development

[acoustic imp]

Bash?

[pallid totem]

i like it or hate it at the same time

[reef trail]

what about it

[acoustic imp]

Thoughts? Both r scripting langs (I’m pretty sure)

[hasty ruin]

no one fucking uses bash scripts for actual shit

[pallid totem]

vouch

bash doesn’t have libraries

[fading shell]

Semaphorin:

[pallid totem]

python does

[reef trail]

i mean it kinda does

[reef trail]

they're used for different things

[acoustic imp]

tru

[reef trail]

can't really compare them

[pallid totem]

how

you can pull libraries from the web and use them without extra hassle?

[reef trail]

i didn't say it was easy

but you can

[fading shell]

hot take

[pallid totem]

you can

but

[fading shell]

executables are the libraries of bash

so yes

[pallid totem]

why

[reef trail]

yeah i was also thinking this

[pallid totem]

ok yea true

but no one likes bash

on a realistic note

🔥

[reef trail]

i've been using nushell recently and quite like it

[cloud yacht]

I have a couple I use for stuff but most of the time it's just this saved me typing 3 commands or something

[fading shell]

i read this as nutshell

[pallid totem]

mods

mods

snipe

@torn oriole

snipe

[reef trail]

that's called a ballsack

[pallid totem]

mods snipe 2 messages back

[gentle grove]

Python is awesome but it allows people to write shit code too easily

That's why people think it's bad

[next wadi]

fr

i love python

[torn oriole]

My entire computer science course in uni

[next wadi]

you and me both

bro even my teacher has weird ass practices

it makes me cringe a little

professor whatever

im a high schooler taking college courses sue me

[torn oriole]

Dude I flunked the course so hard because it's just sorting algorithms for some reason

Not what I was expecting at all

[gentle grove]

what was the class called

[torn oriole]

Introduction to computer science

[light owl]

?? wtf

is the whole class just sorting algorithms cause my intro to cs classes (in high school) were actually just learning how to code

[gentle grove]

AP CS A?

and CSP

are you in college

[light owl]

im not american idk what any of that means

But i dont have ap classes

[gentle grove]

oh right

[acoustic imp]

Haha I have that, it’s code.org :/

Boring and easy

[gentle grove]

huh? cs a is supposed to be the java one

csp was the code.org one i thought

[acoustic imp]

Oh wait I’m in principals

[gentle grove]

yeah

[acoustic imp]

Yea

Teacher has yet to put in nov 12th class work grades

[gentle grove]

can you make a tweak using c instead of objc

is c abi available for stuff you need

[indigo peak]

are you asking or telling

[gentle grove]

question

[indigo peak]

like are ylu able to make a tweak in c

or is that allowed for the project

[gentle grove]

is it possible

[indigo peak]

yah

[gentle grove]

not that im gonna do that, i would be doing something worse

thats based

ok so now i need a tweak idea

[native orbit]

make a tweak in haskell

[gentle grove]

Has a tweak been made in rust before

If it has then I'm not going to

But if its never been done then I want to do it as an exercise

Yeah I'm aware now it can be done but I wanna know if its already been done before

Because if it has been done before then I don't want to because that's not funny anymire

But if it hasn't then it'll be funny

why would they do that for just drm

that took me a moment to process because I kept reading it as direct rendering manager

Oh that's such a good idea

That's genius

[native orbit]

worse then swift?

[gentle grove]

oh and also gdb and lldb have issues with it for some reason

I tried lldb-ing bobashare for fun and fr v just locked for like 10 minutes, it used 30 GiB of ram and nothing happened

[native orbit]

lldb breaking on bin made using llvm fr

[gentle grove]

Yeah idk either

That one can't even be rust:s fault

[vivid dew]

anyone else here a developer

[gentle grove]

no

[cloud yacht]

I was trying to but it didn't work (it was not using mobilesubstraght)

[manic forum]

i woke up late

i'll solve day 5 later

[placid kraken]

good luck today was fun

[granite frigate]

(it was not fun)

[cloud yacht]

I was late to it and tbjh I don't even know how I solved part 2

(my solution has a do {} while(false) loop in it)

[reef trail]

i don't like the rest of the tooling around the language either, i find every time i ever touch python i get some weird env bug or package conflict etc

[reef trail]

someone has yes, i can remember who or what tho

their main reason was for drm lmao

[granite frigate]

uv solves a lot of it

like i know it sounds a lot like xkcd standards

it still is for ML lmao dependencies are so fucking annoying

[wooden yarrow]

need to keep making venvs

[granite frigate]

at least it doesnt default to system wide

it errors

[wooden yarrow]

yeah but what if i want system wide

[placid kraken]

its getting painfully difficult to make these solutions in elle

[sullen roost]

Is there any way to know the ios version from the kernel version?:}

[torn oriole]

If you can grab the kernel version there's a fair chance you can run sw_vers no?

[elder scaffold]

yes and no
grep kcache's img4 kbag or im4p hash
but, I think there are also ios versions with the same kernel version.

"Kernel version" is not enough.

ex) 9.3.3 and 9.3.4

The only kernel difference between 9.3.3 and 9.3.4 is one kext

[sullen roost]

Can someone show me how people find errors in bootloader,kernel,bootrom,..

[sullen roost]

Oh

Tysm:3

[sullen roost]

oh

Tysm:3 ( again )

[granite frigate]

there's an arg you can pass

[wooden yarrow]

hm

[granite frigate]

also also

uv can manage python versions for you

because for some godforsaken reason a lot of ML libraries only work on a specific python version

so you can just run a custom python+venv for specific projects

[sullen roost]

we have a uaf in ios 18 YAYY:} (I just found out lol )

[lyric cedar]

Guys Is there any docs for tweaks dev learning?

[sullen roost]

I remember I've seen it somewhere before

Let me find it again:}

[sullen roost]

@lyric cedar https://github.com/NightwindDev/Tweak-Tutorial

[radiant idol]

https://github.com/NightwindDev/Tweak-Tutorial

i was late lol

oh well

[sullen roost]

Idk:}

[sullen roost]

At the same time*

[radiant idol]

I suppose

[sullen roost]

Oh okie:}

Are there any bugs or exploits for ios 17,18 other than checkm8?:}

[granite frigate]

bro will never stop asking

[pallid totem]

does canister still not work

[[glance]]

oh my god

gir is so fucking shit holy shit

this is so unnecessary

time to fix gir

[pallid totem]

took me an hour to fix gir's stupid mistakes

ok dropdown doesn’t work
insane

[sullen roost]

idk

I'm just trying to find a bug in any ios

[elder scaffold]

My question is why you would want to add to the wiki something you don't know much about.

I think you should only write about what you know well.

(There is nothing wrong with asking questions about what you want to know.)

[sullen roost]

I know it might be wrong but I just want the wiki to be better

[elder scaffold]

How can i guarantee quality when adding something I don't know?

Basically, we should try to do it only after understand a lot

i think

this is just my opinion

[fading shell]

and not include build instructions in the wiki

[elder scaffold]

Basically, people who can tell when a wiki is wrong don't need a wiki.

[pallid totem]

@fading shell am i tweaking or is glance not recognized in canister

[fading shell]

it is

you need to select it in the picker

[pallid totem]

which one

[fading shell]

uhh

scroll down

[pallid totem]

ok hold on lemme fix this thing fisrt

[fading shell]

yeah can we please prioritize chariz over bigboss? chariz is much more likely to be up to date

[pallid totem]

it's not there

[pallid totem]

bet hold on

[hasty ruin]

[[jade]]

[fading shell]

that might be canister stuff though

[pallid totem]

its broken rn

[hasty ruin]

I think canister is still broken

[pallid totem]

no it's not canister

it's gir

[hasty ruin]

Oh

[pallid totem]

this is clearly jade

[hasty ruin]

I remember when canister just didn’t work with paid chariz tweaks

[pallid totem]

starting to think that canister is shit

[hasty ruin]

[pallid totem]

buy rune buy nexus

[pallid totem]

i think this is happening again

ok canister's genuinely broken

i can make a push request but

canister's just

broken

[cloud yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/true-successfully-deployed-get-this-man-a-true-true-morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-gif-17551062976351461149

[sullen roost]

[[fps]]

[[rune]]

Wth

[pallid totem]

it's broken

[lusty jacinth]

u sure?

rest of gir is fine

it's probably a canister issue

[pallid totem]

it's gir bro

i literally fixed it 😭

[lusty jacinth]

yeah ur probably right

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/dan_goosewin/status/1864691722384773448?t=sqoRVJFbJJoYmSOiGxWBcw&s=19

goosewin (@dan_goosewin) on X

this is what peak performance looks like

Twitter · Dec 5, 2024, 3:22 PM

[vivid dew]

posting this in the company slack to rapturous applause

[gentle grove]

This is why you use meson

[wooden yarrow]

me, changing one singular character after spending hours debugging

[gentle grove]

Me trying to start a project

[wooden yarrow]

frfr

[gentle grove]

I might actually try and follow through on the Wayland for iOS idea

but maybe after the video editor

[wooden yarrow]

a thousand lines may just be boilerplate but one line can be like a thousand lines

[wooden yarrow]

hm

nice

[gentle grove]

I need to do something for dev role

Do you have any easier ideas

[native orbit]

pay aaron $500

[gentle grove]

No I need real ideas

[pallid totem]

Step 1: Make a tweak

[fiery dragon]

Cement 2

[[cement]]

[faint lion]

Cement

Bricks A12+ devices jailbroken on 15.0+

Author

WhitetailAni

Version

1.1

Price

Free

Repo

Cerulean Systems

Bundle ID

lol.whitetailani.cement

Powered by Canister · Dec 6, 2024, 1:13 AM

[hollow oar]

Peak (?)

No workie though

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/memecrashes/status/1864710892719374745?t=meJs2gQaD_UPHLQC98EE0w&s=19

A meme page to check every time MatLab crashes (@memecrashes) on X

Twitter · Dec 5, 2024, 4:38 PM

[manic forum]

makefiles <3

cmake is weird i don't like it

[gentle grove]

you should see meson

I am the resident meson shill

its cmake but not shit

[native orbit]

makefiles are the best

[harsh junco]

GNU Makefiles are the best
Especially GNU Step ones

[gentle grove]

not if you have an actual entire application or library

[sullen roost]

How can people find bugs or Exploits?

[pallid totem]

they just

do

[sullen roost]

do do

Do do do do do do do od od ood do

[shrewd moth]

Hello developers

[pallid totem]

hello willy

[shrewd moth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/s/xg7k4t7zHe

is it just me finding this odd that this fellow learned tweak development 2 months ago?

[pallid totem]

it’s nothing

with enough dedication you can create a tweak in not even a week

probably even stable release too

[shrewd moth]

depends what tweak

this seems like a big project, for a beginner that's uhhh... very strange

and that's his second tweak

[pallid totem]

so what

[shrewd moth]

so it's weird

I have read his history he doesn't even have programming knowledge (he dropped after 1st year)

very very weird

[pallid totem]

self taught

ive been programming since i was 8 years old

i never took any lessons

[shrewd moth]

and how old are you now?

[pallid totem]

17

[shrewd moth]

so how is this relevant to this topic?

just wanted to flex?

[pallid totem]

?

no?

you can self teach urself

it’s not that hard

[radiant idol]

Meh I wouldn’t say it’s entirely unfathomable

[pallid totem]

once u get the hang of it your limits are… nothing

[shrewd moth]

you can, pulling this off in 2 months is unlikely

[pallid totem]

i mean with nowadays tools like AI, it can be achieved relatively easy

[radiant idol]

He’s active in the Theos server and asks a lot of questions

I fully believe he was able to do it

[radiant idol]

AI is mostly useless for tweak dev I’m not gonna lie

[pallid totem]

why do u think that

[shrewd moth]

this is hella impressive if he got that in this short amount of time, he added localization, UI, messing with daemons I think? That's some high level shit for 2 months..

[radiant idol]

I’ve tried using it when developing my own tweaks and it’s either just said stuff that was outright wrong or it would write code that “works” but is really bad

[pallid totem]

and when was this

[radiant idol]

Yeah I’m impressed too

[shrewd moth]

while I'm impressed I'm being suspicious that someone will walk into a half dead community spending his entire hours in day to only develop tweaks

[radiant idol]

Over time, from the start of ChatGPT up till now with Claude. Claude is a bit better but I still don’t really use AI as most of the time it’s just a waste of time that could be used to debug

[radiant idol]

Meh, some people have a passion really

[pallid totem]

“from the start of ChatGPT” you mean like 2-3 years ago? no wonder it was shit, models were really bad back then

[radiant idol]

I used to spend maybe 7 hours a day doing tweak dev, not anymore

[pallid totem]

and claude 3.5 sonnet is relatively nice if you have that

and if you’re rich, you can get o1 pro

it’ll help a lot

like a lot lot

[radiant idol]

I’m saying I’ve been using AI since the beginning

[shrewd moth]

it is blessed of course no complaints.. but a bit sus

[pallid totem]

it improved a LOT by now

[pallid totem]

how is it sus? his dedication is insane

[radiant idol]

i really don’t find it necessary and I think it’s a bad precedent to depend on AI for code

[shrewd moth]

I think I listed all the signals I'm reading

[pallid totem]

like what can u even find him suspicious for

[pallid totem]

that he started 2 months ago? so?

[pallid totem]

i vouch

as i said ai is only a tool and never for a full workspace

[radiant idol]

Dude are you reading what I’m texting 😭

I’ve used it since the beginning and I still use it occasionally but it’s been quite a waste of time every time I’ve been trying to use it

[shrewd moth]

he ain't reading

asking same questions all over again

[pallid totem]

i am reading

[radiant idol]

It’s not like I used AI back in the very beginning and never again

[pallid totem]

[radiant idol]

I used it on occasion every now and then but it’s just a waste of time for tweak dev really

[shrewd moth]

the small amount of time <> the quality of the tweaks (giving the fact he is spending time on localizations.. jailbreak archs) beginner with no programming knowledge (he wrote that himself) unlikely to pull this off

but I might be wrong

[radiant idol]

He did write Immortalizer which is open source

If you yearn you can take a look

[pallid totem]

i mean he did it

[shrewd moth]

yes

[pallid totem]

it’s impressive to say that he did it thats for sure

[shrewd moth]

The fact the code exists as an open source can't tell us anything about that dude

[pallid totem]

this is incredible dedication tho lol

[shrewd moth]

wanna hear my theory?

a dev coming back in a different name.. that's my guess

or a malicious actor trying to gain trust then nuke r/jb

[pallid totem]

thats just taking it too far

[shrewd moth]

maybe.. and maybe not

[pallid totem]

idk we’ll tell with time

[shrewd moth]

anyway.. will be interesting to watch. We might get an opa555 or southerngirlwhocodes

[fading shell]

fyi it took me like 4 months from first tweak to releasing Glance

[shrewd moth]

did you use shortlook code base?

[fading shell]

no

[shrewd moth]

at all?

[fading shell]

no

[shrewd moth]

it looks the same

[fading shell]

it's not even public

[shrewd moth]

anyway 4 months is double the time

[fading shell]

and even if

[shrewd moth]

which I can believe

[fading shell]

i spent a significant amount of that time making a private project

[shrewd moth]

he also developed another tweak on top of learning

so..

2 months is still a very short time

even if you add the fact he is unemployed

and you didn't add localization 🤣

I mean something here doesn't add up

but well what do I know..

[fading shell]

it is, but from his messages in the theos discord, you can really see how active he was developing the tweak

also his reddit account is over 5 years old

[shrewd moth]

yes that's definitely a point for him

I mean but if he releases iOS 18 jailbreak that will be susssss

lol

well I wish him all the best, the more devs - the better for us

[fading shell]

if i were to release an ios 18 jailbreak that'd be suspicious too

same with almost everyone here

except those that have a history of experimenting with exploits and jailbreaks

[shrewd moth]

yes but you didn't get the joke so nvm

[shrewd moth]

opa went from tweaks to a full pledged jailbreak though

[pallid totem]

misinfo

[shrewd moth]

how is that

[pallid totem]

opa isnt the onyl one that made dopamine

[shrewd moth]

he is the main/lead developer when did I ever say he is the only one

[fading shell]

he also did trollstore before dopamine

[slender glade]

Nothing it seems

[slender glade]

I learned AppKit and finished this entire app in 13 days https://github.com/NSAntoine/Samra

[shrewd moth]

do you have programming knowledge?

[slender glade]

Yes and this guy probably did too lol

[shrewd moth]

no he doesn't lol

he wrote that himself

[slender glade]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[shrewd moth]

exactly

[slender glade]

I don’t see why you think it’s impossible or sus

[shrewd moth]

I wrote why

[slender glade]

In 2 months what he made is very much possible

yeah well what you wrote doesn’t really make sense

[shrewd moth]

I didn't said it's impossible

just very unlikely

[slender glade]

But why would it be

Tweak development isn’t this super complicated thing too

%hook and %orig is all it is

[shrewd moth]

if you know programming

[shrewd moth]

no it's not lmao

[slender glade]

Yes it is

[shrewd moth]

you need to reverse first to get what you want

understand what to hook and when

[slender glade]

Yeah and someone probably recommended a header dump to him

Or FLEX

[shrewd moth]

learn a new language syntax

[slender glade]

This shit takes like 2 weeks from scratch

[shrewd moth]

ok

if you say so

[slender glade]

To polish it 2 years but to get something working 2 months isn’t really suspicious

[shrewd moth]

when you have prior knowledge I could agree

only to learn objective c you need 2-3 weeks BUT YOU NEED PRIOR KNOWLEDGE IN PROGRAMMING TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN 2-3 WEEKS

this dude started off 2 months ago and already published 2 tweaks one of them is talking to a daemon, have UI, localization, different jailbreak archs

I mean come on

either that's not 2 months, or he lied about his past experience

[fading shell]

different jailbreak arches (rootless / rootful) is only one command

[shrewd moth]

it's understanding what needs to be done

not the actual command

[fading shell]

rootless / rootful is really not that difficult

[shrewd moth]

no one said it is

but it's another thing to add to your learning stack

and 2 months containing all that sounds weird

without programming knowledge

[fading shell]

programming is not black magic

with the right approach that is definitely possible

[reef trail]

do you? i learned it in about a day from just messing around

and i don't have some super amazing back story in programming

[shrewd moth]

oh yes I wasn't talking about geniuses like you

[reef trail]

i mean i'm not

[shrewd moth]

you don't say

[reef trail]

???

[shrewd moth]

you learned objective c in one day dude

no one can beat you

[reef trail]

because it's not hard

[shrewd moth]

right right

I think you lack of understanding what learning a language is actually about

[reef trail]

i was about to say, we probably have different definitions

[shrewd moth]

the fact you know to call a method doesn't mean you learned the entire language

[reef trail]

right, i meant that i was confident in using the language

not that i know the most idiomatic ways to do things

that i still haven't done

[shrewd moth]

confident after a day is.. yea

[reef trail]

confident that i know what i need to do what i want

[shrewd moth]

if else

👍

[reef trail]

?

[fading shell]

objective c is just a superset of C

many concepts transfer

[shrewd moth]

not gonna argue an arrogant kid thinking he figured out a language in day, sry

[fading shell]

he was not trying to be arrogant, he was saying that you don't need to know every little quirk of the language to make something with it

[shrewd moth]

learning how to call methods or how to write if/else is basically nothing

[reef trail]

exactly

so being able to use a language requires hardly any learning

[fading shell]

and yet it's almost everything you need to make a tweak

[shrewd moth]

I wouldn't even call that learning a language

[reef trail]

neither would i, but it's all you need to be able to make a tweak

so you've learnt enough to make it

[shrewd moth]

yea that, and

[reef trail]

and what

[shrewd moth]

^

if else hook orig
Guys I'm a tweak developer!!!!

[reef trail]

yeah

pretty much

it's not difficult

[shrewd moth]

again it depends what tweaks

UI is not if else

[reef trail]

ofc

it's also not hard, uikit was extremely easy to pick up

[slender glade]

This is literally what most tweaks r doing

[reef trail]

fr

[slender glade]

Finding a class isn’t so hard either

[reef trail]

that only hard part about tweak dev is the RE, but that's also not that difficult in most cases

[slender glade]

guys this field isn’t hard lol

we’re not doing rocket science

[reef trail]

indeed

[fading shell]

^

[hasty ruin]

Hardest part is putting up with apple’s bs

They randomly decided to change what the values represent in 17

[reef trail]

that's stupid

[hasty ruin]

And they randomly call this method with math.huge instead of the normal 0-2 values

[shrewd moth]

sry fams, learning how to RE, language syntax, how daemons work, support localization and jailbreak archs, may not be hard, but definitely time consuming. All I say is that 2 months is way too little.

[reef trail]

wdym by jailbreak archs? arm and arm64?

i haven't needed to learn how they work other than that arm has / as it's root path and arm64 has /var/jb

[sullen roost]

How can people find bugs or Exploits?

Idk real

[elder scaffold]

research and find

etc

[wooden yarrow]

protip for socks after laundry: if you leave them all separated, then every time you want to lookup (find) a pair of socks, it takes you O(N^2) operations where N is the number of individual socks you have, but if you do the preprocessing of pairing up each sock with O(N^2) operations one time, you can now look up the socks you want in O(N) time (where N is the number of pairs) or even O(1) if you want to get any random pair of socks!

[reef trail]

but the drying time increases as the surface area of each sock is less

[wooden yarrow]

what why would you pair up each sock before drying

obv leave them separated before drying

[reef trail]

but then you have to go through the O(n^2) process still

[wooden yarrow]

the point is preprocessing of all socks you have

such that it reduces the number of operations after that step

instead of doing O(N^2) every time

[fading shell]

sir this is the dryer, just pick two socks

pro tip just make all your socks be the same so you can just pick two socks

two random socks

[wooden yarrow]

yall pick them out straight outta the dryer or sumn ??

[reef trail]

no

[fading shell]

yes

[wooden yarrow]

if only

[wooden yarrow]

bro is insane

[reef trail]

i don't have a dryer

take all socks out of washing machine, put all socks on radiator, once socks dried pair them all up and put unpaired in a bag

[wooden yarrow]

yes this is the preprocessing part

[fading shell]

no, just lazy

[wooden yarrow]

and also that

[reef trail]

the better solution is to not conform to societal norms and just wear odd socks

[fading shell]

wear*

[reef trail]

i did the swipe to type thing

[wooden yarrow]

ok but then you could just wear absolutely nothing outside too

for the fastest possible operation

[reef trail]

nah then i'd be cold

[wooden yarrow]

do you, yourself not get uncomfortable with odd socks ⁉️

i doubt anyone notices odd socks anyways unless they're like way different colors

[reef trail]

all my socks are either black or white

as long as they're both the same colour idrc

and size

cos like trainer socks + thick socks feels awful

[cloud yacht]

You underestimate the power of someone who spends there entire free time on a project.

[shrewd moth]

I guess that's a valid thought

because I don't have this amount of free time I probably don't know what someone could actually make when investing all their waking hours into one thing

[hollow oar]

I spent 6 hours compiling something from source only for it to errors out at 98%

[cloud yacht]

good thing incremental compiling exists

[gentle grove]

Maybe they're part of the makefile elitist club, especially the club that don't actually know how to make a makefile correctly to have incremental compiling

I still need a tweak idea

[gentle grove]

My socks are all interchangable

There are 2 colors

it takes a maximum of 3 chooses to get a pair

[wooden yarrow]

you only have 4 socks?

[gentle grove]

I have two colors of socks

all socks of the same color are identical

[wooden yarrow]

yeah but the worst case is you finding every other-colored sock before you reach the last one that's correct

[gentle grove]

any group of 3 socks has one pair of the same color

Therefore I pick the pair

[wooden yarrow]

oh you just switch the color you use

ok

[hollow oar]

Port Androbar

[gentle grove]

They're a manufacturer based in quebec

Ah

Its a liquor dispensing system and POS

[hollow oar]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/pk3l97/update_androbar_20_a_featurepacked_navigation_bar/

[gentle grove]

That was not on google

[gentle grove]

It seems to already exist then?

[hollow oar]

Not for 15.x and 16.x

Only works on 14.x

[gentle grove]

https://vxtwitter.com/luciascarlet/status/1865043171324932271?t=q-P8I_72dXIcHto9RWO3Tg&s=19

[clear iron]

i want this so bad

[hollow oar]

Real

[harsh junco]

.

[acoustic imp]

.

[hollow oar]

.

[austere pollen]

does anybody know where iOS stores the private WiFi address in var

[acoustic imp]

Uhhh private WiFi address ? Like MAC address ?

[fiery dragon]

I think they mean a local IP address

[gentle grove]

im sure they mean the temporary mac address

[fiery dragon]

okay

[acoustic imp]

This I think

[gentle grove]

yep

[gentle grove]

how often does it rotate

[acoustic imp]

No clue tbh

[torn oriole]

Two weeks

[wintry zenith]

Moving to here just in case

Where would I find a good disassembler so I can make some patches to restored_external

Trying to use seprmvr64v2, although I probably don’t know shit

[wintry zenith]

Found one

[gentle grove]

whatd you find

ida?

[wintry zenith]

Yeah

[placid kraken]

@manic forum

[gentle grove]

you guys are already on 7?

i need to get working

[manic forum]

i saw

you're fast

[manic forum]

How did you solve it?

I just brute forced it, I'm not sure if there's a better solution

or rather a solution that takes less time to implement

[placid kraken]

idk mine takes 10 seconds

||```py
from itertools import product

def match(t, ns):
n = len(ns) - 1
for ops in product(["+", ""], repeat=n):
res = ns[0]
for i in range(n):
if ops[i] == "+":
res += ns[i + 1]
elif ops[i] == "":
res *= ns[i + 1]
if res == t:
return True
return False

def match2(t, ns):
n = len(ns) - 1
for ops in product(["+", "", "DOUBLE PIPE"], repeat=n):
res = ns[0]
for i in range(n):
if ops[i] == "+":
res += ns[i + 1]
elif ops[i] == "":
res *= ns[i + 1]
elif ops[i] == "DOUBLE PIPE":
res = int(f"{res}{ns[i + 1]}")
if res == t:
return True
return False

def s1(d):
c = 0
for l in d:
t, ns = l.split(": ")
t = int(t)
ns = list(map(int, ns.split()))
if match(t, ns):
c += t
return c

def s2(d):
c = 0
for l in d:
t, ns = l.split(": ")
t = int(t)
ns = list(map(int, ns.split()))
if match2(t, ns):
c += t
return c

with open("input.txt") as f:
contents = f.readlines()
print(s1(contents))
print(s2(contents))

[manic forum]

oh

i should try python sometime

itertools looks nice

[placid kraken]

what are you doing it in

[manic forum]

javascript

[placid kraken]

ah

[manic forum]

maybe i'll try python tomorrow

[reef trail]

i haven't started aoc this year but doing it in rust was the best

their parsing tools are amazing

[gentle grove]

hmm how so

[reef trail]

i just enjoyed having all of the little helpful methods on String and the iterators

[gentle grove]

you should learn haskell

[reef trail]

hmm

maybe at some point

i need to learn go properly first

[gentle grove]

is there even a properly learning go

they just want you to just go write stuff

no care

[reef trail]

what

[wooden yarrow]

just go write stuff

[placid kraken]

have you seen python

[wooden yarrow]

yeah rust goated

[reef trail]

i hate python

[placid kraken]

it’s literally made for this kind of thing

[reef trail]

it's also made to be overly abstracted and the solution to everything is import a module

[gentle grove]

rugmj is dumb and doesn't like languages that are fit for the domain

[gentle grove]

That's exactly why its good

[reef trail]

no i just hate python

it's the only language i have prejudice towards

[gentle grove]

you usuallt don't want to worry about memory when doing golf/CTF/aoc

[reef trail]

sure but i also don't think about memory much when writing rust

obviously a little bit but it doesn't hinder me

[gentle grove]

it inherently makes you care about details that aren't really important when you're trying to do algorithm work

[granite frigate]

that's the whole point

if you want to do the logic part of code then it's really useful

[reef trail]

i think my main issue with it is that its recommended to people new to programming, they become reliant on just importing some random library and calling a setup method

i wont lie i havent properly sat down and used python other than the random script

[slate bobcat]

Good morning

[slim bramble]

Good morning

[kind herald]

Good morning

[acoustic imp]

Good morning

[harsh junco]

Good morning

[reef trail]

kanye ahh thread

[light quiver]

/* set the image on the display */
static int do_setpict(int argc, struct cmd_arg *args)
{
    struct image_info *image;
    int update = 0;
    int blank = 1;
    int restore = 0;
    int result;
    addr_t addr = DEFAULT_LOAD_ADDRESS;
    size_t size;

    size = env_get_uint("filesize", 0x00100000);

#if !RELEASE_BUILD
    if (argc < 2) {
        printf("wrong number of args.\n");
        printf("%s optbitmask [<addr> [<size>]]\n", args[0].str);
        printf("optbitmask:\n");
        printf("   0x01 = update the image on screen\n");
        printf("   0x02 = don't clear previous images\n");
        printf("   0x04 = restore mode image\n");
        return -1;
    }

        addr = env_get_uint("loadaddr", addr);
        
    update = (args[1].u & 1) != 0;
    blank = (args[1].u & 2) == 0;
        if (argc >= 3)
                addr = args[2].u;
        if (argc >= 4)
                size = args[3].u;
#endif

    if (argc >= 2) {
        restore = (args[1].u & 4) != 0;
    }

    if (size > 0x00100000) {
        printf("picture too large, size:%zu\n", size);
        return -1;
    }

    if (!security_allow_memory((void *)addr, size)) {
        printf("Permission Denied\n");
        return -1;
    }

    image = image_create_from_memory((void *)addr, size, 0);
    if (image == 0) {
        printf("Memory image corrupt\n");
        return -1;
    }
    
    if (blank) {
        result = paint_set_picture(0);
    }

    result = paint_set_picture(image);

    // If this is a restore image, color remapping will have been disabled
    // when we dropped into recovery mode. Make sure the color remapping is
    // set to the policy desired by the device.
    if (restore) {
        paint_color_map_enable(paint_color_map_is_desired());
    }
    
    if ((update != 0) && (result == 0)) result = paint_update_image();
    
    return result;
}

setpicture command

[austere pollen]

I did mean this

I’m trying to see if it’s possible to modify the private MAC using sharesheet exploit+sparserestore

Since we pretty much have var read/write with it

[placid kraken]

no bestie i know how to program

in what world would i be 1st on my school leaderboard and the vencord leaderboard using a language like rust (or if i didnt already know how to program)

sure its good for performance and control

but python lets you write code that does what you want very very fast

[acoustic imp]

Why?

[reef trail]

not what i was trying to say, i don't like python when it's being used in an actual project, especially something which could benefit from some optimisations like home assistant for example

i use aoc as a way for me to learn new languages cos it requires you to use various elements of a language

[acoustic imp]

Any Mac app suggestions or settings change suggestions for new Mac user ?

[hasty ruin]

touch ~/.16player_installed to prevent future infections

[acoustic imp]

why is system using all this CPU, the whole system feels so slow?

any way to see if the cpu is throttleing

[acoustic imp]

nvm

@visual meadow any like pro tips for new mac user?

[visual meadow]

I use ellekit on my mac and stuff

[viscid blaze]

intsall asahi linux

[visual meadow]

I would do this but it doesnt work on m3

I do have this tho

[viscid blaze]

i still got my 3 year old m1

[visual meadow]

I have a screen-less m1 pro too

Thats on asahi

16gb ram and 4tb storage

[viscid blaze]

WHAT 4TB

upgrade or bought from apple ?

[visual meadow]

It was only 500 dollars on ebay

Idk bro

[viscid blaze]

WHATTTT

500

oh wait screenless

yeah yeah

[visual meadow]

I'm just using it as a server computer

[viscid blaze]

nice work

[visual meadow]

Its running an mc server

Modded

[viscid blaze]

nice port forwarded ?

[visual meadow]

Ye but its for close friends

[viscid blaze]

nice

[pallid totem]

hm

[acoustic imp]

i want mac os, for the ecosystem n suff

how do i sideload ipa's like uYou sideloadly?

It’s says integrity thing

[faint timber]

extreme skill issue

[visual meadow]

Personally I turn literally everything off, sip, amfi, etc

Then patch installd (its called appinstalld on macos), and install an adhoc signed app

(If its not adhoc signed, or any kind of signed, sandbox init will fail)

I couldnt figure out how to patch sandbox daemon or whatever

Also for youtube you need to stub out a missing symbol for it to work on macos

[acoustic imp]

Jeez, ok il try to figure it out thx

[acoustic imp]

What symbol ?

/how .

[austere pollen]

I’d like to spoof my MAC address

Considering the OS can’t write to SSV protected areas after restore, logically the private MAC for each network has to be stored in a modifiable partition like var

[acoustic imp]

just turn on then of the randomize mac addres, that will change it

[visual meadow]

I can help later if you want

[acoustic imp]

i got amfi off, i jus dk how/what symbol to add, thx if u can

[acoustic imp]

is i this ?

[visual meadow]

No

[austere pollen]

I mean I want to manually choose the MAC it spoofs to

[visual meadow]

Its some Picture in Picture symbol

[austere pollen]

If I can find the file I can just set random MAC to fixed

[visual meadow]

Meant to reply

[austere pollen]

Then export the file with sharesheet and replace with sparserestore

[visual meadow]

_ _

[acoustic imp]

also any way to bypass this ? tried DLing ebay

[austere pollen]

I’ve never seen this

Is this a new security thing for people in permissive boot mode

[acoustic imp]

permissive ?

anyone have issues with firfox like being supeer slow and not loding new tab pages and stuff?

tried uninstalling but its still doing it

Like it just does this

[hasty ruin]

what mac is it

[kind herald]

16player infected mac

[timid furnace]

decrypt the app

[acoustic imp]

m1 air

i cant find anything online

[acoustic imp]

then how do i install it i get this?

then if u used sidelodly it just crashes on launch

[timid furnace]

sign it

[timid furnace]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

look at crash report

[acoustic imp]

idk wha id do?

[acoustic imp]

i tried disbale amfi and use adhoc and tried apple id

[torn oriole]

FairPlay moment

Reduced security borks it

[acoustic imp]

did u modify the root.plist or the root vc.m file ?

[acoustic imp]

mac os makes me wana kms

[visual meadow]

@acoustic imp i can show you how later

I know how to get the apps to install and stuff

[acoustic imp]

k

how much later?

[visual meadow]

When i get home i was at the trans-siberian orchestra concert

[keen girder]

How do I make SwiftUI apps with theos for iOS 17.5

I’ve made the template and I did a test compile and it makes an .deb I want an .ipa is there any config I need to change

I’m on mint Wilma btw

[acoustic imp]

nice, 👍

[visual meadow]

I'm home I'll let you know when i can help

[austere pollen]

have you installed asahi Linux or anything similar

[acoustic imp]

no

[acoustic imp]

ok il jus be watching suits lol

[austere pollen]

If you’re just using official macOS then there’s no hurt in booting recovery and setting security to full

It might fix your issue

[visual meadow]

It will but no sideloading apps with any entitlements

[manic forum]

@placid kraken how was it

it took me a while to understand the task at first

[placid kraken]

i took 19 mins for part 1 and 2 mins for part 2

should sum it up i think

no more 2d array problems i beg

[manic forum]

we didn't even get to the 5d problems yet

[placid kraken]

..what

[manic forum]

i spent too much time on part 2 after part 1 because ||i didn't realize the antennas also produced antinodes at their own positions||

[placid kraken]

oh lol

[kind herald]

Wtf

I can't even spoiler my messages here

☹️

[manic forum]

become developer to get spoiler privileges 👍

[gentle grove]

I need a decent tweak idea first

[vivid dew]

make a tweak to fix nitm on ios lower than 17

[gentle grove]

What is nitm

[vivid dew]

nuts in thine mouth

[gentle grove]

die

@grave sparrow I need tweak idea to get dev role

OK that one actually sounds pretty good

Will you kill me if I try writing it in rust

just for funny

Are there guides on tweak stuff, and also how you see iOS code

like to find stuff

what do you even do

oh right

I have cutter

I have ida but not sure if its a virus

The Linux version isn't signed or anything

Maybe I can run it in bwrap

[acoustic imp]

re implement the HS

[gentle grove]

Oh so capt gave me the silly task

you give to the intern the impossible task

do you guys use ida

[gentle grove]

I'll reimplement it with Wayland

what tf is Hopper

Does anyone use cutter/rizin + ghidra

[acoustic imp]

ida 9 leak thing

[gentle grove]

Is ida70 similar

is there anything on how you set up a good dev environment for stuff

Can you interactively debug stuff on ios

can I attach springboard in lldb

[gentle grove]

Does it need to be iOS 16

I can only test stuff on 15.2

[placid kraken]

i did day 8 in < 7ms for both parts in elle

[gentle grove]

Yeah so this is why I use linux

you don't have to reverse engineer anything

its all open source

same with android

If I wanna know how something works I can just look

no ida required

[cold basin]

where are all system calls (syscalls) recorded?

[sonic totem]

https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/xnu/blob/8d741a5de7ff4191bf97d57b9f54c2f6d4a15585/bsd/kern/syscalls.master

[cold basin]

?

[cold basin]

do you know how to clean exylopt
structures
with logs through the kernel?

[sonic totem]

That’s a list of all syscalls

[sonic totem]

I don’t really understand what you mean

[cold basin]

is there a way to clear the system call log?

[sonic totem]

Which log are you talking about?

[cold basin]

the log where all system calls are stored is recorded

[sonic totem]

Yeah I’m not sure what you’re talking about, sorry

[orchid fulcrum]

does anyone know how to use https://github.com/osy/AMFIExemption ? is this setup correct

[acoustic imp]

can i just inject regular Iphone tweak dylibs into M1 mac simulator ?

[severe stream]

com.* would be better ig, also this would likely need to be done in Info.plist of the kext

[reef trail]

tryitandsee

[acoustic imp]

it did not

well alr compiled now im trying targeting sim

[placid kraken]

technically this is polymorphism i believe

use std/io;

struct Animal<T> { T kind; };

fn Animal::new<T>(T kind) {
    Animal<T> *animal = malloc(#size(Animal<T>));
    *animal = malloc(#size(Animal<T>));

    animal.kind = kind;
    return animal;
}

fn Animal::speak<T>(Animal<T> self) {
    self.kind.speak();
}

struct Cat { i32 _; };
struct Dog { i32 _; };

fn Cat::speak(Cat self) {
    io::println("にゃ");
}

fn Dog::speak(Dog self) {
    io::println("ワン");
}

fn main() {
    Animal<Cat> *cat = Animal::new(Cat { _ = 0 });
    Animal<Dog> *dog = Animal::new(Dog { _ = 0 });
    // Animal<i32> *invalid = Animal::new(1);

    cat.speak(); // にゃ
    dog.speak(); // ワン
    // invalid.speak(); // Function named 'i32::speak' has an unknown interface.
}
``` mildly cursed but oh well

[tepid olive]

is there a guide about making a jailed tweak without theos-jailed

[reef trail]

why don't you want to use theos-jailed

and you can just inject the dylib into the ipa manually if you want

[tepid olive]

because i don’t want to

[reef trail]

[tepid olive]

how do i do this on iOS?

i see some jailed tweaks do this

[reef trail]

hmm?

[reef trail]

i think feather can do it, if you have a cert obviously

[torn oriole]

"I don't want to use the thing that specifically is designed for helping me do the thing I want to"

[reef trail]

fr

guys i want to jailbreak

but i don't want to use dopamine or palera1n

and i'm on ios 16

[torn oriole]

You forgot roothide because that exists for some reason

[tepid olive]

checkra1n

[reef trail]

ios 16

[tepid olive]

checkra1n.

[reef trail]

isn't it a fork of dopamine tho

[torn oriole]

It is

[gentle grove]

yeah the kind.speak() part I think is

Idk

[gentle grove]

god please don't buy an 'Italian', used, supercar

1. because they're a German owned company and they use a lot of VW parts

thank god its not pure blooded Italian because otherwise the doors would be falling off before you could buy it

Idk I wouldn't buy any actual supercar unless I had like 100x the money to buy it

because supercars suck

maybe 10x if I was feeling it

yeah but I am factoring in the maintenance, risk, and hassle

wdym

Not to me

I'd buy a Honda supercar

they do now

Or toyota

I'd buy a Toyota supercar if they get their shit together

they dropped the ball on the ToyMW and the Subyota

yeah

Toyota did it once

They should do it again

tell me the difference between Lexus and Toyota

its literally just a brand name

Its a little different between corvette and chevy

they do different stuff

you can't find a Chevy that's identical to the corvette

[placid kraken]

@manic forum todays one SUCKED

i spent 35m for p1 and 5m for p2

[indigo peak]

hey all, i made a simple webpage that displays the hex value for the standard uicolor colors systemBlueColor, systemBackgroundColor, systemRedColor, etc. you can find the actual site here at https://colors.dfiore.xyz

and for anyone interested source code: https://github.com/donato-fiore/UIColorLibrary

[granite frigate]

thanks goat luv u

[pallid totem]

oh thats really cool thank you

[visual meadow]

goat

[placid kraken]

use std/io;

fn i32::times(i32 self, fn *cb) {
    for i32 i = 0; i < self; i += 1 {
        cb(i);
    }
}

fn main() {
    4.times(fn(i32 i) -> io::printf("I got too silly {} times today", i));
}

[orchid fulcrum]

Nice

[wooden yarrow]

you can't specify parameter type and returns and stuff for func ptr?

[placid kraken]

not yet no

[wooden yarrow]

hm

[placid kraken]

currently functions are called with arbitrary defs

the IR lets you do a call instruction on any arbitrary pointer and will arg fault if it’s not a function

so you just have an fn* and you call it with the things you want

then the person supplying the function is expected to take the arguments if any

[gentle grove]

No orphan rule 🔥

[placid kraken]

whats the orphan rule

oh i see

that’s because in elle all modules/imports are also compiled along with the main file so it has to work like that by design

the import system takes the module, lexer & parses it, then just adds the nodes directly into the root tree in the right place

i could totally define the orphan rule to exist but that’s no fun

[wooden yarrow]

https://vxtwitter.com/whitetailani/status/1864015734000509001 child left behind

[pearl sail]

Bush Failed

[pearl sail]

He also left all those children behind

[pallid totem]

what language is this

how bored are you

to making ur own language

[pallid totem]

no child left behind

[torn oriole]

"Child" left behind

[slim bramble]

icraze left behind

[wooden yarrow]

yeah true

[indigo peak]

@placid kraken you’re the uicolor person, and suggestions

considering

[acoustic imp]

is this bad?

i have a few hidden to

[gentle grove]

child left behind

[gentle grove]

I think so

[acoustic imp]

oh.

il just hide more of them

[gentle grove]

How do you have so many programs

[acoustic imp]

idk i us watched thoes like top 100 mac apps video

DLed what i liked

i jus got a mac btw, so im learning

WindoServer?

[gentle grove]

that's crazy

what are they all 😭

I don't think I even have that many actual apps

let alone background daemons

are you speed running to replicate Intel mac battery life

[acoustic imp]

M1 air

oh 😭

i have like 2 launchpad pages full

• like 3 more apps

with sys apps ina folder

[slim bramble]

You had your MacBook for 2 days

And you already installed boilerplate

😭

[acoustic imp]

installing more now

script kiding rn actully

[gentle grove]

you're making windows look debloated

[acoustic imp]

u guys jus use macOS stock ❓

i couldnt

[radiant idol]

I mean more or less yeah

[acoustic imp]

crazy

imo

the cmd, option, control, fn keys are honestly the worst

coming from windows

[acoustic imp]

@grave sparrow is this bad?

[cursive lion]

Switch out HiddenBar to Ice and AlDente to Battery Toolkit, VLC to iina. Think those would be only suggestions

[acoustic imp]

no just like all of them, bc its also inconsistant, which is so anoying

[acoustic imp]

thoes work fine, is there somthing inharently wrong?

in term its dif

sorta

[gentle grove]

I don't use macos

But on my Mac I only had like 3 or 4 menubar items

[acoustic imp]

it rly hard coming from windows, bc the action a split accross all three, and mixed up 😭

[cloud yacht]

I forgot my laptop at home for today and was using my mac and man macos is not my cup of tea

[acoustic imp]

i could jus hidde em all

[gentle grove]

I can't believe I tolerated macos for 5 years

[acoustic imp]

exactly, thats y i bloat

[acoustic imp]

see lol

[cloud yacht]

cmd is annoying cause my external keyboard requires me to use the windows key to do things but then the same keyboard on my laptop i need to use ctrl

[cursive lion]

HiddenBar hasn't seen updates in ages, becomes unresponsive at times on macOS 15. Others just personal suggestions, nothing inherently wrong with your choices

[gentle grove]

cmd is annoying because its different for not really any gain

[acoustic imp]

HB been working fien for me 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic imp]

exactly, like what the point of the key anyway if u alr have a control key???

[radiant idol]

https://github.com/Mortennn/Dozer

this one's not too bad

[acoustic imp]

eh to lazy now

it works

[gentle grove]

its great because then I have win empty to use for all window management keybinds

[cloud yacht]

to be fair it's nice for temrinal to have all my ctrls work as excpected but my system keybinds like paste to also work as expected

[slim bramble]

I mean yeah you use zefram malware

[slim bramble]

🙄

[acoustic imp]

any way to bypass these on FF ?

like just for this

nvm

[acoustic imp]

Worst feature ever, omfg

thought i was going schizophrenic

[gentle grove]

Cancel

[acoustic imp]

no, i meant like just always allow them to open, but chatGPT to the rescue

Curently making shortcuts to arrange windows

have yet to find an app the does it the way i like

[pallid totem]

my favorite people got macs now and now doing proper tweak dev :/

[hasty ruin]

going?

[pallid totem]

(jk)

[pallid totem]

hi icraze

[hasty ruin]

Gm

[frank fossil]

guys I did something illegal

[acoustic imp]

yes

[hasty ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688124600269144162/1315849663550849064/7a6de889-8eaa-43dd-bf5c-0c68bf918147.jpeg?ex=6758e7ff&is=6757967f&hm=c2f00cbcfe69f53b31e7f3b509eb34807c6fbc3124e482dfaf5fde7335c7a84e&

[kind herald]

16player users

[acoustic imp]

Your Apple TV seems to be experiencing problems, you can reset all settings and accounts by selecting Reset All Settings

~~that poor XS max ~~

[pallid totem]

??? bro what

what did u do

side effect of installing 16player /j

[acoustic imp]

can see why so many left comunity :/

[kind herald]

Because 16player was so bad

[pallid totem]

@thin valley is 16player hate tolerated

[thin valley]

You really pinged me for that?

[pallid totem]

it was a question

[thin valley]

Figure it out

[kind herald]

Hi rick

[pallid totem]

yes?

[thin valley]

If it doesn’t break a rule and isn’t misinformation I can’t control what you say

[pallid totem]

[hasty ruin]

in that case

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1032390076900053043/1313662316679532544/togif.gif

[frank fossil]

can anyone send me 16.5 ATV mobilegestalt

[gentle grove]

bobashare

[acoustic imp]

GL, probly wana talk to the one guy or misaka ppl

[manic forum]

@placid kraken funny story

i solved part 2 before part 1

my part 2 solution involved pressing ctrl-z several times and running the code again

[placid kraken]

😭

i slightly changed my p1 solution for p2

apparently i wioulve been fucking 3rd on the leaderboard today if there wasnt ai

because i got top 103 for part 2 and i beat most of the pros

but its all ai

[manic forum]

nice

ai is a big issue this year

[placid kraken]

yeah 😔

[manic forum]

also i guess i'm a i barely made it to top 1000 in part 2

[acoustic imp]

Leatcode?

[gentle grove]

advent of code

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1266535437967691826/1312430273174048879/togif.gif

[harsh junco]

how

[frank fossil]

I trolled kernel to mount my volume over rootfs

[harsh junco]

ios <15?

[frank fossil]

iOS 16 arm64e

It goes like this

[harsh junco]

wtf
Bind mount?
Wtf

[frank fossil]

Well bind mount works if you steal kernel or launchd ucred

But it’s broken cause it makes certain parts readonly

So I mounted real volumes instead

[pallid totem]

what does real mean

[stray viper]

Rootful iOS 15+ soon?

[pallid totem]

palera1n

[stray viper]

Arm64e

[pallid totem]

no