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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it would take like 5 days to have a dev team write a native app for discord

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boo hoo

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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okay but think about this

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why should they spend money to hire people for that when they can have more money not doing that

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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uhh

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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It's simple

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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it's not like a majority of discord users care

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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i know how fucking econ works

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Yep

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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oh "discord is written like trash it takes 2.22222 seconds to start"

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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gaunt mesa it's not like a majority of discord users care

That's what I was typing and it's sad

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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2.2 seconds??????????????

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try 45 seconds

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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i was being sarcastic

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Ok for me it's about 5-7

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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its about 10 for me

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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if i have something else open, discord takes minutes to load

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thats unacceptable

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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oaky "updating discord 1 out of 2000 updates"

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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lethal ice if i have something else open, discord takes minutes to load

How

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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then use ripcord or something

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and stop complaining

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simple

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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on this 2016 laptop

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no

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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Oh ok

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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gaunt mesa then use ripcord or something

till you get API banned lmaoo

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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im not gonna use some shitty 3rd party discord client

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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https://cancel.fm/ripcord/

Ripcord: Desktop Chat Client

Ripcord is a desktop chat client for Slack and Discord. It provides a traditional compact desktop interface designed for power users.

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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ripcord is fine

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:18 PM

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i use discord canary

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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I use goosemod on canary

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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tf is that

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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what's goosemod

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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how do you not see the problem

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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i see it

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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not you

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renai

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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Goosemod is like a mod but it's tethered and also very unlikely to ban

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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i wanna try to get system electron on macOS but couldn't do it

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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@gentle grove what can it do

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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i do see the problem but there is no reasonable solution for it

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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there is a very reasonable solution

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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tepid olive i wanna try to get system electron on macOS but couldn't do it

I have it on my arch machine because there's an AUR package

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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but discord too lazy to do it

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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and the problem isn't big enough where a majority of people care

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:19 PM

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discord-canary-electron-bin

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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lethal ice but discord too lazy to do it

this is literally every company

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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i think 99% of users would be very happy with a native app

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Yes

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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u said u take econ

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u know how long run profit works

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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netflix made a native app, it's so fucking fast

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open netflix right now

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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lethal ice i think 99% of users would be very happy with a native app

I've talked to other people and they were defending discord so

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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less than half a second

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Saying discord is one of the best written programs

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clueless

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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uhh

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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gentle grove I've talked to other people and they were defending discord so

ok the problem with saying 99% of users would be happy doens't mean that currenlty 99% of users are bothered by it

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Yes

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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ofc everyone would appreciate something that's better

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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Tha tts what ima saying

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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because they dont know what they';re missing

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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I'm saying 99% of peop don't care

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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discord is fine if you consider teams exists

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:20 PM

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but that doesn't mean everyone hates the current implementations

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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they just assume that discord is doing some big brain shit behind the scenes when its literally loading node modules

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fucking useless

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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It's modern software

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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@gentle grove does goosemod work on stable

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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That's how people are

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Lazy

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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"modern" software means slow

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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gaunt mesa <@!115076234869735428> does goosemod work on stable

Yes

lethal ice Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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and lazy

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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lethal ice "modern" software means slow

True

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Exactly

burnt niche Jan 15, 2021, 6:21 PM

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installing goosemod rn

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:22 PM

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powercord just feels better tbf

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:22 PM

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powercord is trash

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especially after the entire thing got hacked

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powercord is literal garbage

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yes

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:22 PM

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gaunt mesa especially after the entire thing got hacked

how

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:23 PM

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bruh

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its in their discord server

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:23 PM

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ripcord is fine it's just fuckin ugly

📎 Screen_Shot_2021-01-15_at_1.23.41_PM.png

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and inefficient

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Bruh

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:24 PM

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goosemod seems cool

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especially the installation

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i love that

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:24 PM

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i'll try to use it again

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but like

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QT

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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yo this is cool

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dang

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Goosemod is the simple way that works well

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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boba this is hot

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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I use like 3 modules on it

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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yes it's native

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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ripcord does feel much better than discord in speed

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Qt is cute

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Literally

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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i always call it Q T even tho it's supposed to be cute

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:25 PM

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how do i uninstalla nd reinstall this

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Dame

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Same

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

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gaunt mesa how do i uninstalla nd reinstall this

I think you just remove the thing you did to to install

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

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well yeah it's faster because it's not a literal web browser

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and it's native

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

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gentle grove I think you just remove the thing you did to to install

i wanna delete my installation tho

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like which directory is that at

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

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Well the goosemod related stuff is just in discord's electron browser storage

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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true

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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h

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oh

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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just wish they had proper emote scaling

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and round pfp

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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I gtg

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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can't you like use DYLD instead

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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you pick - faster, worse-looking client with the potential to get banned, or slow client with nice UI

tepid olive Jan 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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you won't get banned lol

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unless you have a shit ton of accounts

gaunt mesa Jan 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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no that didn't work boba

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lmao

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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Goosemod so good

lethal kayak Jan 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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i said potential as ripcord is technically against discord TOS

gentle grove Jan 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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gaunt mesa no that didn't work boba

The .config/discordcanary dir (idk on macOS or windows)