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macbook neo is available in pink and yellow.
spamton
so... how long can I expect it to go well? 5 years? maybe 3?
Oh, so they do want to sell it for $799.
bro it's the ram
THE FIELD OF PINK AND YELLOW.
tim cook needs to be kirked istg
Basically a affordable laptop for college students or what
yeah
Kinda wish they had 12Gb of ram
pretty much
Exactly
I agree
We put a headphone jack, bigger screen, & a keyboard on an iPad/iPhone.
if the upgraded model has 12gb i would be absolutely sold
bro they were selling 256gb MacBooks for 999 literally yesterday
but better since it runs an actual OS and not just chrome and android apps
- former cros user
yeah and it was unacceptable
i’m sorry but crostini was underwhelming
Plus M1 power
is 8GB even apple intelligence
Yes
it barely makes the cut
no 👍
barely
yeah
bro, another 4gb of ram would literally mean no worrying about swapping
it SHOULD have 12
it runs fine
macos swap isn't that bad
give it 4 updates
bro, imma kirk up tim cook myself
it'll be totally and utterly fucked
iWjj8(2(8ieeksllwI9
i think this chat is exactly who the target buyer base isn’t
it's literally just a base m1 air
What? Chromebooks can’t do anything AT ALL! This thing has a usable OS, and 8GB is not good, but at least it’s not 4 like some chromebooks
truth nuke
They think it’s for the video editors
the smaller the SSD, the lower the endurance. and TS comes with 256gb ram
it's an m1 air sequel
true! people who already own better macbooks
i am purely talking from hardware
I have similar opinions on the 17e.
You’re right to call me out on that. While I am using mannerisms typically associated with AI – I can assure you that I am a human 🙂
obviously chromeos is complete garbage
the touchid model comes with 512
i think you can install apks on chromeos
I don't wanna spend 1600 AUD for a new MacBook Air
this is exactly what a clanker would say
Wait a minute.
bro I need ram, not storage
Exactly, it’s for college students and people who want more of a web machine
though, i’ve done low scale FCPX video editing on an 8gb m1 and it’s not pure suffering
I still use a mechanical hard drive for my projects and data because I'm so paranoid about SSD endurance
I can't lie you're much much much better off buying a used m1 air off ebay
It is quite literally the same machine but cheaper
I literally use a ramdisk on my windows laptop for downloads
dude 😭
this is fair
@muted shuttle Get a job
If I trade in my iPad mini, I can buy the 512gb Neo for $449.
I mean the a18 pro and the m1 are similar anyways
Education store knocks off $100 off that
a18 pro is slightly better
Hi im waiting on a response from the job I applied for
It can play some weaker games.
like slightly
Anyways
this is what the ai look like
Some of these college kids don’t know anything about no 256gb
I don’t go to college.
I'm not joking, it serves me so well
unfortunately my $5000 macbook pro is only worth 1.7k to apple

Doesn’t matter
you need to enable dev mode for that
I don’t really think they even check
DM me the link?
but it is possible yeah
and since the new m5 pro is 4.9k for any kind of reasonable configuration i guess I won't be upgrading
Your a student
499 is crazy price
you're
Man my gaming laptop has a 512 SSD & I put a 512 GB micro SD card.
it really isn't
True
You're*
I r a student!!
499 is still piss poor
Yeah
macbook has no sd slot tho
If only they sold Mac neo for like $200
apple Australia doesn't even have financing...
they kinda do
you need an .edu email
what are you talking about lmao
i still can’t get over the fact they called it NEO
how could they possibly make a profit
I’m about to buy AirPod max and iPod touch 7th gen
I think I don’t need more than 512 gigs…on a MacBook.
tricky tony does it again
What do you want them to call it
Fuck profit do what your fans want from you
They burned the normal macbook name years ago
They are already rich with other products
"Macbook"
There’s no way.. It’s not a Chromebook. Competing with lower-mid range windows PC laptops
Do they require proof that ur a student?
because calling it just MacBook, like the old regular macbooks would be confusing. and calling it MacBook SE would change its meaning.
It's the same product line
It's the base budget macbook
There's nothing different about it compared to the macbooks of yesteryear
MacinJosh
Bro I got a 12GB RAM Desktop for free but it cost my dad $90
well. neo means new. this is the new macbook, the successor to that crappy one from 2015
I mean hell it even kinda looks like the old ones
i guessed neo cos neon
bro 😭
Make this man president of the discord.
Ngl the funny part of this is actually how tough of a sale it makes the air seem
the air is 1.7k here
thats a 1k jump
fym bro. im just saying
i mean yes you get an actually competent machine for that price
but regular people won't know
Who here has an Apple Card?
I noticed apple made it look kinda budget too
where are you, in the land of Oz?
Like the finish and keyboard matching
Apple was literally treating RAM like gold before all of this chicanery.
oh yeah no i know that
i mean, this is all one giant $600 deltarune reference
Uh, do you think people weren't complaining about it then?
$1,200
It's the fact that they already made the move to 16gb
And now have backtracked
8gb is unacceptable
Yeah, they did. I had to use my dad’s Mac mini base M1 2 years ago and I just couldn’t..
Not enough storage or ram💀 could barely use it for what I do with my old laptop
600 usd
bro they were like up to 3K machines.
it's not even close to enough
apple is a small company, they can't afford 16gb. give them some slack!
You have to buy both colors.
i just buy online and no proof of student. usually in person they will ask for student id
again i am really struggling to see what your point is
it's unacceptable full stop
some dumb photography mfs bought 4TB M3 MacBook Pros with 8GB ram
..right, right
it doesn't matter if the machine cost 10k
Actually maybe they should have given it 10 gigs of RAM.
or 700
Neo is a laptop for the sake of having a laptop
thing is, does the A18 pro even support 16gb? i am asking in good faith
Just to annoy you.
I see why
This is a good point.
Tim Cook is gay for doing this
Hmmm guys is there a gir command for all the default repos
Photoshop won’t take more than 8
Does macOS even need more than 8 gigs of memory?
it's going to perform like shit now
Probably not. Shouldn’ve used A19 Pro for 12gb ram
seemingly it doesn't support it, no
and it's going to perform even worse in 2 years time
i ran (walked) deadlock on a laptop with 4gb physical without disk swapping
does this include apple intelligence
it fucking swaps on idle, bro!!!
NO
Well my current MacBook says “A1278” underneath.
Something tells me this isn’t going to happen.
Does it matter?
hell fucking naw
mmmmmmm……… a12
Apple intelligence sucjs
i imagine the graphs will be extremely similar to the 2015 macbook sales
minus the education market
Chromebooks still have 4gb btw
then again
Guys why tf is thebigboss repo not in the /repo
i don't see why you wouldn't just get chrombooks
TikTok Girls getting it in pink:
uh yeah i haven't used a chromebook below 8gb in at least 3 years
Apple logo
Because they’re EWASTE!
AI is so useful, that companies like apple and microsoft have to shove it into our faces. "yes, copilot has 100M users, definitely not because we shoved that turd into the taskbar of our OS"
the main market here is schools
The ones they shit into the edu market are still
My MacBook is not charging, anyone know why?
schools don't give a shit
I don think it is the cable.
schools used to buy base macbooks
chromebooks came along
they dumped the macbooks and bought up all the chromebooks
why
they're easy to manage
they're cheap to replace
kids handle them like shit
no school is giving their kids macbook neo's
ts ridiculous
This is the most I have talked here since ever.
What are they going to reveal next for us to talk about what incremental upgrades would have made it a buy?
in my opinion there is 2 cool things about the macbook neo and 1 very very fatal flaw
1 it has cool colours
I don't think so bro
it's definitely not for schools
2 it's cool to finally see apple admit macos can and should run on a series chips
the fatal flaw
it's an absolutely atrocious deal
I need to write a report, or an essay, & I want to watch movies.
what an absurd world we live in: iPad Airs with M chips, Macbooks with A chips
Because of the iPad Air?
Which regularly sells between 300-350 usd and is quite literally the same laptop
Hold on.
and base m1 airs are ALREADY slow
bro ts is 6 years old. macOS 27 is probably the last OS it'll support.
Oh wow, $324 on eBay.
Oh no!
and no oclp bc arm64
they benchmark nearly identically and they have nearly identical specs
I am waiting for the Steam Machine.
Pink and some people don’t buy used for some reason
bro, fym OCLP
I love my iPad Air
better support wise
That’s cool, my Mini is just swell.
the neo should be dumped at the same time as the m1 air
OCLP will not support macOS 27 on any hardware
because they are the same laptop
It plays PUBG: Mobile.
coz intel is dead
It’s an updated M1 air
i should get a macbook neo
A18
I'd sell my bussy to Tim for a MacBook neo with 16GB ram
They should of had 12Gb of ram
A18, newer components, and support not ending in a year
newer components is bullshit
Margin of error
wait, it has apple intelligence
older keyboards probably from m2 airs, hell they fucking cheaped out on touch id and make you get 512 for that
it's much thicker than the m1 air yet doesn't come with cooling as far as i'm aware
600 dollars is 515 euros, why does the new macbook cost 700 euros
js gimme my virtual jailbroken iporn 16
Why are you even arguing about it? If your trashing on it, then it’s not made for you
it's IO is LITERALLY the same thing
i'm trashing on it because it's made for nobody
it's like the 17e
it has no market
nobody should buy it
there is a better option in every single case
17e sucks, yeah, but the Neo is a good idea
oh shit I was thinking of buying it
Schools and TikTok girls who want macs
if it had dynamic island I would
it has market and it’s called schools. The MacBook neo is a Chromebook alternative
schools will continue to buy chromebooks
tiktok girls are idiots and they're pretty irrelevant to the argument
A good idea poorly executed
i get a cortisol spike every time aaron posts that shit
but it isnt
its not even in the same price bracket
most schools are switching to apple products such as a16 iPads tho
it's literally double the cost
also
chromebooks are built to be treated like shit
Well it depends on the cost of the Chromebooks
you look at the macbook neo and tell me the same
bro imagine if the 17e had dynamic island, and the MacBook neo had 16G ram
An m2 air or hell even m1 mbp is a much much better value. You get a flagship design with a better chip and a better battery with both
I'd take Tim's big ol' curvy for them
And I feel they are targeting the ones that use shitty min spec windows 11 laptops
chromebooks are designed with the idea that they're cheap to replace, cheap to maintain, cheap to manage and monitor and cheap to buy
but chromebooks can barely even handle 2 chrome tabs
.
Well, places like my school uses $700 pieces of shit called HP fortis laptops, so for the same piece, a MacBook neo would work so much better
windows?
the other final nail in the coffin
schools love chromeos
its piss easy to lock down
you can't do shit on it
It has windows
@crimson fjord
so is macOS
uh
not even close
it's not even in the same ballpark
chromeos is an os designed from the ground up to be as easy and pleasant to mass lock down and control as possible
it's basically it's sole purpose
It was only made for web browsing
i'm talking at large here
yeah
and that's all schools need it to do
web browsing
true
ho lee shit
19% VAT in germany
Won’t the MacBook neo be an iPad competition
and shipping and stuff
oh thats the other thing
iPads are more expensive than the neo
apple freedom leitmotif
the ipad has it outclassed in EVERY manner
have you seen how much magic keyboards cost?
Yeah i know I’m rocking an iPad Pro
But it has macOS
the magic keyboard is probably more expensive than the neo
your mom
the target market does not give a shit about macos
Students
/gen
U would be mocked if you brung a iPad as your laptop
my bussy got wet when I saw the price. but then I realised it has 8GB of ram
I mean macOS on an iPad Pro would server better
but i don’t like windows 11 sooo
that's such a nothing point
also
the ipad is cheaper
much cheaper
$100 aud cheaper
Add Magic Keyboard
which is 70 usd cheaper
bro the keyboard is like 300 aud for the ipad
People who want to keep in the Mac ecosystem, but without paying $1000
why do you need a keyboard
who says you need a keyboard
the ipad is perfectly usable without one
hell
2 usb ports, magic trackpad, etc
most people i see at my lectures don't even have one
For school activities it’s not
Is a laptop, what your comparing it to?
bro wdym... how do you compare a MacBook with an iPad if the iPad don't have a keyboard
For like making slideshows n shit you kinda want a keyboard
most people i know at my university have an ipad which they use as a computer without a keyboard
EXACTLY, this guy makes no sense
You mean iPad Air
yo
i wanna bag fine shyt
💀
God damn it the new MacBook neo looks really cool
Shits even cheaper than the iPad Pro
of course it's cheaper than the ipad pro
it's an inferior product
by a country mile
it's not even remotely close
(macOS)
macos is really not all it's cracked up to be at that price
it's an ipad but its not locked down
I could run more apps on that shit
i like it too
but i want to see some videos testing before buying it
8gb of ram it’s so disgusting
it doesnt even have an m series chip
why does a macbook get an a series chip
8gb? Aw hell naw
anyone here own a 8gb ram Mac?
and a ipad, a m series
the ipad pro has a tandem oled 120hz screen and an m5 chipset
this makes no sense
i have a mba 2017
which litreally destroys the neo in every single way
wtf is apple doing
@teal bramble stop sobbing this is my old laptop
True but the iPad Pro is a battery eater
obv i have a better one
who gives a shit slap a bigger battery on it
yea it’s disgusting
Yeah, an I had to use it, M1 Mac mini base…
Took forever to export videos for my Video editing class
it's a much better product
bro do u think xcode will f ck me in the ahh if I get the MacBook neo with 8gb ram?
it will?
well you'd probably atleast have to close all other apps
price
price
is literally double???
I can do that. what I'm worried about is if it can be my development machine for the next 4 years...
i'm sorry what
Does MacBook Air have an 13 inch
the base m1 regularly sells for 300-350
@summer wadi honestly though get a used m1 pro or something it'd be much better
Wdym?
price is literally the m1 air's strongest point
well, as compared to latest
i just need the sims 4, minecraft and roblox running any good
okay sure but the neo and m1 air are the same machine
Why dont you go for an m2 MacBook Air
bro, FB marketplace listings in Sydney are mad sus.
I don't wanna get scammed
Well, it’s just a bit cheaper for older hardware, and less software support, and I Hope you understand
i'm sorry
a bit cheaper?
@crimson fjord @ruby copper they had to pad the specs page with preinstalled apps 💀 💀
it's half the price
MacBook neo seems like an overpriced type writer compared with the air
just get a new one from a reputable source then
still cheap
amazon in my country are selling m2 for like $2k
do u have any recommendations?
It’s used, and a lot of people don’t trust used laptops such like places as eBay.. I know I don’t
touchbar M2 MBP with 16GB ram seems cool ngl
hell even in australia you can get a base m1 air for $400 usd
idk what you consider reputable so you'd have to do some research on your own, im perfectly fine with buying from suspicious sources
but Neo has cool colours
which is $250 less than the EDUCATION mac
Good idea!
it's such an awful deal
paint
whats ur new one
where?? give me some links bro
I can't seem to find any
i'm based in canberra
ah they finally updated pages? is it just the icon or did it get a makeover
is the neo worth it?
close enough
No
idk bro i havent used it in a decade
fr? whats wrong with it
ah
just get a m1 air for 400
bro this is 8GB ram
refurbished 13-inch MacBook Air M2 for $629.00 only 129 dollars more than the neo with series chip
I need at least 16
no fucking shit
you were considering the neo
don't get the neo
get an m1 air
it's the same machine
but half the price
if you want more ram
m1 air goat laptop
get an actually competent
machine
does anyone remember this fuckass thing
goat
i will be upgrading soon
the m1 air is completely incompetent and so is the neo
i thoguht the neo had around 16 gbs of ram atleast
if you absolutely need a macbook with 16gb rn
m4,
the m1 air is good
the m1 air is a pile of dogshit
m4 basically has the same performance as m2 pro
yeah but it’s really expensive
son
hmm... I see
but unified memory and stuf
8gb ram on tahoe is nigh unusable
liquid glass (lite)
It’s amazing! M1 air is what you were just talking about
by what metric?
m1 mbp or m1 pro mbp
should i get the neo for school bc rn i use my gaming laptop and it dies in an hour and its loud as fuck sometimes so i have to restart my whole laptop to reset its fans
perhaps
the m1 mbp is literally daylight robbery
@crimson fjord look at the launch trailer apple posted, yeah re-explained everything about macs
It’s targeted towards students
yk what the market is
Neo is effectively an ewaste because of the ram if not now then in a year
it's uni students who just want a mac that they don't have to think about
ppl who will walk into the apple store
meanwhile my student ass wanting a m5 pro with 32 gb of ram and 1tb
ask the employee "whats the cheapest mac"
and buy that
but schools will not be falling for this shit
yooo same wallpaper
chromebook!
who spends $599 on a chromebook?
the chromebook and the neo will never compete
my desktop is messy as shit so im a bit shy to like, show icons. but yeah
It has a bigger battery than the neo 😭
Schools fell for the Chromebook scam, and the neo ain’t a scam
the chromebook is a schools wet dream
the neo is a schools nightmare
chromebooks are not a scam
Every school i went to used an iPad
they are a purposefully and carefully designed product
best wallpaper is macos lion
they nearly perfectly fulfil their purpose
Windows laptop schools
are a minority
schools ive been to had windows laptops, ipads, or chromebooks
all same district, but them mfs loved switching it up
they didn’t in my school
i personally prefer mavericks but lions is very very nice yes
The ones the schools are buying are way overpriced
Except elementary which had MacBook racks (I think schools got poorer over the years)
not for them
YES THEY ARE! THINK MARK THINK
its so good
My school is a Chromebook school but has to have like 2 dedicated room full of AS iMacs because Chromebooks can’t run shit
they pay special prices
i have a folder full of old mac wallpapers
…that’s snow leopard lol
chromebooks are designed to run like shit
oh is it
iPhone 17e + MacBook Neo
I mean most students are just on chrome and using docs and cool math games.
i thought 10.6 was lion
yeah leopard and snep were the comet
lion was andromeda galaxy
snow leopard
lion is 10.7
oops
i dunno which galaxy mountain lion was
idiots will get 17e + neo
ppl who think about it for more than a second will get m1 air and a 14/15 pro
goated
THE FIELD OF PINK AND YELLOW
17e pink + neo pink
i’m constantly switching so i have like all macos wallpapers downloaded
pinterest ahh setup
17e is at least better deal than the 16e
Oh nice the MacBook neo has 8gb of ram
uh no not really
still would rather buy a 15 pro
it's just as bad
So it’s just ewaste
can you not upgrade it at all
Nope
the 15 pro is better in EVERY measurable margin
You’re just stuck at 8gb
it’s 8 gb even with the 512 gb + Touch ID upgrade
no it's like literally designed to be a base ipad with non detachable keyboard
hopefully they do some magic and optimise macos for a18
120hz screen better build quality better design slightly slower chipset better price
Some chromebooks have 4
But you get macOS
no shit
The only thing you can upgrade is storage to 512gb
oh no
you're forgetting
you get the touch id sensor back with that!
ChromeOS is not nearly as heavy as MacOS Tahoe lol
does the base not have touch id??
they do that already no?
No it doesn’t
this is some straight bullshit
chromeOS is bloated Linux
it runs real bad on 8gb of ram
does this mean we can run macos on the 16 pro now
insane
i mean honestly
that’s what i’m thinking
the sensor probably costs them $2
Someone will attempt it
someone find a nonui 16 pro
That sounds fun
ugh this laptop better get a linux port so i can go 3x memory size with zram
8gb of ram with no upgrade option is rough
Not even m1 air has full compatibility yet
R&D probably costs them more, no A18 Pro device before the neo uses Touch ID
hmmm i wonder who has an AI 16 pro
realistically it’s only gonna be used in like schools and shit mainly
what
im sure some chinese companies will think of a way
works fine on my m1
wait what’s missing
graphics
i run my m1 mac mini headless so i don’t get the real experience
I mean it “works”
uh no they had a vulkan implementation last i checked
and we’re able to play a bunch of steam games via a whole stack of tools
it’s working states but also macOS would give you double the performance
yeah but none of the games lmaooo
I wanna see some Chinese company put an 8tb ssd and 128gb of ram in that bitch
it’s same as Linux because arm, crossover uses wine
the most powerful ewaste

mmmmm no not here
FEX translation to run linux Steam, Proton to run windows games
Doesn’t stop ChromeOS using all 4gb at idle
Tahoe requires 16gb minimum
Crossover uses proton tweaks, it’s not platform dependent
The upgrade to 512gb with Touch ID should have included an extra 4gb of ram
At a BARE minimum make it 12gb
You can manually do it as well but crossover makes it easier
Not anymore
classic chrome behavior
Just because Apple allows it to run on 8gb doesn’t mean it will run well
someone must port big sur to the the neo
big neo
i haven’t even heard the crossover project do anything in the last like 5 years besides sponsoring wine and having their own “user friendly” fork or whatever
That’s the point, they only sponsor and macOS optimizations
screw macOS
Wine and proton are platform agnostic
Run proton on windows
neo is prolly gonna run macOS air or something
technically possible
the neo has no charger in the box
Ok well, not that but running proton on windows is pointless
20w charger
does wine work through WSL?
of course
False
wsl is just hypervised linux
it's reused tech
m and a series chips are the same line
they're the same core design
The charger is sold separately
go to the product purchase page of the neo
but also wine runs on any OS that can compile it so… i guess it’s technically possible on windows? i’m sure it wouldn’t actually work cuz it’d clash with actual windows or smth
the dev kit Mac mini before m1 was also a series A12Z I think
i wanna try that lol
it's only the laptop and cable. no charger or stickers in sight
515*1,19 = 612,85
yes, the DTK
and like more taxes that lead up to 699 eur
hey your tax euros make sure the Deutsche Bahn runs consistent(ly late)
Power adapter as the cube
I just checked and it's actually just specific regions that have the 20W charger
i wanna bag fine shyt
i’d be surprised if they didn’t include it actually
i don’t think you can just use any old charger for most laptops
Guy's huge news iOS 26.3 jailbreak dropping tomorrow
Europe (or probably just poland) ont have the charger
EU and UK don’t get a charger because EU laws say there needs to be an sku without a charger so they just removed it entirely
glorified iphone charger
Like most apple products
tf is an SKU
AS so requires like no power
Brexit: none of the benefits, all of the disadvantages
fr
product id basically
it is an iphone
i mean yeah
The Neo is cool but it’s too expensive in Canada for anything above the base spec
WE’LL HAVE NEO APPS, NEO SITES, NEO COLORS !!!
I wonder why won't they just give us Europeans an option to get the charger for like 20 euros more instead of forcing us tu inconveniently buy the charger separately.
and neo na
macOS Lite
@desert cairn there is a Potential for the neo's display to be a cut down ipad air m4 display without the digitizer...
[[Hyperlink blocked.]]
i believe it
liquid glass lite
so as everyone already said iPad without detachable keyboard running macOS
w joke w reference w u
tvOS on gen4
❤️🩹
i mean i think that was their goal
Diff res and ppi
The Neo looks like something Apple would’ve released in the late 2000s, early 2010s
12in MacBook
i think they just want to take over the chromebook market
Even like the polycarbonate MacBooks (in spirit)
The A18 pro compares mostly to the M1 and M2 so basically we are getting a macbook Air M1 with a yellow color and a new walpaper that spells mac if you really focus
The trackpad is also worse btw
by cut down i mean cutting the pixels such that it's that trimmed resolution, the only question is how hard is it to change ppi
It’s probably going to be the same sort of trackpad as the pre Retina MacBook Air or Pro
seems to compare with m4 with less cores
How many cores does it have again?
faster than m3 in single core, slower than m4 in single core
a18 pro from the iphone has 6
idk if itll be the same
isn’t a18 pro last years chip?
yeah
Also, it’s a bit interesting to me (at least) that they opted to put the A18P over the A19P, I guess they’re doing that because it’s cheaper
its like an m4 in single core and an m1 in multi core
mfs didn’t even bother putting a a19 pro
M4 single core is insane
iphone 16 pro on steroids
in between m3 and m4 for single core basically
closer to m4
which is really good for an iphone chip
what the hell
FUCK hetzner
how much did m4 score
Anyways power efficiency is woke
i should benchmark my xeon gold 6150
theres no good geekbench results for it at all
everyone is using like 2 cores
ok that’s just sad
The thing with my laptop is that the multi core is a good amount better than the M4, but weaker in single core by a bit
but its a server cpu from 2014
apple chips are insanely good in single core
4 Zen 5, 4 Zen 5c cores in that thing
does the m4 compare with server grade cpus from the big 25 single core
True
Most likely?
damn
Server chips prioritize multi threaded performance over single core
^
true
(Not necessarily a bad thing, it’s really for servers)
its kind of crazy
hopefully intel cooks something up with their latest thing
core ultra 9 285k vs m5 base
Reddit likes the Neo, calling it “crazy value”
WHAT do you want
its all the same shit
what is even the latest AMD mobile chip
intel core ultra chips r really good
i dont know
im comparing m5 with desktop chips because at this point they score the same or better
shitty multicore always failing chip or something
obv they beat in multi core, they have more cores
I think AMD because all cores are the same
Not on mobile
efficiency cores are a good thing actually
but only by a slight margin which is crazy
Mine has the efficiency core thing
its the year of the macos desktop
Iirc the efficiency cores from AMD aren’t much slower though?
got banned in ranked for being too op
They have less cache though
nah same w intel
theyre decent cores
beats most older cpus
Oh alright
i wonder what snapdragon is doing with their chips
nothing meaningful
I run VMs and Linux containers and they are annoying to setup probably with efficiency cores
What’s the point of e cores though? Is it because they’re easier to add to the chip on the fab?
it just kind of works in linux i think
it lets you make use of your p cores more sort of
instead of wasting cpu cycles for smaller tasks
you put them on the e cores
and theyll finish slower but you still have your p cores
I just wish Linux had a more intuitive way of managing that
you can pin processes to cores but it kind of just works automatically
It’s slower so the actual usable cores are only the p cores
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the e cores in a modern core ultra chip are like the same as a 10th gen intel cpu
i dont know about amd or apple
I haven’t looked into it in a few years
but like m1 is 4p4e and you dont even notice the e cores are being used
I mean this mostly for VM and stuff, i dont think it matters in day to day
im not 100% sure how that works
Playing a video
so the e cores are as fast as the p cores?
ok apparently the hypervisors just handle it transparently
no
theyre slower and clocked lower thats the whole point
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-P-State-Disable-E-Fix
when I was looking at it few years ago, there were bugs so ultimately decided against it
I guess it’s fine now
yeah
is that the new panther lake?
oo
like i said im pretty sure the e cores in core ultra 200 are comparable to like 10th/11th gen intel
so theyre completely fine
for a week
you couldve dm'd modmail
but i got un timed out in a day
oh yeah, just noticed his hand movement's doesn't align with the privacy screen
Ok the Neo reminds me a lot of the 2008 aluminum MacBook
but with lot less value
If it were A18 Pro with 16 GB ram in the shell of an M1 air, would it eat into M5 air sales?
what’s the point of neo
to try and take over the chromebook and cheap laptop market
probably
atleast put an m series chip with 16 gigs of ram and corner cut else where
I mean the cpu isn’t the issue, A18 Pro is powerful enough
I want to see someone do benchmarks
MacBook Neo looks like a great low-spec Mac—but limitations abound. Most egregious is the two USB-C ports, as reported by MacRumors, are USB 3.0 (10 Gbps), and USB 2.0 (480 Mbps).
Both support charging, but only the USB 3.0 port supports DisplayPort!
lmao
That is such a dumb limitation
USB 2 in the big 26
wasn’t usb 2 invented in 1998 or something
Alex Ziskind is going to do LLM testing on Neo
Makes sense tbh
it looks to be more like an education focused laptop
so it's probably cheaper
it ain’t gonna run shit
“Just run safari”
600m model
This is the problem for Canada though
You can get ~90% usable memory out of the 8 gb, if you run nothing else in the background so 7 gb model can fit
And then where I live the price is closer to 920$ because of taxes
OS uses way more than 1gb
just windowserver is more than 1gb
wtf apple taking apr
You can cap it to 1 GB, it’ll run fine, just slower
Inb4 you have people asking how to iCloud bypass MacBook Neos from school
nfr procrastinated a bug report and one of the bugs i found was fixed
fuck my fucking chungus life
my school is literally banning MacBooks this spring
because of the iPhone mirroring
How is that even possible
Wait Neo only has 8 gigs of RAM right?
Don’t worry apple ram is 2x pc ram or whatever the fuck the sheep say
Yes
Surprised it doesn’t cost 30 000…
ram on the pc side is also expensive right now
Overall it is
According to Apple 8gb of ram on a Mac is basically the same as 16 on windows
I’m just wondering how they managed to keep the price this low
im such a redacted istg
modding macbook neo and putting an m5 chip it in
Idk how that’s possible when the 8gb on macOS is shared
12 would have been a good compromise
4 gb for safari, 4 tabs and 4 gb for macOS
yeah good fucking try apple im not falling on your tiny ass bullshit again
thats what i was saying
Isn’t it closer to like 6 GB because of the GPU when doing anything intensive
12gb would have been good
insane optimization would need to be made
yea i mean its shared lol
Excess iPhone 16 pro chips, no True Tone, no thunderbolt, no backlit keyboard
600$ for a fucking netbook sized ipad with a keyboard
at least on windows with your 8gb you have vram
$500 with edu store
tbf thats pretty cheap
I mean in terms of the RAM
The security cameras of my house at Dubai aren’t working should I be worried
whatever i dont give a fuck
Still much better than a shitty Chromebook or windows laptop or the same price
$500 is cheap, but apple has to remember they have to support this new macbook neo for years to come
Like one stick of 8GB DDR5 costs more than the entire fucking laptop
i cant even scrape 200€ and they think this was cheap
not a great place to ask for these kind of advice
I need help
Oh Dubai
A iPad costs 350
shipping a brand new mac today with 8gb of ram. imagine how bad it'll be 3-4 years down the line
i mean its at a minimum getting what 5 years of updates?
Bro’s living in CoD Ayatollah Warfare
limited firmware and hardware
it's gonna get bad once you get into year 5 of the software updates though
maybe it has no ai features?
macs are top but the neo is just shit
or it all uses private cloud compute
I wonder if the Neo is going to be updated yearly or if it’s going to be spread out more
hello
im on year 5 of updates for my m1 8gb and its >fine
~M1 power and it’s targeted towards students
the chromebook users wont care
its not m1 power its like in between m3 and m4
single core
i wanna see blender on the neo
It’s will be much much better then a Chromebook of the same price
8gb 5 years ago was fine
8gb today?
still five hundred FUCKING DOLLARS
we already see how macos tahoe is with 8gb of ram so
Which it’s the main competitor
my ssd doesnt think its fine
its really not that bad
it could be much worse
it will be much worse in 5 years lol
How much was it supposed to cost?
I wonder what kind of DAC they’re putting for the 3.5 adapter
also 8gb m1 here, its ok but has gotten noticibly slower, will upgrade to the redesigned m6 macs probably
google needs to lock the FUCK in and fund development of more powerful and optimised arm based laptops
200
but if i can do all of this on 8gb, a student can use google docs and chrome on 8gb just fine
this is rough
not just students will be buying it
students and old people
bros already hitting 7gb of swap today
chromebooks will still be widely used i see
and its working fine
imagine 5 years down the line with mbn
i also have a shit ton of stuff open
macbook neo users arent using opencode and binja
theyre going to use google chrome to watch youtube and use google docs
macbook neo users would use geforce now
apple is really pushing these macs
macbook neo users using parallels desktop to virtualize windows
too much of a workload for the neo
imagine someone in like 15 years makes macos run on the iphone 17
15 years?
like they did with android on the 2g
https://x.com/khanhduytran0/status/1954724636727587237 we already have this you know
i think not very long until
lmao
jailbreak is probably gonna take a while
yeah i mean native
oh shit is that native?
