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#development
frank fossil
stray viper
Talking about this
stray viper
Yeah even if it does there’s no reason to use it over rootless
frank fossil
I have an answer on my tweet thread. TL;DR: yes but needs more work
stray viper
I mean if you can actually write to rootfs then might be worth it
frank fossil
I mean if you can actually write to rootfs then might be worth it
I could successfully mount rw and write to it, and with /AppleInternal folder created before mounting
stray viper
I could successfully mount rw and write to it, and with `/AppleInternal` folder ...
Wow real rootful jailbreak might be possible
gentle grove
Twitter
fading shell
fastest American production car
gentle grove
> fastest **American** production car
That is indeed what it says
fading shell
That is indeed what it says
WHAT THE F*** IS A PORSCHE
gentle grove
> admittedly slower
what, these are all cars
gentle grove
that's like being the fastest AMD bulldozer cpu
Ryzen*
Or actually Intel now
because they seem to have switched places
gentle grove
Twitter
gentle grove
@rotund magnet
acoustic imp
Wow real rootful jailbreak might be possible
let rootfull die 🙏
reef trail
fr
naive kraken
Wow real rootful jailbreak might be possible
Nothing about that would be "real rootful"
thorn hound
real rootful but if you reboot your phone's cooked
gentle grove
its amazing rootful even made it this far with how ugly of a mess it creates on your phone's disk
acoustic imp
cydia was borned
pallid totem
~~cydia was borned~~
remove the ed
placid kraken
bigint
pallid totem
smallint
acoustic imp
remove the ed
Il remove you
fading shell
~~Il remove you~~
Add an 'l'
acoustic imp
Add an 'l'
~~Il removel youl ~~
worthy mulch
would it be possible to compile something for tvOS 18 with the latest xcode that runs on macOS monterey, and where could I find older builds of xcode to install on monterey?
buoyant oar
hi, i was wondering, which macOS version is the best to use in vmware ? because i tried macOS sonoma, and it was way too slow..
orchid fulcrum
they will all be slow if you cant do gpu passthrough, but try as lower version as possible
fading shell
also depends on your gpu
buoyant oar
how can i do gpu passthrough ?
orchid fulcrum
for me 13 seemed a bit better than 14, fwiw
orchid fulcrum
how can i do gpu passthrough ?
you usually cant, what gpu/system do you have
buoyant oar
orchid fulcrum
yeah thats a no
orchid fulcrum
like i said they are all unusable imo, but if you want to try you can try that or monterey mojave etc
buoyant oar
okay
main rampart
Looking for somebody experienced, iOS reverse engineering expert for bumble api bot project. DM for me more info
harsh junco
Looking for somebody experienced, iOS reverse engineering expert for bumble api ...
Have you tried mitm'ing yourself to see all the requests it makes
main rampart
ye
main rampart
it's just not about that
harsh junco
?
main rampart
i just don't have enough time to keep such project up all the time on my own
pallid totem
what are you even trying to do
main rampart
update & maintain bumble app api bot
gentle grove
light owl
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Perf-Support-2048-To-4096-Cores
https://www.xkcd.c...
you shouldve posted this on twitter
gentle grove
No one will see it
frank fossil
Does CVE-2024-54494 look like another MDC-type bug
velvet path
Does CVE-2024-54494 look like another MDC-type bug
based purely on what Apple said it does
but of course it won't matter much if it isn't released
cold basin
how and where can you find addresses with structures where the history of system calls is stored like Task_for_pid
harsh junco
how and where can you find addresses with structures where the history of system...
Fr just find and hook anti{hook, debug, etc} methods
cold basin
Fr just find and hook anti{hook, debug, etc} methods
XPF or Ch0ma find kernel adresses
orchid fulcrum
what can i do in this situation
1 sip and amfi is disabled
2 trying to make an app that uses tcc perms but since amfi is gone popups dont show up
3 using sudo tccplus add All com.myname.myapp prints Successfully added All approval status for com.myname.myapp
4 running the project and calling the relevant function still prints Error Domain=com.apple.ScreenCaptureKit.SCStreamErrorDomain Code=-3801 "The user declined TCCs for application, window, display capture" UserInfo={NSLocalizedDescription=The user declined TCCs for application, window, display capture}
i thought maybe com.apple.private.tcc.allow
would help but it didn't
slender glade
No fucking way
manic forum
- without a jailbreak
the qemu solution was garbage but this one's smaller, faster and more reliable
i'm actually planning to ship this
i need to animate bonzi first though
visual meadow
i don't care
i guess it doesnt really matter tbh
manic forum
(windows actually boots up in 4-5 seconds but something was broken so i added a 5 second delay)
manic forum
bro how much cpu does this use
oh also i can't actually see the cpu usage
visual meadow
does the phone get hot
manic forum
i'm not using xcode
it does noticeably get warmer
i didn't test how hot it gets yet
visual meadow
then probably uses a good chunk of cpu
but tbh who gonna just use their phone with bonzi buddy 24/7
manic forum
it's an x86 emulator, i would assume it does
manic forum
but tbh who gonna just use their phone with bonzi buddy 24/7
the idea is to generate the voices once the user puts in their information and then use that
having an x86 emulator in the background 24/7 wouldn't work obviously
visual meadow
the idea is to generate the voices once the user puts in their information and t...
do you have easy access to wherever bonzi gets its voice txt from
is it just plaintxt or
manic forum
i actually don't know
i think it's a part of the bonzi buddy program
it's definitely not a part of the msagent character file
gentle grove
Linux kernel is easy
I think you just have a bad cpu
defconfig takes me 80 seconds
lean ermine
I think you just have a bad cpu
80 secs to compile linux kernel?
lol
i have ryzen 5 3600
no way it takes you 80 seconds
lean ermine
is defconfig actually building the kernel or just making a config file
gentle grove
if I do allmodconfig its like 10 minutes , I can't remember
gentle grove
is defconfig actually building the kernel or just making a config file
defconfig makes the default cofngi. Then I compile it and it takes 80 seconds
gentle grove
I should test using my actual distro's config just to see something realistic
my laptop takes a few minutes for defconfig idk exactly
lean ermine
i built it like 3 or 4 times for iommu group patching and amfi patching
took like 30 mins at least
gentle grove
Oh
lean ermine
and then i also built it another time for some waydroid patch
lean ermine
dont remember specifically what it was
lean ermine
gotta buy a new cpu man
fo real
gentle grove
iirc my 7700k took like 30 minutes for Linux tkg
lean ermine
when i upgrade something i'll probably upgrade everything lol
sturdy hare
<@593712769144979457>
Wowie looks nice!
Can’t wait to make clippy real again
And bonzi
Trying to find the voice lines
floral zephyr
Does anyone have any suggestions to fix error 6 when trying to update?
torn oriole
Does anyone have any suggestions to fix error 6 when trying to update?
Is this iTunes
floral zephyr
Is this iTunes
iTunes, Apple Devices, 3u, and the apple store
They all give error 6
torn oriole
are you trying to update or restore
Error 6
-
The device did not enter Restore Mode, change USB port (if on a tower, use ports on the back) and restart computer.
-
Unable to resize partition due to storage being full at final stage of updating firmware. The error may be bypassed (restart and do exit recovery) but you probably need to re-update it one more time.
would you say your storage was close to full?
floral zephyr
would you say your storage was close to full?
No. I have 80gb free.
I tried different USB cables and different computers. The apple humans at the apple store tried with a few of their computers and their cables too.
Error 6 seems to have something to do with writing the NVRAM.
torn oriole
have you tried an erase install? (restore button instead of update)
assuming youre willing to lose data
floral zephyr
yes. Tried updating regularly and through recovery. Tried restoring through recovery and DFU.
The apple store people ended up bricking my phone before sending me away saying "I'm sorry, that's weird, we've never seen that before, at this point we call it a total loss".
floral zephyr
SE 2nd Gen 2020
torn oriole
yike
floral zephyr
I need to get rid of this. It pops up every time I unlock the screen and every time I pull down the notifications panel. It's driving me crazy.
torn oriole
I need to get rid of this. It pops up every time I unlock the screen and every t...
can you not ota update?
floral zephyr
can you not ota update?
No. It downloads then reboots to the update screen, waits for a few seconds, then reboots back to the normal mode.
torn oriole
that is more ideal than you think in this case
we can get some logs from that
try find out the issue
Settings > Privacy > Analytics & Improvements > Analytics Data
Try look for some logs that begin with OTAUpdate
The furthest one down that begins with OTAUpdate will be the latest one
floral zephyr
Try look for some logs that begin with `OTAUpdate`
Are they in alphabetical order?
torn oriole
sort of
floral zephyr
I don't have anything starting with the letter O and search didn't show anything for "OTA". It might have just been too long ago or the apple people might have cleared it since they only go back to yesterday.
torn oriole
correct
torn oriole
I think that's the first of the 17.3 betas.
can you kindly try to update again to hopefully create one of those logs?
what are you trying to update to out of curiosity
floral zephyr
what are you trying to update to out of curiosity
I think 18.1.1 is the only one signed right now
18.1.1 and 18.2 are the only ones signed.
The OTA is downloading 18.2 now.
This is what Apple Devices (and Finder) says
torn oriole
yeah i had a phone that behaved like that for a while it was weird
ipsw restore had that cleared
floral zephyr
ipsw gives error 6 every time 
torn oriole
ipsw gives error 6 every time <:sad:815864988253683814>
try shift click restore in apple devices and give it this
just to satisfy a curiosity
floral zephyr
I think I just finished downloading that one. I'll try it.
torn oriole
cause this is an early 18.2 beta
itunes will not work right for ios 18 restores and perhaps not 3u either
so apple devices might be the key
floral zephyr
Actually, mine is 22C5125 not 22C5125e
floral zephyr
torn oriole
bro stealing the neighbors internet 😭
floral zephyr
🤣
McDonald's was down today!
And it's not my fault their router has a WPS vulnerability that gives away their password!
I tried to restore but "An unknown error occurred (3194)."
floral zephyr
I might have selected the wrong one.
floral zephyr
No, I mean I think I selected the 17.3 ipsw instead of the 18.2
torn oriole
ah
torn oriole
ugh
floral zephyr
After that, my phone gets stuck in recovery indefinitely until I use 3 (piracy tool that Gir doesn't allow) u to exit recovery.
torn oriole
did you get any interesting logs from 3u?
floral zephyr
Just error 6 iirc. I can run it again through it.
And why do you get to say the bad word and I don't! Haha.
torn oriole
i think, not sure
floral zephyr
Pro flash was unhelpful. Simply says:"Flash is failed!"
floral zephyr
Isn't there a log button
I don't see one. I'm using it on Windows, maybe it's there in a Mac?
kind herald
I swear there's a restore log button somewhere
I'd have to check it's been a while since I've last used that tool
floral zephyr
Is there something better?
kind herald
3u isn't very reputable so we do not recommend using it
iTunes/Apple Devices may log somewhere but I'm not sure where if it even logs at all
floral zephyr
20:51:44.620: Started checkpoint id: 0x648 (cleanup_send_final_status)
20:51:44.620: device returned CFError with code 6
20:51:44.620: dumping CFError returned by restored:
20:51:44.620: CFError domain:AMRestoreErrorDomain code:6 description:failed to update NAND firmware
20:51:44.620: CFError domain:RamrodErrorDomain code:7 description:query_nvmefwupdater: failed to query nvmefwupdater for firwmare plist (erro
r 2)
After that it repeats this a bunch of times:
20:51:44.620: Sending acknowledgement that final status was received
20:51:44.824: unable to parse regex '"ApECID"[^
20:51:44.824: ]value = [+-][0-9<>IMEI]': 4
20:51:44.824: unable to parse regex '"ApECID"[^
Followed by:
20:51:44.995: Flash error code: 6.
20:51:44.995: Flash error explanation: AMRestorePerformRestoreModeRestoreWithError failed with error: 6
20:51:44.995: Flash failed!
20:51:44.996: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
torn oriole
20:51:44.620: Started checkpoint id: 0x648 (cleanup_send_final_status)
20:51:44....
Do you have the option to put this into a log?
Looking at the full file would be nice
Sounds like the nand may be having trouble
floral zephyr
Do you have the option to put this into a log?
I copied the log. It's long, where could I upload it?
floral zephyr
I couldn't remember what that was called. I got close with copybin.
Anything private I should redact from the log?
floral zephyr
try a pastebin
pallid totem
why development channel
torn oriole
pastebin sucks so much
only relevant part anyway
20:51:44.620: dumping CFError returned by restored:
20:51:44.620: CFError domain:AMRestoreErrorDomain code:6 description:failed to update NAND firmware
20:51:44.620: CFError domain:RamrodErrorDomain code:7 description:query_nvmefwupdater: failed to query nvmefwupdater for firwmare plist (error 2)```L
faint lionBOT
Hey @sick frost, have a look at this!
sick frost
!t dfurestore
faint lionBOT
!t dfurestore
sick frost
these arent very helpful
reef trail
these arent very helpful
because they're for users not developers
sick frost
because they're for users not developers
yeah :(
fading shell
these arent very helpful
check apple wiki
sick frost
check apple wiki
i did
slim bramble
does anybody have a document for me to read about the interworkings of dfumode?
what do you need to know
sick frost
what do you need to know
how itunes interacts with dfu mode when a recovery is happening for example what signatures it is looking for and what the phone does to recover once the file is sent
sick frost
tysm
austere pollen
@grim sparrow im trying to spoof my MAC on iOS 18.0.1 through sparserestore and I was curious how you did so in macspoof
I’ve located the file which holds the private MACs and other network data and exported it using the sharesheet exploit
grim sparrow
<@270540064512147456> im trying to spoof my MAC on iOS 18.0.1 through sparserest...
x
(oops, didnt mean to press enter)
I literally just hooked wifid and preferences and spoofed the value of the randomized mac address to one that was set by the user
basically the same thing I think you're going to do
I just did it the code injection route
austere pollen
On my iOS 14 test device it reverses my changes once I reconnect to WiFi
grim sparrow
the reason for that is wifid will hold a version in cache
grim sparrow
I guess you could kill wifid -> write modified plist -> wifid boots up and reads the modified plist
although iirc wifid is ran as root
so that might be tricky
oh you could totally just use the xpc bug
(probably)
austere pollen
that should work in a controlled environment but how could I pull that off on iOS 18 where I don’t have a jailbreak
pearl sail
I was gonna ask if you could delete the cache but I am guessing that needs root access as well
grim sparrow
well its a cache in memory
cloud yacht
if you disconnect from wifi does it remove the cached value?
austere pollen
I was gonna ask if you could delete the cache but I am guessing that needs root ...
I would say that if it was stored locally then overwriting with sparserestore would be sufficient
grim sparrow
if you disconnect from wifi does it remove the cached value?
idk
I didn't look too much into it
austere pollen
if you disconnect from wifi does it remove the cached value?
I’ve tried changing the plist with WiFi disabled then reenabling it and then it still reverts it
grim sparrow
I always just go for the route of code injection, i hate the philosophy of modifying files
so I only reversed it enough to know which methods to spoof
but that was for ios 14, hot chance its changed now
austere pollen
I always just go for the route of code injection, i hate the philosophy of modif...
I’d rather be able to hook but it’s not an option
grim sparrow
yeah thats fair
cloud yacht
yeah messing with the filesystem is kinda messy
austere pollen
but that was for ios 14, hot chance its changed now
Surprisingly enough the plists look similar
grim sparrow
basically all i can tell you is we're doing the same method but idk how you would execute it on ios 18
austere pollen
iOS 18 rotating MAC might mess with things but I’d be willing to go to 17.6b1 and delay to stay on 17
grim sparrow
you can turn off the rotation part though right?
austere pollen
Yeah I have the network I want to spoof set to “fixed”
(I’m testing on my home network since it’s easy)
grim sparrow
i know when you change it in preferences it sends an xpc message (or cfnotification i forget)
austere pollen
i know when you change it in preferences it sends an xpc message (or cfnotificat...
I’ve kept wifid killed while I was editing but it still reverts
Is there another way to make it reset the cache
austere pollen
im quite tired rn, maybe not the best source
It’s all good, thanks for the help
velvet path
iOS 18 rotating MAC might mess with things but I’d be willing to go to 17.6b1 an...
17.6b1 is unsigned now
austere pollen
really?
austere pollen
17.6b1 is unsigned now
When did this happen
I used this a week or two ago to downgrade
velvet path
yesterday
austere pollen
is there any tool to manually replace files with sparserestore
fading shell
is there any tool to manually replace files with sparserestore
you can just repurpose TrollRestore
instead of replacing the tips binary just insert your own paths
austere pollen
but you can just replace them with your own
now that I look at it it is just python
fading shell
yea
acoustic imp
@indigo peak do u split profit from jelly reborn bc u got ntwerk drm?
wooden yarrow
microsoft nt twerk
acoustic imp
Also @indigo peak I’m giving someone ur @ to ask about Vcam (willing to pay I believe)
acoustic imp
block ota updates on mac ?
cloud yacht
probably can just disable some daemon
trail nimbus
will that also stop it for checking and annoying me with push notifications even tough auto updates is off?
gentle grove
disable softwareupdated using filza
trail nimbus
well i will hope xD
orchid fulcrum
will that also stop it for checking and annoying me with push notifications even...
This push notification is evil, doesn't go away automatically
I will also have to find a way to turn that off sometime, mad annoying
trail nimbus
yeah i know its very evil xD
still dont understand why someone came up with the idea lets make it stay there forever until u remove it and cant even click on x because there is none so i have to open it first
but
sudo launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.softwareupdated.plist
seems to stop it for me, havent tested with reboot yet but i think it should be alive after a reboot again
trail nimbus
but
```
sudo launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.softwareu...
and no badge
gentle grove
git reflog is such a fucking lifesaver
pallid totem
real
orchid fulcrum
false
pallid totem
true
harsh junco
false
acoustic imp
disable softwareupdated using filza
filza on a mac 
austere pollen
but
```
sudo launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.softwareu...
What’s the point of blocking updates on macOS
They let you disable auto updates
blazing warren
sequoia <:woeis:696454260212105267>
Are you below 15.2?
if you plan to update to 15.2
remove the OCLP patches before doing so, if you apply the update without removing the patches it will not be updated and you will have to reinstall the system.
once it is updated with patches disabled, you reapply them
acoustic imp
Are you below 15.2?
if you plan to update to 15.2
remove the OCLP patches befor...
OCLP ?
also yes
blazing warren
Open Core Legacy Patcher
acoustic imp
im on real mac now 🎉
blazing warren
oh nice
indigo peak
im on real mac now 🎉
🥱🥱
trail nimbus
They let you disable auto updates
Because even on disabled auto updates u get annoying push notifications that won’t go away on its own
trail nimbus
Well it wouldn’t be such a big problem if they would just decide to treat it like a normal message
But no
acoustic imp
how
indigo peak
(also ever heard of a screenshot)
I was lazy
acoustic imp
also where ?
indigo peak
Apple Store
indigo peak
trade in + the manager was nice
acoustic imp
ah, "the manager was nice" 😭
indigo peak
485 for my old Mac trade in, then, long story short: the manager gave me the m3 for the price of the m2
acoustic imp
well i drove like 1 mile to get mine so 
indigo peak
they replaced it for free
indigo peak
well i drove like 1 mile to get mine so <:thishowitis:817189359165374513>
I drove 10
acoustic imp
i didnt have anything to trade in tho 
acoustic imp
oh...
indigo peak
i didnt have anything to trade in tho <:Sadge:974171059706277938>
that’s unfortunate
hasty ruin
ah, "the manager was nice" 😭
(
)
indigo peak
I got my first Mac not this past summer, the one before that
acoustic imp
ah, this is my firs, probly wount get a new one till collage or sm
indigo peak
based of your spelling of college ion think you’re going there anytime soon 😭
hasty ruin
based of your spelling of college ion think you’re going there anytime soon 😭
you should see strings from 16player before @radiant idol got involved
fading shell
didWe...
fading shell
still no proof...
acoustic imp
i litterally sent proof
fading shell
no
acoustic imp
idr where it is
fading shell
where
acoustic imp
smh leme find it
hasty ruin
kind herald
16player was zefram all along.
orchid fulcrum
radiant idol
you should see strings from 16player before <@799410351207612426> got involved
Dude it was awful
acoustic imp
nope
sick frost
is there any way to emulate a whole iphone?
acoustic imp
is there any way to emulate a whole iphone?
for what
sick frost
like the bootrom and everything
acoustic imp
technically yes, but tldr now
acoustic imp
development
of what
acoustic imp
idk i wana see if i can find any exploits
ur not, learn oop and objc first...
sick frost
im just a litte skid but i can still try 😭
clear iron
is there any way to emulate a whole iphone?
you can emulate an ancient ass ipod touch
acoustic imp
im just a litte skid but i can still try 😭
sick frost
ur not, learn oop and objc first...
wdym im not
acoustic imp
wdym im not
ur not gona find anything... or even know how
sick frost
i asked for emulator not opinions
acoustic imp
ur not, learn oop and objc first...
^^
acoustic imp
i asked for emulator not opinions
if you have to ask...
if you wana cough up a bagilion dollars use corellium
sick frost
thanks!
acoustic imp
💀
sick frost
are they hosting the vm themselves or something?!?!
why the fuck is it 20k a year????
cloud yacht
yes
sick frost
bruh
orchid fulcrum
why the fuck is it 20k a year????
because nobody else figured it out so there is no competition
sick frost
because nobody else figured it out so there is no competition
they better personally send an employee to kiss my ass
indigo peak
ur not, learn oop and objc first...
learn CGRect first
fading shell
sick frost
does the xcode ios emulator have hardware emulation like all the chips or is it janky?
placid kraken
i finally made the sacred data structure
in elle
including this mega cursed hash thing that i shouldve implemented as a compiler builtin but whatever
orchid fulcrum
elle stable ABI eta when
cloud yacht
never
manic forum
ios tweaks in elle wen
acoustic imp
never
cloud yacht
tbh I think I could make iOS tweaks in lua
manic forum
tbh I think I could make iOS tweaks in lua
i mean
orchid fulcrum
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should
acoustic imp
How did you get that tho ?
Night
acoustic imp
anyone ever have issue with libsandy/tweak pref loading into discord ?
gentle grove
what 😭
im answering your question 😭
why are you talking to the voices
they arent real
acoustic imp
anyone ever have issue with libsandy/tweak pref loading into discord ?
appstore apps*
@placid kraken did u ever have issue with app store apps a flora and laoding tweak prefs with libsandy ?
indigo peak
<@581573474296791211> did u ever have issue with app store apps a flora and laod...
bro whats your issue
like whats the issue with libsandy
acoustic imp
they arent loading ig
indigo peak
😭
acoustic imp
leme investiaget
indigo peak
why didn't i think of that
acoustic imp
lib sandy isnt reporting an issues
is there a way to like probe a dir for perms an app has?
NSDictionary *prefs = [[NSUserDefaults standardUserDefaults] persistentDomainForName:@"com.teslaman3092.colorkbprefs"];
getting them like this
it gets them fine in system apps
indigo peak
is there a way to like probe a dir for perms an app has?
whar
acoustic imp
ok
placid kraken
static void init_preferences() {
// We first get the extended preference plist
int result = libSandy_applyProfile("Flora_Preferences");
bool libSandyError = result == kLibSandyErrorXPCFailure;
NSString *suiteName = libSandyError ? BUNDLE_ID : FS_PREFERENCES(BUNDLE_ID);
preferences = [[NSUserDefaults alloc] initWithSuiteName:suiteName];
id disableInAppsObject = [preferences objectForKey:@"disableInApps"];
[preferences setObject:disableInAppsObject forKey:@"staticDisableInApps"];
BOOL isDisabledInApps = [preferences boolForKey:@"staticDisableInApps"];
// If the user has disabled Flora in apps, then load preferences again with just the bundle id
// This won't exist in the context of the sandbox, so none of the colors would be themed anymore.
// The only problem is that this requires a respring to turn off
// TODO: See if it's possible to use a FloraPreferenceObserver here
if (isDisabledInApps) {
preferences = [[NSUserDefaults alloc] initWithSuiteName:BUNDLE_ID];
}
}
#define FS_PREFERENCES(arg) [NSString stringWithFormat:@"/var/mobile/Library/Preferences/%@.plist", arg]
see fiore im not crazy
placid kraken
if you wanna use libsandy you need to use the absolute path to the plist
placid kraken
Accessing preferences from sandboxed processes was always problematic and most tweaks use Cephei to do it which redirects all accesses to SpringBoard.
In at least iOS 11 and higher, it is possible to instead use libSandy to access preferences in /var/mobile/Library/Preferences using NSUserDefaults.
First, you need to give yourself read/write access to the plist path via a libSandy profile, then you can initialize NSUserDefaults as follows:
NSUserDefaults* yourUserDefaults = [[NSUserDefaults alloc] initWithSuiteName:@"/var/mobile/Library/Preferences/your.pref.file.plist"];
This will work like a normal NSUserDefaults object. Note that this doesn't work on iOS 10-ish and below.
It may also be possible to give yourself the com.apple.security.exception.shared-preference.read-write extension to use NSUserDefaults normally like apple would (e.g. [[NSUserDefaults alloc] initWithSuiteName:@"your.pref.file"]), unfortunately preference extensions aren't implemented by libsystem_sandbox.dylib and I could not find out how to properly generate them (with my attempts they would be generated and consumed but nothing would happen, sandbox_check would still fail), if anyone wants to look into it, the code with what I tried is still there but commented out.
acoustic imp
why wount it work
whats libsandy err 2 mean ?
now it doesnt even work in sys apps 
nvm, just read file manually and it worked first try smh
thin sand
Assistance Needed: Missing Provisioning Profile in iOS App Signer on New MacBook
I recently upgraded to a new MacBook Pro (2023) with everything freshly installed, including macOS Sequoia 15.2 and Xcode 16.2. I exported my active development certificate from my old Mac and imported it into the new one.
However, when using iOS App Signer, the Provisioning Profile field is empty, and no profiles or identifiers are listed. On my old Mac (running macOS Sonoma 14.3 and Xcode 15.4), iOS App Signer works perfectly, and all provisioning profiles and identifiers are displayed.
I’m not sure how to resolve this issue on the new setup. Any guidance or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you in advance for your help.
gentle grove
acoustic imp
is this normal ?
hasty ruin
no not really
acoustic imp
ye ig, but like its everywhere, an i can't just hit the x
miss Windows task bar
i should make an app
visual meadow
one time replayd started tweaking out on my mac and using way too much cpu for no reason
hasty ruin
ye ig, but like its everywhere, an i can't just hit the x
cmd q
hasty ruin
firefox lmao
gentle grove
even with like nothing open :/
it'd be nice if they could display the actual memory usage (the y axis on the memory pressure) as an actual number because otherwise memory used means nothing
gentle grove
Yeah nightly does that for me as well
does what
It just looks like they have many tabs open
cold basin
hi, I did a quick search here and found the structure “struct sysent” and “Audit”, but I can’t figure out which one stores the latest system calls
weary heath
it'd be nice if they could display the actual memory usage (the y axis on the me...
fr
wooden yarrow
multiplication is insane
(i mean yes, theoretically you can just do repeated addition but that's going to be O(n) if addition was O(1) instead of O(b) where b is the number of bits)
gentle grove
Twitter
gentle grove
multiplication is insane
are you manually implementing multiplication for some reason?
wooden yarrow
are you manually implementing multiplication for some reason?
yeah
working with a machine that has no mul insns
(nor sub insns)
(not even bit shift operators)
wooden yarrow
what machine
LC-3
thin sand
Subject: Assistance Needed: Issue with iOS App Signer Provisioning Profiles
Hi Emirates,
I’ve tried several times, but the issue persists. I checked the directory at ~/Library/Developer/Xcode/UserData/Provisioning Profiles and found 20 items listed there. However, the Provisioning Profiles field in iOS App Signer remains empty.
As a result, I’m unable to deploy, and I keep receiving error messages when signing and attempting to install on my Apple TV 4K. The installation consistently fails.
Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you,
okay, will copy it and get back to you. Do i reboot after copy?
ok
Great bud, I got it listed under iOS App Signer
cannot believe it but let me try to deploy Safari Browser to my Apple TV4K
gentle grove
just emails in general
thin sand
Safari Browser deployed and working great. Thank you and i really appreciate it brother.
native dune
**Subject:** Assistance Needed: Issue with iOS App Signer Provisioning Profiles ...
ChatGPT ass message
gentle grove
chatgpt ass-message
orchid fulcrum
**Subject:** Assistance Needed: Issue with iOS App Signer Provisioning Profiles ...
this is so cool
i wish everyone texted like this all the time
sturdy hare
oh god
indigo peak
@silver rampart
do you know of any changes to the way objc classes and protocols are stored in dsc going from 17to 18?
im running into a weird bug with updating dyldex and its coming from parsing objc_class_t and objc_protocol_t
any of the struct vals that are 0x0 on 17 are 0x180000000 now
(edit) moreover:
elif slideInfo.version == 5:
slideInfo = dyld_cache_slide_pointer5(context.file, offset)
if slideInfo.auth.auth:
value = info.slideInfo.value_add + slideInfo.auth.runtimeOffset
else:
value = info.slideInfo.value_add + slideInfo.regular.runtimeOffset
print(f"Value: {hex(value)}")
return value
value holds said 0x180000000 value on some variables now
top 18
bottom 17
pallid totem
i wanna make a tweak
but idk what
someone give me ideas 👍
wtf does vertical home screen scroll mean 
oh u mean
ohhh
yeah im not doing that
will probably 
myself
3 can actually be kinda helpful
4 and 5 is pure comedy tho LMAO
1 too
indigo peak
wait i think ive asked this before
do you mean
instead of horizontal its vertical
OR
horizontal scrolling
but you can "hide icons" and scroll down to them
ok
hasty ruin
nah hook uiimageview setimage and randomly return ntwerk
pallid totem
nah hook uiimageview setimage and randomly return ntwerk
how about delete /var/keybags?
sounds like a good idea too
HomeScreenBootloop
hasty ruin
how about delete /var/keybags?
bibi fire has a patent on that unfortunately
hasty ruin
TypeCentury
hasty ruin
Nightwind guide
pallid totem
wait what show me LMAO
pallid totem
^
ok cool
not sure how far ill get without macOS tho 
whys this built into ios releases
why
😭
o
what if
hardcode
LMAO
does it really show
oh my god
😭
i can test on 16.1.1
i cant compile rn
send ipa
:D
wait tweaks aren’t fancy ipa’s??
whats so bad about rootless 😔
🔥
now how do i install the deb’s 
sillyo?
acoustic imp
<@755485349060280351> wheres popoutbuttons
chariz?
[[popoutbuttons[[
oops
[[popoutbuttons]]
bruh
manic forum
1126 lines if it isnt bluffing
"Installed" implies that I could easily extract them (?)
pallid totem
418 I’m A Teapot
sturdy hare
"Installed" implies that I could easily extract them (?)
Pre installed. Most of the text is called for in the exe and I don’t know if it’s in the exe or else where I am looking into it now as I fell asleep
lyric heron
disguise this as 16 player crack and upload it to havoc
lyric heron
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266535437967691826/1318273651677859870/g...
is that really breaking news though
fading shell
he was already guilty in the court of public opinion
vernal rapids
excuse me? does anyone here know how to remove UI elements from apps?
acoustic imp
excuse me? does anyone here know how to remove UI elements from apps?
Kinda depends on the app but generally yes
gentle grove
read alignment is a funny thing
vernal rapids
Kinda depends on the app but generally yes
I’d really like to remove the “info” buttons from photos and videos as it clutters up the UI
And I also REALLY want the DL button and 3 fit menus on every song in the music app removed as not only does it create a stupid lag when loading my music! But it’s cluttering up my tiny screen so I can’t read things right!
If anyone can help me I’d be extremely grateful!
I’m on iPod touch 7 with iOS 15.8.3
kind herald
Omg kitty cat
vernal rapids
Omg kitty cat
The Orange boyo is Rufus and he’s a Maine coone that I pet sit for my neighbor! And the British Bombay was my late 17 year old girl called Puma
But yeah these redundant UI “additions” weren’t there in 14.4.2 and I never had any lag when playing songs before these THINGS showed up!
Do note I never use Spotify or any streaming stuff and all my music is MP3 files through iTunes
manic forum
MP3 files?? 😭
gentle grove
m4a was better iirc
That's just a container, typically you put AAC but honestly it doesn't matter
most people can barely tell the difference between even 128 kbps mp3
most people can't even
manic forum
i thought you could only put mp3 data in an mp3 file
manic forum
most people can barely tell the difference between even 128 kbps mp3
true tbf
indigo peak
i listen to my music thru mp4
indigo peak
i just open the photos app and dont lock my phone while watching a video
gentle grove
OK that's worse
manic forum
when you realize the video also has aac
vernal rapids
bruh ya'll have too much beef with MP3's
does anyone know how to get thoes UI elements removed?
gentle grove
bruh ya'll have too much beef with MP3's
mp3 is great don't listen to them
especially with modern encoders like LAME
and with VBR
manic forum
mp3 is great don't listen to them
gentle grove
What's thus
manic forum
daftpunk.mp3
vernal rapids
bruh what the hell? how did you get this so LOW quality? none of my MP3's are that shitty
gentle grove
alright
I was currently modeling my video editor as a pull model, but I think I need to turn everything upside down and make it a push model
pallid totem
dead chat xd
hasty ruin
most people can barely tell the difference between even 128 kbps mp3
Nah 128 you definitely can
320 sure
faint lionBOT
hasty ruin
Shut up gir
placid kraken
@manic forum you are gonna love todays' one
took me 1 hour to complete and i still got like top 300
leaderboard filled in 44 mins
half the people on the vencord leaderboard have done p1 but not p2 and it came out 7 hours ago
pallid totem
Shut up gir
Shut up gir
obtuse hornet
What Kind of a binary is TrollStores PersistanceHelper_Embedded (https://github.com/opa334/TrollStore/releases/download/2.1/PersistenceHelper_Embedded) and is there a way to create a similar or even better to port an ipa to such a file?
Any help is appreciated!
kind herald
It's a regular app binary
You can replace any app binary in an IPA with the TrollStore persistence helper, but it won't work for it's intended purpose
obtuse hornet
Oh wait no, I said it wrong. I meant to ask what kind of a file the persistencehelper was. And if there was a way to port an ipa to that format.
kind herald
Oh
It's just an app binary, you can take a binary from an IPA file but it may not run
pearl sail
Shut up gir
british ciggy says what?
native dune
Based
worn briar
hasty ruin
british ciggy says what?
Mods
manic forum
<@448121249223147530> you are gonna love todays' one
so i kinda stopped doing it
i've been really busy
but i might do the one on friday
placid kraken
yeah i noticed lol
i’m still at the top of all of my leaderboards even after today’s atrocity
gentle grove
Nah 128 you definitely can
You are right that I can, but again most people can't
For me its because of the frequency response
hollow owl
How to bulid tipa file ?
faint timber
learn how to learn
clear iron
learn how to learn
this goes so hard ngl
faint timber
this goes so hard ngl
its true though, one crutial step would answer the question
gentle grove
I love learning
pearl sail
What did you learn today?
faint timber
I learned of a change apple made that broke post exploit stuff in 17
clear iron
Yay
faint timber
it was an easy fix tho
pearl sail
Cool
gentle grove
What did you learn today?
That I hate everything
computers suck so much
I think I am starting to get a handle however
faint timber
Probably me in my early teen years trying to comprehend exploits ^
faint timber
The clock is ticking get good™️
pearl sail
Me staying mid 
gentle grove
I think I am starting to get a handle however
am trying to figure out how to design stuff for my video editor
pearl sail
Sorry boba my mind wins over matter in my case and not in a good way
orchid fulcrum
can somebody do a code review please
(loop that reconstructs udp fragments)
struct packet { //fragment
unsigned byteCount; //size of the fragment
char bytes[4080]; //buffer
}
while(true){
static std::vector<char> buf;
void* rdata = malloc(1024*1024*200 * sizeof(char));
con->receiveData(rdata);
//std::cout << "recieved size: " << ((connection::packet*)rdata)->byteCount <<"\n";
if (((connection::packet*)rdata)->byteCount < 4080) {
//Last fragment of a sent data
buf.insert(buf.end(),((connection::packet*)rdata)->bytes,((connection::packet*)rdata)->bytes + ((connection::packet*)rdata)->byteCount);
free(rdata);
rdata = NULL;
dispatch_async(dispatch_get_main_queue(), ^{
[[[(AppDelegate*)[NSApplication.sharedApplication delegate] window] contentViewController] updateMonitorWithData:buf.data() size:buf.size()];
});
std::cout << "last bufsize: " << buf.size() << "\n";
buf.clear();
buf.shrink_to_fit();
}
else{
buf.insert(buf.end(),((connection::packet*)rdata)->bytes,((connection::packet*)rdata)->bytes + ((connection::packet*)rdata)->byteCount);
free(rdata);
rdata = NULL;
}
}```can you reformat this more consistently, try clang-format maybe
its very hard to read
Maybe it is being confounded by being too long for my phone screen
orchid fulcrum
can you reformat this more consistently, try clang-format maybe
~~how do i do that ~~
orchid fulcrum
yeah this is inside -(void) main of a thread
i am using this to recieve the pixelbuffer of the display. current result is like this (colors are somewhat received fine, but not in a meaningful order)
harsh junco
~~how do i do that ~~
clang-gormat -style=GNU -i file.cpp
orchid fulcrum
i am using this to recieve the pixelbuffer of the display. current result is lik...
there is at least a little progress 💀
fiery dragon
there is at least a little progress 💀
xcode 
vernal rapids
Does anyone know why the battery life tanks with every IOS update? I used to have 5 hours but 1 update and it’s tanked to 2
torn oriole
Does anyone know why the battery life tanks with every IOS update? I used to hav...
Cause it's regenerating caches in the background after the update
Leave it alone for at least 24 hours or so and it should return to normal
gentle grove
Twitter
manic forum
https://x.com/trashh_dev/status/1869064009758150679?t=uKjJjvWfdHUzsCEfMGcNlQ&s=1...
xcode is worse imo
cloud yacht
I right click the jumping tray icon and hit force quit
vernal rapids
Cause it's regenerating caches in the background after the update
It’s been doing this for over a week though…is there a way of stopping it now? It’s been living off of “low power mode” for the last 2 days to stretch the power for another 2 hours
noble rover
https://github.com/n3d1117/XNotForMe/blob/main/Tweak.xm
Im trying to figure what this tweak is doing, so I can attempt to make adjustments to it. Could someone kindly give me a bit of help?
The issue I am having is that yes, this tweak works kinda as intended, but it also has the side effect of hiding pinned lists, which is a feature I use. I would like to modify it to not do that.
torn oriole
https://github.com/n3d1117/XNotForMe/blob/main/Tweak.xm
Im trying to figure wha...
its a bit tricky at a glance because it is specifically talking about twitter
noble rover
I tried looking at stuff with flex enabled and all it did was make my head spin lmao
torn oriole
at a glance it is simply overwriting the number of horizontal tabs to 1 and hiding that view that used to show the tabs it has now hidden
which appears to be what the latter hook is responsible for
noble rover
at a glance it is simply overwriting the number of horizontal tabs to 1 and hidi...
I see, thanks for clarifying that for me
torn oriole
theres a few extra steps in hindsight but thats the blunt of it
noble rover
Im trying to modify this tweak because it doesnt seem like anything else exists that does what it does
torn oriole
it appears you could remove the latter hook, which would return the display where i assume the pinned tab thing is supposed to be
hasty ruin
torn oriole
but i dont think it would function anymore
noble rover
probably a sign I shouldnt be using twitter anymore but yea
indigo peak
a segmented controller, and all that is is a segmented button, so looks like this:
Option 1 | Option 2 | Option 3
which should remind you of the tab bar at the top of your fyp representing
For you Following
so TFNScrollingSegmentedViewController is a class that creates these seg views. so since its a class, its used in multiple locations, so when we do a hook to change a value, we need to specify which controller we're talking ahout,
so the line:
if([[self.parentViewController class] isEqual:NSClassFromString(@"THFHomeTimelineContainerViewController")])
is just to check if the controller we're looking at is the right one. if it is the right one, we're going to return 1, which is the index of the view. so the index just represents what page were looking at, so 0 is the first page, 1 is the second page.
so
if it's the right controller {
return index of "Following"
}
return the regular index
there's multiple methods that determine what page you're on it seems, so that's why lines 8-38 has 4 hooks.
and then the hook for layoutsubviews is just to check if the label is the right label we're looking for, if so, just don't draw it to screen
@noble rover
torn oriole
holy shit
noble rover
a segmented controller, and all that is is a segmented button, so looks like thi...
oh my you are amazing
thanks so much
torn oriole
solid fiore moment
indigo peak
@hasty ruin LMAO
hasty ruin
good morning
acoustic imp
welcome to Apple Park
torn oriole
we're glad you could join us for what promises to be
noble rover
a segmented controller, and all that is is a segmented button, so looks like thi...
Correct me if Im wrong
So I can have it not hide the tab
torn oriole
16Player developers i swear
noble rover
and work from there
gentle grove
i need some paper to plan this shit
indigo peak
So I can have it not hide the tab
yes
noble rover
I see thanks
indigo peak
just comment out this
@interface TFNScrollingHorizontalLabelView
- (id)delegate;
@end
%hook TFNScrollingHorizontalLabelView
- (void)layoutSubviews {
if([[self.delegate class] isEqual:NSClassFromString(@"TFNScrollingSegmentedViewController")]) {
TFNScrollingSegmentedViewController *segmentedController = (TFNScrollingSegmentedViewController *)self.delegate;
if ([[segmentedController.parentViewController class] isEqual:NSClassFromString(@"THFHomeTimelineContainerViewController")]) {
return;
}
}
%orig;
}
%end
I will have to try this when I get home, thanks again
noble rover
Okay so I commented that out. I need theos to compile it correct?
indigo peak
Okay so I commented that out. I need theos to compile it correct?
correct
noble rover
correct
Alrighty I will have to compile it later, as I am unable to access a computer with theos. Thanks for the help again
gentle grove
Twitter
gentle grove
do i need 3.9 exactly ?
this program has the shebang set to use 3.9 specifically so yes
acoustic imp
k
acoustic imp
this program has the shebang set to use 3.9 specifically so yes
how might i get 3.9, i dont see any installers on py website ?
oh jk
im blind
does ot matter the like 3.9.x ?
gentle grove
does ot matter the like 3.9.x ?
choose the latest one that's 3.9.X
gentle grove
Alright maybe I have to eat my words and name something a factory
acoustic imp
huh 😭
oh well got it working
it still generates the dylib
i jus manually copied it
manic forum
I right click the jumping tray icon and hit force quit
that usually doesn't work for me
it opens up anyway, shows up for a second and disappears
noble rover
ngl I have absolutely no idea how to use theos
I theoretically have it installed correctly
hollow oar
noble rover
just comment out this
```
@interface TFNScrollingHorizontalLabelView
- (id)dele...
so I managed to build with this commented out, seems to just work like stock Twitter. I suppose I'm supposed to figure which segment is the for you tab?
noble rover
okay so instead of it hiding the whole tab it needs to just hide "0"
if I'm understanding that right
noble rover
just comment out this
```
@interface TFNScrollingHorizontalLabelView
- (id)dele...
perhaps i should change this instead of comment it out so it hides "0". not quite sure how to do that
Honestly this is all above my knowledge. Thanks for the help anyways
indigo peak
so what's your end goal
noble rover
so what's your end goal
Not sure. I started looking into it just to fix this tweak, but i've never touched anything development related for ios, besides some swiftui stuff i did in HS
You've given more than enough help than i deserve, appreciate it
if anyone does know someone who could fix it i'd happily throw some money for their time
noble rover
@indigo peak i did find the For you tab label, though i don't know if it's useful
and the cell for the label
cloud yacht
that usually doesn't work for me
You underestimate how slow my machine is
noble rover
@indigo peak I've gotten most of the way, to where now the For You tab is just a duplicate feed of the Following tab.
Can't seem to completely hide the tab
this is probably as far as i'm gonna get without more help unfortunately
my head hurts 
wooden yarrow
my head hurts <:YuLaugh:690886246557548594>
breadcat hiii
noble rover
breadcat hiii
Hiya
this is tortuous
I'm trying to modify a existing tweak that hides the for you tab, but so that it doesn't had my pinned lists
not going well
noble rover
I've pretty much given up, so if anyone wants to throw their hat in, I made a tweak bounty for it
https://old.reddit.com/r/TweakBounty/comments/1hhwy8a/35180_tweak_to_hide_the_for_you_tab_in_twitter
naive kraken
I've pretty much given up, so if anyone wants to throw their hat in, I made a tw...
just stop using twitter
best solution
doesn't even require $35
slim bramble
fr
noble rover
just stop using twitter
I follow a lot of artists that still only use twitter. Believe me i would love to stop using the platform.
I would be fine with the for you tab, but with my pinned lists, every time i exit the app it switches to the for you tab.
I spent hours this morning trying to hide the tab but i don't know what the hell i'm doing
timid furnace
nitter is half broken on a good day
gentle grove
Twitter
vernal rapids
https://x.com/RyanEls4/status/1869642725899010415?t=dKb2QkoTtEEhUWo-LgziIQ&s=19
I hate that I low-key agree with the image,
lemme explain a smidge!
so I scored a seized up Brother Lock 760 Serger for 10$ cuz it needed work done to it!
I have 0 knowledge on how to fix really...anything!
I bought sewing machine oil for $10.05 and after 7 hours of messing with it and greasing it up worse then some toys on explicit websites! I now have a fully functional serger that's quiet and does my seams with more efficiency and speed then my standard sewing machine!
so now I can make sewn up gifts for my friends and for cosplays easier because I fiddled with something that other people wouldn't bother with because it wasn't perfect!
and while I'll never get that 7 hours back? it actually WAS kinda fun to fix!
so I think if one has the time and the skills? then fix the smol software/hardware bug! make someones elses day a smidge brighter!
vernal rapids
yeah I had a blast of coding kindness the other day so I felt compelled to share
nice dude on the reddit helped me figure out how to make a theme so I could make my music app icon NOT bubblegum pink!
you guys do such neat looking stuff in here that I like poking in to see whats up!
so whats the new big projects around here sofar?
gentle grove
im making a video editor
rosie is making a programming language
and idk what else
sometimes people come in here for jb dev
gentle grove
im making a video editor
so about that, making everything push oriented maybe is a way around async
no i dont think it is
i need to learn to make an async runtime
or should i go with channel callback hell
gentle grove
or should i go with channel callback hell
should i just write it like this the first time
gentle grove
you are slop
pallid totem
:/
vernal rapids
im making a video editor
for IOS or for something else?
vernal rapids
my best "programming" is in the Maya Node editor
gentle grove
i wanna make something where you can write your video as code
vernal rapids
ok that sounds freaking cool dude!
pallid totem
i wanna make something where you can write your video as code
dawg what
gentle grove
pallid totem
write code and get a video from it?
gentle grove
yeah you write code to do the transformations instead of using a gui
and then a future addition could be adding gui-oriented editing like existing editors
vernal rapids
this is my best programming sofar! its a mass controller setup for individual feather in a wing rig
gentle grove
because i need to do lots of procedural and tightly synchronized things for the kind of videos i used to make in minecraft, and doing that with a gui was horrible
you cant just tie things together and make them reactive on eachother
vernal rapids
hmmm I think personally that having a GUI is needed! but having a area to input code directly for fine tweaks or to add custom effects would DEFINITELY be great for people who can do that!
gentle grove
i probably would have a gui part for actually seeing stuff
but the actual manipulation would be written down as text
and i like having much more introspectable file formats, other video editors are all pretty opaque binary formats
text files and source code are nice
vernal rapids
wait? you said someone here is writing a whole new programming language?
gentle grove
yeah
vernal rapids
dude thats insane!
gentle grove
@placid kraken is
vernal rapids
I spent like 7 years just to see if my brain could grasp a SINGLE ONE and ended up landing flat on my face with it all
I got as far as "hello world" and then my brain couldn't do anything with any of the info...
I tried:
Python2
Python3
MEL
RGSS
RGSS2
RGSS3
Ruby
Lua
Html
Java
C
C++
and never got anywhere
the only thing my brain likes is nodes! but nothing outside of specific programs is nodes...and it doesen't really convert to normal scripts either
so i'm hooped
hows development on your video editor going?
pallid totem
yeah you write code to do the transformations instead of using a gui
uhh
gentle grove
hows development on your video editor going?
idk what im doing
pallid totem
you dont see my vision
explain it more im actually curious
gentle grove
like you know
you edit the video by writing code instead of clicking things in the gui
write lua functions to do it
then you can do stuff based on variables you know
make it more flexible
gentle grove
im trying to figure out how to design the api for filters and nodes
pallid totem
im trying to figure out how to design the api for filters and nodes
what do u need an api for
gentle grove
what do u need an api for
that's what you'll be using in lua
pallid totem
true but i hate hate hate hate hate lua
gentle grove
i don't
gentle grove
true but i hate hate hate hate hate lua
what do you actually hate about it though, out of curiosity
pallid totem
what do you actually hate about it though, out of curiosity
i mean
it’s simple and all
but like
it’s missing some key features that other languages like js, python or others have
vernal rapids
oooh so its too bare bones for your tastes?
pallid totem
for example, you can’t really have libraries in lua
pallid totem
oooh so its too bare bones for your tastes?
sort of yea
pallid totem
for example, you can’t really have libraries in lua
like the ones that u can just import and then use right away lol
vernal rapids
so this may be a VERY dumb question...but how do you guys know in which order to write things? or even test them?
outside of hello world I never figured out where to test anything or HOW to write anything
gentle grove
for example, you can’t really have libraries in lua
it has some stdlib functions though
i cant tell you exactly what ones
its definitely more targeted for being a scripting language
vernal rapids
unless I typed out the example letter for letter and space for space it neevr worked for me
gentle grove
its definitely more targeted for being a scripting language
maybe i am only thinking about lua from this perspective
pallid totem
it has some stdlib functions though
some
gentle grove
i'll probably disable the std lib functions in my editor so you have to use mine
pallid totem
cant have unofficial libraries tho
vernal rapids
I've always wanted to learn A language...and be able to do something...but without an envorinment to play around and test things? nothing ever stuck for me and I got nowhere...so how do you guys do it?
gentle grove
cant have unofficial libraries tho
wdym
vernal rapids
what does that have to do with anything?
gentle grove
hes capt
gentle grove
outside of hello world I never figured out where to test anything or HOW to writ...
you gotta understand at least a little bit about what's going on
like conceptually how things work
that's how you make new things and come up with new ideas
vernal rapids
ok but how are you supposed to learn how to do something conceptually if you can't take it appart and put it back toghether? you can't do that with text based things
gentle grove
ok but how are you supposed to learn how to do something conceptually if you can...
wdym
you can look at the functions and the apis you're using
oh i see
well you can take things apart and put them back together though
vernal rapids
well..I'm a 3D Generalist and I'm self taught for rigging! so for rigging I can mess around in the program to see what each effect does in each option! I don't know my options when its just text
gentle grove
well..I'm a 3D Generalist and I'm self taught for rigging! so for rigging I can ...
i mean, that's what api documentation and compilers are for
api documentation is your friend
wooden yarrow
well..I'm a 3D Generalist and I'm self taught for rigging! so for rigging I can ...
I mean u still can u just need to supply it the proper context
gentle grove
api documentation is your friend
it tells you what you can do
pallid totem
wdym
like a person cant just use an unofficial library
https://pypi.org is not official
vernal rapids
ok but like...reading it does not equal a full understanding
I'm autistic
if I can't mess with it? then its not going to work
ok but even then! outside of copying what the book says to get a single prewritten thing working
how do you test it?
wheres your sandbox for making things?
gentle grove
ok but like...reading it does not equal a full understanding
but you can run and modify stuff
gentle grove
wheres your sandbox for making things?
my computer lmao
i run stuff on my computer
api documentation is like the datasheet
vernal rapids
in 3D I have an entire program to SEE what I'm doing and where things are plugged in!
you guys pull magic text out of your ass with a notepad and ✨it just works!✨
gentle grove
in 3D I have an entire program to SEE what I'm doing and where things are plugge...
it's just a different way of representing it
nodes can be written as text
theres a good chance your editor can do that
i dont pull the text out of my ass though, i have to read stuff to know what i can do
vernal rapids
this is the controls for a claw'd hand in a model I'm rigging! I can see how it connects and test things by moving the connections or browsing through the lists of nodes for options!
gentle grove
this is the controls for a claw'd hand in a model I'm rigging! I can see how it ...
i can test things by just typing new functions or new paramteres in my code
its the same exact thing
it just looks different
vernal rapids
its not the same though?
gentle grove
i need paper
vernal rapids
if I open up freakin notepad++ and want to do something? I'm screwed! theres no boxes to connect things! no import/export for objects! no string to connect them into the available connections! theres nothing to tell me what I can and cannot do or even where to start!
gentle grove
if I open up freakin notepad++ and want to do something? I'm screwed! theres no ...
there's api documentation, that's your list of available connections
it tells you every object and what you can do with it
imagine if i had a File node, it's https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/fs/struct.File.html
look at the left side, I see every "method" which is available
vernal rapids
like I want to remove the DL button and 3 dots from each song in my music list on my ipod in ios 15.8.3!
theres NOTHING I can do! I can't import the app into a notepad! I can't SEE in livetime what the changes are!
gentle grove
rust is a little nicer than manpages because its html
vernal rapids
and I couldn't figure that out either....
gentle grove
like I want to remove the DL button and 3 dots from each song in my music list o...
this is because you're talking about something closed source and undocumented
vernal rapids
like I showed you guys each language I tried to see if something would work
gentle grove
on linux i can literally take apart everything on my system
vernal rapids
I don't know how the hell you guys seemingly memorize and translate every part of this stuff into your brains