#development | r/Jailbreak | Page 242

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:39 AM

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        gameTitle.layer.shadowRadius = 12
        gameTitle.backgroundColor = .clear
        
        playButton.setTitle("Play", for: UIControl.State())
        playButton.translatesAutoresizingMaskIntoConstraints = false
        playButton.adjustsImageWhenHighlighted = false
        playButton.adjustsImageWhenDisabled = false
        playButton.layer.masksToBounds = true
        playButton.backgroundColor = UIColor.gray.withAlphaComponent(0.4)
        playButton.layer.shadowColor = UIColor.black.cgColor
        playButton.layer.shadowRadius = 12
        playButton.layer.shadowOpacity = 0.4
        
        viewStack.addArrangedSubview(SpacerView.spacer())
        viewStack.addArrangedSubview(gameTitle)
        viewStack.addArrangedSubview(SpacerView.spacer())
        viewStack.addArrangedSubview(playButton)
        viewStack.addArrangedSubview(SpacerView.spacer())
        viewStack.axis = .vertical
        viewStack.alignment = .center
        viewStack.distribution = .fillEqually
        
        
        view.addSubview(viewStack)
        //view.addSubview(playButton)
        
        setupConstraints()
    }
    
    func setupConstraints() {
        NSLayoutConstraint.activate([
            viewStack.leadingAnchor.constraint(equalTo: view.leadingAnchor, constant: 20),
            viewStack.trailingAnchor.constraint(equalTo: view.trailingAnchor, constant: -20),
            viewStack.topAnchor.constraint(equalTo: view.topAnchor, constant: 20),
            viewStack.bottomAnchor.constraint(equalTo: view.bottomAnchor, constant: -20)
            ])
        
        NSLayoutConstraint.activate([
            playButton.widthAnchor.constraint(equalTo: viewStack.widthAnchor, multiplier: 0.25, constant: 0),
            playButton.heightAnchor.constraint(equalTo: playButton.widthAnchor, multiplier: 1, constant: 0)
            ])```

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.activate is uikitcompatkit but it works identically

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import UIKit

// MARK: - Internal Anchor Backport (safe names)
class JAnchor {
    weak var view: UIView?
    let attribute: NSLayoutConstraint.Attribute
    
    init(view: UIView, attribute: NSLayoutConstraint.Attribute) {
        self.view = view
        self.attribute = attribute
    }
    
    func constraint(equalTo other: JAnchor, multiplier: CGFloat = 1.0, constant: CGFloat = 0) -> NSLayoutConstraint {
        return NSLayoutConstraint(
            item: view!,
            attribute: attribute,
            relatedBy: .equal,
            toItem: other.view,
            attribute: other.attribute,
            multiplier: multiplier,
            constant: constant
        )
    }
    
    func constraint(equalToConstant constant: CGFloat) -> NSLayoutConstraint {
        return NSLayoutConstraint(
            item: view!,
            attribute: attribute,
            relatedBy: .equal,
            toItem: nil,
            attribute: .notAnAttribute,
            multiplier: 1,
            constant: constant
        )
    }
}

// MARK: - UIView extension using safe internal anchors
extension UIView {
    var jLeadingAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .leading) }
    var jTrailingAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .trailing) }
    var jTopAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .top) }
    var jBottomAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .bottom) }
    var jWidthAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .width) }
    var jHeightAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .height) }
    var jCenterXAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .centerX) }
    var jCenterYAnchor: JAnchor { return JAnchor(view: self, attribute: .centerY) }
}```

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funni stuff

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cheeky type aliasing

extension UIView {
    var leadingAnchor: JAnchor { return jLeadingAnchor }
    var trailingAnchor: JAnchor { return jTrailingAnchor }
    var topAnchor: JAnchor { return jTopAnchor }
    var bottomAnchor: JAnchor { return jBottomAnchor }
    var widthAnchor: JAnchor { return jWidthAnchor }
    var heightAnchor: JAnchor { return jHeightAnchor }
    var centerXAnchor: JAnchor { return jCenterXAnchor }
    var centerYAnchor: JAnchor { return jCenterYAnchor }
}```

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to avoid the compiler whining at me

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:41 AM

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lol at the SpacerView.spacer()
I can tell you're primarily a SwiftUI dev haha (not that that's a bad thing, just seemed funny)

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:41 AM

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radiant idol lol at the `SpacerView.spacer()` I can tell you're primarily a SwiftUI dev haha ...

omg i hate that uikit doesnt haveit

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its so fucking shit

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why is there no spacer

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i had to have it

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super simple shit tho

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:41 AM

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because it goes against UIKit principles, you should be using your constraints in a correct way where you don't need spacers

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:41 AM

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//
//  SpacerView.swift
//  Colour Snap Legacy
//
//  Created by JWI on 3/09/2025.
//  Copyright © 2025 JWI. All rights reserved.
//

import UIKit

class SpacerView: UIView {
    
    override init(frame: CGRect) {
        super.init(frame: frame)
        self.backgroundColor = UIColor.clear
        
        self.setContentHuggingPriority(UILayoutPriority.defaultLow, for: .horizontal)
        self.setContentHuggingPriority(UILayoutPriority.defaultLow, for: .vertical)
        
        self.setContentCompressionResistancePriority(UILayoutPriority.defaultLow, for: .horizontal)
        self.setContentCompressionResistancePriority(UILayoutPriority.defaultLow, for: .vertical)
    }
    
    override var intrinsicContentSize : CGSize {
       return CGSize(width: 0, height: 0) 
    }
    
    convenience init() {
        self.init(frame: CGRect.zero)
    }
    
    class func spacer() -> SpacerView {
        return SpacerView()
    }
    
    required init?(coder aDecoder: NSCoder) {
        super.init(coder: aDecoder)
    }
}

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:41 AM

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radiant idol because it goes against UIKit principles, you should be using your constraints i...

as in hardcoding ui?

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i mean realistically i feel like uikit was designed with storyboard in mind

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it very much feels like storyboard but code

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by which it inherits a lot of storyboards flaws

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:42 AM

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in SwiftUI they're very useful since they just get baked into the view because of the underlying SwiftUI core
however in UIKit all of those spacers are themselves views, which causes that whole concept to be significantly less performant in UIKit

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:42 AM

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radiant idol because it goes against UIKit principles, you should be using your constraints i...

i mean i could but then you have like half your view controller be constraints

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:43 AM

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radiant idol in SwiftUI they're very useful since they just get baked into the view because o...

true but its not been too bad

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:43 AM

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magic hazel as in hardcoding ui?

There's centerXAnchor, centerYAnchor, etc, so no you don't have to hardcode, just be mindful of your layout

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:43 AM

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magic hazel i mean i could but then you have like half your view controller be constraints

Realistically, that's what ends up happening a lot of the times - as amusing as that may be

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:43 AM

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radiant idol There's `centerXAnchor`, `centerYAnchor`, etc, so no you don't have to hardcode,...

but then its always relative to something on the view rather than adapting to other elements in the view

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:44 AM

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Hm, wdym?

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:44 AM

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i think currently with OAStackView as UIStackView and my .activate patch my ios 6 uikit is not far off normal

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other than scenedelegate

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that i cant do shit about

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:44 AM

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radiant idol Hm, wdym?

in swiftui in a vstack your elements adapt to the components of the vstack, rather than the superview

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:45 AM

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Correct, in UIKit that behavior is different

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:45 AM

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if you constrain elements to parts of the superview they don't react to other elements

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its clearly geared for the days of known screen sizes

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where you can layout everything perfectly

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bcus you only have to deal w like 3 sizes

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swiftui works so much better w the like 9 sizes we have now

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:46 AM

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magic hazel if you constrain elements to parts of the superview they don't react to other el...

not true, you don't need to align stuff manually in UIStackView, and if you animate the heights for example in a vertical stack view you can see that they animate correctly

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:46 AM

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magic hazel swiftui works so much better w the like 9 sizes we have now

I agree

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:46 AM

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hence why im hoping dearly that openswiftui can be ported back

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then again i cant even use it on ios 18 rn

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there is no documentation

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it is so frustrating

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:46 AM

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You could build your own layout API if you really wanted to, but

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:46 AM

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for now, i know i will need minimum of swift 5.10

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id only want it to be like swiftui

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so

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people can use it and not have to learn somethig new

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however

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i looked at openswiftui code

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and holy fucking shit

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the codebase is massive

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and its not even done yet

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💀

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it also relies on objc, c, c++

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:47 AM

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Oh yeah for sure, SwiftUI is very complicated

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:47 AM

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stuff im not very good with

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im much much better w swift

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:47 AM

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magic hazel it also relies on objc, c, c++

That's expected 🤷‍♂️

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:47 AM

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indeed

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ofc

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it uses private apis asw

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im worried a bit about that

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then again, from what i can see, the apis it does use seem pretty fundamental

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the idea is that i have to do jack shit to port it

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and it just runs

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:48 AM

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Which private APIs? 🤔

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:48 AM

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radiant idol Which private APIs? 🤔

whatever uikit uses to render to the screen

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 2:49 AM

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Ah, do you have the link to that file? I'm curious to see

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 2:49 AM

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err not atm but ill try and find it later

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its deep within the repo

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its so confusing

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it makes no sense

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i hate how they laid it out

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xcode doesnt know what to make of it

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my only modern mac rn, my hack, can't even process it as a package

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just refuses to work

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ofc they have the warning "not production ready"

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to me that reads "havent been bothered to make it user friendly yet"

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bcus when you stay within their example w everything configured

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it does in fact work

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llvm::Value *irgen::emitObjCAllocObjectCall(IRGenFunction &IGF,
                                            llvm::Value *self,
                                            SILType selfType) {
    // Ensure self is a class pointer
    if (self->getType() != IGF.IGM.ObjCClassPtrTy) {
        self = IGF.Builder.CreateBitCast(self, IGF.IGM.ObjCClassPtrTy);
    }
    
    // Get objc_msgSend function
    llvm::Constant *msgSend = IGF.IGM.getObjCMsgSendFn();
    
    // Create LLVM function type: id objc_msgSend(Class, SEL, void*)
    llvm::Type *retTy = IGF.getTypeInfo(selfType).getStorageType();
    llvm::Type *argTys[] = {
        IGF.IGM.ObjCClassPtrTy, // self
        IGF.IGM.Int8PtrTy,      // SEL
        IGF.IGM.Int8PtrTy       // zone (always nil)
    };
    llvm::FunctionType *fnTy = llvm::FunctionType::get(retTy, argTys, false);
    msgSend = llvm::ConstantExpr::getBitCast(msgSend, fnTy->getPointerTo());
    
    // Prepare arguments
    llvm::Value *args[] = {
        self,
        IGF.emitObjCSelectorRefLoad("allocWithZone:"),
        llvm::ConstantPointerNull::get(IGF.IGM.Int8PtrTy)
    };
    
    // Call objc_msgSend
    llvm::CallInst *call = IGF.Builder.CreateCall(msgSend, args);
    
    // Cast result to correct type
    return IGF.Builder.CreateBitCast(call, retTy);
}```

the heart of my modifications
this has had several iterations, as the biggest problem w modern swift is how it calls objc_allocwithzone

it needs to call just allocwithzone

which luckily for me, is identical, but im also shit with cpp so this did take me a while (chatgpt was completely fucking useless other than error checking)

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maybe i shoot for the top

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lemme check swift 6

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ohhh shit

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damn the layout has changed grr

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fuuuuuck

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they removed all sdk stuff

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goddamn it

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 3:00 AM

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yeah I say stay at Swift 5 (which is very modern already) and work with that, not a lot of people even use the Swift 6 language mode today

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 3:02 AM

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LMAO 5.3 includes just enough of the sdk for me to probably get it working

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so i think 5.3 may be the max

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nvm 5.4

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grrr why did they remove the sdk

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woeis

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where is the sdk now

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built into the system im guessing

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ahhhh right i know why

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bcus they started seperating swift from objc

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and made it way better on other platforms

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wait wait wait wait

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maybe.. its seperated into a different repo

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perhaps

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yeah nah

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rip

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well shit

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heeheeheehaw what do we have here
https://github.com/swiftlang/swift-corelibs-foundation

GitHub

GitHub - swiftlang/swift-corelibs-foundation: The Foundation Projec...

The Foundation Project, providing core utilities, internationalization, and OS independence - swiftlang/swift-corelibs-foundation

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"on apple platforms, one should use the packaged foundation library"

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troll well what if your apple platform has been unsupported for over a decade

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in all seriousness though, i can tell that swift 5.4 is the hard cutoff

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swift got seperated from its libraries

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which is good

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its really funny how long those sdk elements lasted inside the source

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some parts of it are even completely reliant on it

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not even obj c patches

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wait wait wait wait wait

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swift 5 has concurrency

faint timber Sep 24, 2025, 4:51 AM

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yes

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 5:02 AM

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Is it good concurrency

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Turns out Swift 5.5 has a final branch that may be compatible

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Don't know how stable it is

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Probably best not to do it but

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I can't help myself

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It predates 5.5 preview 1

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💀

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Although technically it's swift 5.5.1 that it predates

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Yeah no it's swift 5.5 preview 1

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alr

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 5:38 AM

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okokokok hold up

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hold up here

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swift 6 might be possible LOL

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so it turns out they merely seperated out dispatch

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so the only thing that would actually require modification is foundation

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but foundation has an open source implementation

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so swift 6 may in fact be possible LMAO

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bro this goes like 5 layers deep 💀

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anyways ima do swift 5.5 pre release 1

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 8:38 AM

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Yeah swift 5.5 has concurrency

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await and async

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hopefully this 5.5 pre 1 has it

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rn im not doing any modifications whatsover

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i wanna see if it works on ios 7 first and foremost

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 9:22 AM

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Alr gotta install big sur to do it

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Gonna dual boot it since performance on Mojave is absolutely excellent

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Runs like a dream

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So ima just use Swift 5.5 on Xcode 11.3.1 (hopefully)

floral notch Sep 24, 2025, 12:59 PM

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yea i figured i was skating on thin ice

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would you recommend execv? i just realized that might be an option

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interface is a bit simpler than posix_spawn

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 1:27 PM

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floral notch would you recommend execv? i just realized that might be an option

Not sure, I have never used it

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I would say NSTask could be worth a look, it's quite simple

floral notch Sep 24, 2025, 1:28 PM

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if i wasnt trying to maintain a linux port id use that for sure

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 1:30 PM

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ohh, interesting

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then yeah posix_spawn is probably your best bet

lime pivot Sep 24, 2025, 2:22 PM

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magic hazel whatever uikit uses to render to the screen

it uses Quartz (CALayer) and that in turn probably draws to IOSurface

floral notch Sep 24, 2025, 7:33 PM

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execvp works but you gotta do this first:

void *libjb = dlopen("/usr/lib/libjailbreak.dylib", RTLD_LAZY);
void (*fn)(pid_t, uint32_t) = dlsym(libjb, "jb_oneshot_entitle_now");
const int platformize = 1 << 1;
fn(getpid(), platformize);

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maybe it fixes system too.........

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that was the workaround for electra

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and works in palera1n-rootless i guess

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idk about dopamine

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posix_spawn prolly safer

radiant idol Sep 24, 2025, 7:53 PM

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Nice that you got it to work, but I would do posix_spawn yeah

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 8:26 PM

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lime pivot it uses Quartz (CALayer) and that in turn probably draws to IOSurface

yeah they use iosurface im fairly sure

naive kraken Sep 24, 2025, 8:57 PM

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floral notch and works in palera1n-rootless i guess

what

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This works in Electra iOS 11

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no other jailbreak has required or even provided this function since

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maybe early versions of chimera did idk

tawny stag Sep 24, 2025, 9:11 PM

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Are there any tutorials or tips available on how to remove/hide update pop ups in apps? (This case Mc Donald’s )For example this update is not necessary but the pop up is very annoying and always redirects to the AppStore

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 9:52 PM

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RIP concurrency is only avaliable on ios 15+ anyways so

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who cares atp

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nah nah ima try and do it anyways

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for funni

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swift 6 on ios 6 would be hilarious idk how i am gonna get it to work tho

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maybe swift 5 language mode wil work?

floral notch Sep 24, 2025, 10:21 PM

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naive kraken maybe early versions of chimera did idk

oops yea im prolly wrong

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 10:22 PM

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Alr

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After extensive testing

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I think Swift 5.4 is the last version I can reasonably get working

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Potentially

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My Swift 5.5 pre 1 is seemingly not working even on iOS 7

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Tho that may have to do with it being improperly built for non embedded systems

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Concurrency only looked in system path not rpath for some reason

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After changing tho it still crashed with a bad kernel error

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Nvm that actually might've just been bcus I'm running a diff xcode

floral notch Sep 24, 2025, 10:35 PM

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floral notch oops yea im prolly wrong

yeah i just verified i am completely mistaken my b

magic hazel Sep 24, 2025, 11:01 PM

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Hmmm I might wnna push to 5.4 either way

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5.3 added multiple trailing closures

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And 5.4 added result builders

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Which both are needed for swiftui and possibly openswiftui

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 2:04 AM

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help 😭

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guard let window = UIApplication.shared.keyWindow else { return }
            let baseLevelVC = BaseLevelViewController()
            UIView.transition(with: window, duration: 1, options: .transitionCrossDissolve, animations: {
                window.rootViewController = baseLevelVC
            }, completion: nil)```

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this is buggy and not working right on ios 13

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 2:20 AM

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self.dismiss(animated: true) {
                let baseLevelVC = BaseLevelViewController()
                baseLevelVC.modalPresentationStyle = .fullScreen
                baseLevelVC.modalTransitionStyle = .crossDissolve
                self.present(baseLevelVC, animated: true, completion: nil)
            }```
is this acceptable

floral notch Sep 25, 2025, 3:41 AM

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chris lattner on result builders https://youtu.be/ovYbgbrQ-v8?t=1456

floral notch Sep 25, 2025, 3:42 AM

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radiant idol Nice that you got it to work, but I would do posix_spawn yeah

posix_spawn works extremely smoothly, tysm

this is what i referenced https://github.com/NightwindDev/BoldersReborn/blob/3c98c329d1c6b792c4b9f351ba7788741ca3443a/BoldersRebornPrefs/BoldersRebornBaseController.mm#L93

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:43 AM

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floral notch chris lattner on result builders https://youtu.be/ovYbgbrQ-v8?t=1456

What's this? I noticed those in the swift patch notes

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I can't remember when they were added

floral notch Sep 25, 2025, 3:44 AM

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i have no clue i havent written any swift in years but he talks about it at the timestamp i linked

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:44 AM

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lmao

floral notch Sep 25, 2025, 3:45 AM

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he has some interesting things to say about that feature

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:46 AM

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floral notch posix_spawn works extremely smoothly, tysm this is what i referenced https://gi...

Nice! Glad it worked 👍

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:46 AM

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Hoping I can get concurrency working on iOS 6

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If so I can write a truly asyncronous Discord client for legacy iOS

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Which should in theory greatly improve performance

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:47 AM

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You don’t need swift concurrency for async operations

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Dispatch api still exists

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:47 AM

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Ye ik you can use GCD however, await and async are basically purpose built for a Discord client

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Or any kind of client really that uses a server

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:48 AM

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And even then I’m doubtful that async await will work with builtin functions

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Idk

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If it does then great

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:48 AM

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Who knows

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:48 AM

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magic hazel Ye ik you can use GCD however, await and async are basically purpose built for a...

True true

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:48 AM

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First I have to see if Swift 5.5 stable works on iOS 7

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:48 AM

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Asyjc await seems to have been introduced in 5.5

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Yeah

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:48 AM

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Not even gonna bother starting if it doesn't

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In theory it should, they supported iOS 9

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iOS 9 and iOS 7 under the hood are extremely similar for the fundamentals

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:49 AM

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We shall see

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:49 AM

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Hey hey!

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That's what I like to see

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iOS 7 Swift 5.5 works

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Wonderful

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:49 AM

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Try some async operations

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:49 AM

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Now I wait for Xcode 13.2 to test concurrency

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:49 AM

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Ah

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:49 AM

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Can't bcus I stupidly downloaded Xcode 13.0

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:50 AM

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L

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:50 AM

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Not realising they only backported concurrency in 13.2

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Very nice of them to do so though

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Sadly they did not backport opaque types

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So I am unsure if porting OpenSwiftUI is possible

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:50 AM

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I say you should write some code to fetch an example json from an api

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And see how well that works

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:50 AM

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Yeah I already have some example code at the ready

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 3:51 AM

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👍

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Let’s hope it works

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 3:51 AM

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Gotta wait 17 minutes to download and another 20 ish to test though :/

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Indeed

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It would be a massive development

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Ngl this is kinda crazy

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Swift 5.1 came out in freaking 2021

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And it does in fact work as expected

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The only limitation I have run into is errr iOS 6's UIKit is slow

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But there isn't really a way of getting out of that unless I rewrite OpenSwiftUI which uses IOSurface directly

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From memory

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Interestingly, the same code runs a decent chunk better on iOS 7, my guess is because iOS 7's UIKit was much much better suited to heavy GPU operations, for understandable reasons

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UIKit is deeply frustrating

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Especially animating

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SwiftUI you have a single way to animate and it always works

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I can't even animate my shadow colour without dipping into Core Animation

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hmmmmmmm

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concurrency was back deployed to ios 13 only

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 5:07 AM

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Yeah no realistically I'm staying on Mojave, 5.4 isn't worth me losing the stability and performance of it. I'm going to now attempt to make my changes to 5.1 in a way that allows Swift to function with all types on versions, so I can make a pull request and hopefully merge changes

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 6:17 AM

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There's a TZStackView in swift

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VS OAStackView which is so so much longer

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And requires bridging

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However, if it's better

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I'll just use OAStackView

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 9:30 AM

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Okay so the patches are oncoming and are probably going to be very large

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I need to a quite a massive amount of work to get OpenSwiftUI to work

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Even to Swift 5.1

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I need opaque types to work

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Now, there's been a number of real swift engineers saying oh well something something breaks abi cant backport

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But I have a sneaking suspicion the iOS 13 limitation is because opaque return types came with SwiftUI

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Shit's getting real

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Might finally make a fork

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Rather than a single commit repo 💀

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Now, I've given up on concurrency for even below iOS 13

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It's not happening

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It took the Swift team an immense amount of effort to get it from iOS 15 to iOS 13

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I looked at their patches and they basically rewrote it

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But I don't need concurrency for Swift UI

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Now, there's a number of projects that implement SwiftUI

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The most promising to me is Swift Cross UI

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it's not perfect swiftui, however, it uses a uikit backend

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uikit i can work with

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plus, it's backend agnostic

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so if i have to, i could create a pull request and write my own "legacy uikit backend"

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however, that project does sadly require 5.10

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But... it is in theory plausible that I can get versions beyond 5.4 to work on iOS 6 WITHOUT concurrency

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But ONLY without it

small sundial Sep 25, 2025, 11:00 AM

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Hey. Does someone know where to hook inorder to get the payload of APNs sent by Apple

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 11:45 AM

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lol yeah apple was bullshitting

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opaque types work absolutely perfectly

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you'll just have to deal with Xcode saying "it's only avaliable on ios 13"

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Even though it most definitely is not

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It'll compile tho

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Even tho it says its an error

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if you don't want the error use -Xfrontend -disable-availability-checking

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however, you better be damn sure you're certain what will and won't work on ios 6

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lol

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but yeah i just made opaque types avaliable for everyone

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so there's another use for my fork

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you can use them below ios 13 now

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idk why apple limited it

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there is absolutely no good reason

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it works perfectly

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Welp, openswiftui may still be possible now!

grim sparrow Sep 25, 2025, 3:24 PM

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small sundial Hey. Does someone know where to hook inorder to get the payload of APNs sent by...

have you tried running classdump on apsd

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I would hazard a guess

small sundial Sep 25, 2025, 6:11 PM

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Oh thank you so much. I'll look into it.

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 8:30 PM

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Does anyone know what Xcode checks against when whining about version compat for certain things

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It's probably my ADHD but I cannot stand having that squiggly line

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 8:45 PM

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what line?

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 8:47 PM

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radiant idol what line?

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its annoying me deeply

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 8:53 PM

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magic hazel

the apis are probably marked as @available(iOS 13.0.0, ...)

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or just write code that works with the old style, idk

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 8:59 PM

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radiant idol or just write code that works with the old style, idk

The code itself works fine

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I made it so

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But Xcode clearly doesn't use the compiler to run the check

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 8:59 PM

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radiant idol the apis are probably marked as `@available(iOS 13.0.0, ...)`

It's not an API I discovered, opaque returns are entirely implemented in the compiler

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I cannot for the life of me understand why Apple made the iOS 13 only

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I had to change 1 thing to get them to work all the way down to iOS 6

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Which is skip their iOS version check

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💀

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I mean the fact of the matter is that whatever swift engineer said they were ABI additive was lying out of their ass

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"some" is syntax sugar

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it's handled at compile time

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not runtime

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has no affect on abi

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 9:08 PM

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there's probably some reason

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see what I did there

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 9:08 PM

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indeed

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 9:08 PM

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radiant idol there's probably _some_ reason

nah i'm telling you

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its c++

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it's os agnostic

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 9:09 PM

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right

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 9:09 PM

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its not like concurrency

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concurrency is a diff beast

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that im pretty sure is ios 13only

radiant idol Sep 25, 2025, 9:10 PM

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and for good reason

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 9:11 PM

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maybe

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we shall see

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Apple already bullshitted me about opaque types

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"cannot be backported, requires too much effort"

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this is the thing

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why does nobody

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try stuff

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just freaking try

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it worked first time for me 😭

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lol i fixed

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it's sourcekitd.framework

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Time to reupload with the new replacement framework

magic hazel Sep 25, 2025, 10:06 PM

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They lied

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Oh my god

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Concurrency works on iOS 10

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I think

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Wait

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Maybe not

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Grrrrrrr

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Nvm wait

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 1:34 AM

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Alr so

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Swift Cross UI works on it's supported platforms

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Cool

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Works as you'd expect

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All is good in the world

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Now, there's a number of very glaring issues

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1: Swift 5.10's open source toolchain only ever compiled for arm64

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2: It requires Swift 5.10

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3: It uses concurrency

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So uh yeah

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Big issues

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 4:41 AM

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lmao swift 5.6 works fine

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minus concurrency

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but still

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that's kinda goofy

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also thats using the old 5.1.5 overlays

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bcus they removed them

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im guessing thats bcus the overlays like

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don't change

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at all

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 5:13 AM

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grr some parts dont tho

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yeah so

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SWIFT works

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like on swift 3

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but yet again

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obj c is broken

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i bet its objc_msgsend or allocwithzone

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 9:22 AM

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swift 5.5 works tho!

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 10:24 AM

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is anybody good with objc macros here ?

i have this function void hookInstance(id instance, SEL targetSEL, IMP replacementFp, IMP* origFp) which instantly applies the hook on the replacementFp

and i want to make a macro thats used like this

HOOK_INS(myView, setFrame:, void, NSRect) {
NSLog(@"my hook is called %@", arg0);
orig(arg0);
}

the idea is the macro handles declaring the function pointers internally

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 10:31 AM

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magic hazel swift 5.5 works tho!

Errr yeah no I'm not handling the weirdness

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💀

wooden yarrow Sep 26, 2025, 10:34 AM

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orchid fulcrum is anybody good with objc macros here ? i have this function `void hookInstanc...

i do not believe this would work in this format

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@orchid fulcrum i believe it might be better to just take in a block as the parameter like a callback

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 11:19 AM

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Okay so

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There is currently a pretty good backport of SwiftUI syntax

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But no renderer

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So functionally useless

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There's also Swift Cross UI

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But I see no way of getting it to function properly on legacy IOS

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At least, not on my own

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I think at this point in time I've done pretty much everything possible that can be done solo

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Anything from this point on would be beyond a massive undertaking

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Well, I made an issue on Swift Cross UI to hopefully spark up some conversations surrounding it

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I will make a similar issue on all open source swift ui implementations

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This is not the kind of thing I think I can do on my own

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If anyone wants to help let me know

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Calling all Swift develoeprs: I need help making a SwiftUI backport. The project is too large for me to undertake on my own.

hexed knot Sep 26, 2025, 11:44 AM

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No project is large though to do on your own

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 11:45 AM

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hexed knot No project is large though to do on your own

Nah I’ve seen SwiftUI open source implementations

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 11:45 AM

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wooden yarrow <@936262477975527435> i believe it might be better to just take in a block as th...

yeah this kinda works at the most basic level (orig also works but you need to pass self and cmd as well, ideally it would be just custom arguments), however i would like to be able to use arguments inside the passed block as well, names don't matter arg0 and arg1 etc is fine

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 11:45 AM

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It’d take solid months of dedicated time that I don’t have just to get it to display

hexed knot Sep 26, 2025, 11:46 AM

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So it'll take a few months

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 11:46 AM

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No I mean months of me just spending time on it

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Except I’m a full time uni student lmao

wooden yarrow Sep 26, 2025, 11:46 AM

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orchid fulcrum yeah this kinda works at the most basic level (orig also works but you need to p...

what stops you from being able to pass arguments inside the passed block

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you could use vaargs or something

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 11:47 AM

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syntax is whats stopping me lol

magic hazel Sep 26, 2025, 11:47 AM

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The rendering code alone ranges from “won’t work” to “so over complicated I may as well write my own ui layer”

wooden yarrow Sep 26, 2025, 11:47 AM

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orchid fulcrum syntax is whats stopping me lol

as in what

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 11:47 AM

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orchid fulcrum syntax is whats stopping me lol

this "block" is not an objc block btw

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just {code}

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wooden yarrow Sep 26, 2025, 11:48 AM

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orchid fulcrum

i gues then just do that except don't treat it as a block either and just embed it in the code? i dont know if C macros allow this but

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also might look better if you put the block as the last argument

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 11:50 AM

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wooden yarrow also might look better if you put the block as the last argument

agreed, but variadic args need to be last no ?

wooden yarrow Sep 26, 2025, 11:50 AM

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hm

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what if the block was a part of the var args

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but that might be ass to handle

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 11:51 AM

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yea

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 3:07 PM

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i will try using c++, looks like lambdas may help

robust bough Sep 26, 2025, 3:18 PM

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==> Notice: Build may be slow as Theos isn’t using all available CPU cores on this computer. Consider upgrading GNU Make: https://theos.dev/docs/parallel-building
> Making all for tweak FakePass…
==> Preprocessing Tweak.xm…
==> Compiling Tweak.xm (arm64)…
==> Linking tweak FakePass (arm64)…
ld: warning: -multiply_defined is obsolete
==> Generating debug symbols for FakePass…
==> Signing FakePass…
> Making all in prefs…
==> Notice: Build may be slow as Theos isn’t using all available CPU cores on this computer. Consider upgrading GNU Make: https://theos.dev/docs/parallel-building
> Making all for bundle FakePassPrefs…
==> Copying resource directories into the bundle wrapper…
==> Linking bundle FakePassPrefs (arm64)…
ld: warning: -multiply_defined is obsolete
ld: framework 'FrontBoardServices' not found
clang: error: linker command failed with exit code 1 (use -v to see invocation)
make[4]: *** [/Users/orangera1n/Documents/gitrepos/fakepass/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/FakePassPrefs.bundle/FakePassPrefs] Error 1
make[3]: *** [/Users/orangera1n/Documents/gitrepos/fakepass/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/FakePassPrefs.bundle/FakePassPrefs] Error 2
make[2]: *** [internal-bundle-all_] Error 2
make[1]: *** [FakePassPrefs.all.bundle.variables] Error 2
make: *** [internal-all] Error 2
orangera1n@J314sAP fakepass %

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how do i uh

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fix this

harsh junco Sep 26, 2025, 3:33 PM

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robust bough how do i uh

Check if you have $THEOS/sdks/iPhoneOS*.sdk/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FrontBoardServices.tbd

robust bough Sep 26, 2025, 3:33 PM

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i do

slim bramble Sep 26, 2025, 3:34 PM

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robust bough ```orangera1n@J314sAP fakepass % make ==> Notice: Build may be slow as Theos isn...

Do you have patched headers

floral notch Sep 26, 2025, 4:11 PM

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orchid fulcrum i will try using c++, looks like lambdas may help

might be worth considering editing logos, or making your own preprocessor

orchid fulcrum Sep 26, 2025, 6:34 PM

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it was because of some block specifics. this works fine

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but i would love to make the block the last argument somehow

heavy zephyr Sep 26, 2025, 11:38 PM

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I think this feature might've gotten removed when macOS Server got deprecated, but does Xcode Cloud support local machines for building? Just trying to find ways to make use of a second Mac on my network..

lime pivot Sep 27, 2025, 12:57 PM

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heavy zephyr I think this feature might've gotten removed when macOS Server got deprecated, b...

it's all gone. you could set up a github actions runner instead

harsh junco Sep 27, 2025, 1:06 PM

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lime pivot it's all gone. you could set up a github actions runner instead

There is also ccache + distcc/Icecream

heavy zephyr Sep 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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lime pivot it's all gone. you could set up a github actions runner instead

I was considering that, but was also considering avoiding GH since MS hasn’t taken security seriously, even with their Secure Future Initiative everything’s basically a meme.. so I might be stuck with just doing everything local or forcing everything to only work with signed/verified commits maybe

orchid fulcrum Sep 27, 2025, 3:11 PM

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@wooden yarrow i manually added macros to support upto 10 args lol, at least it works and looks nice now

📎 message.txt

wooden yarrow Sep 27, 2025, 3:11 PM

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cool

orchid fulcrum Sep 27, 2025, 3:12 PM

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that was a fast reply lol

light owl Sep 27, 2025, 3:17 PM

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@native dune Is it working

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Are you working

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Does she love you yet

harsh junco Sep 27, 2025, 3:36 PM

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light owl <@574669003755356162> Is it working

Do you need help with something

light owl Sep 27, 2025, 3:37 PM

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Making money with slop ios apps

harsh junco Sep 27, 2025, 3:38 PM

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light owl Making money with slop ios apps

ai slop?)

light owl Sep 27, 2025, 3:39 PM

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Yessss

native dune Sep 27, 2025, 3:49 PM

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light owl <@574669003755356162> Is it working

Yeah

native dune Sep 27, 2025, 3:49 PM

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light owl Does she love you yet

Nah

slim bramble Sep 27, 2025, 7:04 PM

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fr

heavy zephyr Sep 27, 2025, 7:11 PM

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light owl Making money with slop ios apps

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

Tenor

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 1:10 AM

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Swift 5.3 works now

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I am actually laughing rn

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It's so funny what broke it

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I was banging my head against a wall

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Get this

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It was the deployment target in Xcode

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💀

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Setting it to 7.0 manually fixes literally every new error

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💀

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Time to go for the big guns

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Swift 5.6

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Surely surely surely

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Man the swift engineers came in absolute fucking clutch for me tho

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Bcus Swift 5 aimed for ABI compatibility, Xcode STILL uses the Swift 5.0.1 stdlib

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To this day

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So I can literally just reuse the Swift 5.1.5 toolchain's libraries and my own

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Awesome

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You will need to install 2 toolchains now rather than 1 but like

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Who cares

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It's barely any extra work

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 1:47 AM

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https://github.com/JWIMaster/Swift-5.3.3-for-iOS-6

GitHub

GitHub - JWIMaster/Swift-5.3.3-for-iOS-6

Contribute to JWIMaster/Swift-5.3.3-for-iOS-6 development by creating an account on GitHub.

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 2:44 AM

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https://github.com/JWIMaster/Swift-5.3.3-for-iOS-6/releases/tag/0.0.1

GitHub

Release Replacement dylibs for toolchain + Build file · JWIMaster/...

Attached is a zip with the compiled components of the toolchain. The folders inside are labeled. Install the open source Swift 5.1.5 AND Swift 5.3.3 toolchain, and then go and replace the component...

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 3:57 AM

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https://github.com/JWIMaster/Swift-5.6.3-for-iOS-6

GitHub

GitHub - JWIMaster/Swift-5.6.3-for-iOS-6

Contribute to JWIMaster/Swift-5.6.3-for-iOS-6 development by creating an account on GitHub.

light owl Sep 28, 2025, 4:08 AM

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Ok

hexed knot Sep 28, 2025, 5:16 AM

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Btw typically when you copy the code from a repository you fork the repo

livid echo Sep 28, 2025, 5:26 AM

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Im trying to get a look at some .ipa. does anyone know why bagbak might be giving this error?

[Error: Unable to communicate with remote frida-server; please ensure that major versions match and that the remote Frida has the feature you are trying to use]

I have matching version latest frida, ios 16..3.1 iphone Xs. I heard troll decrypt might work, but I have bagbak and just wonder why it might be stuck.

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 5:31 AM

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hexed knot Btw typically when you copy the code from a repository you fork the repo

Typically you would, except when dealing with something like swift

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where if you aren't directly cloning it's repo it absolutely refuses to checkout dependencies and build

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i tried forking and it was an absolute disaster

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I still have to do a bunch of license bullshit and readme

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Maybe i'll get someone to make a pr and do it for me i cannot be assed

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too busy on the next version

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 8:57 AM

#

import SwiftUI

extension Text {
    @backDeployed(before: iOS 16.4, macOS 13.3, tvOS 16.4, watchOS 9.4)
    @available(iOS 14.0, macOS 11, tvOS 14.0, watchOS 7.0, *)
    public func monospaced(_ isActive: Bool) -> Text {
        fatalError("Implementation here")
    }
}```

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HOLY SHIT

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THIS IS A THING??

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i need 5.8 now

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holy fuck

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this is going to be so fucking useful oml

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only problem now is that swift was only ever made for arm64 from now on

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so i have to replace a LOT more of the toolchain

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just hoping and praying i can build swift 5.10 with armv7 automatically

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gonna test the waters with 5.7 first

livid echo Sep 28, 2025, 9:53 AM

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Anyone had success getting an ipa to something readable in swift? I just ran an ipa through ghidra but it just looks like spaghetti to me. Is there a script or something that can decode into something more readable?

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 9:57 AM

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https://github.com/LaurieWired/Malimite

GitHub

GitHub - LaurieWired/Malimite: iOS and macOS Decompiler

iOS and macOS Decompiler. Contribute to LaurieWired/Malimite development by creating an account on GitHub.

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 10:26 AM

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WOOOO after literally sitting and banging my head against a wall PAINSTAKINGLY changing back EVERY build file to support armv7 its FINALLY building for it

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lets go

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W

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bcus it takes so freaking long to do im not even going to bother shooting low anymore

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going straight to 5.10

livid echo Sep 28, 2025, 10:48 AM

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magic hazel https://github.com/LaurieWired/Malimite

I literally just watched on of her videos. This is probably the script she uses? Can we export with a complete file?

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 10:51 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I just googled and found it

harsh junco Sep 28, 2025, 12:40 PM

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magic hazel https://github.com/LaurieWired/Malimite

How is this better than ida

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 12:40 PM

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harsh junco How is this better than ida

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hasty ruin Sep 28, 2025, 1:44 PM

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<@&355174844205367317> https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

Tenor

steady nest Sep 28, 2025, 1:56 PM

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hasty ruin <@&355174844205367317> https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderat...

I wonder if there was a way to not have to ping mods, at least on the dev channel

hasty ruin Sep 28, 2025, 1:58 PM

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steady nest I wonder if there was a way to not have to ping mods, at least on the dev channe...

nah there's clearly already enough non-US staff to moderate at all times

sonic totem Sep 28, 2025, 2:00 PM

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Thank god

steady nest Sep 28, 2025, 2:00 PM

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hasty ruin nah there's clearly already enough non-US staff to moderate at all times

yeah, I mean 16:00 EU time is going pretty well, I wonder how it's going from 8:00-12:00

light owl Sep 28, 2025, 2:04 PM

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Clearly 10 am in the us needs more moderators because maxine sucks at her job

pearl sail Sep 28, 2025, 2:10 PM

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hasty ruin nah there's clearly already enough non-US staff to moderate at all times

Shut up icraze

orchid fulcrum Sep 28, 2025, 2:44 PM

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@rocky oriole https://github.com/nfzerox/launchbad-revived

GitHub

GitHub - nfzerox/launchbad-revived: forward-port old launchpad to m...

forward-port old launchpad to macos 26. Contribute to nfzerox/launchbad-revived development by creating an account on GitHub.

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i didn't use this but it seems like its installing the old dock via a script, you can check it out

rocky oriole Sep 28, 2025, 2:59 PM

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orchid fulcrum <@728610526891868201> https://github.com/nfzerox/launchbad-revived

interesting, I'll check it out ty

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SIP, filevault, and that other thing can be turned back on though after it's done... right ?

timid furnace Sep 28, 2025, 3:03 PM

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no

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well if by done you mean after uninstallation then yes

rocky oriole Sep 28, 2025, 3:06 PM

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I meant after the dock was replaced and the old launchpad could be used

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But I guess it's a no then

pearl sail Sep 28, 2025, 3:08 PM

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Better a furry than a Brit and fortunately I am neither

hexed knot Sep 28, 2025, 3:12 PM

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livid echo Anyone had success getting an ipa to something readable in swift? I just ran an ...

Are you importing the ipa or the binary

livid echo Sep 28, 2025, 5:51 PM

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binary

livid echo Sep 28, 2025, 5:53 PM

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hexed knot Are you importing the ipa or the binary

I tried looking with ghidra but that looks like actual hell to me.

sonic totem Sep 28, 2025, 6:44 PM

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https://x.com/birdabo404/status/1971895851657412818?s=46 this is insane

sui dev ☄️ (@birdabo404)

just found out SIM cards are self-contained computers with their own 30 mHz CPU, 64KB ram and some storage space. also runs ‘applets’ written in a stripped down form of java.

u can technically install linux on ur sim lol.

wooden yarrow Sep 28, 2025, 6:57 PM

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sonic totem https://x.com/birdabo404/status/1971895851657412818?s=46 this is insane

who on earth thought embedded java was a good idea

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much less 2 people (javacards and jazelle)

faint timber Sep 28, 2025, 7:37 PM

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wooden yarrow who on earth thought embedded java was a good idea

You know about secure element right?

wooden yarrow Sep 28, 2025, 7:38 PM

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faint timber You know about secure element right?

i do indeed seem to remember something about it running java yes

sonic totem Sep 28, 2025, 8:13 PM

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Java SE vs x86 baseband

heavy zephyr Sep 28, 2025, 8:29 PM

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wooden yarrow who on earth thought embedded java was a good idea

The same people that thought compressing a compressed phone line was a brilliant idea

robust bough Sep 28, 2025, 9:41 PM

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sonic totem Java SE vs x86 baseband

windows on the baseband though

acoustic imp Sep 28, 2025, 11:14 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaeI9YgE1o8 wtf

YouTube

sammyuri

I built ChatGPT with Minecraft redstone!

I built a small language model in Minecraft using no command blocks or datapacks!

The model has 5,087,280 parameters, trained in Python on the TinyChat dataset of basic English conversations. It has an embedding dimension of 240, vocabulary of 1920 tokens, and consists of 6 layers. The context window size is 64 tokens, which is enough for (very...

▶ Play video

native dune Sep 28, 2025, 11:16 PM

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holy autism

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 11:21 PM

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That's actaully fucking insanity

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How does one have time for ts

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😭

acoustic imp Sep 28, 2025, 11:22 PM

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native dune holy autism

^

light owl Sep 28, 2025, 11:24 PM

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native dune holy autism

@crisp frost ahh

magic hazel Sep 28, 2025, 11:26 PM

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real

quaint rain Sep 28, 2025, 11:52 PM

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sonic totem https://x.com/birdabo404/status/1971895851657412818?s=46 this is insane

Simux when??

slim bramble Sep 28, 2025, 11:56 PM

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light owl <@973840094488305698> ahh

Fr

magic hazel Sep 29, 2025, 12:38 AM

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Holy shit things are getting messy

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I did not anticipate building Swift 5.10 for armv7 would be such a headache

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but oh well

magic hazel Sep 29, 2025, 2:18 AM

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Idk how many times ive rebulit this

solar wing Sep 29, 2025, 2:46 AM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/TweakBounty/s/we5M4aFJG5

From the TweakBounty community on Reddit

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magic hazel Sep 29, 2025, 4:42 AM

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YES ESY YSEYS YESY ESY E YS

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GFUCK YES

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FUCK FINALLY

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FUCK

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IT WORKS

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HOLY SHIt

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SWIFT 5.10 NOT ONLY ON IOS 6

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BUT FOR ARMV7

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NEVER DONE BEFORE

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THAT TOOK SO LONG AND WAS SO PAINFUL

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BUT ITW ORKS OH GO

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the swift team made that absolute hell to go through

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please i beg of you do not try compiling this

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you will be tormented

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THIS IS HUGE

magic hazel Sep 29, 2025, 5:41 AM

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https://github.com/JWIMaster/Swift-5.10.1-for-iOS-6

GitHub

GitHub - JWIMaster/Swift-5.10.1-for-iOS-6

Contribute to JWIMaster/Swift-5.10.1-for-iOS-6 development by creating an account on GitHub.

magic hazel Sep 29, 2025, 6:14 AM

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https://github.com/JWIMaster/Swift-5.10.1-for-iOS-6/releases/tag/0.0.1

GitHub

Release Replacement dylibs for toolchain + Build file · JWIMaster/...

Attached is a zip with the compiled components of the toolchain. The folders inside are labeled. Install the open source Swift 5.1.5 AND Swift 5.10.1 toolchain, and then go and replace the componen...

orchid fulcrum Sep 29, 2025, 9:03 AM

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bro doing the most unhinged backports in apple history

magic hazel Sep 29, 2025, 9:16 AM

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Fr

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Maybe one day I will have the motivation and time to attempt a Swift 6.2 backport purely for funni

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Bcus you would never ever be able to actually use it in production

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💀

wind ravine Sep 29, 2025, 4:36 PM

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oh mb

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:00 AM

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made the shittiest pr known to man on the swift repo but like

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who cares

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its just another place a google result can go to

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i fully expect it to refused

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But, hopefully a swift engineer can comment on it

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maybe give some advice on if its a stable mod

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seems super stable to me

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:36 AM

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magic hazel made the shittiest pr known to man on the swift repo but like

link? I'm curious

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:36 AM

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https://github.com/swiftlang/swift/pull/84579

GitHub

Patch Swift 5.10 to work on iOS 6 by JWIMaster · Pull Request #845...

Explanation:
I realised early on that iOS 7 and iOS 6 are extremely similar for the most part, and decided to see if I could get Swift running on the platform. Swift 2.3 and below run natively, but...

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This isn't even a full patch, you need to patch the STDLIB

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lucky that hasn't change in forever

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and used to be bundled with swift

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So i just reuse the 5.1.5 one (apple reuses the 5.0.1 one in xcode builds STILL to this day)

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:37 AM

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hah really

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:37 AM

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yep

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it's actually laughable

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i mean, they bundle swift with the OS now anyways

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:38 AM

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I feel like it has a chance with the exception of deleting stdlib unit tests, there would have to be some way to skip it for the old archs

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:38 AM

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lime pivot I feel like it has a chance with the exception of deleting stdlib unit tests, th...

Possible, it depends on whether they accept my allocWithZone change

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They HAVE to accept the opaque stuff tho

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That's literally an artificial limitation

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I bet you it's only there bcus it's most used in SwiftUI

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which is iOS 13+

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But opaque types are a compile time feature 😭

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They're platform agnostic

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:39 AM

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also, minor criticism that you should clean up the code style, eg you used 4 spaces when their standard is 2 spaces

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:39 AM

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lime pivot also, minor criticism that you should clean up the code style, eg you used 4 spa...

Where

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Must be accident from copy paste

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Depending on file

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:39 AM

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mostly in lib/ eg

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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The only copy paste i made 😭

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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it's not the worst thing, Xcode rudely changes code style like this

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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Indeed

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It's alr i'll fix it

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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to this day, it's still unclear how you set the code style in your project file

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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Indeed

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Xcode has many flaws

light owl Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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@native dune Get a job

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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you have to click the xcodeproj, then in the sidebar toggle the settings so they get written into the xcodeproj

native dune Sep 30, 2025, 1:40 AM

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light owl <@574669003755356162> Get a job

Nah

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Repeatedly triggering the filter will automatically result in a mute.

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:41 AM

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incredible

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:41 AM

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lime pivot you have to click the xcodeproj, then in the sidebar toggle the settings so they...

💀

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:41 AM

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maybe one of these days Xcode engineers will discover that .editorconfig exists

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Indeed

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:42 AM

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also this one is easy to miss but

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Which

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:42 AM

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tabs

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:42 AM

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Oh

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💀

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I didn't even realise that was a thing wtf

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I thought it autoconverted into spaces

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😭

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:43 AM

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I have my browser set to tabs = 2 spaces because it tends to catch accidental mixed tabs/spaces like this 🙃

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:43 AM

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woeis

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Anyways yeah i mean my changes are very stable and work fine, the stdlib changes will never be accepted tho

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:44 AM

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I'm curious to hear what the rationale is for opaque types being gated behind Swift 5.1

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:44 AM

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Me too

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:45 AM

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even if rejected, it'll bring an interesting conversation

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:45 AM

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My guess is absolute fuckall, because I saw a swift engineer on a forum say "oh it requires stuff that isn't in older iOS"

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which, as proven, is complete horseshit

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I have used opaque types in every conceivable way with no issues

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:46 AM

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it may well be that they just don't want to support features earlier than an official support cutoff, rather than it being impossible

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:46 AM

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I mean maybe that's the case but I don't think so because they've backported stuff before

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To this day they STILL support a build target of iOS 7

tepid nacelle Sep 30, 2025, 1:46 AM

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hello kirb

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Thank god for that

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:46 AM

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hi

tepid nacelle Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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how u doing

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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I am 🆗

tepid nacelle Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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good to hear

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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What I'm super interested to hear is why Apple insists that "Swift is only for iOS 7+" when Swift 2.3 natively works on iOS 6

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They even had it avaliable as a build target in Xcode 8.0 beta 3

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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as with Windows and some other OSes like Android, there's a possibility they they can list early iOS as community-maintained at this point

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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I don't know why it was removed

light owl Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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Cause they want people to use ios 7 and later

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:47 AM

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Nope

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They allowed an iOS 6 build target for objc for so long

light owl Sep 30, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Ok

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:48 AM

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It was only ever swift that they limited

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It's rather odd

light owl Sep 30, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Okay

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:48 AM

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lime pivot as with Windows and some other OSes like Android, there's a possibility they the...

True!

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Maybe they allow me a seperate branch

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Or branches

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One for STDLIB and one for 5.10

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:49 AM

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like I think that's pretty fair, if it can be merged without disturbing anything to do with other platforms

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Yeah it can it doesn't affect jack

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Wel...

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Swift 5.10 doesn't

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:49 AM

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but since it's legacy support on an Apple platform specifically, maybe they'll be inclined to say no. here's hoping though

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:49 AM

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the stdlib changes are.. more interesting

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it's really just the removal of all references to munmap

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to my knowledge, it doesn't really have any bad effects

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:50 AM

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seems like those could be passed through a wrapper function that uses munmap() if it exists, otherwise either use a fallback or do nothing

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:50 AM

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yeah rn i just blanket switch to free

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:51 AM

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hopefully that's fine

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:51 AM

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I mean, i've filled memory and had 0 issues so

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I can only assume it is

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:52 AM

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I only say that because Win32 has multiple places you can allocate memory, and all must be freed with the matching function

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:52 AM

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The reason I think it'll be fine is Swift 2.3 never used munmap, at least, not in this respect

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:52 AM

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LocalAlloc/GlobalAlloc + LocalFree/GlobalFree

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:52 AM

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Actually, ykw, I should check what swift 2.3 did

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It might be like allocwithzone

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Where it calls the same function through a different method

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:53 AM

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and of course HeapAlloc/HeapFree

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:53 AM

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Ah, i see why foundation didnt cause any issues

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No url mentions to be seen

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Aha

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There is nothing

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That's why

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:54 AM

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yeah, this is also what the concept of zones is from, which zone you're allocating in

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:54 AM

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The method is just, never called

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:54 AM

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lime pivot yeah, this is also what the concept of zones is from, which zone you're allocati...

My changes don't break anything w that tho bcus it's an identical call

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Just using a different API to do so

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:54 AM

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these days I believe you just don't use zones, which means malloc()/free() (LocalAlloc()/LocalFree() for objc on Win32)

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sort of a relic from Win16 anyway

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:55 AM

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Yeah okay so nothing good there

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:55 AM

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lime pivot sort of a relic from Win16 anyway

Yikes

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:55 AM

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magic hazel Yeah okay so nothing good there

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Whoops

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Misclick

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:55 AM

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lmao

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:56 AM

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magic hazel Yeah okay so nothing good there

Seems they just didn't use anything to do with either free or unmap

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At least, not in overlays

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I bet you they just used the native methods in the objc runtime without any wrapping at all

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Or just manually freed memory

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Either way, my changes allow it to function so it's good

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This has been a wild journey ngl

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I do not recommend anyone trying to build my swift fork for anything above 5.6 tho

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building modern swift for armv7 requires the dumbest build env you've ever seen

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works fine once u set it up tho

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plus, it seems swift is really really picky about what version of xcode you use

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even tho they say "13+" it most DEFINITELY is not

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:58 AM

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this doesn't surprise me, they keep on not updating or not testing their minimum version

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:58 AM

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indeed

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which is pretty good for me because they're not removing old code

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there's still compat shims from iOS 7 in there

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thank god for laziness

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:58 AM

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same as it saying "iOS 7+" all this time when it's broken on iOS 7

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:59 AM

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i mean, i think modern swift works fine by default on ios 7?

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5.6 worked

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and in theory 5.10 may work with arm64

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:59 AM

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it could work now. it didn't work at least in the earlier 5.x days

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:59 AM

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lime pivot it could work now. it didn't work at least in the earlier 5.x days

Well, every fork of mine works for certain

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Maybe my changes fixed iOS 7 as well

tepid nacelle Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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ios 5-26 app eta

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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6

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And eta maybe soon

tepid nacelle Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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magic hazel 6

67

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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I'm trying to get the Swift Cross UI devs onboard

tepid nacelle Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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sorry

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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I know because NewTerm 2 was rewritten in Swift, I made it iOS 7+ because well, I handle all the compatibility stuff and Apple says it should work

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I didn't have a device to test on though

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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lime pivot I know because NewTerm 2 was rewritten in Swift, I made it iOS 7+ because well, ...

How much UIKit does it rely on

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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got a device, tested it, crashes with a missing libobjc symbol in libswiftCore

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:00 AM

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yep

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thats what i had

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i know what ur talking about

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okay

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that error relates to build target

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:01 AM

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maybe it could be made to work now, but I abandoned iOS 7 support a long time ago

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could bring it back, idk

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:01 AM

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if you dont set build target to 7 in xcode you get the wildest errors youve ever seen, and theres a few hodgepodge errors here and there

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it should work in theory

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is the code open source

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the only thing that wouldnt work is uikit stuff but i think i have most of that covered

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:01 AM

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it is, don't know how long ago we changed the target now though

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might have been 2.0 and removed in 2.1 or 2.2

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:02 AM

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HA you make a shim aswell

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protocol LayoutGuide {
    var leadingAnchor:  NSLayoutXAxisAnchor { get }
    var trailingAnchor: NSLayoutXAxisAnchor { get }
    var leftAnchor:     NSLayoutXAxisAnchor { get }
    var rightAnchor:    NSLayoutXAxisAnchor { get }

    var topAnchor:      NSLayoutYAxisAnchor { get }
    var bottomAnchor:   NSLayoutYAxisAnchor { get }

    var widthAnchor:    NSLayoutDimension   { get }
    var heightAnchor:   NSLayoutDimension   { get }

    var centerXAnchor:  NSLayoutXAxisAnchor { get }
    var centerYAnchor:  NSLayoutYAxisAnchor { get }
}```

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:02 AM

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looks like up to 2.1 https://github.com/hbang/NewTerm/blob/2.1/control

GitHub

NewTerm/control at 2.1 · hbang/NewTerm

NewTerm is a terminal emulator app with first-class iPhone, iPad, and Mac support. - hbang/NewTerm

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2.2 jumped all the way up to >= 10.0 apparently

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oh, and libswift 4 in fact not 5

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:03 AM

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You already have 13 stuff marked with compile checks

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So

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:03 AM

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yeah, I make sure of this

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:03 AM

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and this too!!!

if #available(iOS 11, *) {
            newInsets.top -= view.safeAreaInsets.top
            newInsets.left = view.safeAreaInsets.left
            newInsets.right = view.safeAreaInsets.right
            textView.contentInset = newInsets

            var scrollInsets = newInsets
            scrollInsets.left = 0
            scrollInsets.right = 0
            textView.scrollIndicatorInsets = scrollInsets
        } else {```

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:03 AM

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I'm rusty now but I at least previously knew my compatibility hah

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:03 AM

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Yeah this should work fine on iOS 6

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:04 AM

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oh the safe areas of the terminal are my least favorite part of the entire app

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:04 AM

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Yeah i have to add a shim for safearealayout evntually

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It's going to be so fucking annoying to do

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:04 AM

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it was always broken in some way, different ways for different eras

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like pre-safe areas, safe areas, and then keyboard safe areas

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:05 AM

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Oh shit wait what's your build environment

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Xcode

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Cool

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:05 AM

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yeah

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:05 AM

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Alr cool I'll just download the project and build

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No storyboard?

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aw man you use theos

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woeis

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:07 AM

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lmao

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only for packaging in this case

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:07 AM

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so i can't build without it?

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:07 AM

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you can run from Xcode but it’ll be sandboxed and can’t start a terminal

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:07 AM

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We don't care about that we care about if it runs

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:08 AM

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but the app will work enough to test everything else

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:08 AM

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Indeed

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Lets just test a regular nonmodified build

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 2:09 AM

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I always meant to make a sandboxed version of NewTerm that can be used as an ssh client, but never did

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then it could have been released on the App Store too

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but in retrospect that would be a disaster lol, people would download that and email us / 1-star it saying where jailbreak

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:10 AM

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bro

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come on

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really

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ahh i know whats ios 10+

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bunch of log stuff

light owl Sep 30, 2025, 2:18 AM

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Okay

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 2:20 AM

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Oh some other stuff too alr

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So with some patching it could run on iOS 6

floral notch Sep 30, 2025, 3:27 AM

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lime pivot but in retrospect that would be a disaster lol, people would download that and e...

you would have made a ton of money though

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:36 AM

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lime pivot but in retrospect that would be a disaster lol, people would download that and e...

I mean, as long as you were very clear about what it was for, there's nothing wrong you would've done

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 3:42 AM

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floral notch you would have made a ton of money though

oh god yeah lol

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prolly would still be the case now due to people’s desperation

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people sign up for the Procursus Mastodon like they’re applying to please be given an iOS 26 jailbreak appleshrug

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I’d feel bad to take people’s money for false hope though

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:46 AM

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I mean fair

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Jailbreaking is dead

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 3:46 AM

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magic hazel I mean, as long as you were very clear about what it was for, there's nothing wr...

oh it would be made very clear it’s not a local terminal of course, but people both don’t read, and try things anyway out of desperation thinking there might be a magic way nobody’s thought of yet

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:46 AM

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Yeah I guess so

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:47 AM

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lime pivot I always meant to make a sandboxed version of NewTerm that can be used as an ssh...

Call it something else’s then

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SSHTerm

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 3:47 AM

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true

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:47 AM

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or sthm like that

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:47 AM

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Honestly atp I'm actually more impressed with how good Apple's security is than I am disappointed with the death of jailbreaking

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:47 AM

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quaint rain SSHTerm

NewSSH

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 3:47 AM

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I wanted to use the existing brand value of NewTerm but yeah it probably should have had a different name

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NewTerm is synonymous with “how do I run a command on my iPhone”

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:48 AM

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lime pivot I wanted to use the existing brand value of NewTerm but yeah it probably should ...

I mean realistically the audience who actually needs a sandboxed terminal are also the audience that will go seek out a way to get it for themselves

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 3:49 AM

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the 1-stars are still a problem but Apple can kinda be talked into deleting ones that are clearly not fair to your product

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like implying they were cheated out of a feature you never claimed to have

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:49 AM

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I see

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Wait hold up that got me thinking

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:50 AM

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lime pivot people sign up for the Procursus Mastodon like they’re applying to please be giv...

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:50 AM

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First, does apple accept builds made with the toolchain provided on swift.org

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I mean theoretically they should

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They're built directly for Xcode

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I wonder if my changes get approved in any way I'll be allowed to use my toolchain to build App Store applications, that'd be interesting

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:51 AM

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lime pivot people sign up for the Procursus Mastodon like they’re applying to please be giv...

Put a note saying that jailbreak is basically dead

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Or have a mastodon made for just stock things also with a diff name

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Ultracursus or sthm goofy

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:52 AM

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Yeah I feel like it needs to be publicly acknowledged that the likelihood of any more jailbreaks from this point onwards is extremely low

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The hopium has to die at some point

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Honestly I think jailbreaking lived a lot longer than it should have in theory, we got very lucky getting consistently stable kernel exploits year after year

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Trollstore 2 by all accounts should never have happened, and yet it did

cloud yacht Sep 30, 2025, 3:55 AM

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I just wish we were allowed to do jailbreak stuff without exploits

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:55 AM

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Not to mention checkm8 was a miracle

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:55 AM

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cloud yacht I just wish we were allowed to do jailbreak stuff without exploits

iOS Jailbreaking always depended on exploits

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:55 AM

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Checkm8 was the silver bullet for basically a decade

cloud yacht Sep 30, 2025, 3:56 AM

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quaint rain iOS Jailbreaking always depended on exploits

yes but all apple would havee to do is allow us to unlock the bootloader to get anything we use in jailbreaks now

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:56 AM

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It's probably the single most important iOS exploit in jailbreak history

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:56 AM

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magic hazel It's probably the single most important iOS exploit in jailbreak history

And recognizable

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 3:57 AM

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if apple made most decent jb pros a feature

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 3:57 AM

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Also why tf did unc0ver end up almost as recognizable as checkra1n

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 3:57 AM

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jailbreaking would be pointless

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:57 AM

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But yeah, with 17.0 having trollstore and still not getting a kernel exploit, and this being the first time in iOS history where there is 3 consecutive public releases that all have no jailbreak, I think it's pretty fair to say that it's dead

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 3:57 AM

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~~even though jailbreaking is already kinda pointless~~

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 AM

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magic hazel Checkm8 was the silver bullet for basically a decade

it was a slowly molding silver bullet

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 AM

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It's given us so much insight into iOS as a whole

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 AM

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honestly

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the only reason

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checkm8 ipads

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are even worth it

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is because of checkm8 itself

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 3:59 AM

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Obviously

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They're terrible devices

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 4:00 AM

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they are absolutely terrible for daily use

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 4:00 AM

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Apple made a monumental mistake in supporting them this long

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 4:00 AM

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no

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pretty sure there was legal reasons they had to, from what I remember old ipads kept getting supported because of apple being partnered with schools

quaint rain Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 AM

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magic hazel They're terrible devices

Fucking more powerful iPads didn’t get iOS 18 but the iPhone 7 chip device did

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 AM

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as the 6th-8th gen ipads were commonly used not even 5 years ago

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 AM

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quaint rain Fucking more powerful iPads didn’t get iOS 18 but the iPhone 7 chip device did

Indeed

jagged willow Sep 30, 2025, 4:01 AM

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although the issue with them supporting old ipads was solely due to schools just not having enough funding to upgrade them all

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honestly a loss more than it was a win

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 4:02 AM

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How is gmail this big

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😭

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 4:31 AM

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quaint rain Or have a mastodon made for just stock things also with a diff name

it's not mine I just mod for it

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the naming is confusing but can't really fix it now, ActivityPub isn't great at moving hostnames

tepid nacelle Sep 30, 2025, 5:09 AM

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magic hazel How is gmail this big

fat

torn oriole Sep 30, 2025, 5:25 AM

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magic hazel How is gmail this big

five

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hundred

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proprietary

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libraries

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 5:25 AM

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torn oriole five

Ah yes

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Wait I just realised basically every open source tweak or app written in swift for ios 7 8 9 and 10 can probably run more or less on ios 6 now

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grrr the fire burns inside me to port concurrency

grim sparrow Sep 30, 2025, 6:48 AM

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magic hazel How is gmail this big

🧵https://x.com/emergetools/status/1810790280922288617

Emerge Tools (@emergetools)

Good question @VishalMalvi_ ! Here's what's going on behind the scenes of the @gmail iOS app 👇

torn oriole Sep 30, 2025, 8:47 AM

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I love how it's since grown 200mb

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:04 PM

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@lime pivot rip didnt know it be like that

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Ykw now out of spite I’m gonna patch swift 6

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ain’t no way he denied it because it’s on a 10 month old branch bro swift 5.10 is the main version that people use

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Ts cooked

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Would anyone be interested in helping me patch Swift 6?

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By patching i mean concurrency

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I need someone more skilled than me with cpp

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I can handle all the swift

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The cpp not so much

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lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:20 PM

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magic hazel <@239564780271173642> rip didnt know it be like that

ahh fair enough I guess

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:21 PM

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lime pivot ahh fair enough I guess

Grrr not fair enough i don’t like his tone

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His mesage is fair

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(I’m finding an excuse to patch swift 6)

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Also I actually kind of want my changes public on the swift repo

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They never should have done what they did

lime pivot Sep 30, 2025, 1:25 PM

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they are more direct than they need to be, but sigh par for course I guess

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engineers do be like that

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 1:34 PM

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lime pivot engineers do be like that

Indeed

wind ravine Sep 30, 2025, 5:50 PM

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are there any configuration profiles i can use to test stuff?

timid furnace Sep 30, 2025, 5:51 PM

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test what

wind ravine Sep 30, 2025, 6:04 PM

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people are bootlooping and im trying to figure out whats causing it

timid furnace Sep 30, 2025, 6:06 PM

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i uh

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what

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if you're bootlooping i don't think config profiles are going to help you

wind ravine Sep 30, 2025, 6:06 PM

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i think it might be causing it

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its something common with the bootloops

timid furnace Sep 30, 2025, 6:07 PM

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what are you even doing

wind ravine Sep 30, 2025, 6:07 PM

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im trying to replicate the bootloops

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a lot of the reports seem to be using some app profile thing

faint lionBOT Sep 30, 2025, 6:09 PM

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blockota

To block OTA updates, you can install a tvOS beta profile that is specially designed to work on all Apple platforms. This works even without a jailbreak. Note that the profile expires and will stop blocking updates on <t:1801306815:D> (<t:1801306815:R>).

You can re-enable updates by uninstalling this profile in Settings -> General -> Profiles & Device Management.

If you're jailbroken, you can also install the OTADisabler tweak instead, but note that it is harder to remove while unjailbroken.

wind ravine Sep 30, 2025, 6:14 PM

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im trying everything but i cant replicate it

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this is what all the reports seem to say:

they try to apply something
Nugget errors when applying (various errors, some happening before restoring)
the device starts bugging out, so they reboot and then device gets stuck in a bootloop

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for the life of me i cant figure out whats causing it or replicate it

azure pivot Sep 30, 2025, 7:29 PM

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does anyone here actually know what the difference between a mach-o binary built for a real iOS device is and one for the iOS simulator is and how they're able to identify themselves as one another

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I've been experimenting with this and having shit luck

robust radish Sep 30, 2025, 7:51 PM

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there’s a platform field in the Mach header that indicates iOS or simulator (or other platforms)

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you can change them with a tool like this https://github.com/EthanArbuckle/machoe

GitHub

GitHub - EthanArbuckle/machoe: change arch and platform of mach-o b...

change arch and platform of mach-o binaries, convert executables to dylibs - EthanArbuckle/machoe

floral notch Sep 30, 2025, 8:41 PM

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@radiant idol in posix_spawn have you ever tried redirecting stdin/stdout/stderr to a C callback? i see you write directly to a file here https://github.com/NightwindDev/rootless-patcher/blob/d09c5a8cca030b08da1b68f06357e37ad0fcda09/src/RPSpawnHandler.m#L22-L28

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apparently you're supposed to use posix_spawn_file_actions_adddup2() + pipe()

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i had chatGPT generate some code for me, seems super convoluted

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i would just use popen(), but that's broken, for i assume the same reasons system() is broken, but strangely it seems it isn't explicitly marked deprecated

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https://gist.github.com/rweichler/e4237d1f55b9a5a755708cc2be1c0f00

faint timber Sep 30, 2025, 9:00 PM

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notlikethis shell pipe

radiant idol Sep 30, 2025, 9:03 PM

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floral notch <@799410351207612426> in posix_spawn have you ever tried redirecting stdin/stdou...

Not sure, never done that

naive kraken Sep 30, 2025, 9:30 PM

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floral notch <@799410351207612426> in posix_spawn have you ever tried redirecting stdin/stdou...

https://github.com/opa334/Dopamine/blob/2.x/Application/Dopamine/UI/DOUIManager.m#L257-L307

GitHub

Dopamine/Application/Dopamine/UI/DOUIManager.m at 2.x · opa334/Dop...

Dopamine is a semi-untethered jailbreak for iOS 15 and 16 - opa334/Dopamine

magic hazel Sep 30, 2025, 11:35 PM

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Well... I'm going to try and make this even more functional

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Seems that although my Swift 5.1.5 libraries work perfectly for everything

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When you start trying to use concurrency

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Shit starts to crop up

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So gonna do what apple did

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And compile the Swift 5.0.1 libraries

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Or realistically 5.0.3 bcus i'm not manually cloning a commit for the 30+ dependencies Swift has

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And I'm gonna hope those are just as compatible

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If so I can probably just start shipping them in a custom toolchain

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And yes, I am foolishly attempting to make concurrency function on iOS 13>

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Right now I don't exactly have my heart set on iOS 6

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Anything less than iOS 12 will do

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I realise the likelihood of getting concurrency to function properly on iOS 6 is incredibly low

magic hazel Oct 1, 2025, 12:39 AM

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Man the Swift build process really fell off after Swift 5.1

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Shit was so simple

light owl Oct 1, 2025, 1:23 AM

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Okay

acoustic imp Oct 1, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Okay

lime pivot Oct 1, 2025, 2:52 AM

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floral notch apparently you're supposed to use `posix_spawn_file_actions_adddup2()` + `pipe()...

this could be useful https://github.com/hbang/libcephei/blob/main/main/Command.swift#L43

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there's a more complete version of this in Zebra, but, GPL

magic hazel Oct 1, 2025, 12:07 PM

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light owl Oct 1, 2025, 8:41 PM

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No thx

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Not fond of installing random ipas on my phone

floral notch Oct 1, 2025, 10:38 PM

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aight cool i got posix_spawn piping working (https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/Procursus/issues/1465) thanks for the references

magic hazel Oct 2, 2025, 12:44 AM

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hexed knot Oct 2, 2025, 12:46 AM

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Does it pass the stdlib tests though

magic hazel Oct 2, 2025, 12:59 AM

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hexed knot Does it pass the stdlib tests though

pretty much all of them

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at least the ones that dont use ios 7 apis or concurrency

magic hazel Oct 2, 2025, 12:04 PM

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https://github.com/JWIMaster/UIKitCompatKit

GitHub

GitHub - JWIMaster/UIKitCompatKit

Contribute to JWIMaster/UIKitCompatKit development by creating an account on GitHub.

light owl Oct 2, 2025, 12:05 PM

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What does this do

magic hazel Oct 2, 2025, 12:06 PM

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light owl What does this do

General back port library of many new UIKit features

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Tonnes of conditional compilation so you only get what you need

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Basically makes it piss easy to use newer shit

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And for me, allows me to make it easier for the swift cross ui devs to support iOS 6

light owl Oct 2, 2025, 12:49 PM

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Okay

drifting dust Oct 2, 2025, 10:33 PM

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App Attest is absolutely not bypassable, right? For sideloaded-on-jailed apps I mean, ofc its not an issue if you have proper systemwide injection

sonic totem Oct 2, 2025, 11:46 PM

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Anything is bypassable if you want it to be thishowitis

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 3:15 AM

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Jesus christ i fucking hate C

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And for that matter C++

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they always come back to get me

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atomics dont exist on ios 6

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 3:34 AM

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yeah it was lacking far behind even a recent as 14

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 3:35 AM

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faint timber yeah it was lacking far behind even a recent as 14

They were there on iOS 7

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I’m getting ___atomic_store

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Idk Whats calling it

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Idk why

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Anyone have an idea

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 3:38 AM

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no backtrace?

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 3:40 AM

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faint timber no backtrace?

It says it’s looking for it in libsystem b and it’s coming from libswiftcore but the rest is not symbolicated

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I can see the tasks but no what they’re doing

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 3:41 AM

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there were symbolicators back then

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 3:42 AM

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frank fossil Oct 3, 2025, 3:44 AM

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magic hazel

how come older iOS had a better looking crash reporter in plaintext instead of json

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 3:45 AM

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https://github.com/ashikase/CrashReporter
https://github.com/ashikase/symbolicate

GitHub

GitHub - ashikase/CrashReporter: iOS app for processing and sending...

iOS app for processing and sending crash logs. Contribute to ashikase/CrashReporter development by creating an account on GitHub.

GitHub

GitHub - ashikase/symbolicate: iOS command-line tool for symbolicat...

iOS command-line tool for symbolicating crash logs. - ashikase/symbolicate

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its probably still on bigboss

frank fossil Oct 3, 2025, 3:47 AM

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oh I missed that. had a 3GS (with an untether when I received it) with plaintext crash reporting that confused me

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 3:47 AM

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I remember using this way back when

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that was the standard

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 3:48 AM

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this is an ondevice thing?

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 3:48 AM

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yes

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 3:48 AM

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rip

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 3:48 AM

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but it should run fine on mac

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just need the deps like https://github.com/ashikase/libsymbolicate

GitHub

GitHub - ashikase/libsymbolicate: Library for parsing and symbolica...

Library for parsing and symbolicating iOS crash reports. - ashikase/libsymbolicate

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 3:49 AM

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ill try the gui on device first

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keep in mind i do copy in swift librarys after building that replace the default ones lol

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yeah it didnt symbolicate

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wait nvm it did some stuff

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ill send a ss

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wtf is calling atomic 😭

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its refocunt

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refcount

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i know that

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but

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why

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and how

frank fossil Oct 3, 2025, 3:56 AM

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magic hazel wtf is calling atomic 😭

port debugserver to iOS 6 wen

robust radish Oct 3, 2025, 4:07 AM

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they did change the crashlog format. in the osanalytics framework there are methods to get an “old style” report (OSALegacyXform)

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 4:10 AM

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what would usually call refcount

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 4:11 AM

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free and alloc

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aka init

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 4:12 AM

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so everything

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but it doesnt usually crash

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its only in this library

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 4:12 AM

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well what calls init is your custom built lib most likely

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just build with dSYM?

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 4:13 AM

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its not a custom built lib per se

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its just a swift package

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https://github.com/JWIMaster/swift-cross-ui-testing-fork

GitHub

GitHub - JWIMaster/swift-cross-ui-testing-fork: A cross-platform de...

A cross-platform declarative UI framework, inspired by SwiftUI. - JWIMaster/swift-cross-ui-testing-fork

faint timber Oct 3, 2025, 4:13 AM

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thers probably debug arg

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disable strip calls in the make project

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-g -gsplit-dwarf -O0 -DDEBUG

magic hazel Oct 3, 2025, 4:14 AM

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where would i pass that into xcode? is that a swift argument or a c argument

robust radish Oct 3, 2025, 4:14 AM

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robust radish they did change the crashlog format. in the osanalytics framework there are meth...

i have a tool to get these btw. its like a modern version of Lance's symbolicate https://github.com/EthanArbuckle/slog