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shut jewel
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they meant the version with touch id

uncut canyon
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macbook neo is available in pink and yellow.

crimson fjord
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the macbook neo has truly terrible specs unfortunately

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even for the price

shut jewel
uncut canyon
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i’m sorry this lines up too well

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it’s the spambook

crimson fjord
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6 core cpu, 5 core gpu 8gb of ram and 256gb of storage

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i mean

summer wadi
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so... how long can I expect it to go well? 5 years? maybe 3?

crimson fjord
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it's basically a chromebook

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lmao

idle vigil
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Oh, so they do want to sell it for $799.

summer wadi
uncut canyon
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THE FIELD OF PINK AND YELLOW.

crimson fjord
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the ram and storage

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256gb is unnacceptable

summer wadi
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tim cook needs to be kirked istg

tribal yew
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Basically a affordable laptop for college students or what

half compass
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yeah

untold helm
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Kinda wish they had 12Gb of ram

half compass
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pretty much

frigid otter
idle vigil
half compass
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if the upgraded model has 12gb i would be absolutely sold

summer wadi
uncut canyon
crimson fjord
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yeah and it was unacceptable

uncut canyon
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i’m sorry but crostini was underwhelming

untold helm
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Plus M1 power

crimson fjord
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yesterday today

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it's shit

tawdry river
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is 8GB even apple intelligence

untold helm
crimson fjord
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it barely makes the cut

uncut canyon
crimson fjord
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barely

half compass
summer wadi
crimson fjord
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it SHOULD have 12

half compass
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it runs fine

crimson fjord
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the neo won't be bad for

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1-2 years

half compass
crimson fjord
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give it 4 updates

summer wadi
crimson fjord
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it'll be totally and utterly fucked

shut jewel
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iWjj8(2(8ieeksllwI9

uncut canyon
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i think this chat is exactly who the target buyer base isn’t

crimson fjord
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it's literally just a base m1 air

frigid otter
tribal yew
summer wadi
half compass
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it's an m1 air sequel

narrow crown
crimson fjord
idle vigil
rustic prawn
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You’re right to call me out on that. While I am using mannerisms typically associated with AI – I can assure you that I am a human 🙂

crimson fjord
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obviously chromeos is complete garbage

half compass
shut jewel
summer wadi
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I don't wanna spend 1600 AUD for a new MacBook Air

narrow crown
idle vigil
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Wait a minute.

summer wadi
idle vigil
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It’s only $699.

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Hmm.

frigid otter
half compass
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then dont buy it 😭

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it's so easy

uncut canyon
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though, i’ve done low scale FCPX video editing on an 8gb m1 and it’s not pure suffering

summer wadi
crimson fjord
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I can't lie you're much much much better off buying a used m1 air off ebay

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It is quite literally the same machine but cheaper

summer wadi
velvet zenith
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@muted shuttle Get a job

idle vigil
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If I trade in my iPad mini, I can buy the 512gb Neo for $449.

crimson fjord
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I mean the a18 pro and the m1 are similar anyways

untold helm
half compass
muted shuttle
idle vigil
half compass
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like slightly

crimson fjord
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Anyways

tribal yew
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Some of these college kids don’t know anything about no 256gb

idle vigil
summer wadi
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I'm not joking, it serves me so well

crimson fjord
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unfortunately my $5000 macbook pro is only worth 1.7k to apple

tribal yew
untold helm
uncut canyon
untold helm
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I don’t really think they even check

idle vigil
uncut canyon
crimson fjord
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and since the new m5 pro is 4.9k for any kind of reasonable configuration i guess I won't be upgrading

untold helm
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Your a student

tawdry river
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499 is crazy price

crimson fjord
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you're

idle vigil
crimson fjord
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it really isn't

untold helm
shut jewel
idle vigil
crimson fjord
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499 is still piss poor

untold helm
narrow crown
wheat oracle
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If only they sold Mac neo for like $200

summer wadi
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apple Australia doesn't even have financing...

signal hazel
crimson fjord
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huh?

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yes they do

signal hazel
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you need an .edu email

crimson fjord
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what are you talking about lmao

uncut canyon
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i still can’t get over the fact they called it NEO

narrow crown
wheat oracle
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I’m about to buy AirPod max and iPod touch 7th gen

idle vigil
uncut canyon
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tricky tony does it again

velvet zenith
wheat oracle
velvet zenith
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They burned the normal macbook name years ago

wheat oracle
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They are already rich with other products

crimson fjord
frigid otter
winter meadow
summer wadi
crimson fjord
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It's the same product line

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It's the base budget macbook

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There's nothing different about it compared to the macbooks of yesteryear

shut jewel
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MacinJosh

wheat oracle
chrome peak
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well. neo means new. this is the new macbook, the successor to that crappy one from 2015

crimson fjord
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I mean hell it even kinda looks like the old ones

signal hazel
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i guessed neo cos neon

idle vigil
crimson fjord
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Ngl the funny part of this is actually how tough of a sale it makes the air seem

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the air is 1.7k here

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thats a 1k jump

teal bramble
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Rank
66/520845

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im no longer rank 67y

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im so sads

chrome peak
crimson fjord
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i mean yes you get an actually competent machine for that price

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but regular people won't know

summer wadi
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mf apple sold M3 MacBook pros with 8GB ram in 2025!!!

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so this isn't that bad tbh

idle vigil
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Who here has an Apple Card?

untold helm
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I noticed apple made it look kinda budget too

summer wadi
untold helm
idle vigil
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Apple was literally treating RAM like gold before all of this chicanery.

uncut canyon
crimson fjord
crimson fjord
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It's the fact that they already made the move to 16gb

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And now have backtracked

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8gb is unacceptable

frigid otter
crimson fjord
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it was before

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it still is

uncut canyon
summer wadi
crimson fjord
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it's not even close to enough

chrome peak
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apple is a small company, they can't afford 16gb. give them some slack!

idle vigil
ruby umbra
crimson fjord
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again i am really struggling to see what your point is

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it's unacceptable full stop

summer wadi
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some dumb photography mfs bought 4TB M3 MacBook Pros with 8GB ram

uncut canyon
crimson fjord
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it doesn't matter if the machine cost 10k

idle vigil
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Actually maybe they should have given it 10 gigs of RAM.

crimson fjord
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or 700

fossil rapids
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Neo is a laptop for the sake of having a laptop

chrome peak
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thing is, does the A18 pro even support 16gb? i am asking in good faith

idle vigil
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Just to annoy you.

crimson fjord
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it's unacceptable

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12gb is the bare minimum

summer wadi
arctic field
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Hmmm guys is there a gir command for all the default repos

winter meadow
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Photoshop won’t take more than 8

idle vigil
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Does macOS even need more than 8 gigs of memory?

crimson fjord
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it's going to perform like shit now

frigid otter
chrome peak
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seemingly it doesn't support it, no

crimson fjord
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and it's going to perform even worse in 2 years time

uncut canyon
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i ran (walked) deadlock on a laptop with 4gb physical without disk swapping

crimson fjord
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it's shelf life will be nothing

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it's literally a repeat 2015 macbook

slim nova
summer wadi
summer wadi
idle vigil
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Well my current MacBook says “A1278” underneath.

frigid otter
idle vigil
slim nova
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hell fucking naw

idle vigil
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AI isn’t very useful (to me).

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Or anyone for that matter.

uncut canyon
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mmmmmmm……… a12

slim nova
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Apple intelligence sucjs

crimson fjord
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minus the education market

untold helm
crimson fjord
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then again

arctic field
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Guys why tf is thebigboss repo not in the /repo

crimson fjord
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i don't see why you wouldn't just get chrombooks

untold helm
crimson fjord
untold helm
frigid otter
summer wadi
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AI is so useful, that companies like apple and microsoft have to shove it into our faces. "yes, copilot has 100M users, definitely not because we shoved that turd into the taskbar of our OS"

crimson fjord
untold helm
idle vigil
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My MacBook is not charging, anyone know why?

crimson fjord
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schools don't give a shit

idle vigil
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I don think it is the cable.

crimson fjord
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schools used to buy base macbooks

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chromebooks came along

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they dumped the macbooks and bought up all the chromebooks

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why

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they're easy to manage

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they're cheap to replace

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kids handle them like shit

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no school is giving their kids macbook neo's

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ts ridiculous

idle vigil
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This is the most I have talked here since ever.

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What are they going to reveal next for us to talk about what incremental upgrades would have made it a buy?

crimson fjord
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in my opinion there is 2 cool things about the macbook neo and 1 very very fatal flaw

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1 it has cool colours

summer wadi
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it's definitely not for schools

crimson fjord
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2 it's cool to finally see apple admit macos can and should run on a series chips

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the fatal flaw

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it's an absolutely atrocious deal

idle vigil
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I need to write a report, or an essay, & I want to watch movies.

summer wadi
idle vigil
crimson fjord
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No

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Because of the base m1 macbook air

idle vigil
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That isn’t what I said-

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Ohh.

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Right.

crimson fjord
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Which regularly sells between 300-350 usd and is quite literally the same laptop

idle vigil
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Hold on.

crimson fjord
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and base m1 airs are ALREADY slow

summer wadi
idle vigil
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Oh wow, $324 on eBay.

idle vigil
crimson fjord
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yeah how do you expect the neo to do any better

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it's the same freaking hardware

crimson fjord
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they benchmark nearly identically and they have nearly identical specs

idle vigil
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I am waiting for the Steam Machine.

untold helm
summer wadi
frigid otter
crimson fjord
idle vigil
crimson fjord
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the neo should be dumped at the same time as the m1 air

summer wadi
crimson fjord
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because they are the same laptop

idle vigil
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It plays PUBG: Mobile.

summer wadi
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coz intel is dead

frigid otter
half compass
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i should get a macbook neo

crimson fjord
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updated how

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in what way

half compass
summer wadi
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I'd sell my bussy to Tim for a MacBook neo with 16GB ram

crimson fjord
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a18 and m1 literally benchmark within 2% of each other

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give me a break

untold helm
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They should of had 12Gb of ram

frigid otter
crimson fjord
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newer components is bullshit

untold helm
crimson fjord
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yeah it's margin of error

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it's reused scrap

summer wadi
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wait, it has apple intelligence

crimson fjord
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older keyboards probably from m2 airs, hell they fucking cheaped out on touch id and make you get 512 for that

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it's much thicker than the m1 air yet doesn't come with cooling as far as i'm aware

graceful granite
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600 dollars is 515 euros, why does the new macbook cost 700 euros

carmine elk
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js gimme my virtual jailbroken iporn 16

frigid otter
crimson fjord
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it's IO is LITERALLY the same thing

crimson fjord
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it's like the 17e

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it has no market

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nobody should buy it

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there is a better option in every single case

frigid otter
summer wadi
untold helm
summer wadi
carmine elk
crimson fjord
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schools will continue to buy chromebooks

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tiktok girls are idiots and they're pretty irrelevant to the argument

quaint ginkgo
steep belfry
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i get a cortisol spike every time aaron posts that shit

crimson fjord
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its not even in the same price bracket

carmine elk
crimson fjord
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it's literally double the cost

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also

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chromebooks are built to be treated like shit

untold helm
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Well it depends on the cost of the Chromebooks

crimson fjord
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you look at the macbook neo and tell me the same

summer wadi
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bro imagine if the 17e had dynamic island, and the MacBook neo had 16G ram

quaint ginkgo
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An m2 air or hell even m1 mbp is a much much better value. You get a flagship design with a better chip and a better battery with both

summer wadi
untold helm
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And I feel they are targeting the ones that use shitty min spec windows 11 laptops

crimson fjord
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chromebooks are designed with the idea that they're cheap to replace, cheap to maintain, cheap to manage and monitor and cheap to buy

carmine elk
crimson fjord
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who cares

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the school doesn;'t

frigid otter
crimson fjord
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the other final nail in the coffin

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schools love chromeos

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its piss easy to lock down

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you can't do shit on it

frigid otter
carmine elk
crimson fjord
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uh

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not even close

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it's not even in the same ballpark

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chromeos is an os designed from the ground up to be as easy and pleasant to mass lock down and control as possible

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it's basically it's sole purpose

frigid otter
crimson fjord
crimson fjord
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and that's all schools need it to do

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web browsing

teal bramble
slim nova
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Won’t the MacBook neo be an iPad competition

teal bramble
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and shipping and stuff

crimson fjord
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oh thats the other thing

summer wadi
uncut canyon
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apple freedom leitmotif

crimson fjord
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the ipad has it outclassed in EVERY manner

summer wadi
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have you seen how much magic keyboards cost?

slim nova
slim nova
crimson fjord
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again

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who's the target market

summer wadi
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the magic keyboard is probably more expensive than the neo

uncut canyon
crimson fjord
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the target market does not give a shit about macos

slim nova
uncut canyon
untold helm
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U would be mocked if you brung a iPad as your laptop

summer wadi
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my bussy got wet when I saw the price. but then I realised it has 8GB of ram

slim nova
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I mean macOS on an iPad Pro would server better

manic lichen
crimson fjord
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also

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the ipad is cheaper

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much cheaper

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$100 aud cheaper

untold helm
crimson fjord
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which is 70 usd cheaper

summer wadi
frigid otter
crimson fjord
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why do you need a keyboard

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who says you need a keyboard

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the ipad is perfectly usable without one

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hell

manic lichen
crimson fjord
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most people i see at my lectures don't even have one

untold helm
frigid otter
summer wadi
untold helm
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For like making slideshows n shit you kinda want a keyboard

crimson fjord
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most people i know at my university have an ipad which they use as a computer without a keyboard

frigid otter
slim nova
ocean elk
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yo

crimson fjord
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no i dont mean ipad air

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i mean the base ipad

ocean elk
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i wanna bag fine shyt

slim nova
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God damn it the new MacBook neo looks really cool

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Shits even cheaper than the iPad Pro

crimson fjord
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of course it's cheaper than the ipad pro

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it's an inferior product

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by a country mile

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it's not even remotely close

slim nova
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(macOS)

crimson fjord
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macos is really not all it's cracked up to be at that price

velvet imp
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it's an ipad but its not locked down

slim nova
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I could run more apps on that shit

manic lichen
terse dome
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why does a macbook get an a series chip

summer wadi
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anyone here own a 8gb ram Mac?

terse dome
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and a ipad, a m series

crimson fjord
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the ipad pro has a tandem oled 120hz screen and an m5 chipset

terse dome
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this makes no sense

terse dome
crimson fjord
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which litreally destroys the neo in every single way

slim nova
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wtf is apple doing

terse dome
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@teal bramble stop sobbing this is my old laptop

slim nova
terse dome
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obv i have a better one

crimson fjord
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who gives a shit slap a bigger battery on it

manic lichen
frigid otter
crimson fjord
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it's a much better product

summer wadi
crimson fjord
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look you won't have fun

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it'll do the job

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i'd recommend a base m1

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strongly

summer wadi
terse dome
crimson fjord
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very very strongly

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i truly don't know why you'd go for the neo

manic lichen
crimson fjord
summer wadi
crimson fjord
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i'm sorry what

slim nova
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Does MacBook Air have an 13 inch

crimson fjord
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the base m1 regularly sells for 300-350

terse dome
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@summer wadi honestly though get a used m1 pro or something it'd be much better

frigid otter
crimson fjord
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price is literally the m1 air's strongest point

terse dome
manic lichen
crimson fjord
slim nova
summer wadi
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I don't wanna get scammed

frigid otter
terse dome
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@crimson fjord @ruby copper they had to pad the specs page with preinstalled apps 💀 💀

crimson fjord
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it's half the price

slim nova
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MacBook neo seems like an overpriced type writer compared with the air

crimson fjord
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it's $300 cheaper

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I'm so confused

terse dome
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still cheap

manic lichen
# slim nova Why dont you go for an m2 MacBook Air
summer wadi
frigid otter
summer wadi
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touchbar M2 MBP with 16GB ram seems cool ngl

crimson fjord
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hell even in australia you can get a base m1 air for $400 usd

terse dome
summer wadi
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but Neo has cool colours

crimson fjord
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which is $250 less than the EDUCATION mac

frigid otter
crimson fjord
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it's such an awful deal

slim nova
terse dome
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@crimson fjord yo surely you've got reputable sources in sydney

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give them to bro

teal bramble
summer wadi
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I can't seem to find any

crimson fjord
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i'm based in canberra

chrome peak
old mist
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is the neo worth it?

terse dome
summer wadi
crimson fjord
terse dome
old mist
chrome peak
crimson fjord
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$430 usd

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go nuts

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it's a far better deal

simple drift
summer wadi
slim nova
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refurbished 13-inch MacBook Air M2 for $629.00 only 129 dollars more than the neo with series chip

summer wadi
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I need at least 16

crimson fjord
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you were considering the neo

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don't get the neo

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get an m1 air

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it's the same machine

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but half the price

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if you want more ram

simple drift
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m1 air goat laptop

crimson fjord
#

get an actually competent
machine

chrome peak
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does anyone remember this fuckass thing

slim nova
simple drift
crimson fjord
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the m1 air is completely incompetent and so is the neo

simple drift
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to a pro

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idk if i’ll get a m2 pro or m4

slim nova
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i thoguht the neo had around 16 gbs of ram atleast

crimson fjord
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if you absolutely need a macbook with 16gb rn

slim nova
crimson fjord
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i can only recommend 1

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the m1 pro

simple drift
crimson fjord
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the m1 air is a pile of dogshit

slim nova
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m4 basically has the same performance as m2 pro

simple drift
simple drift
summer wadi
slim nova
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but unified memory and stuf

crimson fjord
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8gb ram on tahoe is nigh unusable

slim nova
frigid otter
crimson fjord
terse dome
crimson fjord
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whats it amazing at

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m1 pro

old mist
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should i get the neo for school bc rn i use my gaming laptop and it dies in an hour and its loud as fuck sometimes so i have to restart my whole laptop to reset its fans

terse dome
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perhaps

crimson fjord
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the m1 mbp is literally daylight robbery

untold helm
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@crimson fjord look at the launch trailer apple posted, yeah re-explained everything about macs

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It’s targeted towards students

crimson fjord
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yk what the market is

fossil rapids
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Neo is effectively an ewaste because of the ram if not now then in a year

crimson fjord
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it's uni students who just want a mac that they don't have to think about

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ppl who will walk into the apple store

terse dome
crimson fjord
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ask the employee "whats the cheapest mac"

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and buy that

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but schools will not be falling for this shit

chrome peak
crimson fjord
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schools are looking to minimise costs

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at every point

terse dome
exotic thistle
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we love chromebooks

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my fav brand of ewaste

fossil rapids
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who spends $599 on a chromebook?

crimson fjord
chrome peak
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my desktop is messy as shit so im a bit shy to like, show icons. but yeah

silver scaffold
frigid otter
crimson fjord
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the chromebook is a schools wet dream

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the neo is a schools nightmare

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chromebooks are not a scam

fossil rapids
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Every school i went to used an iPad

crimson fjord
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they are a purposefully and carefully designed product

velvet imp
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best wallpaper is macos lion

crimson fjord
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they nearly perfectly fulfil their purpose

untold helm
crimson fjord
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are a minority

exotic thistle
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schools ive been to had windows laptops, ipads, or chromebooks

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all same district, but them mfs loved switching it up

signal hazel
uncut canyon
silver scaffold
fossil rapids
crimson fjord
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not for them

frigid otter
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YES THEY ARE! THINK MARK THINK

untold helm
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My school is a Chromebook school but has to have like 2 dedicated room full of AS iMacs because Chromebooks can’t run shit

crimson fjord
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they pay special prices

chrome peak
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i have a folder full of old mac wallpapers

uncut canyon
crimson fjord
#

chromebooks are designed to run like shit

velvet imp
terse dome
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iPhone 17e + MacBook Neo

crimson fjord
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oh god

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the wallet burning duo

fossil rapids
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I mean most students are just on chrome and using docs and cool math games.

velvet imp
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i thought 10.6 was lion

uncut canyon
slim nova
simple drift
velvet imp
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oops

uncut canyon
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i dunno which galaxy mountain lion was

slim nova
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is the entire selling point of macbook neo it’s colors

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keyboard themed colors

crimson fjord
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idiots will get 17e + neo
ppl who think about it for more than a second will get m1 air and a 14/15 pro

simple drift
uncut canyon
slim nova
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17e pink + neo pink

simple drift
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i’m constantly switching so i have like all macos wallpapers downloaded

slim nova
#

pinterest ahh setup

fossil rapids
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17e is at least better deal than the 16e

copper tendon
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Oh nice the MacBook neo has 8gb of ram

crimson fjord
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uh no not really

simple drift
crimson fjord
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it's just as bad

copper tendon
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So it’s just ewaste

simple drift
copper tendon
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Nope

crimson fjord
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the 15 pro is better in EVERY measurable margin

simple drift
#

wow

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that

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is bad

copper tendon
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You’re just stuck at 8gb

fossil rapids
#

it’s 8 gb even with the 512 gb + Touch ID upgrade

terse dome
simple drift
#

hopefully they do some magic and optimise macos for a18

crimson fjord
#

120hz screen better build quality better design slightly slower chipset better price

untold helm
copper tendon
#

The only thing you can upgrade is storage to 512gb

crimson fjord
#

you're forgetting

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you get the touch id sensor back with that!

copper tendon
simple drift
uncut canyon
copper tendon
#

No it doesn’t

crimson fjord
#

this is some straight bullshit

fossil rapids
#

chromeOS is bloated Linux

simple drift
velvet imp
#

does this mean we can run macos on the 16 pro now

simple drift
crimson fjord
#

i mean honestly

simple drift
crimson fjord
#

the sensor probably costs them $2

copper tendon
simple drift
#

someone find a nonui 16 pro

frigid otter
uncut canyon
#

ugh this laptop better get a linux port so i can go 3x memory size with zram

copper tendon
#

8gb of ram with no upgrade option is rough

fossil rapids
terse dome
velvet imp
#

hmmm i wonder who has an AI 16 pro

simple drift
#

realistically it’s only gonna be used in like schools and shit mainly

simple drift
terse dome
uncut canyon
#

works fine on my m1

uncut canyon
fossil rapids
#

graphics

uncut canyon
#

i run my m1 mac mini headless so i don’t get the real experience

fossil rapids
#

I mean it “works”

uncut canyon
#

uh no they had a vulkan implementation last i checked

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and we’re able to play a bunch of steam games via a whole stack of tools

fossil rapids
#

it’s working states but also macOS would give you double the performance

uncut canyon
#

yeah but none of the games lmaooo

copper tendon
fossil rapids
copper tendon
uncut canyon
#

FEX translation to run linux Steam, Proton to run windows games

untold helm
uncut canyon
copper tendon
#

Tahoe requires 16gb minimum

fossil rapids
#

Crossover uses proton tweaks, it’s not platform dependent

copper tendon
#

The upgrade to 512gb with Touch ID should have included an extra 4gb of ram

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At a BARE minimum make it 12gb

fossil rapids
#

You can manually do it as well but crossover makes it easier

untold helm
terse dome
#

the "consumer" here pulls some weight

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the DTK:

slim nova
copper tendon
simple drift
terse dome
uncut canyon
#

i haven’t even heard the crossover project do anything in the last like 5 years besides sponsoring wine and having their own “user friendly” fork or whatever

fossil rapids
#

That’s the point, they only sponsor and macOS optimizations

uncut canyon
#

screw macOS

fossil rapids
#

Wine and proton are platform agnostic

untold helm
slim nova
#

neo is prolly gonna run macOS air or something

uncut canyon
somber totem
#

the neo has no charger in the box

fossil rapids
untold helm
fossil rapids
#

does wine work through WSL?

uncut canyon
#

of course

copper tendon
uncut canyon
#

wsl is just hypervised linux

crimson fjord
#

m and a series chips are the same line

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they're the same core design

somber totem
#

go to the product purchase page of the neo

uncut canyon
#

but also wine runs on any OS that can compile it so… i guess it’s technically possible on windows? i’m sure it wouldn’t actually work cuz it’d clash with actual windows or smth

fossil rapids
#

the dev kit Mac mini before m1 was also a series A12Z I think

uncut canyon
#

i wanna try that lol

somber totem
#

it's only the laptop and cable. no charger or stickers in sight

graceful granite
teal bramble
untold helm
terse dome
untold helm
#

Power adapter as the cube

somber totem
# untold helm

I just checked and it's actually just specific regions that have the 20W charger

ocean elk
#

i wanna bag fine shyt

uncut canyon
# untold helm

i’d be surprised if they didn’t include it actually
i don’t think you can just use any old charger for most laptops

mighty bronze
#

Guy's huge news iOS 26.3 jailbreak dropping tomorrow

somber totem
#

Europe (or probably just poland) ont have the charger

fossil rapids
#

EU and UK don’t get a charger because EU laws say there needs to be an sku without a charger so they just removed it entirely

desert cairn
fossil rapids
desert cairn
#

fr

desert cairn
velvet imp
desert cairn
#

i mean yeah

compact cobalt
#

The Neo is cool but it’s too expensive in Canada for anything above the base spec

desert cairn
#

m1 was a glorified iphone 12 pro

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it started to diverge more after m2 tbh

uncut canyon
#

WE’LL HAVE NEO APPS, NEO SITES, NEO COLORS !!!

somber totem
#

I wonder why won't they just give us Europeans an option to get the charger for like 20 euros more instead of forcing us tu inconveniently buy the charger separately.

slim nova
#

and neo na

untold helm
#

macOS Lite

terse dome
#

@desert cairn there is a Potential for the neo's display to be a cut down ipad air m4 display without the digitizer...

uncut canyon
#

[[Hyperlink blocked.]]

slim nova
fossil rapids
#

so as everyone already said iPad without detachable keyboard running macOS

teal bramble
uncut canyon
teal bramble
#

❤️‍🩹

desert cairn
compact cobalt
#

The Neo looks like something Apple would’ve released in the late 2000s, early 2010s

desert cairn
#

i think they just want to take over the chromebook market

compact cobalt
somber totem
#

The A18 pro compares mostly to the M1 and M2 so basically we are getting a macbook Air M1 with a yellow color and a new walpaper that spells mac if you really focus

compact cobalt
terse dome
# untold helm Diff res and ppi

by cut down i mean cutting the pixels such that it's that trimmed resolution, the only question is how hard is it to change ppi

compact cobalt
#

It’s probably going to be the same sort of trackpad as the pre Retina MacBook Air or Pro

desert cairn
compact cobalt
#

How many cores does it have again?

desert cairn
#

faster than m3 in single core, slower than m4 in single core

desert cairn
#

idk if itll be the same

slim nova
#

isn’t a18 pro last years chip?

desert cairn
#

yeah

compact cobalt
#

Also, it’s a bit interesting to me (at least) that they opted to put the A18P over the A19P, I guess they’re doing that because it’s cheaper

desert cairn
#

its like an m4 in single core and an m1 in multi core

slim nova
#

mfs didn’t even bother putting a a19 pro

compact cobalt
slim nova
#

iphone 16 pro on steroids

desert cairn
#

in between m3 and m4 for single core basically

#

closer to m4

#

which is really good for an iphone chip

polar python
desert cairn
#

what the hell

desert cairn
#

thats a ddr4 cpu too

#

kind of insane

compact cobalt
#

I love my Xeon E5520

#

Inefficient piece of shit

slim nova
compact cobalt
#

Anyways power efficiency is woke

desert cairn
#

i should benchmark my xeon gold 6150

#

theres no good geekbench results for it at all

#

everyone is using like 2 cores

desert cairn
slim nova
#

ok that’s just sad

compact cobalt
#

The thing with my laptop is that the multi core is a good amount better than the M4, but weaker in single core by a bit

desert cairn
desert cairn
compact cobalt
slim nova
compact cobalt
slim nova
#

damn

compact cobalt
#

Server chips prioritize multi threaded performance over single core

desert cairn
#

^

slim nova
#

true

compact cobalt
#

(Not necessarily a bad thing, it’s really for servers)

desert cairn
#

its kind of crazy

slim nova
#

hopefully intel cooks something up with their latest thing

desert cairn
#

core ultra 9 285k vs m5 base

compact cobalt
#

it’s an Intel

slim nova
#

how bout amd

fossil rapids
#

Reddit likes the Neo, calling it “crazy value”

chilly bear
#

WHAT do you want

desert cairn
compact cobalt
#

what is even the latest AMD mobile chip

desert cairn
#

intel core ultra chips r really good

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i dont know

#

im comparing m5 with desktop chips because at this point they score the same or better

slim nova
desert cairn
#

obv they beat in multi core, they have more cores

fossil rapids
#

I think AMD because all cores are the same

compact cobalt
desert cairn
#

efficiency cores are a good thing actually

slim nova
compact cobalt
#

Mine has the efficiency core thing

desert cairn
#

its the year of the macos desktop

compact cobalt
#

Iirc the efficiency cores from AMD aren’t much slower though?

chilly bear
#

got banned in ranked for being too op

compact cobalt
desert cairn
#

theyre decent cores

#

beats most older cpus

compact cobalt
slim nova
#

i wonder what snapdragon is doing with their chips

desert cairn
#

nothing meaningful

fossil rapids
#

I run VMs and Linux containers and they are annoying to setup probably with efficiency cores

compact cobalt
#

What’s the point of e cores though? Is it because they’re easier to add to the chip on the fab?

desert cairn
desert cairn
#

instead of wasting cpu cycles for smaller tasks

#

you put them on the e cores

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and theyll finish slower but you still have your p cores

compact cobalt
#

I just wish Linux had a more intuitive way of managing that

desert cairn
#

you can pin processes to cores but it kind of just works automatically

fossil rapids
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wraith lance
desert cairn
#

the e cores in a modern core ultra chip are like the same as a 10th gen intel cpu

#

i dont know about amd or apple

fossil rapids
#

I haven’t looked into it in a few years

desert cairn
#

but like m1 is 4p4e and you dont even notice the e cores are being used

fossil rapids
desert cairn
#

im not 100% sure how that works

slim nova
desert cairn
#

ok apparently the hypervisors just handle it transparently

#

no

#

theyre slower and clocked lower thats the whole point

fossil rapids
#

I guess it’s fine now

desert cairn
#

yeah

slim nova
#

is that the new panther lake?

neon jay
#

oo

desert cairn
#

like i said im pretty sure the e cores in core ultra 200 are comparable to like 10th/11th gen intel

neon jay
#

uh

#

i got timed out for saying an emoji 3 times.

desert cairn
#

so theyre completely fine

neon jay
#

for a week

desert cairn
#

you couldve dm'd modmail

neon jay
#

but i got un timed out in a day

wraith lance
compact cobalt
#

Ok the Neo reminds me a lot of the 2008 aluminum MacBook

slim nova
fossil rapids
#

If it were A18 Pro with 16 GB ram in the shell of an M1 air, would it eat into M5 air sales?

desert cairn
#

yes

#

thats why its 8gb

slim nova
#

what’s the point of neo

fossil rapids
#

Force upgrade to M5 Air

#

They need a stepping stool

desert cairn
#

probably

slim nova
#

atleast put an m series chip with 16 gigs of ram and corner cut else where

fossil rapids
#

I mean the cpu isn’t the issue, A18 Pro is powerful enough

slim nova
#

well

#

ram

fossil rapids
#

I want to see someone do benchmarks

compact cobalt
#

lmao

#

That is such a dumb limitation

untold helm
jaunty garnet
#

wasn’t usb 2 invented in 1998 or something

fossil rapids
#

Alex Ziskind is going to do LLM testing on Neo

harsh bolt
#

it looks to be more like an education focused laptop

#

so it's probably cheaper

slim nova
fossil rapids
#

“Just run safari”

slim nova
#

8 gigs of ram

#

wtf llm it gonna run

jaunty garnet
compact cobalt
#

This is the problem for Canada though

slim nova
#

it only runs olm

#

that’s it

fossil rapids
compact cobalt
#

And then where I live the price is closer to 920$ because of taxes

jaunty garnet
#

just windowserver is more than 1gb

terse dome
fossil rapids
#

You can cap it to 1 GB, it’ll run fine, just slower

copper tendon
#

Inb4 you have people asking how to iCloud bypass MacBook Neos from school

hard comet
#

nfr procrastinated a bug report and one of the bugs i found was fixed

#

fuck my fucking chungus life

jaunty garnet
#

because of the iPhone mirroring

copper tendon
#

How is that even possible

compact cobalt
#

Wait Neo only has 8 gigs of RAM right?

untold helm
#

Don’t worry apple ram is 2x pc ram or whatever the fuck the sheep say

copper tendon
compact cobalt
untold helm
#

500 under edu store

#

Same price as the m4 mini

fossil rapids
untold helm
fossil rapids
#

so you have to make 8 gb work like 16

copper tendon
#

According to Apple 8gb of ram on a Mac is basically the same as 16 on windows

compact cobalt
#

I’m just wondering how they managed to keep the price this low

hard comet
#

im such a redacted istg

slim nova
#

modding macbook neo and putting an m5 chip it in

copper tendon
#

Idk how that’s possible when the 8gb on macOS is shared

untold helm
#

12 would have been a good compromise

fossil rapids
#

4 gb for safari, 4 tabs and 4 gb for macOS

coarse wedge
#

yeah good fucking try apple im not falling on your tiny ass bullshit again

copper tendon
#

thats what i was saying

compact cobalt
copper tendon
#

12gb would have been good

slim nova
untold helm
coarse wedge
#

600$ for a fucking netbook sized ipad with a keyboard

copper tendon
#

at least on windows with your 8gb you have vram

coarse wedge
#

fuck you

#

that aint cheap

untold helm
copper tendon
#

tbf thats pretty cheap

compact cobalt
boreal tree
#

The security cameras of my house at Dubai aren’t working should I be worried

coarse wedge
untold helm
#

Still much better than a shitty Chromebook or windows laptop or the same price

copper tendon
#

$500 is cheap, but apple has to remember they have to support this new macbook neo for years to come

compact cobalt
#

Like one stick of 8GB DDR5 costs more than the entire fucking laptop

coarse wedge
#

i cant even scrape 200€ and they think this was cheap

slim nova
boreal tree
#

I need help

untold helm
copper tendon
#

shipping a brand new mac today with 8gb of ram. imagine how bad it'll be 3-4 years down the line

desert cairn
#

$500 for a whole ass laptop is fine actually

#

would i buy it? no

copper tendon
#

i mean its at a minimum getting what 5 years of updates?

compact cobalt
#

Bro’s living in CoD Ayatollah Warfare

coarse wedge
copper tendon
coarse wedge
#

macs are top but the neo is just shit

slim nova
#

or it all uses private cloud compute

compact cobalt
#

I wonder if the Neo is going to be updated yearly or if it’s going to be spread out more

flat mantle
#

hello

desert cairn
untold helm
desert cairn
#

the chromebook users wont care

#

its not m1 power its like in between m3 and m4

#

single core

slim nova
#

i wanna see blender on the neo

untold helm
#

It’s will be much much better then a Chromebook of the same price

copper tendon
#

8gb today?

coarse wedge
copper tendon
#

we already see how macos tahoe is with 8gb of ram so

untold helm
desert cairn
#

my ssd doesnt think its fine

desert cairn
#

it could be much worse

copper tendon
#

it will be much worse in 5 years lol

untold helm
compact cobalt
#

I wonder what kind of DAC they’re putting for the 3.5 adapter

hard comet
desert cairn
#

my poor ssd

#

its quite insane actually

coarse wedge
#

google needs to lock the FUCK in and fund development of more powerful and optimised arm based laptops

coarse wedge
desert cairn
#

but if i can do all of this on 8gb, a student can use google docs and chrome on 8gb just fine

copper tendon
untold helm
#

Are you serious

copper tendon
desert cairn
#

students and old people

copper tendon
#

bros already hitting 7gb of swap today

coarse wedge
#

chromebooks will still be widely used i see

desert cairn
#

and its working fine

copper tendon
#

imagine 5 years down the line with mbn

desert cairn
#

i also have a shit ton of stuff open

terse dome
#

The new @Apple MacBook Neo is powered by the A18 Pro, a mobile chip that is packaged using TSMC InFO-PoP. The DRAM sits on top of the SoC, it's a single, closed packaged. That's why the MBN comes with the same amount of 8GB DRAM as the iPhone 16 Pro. Same chip, same package.

desert cairn
#

macbook neo users arent using opencode and binja

#

theyre going to use google chrome to watch youtube and use google docs

terse dome
#

macbook neo users would use geforce now

raven pine
#

apple is really pushing these macs

copper tendon
terse dome
raven pine
terse dome
#

15 years?

raven pine
#

like they did with android on the 2g

terse dome
#

i think not very long until

desert cairn
#

lmao

raven pine
raven pine
#

oh shit is that native?