development

[indigo peak]

first tweak I ever made

I coded it on my phone

During school

At lunch

[hasty ruin]

[indigo peak]

I wish I was joking

[primal perch]

[indigo peak]

I had 4 spaces in my clipboard so I can easily “tab”

[hasty ruin]

[high citrus]

Wanna see bad code? Look at one of my first projects (2019).
It isn’t a tweak, but that shouldn’t matter.
https://github.com/semvis123/tic-tac-toe-ai/blob/master/scripts/main.js

[ocean raptor]

Want to see bad code? https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/netctl/tree/main/airdrop

And https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/netctl/tree/main/wifi

[hasty ruin]

less repeated code than hyperixa

[naive kraken]

considering MobileCydia.mm exists, I think y'all are worrying way too much

[hasty ruin]

isnt that like 11k lines

[ocean raptor]

You ever look at ldid.cpp 🙂

[hasty ruin]

only 3.6k

[naive kraken]

when eta procursus codesign reimplementation

[hasty ruin]

[ocean raptor]

What is this??

[hasty ruin]

top 3 are in ldid.cpp

bottom 3 are in MobileCydia.mm

[ocean raptor]

Waiting for @amber bone 🥺

[naive kraken]

wtf is a webkit framework

[ocean raptor]

What do you think cydia is?

It's 75% WebKit

25% libapt

[amber bone]

What are you all doing on here?? You are supposed to be having awkward and scaring conversations with family

[hasty ruin]

another ~10 hours until that

[ocean raptor]

I don't do Christmas

And you aren't allowed to either until ipsw gets codesigning

[amber bone]

😔 yessir

[indigo peak]

they just left

thank god

i dont want to awkwardly ask them "do you know what a cydia is"

[ocean raptor]

Why would you

[hasty ruin]

"who are you going to vote for after the next tory scandal"

[restive ether]

plan ahead

after the 5th future Tory scandal*

[hasty ruin]

So… in February?

[restive ether]

aiming for late January early February

I think we can manage that

[hasty ruin]

100% yeah

[indigo peak]

@ocean raptor is there anything possible that could be configured wrong in the github actions for ldid

[ocean raptor]

?

What

[indigo peak]

because when i download the ldid_linux_x86_64 version, capts changes just dont exist

but when i downloaded ldid_w64_x86_64, the changes were there

[ocean raptor]

Did you download the correct artifact

[indigo peak]

yes

[restive ether]

n

[indigo peak]

wait

wtf

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/ldid/actions/runs/3775817605

[indigo peak]

i deleted ldid from the directory

and when i run ./ldid

it still shows up as a executable

[restive ether]

did you start a new terminal session

[indigo peak]

yes

-rw-r--r-- 1 fiore fiore 58365907 Dec 25 20:58 GamePigeon.ipa
-rw-r--r-- 1 fiore fiore 58962905 Dec 25 21:08 GameSeagull.ipa
-rwxr-xr-x 1 fiore fiore     3489 Dec 25 20:46 MobileProvision.py
-rw-r--r-- 1 fiore fiore     1376 Dec 25 20:46 PlistBuddy.py
-rwxr-xr-x 1 fiore fiore     7298 Dec 25 20:48 captappsign-ldid
-rwxr-xr-x 1 fiore fiore    13492 Dec 18 14:54 fiore.mobileprovision
-rwxr-xr-x 1 fiore fiore     5501 Dec 25 12:43 fiore.p12
-rwxr-xr-x 1 fiore fiore     1243 Dec 25 20:46 fiore.plist
-rw-r--r-- 1 fiore fiore      350 Dec 25 20:46 p.plist

like im not tripping

theres no ldid file there

i removed the dir and remade it

idk what was up w it

[tepid olive]

Did this work?

[timid furnace]

Thoughts on hardcoding rootful/rootless paths at compile time vs dynamic detection at runtime?

[tepid olive]

What’s the difference

[timid furnace]

Given that there has to be separate rootful and rootless packages anyway, I'm not sure which is the better option

I guess dynamic detection would be better in the sense that you could do --instdir to install the rootful build and have things still work

So I guess xinaa15 compatibility

[tepid olive]

What’s this for tho

Sorry if I ask a lot of dum questions I only know very basic like pre-k level stuff 😂

[timid furnace]

does dyld have a problem with it though

well uh

idk what i could do about that

great

that doesn't really answer my question though

currently my use case is solely calling my helper tool

but like

i would also like the proper solution while i'm at it

but is it better to do it compile time or runtime, since you already need separate rootless packages

(context: i've raped theos enough to make rootless packaging very easy)

export GLOBAL_CFLAGS := -fobjc-arc -DTEST=1 -DGLOBAL_INSTALL_PREFIX=\"$(GLOBAL_INSTALL_PREFIX)\"

where GLOBAL_INSTALL_PREFIX=/var/jb if rootless

like, on one hand, you wouldn't be able to use your rootful package on rootless as easily
on the other hand, who the fuck is going to do that, and i currently do not want to acknowledge xinaa15's implementation

i ended up doing this

NSString literals moment

90% sure i tried that and it hates me, but i'm going to try it again to be sure

it also works on my machine

did i not try this

bruh

well then

[onyx ember]

ahm, .procursus_rootless

[timid furnace]

can we just have one standard path pls

jailbreak info or some shit

when eta ISO for jailbreakers (impossible)

[ocean raptor]

Instead it .procursus_strapped or something?

Bros coming up with standards that literally nobody will ever use

libxpc is literally part of libsystem...

No extra lib

You literally just use it

Bro

If it's in /var/jb isn't rootless

If it's in / it's rootful

[onyx ember]

Signifies? lmao, anything that's written to /var/jb is rootless and anything written to / is rooted, please use common sense in jailbreaks otherwise you guys will hammer the head of devs lol

[ocean raptor]

u0 does not use procursus

I can't wait

That'll be the day that I end up just finding a bug and getting myself a SRD

[onyx ember]

Can they prevent me from switching to Android?

nah

[ocean raptor]

Don't worry, the EU will make jailbreaking mandatory

[onyx ember]

Might as well start the process of transition right now then

[timid furnace]

tbd files are YAML right

[ocean raptor]

Yes

[timid furnace]

great, time to add in a comment

[onyx ember]

Like they forced USB-C, I think Apple will go port less instead, use magsafe lol

In order to do this you might have to send it in 🤷‍♂️

[ocean raptor]

The Apple TV and Watch method

The Watch method is you bring it to an Apple Store and they replace it

Cause even apple stores can't restore it iirc

[onyx ember]

It's Apple

Use your feelings, you'll know it to be true

Then join Google

They did, but things have improved a lot (believe me)

[ocean raptor]

You can restore a watchOS in recovery mode from a phone, but dfu like restores are not possible

The stores do not have the cables necessary

Even if you have a cable, good luck getting idevicerestore to work with watchOS

With the limited ipsw selection available

Cool

I still don't understand the point of -n

I'm gonna fix -H all together

-Hsha1 -Hsha256 should enable both

No

Does it?

I'll look tmrw

[onyx ember]

Don't think we need SHA1 anymore...

[ocean raptor]

Bro doesn't know about iOS 10

[onyx ember]

iOS 10 is old (legacy software) 😂

[ocean raptor]

ldid is older

[onyx ember]

You've upgraded ldid

[ocean raptor]

The Sign() function that acts on a directory

[ocean raptor]

Writing software that supports iOS 10+ is not uncommon

Literally the app capt is trying to sign does that

Gamepigeon supports iOS 10-16

[onyx ember]

Don't know about Gamepigeon, but a lot of iOS apps have already dropped iOS 10 support, you have apps supporting from 12 and later.

[timid furnace]

so -n is just no deep

understandable have a good day

[ocean raptor]

But it would still sign the binaries next to it, like what is with opa's issue, right?

Yes, I know

No

Why not sign .app, then sign frameworks, then sign appex

No need for -n

Invalid balls

L

Why does -n not have that

Idk

I'll look into stuff tmrw if I have time

What

Idk

I have to look at everything myself before I make a decision

I can't read that on my phone

But go ahead

Forward them and see what breaks

And check git log to see if he made a note of why he isn't forwarding

[tepid olive]

idek haven’t tested it

[naive kraken]

hm ok

[naive kraken]

I'm guessing the issue is that you really don't want to sign all binaries in the app with the entititlements you pass via -S

Because that would probably break app plugins

But the solution for this currently is incorrect

I think what should be done with -S is: resign the main binary with the passed entitlements, resign all other binaries but keep their entitlements

this way if you wanted to change the entitlements of a binary that's not the main binary you could still do it by doing a command before it by passing the full path and not just the bundle

and this issue then kinda travelled into -s too maybe

[lime pivot]

oh TIL -n, thanks for this

I have a change in my local Theos I haven't pushed yet that signs bundles rather than individual binaries

part of why I haven't pushed is because I realised I have to take care to not just trample on the signatures of child bundles/binaries

[ocean raptor]

He just added it in a PR

Do not use it

[lime pivot]

ooo I get it ok

well I can wait a bit before I start changing stuff

[shy reef]

Stupid question but am I safe to assume that iOS 15.1 uses the 14.5 SDKs for Theos or is there specifically a 15.1 SDK that I cannot find

[naive kraken]

on a second note, I think this is what your -n is supposed to fix?

[ocean raptor]

@lime pivot you are no longer allowed to make fun of me for using FreeBSD, I am the reason that macOS Ventura's /usr/bin/diff has --color support

[onyx ember]

@ocean raptor thought you fixed duplicated entries...

[ocean raptor]

no?

I said that you should fix duplicated entries

[onyx ember]

You're a real troller 🤣

[ocean raptor]

thank you

[restive ether]

ultimate troller

[onyx ember]

Then fugu party is over

[tepid olive]

Can I make tweaks using C from windows/Linux (I got a Mac but it’s so shit I can’t even code on it)

[indigo peak]

you can make tweaks on windows/linux

[tepid olive]

How?

Mind telling me where to look it up?

[glacial matrix]

https://theos.dev/docs/Installation.html
Read about WSL

[tepid olive]

And Orion works with C?

Also I dual boot Linux and already have wsl anyways

[glacial matrix]

Isn’t Orion for swift?

Swift should have interoperability with C anyway

[tepid olive]

Oh well I never did iOS dev before anyways, I just know Xcode iOS support swift, c and obj-c and I know that Orion is used for iOS tweaks

[glacial matrix]

That is correct

To make that information more complete:
Xcode can only be installed on macOS
Xcode supports swift and objc++ (meaning C, C++, Objective-C, and Objective-C++)
Xcode supports building for macOS, iOS (and iPadOS), watchOS and tvOS
Which Xcode version you have determines which OS versions you can compile for (without modifications to the file system)

[tepid olive]

Yeah I know

But can I still compile for iOS from Linux or windows whichever is the best for this?

[tepid olive]

@glacial matrix how hard would you say iOS tweaks are to make? Which language would be the best to use it with? (Not c++)

[glacial matrix]

It depends on the person making the tweak and what they’re trying to do

You can use Orion and swift or Logos and Objc, or objc and manual hooks

[tepid olive]

I have little knowledge in C and some quite good knowledge with lua

[glacial matrix]

Objc might be easier to get ahold of than swift then, but again, it depends on you mostly, there’s no universal and absolute answer

[tepid olive]

So what would I use if I chose Obj-C?

Is it Orion?

[tepid olive]

Also, I know abt Orion but the heck is logos?

[tardy narwhal]

imo a good starting place would be to learn more about objc and create a few apps to begin with; think of Logos as a fancy DSL for tweaks/ superset to objc.
https://uroboro.github.io/Learn-Objective-C-in-24-Days-Clone/

whether you learn the theory & basics first and then move over to tweaks or just dive into creating tweaks directly is up to you, latter will bring the consequence of potentially not learning the language properly

[tepid olive]

Thanks

can anyone help me? ;-;

it compiles in xcode normally

[glacial matrix]

Logos or all manual

[tepid olive]

Before I look it up online, do you have any online ressources I should look up?

[glacial matrix]

Classic programmer life

[glacial matrix]

None off the top of my head

[tepid olive]

I just look up logos obj-c tutorial?

[tardy narwhal]

https://theos.dev/docs/logos-syntax

again though, this won't be fruitful unless you learn objc as well (imo) from the previously linked tutorial

[tepid olive]

Yeah I will still read it all dw

[glacial matrix]

Yup

[tepid olive]

Ight I’m looking at the GitHub and it seems to be documented with full examples so far, I’ll look into it, thanks

Wait why does it talk about substrade/Cydia?

[tardy narwhal]

tl;dr of the entirety would be as follows:
to make your tweaks "work" you need some sort of framework which lets you deploy tweaks - Substrate (full: "Cydia Substrate") is one of those although nowadays deprecated in favor of Substitute or libhooker

[tepid olive]

How may I use either one of those

[tepid olive]

The framework part I knew, I just don’t know which to use, especially with new rootless jailbreak I doubt much tutorial has gotten updated for rootless tweaks or whatever

Maybe I just haven’t even understood the point of rootless tho

[tardy narwhal]

dw about that part, as aforementioned, Logos is just a DSL and it'll boil down to regular C/objC/objc++ underneath with the appropriate calls to CydiaSubstrate functions - for which either framework (substitute or libhooker) has shims for afaik

[tepid olive]

So… where do I go if documentation still use deprecated stuff?

[tardy narwhal]

which part are you referencing in particular?

[tepid olive]

The framework

Where do I go to get the good one and to get the right documentation

[tardy narwhal]

huh, I don't follow your question sorry. Can you link or screenshot which part is still confusing?

[tepid olive]

Alright, so following what you told me, where do I go first

I just got confused cuz the websites and info I had were about deprecated stuff apparently

[tardy narwhal]

again imo, follow the objc guide, then move to making apps purely in objc and then drop by here to get started with tweaks

you're always welcome to ask questions about objc here and hopefully get proper support, the language just looks a bit dated but it's powerful

[tepid olive]

Yeah but where the hell am I supposed to go for tweaks

I won’t touch it yet but I wanna see how it looks

[tardy narwhal]

You don't need to justify yourself, all good. Whatever you do is your choice and you'd be lying to yourself in the end if at all;
https://github.com/MTACS/TweakGuide

Take the tweak guides with a pinch of salt, every developer has their own set of preferences in regards to structure, code-style and deployment

[tepid olive]

Got it, thanks a lot

[tardy narwhal]

np, have fun on the adventure!

[tepid olive]

☺️

What emoji auto complete?

What da heeeeel

Allllrgit this guide looks amazing ngl

[tepid olive]

I’m done reading it… gawd damn… syntax be fucked up real bad

Tho it def did help a lot

[ocean raptor]

@hasty ruin you were on my TikTok fyp ☺️

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRqn9DLM/

[hasty ruin]

it's on everyone's fr

[ocean raptor]

There was one

Someone complaining about tweaks not being updated for rootless lol

QuickAction rootless never coming 🙏

[copper stream]

https://tenor.com/view/yummy-gif-26059919

[tepid olive]

mean

[tepid olive]

From the guide, which sdk do i want to download for it to be compatible on ios 15?

I looked up the website and it only goes up to 14

[tardy narwhal]

did you already learn objc?

[tepid olive]

No just wanted to check it out, also is it just me or isn't orion looking quite easier syntax wise? at least from what i saw on the orion website's example

[tardy narwhal]

usually just grab an sdk matching the target iOS version, e.g. if your targets are on 15 then grab any 15.x sdk available or dump it yourself if eligible.

In regards to Orion, it's just a matter of preference. I dig objc so idc about it

[tepid olive]

Will the tutorial still work then?

Also my only not usb-c wire for my phone just broke, so i can't jailbreak it using checkra1n, can i test tweaks from my computa?

[tardy narwhal]

do you have a mac?

[tepid olive]

i do, i know about the ios emulator and the github thing to add tweak on it but my mac is just too shit to even run xcode

it legit crashes 20 min after having it opened sadly

nvm this is my lucky fucking dayyyyy i just found another one that works!!!!

[tardy narwhal]

okay i guess?

[tepid olive]

so imma be good to go

[tardy narwhal]

but yeah, you can test your tweaks with the iphone simulator to a certain extent

[tepid olive]

also when i'll be done with that tutorial, where else should i go for more iOS resources?

[tardy narwhal]

depends on your interest and what you're seeking; Usually using google with good queries is sufficient for roughly 70-80% of the questions in regards to coding and browsing open-source tweaks yields knowledge as well.

the upper two options will certainly demand that you invest in yourself to properly read and understand code, the logic/ potential algorithm behind it and the methodology used

[tepid olive]

Honestly i don't really know what exactly i would do, i just felt like trying it out, making a fun project, maybe even finish the fun project, and etc, also just to learn more languages overall

[indigo peak]

i mean, thats how i started w tweaks

i started w a specific tweak i wanted to make

and over time i learned more

[tepid olive]

got any idea or goal to give me?

[indigo peak]

be happy w your own results

[tardy narwhal]

as mentioned by fiore, pick a problem you're currently having or a convenience you'd like to see and check if it's simple or complex - if simple, try to create a solution and hopefully be happy with your result regardless how good it is

[tepid olive]

Problem being my main phone isn't jailbroken, my main phone has never been jailbroken

[indigo peak]

neither is mine

[tepid olive]

I only got in jailbreaking ~6 months ago, and then i found out about all my old phones

[indigo peak]

i dont have any jailbroken device on ios 10+

[tepid olive]

My latest jailbroken is a 7

[tardy narwhal]

you can deploy on that as well

grab a matching sdk and you're good to go

[tepid olive]

I mean yeah but there isn't much problems i ever had with normal ios, all i ever wished to jailbreak for was to upgrade even more the jailbreak experience

[tardy narwhal]

Recreating existing tweaks isn't bad either fwiw, the selection should be plentiful

[indigo peak]

well ive been making tweaks for app recently and not for springboard and just using sideloadly to sideload w tweaks

[tepid olive]

Oh, i could do that

[indigo peak]

this

[tardy narwhal]

honestly tho, take a step back and just think what you'd like to do. you can always hop back in here and ask for guidance, tips, etc. anytime anyway

[tepid olive]

thanks

[naive kraken]

this script is broken for file paths that have a space in them

when enumerating in the for loop it cuts off at the space and then it fails

[tepid olive]

i think i'd like to tweaks apps

i'd like to... tweak discord... o smt like that, maybe yt idk

make my own ad blocker or smt

[tardy narwhal]

more power to you if that's your choice

[tepid olive]

yeah i guess i'll go with that, thanks a lot

btw can i sideload from linux? i know about altlinux but i can't seem to install the gi dependencie

[tardy narwhal]

probably can but that's not a question for here, for that support question you'll have to drag your feet through the hell of #jailbreak or #969343289641828382

[glacial matrix]

Well done 👍🏻

[ocean raptor]

do you have a free or paid dev acct?

[fathom snow]

THAT’S WHAT I’VE BEEN SAYING

[ocean raptor]

everyone is well aware that ldid sucks

when are you gonna write a replacement?

[fathom snow]

dude

that's a wonderful idea

thank you my dear friend cameron

[ocean raptor]

we are not friends 😐

[fathom snow]

https://tenor.com/view/leatylrs-friends-gif-24355358

[naive kraken]

@marble perch
made ChatGPT fix your script, replace the for loop with

find "$TEMPDIR_NEW" -type f | while read -r file; do
  if file -ib "$file" | grep -q "x-mach-binary; charset=binary"; then
    echo "$file"
    INSTALL_NAME=$(otool -D "$file" | grep -v -e ":$" -e "^Archive :" | head -n1)
    otool -L "$file" | tail -n +2 | grep /usr/lib/'[^/]'\*.dylib | cut -d' ' -f1 | tr -d "[:blank:]" > "$TEMPDIR_OLD"/._lib_cache
    if [ -n "$INSTALL_NAME" ]; then
        install_name_tool -id @rpath/"$(basename "$INSTALL_NAME")" "$file" >/dev/null 2>&1
    fi
    if otool -L "$file" | grep -q CydiaSubstrate; then
        install_name_tool -change /Library/Frameworks/CydiaSubstrate.framework/CydiaSubstrate @rpath/libsubstrate.dylib "$file" >/dev/null 2>&1
    fi
    if [ -f "$TEMPDIR_OLD"/._lib_cache ]; then
        cat "$TEMPDIR_OLD"/._lib_cache | while read line; do
            install_name_tool -change "$line" @rpath/"$(basename "$line")" "$file" >/dev/null 2>&1
        done
    fi
    install_name_tool -add_rpath "/usr/lib" "$file" >/dev/null 2>&1
    install_name_tool -add_rpath "/var/jb/usr/lib" "$file" >/dev/null 2>&1

    $LDID -s "$file"
  fi
done

[ocean raptor]

not valid

[naive kraken]

why not

what should I ask it to fix

[ocean raptor]

how are you gonna do a do done statement without a for or while

oh wait

I'm blind

never mind me

[naive kraken]

I mean this works

just at the end of the script there is another error like this occuring when ur working dir has a space in it

trying to fix that now too

[ocean raptor]

hmm

ok

short flag though

[naive kraken]

no idea

I mean only the loop changed

[tepid olive]

why are you messing with code signature tools so much

[ocean raptor]

he's trying and failing to sideload an app

[naive kraken]

if any of the files in the deb has a space in it, the script fails

and the end of the script has a similar issue when the working dir has a space in it

I'm still trying to fix that

[ocean raptor]

spaces in file names is cursed

[light rain]

I have an iPhone 12 that need to be iCloud unlcoked

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow wen eta captsign

[ocean raptor]

#969343289641828382

[naive kraken]

fixed the end too:

OUTPATH="$(pwd)"/"$(grep Package: "$TEMPDIR_NEW"/DEBIAN/control | cut -f2 -d ' ')"_"$(grep Version: "$TEMPDIR_NEW"/DEBIAN/control | cut -f2 -d ' ')"_"$(grep Architecture: "$TEMPDIR_NEW"/DEBIAN/control | cut -f2 -d ' ')".deb

fakeroot dpkg-deb -b "'$TEMPDIR_NEW'" "'$OUTPATH'"

[ocean raptor]

ew wtf

why two sets of quotes

[naive kraken]

Because that fixes it

and nothing else does

lol

like if you make a folder

with a space

cd into it

and try to run the script

uh

I mean no

But Crane and Choicy have spaces in front of their dylibs to make the injector load them first

Anyways both of the issues are fixed for me with the code snippets I sent

[ocean raptor]

finally got an iOS 16 jb

W

binpack only

[tepid olive]

no

but i actually don't need to sideload it

[tepid olive]

Hey, for such things, would i still need to go and get an ios sdk? i can't find the ios 15 sdk

[tepid olive]

What all can you make it do?

Make an untether 😮

[tepid olive]

ellekit safe mode

[naive kraken]

https://github.com/asdfugil/haxx here you go

[tepid olive]

real???

unc0ver update???

nah we all know nobody's gonna care even if its the most powerfull exploit

[tepid olive]

Can it make a pac bypass?😏

[tepid olive]

Did chatgpt make this?

[naive kraken]

obviously not

ChatGPT has no concept of creativity

it can't create stuff that doesn't already exist to some extend

[steady nest]

watch it grab fugu15's src and add tweak injection to it

[tepid olive]

Can it fix the deep sleep bug in fugu15?

[naive kraken]

that's not as easy as people think

[naive kraken]

obviously not

also you could always ask it yourself

it probably doesn't even know what fugu15 is

[tepid olive]

oof

[naive kraken]

it couldn't

[tepid olive]

Lets ask him why pwn20wn or smt left us all

yeah do we still not know what happened with the unc0ver guys and the checkra1n devs to just leave at the same time out of nowhere?

Collaboration? Maybe😂

[naive kraken]

checkra1n is not dead, it's just that barely anyone works on it anymore

[tepid olive]

“UnC0verra1n”

[naive kraken]

but we obviously know what happened

SSV

[tepid olive]

but... seeing how fast checkm8 jailbreaks came out when people tried... how come they just not be able to make any progress in a whole year?

They moved on

😭

[naive kraken]

SSV and PPL

are the things that happened

[steady nest]

I'd argue PPL is the biggest offender tbh...

[tepid olive]

woops

i just asked the ai on how to make an ios 16 untether jailbreak

Wish there was a way something could be made that you could plug into the phone and it just know what it needed to do to get a proper jb made for the latest iOS

[steady nest]

you need an iBoot/Bootrom bug, ez

[tepid olive]

Ik that’s probably not realistic tho

hey huh how do i compile objc on linux? looked it up online and i kinda couldn't figure it out sadly

[faint stag]

if you’re making a tweak, install theos
otherwise clang should work fine. you’ll have to specify a path to the sdk if you’re building for ios of course

[tepid olive]

i am, i followed a tutorial that was previously sent but i can't get it working so far

[tardy narwhal]

if you followed the theos installation guide, you should have an environment capable of compiling objc source files

[tepid olive]

alright ngl orion seems quite easier

yup, ngl logos has one heck of a weird syntax too

[indigo peak]

logos isn’t weird, that’s just objective-c

logos just adds a couple things to make tweak development easier

like %hook and %orig

[tepid olive]

isn't there a hook thing for orion too?

[indigo peak]

yeah

[tepid olive]

I mean might just be me but i like

import Orion
import UIKit

class LabelHook: ClassHook<UILabel> {
    func setText(_ text: String) {
        orig.setText(
            text.uppercased().replacingOccurrences(of: " ", with: "👏")
        )
    }
}
``` better than whatever the heck there is with obj-c

[indigo peak]

thats the whole point of Orion/Logos

[tepid olive]

Exactly

[indigo peak]

%hook UILabel
-(void)setText:(NSString*)text {
  %orig([text.uppercaseString stringByReplacingOccurrencesOfString:@" " withString:@"👏");
}
%end

its not too bad

[tepid olive]

brother

stringByReplacingOccurrencesOfString:@

I just had 3 strokes

[indigo peak]

thats not logos

that just objc

lol

[tepid olive]

exactly

[indigo peak]

thats apple

not logos

[tepid olive]

i mean fr i had legit 3 strokes

that is the longest keyword i ever saw in my 1 year of programming

1 year might not be much but fr tho wtf is wrong with that

[indigo peak]

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/quartz/qcplugincontext/1488754-outputimageproviderfrombufferwit?language=objc

outputImageProviderFromBufferWithPixelFormat:pixelsWide:pixelsHigh:baseAddress:bytesPerRow:releaseCallback:releaseContext:colorSpace:shouldColorMatch:

[tepid olive]

are they on crack?

i mean for swift its
outputImageProviderFromBuffer(withPixelFormat:pixelsWide:pixelsHigh:baseAddress:bytesPerRow:releaseCallback:releaseContext:colorSpace:shouldColorMatch:)

but anyways idfk what the fuck that is and i don't care

[indigo peak]

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/contacts/cnlabelcontactrelationauntparentseldersister?language=objc

[tepid olive]

I followed the https://orion.theos.dev/getting-started.html guide and i get a buncha warning when using make do
example:

<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found```

<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
[5/8] Compiling ArgumentParser BashCompletionsGenerator.swift^CFailed to build orion: command failed: SPM_THEOS_BUILD=1 swift build -c release --package-path /home/justdie/theos/vendor/orion --build-path /home/justdie/theos/vendor/orion/.theos_build
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:215: internal-text-orion] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:63: before-text-all] Interrupt
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: text.all.tweak.variables] Interrupt

[indigo peak]

do you have a swift toolchain

[tepid olive]

i installed swift yes

swift-lang

im on fedora

[indigo peak]

did you do that

[tepid olive]

i think i did

let me do it again

might have gotten some unnoticed errors

why does it install a ubuntu stuff then?

[indigo peak]

idk

[unique thistle]

Anyway to use Crane with separate icons as opposed to long pressing and selecting the container?

[ocean raptor]

Yes, make opa do even more uicache tomfoolery

Still waiting for opa to upstream his uicache changes

[naive kraken]

yes but only using the Shortcuts Integration

[unique thistle]

Ooh, is that another tweak?

[tepid olive]

Error: The loaded '_InternalSwiftSyntaxParser' library is from a toolchain that is not compatible with this version of SwiftSyntax i did the theos install thing and get this now

[lime pivot]

I’m kinda amused that you can’t stick these relation bits together, like [.parent, .elder, .sister]

[lime pivot]

wait fr that’s cool

[naive kraken]

no

you make a shortcut to switch to a certain container

then you add it to your home screen

[unique thistle]

Ahh I see

Lovely

[naive kraken]

I basically rewrote it

and it's just for user apps tbh

[ocean raptor]

https://reviews.freebsd.org/D30545

[lime pivot]

oh wow that’s a while ago

Troll E. Bus

[ocean raptor]

That's even more cursed than spaces

Unicode ruining our fun 🧌

[naive kraken]

I also made something to replace the program path in daemon plists but I think it's not universal enough to put it into the script

[lime pivot]

while I have you @ocean raptor, got a problem which is Very Fun and you may have some thoughts

[naive kraken]

because some plists use the first arg of ProgramArguments

[tepid olive]

bash: line 1: /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/clang: No such file or directory
bash: line 1: /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/clang: No such file or directory
bash: line 1: /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/clang: No such file or directory
==> Compiling Sources/text/Tweak.x.swift (arm64e)…
bash: line 1: /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/swift: No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:254: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/text/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/Sources/text/Tweak.x.swift.2e11e521.o] Error 127
==> Compiling Sources/text/Tweak.x.swift (arm64)…
bash: line 1: /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/swift: No such file or directory
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:254: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/text/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/Sources/text/Tweak.x.swift.b809d7c7.o] Error 127
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/text/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/text.dylib] Error 2
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/text/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/text.dylib] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:37: internal-library-all_] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:119: text.all.tweak.variables] Error 2``` @indigo peak hewp

[lime pivot]

so NewTerm has this binary that avoids the need for fork(), NewTermLoginHelper

the problem is it then does exec, but on xina, exec no worky

so I have to make it posix_spawn

but then if I use posix_spawn I have to carefully pass state of the subprocess up to NewTermLoginHelper

eg replicating its exit codes and signals

[ocean raptor]

I don't think it works...

I have to do some tests

[lime pivot]

it also seems to discard the environment for some reason

[ocean raptor]

I feel like it didn't work when I jailbroke my phone

[lime pivot]

well, more apple, just xina can’t easily work around it like palerain has

[ocean raptor]

Are you passing environ or envp?

[ocean raptor]

exec or fork doesn't work?

[lime pivot]

definitely doesn’t work

[lime pivot]

neither, but now I think of it, environ would work to solve that

[ocean raptor]

Are you trying to pass info to new process or from new process?

[lime pivot]

https://github.com/hbang/NewTerm/blob/main/NewTermLoginHelper/main.c that's what login helper does

[lime pivot]

not sure what you mean by from, I don't think that would be possible?

NewTerm itself sets the envp

and because you mention it I'm going to have it pass though environ from NewTerm

[timid furnace]

shit you reminded me I gotta fix the daemon path in my build system

[ocean raptor]

Just use POSIX_SPAWN_SETEXEC

[lime pivot]

oh no kidding I can do that?

ok it's a thing, that's very cool

that will save my ass

[faint stag]

are you sure you symlinked the right directory

[tepid olive]

huh?

[faint stag]

when installing the toolchain

[tepid olive]

oh so i changed some stuff and now it gives me a permission denied

[naive kraken]

that will literally do an execve though

so idk if it works

[tepid olive]

> Making all for tweak text…
Permission denied at /home/justdie/theos/bin/swift-bootstrapper.pl line 67.
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:197: internal-text-swift-support] Error 13
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:62: before-text-all] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: text.all.tweak.variables] Error 2
[justdie@aorus]~/Documents/Tweaks/text% ```

[lime pivot]

mmmm well, yeah, that's just the same problem with more steps then lmao

[naive kraken]

give it a try regardless

maybe it spawns a new process and kills the current one

instead of changing the current one

[ocean raptor]

You aren't forking, so what's the issue?

[lime pivot]

possible, let's see what xnu does

[faint stag]

67 is when it tries to make a lockfile
dunno why that's failing

[tepid olive]

thing is it gives me a permission denied even tho i used chmod +x and sudo chmod +x

[indigo peak]

did you install everything in root

[tepid olive]

root?

when im in root it says

make: *** No rule to make target '/tweak.mk'. Stop.

[faint stag]

it's not referring to execute permissions

[lime pivot]

well, the main reference to it I can find pretty much calls it "execve() with options"

[tepid olive]

so... what the heck do i do now?

[plain python]

is fork actually broken on xina?

[tepid olive]

alright well i might want to do that on windows because i have no way to sideload apps on linux and i can't seem to be able to jailbreak my devices because palera1n on linux is ass

[lime pivot]

don't know, but I can avoid it, so I am

better to be safe about it

[plain python]

since I remember a crap ton of stuff was broken until I fixed fork in cheyote

[lime pivot]

ok yeah so it occurs to me now that environ doesn't get passed, only exactly what's in envp does

in posix_spawn

as can be evidenced by all the __ and other weird env vars now showing up here lol

iTerm does pass through environ so may as well have NewTerm do it as well

[naive kraken]

yes

xina fixed some of it by making a wrapper binary and dylibifying half of the bootstrap

because allegedly for some reason fork works when called from a dylib or something

[lime pivot]

ok that's crazy lmao

not sure I'd expect that to keep working for too much longer

[plain python]

wtf

[plain python]

that is true, but it's possible to fix it in the executable

[ocean raptor]

Don't wish, do

[tepid olive]

he won’t release it anyway

[indigo peak]

@ocean raptor
ldid.cpp(2178): _assert(): open(): C:\Users\DONATO~1\AppData\Local\Temp\captappsign-ldid\staging\Payload\Game Pack.app\Frameworks\.ldid.DTBiOSSDK.framework/_CodeSignature/CodeResources

do you have and idea

im using capt's -n shit but idk if thats just a regular ldid issue

[restive ether]

n

[ocean raptor]

Idk

Ask capt

[indigo peak]

hes not responding

[restive ether]

he's hungover

too much eggnog

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow nit

[tepid olive]

@ocean raptor heyyyyy

any idea how to call ldrestart over xpc

or myself, inside launchd

i want to restart all daemons after loading the hooking lib

[restive ether]

noooooo ldrestart nooooo

[tepid olive]

looks like i’ll have to open ida before bed

Ohhhhh

Found a way to allow DYLD env vars

gotta write a patchfinder to hook that function

cc @grave sparrow

gonna try to use this to do fugu15 tweak injection support

if i can patch it with movz x0, #1 ret it should work

[fathom snow]

oh shit

triangle15

[timid briar]

Would this suffice to support arm64e or would that require a different approach? It’s cool to see either way tho

[tepid olive]

.

i don’t know bro

[timid briar]

As in, testing on a physical device to see?

[naive kraken]

if you figure out PAC and injecting a level 7 dylib into a level 8 binary just so happens to work, then this might actually work

[fathom snow]

it just…might…work

[naive kraken]

But... you will never be able to make hooking C functions or userspace reboots work without somehow passing krw / ppl write primitives to launchd

At least I don't see how you would

unless you can figure out a PPLless / KRWless way of getting CS_DEBUGGED

[indigo peak]

what is ppl

[naive kraken]

the thing that makes jailbreaks no no in iOS 15.2 and up

Page Protection Layer

sorta a kernel inside the kernel that the kernel itself upcalls to and certain memory regions can only be written to while in PPL mode

[indigo peak]

so what needs to be in place to bypass ppl

[naive kraken]

a ppl bypass

like tlbFail from Fugu15

The problem with Fugu15 is imo it's not easily extendable

and it has no libkrw

[indigo peak]

so youd need a kernel exploit for a ppl bypass

[naive kraken]

usually it's

[indigo peak]

thanks

[naive kraken]

Kernel Exploit -> PAC Bypass -> PPL bypass

[indigo peak]

ok what pac

[naive kraken]

kernel PAC

[indigo peak]

(im sorry)

[naive kraken]

pointer authentication

bruh

[indigo peak]

Political Action Committee (PAC)

[naive kraken]

just read like the Fugu14 writeup or something

[indigo peak]

im assuming theres little to no iOS 16 kernel shit

[tepid olive]

```[justdie@aorus]~/Documents/Tweaks/nice% make do

Making all for tweak nice…
==> Preprocessing Sources/nice/Tweak.x.swift…
Error: The loaded '_InternalSwiftSyntaxParser' library is from a toolchain that is not compatible with this version of SwiftSyntax
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:320: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/generated/nice.xc.swift] Error 1
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
==> Preprocessing Sources/nice/Tweak.x.swift…
Error: The loaded 'InternalSwiftSyntaxParser' library is from a toolchain that is not compatible with this version of SwiftSyntax
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:320: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/generated/nice.xc.swift] Error 1
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:37: internal-library-all] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: nice.all.tweak.variables] Error 2```

Im still trying to get it running...

[nimble parcel]

Which version of Swift are you using? Lmk the exact output of swift --version

[tepid olive]

Swift version 5.7.2 (swift-5.7.2-RELEASE)
Target: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[justdie@aorus]~/theos% 

[nimble parcel]

Where did you get your toolchain from?

[tepid olive]

im on fedora

so i got it from dnf

[spice egret]

I like your funny words magic man

[naive kraken]

nothing has changed between 15 and 16 in terms of post exploitation afaik

[nimble parcel]

im asking about the iOS cross-compilation toolchain, not the host toolchain — the one in $THEOS/toolchains

[tepid olive]

How can i see this? i just downloaded it from the website

[nimble parcel]

which website?

[tepid olive]

the official one

dw i used the normal installer n shit

[nimble parcel]

swift.org?

[indigo peak]

$THEOS/toolchain/swift/iphone/bin/swift --version

[restive ether]

nerd command

[indigo peak]

theos.dev

or whatever it is

[tepid olive]

zsh: no such file or directory: /toolchain/swift/iphone/bin/swift```
this explains a lot ![why](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/852952006339330068.webp?size=128 "why")

[indigo peak]

echo $THEOS

[tepid olive]

[justdie@aorus]~/theos% 
```L

[timid furnace]

[tepid olive]

This also explains a lot

[restive ether]

sick setup

[tepid olive]

yaaaaaaaaaa

i had to re-install theos 20 times cuz i kept fucking it all up

[nimble parcel]

also run ls ~/theos/toolchain

[tepid olive]

[justdie@aorus]~/theos% ```
***COUGH COUGH***

[nimble parcel]

yeah that explains a lot too

[indigo peak]

im assuming youre in /home/justdie rn

@nimble parcel theres a grammatical error in youre discord profile's "About Me" section

[tepid olive]

yessir

[indigo peak]

this is a severe issue and needs to be resolved instantly

[indigo peak]

ls /home/justdie/theos

[nimble parcel]

okay so you need to

1. make sure $THEOS points to ~/theos
2. install an Orion-compatible toolchain from https://github.com/kabiroberai/swift-toolchain-linux/releases/tag/v2.2.2

[tepid olive]

'~'                   extras    LICENSE.md   package.json   sdks        vendor
 bin                  include   makefiles    Prefix.pch     templates
 CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md   lib       mod          README.md      toolchain
[justdie@aorus]~/theos% 

i do have it installed yall

[nimble parcel]

actually idk if this will work with fedora but you can hope

[tepid olive]

i got some sdks from... idfk i just got an ios 15.5 sdk from online idk if its good or idfk somehow considered piracy but oh well

[indigo peak]

export THEOS=~/theos

[nimble parcel]

there are several, it’s a copypasta sir

[indigo peak]

the adn bothered me

its what i was fixating on

[nimble parcel]

got ur attention though didn’t it

[restive ether]

win

[tepid olive]

so, wut now

[indigo peak]

your pfp is what got my attention 😈 yeah i guess it did

[indigo peak]

echo $THEOS

[tepid olive]

/home/justdie/theos
[justdie@aorus]~/theos% 

[indigo peak]

ok

$THEOS/toolchain/swift/iphone/bin/swift --version

[tepid olive]

zsh: no such file or directory: /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/swift/iphone/bin/swift

[indigo peak]

ls $THEOS/toolchain

[tepid olive]

[justdie@aorus]~/theos% 

[indigo peak]

actually

im dumb

[tepid olive]

jesus wtf is going on

[nimble parcel]

they don’t have a toolchain

[indigo peak]

that makes sense

yeah

[tepid olive]

i just don

[indigo peak]

since the toolchain install requires $THEOS to be set

yeah

[tepid olive]

ooooh im so fucking stupid i forgot to download it

[indigo peak]

ln -s $THEOS

mkdir -p $THEOS

 sudo apt install zstd
 curl -LO https://github.com/CRKatri/llvm-project/releases/download/swift-5.3.2-RELEASE/swift-5.3.2-RELEASE-ubuntu20.04.tar.zst
 TMP=$(mktemp -d)
 tar -xvf swift-5.3.2-RELEASE-ubuntu20.04.tar.zst -C $TMP
 mkdir -p $THEOS/toolchain/linux/iphone $THEOS/toolchain/swift
 mv $TMP/swift-5.3.2-RELEASE-ubuntu20.04/* $THEOS/toolchain/linux/iphone/
 ln -s $THEOS/toolchain/linux/iphone $THEOS/toolchain/swift
 rm -r swift-5.3.2-RELEASE-ubuntu20.04.tar.zst $TMP

rerun those commands

[nimble parcel]

okay wait wait

[tepid olive]

thx

[nimble parcel]

wrong toolchain

[indigo peak]

do whatever kabir says

[tepid olive]

hmm?

no its swift

[nimble parcel]

use mine

[indigo peak]

he's the smart one

yeah

[tepid olive]

oh ok sure

[indigo peak]

be smart

[tepid olive]

i trust you

[nimble parcel]

.

[tepid olive]

btw yall idk why but at first my theos installed as ~/theos in my desktop folder so when i tried to remove it using rm -rf ~...

[restive ether]

this theos guy sure knows how to theos

[nimble parcel]

barely i feel my brain cell count diminishing day by day

[tepid olive]

what the heck do i do if im on not ubuntu?

[indigo peak]

just use the ubuntu20.04 one

itll probably be fine

dont quote me on that

[tepid olive]

sure

[nimble parcel]

yeah probably

[indigo peak]

this sums up the last 3 years of my life

[tepid olive]

actually imma use the 22.04 one cuz idfk

[indigo peak]

this sums up my entire life

[tepid olive]

me before math exams

me after math exams

[indigo peak]

me during math exams

_ _

[nimble parcel]

from my experience the lower the Ubuntu version you target the more likely it is to work on a different distro

[tepid olive]

nothing

[indigo peak]

hear me out

[restive ether]

@primal perch

[indigo peak]

ubuntu 1.0

[primal perch]

less snap more win

[indigo peak]

cant go wrong there

[primal perch]

john xina

[tepid olive]

so there is a .18 and a .20 which do i pick?

[nimble parcel]

and if you can’t get any to work then the nuclear option is to just use Docker

[restive ether]

do you think Xina is a big fan of John Cena

[tepid olive]

the older the betta?

[indigo peak]

just pick 20

[nimble parcel]

try 18

[primal perch]

probably

[indigo peak]

fuck

[tepid olive]

[nimble parcel]

lmao

[indigo peak]

do what kabir says

[restive ether]

[tepid olive]

LOL

[indigo peak]

look im the first line of defense

[tepid olive]

sure

your the boss

[indigo peak]

i have no issue saying im wrong

[restive ether]

@primal perch

[tepid olive]

and im your e-kitten

[primal perch]

british army

checks out

[indigo peak]

im deactiviting my acount

[tepid olive]

huh?

[nimble parcel]

also im on a flight rn so there’s a very good chance my internet will die at some point

[tepid olive]

wtf are those

[restive ether]

just have flight wifi

[indigo peak]

the rizztionary

[indigo peak]

FUCK

[tepid olive]

sure

[nimble parcel]

I do but it’s spotty

[indigo peak]

@tepid olive hurry up

kabir might leave us soon

[tepid olive]

what the fuck is it?

[restive ether]

southwest wifi was super reliable

[tepid olive]

OH SHIT

KABIR

MY WIFI IS ASS RN I CAN'T DO SHIT

[indigo peak]

look, if you ever have any issues with anything, the best way to handle it is by getting help from the owner of it

[nimble parcel]

chill if it goes it’ll probably come back too

[tepid olive]

always the best option

[indigo peak]

your phone is bootlooping bc of xina, just go to apple

[tepid olive]

explain you tried to jalbrake

[indigo peak]

oh wait i cant say that

whoops

[tepid olive]

jalbrake gone wrong (got sexual)

[spice egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/857374320519282738.gif?size=100&quality=lossless

[indigo peak]

it's always sexual with shepgoba

[primal perch]

it is (if 18+)

[tepid olive]

asked for apple support (got arrested )

[indigo peak]

if ive learned ANYTHING being in this channel, its when shep gets involved, i get wet

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

ight kabir im done with the download and i extracted it, where does it go?

[nimble parcel]

$THEOS/toolchain

[indigo peak]

just follow this

but change the directories and shit

to match the actual version

idfk

[primal perch]

i looove zstd

[indigo peak]

im not smart

[nimble parcel]

so you should end up with a $THEOS/toolchain/linux dir

[tepid olive]

what the fuck

[tepid olive]

``` this good?

[primal perch]

just die

[nimble parcel]

no you want the linux dir inside that to be directly in toolchain

[tepid olive]

/home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux

[nimble parcel]

sí

[tepid olive]

i do the make do again?

> Making all for tweak nice…
==> Building Swift support tools…
/home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift: error while loading shared libraries: libtinfo.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Failed to build swift-support: command failed: SPM_THEOS_BUILD=1 /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift build -c release --package-path /home/justdie/theos/vendor/swift-support --build-path /home/justdie/theos/vendor/swift-support/.theos_build
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:197: internal-nice-swift-support] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:62: before-nice-all] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: nice.all.tweak.variables] Error 2
[justdie@aorus]~/Documents/Tweaks/nice% ```

[nimble parcel]

okay the libtinfo thing is because of cross-distro shit

there’s a fix, looking up what it is

[indigo peak]

sudo apt install zstd xz-utils
curl -LO https://github.com/kabiroberai/swift-toolchain-linux/releases/download/v2.2.2/swift-5.7-ubuntu20.04.tar.xz
TMP=$(mktemp -d)
tar -xvf swift-5.7-ubuntu20.04.tar.xz -C $TMP
mkdir -p $THEOS/toolchain/linux/iphone $THEOS/toolchain/swift
mv $TMP/swift-5.7-ubuntu20.04/* $THEOS/toolchain/linux/iphone/
ln -s $THEOS/toolchain/linux/iphone $THEOS/toolchain/swift
rm -r swift-5.7-ubuntu20.04.tar.xz $TMP

those commands would prob work

[nimble parcel]

don’t think so

[indigo peak]

why not

[nimble parcel]

because you don’t need the toolchain/swift dir for Orion/my toolchain

[tepid olive]

nah i think i got it

its supposed to be swift not linux

==> Cleaning…
> Making all for tweak nice…
==> Building Swift support tools…
warning: '--build-path' option is deprecated; use '--scratch-path' instead
Building for production...
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
<unknown>:0: remark: unable to perform implicit import of "_StringProcessing" module: no such module found
[11/11] Linking parse-swiftc-output
Build complete! (2.46s)
==> Preprocessing Sources/nice/Tweak.x.swift…
Error: The loaded '_InternalSwiftSyntaxParser' library is from a toolchain that is not compatible with this version of SwiftSyntax
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:320: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/generated/nice.xc.swift] Error 1
==> Preprocessing Sources/nice/Tweak.x.swift…
Error: The loaded '_InternalSwiftSyntaxParser' library is from a toolchain that is not compatible with this version of SwiftSyntax
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:320: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/generated/nice.xc.swift] Error 1
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:37: internal-library-all_] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: nice.all.tweak.variables] Error 2
[justdie@aorus]~/Documents/Tweaks/nice%  ```

install = make do

[indigo peak]

just toolchain/iphone?

[tepid olive]

toolchain/swift/iphone

[nimble parcel]

toolchain/linux/{iphone,host}

[tepid olive]

but...

it still works...

[nimble parcel]

oh nvm

[indigo peak]

so

[tepid olive]

> Making all for tweak nice…
==> Preprocessing Sources/nice/Tweak.x.swift…
Error: The loaded '_InternalSwiftSyntaxParser' library is from a toolchain that is not compatible with this version of SwiftSyntax
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:320: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/generated/nice.xc.swift] Error 1
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/nice.dylib] Error 2
==> Preprocessing Sources/nice/Tweak.x.swift…
Error: The loaded '_InternalSwiftSyntaxParser' library is from a toolchain that is not compatible with this version of SwiftSyntax
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:320: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/generated/nice.xc.swift] Error 1
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:37: internal-library-all_] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: nice.all.tweak.variables] Error 2
[justdie@aorus]~/Documents/Tweaks/nice% ```

[nimble parcel]

idk how it’s working with /swift instead of /linux but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[nimble parcel]

it’s still using the wrong host swift toolchain

that’s actually the issue

renaming linux to swift made it not recognise the toolchain anymore so now you’re back to square one

it needs to be named linux

but then your new problem is that the ubuntu toolchain expects libtinfo

[ocean raptor]

Just symlink it

So you have both swift and Linux

[nimble parcel]

try sudo dnf install ncurses-compat-libs.x86_64

[tepid olive]

holy shit it seeems to be working???

stuck on that

/home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift-autolink-extract: /lib64/libtinfo.so.5: no version information available (required by /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift-autolink-extract)

tho it doesn't crash

oh its going thru

holy shet

@nimble parcel it spit out some random shit then

make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:37: internal-library-all_] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: nice.all.tweak.variables] Error 2```

[nimble parcel]

gonna need to see the random shit

[tepid olive]

its too long, the vscode terminal auto-deleted the rest 💀

[indigo peak]

take a ss

and send the ss

[tepid olive]

why

i sent everything there was

tried this

make do > nice.txt so it writes the output

and it gave me this?

> Making all for tweak nice…

[indigo peak]

bc its easoer tp read a ss

and if he on a flight

hes prob on hjis phone

[tepid olive]

nah man its a FUCK ton of things

by that i mean the vscode prompt auto-deleted it

there you go

i can't get a ss as there are probably thousands of line

[wicked summit]

How can I build iOS jailbreak tweaks using Scratch?

Is there a tutorial?

[tepid olive]

Scratch?

you've gotta be kiddin

[wicked summit]

Scratch is Turing complete

[nimble parcel]

try updating your SDK to iOS 16

[indigo peak]

hear me out, just use the other toolchain

[lime pivot]

lol, damn @ocean raptor that's problematic

[ocean raptor]

L

This is why I don't like putting the /var/jb base under the udid thing

What's wrong with just /private/preboot/procursus???

[lime pivot]

can we not have such a long uuid?

where is this from

will uuidgen or UUID().uuidString not be sufficient?

[ocean raptor]

It's the one ios uses for storing the kernelcache

No idea how it's generated

[tepid olive]

is /private/preboot itself not under SSV?

[ocean raptor]

Of course not

People just think placing under the uuid is some type of "jailbreak detection evasion"

[tepid olive]

it would probably be the same nontheless

[lime pivot]

is there a benefit to storing it there, like is that dir wiped on system update?

if not then a standard UUID is perfectly fine

or even a prefix of it, that’s still random enough

[ocean raptor]

None

Just another palera1n people being dumb moment

[tepid olive]

fr??

weird decision then

[indigo peak]

ldid being good challenge

like who tf makes the arguments combined w the flags

-Slooking ass

[primal perch]

gorn

GORN

[lime pivot]

be nice

[ocean raptor]

🤷‍♂️

They don't listen to me anyways

[lime pivot]

still unnecessary

[primal perch]

yea play nice

[pearl sail]

Time to get Cameron worked up about and start talking about Checkra1n team

[primal perch]

i will now bully children because they didn't design a piece of hobbyist software as well as a software engineer with a PhD

[ocean raptor]

Good idea, I'll join too

Just write capt sign at this point

[primal perch]

capt sign is captware tho

🤮

ur an adult so its ok to bully you

[ocean raptor]

codesign is C++

ldid is C++

[primal perch]

based chad C++ user

[ocean raptor]

zsign is C++

If you say GNUstep I will ban you from ldid

Rust

[primal perch]

then youd realize this is stupid because C++ has std::string

[ocean raptor]

[exotic spire]

Just replace everything with pure JavaScript

[ocean raptor]

I wish C has something like std::string, except for the fact that std::string sucks

[primal perch]

how

[ocean raptor]

The issues is, C++ is great for dealing with Mach-Os

[exotic spire]

Thank u capt

I dislike all languages that use “using namespace” to include stuff

That includes C, C++ and C#

[primal perch]

pov you dont understand c

[ocean raptor]

I wish C had namespaces

[exotic spire]

So true

[primal perch]

gm

anime hayden

[exotic spire]

Fair I just used it for like a semester and was enough

Same as Java

[primal perch]

happy birthday nig(ht)

night 1337

patricks tweak

lmao

#general message

[exotic spire]

Thank you unevolved Charizard

[primal perch]

real

W H I T E

capt ahtes jews

[exotic spire]

You too

[faint stag]

https://www.taccgl.org/blog/css_transition_display.html

evil web devs be like: let's force scrolling to be linear
once the page fully loads, scrolling speed has a max and will increase/decrease at a constant rate

[primal perch]

ofc

i dont actually write anything im just here to troll

like tri

[ocean raptor]

atf pls

Oh

...

Nah

tests are for the weak

Just write good code

[faint stag]

that shouldn't be a surprise fr

i mean, a properly signed app will launch

[hasty ruin]

👍

[primal perch]

👍

[tepid olive]

can’t it be done from fugu

i don’t need to load a dylib to hook this

i can do a mach_vm_write

[crisp frost]

https://github.com/palera1n/palera1n/tree/rootlesstweaks I don't know if this is useful to any of you, but I just hacked together a version of palera1n for rootless tweaks, 16.x only for now and you'll need dev mode turned on ofc

[wild bough]

Does anybody know a tool which lets me test/preview Core Animation (.caml) files?

[steady nest]

you lose the prim after userspace reboot

[tepid olive]

Why tho

[naive kraken]

not really, launchd needs access to these primitives

[naive kraken]

no you can't. at least not without giving launchd CS_DEBUGGED

[nimble parcel]

because Swift 5.7 expects an iOS 16 SDK

[steady nest]

would taurine's tricks to downgrade launchd's trust level still work?

[naive kraken]

On 15.2, no. Besides you don't need that as you have KRW and PPL bypassed.

It's just that nothing but Fugu15 can use it

[steady nest]

dang, would be useful to inject a dylib on us reboot

[naive kraken]

with PPL bypass you can just put the dylib into trust cache and then it will load into launchd

[steady nest]

isn't that trust level 7? dynamic tsc?

[naive kraken]

yeah

[steady nest]

launchd is 8?

[naive kraken]

allegedly on iOS 14 this works

I have no idea about 15

[steady nest]

hm

[naive kraken]

Worst case you'd have to change the trust level in the dylib vnode via PPL bypass

[tepid olive]

where do i get it?

The highest i had found was 16.0 beta 4

bruh

[nimble parcel]

annoyingly i don’t see any iOS 16 sdk dumps online but anyone with Xcode should be able to get it to you from Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneOS.platform/Developer/SDKs/iPhoneOS.sdk

[tepid olive]

i had found this

https://github.com/chrisharper22/sdks

but its a beta

[nimble parcel]

try using it anyway

[tepid olive]

Do i rename it to smt?

its currently named iPhone16.0b4.sdk

> Making all for tweak nice…
/home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/swiftc: /lib64/libtinfo.so.5: no version information available (required by /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/swiftc)
/home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift-driver: /lib64/libtinfo.so.5: no version information available (required by /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift-driver)
166
{
  "inputs" : [
    "\/home\/justdie\/Documents\/Tweaks\/nice\/.theos\/obj\/debug\/arm64\/generated\/nice.xc.swift"
  ],
  "kind" : "skipped",
  "name" : "compile"
}
101
{
  "inputs" : [
    "Sources\/nice\/Tweak.x.swift"
  ],
  "kind" : "skipped",
  "name" : "compile"
}
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:334: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/.swift-stamp] Error 1
/home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/swiftc: /lib64/libtinfo.so.5: no version information available (required by /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/iphone/bin/swiftc)
/home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift-driver: /lib64/libtinfo.so.5: no version information available (required by /home/justdie/theos/toolchain/linux/host/bin/swift-driver)
167
{
  "inputs" : [
    "\/home\/justdie\/Documents\/Tweaks\/nice\/.theos\/obj\/debug\/arm64e\/generated\/nice.xc.swift"
  ],
  "kind" : "skipped",
  "name" : "compile"
}
101
{
  "inputs" : [
    "Sources\/nice\/Tweak.x.swift"
  ],
  "kind" : "skipped",
  "name" : "compile"
}
make[3]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/rules.mk:334: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/.swift-stamp] Error 1
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64e/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[2]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:52: /home/justdie/Documents/Tweaks/nice/.theos/obj/debug/arm64/nice.dylib] Error 2
make[1]: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/instance/library.mk:37: internal-library-all_] Error 2
make: *** [/home/justdie/theos/makefiles/master/rules.mk:162: nice.all.tweak.variables] Error 2
[justdie@aorus]~/Documents/Tweaks/nice%```

[indigo peak]

@nimble parcel can he not just use Cameron’s tool chain for Orion

[tepid olive]

Anything that works please

looking at it, making tweaks for apple device on a non apple device may not be the ideal anyways (i will still do it anyways) sad that i can't use hackintosh

[indigo peak]

No it’s easy

I use WSL

[tepid olive]

oh you are on windows???

god

[indigo peak]

yeah

and it’s extremely easy

[tepid olive]

i mean

wsl is pretty good

[indigo peak]

you’re just weird and want to use swift

[nimble parcel]

eh fuck it that might be worth a shot

[tepid olive]

im just normal because the obj-c syntax is fucked up as shit

[indigo peak]

at this point yeah

[tepid olive]

fr dude it is so fucked up

[nimble parcel]

my toolchain works pretty well with Ubuntu but im not surprised that there are hitches elsewhere

[indigo peak]

@tepid olive alr so rm -rf $THEOS/toolchain/*

I think

and then just run the commands from here again

[nimble parcel]

won’t be reachable for an hour btw, plane’s landing soon

[indigo peak]

https://theos.dev/docs/installation-linux

[indigo peak]

Jesus how long was your flight 😭😭

[nimble parcel]

15 hours, Toronto to New Delhi

[tepid olive]

i did 7h of road to meet my grandparents yesterday, because i live in canada its fucking thick af so what he got ain't so bad

at least he on a plane

[tepid olive]

canadian?

[indigo peak]

I did 7 hours of road a couple times

[tepid olive]

i mean

[ocean raptor]

How is the New Deli? Are their sandwiches any good?

[tepid olive]

its way worst than 7h of plane at least

[nimble parcel]

from India but im at UWaterloo

[indigo peak]

driving from opposite ends of New York

[ocean raptor]

[tepid olive]

alright i deleted toolchain, what do i do now