#development | r/Jailbreak | Page 306

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Probably because of the way he implemented it

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:39 AM

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^

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:39 AM

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where is the MediaRemote widget where

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:39 AM

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just refreshed my spotify widget twice in 10 seconds from the desktop app

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 5:39 AM

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The new API allows developers to specify time frames (I don't remember the exact term official API used atm) that represents how widgets should look at different times. It also allows developers to specify when it should request for new time frames.

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:39 AM

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they kinda dropped the ball by not allowing at least a little interaction with widgets

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 5:39 AM

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So if you do it right, you can get it to update it whenever you want.

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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im assuming that's what clock widget does

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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restive ether they kinda dropped the ball by not allowing at least a little interaction with w...

that's where we come in

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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restive ether they kinda dropped the ball by not allowing at least a little interaction with w...

ah so this is why a media player widget would essentially be worthless

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^^

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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yeah

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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clock widget probably just uses swift ui to update automatically

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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yeah most likely

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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you could have one show your now playing i guess

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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but i assume it does synchronize

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every now and then

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:40 AM

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fwiw i do like how quickly spotify opens from the widget

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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Probably

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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restive ether you could have one show your now playing i guess

no point

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cuz CC

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and LS

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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yeah i mean, true, but if you really want it

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plausible

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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yeah

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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spotify does that rn

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i use it

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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apple music doesn't

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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they have a widget?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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which makes me mad

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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ye

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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i didn’t know that

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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they have several

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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the AM widgets are fucking stupid lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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yeah

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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i can’t believe they made such useless widgets

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:41 AM

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i was hoping for a now playing one

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the only useful widgets to me are calendar and mail

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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📎 image0.png

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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cowboy cat

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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although for some reason it shows now playing playlist

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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apollo on ur dock

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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are the apollo widgets working now

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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do u really check reddit that often?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:42 AM

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still check r/jb cat_cry

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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saw they had issues on the subreddit

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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yikes

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my dock is messages, discord, snapchat, and facetime

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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oh if you check r/jb i’m sure you saw geometrics official release...lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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and r/jbdevs whenever i can

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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restive ether oh if you check r/jb i’m sure you saw geometrics official release...lol

ah yeah we had a very great conversation about that in private twitter

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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their first tweak is amazing

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absolutely revolutionary

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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https://twitter.com/arm64e/status/1335678511470829570?s=20 @restive ether

kritanta (@arm64e)

re: Geometric Repo

When you’re assuming the role of handling payment info, and of distributing root-permission packages to users’ devices,

the legal status of your company should be clear, and there should be an easily identifiable person or team behind the project.

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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please tell me ur joking about geometric

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:43 AM

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thread

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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no bro

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it’s game changing

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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Man I can't wait until checkra1n A11 comes out

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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geometric and twickd are now just safe havens for people banned on packix

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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📎 image0.png

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you can’t make this shit up

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paid tweak

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for #000000 on some views

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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geometric and twickd are now just safe havens for people banned on packix

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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pearl sail Man I can't wait until checkra1n A11 comes out

huh

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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this is facts

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:44 AM

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literally

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geometric featured Kal_themes

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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twickd is at least somewhat reputable

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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uh

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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@half walrus also there’s no way they’re legal if they’re accepting devs in minutes

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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not necessarily

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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hugo seems genuine

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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hugo is a dick

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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I mean with SEP enabled krit

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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hugo has genuine intents but they got skewed at some point

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i think that's why hes invested in twickd v2

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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pearl sail I mean with SEP enabled krit

might as well say 'cant wait till checkra1n for A12 drops'

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:45 AM

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accurate

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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need an SEP exploit

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Or until checkra1n become OSS

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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might as well say ‘when they use a good bootstrap’ while you’re at it

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i would never jailbreak my a12 device

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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@half walrus exploit is public though

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i don't understand how people can jailbreak their main device and still trust it

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i’m not sure what the hold up is

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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and i'm absolutely and completely dumbfounded we got an SEP exploit for <=A10

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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restive ether might as well say ‘when they use a good bootstrap’ while you’re at it

cydia licensing issues

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Blackra1n work on A11

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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just don’t use cydia lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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yeah blackbird doesn't work on a11

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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well unfortunately checkra1n wants and has to offer it

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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i don’t understand why this seems to be some life or death situation

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:46 AM

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not to mention sam and luca pretty much control the entire repo

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so

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restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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should’ve never been an issue if licensing to begin with

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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restive ether i don’t understand why this seems to be some life or death situation

br0 ar3 u not using the cydia version 69 on ur a19 iso 21 device?!??!!!

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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restive ether i don’t understand why this seems to be some life or death situation

bc some people care way too much and the rest don't care at all

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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i thought he was the main open source free use advocate?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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then he got greedy

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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half walrus yeah blackbird doesn't work on a11

No there is mitigation that prevent them from it working but it is exploitable with blackra1n nonetheless

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:47 AM

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what happened to that guy again(

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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substrate closed source should've indicated this much

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but then again so is libhooker

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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all i’ve every heard about that licensing issue is he was trying to protect the brand but it seems like he’s only locked it into this garbage monolith repo

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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Yeah but at least libhooker has more potential of being opened sourced

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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pearl sail No there is mitigation that prevent them from it working but it is exploitable w...

what

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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i doubt lh will be open sourced

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that's a very "not coolstar" thing to do

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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not anytime soon

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i’m still waiting for sileo nfr

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:48 AM

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where is chimera open source

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we are on ios 14

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where is sileo

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yeah

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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coolstar already said that’s not happening

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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i still need an explanation on that sentence rolex

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blackra1n?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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tbf sileo is there it’s just not updated

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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the ios 3 jailbreak?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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same with odyssey

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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i wouldn't approach coolstar or pwn with a 6 foot stick

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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i bother coolstar all the time

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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cba to do that

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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gaunt mesa i wouldn't approach coolstar or pwn with a 6 foot stick

why tho

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:49 AM

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it doesn’t get me far lol

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but i do regardless

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because i’d rather have some form of an answer then not

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:50 AM

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half walrus i still need an explanation on that sentence rolex

wdym read qwerty tweets bruh he said he would work on A11 and up just need to get passed some mitigation

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:50 AM

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half walrus why tho

idk tbh and that's probably an overstatement.

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:50 AM

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coolstar is fine tbh

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:50 AM

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i chat with bingner and play among us w/ coolstar

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:50 AM

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in terms of their jailbreaks u0 has definetely gotten me better stability than odyssey

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ill say that much

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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all i know is saurik is basically protecting that sweet elu ad revenue

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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ad revenue

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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pwn is the only toxic mfer in the room nowadays and everyone recognized that fact

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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can have massive disagreements with people in this community but they're still all not that bad

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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me when i see college ads on elu repo!

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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lol

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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ad revenue on OSS tools sofuckingfunny

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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people bitching about ads on elu/in u0

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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it’s wrong

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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thank god sileo doesn't make CS any money

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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i barely even see those ads tho

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:51 AM

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by for example, having large advertisements for his paid packages on the main screen every time you open the package manager

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 AM

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use cydia more and you will see ads

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 AM

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who are we talking about again

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 AM

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somehow lyricify got on sileo homepage

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idk how i managed to do that

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 AM

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because they don’t get many submissions lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 AM

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ppl are talking about elu ads like sileo doesn't make CS money from the featured page

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 AM

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lol

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:52 AM

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i told them they’re better off switching over to popularity based

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because current system isn’t sustainable

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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the magical thing is i've never met anyone outside of this channel who cares about either of those things

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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i don’t see where coolstar is making money

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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most people don't care about these things

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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half walrus ppl are talking about elu ads like sileo doesn't make CS money from the featured...

featured page aren't paid ads

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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as long as they can get their status bar with 9 million icons

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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all the features are free and user submitted

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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yeah

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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there’s no transfer of money

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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his paid products are there

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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^^

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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to clarify i don't have a problem with it

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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that's free advertising

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:53 AM

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no they aren’t

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nor have they been since like?

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sileo 1.5?

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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CS currently has no tweak on featured page

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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which was a super long time ago

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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i vividly remember his ipad windows homescreen tweak there

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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once they udpate their products i can guarantee it'll be on the featured page tho

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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that was when like sileo came out

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and anemone, ventana and CF2 were ok there

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but that was for like a month lol

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before people started actually submitting

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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once they udpate their products i can guarantee it'll be on the featured page tho

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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but who cares if pwn/cs/bingner make revenue for their free-to-use services

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i really don't get it

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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^^

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:54 AM

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also

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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let people make their money

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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why are they obligated to provide a free service

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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that stuff is free and coolstar’s own making

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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23Aaron and Adam handle featured page tweaks so it is up to them now

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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the tools based on elu are not

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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a lot of places advertise

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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why is a free website that transfers a shit ton of data to millions of devices expected to operate with exactly no revenue

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:55 AM

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you shouldn’t be making money off something you have no involvement in

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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everytime i install npm dependencies i get asked to donate to people

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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restive ether you shouldn’t be making money off something you have no involvement in

i doubt ad revenue there does much more than cover server costs

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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and adverts in u0 are only the beginning of extending this homogenized garbage into the actual tools themselves

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still shouldn’t be there lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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bro

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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doesn’t matter what you’re covering

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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u seem biased af

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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it’s not? one was made by the same person the other isn’t?

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those aren’t even comparable things lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:56 AM

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restive ether doesn’t matter what you’re covering

why should he need to host it for free w/ no way to pay for it

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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what "tools" are u talking about

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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how is that supposed to be sustainable

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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i’m talking about elu

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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no i meant specific tools

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that coolstar made

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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anemone, CF2, ventana

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those aren’t comparable to elu

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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yet ur comparing them somehow?

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im so confused

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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i’m not?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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restive ether you shouldn’t be making money off something you have no involvement in

and how does this not apply to chariz/dynastic/packix

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why are they allowed to take a cut then

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:57 AM

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krit is the one that mentioned their use in the featured tab of sileo

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and how that’s similar to ads in elu

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:58 AM

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Which is not

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:58 AM

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eh

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:58 AM

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cause no one makes money in that

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while elu does

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:58 AM

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not directly

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but indirectly they do

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think about this

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:58 AM

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does sileo not feature paid packages anymore

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:58 AM

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it’s going towards devs for their own products though

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the devs of those OSS projects on elu aren’t seeing that from those ads

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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restive ether the devs of those OSS projects on elu aren’t seeing that from those ads

the devs of those OSS projects do not care as they are raking in money from the ubuntu backports repo sofuckingfunny

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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bc the ads cover hosting

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you dont want ads, download it with apt and run your own repo

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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this

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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half walrus does sileo not feature paid packages anymore

It does but no one in Sileo's team are making money

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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you simply should not be running adverts on things you did not make

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that’s just the bottom line

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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ok but think about this

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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they made the website, no?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 5:59 AM

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bingner made the repo

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:00 AM

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restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:00 AM

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no one asked them “hey can i throw your shit on a repo and make money off it?” lol

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:00 AM

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procursus has more packages then elu and host it and doesn't make money off ads

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:00 AM

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u don't need explicit permission for that

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its not violating any kind of licenses

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:00 AM

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also u0 makes so much money off donations that’s not even an excuse anymore

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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u0 doesn't host elu

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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they’ve covered server cost 60 times over in a month

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bingner still has access to the money

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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bingner does

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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are u saying that pwn can't just make his money and keep it?

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buy a lambo or sm

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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it’s for the whole team to use for anything u0 related

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that’s u0 related

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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checkra1n is not u0 related

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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elu is u0 related lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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procursus is odyssey related then

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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and there's no way the ads on it come close to covering server costs

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:01 AM

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ok? but no one making money?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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much less making anyone any extra cash

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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i don't understand why there is so much scrutiny

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just let the man make his money and leave him alone

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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because it’s morally wrong

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Hayden don't even ask for hosting money

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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and its not like ur on that website all day

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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no it's not

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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and against the ad providers tos lol

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but that’s whatever

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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which ToS

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please explain

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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so is like every website so

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idk ask hayden

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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then gmail shouldn't run ads bc they didn't write all the emails in your inbox

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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he said it was last time

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:02 AM

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making money off of other people's content smh

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youtube shouldn't run ads, they aren't making the videos

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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i do not see how those are comparable lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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if i had the chance to make money im not gonna think about morals

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and the end user literally does not give 2 fucks

celest glen Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Waiting for Pwn to find an exploit and sell it so he can finally Stfu

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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bc in all of those situations ads cover server costs?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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so you’re admitting it’s immoral then

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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partly

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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how hard is that to get?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:03 AM

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@tepid olive what part of that ad provider tos did sam break again, i forget

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 AM

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but if we are going on morals here then a lot of the world doesn't give a fuck about those

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 AM

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it's not like he's off buying lambos with elu ad revenue lmfao

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 AM

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so u can't just be excluding sam for it

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 AM

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gaunt mesa but if we are going on morals here then a lot of the world doesn't give a fuck a...

that's kind of a dumb argument here tho

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 AM

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half walrus it's not like he's off buying lambos with elu ad revenue lmfao

br0 did u not see pwn new lambo?!!!? he buy it using ad revenue

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:04 AM

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i don’t understand why we’re explaining the scope here lol

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pwn could literally buy an audi off u0 donations

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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So cause a lot of immoral shit happens in the world we should just accept it?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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half walrus that's kind of a dumb argument here tho

true, i was just trying to raise a point but i realize it doesn't matter

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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so i could see that

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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i regret saying that

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Better not here you guys complaining about Apple then

celest glen Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Extent of your imagination is incredible

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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Simple as that

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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i just don't get:
• Why bingner is obligated to run a server for free
• How an advertisement is morally wrong
• Why anyone cares whatsoever

celest glen Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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All I want in life is lamb o to buy

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:05 AM

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the third point is important

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:06 AM

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i just don’t understand why you think running ads on other people’s software is ok

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:06 AM

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the only people that seem to care are the ones that dislike pwn and bingner

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:06 AM

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it doesn’t make sense to me

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:06 AM

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wallpaper websites do that

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so do a lot of other things

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:06 AM

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and they shouldn’t lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:06 AM

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you and i have a completely different view on where the ads are being ran, then

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he's running ads on his website, to cover server costs

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not within anyone else's software

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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unless they got permission or compensated those artists there’s 0 reason they should be providing those

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and running ads off them

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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not injecting like the ++ packages, which is morally wrong like you describe

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nor modifying them in any way

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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anyone waking up at 9 to cop the 6900xt

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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anyone that runs one of those ++ packages is a legitimate moron who wants adware

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Technically those artists are getting exposure on someone else's platform

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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the depictions, hosted on his own webserver, run ads

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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depiction != package

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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@twilit jungle rarely credited

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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Well thats a different issue

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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half walrus i just don't get: • Why bingner is obligated to run a server for free • How an a...

So basically bingner is allowed to repackage other people's work and make a profit off it even though he probably made more money off U0's donation and everything else he has been involved in.

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:07 AM

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what profit lmfaooo

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:08 AM

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tf have you seen how much u0 was making off paypal and patreon?

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not to mention that exploit to EAP

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:08 AM

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i said ad revenue

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not paypal and patreon

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although i'm very glad people donate

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:08 AM

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why are we bringing up u0 now

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:08 AM

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and i hope cs' patreon picks up

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:08 AM

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the extent of this ad discussion was on elu

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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half walrus and i hope cs' patreon picks up

they have a patreon?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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yes

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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idk rolex said it then i thought krit was mentioning the paypal part

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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might go pledge

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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My questions is how many people are actually spending time on elu?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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twilit jungle My questions is how many people are actually spending time on elu?

THIS

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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^

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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as ive said

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the end user doesn't give 2 fucks

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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why should time matter either

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they’re there regardless

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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anything on elu i use apt-get for anyways lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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yeah ill just end up using apt

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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It shouldn't matter but at this point your time arguing could be used elsewhere

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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literally did not know they ran ads till people started using it to attack them

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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it doesn’t matter if you’re there for 20 seconds or 20 years

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:09 AM

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My question is who cares, argue about politics or something frcoal

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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A youtube creator makes the same amount of money if people skip the ad

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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and if i do download via package manager the depiction doesn't even load fast enough by the time ive already started downloading the package

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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@primal perch we need distraction from our half-finished tweaks

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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lol

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half finished?

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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bold of you to assume you've hit the halfway marker

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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more like half broken

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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h+ needs a whole ass rewrite

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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pain

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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gonna get a half-assed one instead

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:10 AM

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yeah hswidgets too

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that shit still has bootlooping problems

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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Need to remove the PhotosWidget

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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if daniel doesn't message back this week i'm updating HSWidgets for ios 14

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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ghostuhh

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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wtf

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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if he does i'm updating velox

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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is daniel just dead now

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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yeah p much

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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hasn’t he been MIA for like

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months

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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MIA @lethal ice TRUE

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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still getting paid for it though

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:11 AM

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he took his money and dipped

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/s

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jk

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uhh

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rip

lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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@primal perch true

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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L

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Big L

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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yeah same with that bird poop dev and everyone else on twickd

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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MNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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make money and just dip

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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twickd and geometrics now @primal perch

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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frcoal

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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bro its already established that twickd is a haven of banned packix devs

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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Does geometrics do any kind of tax auditing?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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that’s basically been true for every packix “replacement” so far

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:12 AM

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twilit jungle Does geometrics do any kind of tax auditing?

likely

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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@ D we know literally nothing

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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chariz is epic repo tho

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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i haven’t looked at it yet

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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@twilit jungle eez nuts

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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but i wouldn’t doubt t it

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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no info on the owner

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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Treez nuts

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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true

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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frcoal

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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no info on the 'business' assuming one exists

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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I don't understand why you guys care they making they are trying to cover the twickd hosting cost

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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if they’re willing to defend kal themes i don’t think they have much in the field of ethics

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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shep go to bed

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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website has a swedish tld

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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cant see

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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pearl sail I don't understand why you guys care they making they are trying to cover the tw...

we don't, just pointing out facts

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:13 AM

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they told me kal has never stolen other’s work nfr

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:14 AM

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bro

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:14 AM

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pearl sail I don't understand why you guys care they making they are trying to cover the tw...

Because they are pretty much getting developers into tax fraud

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:14 AM

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oh yeah

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that too

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:14 AM

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that man has literally used alts and posted near 1:1 clones

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:14 AM

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is twickd still illegal?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:14 AM

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probably

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still actively avoiding providing business ID’s

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so

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:14 AM

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thing with twickd/others and tax problems is that developers being legally implicated in that is

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highly unlikely to hold up in court

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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I mean yeah but they gotta cover twickd hosting and if morals don't matter it shouldn't matter to y'all

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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isn’t any repo that doesn’t directly pay sales tax doing that lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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this is why i like repos that handle all the pain for u

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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because i know those devs aren’t paying the taxes

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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ie. chariz and packix

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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lmao no one is arguing whether twickd should have ads or if they should charge developers or not.

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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so that extends to dynastic to some extent

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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chariz holds ur money until the chargeback period is over and then sends it to u and automatically deducts

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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restive ether so that extends to dynastic to some extent

not yet, maybe soon

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dynastic ur on ur own

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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why soon?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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i would hope soon

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:15 AM

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i don’t see what would change that

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oh are they going to handle it soon

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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nah but not paying taxes is going too far

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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dynastic currently makes u handle ur taxes, paypal fees, and then on top of that platform fees

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Yeah...

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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chariz bundles all of that together

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so

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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man

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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seems like a bad idea for probably the second biggest profit repo

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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how i see it with twickd is

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their legal issues are their own problem

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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restive ether seems like a bad idea for probably the second biggest profit repo

how

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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Morally bad if you don't pay taxes man

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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illegal

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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If I ever make a paid tweak I’d wanna use chariz

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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@gaunt mesa i mean not doing this to begin with

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:16 AM

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^^

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YESS

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@lethal kayak doit

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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half walrus their legal issues are their own problem

and i don't see why everyone else is incredibly concerned about it

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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balls

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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restive ether <@!700707501493977198> i mean not doing this to begin with

i think dynastic wasn't fully registered / prepared to when they first opened

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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🤨🤨🤨

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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chariz has all of the legal shit taken care of and so does packix

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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are you saying they aren’t now?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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i'm not sure

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i don't work for dynastic

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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that sounds

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pretty illegal

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lol

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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half walrus and i don't see why everyone else is incredibly concerned about it

gotta keep that same consistency for everything

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:17 AM

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sorry

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they are registered as a company and everything

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:18 AM

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oh

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:18 AM

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but there is probably something stopping them from doing the system that chariz and packix do

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not to mention they do their taxes and everything properly (i assume)

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:18 AM

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that’s still gotta be tax fraud regardless if you’re making money?

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:18 AM

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well not really

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:18 AM

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Hey Apple is a registered company and everything and they legitmately pay almost nothing in taxes each year

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:18 AM

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how is it tax fraud if you pay your taxes

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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man i already pay sales tax fuck off US

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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@restive ether marketplaces can do two systems

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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but man honest to god

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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i don’t see what would be stopping them if they’re a legal company

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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and like 30% income

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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why does everyone care

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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legal wise anyhow

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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frcoal

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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that’s what i assumed you meant in that situation

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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kind of act like a proxy and give ur money directly to u
withhold ur money and then pay you what ur owed

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maybe they just choose to be like the first

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like i said i don't work at dynastic ¯_(ツ)_/¯

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:19 AM

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Yourepo and dynastic operate on the first system, although I'm not sure if dynastic has switched over yet

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i think dynastic had plans to switch over

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:20 AM

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The Payout model is used by repos to ensure they can refund users

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:20 AM

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and the 30 day period is to prevent chargebacks from killing u

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:20 AM

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i’m happy packix cleaned itself up

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since that’s the repo most devs are on

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:20 AM

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'cleaned'

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:20 AM

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yeah ‘cleaned’ lol

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still got andy

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:20 AM

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chariz is currently request to join

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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restive ether still got andy

didn't know they were 13

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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speculation for legal reasons

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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i personally don't like packix cuz its big

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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gaunt mesa chariz is currently request to join

either the bar is high or no ones requesting

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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i prefer being able to directly bother adam about something chariz related

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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there's shit going on and has been since packix transitioned to their new system after everyone else left

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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which either way fair enough

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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oh people are requesting im pretty sure

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just not getting responses nfr

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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a 15% increase charged to the developer 'to cover taxes'

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:21 AM

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also not to mention adam is really busy rn

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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coalfr

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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while they also charge users the tax

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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half walrus a 15% increase charged to the developer 'to cover taxes'

lol i forgot about this thanks for reminding me

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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wait packix did a 15% increase?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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last year

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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so whats their cut now?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

#

andy about to buy a new boat with that

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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it was long ago

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before checkra1n

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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andy can buy a boat with varnish money

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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packix revenue is absurd lol

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:22 AM

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restive ether andy about to buy a new boat with that

gotta cover that packix hosting cost tho

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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lol

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L

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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and with them double-charging taxes and i'm assuming pocketing half

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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packix probably has a really expensive hosting cost

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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does packix even have ads? i forgot

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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probably a lot more

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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yes it does

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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it does?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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is that just on free stuff?

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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double whammy

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:23 AM

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packix uses an ad system so now tell me how its different from elu

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it even has ads on its native depictions

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half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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packix has a revenue stream on its website whereas elu doesn't tho

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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forcible submission and usage vs. optional

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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Ads and increased tax?

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No tax

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Ads

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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don’t need packix, you need elu

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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@restive ether nobody forcing you to install literally anything from the bootstrap manually

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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@half walrus but technically packix is still using "ads on packages andy didn't make"

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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why does a static repo even need an income though

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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need stuff sometimes

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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you, maybe

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:24 AM

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same as elu uses "ads on packages bingner didn't maek"

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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there’s a lot of tools on other repos that use bootstrap packages

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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haven't once in my life manually installed preferenceloader

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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or mobilesubstrate

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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PL isn’t on elu

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it’s on odyssey though

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

#

where tf is it actually

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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BB

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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bigboss

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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it's one of those bullshit hidden packages

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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depends

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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yeah

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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yeah

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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iirc

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so fucking annoying

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:25 AM

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yep

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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if you’re talking about in sileo, yeah but you can just turn all that stuff on

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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trying to convince CS to get rid of that filter from Sileo

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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like "oh no you literally cannot view that this package exists anywhere in cydia sorry"

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i don’t even think cydia does that anymore

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it does?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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no it's a cydia thing too

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i only use sileo on my ipad

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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i thought they killed that like 4 years ago

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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name a package i'll double check

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:26 AM

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u can switch to developer mode on cydia

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:27 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/784511540120256562.png?v=1

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:27 AM

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tho its hidden in those webview menus on the main page

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:27 AM

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frW

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:27 AM

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ldid should be hidden

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libplist3

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:27 AM

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They killed the beginner/advance/developer prompt that comes up when you first open Cydia

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:27 AM

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pearl sail They killed the beginner/advance/developer prompt that comes up when you first ...

A long time ago

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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was gonna say that lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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back when jailberaking was relevant

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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kek

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

#

anymore every jailbreak is a dev jailbreak

#

not as bad as

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

#

idk i think 14 really killed it good

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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was it ios 13 or 12

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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ios 14 is perfect for me

#

i have no reason to jailbreak

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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When we had like 600K plus people actively in the community

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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with the shit exploits and shit jailbreaks

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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not fully obviously, but it’s getting there

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:28 AM

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half walrus with the shit exploits and shit jailbreaks

11

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that had LiberiOS

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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wtf why isn't varnish working

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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10 was kinda like that too

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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iOS 11 was the bain

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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i came back to the community in ios 12

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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there was like 8 different jailbreaks

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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ios 10 was nice tho

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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ios 10/11 were the dark ages

tepid olive Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

#

chart

Chart for a list of jailbreak tools and their supported iOS versions/devices

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

#

everything went to shit when iOS 11 came

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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11 was ok imo

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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electra was buggy

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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when jailbreak was looking bleak af

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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Except for shit jailbreakd v1

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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jailbreakd 1 was trash

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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throwback to

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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dogescared

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jailbreakd 1

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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jbd 3 is pretty fucked up too lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:29 AM

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hitting 300 attempts on whatever

#

cant remember which jb

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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rip jbd2, plz give it back

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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Lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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probably EL

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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sparkes jb worked pretty well

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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half walrus cant remember which jb

Empty_list on Electra 1131

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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fruhh

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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houdini nfr

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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shipped asap and it was the first jb put out by cs, right?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:30 AM

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yeah

lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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taletaletaletaletaletaletaletale

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thats fun to say

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Saurik said but my imaginary jailbreak would've been clean asf

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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Lmao

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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and now cs has gotten the work down, tihm/others handle exploits, and u0 just adds the POC to the source folder and hits compile

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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I still don’t understand why he’s miffed about people replacing his software

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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lethal ice taletaletaletaletaletaletaletale

my last name is fun to say?

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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He doesn’t maintain it anymore

lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:31 AM

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taletaletaletaletaletaletaletaletaletaletale

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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u0 source is disgusting

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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shut up scorpion man

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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taletaletaletaletaletaletaletaletaletaletale

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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treadm1ll

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wasnt that one

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or threadm1ll

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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leviathan

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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true

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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soon

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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pokimane 69

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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frbook

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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can you drop leviathan 4 with jbd 4

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/ccl-x-yaco-ccl-gif-19315997

Tenor

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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will leviathan use v6ntex

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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restive ether u0 source is disgusting

leaked source was a mess that is all i'm gonna say

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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or potentially v7ntex

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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understated @pearl sail

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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lmao I remember v3ntex

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I forgot about that damn

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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why are we attacking u0 source now?

lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:32 AM

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@primal perch

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true

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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true

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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u0

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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journey

lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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escape intjcum

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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gaunt mesa why are we attacking u0 source now?

krit mentioned dropping the exploits into source and it reminded me how ugly it was

lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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best album

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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Does u0 still abuse macros

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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attacking organization of leaked source code is kinda silly lol

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especially when it's an xcodeproj

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which dumps a lot of shit in a single folder

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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rip Leviathan

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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bro xcode makes everything messy

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:33 AM

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literalwho

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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what game should I play

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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true

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@narrow mason

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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pearl sail rip Leviathan

No it’s ok, he’s just out to get milk and a pack of cigs

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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isn’t this how you finished leviathan

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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leviathan best social experiment

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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Remember the exposing pwn channel

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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okay i am going to play cod now

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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lepidus

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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bye

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:34 AM

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cod is shit

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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shut up

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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what game do I play

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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just cuz u suck at cod doesn' tmean its shit

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sofuckingfunny

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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r/FindPwn

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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cold war is legitimately one of the worst game i’ve played in 2020

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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cold war is trash

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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r/whereispwn

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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modern warfare is still epic tho

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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still convinced it doesn't exist

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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@tidal jacinth20wnd

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true

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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MW is the worst game i’ve played in 2019

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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its the real pwn20ownd

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tf

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mw 2019 is pretty good

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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isn't he banned from r/jb

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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but also unsure

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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probably

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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yeah he’s very banned lol

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:35 AM

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gaunt mesa isn't he banned from r/jb

who isn't

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lol

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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no from the discord

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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yeah but pwn actually deserved it

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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primal perch mw 2019 is pretty good

understatement, IW8 made mw absolute sex

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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yeah not the subreddit, here

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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I forgot what he did again

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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being toxic in the cat picture channel

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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toxic

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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he told one dude to kill himself

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he uh

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harassed some dude asking why u0 wasn’t working

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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where is u0 discord server

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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actually i think that was the same person

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there is one

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:36 AM

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gotta ask what pwn hasn't done tbh

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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an official one?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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for da team

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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probably more dead than my server

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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not community

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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oh a team one

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wait u0 has a team

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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sileo discord is an all in one

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right?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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“team”

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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thought it was just bingner

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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no

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samg

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ben weaver

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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their team server is called a group DM

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restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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probably siguza

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Ben weaver

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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samg

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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weaver

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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jake james

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pwn is ben weaver

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remember that

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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pwn's alt

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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Who’s the one who leaked though frcoal

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:37 AM

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oh yeah siguza did the lightspeed vuln exploit didn't he

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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yes

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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yeah

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there’s probably more random people who’s name i have no clue about

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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gaunt mesa just cuz u suck at cod doesn' tmean its shit

1v1 in bo2 to prove Im trash

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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oh cryptic was there i think

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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either talked with null or heard someone talk about him working on it

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yeah

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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faint timber 1v1 in bo2 to prove Im trash

im not installin g bo2

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:38 AM

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what cod then

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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basically just everyone waiting on null and him having no desire to work on it

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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modern warfare

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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post this kangaroo for jamie to bypass codesign

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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half walrus basically just everyone waiting on null and him having no desire to work on it

Everyone always waiting on null

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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still waiting on my invite to the git cat_cry

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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pearl sail Everyone always waiting on null

true

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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what was actually done

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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the app was nice

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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Still waiting on my apple vpn credentials

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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easily the nicest jb app ever made

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:39 AM

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The app for leviathan was hella nice

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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is*

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dont you have the latest beta

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for b14.3

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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i like finishing abandoned projects

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do not like starting new ones

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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i think i have the app ipa somewhere on my PC

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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Old colors

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I still miss that mem ed color

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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why i picked up rootless a while back

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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same

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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blue dev color was better btw

lethal ice Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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nfr

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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did they ever fix rootless to not take 1000 years to work on ios 12.4.x

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:40 AM

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then promptly dropped rootless when bplank destroyed the reputation

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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Still waiting on my ftp credentials for tatsu

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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lol

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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sofuckingfunny

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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restive ether did they ever fix rootless to not take 1000 years to work on ios 12.4.x

needs a rewrite

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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It was clean asf when I had it and told not to press jailbreak t

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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half walrus then promptly dropped rootless when bplank destroyed the reputation

he does it once a week at this point

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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jakeasjames is good but the code is

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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he was spewing election conspiracies like last week

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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actual worst code i've ever seen in a public project

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20 line long macros

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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rootless 4?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:41 AM

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procursus on leviathan

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@gaunt mesa have you seen my bo2 clips

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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no

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now i am playing a game of search on hovec sawmill

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leave me in peace

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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ok gn @Developers

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@primal perch get on cod rn

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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why everyone so obsessed with procursus lowkey

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-2D3R01Wqw

YouTube

Cryptic

BO2 Trickshot Clips

Been unlisted since 2017.
Haters say its fake lol.

▶ Play video

primal perch Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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nah bro its bedtime

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😴

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sleep

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le sleep

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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half walrus why everyone so obsessed with procursus lowkey

it’s a meme

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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hovec sawmill pog map

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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@gaunt mesa watch this meme

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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still tho

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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this is pc

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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procursus is good and all

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:42 AM

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lol

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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but either way the randos who jailbreak don't give a shit

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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nobody cared about ads on elu till ppl realized they could bitch about them to get elu replaced with procursus

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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check team doesn’t care

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they have 0 interest in a replacement

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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i love the project, love the idea, love hayden, it's just kinda weird

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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seems pretty evident

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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restive ether they have 0 interest in a replacement

why would they

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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why wouldn’t they?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:43 AM

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why fix what works

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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it’s an easily contributed maintained strap?

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why would you use apt 1.4 with some random SHA-1 hashes when you can have literally the solar opposite of that?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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elu gets maintained and the maintainer is on the checkra1n team

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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why fix something that works

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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no it doesn’t lol

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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half walrus why fix what works

I hate this mentality

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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this attitude is literally why we’re in the space we are

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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what space

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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the space of using garbage no one properly maintains

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:44 AM

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we got a bootrom exploit and an SEPROM exploit a year later

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:45 AM

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the space where we have outdated practices being used for no reason

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:45 AM

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True

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:45 AM

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there are 3 very powerful hooking tools out there

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a working alternative to theos

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:45 AM

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we’re all complicit in not advertising these changes

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:45 AM

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2 functional semi-untethered jailbreaks competing

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1 bootrom jailbreak, another that supports 2 devices

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:45 AM

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all these scenarios are comparing 1% user base to 99%

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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dont understand why elu bootstrap uses outdated stuff though

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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bc it works

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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@lethal kayak u ever play bo2 pc

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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no i havent

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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lethal kayak dont understand why elu bootstrap uses outdated stuff though

I don't understand why it has broken stuff on it

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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bingner literally allows repos to use SHA-1? do you think that’s ok?

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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damn 😦

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lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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F

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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ya

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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play mw with me cryptic

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damn triangle not shitposting again

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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sometimes i forget he knows things

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:46 AM

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I will have to see if I still have it on another drive

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:47 AM

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i don’t understand why you think that’s ok to have in 2020

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 6:47 AM

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I deleted it

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:47 AM

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it wasn’t even ok in 2016

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wait

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it was 2011

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LMAO

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:47 AM

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Kek

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:47 AM

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@vivid dew r u stealing my rootlessjb bootstrap vision

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:48 AM

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long leviathan

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 6:48 AM

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wide leviathan

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strong leviathan

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weak leviathan

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then do it

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without the snake

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:49 AM

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end goal was to integrate the Noveau concepts i put out a while back with the rootless structure

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to have a fully functional poc for them

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i see no reason to not have tweaks in ~/var/mobile/Tweaks

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or something like that

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:50 AM

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half walrus i see no reason to not have tweaks in ~/var/mobile/Tweaks

other than permissions issues, but people going on about security in this community is kinda funny

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:51 AM

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im sure almost every tweak has some security hole in it

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:51 AM

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not tweaks

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tweaks are installed as root and can inject into any process, and tweaks/tools can hop into kernel if needed

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:52 AM

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oof

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:52 AM

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shouldn’t though (if possible)

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:52 AM

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is leviathan actually gonna be a thing?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:52 AM

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if obfuscating malicious code is too hard for a bad dev, that's ok; just add a 'postinst' script in your DEBIAN folder and we'll run it as root for u, no worries

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:53 AM

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epic

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gamer leviathan

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:53 AM

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foss it quietly

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:53 AM

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man i wish it were a thing

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it sounds really nice

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from what ive heard so far

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:53 AM

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rather stare at leviathan's non-functional code than jakeasjames

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:54 AM

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:|

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:54 AM

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you could find like

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half a person who cares

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maybe 1

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:54 AM

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kritantadev on gh

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:54 AM

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if you post enough kangaroo jamie might finally do his end

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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wee

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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restive ether if you post enough kangaroo jamie might finally do his end

thought that would be kirb

twilit jungle Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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is nobody else capable of a codesign bypass

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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just steal chimera stuff, ez

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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L

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:55 AM

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why not use odysseys at this point

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 AM

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there’s nothing to take from

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a lot of that is closed

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 AM

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is it not all foss

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 AM

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no

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 AM

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libhooker contains all that stuff

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 AM

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that's an L

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 AM

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i know for sure jbd is not OSS

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:56 AM

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i was hopeful

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bc i don't wanna write shit for watchos

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 AM

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i wouldn’t be surprised if coolstar gave you it to port to watchOS

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 AM

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reverse thruster

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 AM

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but every 'foss jailbreak' either goes closed source or doesn't foss the shit i don't wanna write

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 AM

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unless it’s reserved for brenbreak™️

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 AM

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restive ether i wouldn’t be surprised if coolstar gave you it to port to watchOS

already asked

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 AM

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L

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:57 AM

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correct

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and he hasn't gotten it either

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brenbreak the leviathan of watchOS

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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wen eta

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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already gotten farther than him

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unfortunately

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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pretty sure this is the only important OSS thing https://github.com/TheOdysseyJB/Odyssey/tree/master/amfidebilitate

GitHub

TheOdysseyJB/Odyssey

Odyssey Swift-based semi-untethered jailbreak. Contribute to TheOdysseyJB/Odyssey development by creating an account on GitHub.

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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Oh that means bren is still working on it

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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i haven't seen him in a while

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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probably

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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i don't know if he still is

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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it has an electra.swift

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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he's been stuck waiting on someone to handle the more complex stuff

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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He retweets twitter shit

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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so does daniel

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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oh never mind that’s something else

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 6:58 AM

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but that is all I have seen

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:00 AM

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@vivid dew since it’s jbd 3 at least part of it’s not the electra one

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i don’t know what electra’s is so i can’t really compare

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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@gaunt mesa can't until tomorrow

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half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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looking forward to geosnow's jb though

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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rip

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@faint timber okay tomorrow it is

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do u own the game or only warzone?

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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half walrus looking forward to geosnow's jb though

if it’s truly OSS i will greatly appreciate that

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i’m glad he also switched over to pro

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to make that more reasonable

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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Geo got me blocked

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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L

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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on twitter

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:01 AM

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probably deserved

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 AM

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i’m still not his biggest fan due to content

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 AM

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i misjudged him so poorly

faint timber Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 AM

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@gaunt mesa the game I've haven't played battle royale since hunger games mc

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 AM

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he's genuine and passionate about the work, and he knows his shit

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 AM

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I just made this meme nothing else

📎 geos0w_meme.jpg

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 AM

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videos are grossly overstated

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especially the titles

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he’s probably a fine person, i’m just not a fan of that

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:02 AM

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had a long chat trying to explain how clickbait hurt his reputation

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i don't think he quite gets it but it was a good chat

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:03 AM

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he’s admitted he does it on purpose

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for the money

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:03 AM

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i mean if you'd like take it up with him

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I said some very harsh shit directed at him and for some reason it ended in a really good discussion

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i care

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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Geo is not a bad dude

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i’m sure he’s a great guy, i’ve had decent convos

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it’s just the videos man

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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we all care ultra

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restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i’d love lev

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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my chat was still scrolled up

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i think a lot of people would be happy with a jb away from the main two

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ok catgirl

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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but people who aren't willing to concede someone else's opinions are going to have a bad time w/ geo ofc

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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i mean if i knew more i would be willing to help with development

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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same

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but i am stupid

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:04 AM

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but i don't think i'd be useful rn

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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His videos are just biased and clickbait, but he said he would improve so I will reserve my judgement

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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previous are

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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dont watch his videos

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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he will make attempts to change that

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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nobody in this channel is the target audience

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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from the sound of it

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@half walrus his target audience is just little kids who are getting mislead or hyped up more or less

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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the problem is that it's so difficult to find good comprehensive sources on ios kernel reversing

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:05 AM

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fine by me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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there's levin's book and that's it

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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get levins book

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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i don’t see why that’s “fine”

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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don't need much more

gaunt mesa Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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levins book

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what's that

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who is that

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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when did misleading content become an ok standard to go by

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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jonathan levin

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liberios guy also did a lot of other stuff

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but you might remember liberios

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:06 AM

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restive ether i don’t see why that’s “fine”

less 'fine' and more "getting into this is an extremely complex conversation about content in general and youtube viewership trends"

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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he also had that jailbreak library

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i forgot what it was called

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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i know it’s a youtube trend overall, but it doesn’t mean we should be ok with it

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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QiLin

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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thing is

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nobody is harmed in any way by it

pearl sail Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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The thing I tried to explain to him on twitter once and it didn't go through him. Is that if you have biased videos and you spread that info to a large follow you influence their action and don't give people a chance

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:07 AM

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no just me when someone sends his videos lol

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and i have to explain that there’s a 99% chance what he says won’t happen

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he likes making videos about singular tweets from devs who don’t release vulnerabilities a lot

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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that does annoy me

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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i think i'm gonna buy levin's book, hopefully I can study it during break

restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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yeah that’s was my big issue

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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but there's more important things to worry about

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@lethal kayak which area do you plan on going into in particular

lethal kayak Dec 8, 2020, 7:08 AM

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restive ether Dec 8, 2020, 7:09 AM

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as far as jailbreak youtubers or the community at large?

half walrus Dec 8, 2020, 7:09 AM

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if you can't afford all 3 I'll dig through mine and see what has what you need