general

[velvet zenith]

fuck im gonna do with 2 cars

[ruby copper]

Ur too poor to buy either

[crimson fjord]

funny vr headset you'll use like twice*

[velvet zenith]

fuck im gonna do with 2 cars

[trail isle]

rent it out

[ruby copper]

For when the first one is low on fuel

Or rent it out

[crimson fjord]

real

[velvet zenith]

@polar python Is this true

[silent linden]

Small car

[crimson fjord]

apple watch series 11 is 680 hell no

how much is the se 3

[trail isle]

my iphone 11 is on 26.0 so im gonna fuck with mobilegestalt idgaf about this phone

[crimson fjord]

400

ehhhhh

[ruby copper]

A small cat doesn't cost $6k

[crimson fjord]

thats not terrible

[ruby copper]

At least I don't hope so

I bought my cat for €5

[narrow crown]

everybody loooves two cars until they remember two car insurance

[crimson fjord]

se 3 will probably have the same garbage battery life of the se 2 i already have and dont use

[ruby copper]

Muffin is a €5 cat

[crimson fjord]

irp

rip*

[velvet zenith]

No

[silent linden]

I meant to type car

[low mortar]

I really want a cat

[polar python]

I got both lil bro

[crimson fjord]

should probably use my apple watch again

[velvet zenith]

U just gotta wait for the cat distribution system

[ruby copper]

Do you ever use ur avp tho

[polar python]

No

[velvet zenith]

Thats what ive been waiting for

[trail isle]

i got a cat for free 10 years ago

[low mortar]

The system is letting me down

[velvet zenith]

Can i use it

[polar python]

Yeah

[narrow crown]

meow

[low mortar]

I need an emotional support kitty

[velvet zenith]

sometimes it sucks its been 19 years no cat

[narrow crown]

meow

[velvet zenith]

Ok thx

[low mortar]

Guys no way

[narrow crown]

meow

[low mortar]

I got a kitty

[ruby copper]

@narrow crown Gm.

[narrow crown]

meow

[velvet zenith]

❌

[low mortar]

Mrrroowwww

[ruby copper]

Idk what the normal price for a cat is

[trail isle]

nvm 26.1
i can still fuck with mobilegestalt tho

[narrow crown]

meowww

[low mortar]

:3

[ruby copper]

We knew the people at the place where we bought muffin from which is why we got a discount

[trail isle]

its mad how thin the iphone 6s plus is

[low mortar]

my friend sends me a video of her cat and I’m just like that would fix me

[frosty grail]

get a rabbit

[ruby copper]

I renamed my wifi network appropriately

[frosty grail]

good lad

proud of you son

[low mortar]

I really want a rabbit too

I just want emotional support animals

[frosty grail]

have an automation that tracks when he enters/leaves so it can swap the SSID @ruby copper

[burnt kite]

No -NoMap flag?

I see

[frosty grail]

have all your devices registered for both SSIDs

[ruby copper]

Honestly fire idea

[frosty grail]

minimal disruption

[ruby copper]

I need to like put an AirTag on muffin

[frosty grail]

so if anyone asks if muffin is home, just look at your wifi connection

and youll know

[narrow crown]

guys

[ruby copper]

I should add the muffin home detector to a webhook

[low mortar]

@frosty grail I demand bunnny pic

[ruby copper]

Automatically pinging shep with muffin status updates

Idk how I would make it tho

[low mortar]

Woof?

[narrow crown]

ruff

i guess

[trail isle]

chat if i plug in my iphone with a broken screen into my computer will it tell me what ios its on without me logging in

[ruby copper]

If it's paired yes

[trail isle]

its on my apple id

[ruby copper]

You can also check iboot version

[frosty grail]

im not home rn

[trail isle]

oh yeah true

[low mortar]

Wrong answer

[frosty grail]

heres one from yesterday

[wary badge]

Odds i actualy get a brand new wii u at this price? @ruby copper

[low mortar]

Omg bynnyyy!!!

[frosty grail]

wii uwu

iiwii uwu

[ruby copper]

It's Japanese

You need to like

[wary badge]

Yes it is

[ruby copper]

Region change it

[ripe anchor]

japanese region lock gon go crazy

[wary badge]

Thats fine

[ruby copper]

And that's a pain to do I think

[wary badge]

Its a fuckin wii bruh

[ruby copper]

Idk if it's even possible

[wary badge]

No way its that hard

[frosty grail]

"counting or not counting the aaron people"

[wary badge]

Im using roms no matter what

[low mortar]

Holy shit

[ruby copper]

I mean you need to use the boot1 exploit at the very least

[ripe anchor]

aaron's jewish?

[trail isle]

GO AWAY

[frosty grail]

no he's an aaron

[frosty grail]

no

[low mortar]

That’s actually the craziest thing I’ve seen all week

[ripe anchor]

oh i was about to say

[low mortar]

And I’ve seen some crazy things

[ruby copper]

@wary badge Hold on.

[wary badge]

Sir yes sir

[trail isle]

is there anything interesting about this build

[chilly bear]

@wary badge Let go.

[ruby copper]

https://wiki.hacks.guide/wiki/Wii_U:Region_Changing oh it's super easy now with the boot1 exploit

[ripe anchor]

update your goddamn phone 😭

[wary badge]

Whar

[ruby copper]

Way easier then back in my day

[chilly bear]

mf ur 12

[wary badge]

Were u even alive when the wii u released

[trail isle]

this is just an old phone not my main
i’m gonna do some mobilegestalt fuckery

[frosty grail]

.

[ripe anchor]

mMMmMM go for it

[trail isle]

my main is on 26.1 release version

[ruby copper]

I've gone through the entire Wii U modding history

[trail isle]

i want an iphone air on 26.1

[ruby copper]

From browser based exploits to haxchi to cbhc

[chilly bear]

@dense zinc i turn legal this year 😢

[ruby copper]

Then to tiramisu and payloadloadee

[frosty grail]

the 13 year olds here are younger than the wii u

[ruby copper]

Then to aroma

[trail isle]

same

[dense zinc]

ok

so do i

then you can live up to your current name

[ruby copper]

Why is bro named dleovl

[frosty grail]

typo

[wary badge]

Seprmvr flashbacks

[narrow crown]

dleovl

[wary badge]

Ok so

[wary badge]

@ruby copper

Im gunna

Install aroma

[trail isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260086197213073439/1362206424230269070/unknown.gif

[chilly bear]

yay!

[wary badge]

Then region change

Then mod vwii

Then

Mod vwii?

Oh wait

[winter meadow]

JAIL BREK

[trail isle]

vwii is the wii mode

[wary badge]

Yes

So i mean

Mod the wii u env then region change then mod vwii

[winter meadow]

hru chat

[trail isle]

yes

[winter meadow]

oldest trick in the book

[trail isle]

best ios bug oat

[wary badge]

If i actually recieve a brand new wii u ill be hype i figured why not shoot at $140

Next closest new wii u listing was $450+

[crimson fjord]

Ayyy

Melodyne Studio upgrade is on sale

[glacial valve]

cooked

[crimson fjord]

850 usd -> 200 usd

gonna snag that

[trail isle]

peak deal

[crimson fjord]

indeed

its like a 25 year sale

and i use melodyne all the time

epic program

[trail isle]

what does melodyne do again

[low mortar]

Hey at least I’m older than one console

[crimson fjord]

manual pitch correction

imagine autotune but more natural and you do the pitch correction note by note

[trail isle]

cant you do that inside antares autotune

[crimson fjord]

the bigger versions also work with instruments

you can individually alter piano notes

or guitar notes

or choirs

its pretty powerful

[crimson fjord]

you can technically but only on the biggest version they sell and its dogshit in comparison

it also doesnt really offer what melodyne does

[trail isle]

well i pirated it so

[crimson fjord]

melodyne gives you complete control over the voice

i bought it

[trail isle]

ill just pirate melodyne too

[crimson fjord]

i bought both autotune and melodyne

[frosty grail]

im older than PS2, younger than N64

[crimson fjord]

both far cheaper than fl studio

fl studio is great

bought the all plugins addition

[crisp saffron]

refurb is the way to go

[crimson fjord]

partly to support them cus i think they're a great company and partly cus i wanted more plugins

[crimson fjord]

fr

[crisp saffron]

esp for an atv

there's basically nothing that can actually fail

except like

hdmi port

[trail isle]

only plugin i pay for is serum 2

[frosty grail]

refurbished nooka for sale now

[rich dune]

Im buying binja i think

[crimson fjord]

lifetime free updates is amazing

[crisp saffron]

still loose

[crimson fjord]

plus fl studio is so much less idk

[frosty grail]

refurbers are not miracle workers

[crimson fjord]

corporate

than the rest

the only thing that comes close imo is logic

pro tools and ableton both feel so bland

[frosty grail]

@crisp saffron

[trail isle]

might cop

[copper tendon]

not worth it at all but

[ruby copper]

I was wondering something right

How do fireworks look from space

[trail isle]

id look for cheaper but

[indigo bough]

hi mineek

[ruby copper]

Let's say a big area of land at like 12 am all ignited fireworks at once

[jaunty garnet]

just get a iPad off tor

[crimson fjord]

although fl's lack of ARA support is getting on my nerves

[ruby copper]

Could that be seen from space

[crimson fjord]

melodyne without ARA support sucks fucking ass

[frosty grail]

biden baja blast

[jaunty garnet]

what is ara

[crimson fjord]

but its a minor price to pay

[indigo bough]

do they have HDR emojis

[crimson fjord]

Audio Random Access

[jaunty garnet]

ass

[crimson fjord]

It means you don't have to scan in an audio clip into a plugin before editing

instead you can do realtime non destructive edits to the clip from within the plugin

[jaunty garnet]

why is my battery life so shit

[crimson fjord]

low power mode is shit

[trail isle]

i told it to

[copper tendon]

i think it depends on how big the fireworks are

[trail isle]

i used to have low power mode on at all times but ios 26 runs so bad i never have it on

[indigo bough]

it doesnt work

smh

[trail isle]

ops free zone

smh

[jaunty garnet]

my phone literally died here

[fossil citrus]

I have low battery mode on all the time

Except for charging

[indigo bough]

which phone

[jaunty garnet]

when 26.3 drops im gonna update

26.1 is so shit

[trail isle]

particle accelerator:

i hate lcds

[copper tendon]

get a new battery bro

[jaunty garnet]

my MacBook display started tweaking at 2am last night

cause the phone was next to it

[trail isle]

fuck idk my passcode

umm

[fossil citrus]

it’s at 86%

[jaunty garnet]

and apparently blasted out signals to the display cable

[fossil citrus]

the battery health

[jaunty garnet]

causing random lines

[copper tendon]

get it replaced bro

pay for the replacement

[fossil citrus]

why

[trail isle]

chat how do i reset my phones pin

[crimson fjord]

my battery is at 88%

[copper tendon]

because your battery life is crap

[crimson fjord]

ion wanna pay for the 130 replacement

[fossil citrus]

i don’t have any problems with it

[crimson fjord]

plus everytime ive had a battery replacement done for me its been shit

theyve all broken

[trail isle]

that’s the ios 15 wallpaper right

[crimson fjord]

and had issues

yes

[jaunty garnet]

just use https://maxine.cat/icloud-bypass

[trail isle]

im just gonna restore it then its a 6s

[trail isle]

its my icloud i just dont know the passcode anyway

[fossil citrus]

bro WHAT

[trail isle]

how can i reset the passcode with my icloud

[fossil citrus]

WHY IS THERE 1 HOUR ON YOUTUBE

[frosty grail]

skill issue

[crimson fjord]

LOL

[jaunty garnet]

bro is sorting files

[jaunty garnet]

average icrazeware

[frosty grail]

vibe coded

[indigo bough]

Hi, I'm Maxine.

I'm a 17 year old technology enthusiast. I am most interested in Apple devices, homelabbing, and more.

My Projects:

cobalthelper: a Discord bot that reposts social media photos/videos for everyone to save
forwardrepostbot: a Discord bot that reposts forwarded messages as embeds for older clients
Cydia Repo: Cydia repo with various tweaks, themes, etc.

Social Links:

Twitter
GitHub
Discogs Collection
-# (Spinning PowerMac G4) Made with a Mac

[jaunty garnet]

why do you have screen time on chrome

[crimson fjord]

wdym

[jaunty garnet]

Hi, I'm Maxine.

I'm a 17 year old technology enthusiast. I am most interested in Apple devices, homelabbing, and more.

My Projects:

cobalthelper: a Discord bot that reposts social media photos/videos for everyone to save
forwardrepostbot: a Discord bot that reposts forwarded messages as embeds for older clients
Cydia Repo: Cydia repo with various tweaks, themes, etc.

Social Links:

Twitter
GitHub
Discogs Collection
-# (Spinning PowerMac G4) Made with a Mac

[crimson fjord]

why would i not

[jaunty garnet]

???

why would you

[rich dune]

Based lego games enjoyer

[crimson fjord]

perchance because its the browser i use on my laptop???

[crimson fjord]

real

lego games are peak

[jaunty garnet]

@ruby copper what will be the next mineekware

[frosty grail]

hm

[indigo bough]

https://tenor.com/view/sixseven-six-seven-67-67kid-67meme-gif-14353778807561114118

what have i found

god help me

[ruby copper]

Real people don't use this slopware real people use https://github.com/mineek/mineekbypass/tree/MPEAEF

[frosty grail]

i use youtube while on the treadmill or walking outdoors

[copper tendon]

i love tcs

[crimson fjord]

5 hours on reddit is wild

[crimson fjord]

real

[trail isle]

does a iphone not show up on computer at all when reboot locked

[copper tendon]

i also love skywalker saga, but not as much

[crimson fjord]

im so upset its not on mac

same

[crimson fjord]

it was a bit disappointing for me

its pretty fun

but it gets old after a while

[copper tendon]

i wish it had multiplayer

[crimson fjord]

ion think ive ever been bored playing tcs

[fossil citrus]

fortune cookie

[copper tendon]

if it had online mp that would have been it's saving grace for me

[crimson fjord]

its so goofy and fun

[indigo bough]

?

[frosty grail]

6🫲😛🫴7

[crimson fjord]

real

wen eta online lego star wars game

[jaunty garnet]

cooked

[fossil citrus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1236159746239893545/1453957796381855804/watermark.gif

[trail isle]

is there ANY way to get into this phone without restoring chat

[crimson fjord]

lego battlefront 2

[ruby copper]

New nickname

[crimson fjord]

absolute peak

[copper tendon]

oh are you using crossover?

[polar python]

@desert cairn @velvet zenith @teal bramble 6🫲😛🫴7

[crimson fjord]

no

im playing on iphone

[indigo bough]

yes

[crimson fjord]

with my backbone

[copper tendon]

oh lol

[indigo bough]

-# no

[vocal plinth]

I can’t do that I would either break my face on the treadmill or hurt someone badly while walking and not looking

[crimson fjord]

usually i'd play via steam but no mac support

[ruby copper]

What's the problem

[copper tendon]

accept

[indigo bough]

use sshrd to save data or sumidk

[polar python]

@ruby copper @wary badge 6🫲😛🫴7

[copper tendon]

i play skywalker saga via crossover and it works great for me

[trail isle]

iphone 6s plus
its mine so itll be on my apple id
but i havent used it in 5 years and forgot the 6 digit pin
but its not in my find my

[frosty grail]

i have the phone sitting on the dash

[trail isle]

some version of ios 15

[indigo bough]

Hi, I'm Maxine.

I'm a 17 year old technology enthusiast. I am most interested in Apple devices, homelabbing, and more.

My Projects:

cobalthelper: a Discord bot that reposts social media photos/videos for everyone to save
forwardrepostbot: a Discord bot that reposts forwarded messages as embeds for older clients
Cydia Repo: Cydia repo with various tweaks, themes, etc.

Social Links:

Twitter
GitHub
Discogs Collection
-# (Spinning PowerMac G4) Made with a Mac

[crimson fjord]

ngl ive found crossover to be kinda dogshit

[copper tendon]

tcs might work better in a vm lowkey since its older

[crimson fjord]

it barely works for me

[jaunty garnet]

[crisp saffron]

if it’s not in find my then it’s not icloud locked iirc

[copper tendon]

unfortunate

[ruby copper]

You can trigger a wipe ( no restore ) with an nvram command in a ssh ramdisk

[indigo bough]

this is true

[polar python]

Hi, I’m Maxine.

[crimson fjord]

i tried to play lego lotr and it just wouldnt

[frosty grail]

dm for icloud bypass (real)

[crimson fjord]

crashed over and over

[frosty grail]

explains a lot about you

[crimson fjord]

wouldnt recognise controller

[crisp saffron]

Hey can we bypass my iphone

[crimson fjord]

very disappointing

[fossil citrus]

wow it worked

[ruby copper]

nvram oblit-inprogress=5

[trail isle]

wipe as in wipe data but keep ios version??

[fossil citrus]

!t jail

[fervent dove]

jail

This Discord server is for iOS Jailbreaking, not discussing plans to break out of prison. Please keep your discussions on-topic, thank you!

Added by nooka | Used 168 times · May 8, 2025, 1:27 PM

[crimson fjord]

skyrim was decent but still not amazing

[frosty grail]

yes, just run it over with a forklift

[trail isle]

i mean itll be on my apple id

[ruby copper]

Yes a factory reset

[trail isle]

hm

[crimson fjord]

also im really confused, why do macs suck such ass at games when their gpus are great

like blender renders are awesome

[trail isle]

but no way to get into it without wiping

[ruby copper]

If u forgot the pin then no

[trail isle]

fuck

[crisp saffron]

because there’s no optimisation for the graphics api

[crimson fjord]

and then when you go to play a game from like 2014 it just cant

[vocal plinth]

That makes sense ofc, but I just can’t pay attention to something else while running on the treadmill. Flying off that shit at those speeds would hurt bad

[trail isle]

oh well

[crimson fjord]

this is why macs need vulkan

metal is a plague

[crisp saffron]

the effort is focused solely on directx/vulkan

well

metal was first

[copper tendon]

i have had issues of this multiple times

[crimson fjord]

metal is apple only

[crisp saffron]

vulkan is a fork of the same thing metal was a fork of

[copper tendon]

it really is annoying

[crimson fjord]

making it barely viable

[trail isle]

how does one do this

[frosty grail]

im launching my own GPU tech and calling it Plastic

[crimson fjord]

indeed

[copper tendon]

only natively supports metal

[crimson fjord]

but then again

[copper tendon]

and opengl, but thats on its last leg

[crimson fjord]

isn't moltenvk supposed to be very low cost?

[rich dune]

https://github.com/verygenericname/SSHRD_Script

[copper tendon]

it is good

[crimson fjord]

from what it seems its actually very HIGH cost

[indigo bough]

am i allowed to send an image of a cd with a ram on it shattered into many pieces?

[copper tendon]

moltenvk is pretty good

[indigo bough]

or would it be a filter bypass

[copper tendon]

so good to where you can get 1000fps in java edition using vulkanmod

[crimson fjord]

every single game ive ever played on my mac bar minecraft with shaders has performed at least 100% under expectations

[trail isle]

the phone isnt even showing up on my computer rn so idk

its charging

[copper tendon]

which chip do you have?

[trail isle]

but nothing in finder

[crimson fjord]

m4 pro

[vocal plinth]

Should call it bolt and claim it runs 50% faster than the current NVIDIA XX90 card

[copper tendon]

yea theres your problem

[glacial valve]

@low mortar titanium edges so sharp they're removing wood from my table

[rich dune]

!t dfu

[glacial valve]

😭

[fervent dove]

Hey @trail isle, have a look at this!

dfu

DFU (Device Firmware Upgrade) mode is a mode which allows a device in any condition to be restored to a fresh version of iOS (not to be confused with Recovery Mode). This can also be used to jailbreak using checkra1n and palera1n!

For how to restore in DFU mode, see /tag dfurestore

Added by eric#1997 | Used 1,625 times · Dec 21, 2020, 11:21 PM

[glacial valve]

Same happened with paint earlier

[copper tendon]

even with an m4 max the performance is meh for me in some games

[crimson fjord]

how is having an m4 pro a problem

[glacial valve]

😭

[crimson fjord]

yeah thats the real problem

[trail isle]

i know how to get into dfu mode

[copper tendon]

not as much gpu cores

[glacial valve]

it is if you don't got 48GB ram

[ruby copper]

Since when does the m4 max exist

[crimson fjord]

i have 48gb of ram

lol

[glacial valve]

m4 pro?

[crimson fjord]

yes

[glacial valve]

I need 48GB m4 pro

24 not enough for me

[crimson fjord]

and on the whole it works great

[copper tendon]

yea but the m4 pro only has 20 gpu cores

[crimson fjord]

but for games

[copper tendon]

vs 40 on the unbinned max

[trail isle]

im gonna get a new screen for this 6s plus at some point

[crimson fjord]

bro who cares

it was a 5k laptop

[copper tendon]

how was that 5k

[crimson fjord]

apple doesn't regionally price

[copper tendon]

i spent less than 5k on my unbinned m4 max 64gb 2tb one

damn

[crimson fjord]

they do straight conversion then add 1k

[glacial valve]

europe pov

[crimson fjord]

australia

[glacial valve]

you get an automatic +500 buf

for living in europe

[versed sun]

Was a cracked iPhone X worth $45

[crimson fjord]

true

but you also get government that makes decent ish changes

[crisp saffron]

Sounds like an eu problem i’m too uk to understand

[crimson fjord]

either way

im not from europe

i wouldnt know

[copper tendon]

you also pay more

[glacial valve]

you're getting fucked too mate

[ruby copper]

fr

[copper tendon]

they do a 1 to 1 usd to pound conversion

[crimson fjord]

then again

[ruby copper]

It's anywhere non US

[crimson fjord]

in america they dont include tax at purchase right?

[copper tendon]

the pound is stronger than the dollar lol

[crimson fjord]

the pound is stronger than the dollar

[crisp saffron]

tbf i did not get fucked on my phone

[copper tendon]

yea

[crisp saffron]

15 pro 256gb for under 1k

[crimson fjord]

they do include it?

or they dont

[velvet zenith]

I bet you enjoy getting fucked

[copper tendon]

they dont

[ruby copper]

In Europe they take the dollar amount, ADD 200 TO IT, and then convert it to euros

[crimson fjord]

yeah thats dogshit

[ruby copper]

Like what the fuck

[crimson fjord]

tax is part of the price

[trail isle]

iBoot-2234.0.0.3.3
how do i see what ios this would be

[crimson fjord]

its not like its some optional fee

[ruby copper]

The euro is literally worth more than the dollar

[crisp saffron]

well is this pre tax or post tax

[ruby copper]

I paid $1400 for my base model 256GB 8GB ram m2 mba

[crimson fjord]

in australia tax is always included

which is great

[ruby copper]

Idk if that's what it's in the US after tax

[crisp saffron]

tax is the great equaliser

[crimson fjord]

cus then you get to see what an item actually costs at face value

[glacial valve]

base M5 is 1599 GBP = 2153,37 USD
base M5 is 1799 EUR = 2110,14 USD
base M5 is 1599 USD

[copper tendon]

if apple actually wanted to work with game devs and support vulkan and update opengl it could get better

[ruby copper]

well tax is included in the price here but doesn't the entire point of the tax to go to the government and not Apple

[velvet zenith]

@desert cairn Hi

[crimson fjord]

part of apple does

[glacial valve]

You get a +500 for living in europe

[vocal plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/lie-lies-liar-bullshit-so-that-was-gif-15334130

[crimson fjord]

most of apple doesn't

[copper tendon]

they like when devs port their entire game to mac and put it on the app store

[crimson fjord]

we wouldn't have gotten gptk if they didnt care

[copper tendon]

which is 0% of games

[crimson fjord]

yeah

its dogshit

[crisp saffron]

yeah but that base m5 in uk is including tax

[ruby copper]

Damn this sentence is not coherent but yall get what I mean

[crimson fjord]

ngl

[ruby copper]

I'm tired

[crimson fjord]

they just need to partner with steam

thats really what they have to do

[copper tendon]

they did this in the past

proton used to work on mac

[crimson fjord]

yeah but now they hate each other

[crisp saffron]

so take away 20% from the uk price

[copper tendon]

but apple were the ones that broke the bridge

[crisp saffron]

then compare to us

[crimson fjord]

i know

[copper tendon]

so valve decided to leave unfortunately

[crimson fjord]

also no 32 bit apps on mac kills all legacy gaming

[copper tendon]

oh yea that to

[crimson fjord]

at least half my library used to work on mac

but doesn't now

bcus no 32 bit app support

and my library is like 200 games

[copper tendon]

tbf that would be like impossible on arm

[crimson fjord]

no

just use translation

[ruby copper]

Well $1400 isn't 121% ( 21% tax here in the NL ) of $1000

[crimson fjord]

windows does it

[trail isle]

im just gonna restore it

[jaunty garnet]

forgot this was possible

[ruby copper]

They're still overcharging

[crimson fjord]

windows on arm has no problems translating

[copper tendon]

yea but then devs would have had to convert their apps from 32 bit x86 to arm64

when apple switch to apple silicon

[crimson fjord]

what

the devs dont do shit

apple integrates like rosetta 3

and its system level

like it is on windows

[copper tendon]

i dont wanna use rosetta for everything though

[ruby copper]

Aren't they removing Rosetta

[crisp saffron]

the problem with 32bit is you need 32 bit binaries for everything it could interact with

[trail isle]

apparently

[copper tendon]

after macos 27 yes

[crimson fjord]

THEYRE REMOVING ROSETTA???

why apple why

[trail isle]

so it will be in 27 or what

[copper tendon]

well they said theyd support it for like legacy games

[copper tendon]

yes it will be in 27

[glacial valve]

That's still europe/uk fucking with you

[trail isle]

ok

[glacial valve]

also it comes out more expensive

by 200

[crimson fjord]

its so funny bcus apple is good at supporting their own devices with their own software

but so absolutely dogshit at supporting legacy software from other devs

while windows is absolutely goated at the latter

but sucks at the former

[trail isle]

im surprised ios 15 is 5 gb

[crimson fjord]

and then linux kinda sucks at both

[trail isle]

seems big for 15

[crimson fjord]

unfortunately

[desert cairn]

@low mortar

[copper tendon]

do people actually buy surface laptops

[crisp saffron]

i mean not really it’s just hidden way deeper in checkout for americans

[crimson fjord]

yes

[copper tendon]

i know people bought the intel ones

[crimson fjord]

surprisingly

they dont like them

[copper tendon]

but snapdragon ones, do they?

[crimson fjord]

from those ive met

yeah

2 of my friends did

they hate them

windows on arm is so half baked

[copper tendon]

because the only reason id want to willingfully use windows is all the games and programs support, but going snapdragon kinda defeats that purpose

[desert cairn]

Hey

[glacial valve]

2200 - 20% is still 1790, usa is 1600. The difference is still 200

:/

[crimson fjord]

yeah ngl the more ive used macos and linux the more i hate winodws but it cant be beat for program support

i guess thats what 30 years of industry domination gets you

[crisp saffron]

Still not as bad as implied

[crimson fjord]

although to be fair they do actively put quite a lot of effort into supporting legacy programs

which i greatly appreciate

[crisp saffron]

europe might suffer but uk is fine

[crimson fjord]

and have sorely missed on macos

[glacial valve]

yeah but you still pay 10% extra

[crimson fjord]

apple doesn't provide any support for any legacy apps

they actively hate you using legacy apps

[gilded rapids]

sending you some ai slop Reddit stories

https://youtu.be/-m5sQ7Tw4yU?si=0lhv5CCl5f1h1t7V

[crimson fjord]

heres hoping that new admin at apple will change things

[dense zinc]

tf

[crisp saffron]

Lol

[trail isle]

alan dye leaving is the biggest W apple has had in a while

[frosty grail]

@gilded rapids @glacial valve @crisp saffron @desert cairn if you bury a cow in the soil and grass grows from it, can you say it's all natural, beef-fed grass?

[glacial valve]

fr

[crimson fjord]

dye really doesn't matter

[gilded rapids]

yes

[crimson fjord]

the issues for apple are so much deeper than ui

ui is such a nothingburger

[crisp saffron]

scapegoat executive

[copper tendon]

the ui is the least of apple's issues imo

[crimson fjord]

exactly

[frosty grail]

apple

[copper tendon]

the ui is fine now

[trail isle]

apple

[copper tendon]

the stability of the operating system on the other hand

[crisp saffron]

the design is good it’s poorly executed

[frosty grail]

ui is fine, ux is bad

[trail isle]

its just buggy as fuck

[frosty grail]

theyre two different things

[crimson fjord]

either way

[gilded rapids]

idk how that rcs works on Apple devices I might jump ship to a galaxy again

[crimson fjord]

who cares its such a nothingness when your software is fundamentally broken

[crisp saffron]

Don’t bother

it’s still a third class experience

[gilded rapids]

I used to have both flagships

[frosty grail]

always will be

[gilded rapids]

I stopped after the S6 edge

[crisp saffron]

even on the carrier level

[gilded rapids]

but I loved that phone

[crisp saffron]

i’ve transferred my phone number to a new line

[frosty grail]

android users gaslighting themselves into enjoying the android experience

[crisp saffron]

my rcs still has not changed number

[crimson fjord]

my wishes for apple are

please make good game integration with steam and fix your obsession with games being on the app store

please for the love of god fix the 100s of bugs in your software left unfixed for 5 years

fix macos tahoe altogether it sucks

dont remove rosetta, nobody is converting everything to arm64 stop dreaming it didnt happen with 32 -> 64 bit it wont happen now

please pay more attention to quality in your software overall

[gilded rapids]

Imo Tahoe doesn’t look on Macs

[copper tendon]

the only things in that list that will happen is tahoe fixes

[crisp saffron]

thing is

nobody misses powerpc software

[copper tendon]

we're not talking about powerpc software

[gilded rapids]

My boomer take is that I hate the colorful iMacs it looks unprofessional but I guess now you just buy a Studio Display and mini for that look

[copper tendon]

we're talking about x86 intel apps

[crimson fjord]

which lots of people miss

[copper tendon]

^

[low mortar]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G9X7rGtXwAAREG5.gif

[trail isle]

yeah but pcs werent powerpc in 2006
its different this time

[crisp saffron]

apple is right to force developers to get with the times as much as microsoft is right to bloat the fuck out of their operating system supporting one edge case from a windows 95 beta

[copper tendon]

no one even remembers any powerpc software that didnt get updated

[velvet zenith]

The pros of android is that apps can basically do whatever they want but the cons of android is that apps can do basically whatever they want and also its android

[crisp saffron]

same will apply

[trail isle]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-moo-miss-may-gif-21457095

[velvet zenith]

the android developing experience is terrible

[copper tendon]

untrue because gaming is a thing now

[crimson fjord]

the difference is even to this day people hate the 32 bit removal

it hasnt gone away

it probably wont ever go away

[velvet zenith]

i love iap2 over whatever im doing with android

[copper tendon]

gaming wasn't nearly as prevalent in powerpc days

[ruby copper]

Gn

[crimson fjord]

because not all things can be updated

the idea is cool

[gilded rapids]

idk bro that’s really niche

[crimson fjord]

i get where apple is coming from

but the problem is they have NO other alternative for the cases where you cannot update your software

[gilded rapids]

all of it is really nice but I think the general consumer doesn’t care like this 🥀

[low mortar]

Gn

[crisp saffron]

literally

32bit is annoying to support

[copper tendon]

how...?

[crimson fjord]

its really not that bad

sure its a bit of extra bloat bcus you need more libs and slices

but it really isn't that bad

considering how much other useless bloat macos has and doesnt need

[copper tendon]

if you're app doesnt need more than 4gb of ram you build an x86 binary, it works on x86 and amd64 systems

[crimson fjord]

i dont think bloat is a big deal for apple

[crisp saffron]

you need 32bit versions of the libraries you are using

which means apple needs to compile 32 bit versions of everything

[copper tendon]

ok and that takes up how much space?

[desert cairn]

Fuck you

[crimson fjord]

barely any ngl

[trail isle]

the existence of this app is an issue for me

[copper tendon]

this isnt 2000

[low mortar]

It would add another 3gb to the os

[desert cairn]

Boo hoo get over it

[copper tendon]

we have 1tb ssds

[crimson fjord]

yeah so like

a quarter of apple intelligence

lmao

[trail isle]

i want to be able to uninstall it

[copper tendon]

boohoo it takes a few extra gigs for 32 bit compiles

[crimson fjord]

also

if its REALLY that bad

[velvet zenith]

What

[low mortar]

But why do we need 32bit

[crimson fjord]

make it optional like you do with, say, apple intelligence

[low mortar]

Like what’s the argument

[desert cairn]

Muh deletable app

[copper tendon]

legacy games

[crimson fjord]

games and legacy software

[trail isle]

not on mac

[crimson fjord]

not just legacy games just most games in general ngl

[gilded rapids]

who actually uses Apple Intelligence 😭

[crimson fjord]

most mac games were 32 bit

[versed sun]

Would a iPhone XS display work on a iPhone X

[desert cairn]

no one except for notification summaries

[gilded rapids]

real

[trail isle]

i highly doubt it

[velvet zenith]

@desert cairn @limber temple @real cobalt Do i pay ts with a credit card

[low mortar]

No

[crimson fjord]

but also a tonne of legacy plugins for DAWs

[hardy pendant]

Anyone know how to add music to my iphone library with ifuse?

[desert cairn]

What do you think

[copper tendon]

half of my library used to work on macs, and now another half of it doesnt because 32 bit support is gone

[desert cairn]

Yeah why not

[velvet zenith]

idk

[crimson fjord]

indeed

[velvet zenith]

i wonder if it even lets me

[crimson fjord]

removing rosetta is even worse

[copper tendon]

so now like a quarter of my steam game library works on my mac

when it used to be half

[crimson fjord]

theres gonna be so much software that wont ever be updated for arm64

[velvet zenith]

goated

[hardy pendant]

Just switch to Linux

[crisp saffron]

i don’t imagine it’ll go away fully

just more inaccessible

[gilded rapids]

Oh shit I just realized I left the tv in my living room on all night and day

bro

[copper tendon]

such a non argument

we arent even talking about windows or linux

[desert cairn]

[hardy pendant]

It indeed was not an argument

[crisp saffron]

in conclusion don’t buy a machine that locked you out of your games well before you bought that machine

[low mortar]

It is weird how Apple would rather you play those games through gptk

[raven pine]

hello

[copper tendon]

not really a fix to the problem

[crimson fjord]

ngl the biggest thing for me is its so awful how apple would rather remove things that people ACTUALLY USE and instead add in a whole bunch of crap that they never remove that people NEVER USE

good example is the Audio Unit plugins

Which are fucking ancient

nobody uses them

[crisp saffron]

it’s a fix from it happening to you again

[copper tendon]

this is actually so true as well

[crimson fjord]

they take up space

theyve been tehre for god knows how long

havent really ever been updated

[gilded rapids]

They are a business

[trail isle]

screen broken so funny timelapse

[gilded rapids]

profit

[untold helm]

I just use Jellyfin

[copper tendon]

apple literally removes useful stuff and adds bloat that no one needs

[crimson fjord]

yep

[hardy pendant]

Will that put the music in my library permanently or just stream it?

[crimson fjord]

and it sucks

[low mortar]

Yet you still buy it

[versed sun]

How much would the iPhone X be worth to sell unlocked and has a cracked front

[crimson fjord]

unfortunately the alternatives are also shit

[copper tendon]

dont really have any other options

[gilded rapids]

https://youtu.be/-JbIOGGTRTY?si=oUvHTkuxQ-eqdbs2

x

[copper tendon]

when the other options are just as bad or worse

[untold helm]

It’s a self hosted solution similar to plex but fully open source and free, some Jellyfin clients have support for downloading

[gilded rapids]

tldr cheap labor

[crimson fjord]

there really isn't any windows laptop ive seen that rivals a macbook

[slim nova]

aw hell naw

[crimson fjord]

even if you're willing to spend ludicrous amounts of money

which, tbh, if you're buying a macbook, you already are

macbooks are extremely costly

[copper tendon]

the more you spend on a windows laptop the worse your battery life gets lol

[trail isle]

the iphone didnt even have any activation lock wtf

wait

it might have

[low mortar]

I just don’t think macOS is that bad

[copper tendon]

we aren't arguing that macos is bad

we're arguing apple is making stupid decisions

[gilded rapids]

average consumer be like 😭

[slim nova]

i mean macos is the only clean os on the market backed by a big company

[crimson fjord]

macOS is flawed in stupid ways

Is the problem

[gilded rapids]

@crisp saffron 😭

[crimson fjord]

It could be the best OS out there

[low mortar]

The 32bit drop is just such a non issue in 2026

[copper tendon]

ok if so lets do the same for windows

[untold helm]

It took them until sequoia for window snapping..

[trail isle]

time to install trollstore and dopamine i guess

[untold helm]

Since I’m still on Monterey I use rectangle

[copper tendon]

microsoft should drop 32 bit app support

[crimson fjord]

Cmd tab STILL sucks

[slim nova]

spider web

[crisp saffron]

except this goes entirely against microsoft’s philosophy with windows

[trail isle]

the screen is so cooked
ill replace it soon

[slim nova]

watch system32 shit crumple

[low mortar]

I am in favour of this

[copper tendon]

it would actually be syswow64

[copper tendon]

why

[crimson fjord]

They won’t

[slim nova]

syswow64

[crimson fjord]

Microsoft’s biggest customer is enterprise

[untold helm]

I’ve seen doctors and dentist use applications made for windows 98

[crimson fjord]

They’d be raked over the coals

Thank god

[trail isle]

considering you can get 16bit software to run in windows 11 i doubt that would happen

[untold helm]

It’s too risky mainly for enterprise and businesses

[crimson fjord]

There’s uncountable amounts of software that’d cease to work that is still used to this day

Especially in enterprise

It’s not gonna happen

[copper tendon]

steam would not work

[crisp saffron]

it would

[slim nova]

Windows 98

[crimson fjord]

Fortunately for the consumer

[low mortar]

Steam literally just mandated 64 bit

[slim nova]

or xp

[copper tendon]

yea just now lol

[untold helm]

If it does happen it would be a downloadable “32Bit app compatibility” download

[trail isle]

is iphone 6s A8 or A9

[copper tendon]

ok the launcher works, a large portion of steam games would not work

[crimson fjord]

Yeah

[low mortar]

They could have so much sooner

They just chose not to

[crimson fjord]

They won’t remove 32 bit support for at least another 10 years

I guarantee it

[low mortar]

But making it 64Bit makes so much sense for steam

[slim nova]

cool

[crimson fjord]

There’s too much 32 bit software still used

[untold helm]

(And sometimes it’s accidentally, I’m looking at you discord)

[gilded rapids]

again I don’t think the average consumer which happens to be the majority really cares 😭

[crimson fjord]

Yeah but in Microsoft’s case their market isn’t the average consumer

That’s not where they make their money

They make it from enterprise who very much cares

[trail isle]

is it possible to control an iphone from a mac

ios 15

[slim nova]

they should separate them like nt and 9x

[copper tendon]

yea this is true

[crimson fjord]

Too much effort

[copper tendon]

i think it'd be possible

[crimson fjord]

Microsoft like any other company is lazy

[low mortar]

Not really

Well

You can with a jb

But idk if that applies here

[trail isle]

well im trying TO jailbreak

so

but the screens so cooked

[crimson fjord]

Palera1n?

[trail isle]

dopamine

trollstore

[crimson fjord]

Yeah I’m saying use palera1n

Then you’ll have ssh access

[trail isle]

the screen works for like 5 seconds when i turn it on from sleep then just stops responding

[untold helm]

TrollVNC

[slim nova]

but the one size fits all tactic will fail tho

[trail isle]

i just need to do it bit by bit

[crimson fjord]

Wdym

How is it failing

It’s working great for them rn

[slim nova]

eventually fail

[crimson fjord]

Unlikely

Enterprise generally takes about a decade to move

[crisp saffron]

all i will say

[crimson fjord]

Hence why I said about 10 years

[crisp saffron]

it is ridiculous we still have 32 bit apps in current year

[copper tendon]

it is

[crisp saffron]

64bit is over 20 years old atp

[copper tendon]

but it isnt our faults

its companies

[crimson fjord]

Kinda and also not really, lots of apps are abandoned

[velvet zenith]

yeah they should double the bits again

[crimson fjord]

And that’s perfectly fine

It’s not the developers responsibility to support their app until the end of time

[lean mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066379459088892006/1427612700875165696/caption.gif

[trail isle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066379459088892006/1427612700875165696/caption.gif

[crisp saffron]

even ms are doing it

[untold helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1066379459088892006/1427612700875165696/caption.gif

[crimson fjord]

Yep

Tells you how far off 32 bit removal is

[trail isle]

i have just come to the realisation i have to enter my wifi password to do this

bluetooth keyboard it is

[copper tendon]

on windows its not even fucking close

[crisp saffron]

i mean

it is

i have 2 apps

both i could live without

both are actively maintained

[copper tendon]

there are still a bunch of x86 games

[crimson fjord]

The other thing is yeah games

Microsoft has 2 major audiences

Enterprise

And gamers

Both don’t want 32 bit support removed

It’d be a bad business decision

[crisp saffron]

games is w/e they wouldn't remove it

[crimson fjord]

W/e?

[crisp saffron]

whatever

[untold helm]

What benefit would Microsoft have for removing 32 bit

[crimson fjord]

Exactly

It’s only downside for them

[vocal plinth]

That ain't an audience that MS cares about. Enterprise is where they make their money from.

[copper tendon]

none

microsoft doesnt give a shit about gamers

[crisp saffron]

actual benefits would probably just be security

[crimson fjord]

Which they don’t particularly care about

[green sequoia]

i hate ms

[untold helm]

@winter meadow do you hate lucas

[vocal plinth]

Gamers don't even make significant percentage where MS would even count them

[lean mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/cate-gif-26111613

[crimson fjord]

That’s not true

[vocal plinth]

It is very true

[crimson fjord]

But it’s not a super large priority

[green sequoia]

gurt: yo

[crimson fjord]

It objectively isn’t if you look at their quarterly revenue

Companies don’t throw away free money

[crisp saffron]

the xbox division is currently shooting itself in the foot over and over until it bleeds out

[crimson fjord]

It’s decent enough to be worth it to them

[crimson fjord]

This is also true

[gilded rapids]

are u guys still debating?

[copper tendon]

xbox just needs to die at this point

[crimson fjord]

Different debate

Well

Not debat

Conversation

[crisp saffron]

it would be horrific for the industry

[hardy pendant]

I figured it out, you need to set the default app in Filza to VLC then when you open it, it will get added to your library

[crimson fjord]

Xbox is already horrific for the industry tbh

[crisp saffron]

yeah but xbox is the grounding point

crossplay wouldn't have happened without xbox

[crimson fjord]

It’s true but it’s becoming less and less of a thing

Consoles in general are or were dying

Now the ram crisis is a thing idk anymore

[crisp saffron]

temporary

[vocal plinth]

Xbox/PC gamers percentage is very small you have remember the only reason anything get developed for PC is because it is a platform for developing for other system like xbox or PS

[crimson fjord]

It’ll be at least 2-3 years before it’s resolved

[copper tendon]

the ram crisis doesnt seem temporary

[crimson fjord]

That’s a lot of money

[crisp saffron]

the contract is temporary

openai will not have money forever

[vocal plinth]

Micron really fucked everyone over

[copper tendon]

they already make enough money

[vocal plinth]

Well I mean AI did but same thing

[crimson fjord]

OpenAI is a single player

And while yes the ai bubble will pop

[crisp saffron]

if openai dies then ram is about to flood the market at an extremely disgusting rate

[crimson fjord]

I doubt it’ll be soon

[crimson fjord]

Most likely not

[crisp saffron]

used yes

new no

[crimson fjord]

From all of what we’ve seen in the past generally it doesn’t happen like that

[crisp saffron]

they will keep the price point high

[copper tendon]

theres so many other ai chatbots that openai dying probably wouldnt do much for ram prices

[crimson fjord]

Server components aren’t really sold in the same way

Plus it’s not really consumer ram

[crisp saffron]

covid brought it down by accident

[vocal plinth]

I mean it is like 7 or 8 companies passing money around each other until the death loop is complete

[crimson fjord]

Most of it can’t even be used as consumer ram

Without immense cost

[hardy pendant]

I was under the impression PC was the biggest gaming platform in terms of both game availability and number of gamers, and I don't see any source disagreeing with that notion

[crisp saffron]

mobile shits all over anything in player numbers

[copper tendon]

mobile gaming is bigger

[hardy pendant]

I don't see any source for that though

[crimson fjord]

Plus idk if the tech industry can survive 3 years of 900 dollars for 32gb of ddr5

Assuming it stays that low

[hardy pendant]

It's probably true, I just don't see a source for it

[gilded rapids]

@trail isle I might start biking again but it’s winter lol

[copper tendon]

i mean you can just look it up

[hardy pendant]

I did

[gilded rapids]

biking in 5°c weather idk

[narrow crown]

since when are we on ddr5

[crimson fjord]

Since like 5 years ago

[narrow crown]

huh

[hardy pendant]

AppSync lets you run unsigned IPAs AFAIK, you use it through Filza if you want to install an app without using the AppStore

[vocal plinth]

What does that have to do with the total percentage still being insignificant to MS?

[thick tapir]

forever

[crisp saffron]

iirc it's half of the entire industry

[copper tendon]

if you wanna read tho: https://www.blog.udonis.co/mobile-marketing/mobile-games/gaming-industry sources are at the bottom if you scroll down

[hardy pendant]

Microsoft?

[crimson fjord]

Yeah mobile gaming is massive

[vocal plinth]

Yes

[trail isle]

too cold

[gilded rapids]

fr

Idk how people can bike in the cold

I’m a wimp

bro idk go ask ai

[vocal plinth]

Your body gets up to temp over time when moving that much

[copper tendon]

its a basic file manager bro

you press on the folder it goes into the folder

[hardy pendant]

What about Microsoft?

[narrow crown]

can this be in #jailbreak

[green sequoia]

then it isnt installed

[trail isle]

no cuz my UNANSWERED support message will get flooded

[narrow crown]

ur mem ed figure it out yourself

[wide canyon]

[gilded rapids]

who is u

[narrow crown]

i dont know but she gay as hell i just know it

[trail isle]

i did not make palera1n

[gilded rapids]

[narrow crown]

@ruby copper

[green sequoia]

2017 join date wth

[trail isle]

i already pinged him lmao

[green sequoia]

bros OG