general

[red hinge]

pixel 6a is the phone of fineness

[tawdry flare]

800$ for a 3gb ram phone 😐

[slim nova]

Tensor cpu

[red hinge]

you can!

[smoky niche]

exynass space heater, yummy!

[daring trail]

what phone would yall recommend

[red hinge]

no weird issues, just works

[smoky niche]

I get about 2 hours of SoT on my pixel 8 pro

[red hinge]

iphone 17 pro max

[sharp umbra]

😜

[slim nova]

But I'll have to admit tsmc tensor is better

[smoky niche]

other than the AWFUL GPU

[daring trail]

iphone is out of the question cause the value for money even second hand is awful

[signal hazel]

what the fuck

[red hinge]

qualcomm snapdragon 7 gen 3:

[daring trail]

and also I can't have open shit on this thing

[terse elbow]

That phone has a mass battery recall.

[slim nova]

Who needs a GPU when you have a tpu

[smoky niche]

also only 5 months old, it's my third warranty replacement since the last 3 8 Pros melted overnight and one exploded

[red hinge]

shit specs but at least you can run LLMs as fast as a 1660

🔥

[terse elbow]

Who cares

[slim nova]

Me

[terse elbow]

Smooth brain

[smoky niche]

they gave me new phones to not take it to the media but the NDA only lasts 1 year so I can talk about it now

[signal hazel]

my friend who moved to australia got an iphone for way less than it’d cost here. shame the aud is just an illusion

[vital junco]

I like the idea of hardware kill switches lol

[signal hazel]

😭

[smoky niche]

the GPU is literally worse than most midrange phones

[daring trail]

like all I need in a phone is:

• ability to run custom software and custom roms easily
• good enough spec for browsing, calls, and the basics
• last 5-10 years without any issues

i'm gonna be running it as mostly a dumbphone anyways

I don't need anything fancy

[terse elbow]

Pixel 7a

[slim nova]

As far as I've seen, pixel owners do not game

[daring trail]

don't care about camera

[smoky niche]

the Pixel 6a had a better GPU than the 10 Pro XL iirc

[smoky niche]

you need it for video encoding/decoding as well

not just gaming

[slim nova]

Trululu

[daring trail]

just need something that'll run the basics and last like a brick

[red hinge]

purism librem 5

[signal hazel]

give it 3-4 and you’ll want a new one

[terse elbow]

Pixel wins by default anyway but it also has a good camera and speakers.

[smoky niche]

do NOT buy a Pixel then

my pixel is the least reliable phone I have ever used

[slim nova]

Iphone is your safest bet ngl

[signal hazel]

pixel screens like to fall off as well

[red hinge]

having apple level of QC is a luxury these days

[daring trail]

first point

[smoky niche]

and I have no other choice but to use it because it literally has zero resale value because it's a pixel

[daring trail]

oh my budget is also <700 AUD

[slim nova]

Pixels with lineage and extremely good care

[red hinge]

firmware good enough you don't have to seek for a custom one

great spec for basic stuff

[smoky niche]

the resale value of my 8 Pro is less than a midrange phone

[terse elbow]

Quit bitching. Nothing you're saying is even true.

[red hinge]

lasts up to 13 years (iphone 5s)

[daring trail]

hell nah

[smoky niche]

yes it is

[slim nova]

Real

[daring trail]

frankly

[slim nova]

That's why I'm rocking pixel (stock)

[daring trail]

I've run iphones for ages

and it's not for me

[red hinge]

custom rom is not worth it in big 26

[daring trail]

I want the control

[signal hazel]

samsung galaxy A17

[red hinge]

you can't even run any sensitive apps

[daring trail]

iphones don't give it

[velvet zenith]

iphone

[terse elbow]

You're chatting shit about the resale value which can easily be disproven with a 5 second ebay search

[daring trail]

I wanna actually own my device

[signal hazel]

good luck

[velvet zenith]

you can own your iphone

[daring trail]

run my own software

[velvet zenith]

you can make your own apps and run them

[red hinge]

without going KernelSU Next + SUSFS + Hide My Apps + PIF + SafetyNet

[smoky niche]

sure

[daring trail]

I can write my own kernel and run that?

[smoky niche]

purchased for $1699 2 years ago

[red hinge]

and still guranteed it will break at some point

[signal hazel]

if you wanna own your device, just buy it

[velvet zenith]

you can run your own apps and run them

[feral mist]

what apps do you even need

[velvet zenith]

rt

[terse elbow]

Apple will still tell you what you are and are not allowed to do with it, though. That's not really in line with my definition of ownership.

[smoky niche]

here's the replacement phones too

[daring trail]

I'm probably gonna run mobile linux on the thing anyways

so

[red hinge]

purism librem 5

[desert cairn]

yeah too bad that every other phone sucks

[red hinge]

having apple level of QC is a luxury nowadays

phone break too easily

[daring trail]

like as I said, I don't really care for quality of use or anything, i'm a linux user daily

[fossil rapids]

Apple software QC went downhill

[red hinge]

oh so you like the pain?

[desert cairn]

so then get a pixel

[terse elbow]

Apple has incredibly shitty QC what the fuck are you talking about?

[smoky niche]

iOS 15 was peak iOS

[worthy garden]

hello

[slim nova]

Hi

[velvet zenith]

the emergency calls r gonna fail randomly bro

[red hinge]

at least the back glass doesn't just fall apart

[desert cairn]

you might not be able to call 911 but 🤷‍♂️

[red hinge]

thanks samsung

[daring trail]

all I want is something that'll last me a while that I can run my own software on the whole way through, that I have full control over

[worthy garden]

how is your void ai

[desert cairn]

Software sure it's gone down hill

But their hardware is rock solid

[signal hazel]

and screens don’t fall off

[half compass]

I mean neither can you on iOS now

[velvet zenith]

Yo my hardware is the same too

[desert cairn]

No one lives in Australia

[desert cairn]

?

[signal hazel]

australias problem

[worthy garden]

Yo bro??

[desert cairn]

Oh and it's not for iOS 26

So tldr it doesn't matter

[terse elbow]

Remember when the iPhone 6 had a fundamental design flaw and then that chassis design stuck around with the same design flaw for a decade? Give me a fucking break.

[worthy garden]

fuck you

[desert cairn]

Decade ago btw

[velvet zenith]

they fixed it btw

[winter meadow]

Why won’t they just block the updates in Australia

[terse elbow]

No they didn't.

[desert cairn]

They did

They pulled it

[worthy garden]

don’t tell me

[winter meadow]

There only

Not worldwide

[daring trail]

people yap about UX too much

like

[desert cairn]

Because it was only Australia..?

[daring trail]

idc about the UX, I want something functional

[worthy garden]

@winter meadow my people need to call triple 000

[winter meadow]

What

[daring trail]

not pretty

[terse elbow]

No, they didn't. They improved it somewhat but if you ask an independent repair shop that actually fixed them they would tell you that the underlying design flaw is still present.

[velvet zenith]

No, they didn't. They improved it somewhat but if you ask an independent repair shop that actually fixed them they would tell you that the underlying design flaw is still present.

[red hinge]

idc about ux
functional

[worthy garden]

No, they didn't. They improved it somewhat but if you ask an independent repair shop that actually fixed them they would tell you that the underlying design flaw is still present.

[daring trail]

function over form every day

[red hinge]

[terse elbow]

Fuck you.

[velvet zenith]

the ux is very important

[red hinge]

ux is the user experience

not the UI

[winter meadow]

Don’t fall for shadow ragebait

[desert cairn]

UX is literally part of the functionality

[velvet zenith]

I like a non buggy mess of an operating system that i rely on daily

[terse elbow]

Too bad Apple's is dog shit, then.

[velvet zenith]

Ok

[worthy garden]

Ur dog shit

[thorny hatch]

so that’s why that happened 😭

[half compass]

Download android saar 📲 very powerful phone saar INDIA certified

[vital junco]

I tried almost every android ui and I can definitely say that Apple has one of the best ux

[worthy garden]

Download android saar 📲 very powerful phone saar INDIA certified

[thorny hatch]

was playing golf w my phone in my pocket bru that scared the shit out of me

[red hinge]

beginning in 2026, each month we (microsoft) are forcing you to play a game of russian roulette on your computer

[desert cairn]

throwback to when I had the OnePlus 9 pro and it literally erased its settings while I was using it and broke cellular and I had to use my X for the day because I didn't have time to EDL restore it

[terse elbow]

My Apple TV crashes and needs to be rebooted three times a week. Get Apple's dick out of your mouth.

[desert cairn]

this is Android user cope

[velvet zenith]

My Apple TV crashes and needs to be rebooted three times a week. Get Apple's dick out of your mouth.

[desert cairn]

This happens to no one

[worthy garden]

My Apple TV crashes and needs to be rebooted three times a week. Get Apple's dick out of your mouth.

[velvet zenith]

Hey so this doesnt happen on iot ltsc

[smoky niche]

My Apple TV crashes and needs to be rebooted three times a week. Get Apple's dick out of your mouth.

[velvet zenith]

Atleast not windows 10 iot ltsc

[desert cairn]

My Apple TV hasn't been turned off in 6 months probably

[slim nova]

I gave all my data to Google

[worthy garden]

y

[desert cairn]

cuz why would it be turned of

[red hinge]

25h2 and 24h2 uses the same codebase, which ltsc 2024 relies on 24h2

[desert cairn]

it goes to sleep

[red hinge]

yea the game of russian roulette still happens

[daring trail]

I can't update my iphone if I want more than 3 custom apps on this thing

but sure yeah I own it

[velvet zenith]

My shit still works

[vital junco]

livecontainer

[worthy garden]

Ud.

[desert cairn]

I mean what apps are you sideloading

[velvet zenith]

Gay porn

[desert cairn]

I sideload a single app it's useless aside from that

[worthy garden]

piracy apps

[red hinge]

wait until mf hears about livecontainer

🤯

[terse elbow]

Average Apple sycophant having massive horse blinders preventing them from noticing the countless bugs

[daring trail]

I've got livecontainer

[worthy garden]

use it

[daring trail]

also

if I update

my battery life will halve

lmao

[desert cairn]

I used an android phone for a year and I couldn't wait to go back to iOS after about 6 months of using it

And then people will tell me that I just got a bad android phone

[daring trail]

i'm not touching iOS 26

shit is hell

[desert cairn]

Hey idiot that shouldn't be possible

[red hinge]

planning to just get a SE because i hate my phone

[velvet zenith]

My pixel 7 sucks

[daring trail]

the UI design's awful

[velvet zenith]

I love my iphone 13

[red hinge]

i just want something that is cheap and works

[daring trail]

it slows everything to a halt

[velvet zenith]

Its more that android sucks honestly

[red hinge]

iphone SE 💪

[narrow crown]

ios 26 is fine dude

its perfectly fine

and it runs normal

[daring trail]

what phone?

[narrow crown]

14 base

[red hinge]

macOS 26 is actually the OS that breaks regularly

[velvet zenith]

@desert cairn

[desert cairn]

iOS 26 haters are autists that don't like change

[narrow crown]

^

[daring trail]

yeah 14 base

i'm on an 11 pro

and yeah i'm autistic

so what

[half compass]

What if im autistic and i have ios 26

[desert cairn]

it's been the same as previous macOS versions for me even on an ewaste m1 8gb

[red hinge]

NO WAY ITS SHIT ON THE LOWEST DEVICE SUPPORTED

[crisp saffron]

Good autist

[velvet zenith]

Yeah we could tell from you wanting to install linux on your phone

[terse elbow]

I think you might be the idiot if you think vendors shouldn't be allowed to sell cheap junk into an open platform's market...

[half compass]

Wow thanks

[daring trail]

I wanna have full control of every piece of my device

[desert cairn]

OnePlus is not cheap junk

[daring trail]

if I don't it's not my device

[red hinge]

idk i don't use macos but from the feedback from the people in and outside this server, its buggy

[terse elbow]

Incorrect.

[narrow crown]

then why did you buy an iphone

[daring trail]

I did like years ago

cause my entire family is apple ecosystem

for phones

[narrow crown]

its getting old anyways

[half compass]

26.2.1 still hasn’t been pulled

[narrow crown]

u should just get a android next

[desert cairn]

cuz it probably doesn't have the bug

[daring trail]

but i'm switching this year hopefully

[desert cairn]

Which makes this whole issue invalid because it works on the latest version

Broke ass mfs with ancient phones

[wild pelican]

btw, is there any way to get linux on macs? i lowk wanna get an m4 mba eta s0n

[red hinge]

don't

[vagrant moon]

hi, i was wondering if it was possible to restore ibridgeOS using the idevicerestore tool

[red hinge]

thank you

[daring trail]

asahi linux

[desert cairn]

We left the iPhone X series in 2020

[narrow crown]

asahi but not updated for m4 iirc

[terse elbow]

idiot who loves ewaste

[wild pelican]

cuz i like their thinness and powerfulness but m*cOS

[desert cairn]

Asahi but not updated for m3 or m4 yet

[red hinge]

it booted on M3, but not ready for production

[half compass]

I don’t think so actually

[velvet zenith]

Linux is never ready for production

[half compass]

the iphone 12 got ios 26

[narrow crown]

macos is good and fine. sure it has its quirks. but works fine. functions like a puter should

[daring trail]

????

[terse elbow]

Low effort ragebait

[winter meadow]

Awesome if u want it for like business or some

[daring trail]

linux is literally always production ready

[half compass]

and the 11 i think

[daring trail]

has been since

uhhh

[desert cairn]

is there still alternate update for whatever the latest iOS 18 is

[daring trail]

early 90s iirc

[red hinge]

do any serious professional media work

[terse elbow]

Somewhere around 1994 probably

[desert cairn]

I literally use Linux and this is 100% true

[red hinge]

oh no i can't adobe i can't run autodesk

[half compass]

only for the xr/xs and ipad 7s

[velvet zenith]

Switch back bro its never too late

[red hinge]

i can't run cubase i can't run imageline fl studio

oh no

[desert cairn]

No I dislike windows too much

I'm too deep into it

[red hinge]

time to use audacity to make music!

[daring trail]

I can run the whole ass internet on linux

[wild pelican]

well, switch the market

[velvet zenith]

Why dont you go deep in her

[narrow crown]

i will give this to linux users. if your only other option is windows. i get it

[wild pelican]

80ish percent of servers use linux

[desert cairn]

[red hinge]

you can't go deep into something that doesn't exist

[winter meadow]

Are you a server?

No

[red hinge]

tell an artist to go maintain a server then

[daring trail]

yes

[narrow crown]

i miss him

[daring trail]

yeah I have like

15 of em

[velvet zenith]

2 out of the 3 girls hes talked to me about exist

[half compass]

Im a server

[desert cairn]

Who is the 3rd ??

[velvet zenith]

Gym girl

[red hinge]

also believe it or not managing windows server is still an important skill

[half compass]

Im a good little server

[worthy garden]

V bro

[velvet zenith]

I dont know if she exists ive never seen a picture

[daring trail]

just cause some shitty corpo doesn't feel like supporting linux, doesn't mean linux isn't production ready

linux is the kernel

it's always been production ready

it's been more stable than darwin or NT for like

[red hinge]

mhm

NVIDIA

[desert cairn]

None of them are real they're all my schizophrenic hallucinations

[daring trail]

decades

[wild pelican]

well, greedy corpos don't work with superior OS, not my issue, let artists use windows/linux

[narrow crown]

linux is for geeks, nerds, etc.

[worthy garden]

i just took my phone out of the case it feels 10x better to use

[teal bramble]

👀

[wild pelican]

works like a fucking charm

[velvet zenith]

@desert cairn Solve it

[daring trail]

nvidia open source drivers:

[wild pelican]

on fedora proprietary drivers justwerk

[red hinge]

nebula poor 1060:

[desert cairn]

it's absolutely not ready for the average user on desktop

[narrow crown]

10x easier to break tho

[terse elbow]

Well I've already made quite clear that your opinions are often silly but in case it needed to be stated for anyone whose hobbies include eating glue, we were talking about servers, but even on the desktop enterprises have been using RHEL in production since the mid 90s

[desert cairn]

Works fine with normal driver

[desert cairn]

Especially with Wayland everything is 10x more complicated to get working than on windows

[daring trail]

there's a big distinction between x is ready for use by the average joe on a desktop and x is production ready

[winter meadow]

I’m gonna main netBSD atp

[terse elbow]

Skill issue.

[daring trail]

all production ready cares about is stability

[teal bramble]

“open source drivers” mfs when 3/4 of their shit is still closed

[daring trail]

reliable updates

[wild pelican]

nouveau:

[daring trail]

reliability for production use

[teal bramble]

suicide:

[wild pelican]

tho nouveau is dogshit on newer cards afaik

[daring trail]

production != consumer

[teal bramble]

its been dogshit since always

[red hinge]

mfs when asking for hardware support and gets replied with "go figure it yourself, dumbass"

[terse elbow]

Bro my mom uses Debian with Wayland and she's over 60 years old.

[half compass]

https://tenor.com/view/goatis-raw-meat-raw-meat-vegan-gif-14140390577131078323

[narrow crown]

your mom might be a geek

[desert cairn]

Linux users are the most insufferable people you'll meet on the internet because they cannot agree with the fact that their OS fucking sucks

[teal bramble]

this applies to windows aswell

[red hinge]

nouveau is a copium infused attempt for linux mfs to get something to display

[desert cairn]

Yeah sure it's fine if you read Facebook in a web browser

[teal bramble]

✅

[daring trail]

truke

[desert cairn]

fr

[half compass]

If you have an nvidia card and linux then just dont

[desert cairn]

it works fine

Even with Wayland

[wild pelican]

okay, give me a good alternative that won't require to sell my data or buy into an ecosystem

[desert cairn]

Just don't use nouveau

[wild pelican]

i'm waitin'

[red hinge]

mfs when they keep shoving linux onto outdated hardware and calling it "perfectly usable" just because youtube works at 480p 25fps

[terse elbow]

Not even close. She doesn't even know how to clear the push notifications on her phone.

[desert cairn]

just embrace it

[half compass]

Meh it’s still not as good as amd drivers are

[worthy garden]

feels better

[daring trail]

fuck no

[wild pelican]

tbh, i had a macbook as a kid, it gave me childhood trauma

[narrow crown]

what does she do when she has to install an app. just ask you??

[half compass]

I have never had a single graphics issue with amd drivers in like 3 years now

[desert cairn]

obviously because no 60 year old knows what a flatpak is

[daring trail]

flatpak app store:

[red hinge]

happens to me every saturday

[daring trail]

vro there's literally just

an app store

[terse elbow]

Oh so you mean like 99.98% of the things that the average person does with a desktop computer, then? Obviously not just Facebook but anything that runs in a browser.

[daring trail]

you press install

and it installs

[wild pelican]

what distro

[daring trail]

that's it

[half compass]

Teach her rust next

[desert cairn]

so they should just use a Chromebook then

problem solved

I need muh open source operating system that'll limit me to using a browser because it's okay bro

[daring trail]

chromebooks suffer from the mac and windows problems

[desert cairn]

ITS OPEN SOURCE

[red hinge]

imagine when your grandma ask you how to install facebook on her computer and you just reply it with "fuck facebook use mastodon instead"

[desert cairn]

I LOVE OPNE SOURCE SOFTWARE

[chilly bear]

linux in the big 26 🥀

[desert cairn]

this is literally the exact type of people

[narrow crown]

chromebooks work for people who arent good with computers. and they r cheap

[chilly bear]

just use windows broo

[terse elbow]

I'm not really sure what you mean. She pretty much only installs apps when she clicks on an ad that takes her straight to the Play Store.

[narrow crown]

i mean on her desktop

no play store on linux

[wild pelican]

win11 sucks balls

[red hinge]

how many .exe files does she have in her download folder

[desert cairn]

Oh that's another opinion I have

[red hinge]

im curious

[chilly bear]

you suck balls

literally

[burnt kite]

It was just 1 ping

[desert cairn]

Android phones are absolutely not suitable for senior citizens

[narrow crown]

my grandparents have androids and they r fine

but my grandma is especially good at troubleshooting

[burnt kite]

Why

[daring trail]

chromebooks aren't bad, but they're not great either tbh, mainly just due to the fact that a lot of them have specs that barely work with browsing lmao

[desert cairn]

Both of my grandparents have Android phones. One installed about 3 malware apps from the play store, the other is slow as shit and barely usable

[red hinge]

people always end up with adware even when there's like 30 barriers preventing you from sideloading a malicious app

[wild pelican]

one day they get a siwwy little apk sent to them over whatsapp/telegram and it's joever

[terse elbow]

Oh she doesn't really need to do that. The stuff she does need is preinstalled, but if she did want to download more software, GNOME Software and Flatpak provide a frontend that's simple enough for her to understand.

[red hinge]

that is a wonderful thing i can't wrap my head around why

[desert cairn]

For like $300 which is the same price as the slop phone my grandma got she could've gotten like a used iPhone 13

[burnt kite]

This is true

[narrow crown]

my grandma has a pixel

goat

[burnt kite]

[daring trail]

1. use a custom ROM without gapps
2. preload all the software they need
3. give it to them with no ability to install apps on a separate, non-admin profile

[desert cairn]

You shouldn't have to do this !!

[red hinge]

1. iphone

[desert cairn]

The play store should not be filled with malware that's able to display ads on your screen man

[narrow crown]

who tf doing this. also what if she wants candy crush. what then???

[daring trail]

tell her to go touch grass lmao

[winter meadow]

Teaching a 65yo to use a new UI is a damn pain

[daring trail]

I'm not brainrotting my grandma

[terse elbow]

That's way too much effort, just setup LineageOS with no Gapps and one of those Senior Launchers from F-Droid that fits your specific needs.

[winter meadow]

Most of them have one phone for a lifetime

[desert cairn]

Android users when they can't think of a valid argument

And Linux

[wild pelican]

4. they get ratted

[red hinge]

built in btw

[narrow crown]

actually goated

[chilly bear]

yooo i use my phone like this

[daring trail]

spend $1000 on a phone that'll cost another $500 to repair if they drop it

[narrow crown]

ya i put my phone in old woman mode from time to time

[narrow crown]

ebay:

[daring trail]

genuinely in what world are even used iphones cheap

[ruby copper]

@narrow crown Hiii

[chilly bear]

that stopped happening like years ago

[red hinge]

spend $1000 on a phone that will cost a new phone because there are no parts

[narrow crown]

hi mineek

[desert cairn]

if you think that it's okay that the play store has malware all over, and to fix this issue you should install custom software that the manufacturer didn't intend on you using, you are insane

[chilly bear]

also why get a pro for them

[desert cairn]

none of these people have a real perception of reality

[chilly bear]

get the e versions

[red hinge]

linux users stance

[terse elbow]

Cringe. Senior launchers on Android are FAR more flexible, plus Android allows for unique and radical homescreen concepts.

[red hinge]

does my grandma needs it

[desert cairn]

Not even bro just get a used 13 for like $200-300

[wild pelican]

play store has now a good job of cleaning malware tho, they could still get ratted

[daring trail]

well the cunts who run the play store won't fix it

so we do

simple

effective

[winter meadow]

OS debate in the big 26 🥀

[desert cairn]

but your OS is wonderful

[red hinge]

its not that, its the ad infused low quality software

[ruby copper]

the playstore just shouldn't have malware in the first place

Android is goated its just insecure

[red hinge]

apple forces devs to write high quality software

[ruby copper]

google get ur security up

[desert cairn]

it shouldn't be possible to write malware without exploits

[ruby copper]

Exactly

[wild pelican]

i use f-droid for almost all of my shit actually

goated store

[ruby copper]

there's nothing fun of fdroid its all serious business or slop games

[daring trail]

the issue is we live in a capitalist shithole where writing low quality software is more profitable than high quality stuff

[burnt kite]

Both are bad

[red hinge]

so you just don't use the play store to get something at least high quality

[desert cairn]

I think it's hilarious how an app is able run in the background forever without asking the user for permission

[terse elbow]

???? Maybe? My whole point about the flexibility of Senior launchers on Android is that there are more accessibility options in case your grandma is incapable of interacting with a smartphone in a traditional manner for some reason.

[burnt kite]

....

[narrow crown]

if u have to fix something with third party software and u like the customization. thats one thing. but dont pretend this is a good option to get a 80 year old!!!

[red hinge]

ios devices natively support many accessibility devices btw

[wild pelican]

nah, i mean basic shit like camera app, keeb, phone, messages, vpn client, etc

[red hinge]

even eye tracking

[ruby copper]

@red hinge nfrcracker for android

[red hinge]

and no android fucking stinks when it comes to accessibility

[red hinge]

WHERE

[ruby copper]

have u seen it

[terse elbow]

That has nothing to do with the launcher being impossible to change.

[narrow crown]

nfr

[red hinge]

so you shot yourself in the foot

good job

[desert cairn]

I think it's funny how this crystal guy is currently arguing with a guy that's has been daily driving an android phone for however many years

[burnt kite]

Malware with exploits is even worseee

[red hinge]

does my grandma need to change launcher often

[terse elbow]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[chilly bear]

yea bro my grandmas theming the shit out of her phone rn

[red hinge]

does my grandma need to theme her phone

[daring trail]

a 2nd hand iphone 13 (5 years old btw, and will last another 2 if you're lucky) is $450

[winter meadow]

My grandma still got a S6 with stock OneUI and it’s perfectly fine dawg

[daring trail]

so split that over the 2 years it'll last

[winter meadow]

Switching to iOS will be a pain

[terse elbow]

That's not what I said you fucking dipshit

[daring trail]

225/yr

for a phone

[wild pelican]

tbh, i daily drive android cuz i like it, while my dad is an iphone user since fucking 3g and he currently rocks an xr

[desert cairn]

of your garbage Australian currency yeah

[chilly bear]

oh ok

[daring trail]

where do you live, the US?

[burnt kite]

You dont even know youre infected if you got malware through exploits

[red hinge]

i've been daily driving android phone since 2015

[narrow crown]

xr im so sorry for your loss dude

[desert cairn]

1st result

[wild pelican]

?

[desert cairn]

yeah we have a good economy

[daring trail]

mfw your country is becoming 1939 germany:

[desert cairn]

Both CAD and AUD are awful

[narrow crown]

until the ai bubble bursts 🙏

please

[desert cairn]

when did I mention this at all

[red hinge]

its a bit cheaper for me, around 200 bucks

[terse elbow]

I think it's funny that you are an ignorant dipshit who has demonstrated your ignorance on numerous occasions in the last 30 minutes and now you're calling me a guy even though my name is fucking Crystal. Crystal is not a man's name, sweetie.

[chilly bear]

instead of the ai bubble can we call it the iron dome

[daring trail]

"oh we have a good economy": 90% of the country in debt, 25% living paycheck to paycheck, 8% homeless

mfw

[desert cairn]

I could care less bro im using guy gender neutral

[wild pelican]

why did i have to be punished by gods to be born in Russia 😭

[daring trail]

how many trillions are yall in debt btw

[burnt kite]

Xcode stopped running, macbook is fully charged

[daring trail]

like 30 right

[terse elbow]

That is such a crock of horse shit.

[daring trail]

or is it more now

[burnt kite]

[desert cairn]

That is such a crock of horse shit.

[narrow crown]

girl its not that big a deal

[winter meadow]

That is such a crock of horse shit.

[wild pelican]

wdym

[narrow crown]

its a mf xr

[terse elbow]

Considering he probably did it very intentionally, I think it actually is.

[winter meadow]

Be grateful for that 😭

[wild pelican]

i otablocked him on ios 17, dw

[daring trail]

yall act like the US is some peak country that's better than everything else meanwhile yall are on track for civil war in the next 5-10 years

💀

[chilly bear]

it is a peak country

[desert cairn]

it is

[chilly bear]

keep coping

[desert cairn]

greatest crunchy in the world

[daring trail]

wild

[wild pelican]

our internet is getting suppressed, economy dips down like crazy, and we're 100% gonna get captured by rather China or USA

[narrow crown]

i think he typed up something in 5 seconds and was thinking more abt the fact that u are a android user than anything else

[terse elbow]

On track for? The feds already started the civil war in Minnesota.

[daring trail]

well yeah, national civil war will be soon

[ruby copper]

@narrow crown @terse elbow @desert cairn @chilly bear

[narrow crown]

dude what is mcloud

muffincloud

[chilly bear]

im crine

[narrow crown]

holy shit

[daring trail]

yall are doing the nazi germany pipeline

[desert cairn]

entitled rjb users really think I'm looking at everyone's profile before communicating with them

[terse elbow]

Yeah because he's got Apple's cock lodged in his throat.

[chilly bear]

yea

[sweet drum]

my 60 something years old grandma has an galaxy A36 and shes fine she gets confused sometimes by fake update adobe acrobat right now or your system will destruct ads on youtube and insists to show it to my dad which is an IT teacher at an high school but i convinced her and told her these are fake she seemed to get the hang of it

[narrow crown]

never thought i'd see the day where i'm defending nebula

[gusty hedge]

?

[wild pelican]

I hope China would just fucking capture Russia and USA

at least nazism will stop

[daring trail]

hell nah

china capturing them will end worse tbh

[wild pelican]

and total control will be in case of both scenarios anyway

[gusty hedge]

@gusty hedge

[desert cairn]

The advice of the Android users in this chat would be to install a custom rom because it's the only way to stop downloading malware on our superior platform

[daring trail]

the only way this ends well is a complete government takeover of both the US and russia independently by its citizens

[red hinge]

• install custom OS, remove gapps
• cherrypick useful apps for them
  or
• iphone

[daring trail]

anything else'll be world war

[wild pelican]

tbh, i'm placing my bets that at least SOME parts of Russia/US will get to China in like 10-20 years

[daring trail]

and a nuclear war at that

[red hinge]

i keep telling people to just get an iphone because of this

[desert cairn]

and there's like 2 supported manufacturers that get good custom roms

[wild pelican]

Russian govt is stuck in an AWFUL situation

[sweet drum]

i mean theres no safeguards put in place by google ads they have bored people spamming "APPROVE AD" as moderators

[red hinge]

they are not tech savvy enough to safely handle an android

[terse elbow]

You're incredibly annoying.

[winter meadow]

I can’t access Google play and App Store, Activision and Ubisoft and Nintendo online services, cloudflare captchas detect me as a bot, war broke out in the north with the Kurds, and 1$=12K liras, you live in a heaven

[red hinge]

1 now, its very hard to unlock oneplus bootloader nowadays

[velvet zenith]

@muted shuttle @desert cairn You're incredibly annoying.

[desert cairn]

The custom rom scene on my oneplus 9 pro was awful

All Android developers are stuck up morons that think they're gods gift to development

[red hinge]

for some reason i think samsung gets better custom roms than oneplus nowadays

modern oneplus

[wild pelican]

well... i casually can't access entire mobile internet (sup to whitelists), and nearly everything cfed, cuz RKN just likes to go brrrrrrr

[terse elbow]

Google isn't releasing the blobs anymore, so really it's down to 0

[daring trail]

nope they killed OEM unlocking

[sweet drum]

i feel you i have an russian friend too

[burnt kite]

Interesting

[sweet drum]

yeah im keeping my shi on the same bit version as oneui 7 (im on oneui 8 's last downgradeable version)

[wild pelican]

tbh, smasnug is one of the worst brands currently

[sweet drum]

no

[terse elbow]

Samsung's phones have always been shit.

[burnt kite]

I can confirm

[gilded rapids]

😔

[desert cairn]

@velvet zenith Hi

[wild pelican]

mfs here sell their stuff for more expensive price than iPhones (and Samsung here works OFFICIALLY, while iPhones are getting shipped from like China, UAE and shit) and yet they're mid af

[velvet zenith]

@desert cairn $8.74 received from stripe btw

[carmine elk]

yall how do I clear more fucking ram I wanna run utm

[desert cairn]

Thx

Saw

[wild pelican]

and they dare to lock the fucking bootloader

[daring trail]

I mean tbh no company is a good company

[desert cairn]

Stop with the fuckass tech tok pictures and take a screenshot dude

We do not care

[sweet drum]

even though my username in every roblox revival has been "andrewlovesios[insert ios version corresponding to the year of revival] i will defend both brands till i die

[wild pelican]

and don't let me get started on samsung unbriciing

[terse elbow]

LG made some nice phones but they never committed to allowing bootloader unlocks and their software updates were terrible.

[carmine elk]

mods rule 1

[wild pelican]

it's TERRIBLE

[daring trail]

they're all in the shit for the profit anyways

[sweet drum]

HOW THE FUCK DID YOU TAKE AN SCREENSHOT ON AN APPLE WATCH

[desert cairn]

@velvet zenith @muted shuttle mods rule 1

[daring trail]

no company cares about making a good product

[velvet zenith]

@velvet zenith @muted shuttle mods rule 1

[chilly bear]

ur using jit

[gilded rapids]

It’s in settings

[chilly bear]

it doesn't matter

[gilded rapids]

you can enable it lol

[sweet drum]

HOW

[wild pelican]

you rather have to buy very expensive software like Chimera, or authorized services only

[daring trail]

they just care abt min maxing profits lmao

[velvet zenith]

@desert cairn Solve it

[half compass]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stupid-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-gif-12221001666588210206

[desert cairn]

Some nerd shit

[wild pelican]

they wanna be apple yet don't have shit to be apple

[desert cairn]

get off my screen

[ruby copper]

@velvet zenith @muted shuttle mods rule 1

[sweet drum]

what do you mean chimera is free

[velvet zenith]

Ur gonna do this in 2 years

[wild pelican]

different Chimera, google it

[desert cairn]

I'm going to hang myself

[velvet zenith]

Youre not maxine

[red hinge]

the answer is 3 probably idk

[sweet drum]

ohh i remember

[sweet drum]

9?

[velvet zenith]

no bro its convergent

[winter meadow]

Is this like FRP bypass

[sweet drum]

yes

right on point

[wild pelican]

required for unbricking as well

[red hinge]

im sure this tool supports apple devices too

MODS

[sweet drum]

what

[chilly bear]

-3.9722864631

[daring trail]

man this server mid as hell

[terse elbow]

This is absolutely true. The sooner you realize this, forget about any concept of brand loyalty, and shift your shopping priorities to finding the best product that fits your needs within your budget.

[ruby copper]

Bro is claude

[cinder pebble]

https://tenor.com/view/epstein-jeffrey-epstein-j-jeffrey-sigma-gif-405083941180536765

[terse elbow]

There are some brands I won't touch though

[ruby copper]

Oh wait no that one says You're absolutely right

Same shit tho

[chilly bear]

https://tenor.com/view/door-open-gif-15260096

[desert cairn]

AI

[red hinge]

i mean, i am probably one of the bland person in here

[terse elbow]

Bro shut the fuck up

[ruby copper]

sorry

[red hinge]

even my OS is the average

[chilly bear]

you better watch it bud

[desert cairn]

Claude loves the word absolutely

[sweet drum]

apple

[terse elbow]

Eat my ass.

[raw mango]

He guys how i can dw ipa files in my ipad , anybody help me plz #jailbreak

[sweet drum]

https://tenor.com/view/epstein-jeffrey-epstein-j-jeffrey-sigma-gif-405083941180536765

[desert cairn]

Robots don't have an ass

[wild pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211528083501482004/1414045955153596507/caption.gif

[chilly bear]

nebulas a minor btw

[sweet drum]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gem-alert-alarm-meme-WhcClbnr7k8Ng7lZ8i

[daring trail]

I used to think jailbreaking was good, now I realise if I need to jailbreak my device to get it to do what I want, why even use it

[desert cairn]

@velvet zenith You're absolutely right!

[velvet zenith]

@limber temple Hi

[sweet drum]

absoulute hidden gem

[wild pelican]

android is jbed ios, but better

[desert cairn]

But installing a custom rom on your Android is normal

[cinder pebble]

What do you even mean

[daring trail]

yeah

[desert cairn]

And fine

[red hinge]

I used to think unlocking bootloader was good, now I realise if I need to unlock my device to get it to do what I want, why even use it

[raw mango]

He guys how i can dw ipa files in my ipad , anybody help me plz #jailbreak

[desert cairn]

yeah literally

[raw mango]

Help

[terse elbow]

I own lots of Apple products, I'm not sure why I would be in this Discord if I didn't. I just have a more realistic view of their goals than their average customer.

[chilly bear]

!t sideload bro idfk figure it out

[daring trail]

there's a massive difference between jailbreaking and unlocking bootloader lmao

[fervent dove]

Hey @raw mango, have a look at this!

sideload

Windows:
Impactor
Sideloadly
AltStore
SideStore
*zsign + ideviceinstaller
Sideloader

macOS:
Impactor
Sideloadly
AltStore
SideStore
*zsign + ideviceinstaller (brew install libimobiledevice libirecovery)
Sideloader

Linux:
Impactor
AltStore
Sideloader
*zsign + ideviceinstaller

Special:
***SignTools

On-device (requires jailbreak):
**AltStore + AltDaemon (iOS 12.2-14.5)
ReProvision Reborn (iOS 9.0-14.8.1)

*: Requires paid dev cert.
**: For iOS 13.3.1, you currently have to use an older version (see /tag altstorecrash).
***: For advanced users only. Setup may require a Mac in some instances.

Added by stkc#6525 | Used 703 times · Oct 12, 2021, 1:11 PM

[burnt kite]

False, that is bad opsec.

[winter meadow]

All phones are ass tbh

[sweet drum]

@raw mango YOU MIXED UP THE MANGO EMOJI HOW DID YOU MANAGE BRAH

[daring trail]

jailbreaking is intentionally exposing your phone to security risks to access features you wanna use (and should have access to)

[red hinge]

the short period of using a custom rom was delightful for me, until i realized i can't use anything because developers actually have a brain and don't want users get their money stolen

[desert cairn]

I used to think this then I got a modern iPhone with a TSMC chip and I have no more complaints

[daring trail]

custom roms are a feature in itself, the ability to use whatever software you want on a device

[raw mango]

Wot 🍋

[sweet drum]

i mean he looks a lot of health to me

[red hinge]

bootloader unlock is intentionally exposing your phone to security risks to access features you wanna use (and should have access to)

[ruby copper]

@desert cairn Is this a good idea

[terse elbow]

I mean that's why I dislike smartphones in general and really prefer desktop computers, but if I am going to possess a smartphone I want to have root access to it.

[daring trail]

^^^

[rich dune]

Definitely

[desert cairn]

Come hack me

[sour canyon]

Government should force all phone manufacturers to offer bootloader unlocking once it's carrier unlocked

[raw mango]

Its lemon 🍋

[cinder pebble]

True but isn't android basically the same in term of unlocking your bootloader? Anyone could go to ypur fastboot menu and factory reset to get rid of your data attached to it, technically bypassing frp? I'm not sure I hadn't tried that

[red hinge]

I mean that's why I dislike smartphones in general and really prefer desktop computers, but if I am going to possess a smartphone I want to actually have sensitive data and apps on it.

[sweet drum]

security risks that can be patched.

[sweet drum]

awww he must liek the dih

[desert cairn]

this guy is no older than 13

[terse elbow]

No, you can relock the bootloader.

[rich dune]

@low mortar https://ooo.eeeee.ooo

[daring trail]

jailbreaking requires keeping your phone on vulnerable software, bootloader unlocking doesn't

[desert cairn]

On literally one brand of device

[sweet drum]

WEE WOO ALERT

[terse elbow]

The only brand that's worth spending money on anyway.

[cinder pebble]

Well yes you can but we're talking about if we had root, like the same jailbreak as iOS.

[red hinge]

bootloader unlock requires keeping your phone on vulnerable boot status, jailbreaking isn't

[alpine rover]

URGH how do i subscribe to apple creator studio already

[daring trail]

so you encrypt all the partitions?

[desert cairn]

until your volume buttons fall off

[cinder pebble]

Oh yes it does, it makes fastboot accessible for anyone that had the phone physically

[terse elbow]

You're thinking of samsung.

[winter meadow]

Trusting a random guy on XDA isn’t the same as trusting tweak devs?

[daring trail]

if you have given up hardware access the device is exploited anyways

[red hinge]

i have more banking apps btw

[desert cairn]

K

[sour canyon]

Phone manufacturers love saying shit like "ohhh ohhhh but if we let you unlock your bootloader then the data on our proprietary os is now no longer secure" nope idiot just encrypt it like you already do, you can dual boot Linux just fine on Apple Silicon without making the macOS install less secure

[wild osprey]

Is fastboot not accessible on literally any Android phone
Locked or unlocked

The difference is being able to boot something unsigned

[red hinge]

it is the android bootloader

[wild osprey]

I don’t think there’s much of a concern from a “physical access to the device” point of view with having an unlocked bootloader

[terse elbow]

I mean technically it's not really "a random guy on XDA" if it's literally the LineageOS team and the developer of Magisk who works for Google as a security engineer.

[red hinge]

manufacturers can lock user access to it (samsung)

[daring trail]

exploits that require physical access are non issues anyways

[wild osprey]

Gotta love it

[red hinge]

its still there but you can't access it

[daring trail]

if someone has physical access the device is already lost

[red hinge]

for good

[desert cairn]

using a phone with an unlocked bootloader is like daily driving a checkm8 iPhone

[winter meadow]

Not every single device is officially available on Lineage

[cinder pebble]

Didn't you realize that some phone is still able to use fastboot and boot into it, i've used realme and it's quite literally easy to get into fastboot

[winter meadow]

I do that

lol

[cinder pebble]

Of course if only the device is unlocked bootloader

[daring trail]

the bigger issue is networked exploits

[wild osprey]

Yes

I’m also saying I can boot ALMOST* any Android phone into fastboot

Unlocked or not

[daring trail]

and remote exploits

[red hinge]

me when i charge my phone on one of the public charger and the guy on the other side goes
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system

[desert cairn]

based alert

[daring trail]

literally physical attacks are such a tiny attack vector

[terse elbow]

Statistically most devices are not supported but I think anyone who is serious about running a custom OS on their phone should know better than to buy a phone without investigating that first.

[vagrant moon]

ill rephrase my question.. Is it possible to know the bridgeos version just from dfu mode alone?

[carmine elk]

I hate the fact that apple makes 12gb ram iPads use more ram in idle without any apps running in the background than 3gb ram iPads

[daring trail]

who tf uses a public charger without a condom lmao

[desert cairn]

bc iPadOS is slop

[daring trail]

I always carry a usb condom w me if I need to use a public charger

[chilly bear]

ok sorry

[winter meadow]

iPads are slop

[cinder pebble]

Instead a funny penguin shows up

[desert cairn]

not even it's great hardware

iPadOS just sucks

[daring trail]

they're like 5 bucks

[red hinge]

literally took them until ipados 26 to actually make it a good desktop replacement

[terse elbow]

If you left adb enabled and approved the request to allow a random public charger to pair with your device, that's your own dumbass fault.

[pallid sierra]

Hiii

[daring trail]

also yeah

[pallid sierra]

I need help lol

[daring trail]

who tf is leaving USB debug access on their device lmao

turn that shit off as soon as you can

[chilly bear]

you

[daring trail]

no?

[red hinge]

i run a custom build of lineage os on my android server device, and adb is completely exposed

[daring trail]

I use it once to flash custom rom and turn it straight off again

do everything else over ssh

[red hinge]

i didn't build that OS

[terse elbow]

you really should disable it, but even if you don't there is a prompt to allow or deny

[daring trail]

and turn that off once i'm done too

[red hinge]

im not dumb enough to run an OS built by a random mf on my phone

i store valuable stuff on my phone

[pallid sierra]

So I need to jailbreak an iPhone 14, IOS version 26. I’ve never jailbroken a device before. Is there a guide for this?

[wild osprey]

You can not

[chilly bear]

you can't

[autumn lodge]

How long has this jailbreak community existed since like what 2007?

[chilly bear]

cuz ios is so secure

[daring trail]

i'm not dumb enough to run an OS built by a profit leeching corpo on my phone. I store valuable stuff on my phone

[winter meadow]

Cydia is older than the App Store

[terse elbow]

adb is really useful but after you have LOS installed you can just use adb over network

[pallid sierra]

Fuck 😭

[daring trail]

yk it'd be super profitable if said profit leeching company sold that valuable data

it's almost like they do that

[autumn lodge]

I knew cuz it didn’t get added til 2 and cydia existed for iOS 1

[crisp saffron]

why use a phone that sells ur data

[winter meadow]

What should I put on my neocities page

[autumn lodge]

Can jay freeman come back

[daring trail]

exactly

why use an iphone

or an android

[autumn lodge]

And geohotz

[terse elbow]

It's almost like the entire business model of the entire tech industry or something

[daring trail]

yeah

[cinder pebble]

Someone thats willingly love to ruin their life

[winter meadow]

Daily postmarketOS

[crisp saffron]

because it’s not stealing my data

[wild osprey]

💀

[red hinge]

same with my android

[terse elbow]

Cope

[autumn lodge]

Bro got sued by Sony for hacking ps3

[red hinge]

its not stealing my data

[daring trail]

pmOS is peak

[red hinge]

my ads are generic

[crisp saffron]

Not like i can see the dns logs

[chilly bear]

it does

[autumn lodge]

Yall don’t get the iPhone 17 or 17 pro get the air

[vital knoll]

actually since 2001. this community predates ios

[chilly bear]

trust me bud

[daring trail]

vro literally all these devices steal your data

[chilly bear]

i have ur data

[cinder pebble]

Hadnt seen ads in a while ngl

[daring trail]

that's the whole business model

[autumn lodge]

Do you sell my data to big Netanyahu

[cinder pebble]

Yes!!!

[winter meadow]

All people do

[terse elbow]

Oooh, dns logs. Surely those will give you detailed information on the specific data that the iPhone is collecting and phoning home with

[gilded rapids]

Everytime I see your username i keep thinking about my work tasks 😔

[red hinge]

i can't just get rid of ads on apps, but the ads are as generic as it gets

it doesn't leak outside

[prisma garnet]

Yo

[crisp saffron]

now go see what data android collects on you

[autumn lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-ball-bibi-throwing-gif-23858596

[chilly bear]

@half compass confirmed he works for palantir

[vital knoll]

hi oomfs

[cinder pebble]

Fair

[gilded rapids]

no but they’re a good company imo

[winter meadow]

iPhone asks you for diagnostics data lol

It’s not something new

[gilded rapids]

Raytheon my guy

[daring trail]

nothing cause I use an AOSP build with no network permissions to anything except the current running app and certain approved background apps

:D

[gilded rapids]

gm

[winter meadow]

You work with Palantir?

[gilded rapids]

no 😭

[terse elbow]

Android does too, not sure what your point is

[crisp saffron]

as if it’s not the apps stealing ur data anyway

[red hinge]

and you use discord

[wild osprey]

How to make your device just literally worse to use

[crisp saffron]

^^

[cinder pebble]

Almost everything does

[gilded rapids]

@winter meadow

[chilly bear]

can you get me a job there when i grow up

[daring trail]

I use a public messaging service to send messages I intend to be public

okay

[crisp saffron]

i can literally view your data in the discord dashboard if i wanted to

[gilded rapids]

I thought you were like in your 20s

[red hinge]

cringe

[chilly bear]

nope still a baby

[gilded rapids]

I got my job from nepotism lmao

[daring trail]

any data I send on an unencrypted platform I intend to be public

[winter meadow]

@gilded rapids me too

[daring trail]

idc about this data

[red hinge]

idk man, the privacy community and the audiophile community shares the same ground of delusional takes

[vital knoll]

people hate nepotism until it's them

[terse elbow]

Okay at this point I think the term "your data" is starting to lose all meaning.

[gilded rapids]

Fr

[tawny hearth]

Slv rapaziada sou bahiano

[gilded rapids]

Morals can’t buy you a Porsche

[winter meadow]

Slv rapaziada sou bahiano

[crisp saffron]

i think the devices you use discord on is sensitive

[daring trail]

I only use open source, end to end encrypted software for personal communication

[red hinge]

promptly delete your discord account

[vital knoll]

I'm from not bahia

[daring trail]

cause that shit's unintended for public viewing

[crisp saffron]

this discord member clearly has a case of linux useritis

[daring trail]

what I send in a public server I don't care about

[daring trail]

and?

I use nixos

lmao

[crisp saffron]

yep

[vital knoll]

I read that as usertits

[crisp saffron]

brain rotten

get him to the asylum

[red hinge]

intel ME and AMD PSP are spyware tools built by the NSA

[daring trail]

bruh

[terse elbow]

Says the guy who thinks Apple isn't selling data.

[red hinge]

and the solution is to flash a custom bios

[vital knoll]

bestie the PSP was by Sony not amd smh

[daring trail]

I can't wait till risc-v is daily drivable

[cinder pebble]

Intel me is vulnerable to being a backdoor, but it isnt a spyware

[daring trail]

I've nuked ME on my intel machines tho

[crisp saffron]

You can prove me wrong btw

That is a thing people can do

[winter meadow]

Touch grass

[terse elbow]

Apple is an advertising agency.

[crisp saffron]

They can share evidence

[red hinge]

its not even running unless you're on a monitored hardware

[daring trail]

I do actually

[wild osprey]

They aren’t Google
It isn’t their primary business

[winter meadow]

Lies

[gilded rapids]

imo I just think cause it’s business for profit

[cinder pebble]

Yeah tbf, it isn't even capable of being spyware

[crisp saffron]

Oh noooooo app store ads :(;((

[daring trail]

I mean I go for walks daily and rock climb weekly

so

idk

[gilded rapids]

it’s not like they have a perfect record with treating people cough Foxconn

[terse elbow]

Quite frankly I think it requires a lot more faith to believe that they're not selling your data.

[red hinge]

how to achieve perfect privacy and anonymity

[vital knoll]

out of FAANG Id say apple is the most likely to not sell data

[wild osprey]

Easily yes

[daring trail]

I'll say apple sells the least data

and also

keyword sells

they use a lot internally

[red hinge]

im willing to donate that data to apple for them to make their software better

[velvet zenith]

Hey i turned this on but now chrome isnt working

Help please

[gilded rapids]

reminder Apple still outsources production to poorer countries with little pay

Ethically that’s wrong but you as the consumer do not care 😭

[crisp saffron]

99% of which cant be traced back to you

[wild osprey]

It’s not working sadly

[terse elbow]

That is probably technically true but the bar is in hell.

[daring trail]

and that'll also change p fast once they implement gemini into siri

[red hinge]

there, nothing works but you are shielded from the scary internet

[daring trail]

which they're doing this year iirc

[crisp saffron]

they're hosting it themselves

so

[half compass]

what are the chances if i purchase an apple proto from china my package is seized

[cinder pebble]

I hope that's the case for iOS 26

[crisp saffron]

it won't change shit

it'll be the same siri data gathering policies

[wild osprey]

The Gemini models are supposed to be running on Apple’s Private Cloud Compute servers

[crisp saffron]

which is absolutely fuck all

[velvet zenith]

Try it and see

[crisp saffron]

the shared audio recordings are literally just
audio
transcript
what siri responded with

[chilly bear]

0/10

[red hinge]

yea but the furry rp vc can be leaked that way

better be safe

[winter meadow]

Yo what

[red hinge]

i believe that the people being scared of getting their data stolen are also the one who stores weird stuff on their devices

[winter meadow]

Idc about being hacked on my iPhone lol

[red hinge]

like for me, what the fuck is meta and tencent gonna do with my selfies and photos with my friends

[winter meadow]

I have nothing important

Even my Apple ID isn’t mine
(I got it with the password in notes when I bought this phone)

[wild osprey]

There’s nothing on my phone to a point where I’m screwed if it gets leaked

There’s stuff I wouldn’t necessarily like to share, but is it worth ruining my experience and being afraid of every company in the world

Not to me

[cinder pebble]

I don't mind as longest they don't push it on front of my face

[red hinge]

which, if they do, is a lawsuit waiting to happen

[narrow crown]

apple is not about to leak my nudes idgaf

[red hinge]

by the data collection policy, most services can only collect non traceable data

[pallid sierra]

What

[red hinge]

you stay private, just that your usage gets uploaded

[iron zinc]

Use them to train AI

[chilly bear]

@half compass feinberg if he was an alcoholic beverage created by fermenting crushed grapes, usually from the Vitis vinifera species, using yeast to convert natural sugars into alcohol and carbon dioxide: yo im wineberg

[narrow crown]

#general message

[winter meadow]

Ok and?

[wild osprey]

Who cares

[red hinge]

it is good to have basic anonymity online, people can just track you if you left opsecs everywhere

[iron zinc]

Me ???

[chilly bear]

@half compass feinberg if he found something funny but in a sarcastic way: yo im crineberg

[winter meadow]

My specific photo won’t matter

[red hinge]

but don't be schizo about it

[iron zinc]

You should care too

[chilly bear]

@half compass feinberg if he went wah wah wah: yo im whineberg

[wild osprey]

I don’t have a massive reason to

[vital knoll]

Id rather give my data to tencent then meta

[half compass]

death to you

[winter meadow]

I have barely 2 photos of myself on my phone

[narrow crown]

crazy

i have photos of myself going back to like age 13

[chilly bear]

@half compass feinberg if he was eating: yo im dineberg

[winter meadow]

Shut up

[vital knoll]

wow that's crazy cause I have photos of you going back to age 6

/s issa joke

[narrow crown]

?

[red hinge]

same

meta distributes your data throughout the world, tencent data stays within china

[chilly bear]

@half compass feinberg if he was 3x3: yo im nineberg

[cinder pebble]

Factuality

[vital knoll]

I mean out of the 2 countries which one is more likely to randomly go to a country and overthrow their leader without any prior warning

[chilly bear]

@half compass feinberg if he was a strong, lightweight cord made by twisting two or more strands of fiber (natural like hemp/cotton or synthetic) together, often using a "reverse wrap" method to prevent unravelling: yo im twineberg

sorry

sorry

[red hinge]

obviously china

they obviously did it once

in idk mongol?

[winter meadow]

I’m alone at home

Time to play music on TV until neighbours tell me to stfu

[cinder pebble]

Amazing writing

10/10 plot

[winter meadow]

REBELLIOUS
A Furry Visual Novel I'm working on
Lovely site

Fuck discord formatting

[split nimbus]

@winter meadow @cinder pebble @red hinge @chilly bear I FOUND THE BUG ON MY CODE!!!!

[crisp saffron]

get it out wtf

[winter meadow]

What are you working on

[cinder pebble]

Neocities is goated like that

[cinder pebble]

Little guy

[chilly bear]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[gilded rapids]

my love hate relationship with CarPlay I’m about to just use my old iPad 😭

[winter meadow]

Get carbridge on your iPad 7

Easy

[gilded rapids]

ew no I don’t want no ghetto home button iPad in my car

I’m using my m1 11in pro

😭

[dry monolith]

Why does youtube look so fucking shit on this tablet

everything else looks great