off-topic

[marsh helm]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/dlss4-multi-frame-generation-ai-innovations/

this is how it works

[left mulch]

yeah I wouldn't say I am really an expert or anything but I haven't come across a better tasting scotch at that price

[marsh helm]

hahahaha

[brazen thunder]

still probably too early. we'll have to see what of this is actual performance uplift vs DLSS and how much general public cares about the difference

[compact lark]

is that run vs walk speed? money printer company can't walk a straight line

weird how neither video can match the others traversal speed

[marsh helm]

new encoder and decoder

also the 5090 has up to 3 encoding at once

5080 and 5070ti 2

[left mulch]

isn't that referring to physical encoders? all of them can spin up 4x+ encoding sessions at once

[marsh helm]

not sure

i can hover over the tooltip

[void gale]

Rtx 4090 = Rtx 5070
🎣

[marsh helm]

lies

all lieees

[void gale]

DLSS4 is exclusive to Rtx 5xxx series only?

[marsh helm]

50 series uses a new frame gen called

MFG

which makes 4 ai genereated frames

[void gale]

damn i need to buy new gpu again? my god

[marsh helm]

so its liees

yes

REMEMBER THE MORE YOU BUY

THE MORE MONEY YOU SAVE

[void gale]

I could have purchased Rtx 5090 or Rtx 5080 instead of Rtx 4090 :(

[marsh helm]

this is intereting

https://youtu.be/UjnEiP9a9kQ

Dune: Awakening | 4K NVIDIA DLSS 4 Comparison - Captured on GeForce RTX 5090
i cant see any obvious issues but its moving slow

who here is smart

```To address the complexities of generating multiple frames, Blackwell uses hardware Flip Metering, which shifts the frame pacing logic to the display engine, enabling the GPU to more precisely manage display timing. The Blackwell display engine has also been enhanced with twice the pixel processing capability to support higher resolutions and refresh rates for hardware Flip Metering with DLSS 4.````

what does this mean?

[sudden adder]

Bigger numbers do better ™️

from what i have found via google searches, Flip Metering is a way to reduce frame stuttering, but potentially raises input lag. And has apparently existed for awhile

The last sentence is fairly self-explanatory.

[drowsy mason]

So they are competing with Lossless Scaling (an indie group who figured out 3x and 4x framegen months ago) and modders (who figured out how to replace DLLs in game folders to update the DLSS version in the game ages ago)

Good to know all the trillions of $ are keeping them ahead of the curve

[drowsy mason]

"Flip" is switching a backbuffer and a frontbuffer so the display will show the new picture, something like that. Metering is just a synonym for pacing here. Sounds like they worked on frame pacing so the generated frames would look smooth. It sounds like they're chucking finished frame visuals in buffers/memory somewhere and then waiting to make the pacing decision till the last possible moment, in hardware and closer to the "display out" part of the card, (for best results, I guess. Kinda makes sense but I'm reading between the lines/guessing tho, and who knows if it works well or not without proper testing.)

Reminds me of when they paid more attention to pacing for multi-GPU situations (SLI) than AMD did at the time (Crossfire) and their multi-GPU solution was much better for it. (Per DigitalFoundry, at least. I never saw SLI or Crossfire in person...)

But don't trust an Nvidia claim until it's been cross-examined by benchmarkers

[sudden adder]

• dont trust rumors until the product is officially announced
• dont trust official bullet points until third parties test real world products

[marsh helm]

@drowsy mason https://youtu.be/qQn3bsPNTyI you may like this

its the only indepth tech video that shows before and after the upgrade

and i do have to say that damn does it look good

in all of the videos ive seen theres no flicker anymore

no weird artifacts

and the best part is it comes to all rtx cards

[drowsy mason]

No I don't like that guy. He makes stuff seem cool but too cool for what it is. And his outfit is hypnotic.

[marsh helm]

but those are cool glasses tho

[drowsy mason]

Mind control Nvidia PR 😵‍💫 <-- me while watching

[marsh helm]

im just glad that nvidia learned something

and is brining this to older cards from the onset

[drowsy mason]

Yes, but also mind control, so no I must ressist

[marsh helm]

the dune gameplay looked soo smooth and like dlss wasnt even on because there was 0 smearing

i checked frame by frame O_O

[drowsy mason]

If they do it for Warframe flickshots/quick aiming I'll be impressed

(I gotta stop being such a curmudgeon. Will wait for proper reviewer content about it.)

[marsh helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELzHzkKceXY

MSI's Top Shelf RTX 50 Series GPUs

🐉

[drowsy mason]

The fact they are still comparing FPS numbers for "DLSS on" "DLSS Off" without saying which internal resolution, and now whether it's 2x, 3x or 4x framegen or framegen off, it's pretty bad form and very near going on meaningless.

[jaunty fulcrum]

this is normal for every hardware company in the past like 15 years

[void gale]

DLSS 3.5 VS 4 (Rtx 4090 VS Rtx 5090 is 2x times faster)

[compact lark]

website https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/50-series/

I don't turn on dlss or framegen so I don't know the 'default' of "FG" is on 40 series
going by 40 series chart below, they wanted to sell you on getting x2 perf with 'FG' on.. so them aiming at x2 fg vs x4 MFG isn't a surprise

I was curious about 2024 flight sim, see if that game ran better... but it's a lot of mixed reviews on steam and nvidia didn't even showcase it that launched 1.5 months ago

[marsh helm]

these charts are full of bs

this is darktide

use this as a benchmark

this is cyberpunk with rt on

thats also a good benchmark for actual performance

[marsh helm]

thats coming to all rtx cards

so nothing that special

outside of it being DAMN good

[drowsy mason]

Remains to be seen if it's actually a nice experience to game with Performance mode spatial upscaling and x4 framegen. (And if those are realistic FPS numbers in the first place.)

[compact lark]

there isn't a shared scene from 40 series, so we cannot compare when they tried to sell us on dlss 3 on overdrive

I'm sure tom from DF will break check and donut in an ally at some point https://youtu.be/uDQ8A3XWYiA?t=876 5:43 too

[livid plover]

I love they just straight gave up on making shit nice and capable so fake it and pretend the consumers aren't the most gullible clowns who'll buy anything for a bigger number

[compact lark]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbNwO4HXTIk
cough we'll have to see the new chart after any import tariffs

[terse helm]

do I see correctly that the FE 5090 is a two-slot gpu?

I do, that's crazy

[marsh helm]

yeah it says its SFF ready

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/small-form-factor-sff-ready/

also these

[terse helm]

well, for a rather large definition of "small"

[marsh helm]

this isnt bad

i like the white

[marsh helm]

most of the comments in the video are being very wise and seeing past the bs

they have seen this all before

[carmine ibex]

https://youtu.be/zpDxo2m6Sko

Took me two watches to understand

[terse helm]

hm

Sony is making a Horizon Zero Dawn movie

I hope it'll be good

I enjoyed the fuck out of that game

[copper notch]

Hey, don't knock it! Gin is excellent for removing wax from linoleum floors! Just gotta use it for what it was made for and it is great!

[plucky ivy]

Nah bro u wild af for that 😭

[opaque halo]

<@&715347355565817879>

[plucky ivy]

Bro u finna get banned 😭

<@&715347355565817879> HE IS BEING GAYCIST

Why you even care lol

Imagine being so upset by people living their own lives

Smh

How so

Buddy got real quiet

[civic quarry]

Don't feed the troll

[amber sparrow]

heh, still cant update to 24h2(not mad about it) but I wanted to run an all day test on the app audio capture issue

[left mulch]

probably EAC blocking for you, that was the case with myself.

but I just uninstalled the service and it let me update, reinstalled after and haven't had issues.

[amber sparrow]

still funny they havent been able to properly sort the EAC thing. the issues list has a couple things that would probably impact me and those things dont have an expected fix yet

[still mica]

My system is forcing me to update. :/

[amber sparrow]

what in the what

[prisma dove]

Can't make me update, you're not my mother

[wary holly]

installing updates
do not resist

[patent gull]

how do i play steam windows games on mac?

[livid plover]

parallels maybe. or bootcamp and install windows

[copper notch]

I wonder how well Windows/x64 runs on Mx silicon

A buddy has an M2 but doesn't want to have Windows stuff on it

[terse helm]

well, it doesn't

you'd have to emulate an x86-64 cpu

it's generally probably nicer to just run windows ARM in a vm and use its translation to run x86 software

which I have tried and works well

[marsh helm]

asus says they will announce something on the 24th

[terse helm]

I ran obs that way, with x264 encoding, and it worked fine

[dire sluice]

Can anyone tell me where to find Custom Icons Free/Paid?? I have some Shortcuts I put on desktop and its just the generic looking Icon?? And what is the name of the File that I should be looking for, .jpeg isn't working.

[open rune]

A Google search for "free windows icon pack" seems to turn up a lot of results

[dire sluice]

Thank You, I used different wording and got wallpaper

[drowsy mason]

Digital Foundry took a look at DLSS4, not final hardware/drivers, only had 5 hours to get test clips (might be stuff they missed), but as a first look in one game, they were positive about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpzufsxtZpA

It's feeling like Blackwell is "Gimmicks Done Right" ™️

[left heart]

I feel like the whole "gimmick" critique for graphics stuff doesn't mean much. it's eye candy, it's supposed to be gimmicks.

[drowsy mason]

If game devs have to assume competent upscaling and framegen to be playable at high settings, and it's locked behind proprietary single-vendor-only implementations of said upscaling and framegen, Nvidia may get to eat the full PC gaming GPU market and basically force AMD and intel out of the market.

[left heart]

I remember people dismissing tessellation because it was "gimmicky." and I'm just thinking, "yeah... that's the point"

[drowsy mason]

So Nvidia's tech is real and works, but it is seriously worth zooming out and asking "can the industry be healthy if we stake everything on one hardware vendor?"

Also: this stuff hasn't traditionally worked on Nvidia's entry-tier stuff. Base/rasterization framerate hasn't been good enough on those to feed into full 4K Performance DLSS + framegen (in a lot of games, max setings, etc.).

So, like, it raises the price of entry to "peak current gen graphics" even more

[open rune]

Is anyone expecting the low end cards to drive 4K or run "peak current gen graphics"

That seems like pretty squarely enthusiast territory

[terse helm]

lots of people are going "5070 = $600 4090"

so I assume they're all expectingi t

[left mulch]

heh it isn't even "lots of people"....this is the exact language NVIDIA themselves are using.

[left heart]

yeah I don't believe that one

[open rune]

So it's just marketing then

[terse helm]

yeah it's based entirely on improvements to DLSS Frame gen

the 4090 can generate 1 frame, the 50 series can generate 4 or sometihng

so that's 4x performance!

[open rune]

Frame generation is awesome in the right situations but I'm curious how they have improved quality enough that they can squeeze out an extra three frames without it looking a mess. You can already see artifacting on the generated frames now if you look closely

[vernal current]

hi nerds

[amber sparrow]

NoU

[vernal current]

no u

was sapiens the best mod of 2024?

[amber sparrow]

Nah

Mid at best

[vernal current]

it was a trick question

[terse helm]

the best mid

[vernal current]

he is the best mod every year

[amber sparrow]

Dilaz > sapiens

[vernal current]

deez wat?

[prisma dove]

what the hell?

you don't know deez

[prisma dove]

Is there a cash prize?

[vernal current]

why would there be a prize?

he does it because he is selfless

anyone wanna recommend a 90s sci fi or action movie?

[open rune]

Total Recall

[prisma dove]

Running Man

Lawnmower Man

[open rune]

Johnny Mnemonic

[prisma dove]

Demolition Man

Bicentennial Man (with a cerebral Robin Williams)

I'm seeing a trend in movie titles...

[vernal current]

i was always weary of this movie...is it actually good?

[vernal current]

watched both the OG and remae

i am not sure if i saw the running man though...i think i did

[prisma dove]

I liked it when it first came out. Stephen King wrote it. The special effects look dated now, but the theme and story hold up. Considering in involves a 90's version of AI/conscience transference to the virtual world.

[vernal current]

i was actually in the mood to watch the fifth element...hadnt seen it in 20+ years but its not available

[vernal current]

oh its a steven king book?

[prisma dove]

With Demolition Man, don't watch it for the sci-fi. Watch it for Wesley Snipes.

[vernal current]

i saw it

[terse helm]

the fifth element

[vernal current]

@terse helm

[terse helm]

oh oops

[prisma dove]

early 70's short story by King, but yes.

[vernal current]

oh i didnt know

[terse helm]

same brain though

[vernal current]

every movie i wanna watch is not available lol

scary movie, fifth element

[terse helm]

die hard?

[vernal current]

i have other options such as substance and carry on...but wanna save those for the weekend

[vernal current]

saw that a million times...all parts

one of the best movies ever

[prisma dove]

Deep Impact

[vernal current]

not interested in a rewatch of deep impact

[terse helm]

blade?

[vernal current]

saw that too

i watch a lot of movies btw

[prisma dove]

no worries, just throwing out titles

[vernal current]

all genres

[terse helm]

I mean you're asking about 90s action movies

[vernal current]

its cool man i didnt mean for you to stop lol

[terse helm]

having seen them is pretty much assumed at this point

[amber sparrow]

Hackers
Soooo good
Helps Angelina is topless

[terse helm]

for like 2.5 seconds

still worth

[left heart]

I got some new multimeter probes. I've never seen a zero past the decimal on the ohms range before

[vernal current]

i ok with rewatching certain movies...like fifth element because i literally have forgotten what it is

[terse helm]

GoldenEye?

[prisma dove]

all my VHS and DVD movies are boxed up since my last move.... 4 years ago. Not really necessary to unpack them. I can't think of many more without the boxes

[vernal current]

saw goldeneye multiple times

[prisma dove]

Stargate

[amber sparrow]

Watch interstellar. Even if you've seen it 100x. Watch it 100 more

[vernal current]

man that is such an amazing movie

[prisma dove]

Ad Astra

[vernal current]

i heard ad astra was not good

[amber sparrow]

Yea same

[terse helm]

the mummy?

[amber sparrow]

Heard it was a turd

[vernal current]

LOVE IT

[prisma dove]

not the Cruise version.

[open rune]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-bill-and-ted-air-guitar-bill-and-teds-excellent-adventure-gif-15064518

[prisma dove]

he's a turd

[open rune]

:(

I want special privileges

[amber sparrow]

Get rekt on embed

[vernal current]

you are special

[prisma dove]

cruise is the turd, don't like his Mummy.

[amber sparrow]

Sapiens = bot

[vernal current]

in my heart

[left heart]

I can imagine that gif

[left mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-ugh-lazy-spongebob-not-in-the-mood-gif-17007452

:/

[amber sparrow]

I can't wait for Constantine 2 to happen@

[amber sparrow]

Mitchell = bot too

[vernal current]

me and matty are the real mods

[prisma dove]

geez, brutal

[open rune]

Notice the PS5 doesn't seem to care

[vernal current]

btw have you guys seen the in engine trailer for virtua fighter 6?

its 🥵 🔥

the animation is on another level

[open rune]

They invented mocap for this game btw

[vernal current]

really?

this reminds me...i was very sick a few weeks ago and was just browsing for something to watch and i found a Madden documentary

the game

i dont give a fuck about football, but i knew it must have had some history about EA/industry

and it delivered

at least chapter 1 is what i wanted, the rest was just football stuff

on amazon prime

[prisma dove]

The Wandering Earth series

[marsh helm]

hello

these look cool

[wheat karma]

Where do I get that pink one but matx

[prisma dove]

Does it come with a matching mini fridge

[silver fable]

I liked Ad Astra...

[marsh helm]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2dYBxD_uius?si=XldHmP6puu4oGr-d

hah

more nvidia bs

both of these are playing cyberpunk but the 5090 is using that new fake ai multi gen frame

the latency does increase

[prisma dove]

need more fake frames for slow-motion editing

[silver fable]

At 123 fps, the 4090 is also using frame generation.

[prisma dove]

time to turn the game world into a movie studio

[marsh helm]

yes but just 1

vs the 3 that the 5090 is doing

[wheat karma]

I pay for real frames

[marsh helm]

[open rune]

I want to know the perf difference with frame gen off

[marsh helm]

5

[terse helm]

they're not letting that out yet

other than in CP2077 with full path tracing

which is like

not a particularly interesting benchmark imo

[marsh helm]

thats 5090 at 4k and rt overdrive

[terse helm]

but there seem to be no numbers with settings that people might actually use

[open rune]

It's particularly interesting because a 4090 can already run it without frame gen, but in order to hold 60 FPS it needs to be at ~1440p

And with DLSS

So I'm curious how much extra real muscle the 5090 has over it before we start frame generation

[marsh helm]

the 4090 gets around 23fps with the same settings

[carmine ibex]

like 25-30%

but that's with heavy rt and frame gen
I expect 20% in a lot of games

half of the performance gain is probably the generous memory bandwidth

[marsh helm]

20% yeah

[terse helm]

well it also has like 4k more cuda cores

[marsh helm]

cost 20% more

[terse helm]

i.e. 25%

[marsh helm]

20% more performance

[open rune]

Frame gen is nice but I already get what I need from the current generation so I'm less interested in that

[carmine ibex]

25% more cores is like 12% more performance

historically

oh, it's 33% more cores? did I math right...

[terse helm]

no the 4090 has 16k cores, the 5090 has 20k

[marsh helm]

also they turned the connector

so it blocks the rgb

why?

[terse helm]

better for the cable

[carmine ibex]

not quite
it's 16400 versus 21800
roughly

[marsh helm]

now u cant use a 90 degree connector

[open rune]

Oh is it angled now? That's excellent

Having the connector straight up out the top sucked

[marsh helm]

but it blocks the rgb!!

how will ppl know what gpu i have

[terse helm]

yeah that's how it was on the 30 series too

it clearly doesn't block the logo

seeing as how

[open rune]

Definitely wasn't like that on my 30-series

[terse helm]

you can see the logo

it is on the 30 series FE

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/df/RTX_3090_Founders_Edition!.jpg

I think nvidia's 30 series founders editions were the only ones that had the angled connector though

they went to straight for the 40 series

and afaik none of the board partners did it

[copper notch]

The RGB just consumes several watts of power that cant go to the GPU die to overclock it to get those extra 5fps though!

Real gamers unplug the LEDs!

🙂

[compact lark]

123/2, 61.5fps 4090
234/4, 58.5fps 5090
wouldn't that be the quick and easy math.. however DF compared what each was doing, take for example this door in motion doesn't visually break up

raincoat enjoyers rejoice

[open rune]

Nice nice

[compact lark]

transparency in the ladies hood is still a problem

[wary holly]

Is this first-party marketing material?

At this point, I'm sure the only news sources who got access to the new nvidia hardware are the most "advertiser friendly" sources, i.e. sellouts, I'll wait until someone reputable (Steve) reports on them.

[compact lark]

I think DF leaving in all the ghosting artifacts still in the game
I had the opportunity to spend some time testing out the brand new DLSS 4 upscaling and frame generation technology on a PC kitted out with the new GeForce RTX 5080, running an updated build of Cyberpunk 2077

doesn't appear to be a red flag of uh... access journalism(?)

[open rune]

It's Digital Foundry no

Pretty reputable

[marsh helm]

at least that stuff is free

[terse helm]

that's DF yes

[marsh helm]

DF has been a long time nvidia shill

during every release tho

same with LTT

i dont trust either

[open rune]

[terse helm]

I mean

[jaunty fulcrum]

LTT has been calling out nvidia for stuff for.. years

[open rune]

Literally a pile of comparison videos

[jaunty fulcrum]

even their video today points out flaws in DLSS

[terse helm]

you should always be mindful of media outlets' opinions

[marsh helm]

not during release

LTT previews are normally very bias

i dont trust either of their preview stuff

its just all marketing

[open rune]

What like they're doctoring their videos or something?

[marsh helm]

they are editing it to make the product look better

and hiding flaws

[terse helm]

[citation needed]

[open rune]

Are we talking about the same video or is this just a broad claim

[terse helm]

if we're talking about the Linus "hands on" video, I saw nothing inherently wrong with it

[marsh helm]

no not this video

i very long time ago

3090 time

[terse helm]

I don't recall anything particularly wrong back then either?

the 30 series was a huge generational leap over the 16/20 series, and it came in a time of need (pandemic)

like being enthusiastic and/or optimistic about things isn't a bad thing you know

(if it's genuine)

[marsh helm]

from what i remember they made it seem like there was no issues with dlss during their 8k gaming preview video

[compact lark]

I think sponsored videos where they omit things, possible editorial control, doesn't help LTT or DFs image in prior releases but they've been transparent about [when] being sponsored

[marsh helm]

it was only till after that they pointed it out

[open rune]

8K
lol

[terse helm]

yeah what

[compact lark]

the tourist, iirc, a pixel art game

[terse helm]

literally no one does 8K gaming

LTT made a video about how miserable of an experience it was trying it with the 3090 back when it was new

(which btw, nvidia can stop calling their top-of-the-line cards "8K gaming" cards until such time as 8K gaming is actually reasonable achievable)

[marsh helm]

yeah the followup content was great

just the preview stuff i just see as marketing

and i ignore

[amber sparrow]

LTT doesn't seem to be the "go to" for unbiased coverage

[marsh helm]

i cant find the llt short i saw but heres gamer

[amber sparrow]

That's why we have tech jesus

[terse helm]

well, the preview stuff tends to be based on what nvidia wants media outlets to see

[marsh helm]

jesus talking about the 8k gaming

https://youtu.be/Xgs-VbqsuKo

and how bullshit it is

[terse helm]

tech jesus shits on things unnecessarily too much imo

though if he's shitting on 8K gaming I'm fully on board

[marsh helm]

real jesus also took branches to ppl just trying to sell some coin in a church

they may of pulled it because i remember a good number of ppl trying to run the same games and seeing far lower fps

[terse helm]

also tech jesus needs to make every video 50% shorter

[marsh helm]

no

i want to FEEL LIKE IM BEING PREACHED TO

[terse helm]

I literally fall asleep when they pull up the bar charts

[compact lark]

as monotone as possible

[marsh helm]

it helps me sleep

dont you dare leave a comment saying to speed up

[amber sparrow]

Some of GN videos are indeed just a bit much

I watch most at 2x

[marsh helm]

anyways maybe from gamer nexus said

you can understand why i disregard preview stuff

oh matty

did you see the cute cases that thermaltake made?

soo cool

[prisma dove]

USB A ports on the front?

[marsh helm]

mine has that too

but with 14 ports in the back

its not really an issue

oh heres an inside view

[prisma dove]

I wondering why A and not C ports on the case?

[terse helm]

it has both

[prisma dove]

lol thanks. I guess that's what we get, for now. I was hoping we could get past it soon-ish. Still need A-C cables instead of just C-C cables.

[terse helm]

this reminds me

I need to find a USB-C to USB-B cable

idk why but this feels like an abomination

[prisma dove]

what the hell? why? got a printer or something to plug in?

[terse helm]

audio interface

and capture card, though I need the usb3 version for that

[prisma dove]

okay, that actually makes sense. The shape is a little more secure. Was just checking my laser printer, it has the B port. But it's networked, so never took the tape off the other ports.

[terse helm]

I mean people know this as the "printer" connector but actually it's for every USB device that doesn't have a permanently-attached cord, and isn't using USB-C

[prisma dove]

and then there are micro and mini USB connectors. Still have a few of those around.

[terse helm]

yes but fuck those

[prisma dove]

I can't. It's the connector to charge the battery on a handheld radio scanner.

[marsh helm]

i think i have room

for it

O_O

it will work well on the left side of my case

as most cases look bad from that side

[elder peak]

hey

[opaque halo]

so -- when someone posts a log. If you click on the Solutions / Full Analysis button below the bots message it will show a webpage. From there click on the entire log file. This will open the detailed log.

For the log that was just sent in w-s. If you scroll down towards the bottom you'll see this line

20:57:21.482: Output 'simple_stream': Number of dropped frames due to insufficient bandwidth/connection stalls: 3632 (91.7%)

This tells us that there is an issue between their computer and the streaming service.

[elder peak]

oh i see

is he using gpu or cpu

[opaque halo]

There is a lot of useful information in the logs... and there can also be a LOT of useless information in the logs... especially if they are using stream elements or other sources that spam the hell out of OBS

[terse helm]

!pyramidscheme

[opaque halo]

For that - this line

20:50:39.824: [texture-amf-h264: 'simple_video_stream'] settings:

As you can see they are using AMF H264 which is hardware encoding.

h = hardware

[terse helm]

uh

[opaque halo]

and if you scroll up you can see the available encoders

20:50:16.915: Available Encoders:
20:50:16.915: Video Encoders:
20:50:16.915: - ffmpeg_svt_av1 (SVT-AV1)
20:50:16.915: - ffmpeg_aom_av1 (AOM AV1)
20:50:16.915: - h264_texture_amf (AMD HW H.264 (AVC))
20:50:16.915: - h265_texture_amf (AMD HW H.265 (HEVC))
20:50:16.915: - obs_x264 (x264)

[terse helm]

the H in H.264 is not "hardware"

[opaque halo]

🙂 It's how I see it in my brain 🙂

[elder peak]

if he is using h.264 max bitrate should be 6k as i know

isn't it like that

[terse helm]

it's from the standards series from the ITU-T

https://www.itu.int/itu-t/recommendations/rec.aspx?rec=13189

[opaque halo]

Not with YouTube. YouTube can use up to 51000. They are probably on a slower upload bitrate due to their ISP.

[opaque halo]

You are right.. I should have been clearer that the "h" is just my personal way of remebering

[elder peak]

oh if its youtube idk sometimes using game capturing even a problem

i am using screen capturing only

[opaque halo]

Game capture isn't a YouTube problem. It's a problem with the game or anti-cheat

[elder peak]

specially with valorant

[opaque halo]

It's the anti-cheat that Valorant is using that doesn't allow OBS to use game capture.

As you can see here - their game capture is for LD Player - timestamp of 20:50:17.291

20:50:17.291: Loaded scenes:
20:50:17.291: - scene 'Abertura Horizontal':
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Música' (wasapi_process_output_capture)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Fonte de mídia' (ffmpeg_source)
20:50:17.291: - scene 'Cena':
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Shenzen' (image_source)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'LD Player' (game_capture)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Música' (wasapi_process_output_capture)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Webcam' (dshow_input)
20:50:17.291: - filter: 'Chroma Key' (chroma_key_filter_v2)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Alerta Pix' (browser_source)
20:50:17.291: - monitoring: monitor and output
20:50:17.291: - source: 'QR Code Live Pix' (browser_source)
20:50:17.291: - scene 'Site':
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Captura de janela' (window_capture)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Música' (wasapi_process_output_capture)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Webcam' (dshow_input)
20:50:17.291: - filter: 'Chroma Key' (chroma_key_filter_v2)
20:50:17.291: - scene 'Encerramento Horizontal':
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Música' (wasapi_process_output_capture)
20:50:17.291: - source: 'Video Encerramento' (ffmpeg_source)

Then, just below that - the game capture is successful

20:50:17.299: [game-capture: 'LD Player'] gl memory capture successful
20:50:17.308: [game-capture: 'LD Player'] memory capture successful
20:50:17.308: [win-wasapi: 'LD Player (Áudio)'] update settings:
20:50:17.308: executable: dnplayer.exe
20:50:17.308: title: LDPlayer
20:50:17.308: class: LDPlayerMainFrame
20:50:17.308: priority: 0

[marsh helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI-C-nZnDE8

Valve Lays Out Plans For SteamOS

[void gale]

hoping steam os for pc (especially for nvidia cards)

[silver fable]

Linux does not work well with nvidia cards.

[tall vapor]

Valve can't do much bout nvidia, that's all nvidia's fault and nvidia gotta fix it 🤷‍♀️

gamescope for example, a dependency for steamos to work..... not worky on nvidia really, never has been

[ripe zodiac]

I beat job sim now idk what to do should I just refund it and get another game?

[marsh helm]

@karmic tiger

the dragon spins

https://youtu.be/dUCRLbfj4JE
also dragon themed laptop

[karmic tiger]

ooooooh

[drowsy mason]

8K not real? Pssh, y'all are missing out on playing "Simpsons: Hit and Run" at 16K resolution like a real gamer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGe_XYSYioQ (/s)

[drowsy mason]

An actually pretty well rounded check in on how 8K was doing in 2024 on a 4090:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2axwlxfLbk
(Surprisingly ok in some 10yr old games and/or on Medium settings, unsurprisingly not good in a lot of games.)

[marsh helm]

theres a mini led from msi

that im really hoping is good

https://tftcentral.co.uk/news/msi-mpg-274urdfw-e16m-with-a-27-4k-160hz-fhd-320hz-dual-mode-ips-panel-and-mini-led-backlight#:~:text=MSI MPG 274URDFW E16M Specs,refresh rate up to 320Hz no price yet tho

i dont care about the dual mode they can remove that

but the rest could be nice its hdr is nice

[drowsy mason]

I want a 4K 480Hz OLED for ~$200-$300, may need to wait 10 or more years though

[marsh helm]

hah yeah

if it gets that cheap the whole industry would go bankrupt

[drowsy mason]

They will sell monitors that can microwave your food, to differentiate products at that point I guess

[marsh helm]

i mean given how bright stuff is getting

why dont they also give us a tan?

[drowsy mason]

fluorescent backlights used to do that, sort of

[marsh helm]

tandem architecture blue phosphorescence OLED display

i had to search on google on how to spell that

thats going into this new monitor tech

[drowsy mason]

Tandem can be more brighter, less burn-in-ey IIRC?

[marsh helm]

yes

ill find a little chart

hope that helps XD

[drowsy mason]

I heard it explained that it's two dimmer LEDs instead of one LED being pushed hard. Same brightness output, safer/lower brightness per physical LED.

[marsh helm]

yeah that soudns about what i understood

lots of other bigger words were also said

[drowsy mason]

Anywho, I gotta go to sleep, hope you have a good evening.

[marsh helm]

night night

[amber sparrow]

@left mulch

[jaunty fulcrum]

That's a low bar, "Apple TV+'s best Sci-Fi" 😂

It's very specific criteria

[amber sparrow]

Whatchu mean. They have a bunch of Sci fi

And pretty much all of it is great!

[left mulch]

not a low bar at all, appletv has some of the best sci fi out there imo

[amber sparrow]

I think I might wait for the whole season to be out before I watch. Just watching silo weekly is kinda of annoying.

[drowsy mason]

I wonder if the Arrow Lake laptop CPUs are gonna be any good, since Arrow Lake didn't really seem "in its element" on full-sized desktop machines... With all the tuning for low power and such. Same for Zen 5 TBH. Now that product announcements for the laptop CPUs are trickling out.

Always "gotta wait for benchmarks", I should just ignore product announcements... 😢

[tall vapor]

sips coffee as she types this message on her x220 from 2011

[marsh helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-s4KrPlIx4

[drowsy mason]

"Why can't I hold all these limes graphics cards?"

[marsh helm]

the looks on the faces of staff

[drowsy mason]

I'm on a 2012 laptop, just addicted to tech news

[karmic tiger]

@wary holly @prisma dove yeah, reminder that most people who talk of clipping don't actually know what clipping is

[wary holly]

Whoops.

[prisma dove]

well, no time like the present to learn. But I see your point

[karmic tiger]

yeah, honestly this confusion is so prevalent that I've taken to always ask for precisions whenever people say shit is clipping

[opaque halo]

goes right along with "OBS crashes".....

[karmic tiger]

yeah exactly

[wary holly]

I should make a prewritten macro out of that:
By crashes, do you mean the "woops, obs has crashed", popup, or a hang, or something else?

[opaque halo]

May add that to my stream deck 🙂

[proper valve]

Is that… kasane teto?

[wary holly]

@proper valve Yes, why?

[proper valve]

favorite ai voice

[terse helm]

I mean it's laggy

[full fern]

"My stream disconnects" LOL

[marsh helm]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-50-series-adds-support-for-422-color-format-video-decoding-and-encoding

[drowsy mason]

Tangent from that: I wish chroma subsampling formats had not been named like 4:4:4, 4:2:0, so confusing.

[livid plover]

makes sense. 4 part that, 2 part this, none of this shit tho

[marsh helm]

av1 ultra hq

[livid plover]

comapny

[terse helm]

it's not that confusing though?

[compact lark]

full chroma, half chroma plus kerning, quater chroma plus kerning

[still mica]

Is 422 actually "pro grade"? I think most actually pro folks use something that does 444 😉

(...also I wonder if the AV1 does grain synthesis yet...)

[terse helm]

yes, it is

4:4:4 is more of a specialty thing

[drowsy mason]

If I could make a chroma subsampling naming scheme, I would assume everything is described in terms of a 4x2 grid of pixels (like everyone already does) and use the terms "full", "half" or "quarter" to specify the resolution of color in terms of unique colors vertically and horizontally respectively.

Example: "half-half." Meaning half horizontal color resolution (4/2 = 2 unique horizontally), half vertical resolution (2/2 = 1 unique color vertically). (Would be equivalent to 4:2:0.)

[terse helm]

how do you describe 3:1:1?

[drowsy mason]

One does not describe 3:1:1 under said scheme. Out of spec.

[terse helm]

well in any case it sounds like your scheme just assigns words to the numbers

[drowsy mason]

Banned, even

[terse helm]

which just makes it longer

and tbh makes it a bit more confusing because 4:X:Y is about how many samples there are but you're flipping that around and talking about the resolution of the whole thing

[drowsy mason]

Lends itself to shorthands:

• "full" = 4:4:4
• "half" = 4:2:2 (4:4:0 is out of spec / banned (jk, unless...))
• "quarter" = 4:1:1 4:2:0 I guess
• "single" = 4:1:0???

[sudden adder]

sounds like a normal standard to me, constantly re-edited and full of "i guess"s

[terse helm]

and with lots of ambiguity

idk I feel like if you understand the concept of chroma subsampling you should have the mental capacity to understand the notation

[sudden adder]

when it comes to this type of stuff, the technical terms tend to be the best terms

[drowsy mason]

I'm half joking and half not actually going to try and make this happen

[drowsy mason]

If I didn't struggle with it, or how to explain it to people, I probably wouldn't want it named differently, yeah.

Had to finish understanding it properly to describe my alternative though. So, meh. Blarg. Big video wins again. *Shakes fist at cloud*

[marsh helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhaMmkn2roc
I was right about the 5090. It’s BAD.
Coreteks

[jaunty fulcrum]

I continue to be tired of AI.

[open rune]

I can't listen to this voice for 20 minutes

[jaunty fulcrum]

it also feels like it doesn't need to be a 20 minute video

[sudden adder]

glad i wasnt the only one thinking that

[open rune]

The "well actually" voice hit puberty lol

[sudden adder]

and it mostly sounded like regurgitated, echo-chamber "hey reddit, lets get mad about something" click bait

[open rune]

Sorry I'm sure he's right about whatever it is

[karmic tiger]

@low girder moving here because it's outside the scope of support, in a lot of cases, companies actually know what they're doing, and in a lot of case, the production of a bad or flawed product is actually a conscious decision geared towards their acctual end goal : short-term profit

[low girder]

Like on Purpose or what?

[jaunty fulcrum]

(without knowing the context, it can also be due to not providing enough budget, experience, or time, very occasionally due to incompotence by management)

[karmic tiger]

generally not on purpose on the dev end of things but often on purpose on the exec side, only allocating enough resourcces to make a functional (sometimes barely) product instead of an actually good and polished one

[karmic tiger]

yee that's kinda part of my point, the pooling of resources is a conscious decision by the company

[graceful shadow]

hello

[karmic tiger]

hoi

[graceful shadow]

bro

cna yo help me

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[graceful shadow]

join my online class na ddestory it

[karmic tiger]

no

[graceful shadow]

why??

[karmic tiger]

because I have better things to do that base trolling of a bloody class

[graceful shadow]

plz

bro

[civic quarry]

Have a good night 🙂

[marsh helm]

tldr

[brazen thunder]

that's substantially more than I expected, tbqh

but i guess tdps did go up again for that

[marsh helm]

its 20% more money tho

and last gen it was 47% faster

3090 v 4090

its only a full gen upgrade if you use the multiple frame gen

[brazen thunder]

ye, i'm looking from 3k series, since I last upgraded during the 'vid shortage, so it's not terrible but I'm also not as excited to upgrade as I was to score a 9800x3d

[marsh helm]

thats what nvidia used

for all of these gaming tests

[brazen thunder]

It does feel like Nvidia went out of their way to make their slide deck as misleading as possible

[marsh helm]

coming from 40 series its not much of an upgrade at all

which gpu do you have now?

3060ti to 4060ti was 5% lol

so i didnt upgrade

only thing i will get is a 4090 used once it hits 1k

[brazen thunder]

3080 non-ti

so I'm probably solid for another gen or so

[marsh helm]

a 4090 is around 60% faster

so a 5080 would be around 60% faster

[compact lark]

sorted by sold recently last night for 40/30 series in Jan, a 4090 was $926

[marsh helm]

😮 on ebay?

[drowsy mason]

A lot of hardware companies cherry-pick scenarios that put their product in a better than neutral light, sure, but I often see AMD or intel making some targeted, and in some sense justified point about their product. Nvidia consistently implies specific not at all true takeaway messages for the data in their graphs. It's not the same in my book.

[marsh helm]

well amd will show the full details in the footnotes

nvidia dosnt do that

they will also use prerelease drivers

like for cyberpunks rt overdrive

nobody could test it because it wasnt out

[drowsy mason]

They deliberately overload terms and label things misleadingly to confuse and be dishonest.

"FPS" has almost no meaning in a team green graph now. Which is an insane thing to have to type.

[compact lark]

quoting the used market is kinda sketch (one time sales) so take those figures with a grain of salt, I had started with TPU for $:Frame but the type of games I feel would warrant benchmarking was kinda low in some roundups so I disqualified them (games that do* run >120fps on a 4070, or just run like ass)... in those titles they appear to be relatively close in outcome

yes alan wake 2 has rt in it, iirc it cant be turned off so I left it in

[marsh helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt_opWoL89w fsr 4 preview

fs4 looks like dlss 3.5

wow

[compact lark]

confetti inside and outside that cannon looking good

[marsh helm]

yeah huge increase

and thats worse case

i wonder if fsr 4 works on 3,5rdna

because this on handhelds would be incredible

woowowowo

https://youtu.be/xt_opWoL89w?t=526

this is massive increase

dear lord thats wild

the shimmering stuff is what gives me headaches

[vernal current]

just found out about SD card express

pretty cool. Almost as fast as an SSD?

[marsh helm]

what?

ive never heard of it

ssd are soo cheap so why not use them?

[vernal current]

because maybe you need something smaller?

its being used for the switch 2

[marsh helm]

ssds get pretty small

nintendo cheaps out on a lot of stuff

[vernal current]

you are thinking in terms of PC, but there are other devices that are small and cant install SSD

[compact lark]

I'm sure Tim can't wait to try fsr4 at home and see what it's like in motion

[marsh helm]

well they were playing the game at least

so they got a chance to see it all in motion

[livid plover]

Eeeh the extra speed gain from a normal sd card seems pretty eh. Those are already somewhat speedy

No doubt camera's are the main driving force behind that increase

[carmine ibex]

it's unfortunate that it seems FSR 4 will be 9000 series only

[umbral cove]

From what ive read, its quite possible for it to also come for the rdnas 2 n 3s

Like how AFMF was initially only on the rdna3s

[terse helm]

I have never seen a struggle bigger than this man's

[livid plover]

struggle with his sock to pants ratio?

[prisma dove]

That flag bearer, I feel for him. Saw it earlier, the wind so strong

[opaque halo]

Honor Guard Flag bearer. And even alone, those flags are not light

"normal" stance would be "at attention" with feet / heels together

[prisma dove]

The wind gust had other things in my mind, moving the flag around. But damn, he was trying to hold stance

[terse helm]

yeah he had a giant flag and it's windy as all fuck down there

(also those aren't socks)

[mystic bronze]

You've got an account on here, @verbal thicket sending me unsolicited DMs and impersonating other streamers

[wise bay]

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[mystic bronze]

Done!

[vernal current]

any mobile game recommendations? something that is done with mobile in mind and not a port

any genre

[livid plover]

loooking for AA style but mobile or just some dumb little timewaste?

also android/ios/what

[vernal current]

honestly anything is fine, but im leaning more towards time wasters

anything more than 20 min, i rather play on console

stuff like angry birds is great and made with mobile in mind

[livid plover]

trials frontier

[vernal current]

what kind of game is that?

[livid plover]

uh, side scroller "racer"

[vernal current]

like "auto run"?

those never interested me

[livid plover]

hill climb racing but trials based. don't remember if it had proper evil levels like the extreme difficulty ones that the "proper" trials games have

[vernal current]

have you tried civilization 6 for mobile? I heard it was made for mobile

i mean there is a specific mobile version of it that is different than the PC version

[civic quarry]

Paper.io 2

[vernal current]

i was enjoying monument valley until there was no audio anymore

[livid plover]

i don't have any time where mobile gaming would make sense so i haven't done any in years tbh

[vernal current]

yea same

but i have a lot of downtime the next few weeks and wanted to get something to waste time with

i really dislike mobile games because they are either bad ports or just done lazily

[tall vapor]

it isn't, it literally is the full pc version. Which means that yes for a mobile game it's ridiculously expensive esp once ya add in the DLCs

[vernal current]

I thought it was a separate mobile version :/

[tall vapor]

tho there is a netflix version apparently?

[vernal current]

Yes that's where I found it

[smoky rapids]

Assuming you mean for android theres this that I pop onto sometimes.

It may be the "I made this pack of games in 1 day" set but definitely filler at times. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.boyle.chris.sgtpuzzles

[tall vapor]

netflix ver gives you the platinum ver of the game, whatever that means

[vernal current]

It said in the trailer that it was made for mobile

[tall vapor]

The full pc game had a touchscreen mode since civ v

[civic quarry]

Base game incl. all DLCs

[tall vapor]

ah sweet

[smoky rapids]

Also clicker heroes.

[vernal current]

Netflix also has roller coaster tycoon

But those games are not stupid time wasters lol

So I'm weary of playing them on mobile

[tall vapor]

also unciv, if on android. Basically open source civ v, albeit much less flashy graphics

there's also antiyoy which I played quite a lot back in the day, and of course the battle of polytopia

[vernal current]

Thanks

[raw zenith]

What is macos?

[amber sparrow]

The OS for Mac devices

[raw zenith]

Should've known

[civic quarry]

So tacOS is...?

[brazen thunder]

The os for tachometers

[tall vapor]

[tall vapor]

[left heart]

pfft

[carmine ibex]

NO
NO!

[compact lark]

how is ai snatch not trademarked already
2024 already made that product.. by another name, LELO was in the technews

[vernal current]

i saw carry-on and its probably one of the best netflix movies ever

netflix movies are really bad

this one was actually enjoyable

[amber sparrow]

Carry on was pretty good yea

Jason Bateman is a good bad guy

[vernal current]

sPoiLErZ

[amber sparrow]

Wut

[vernal current]

just kidding

[amber sparrow]

The trailer makes it obvious

[vernal current]

next to watch is the substance

will be in the next few days (probably tomorrow)

[copper notch]

AI Snatch? LOL Ummmm... @Gigabyte - I don't think that that word means what you think it means. #JustSaying

[carmine ibex]

idk what their scam is but it's definitely a line-up to a scam mhm
yes, I know, I can report it.. but they haven't done anything wrong yet and I'll just ignore

[opaque halo]

That's normally what I do.. ignore and move on.

[copper notch]

I find it easier to require people to publicly negotiate a DM with me before considering accepting any, and have them blocked by default.

[compact lark]

df found themselves at amds booth too

[marsh helm]

https://san.com/cc/biden-plans-final-push-to-limit-nvidia-advanced-chip-exports-report/ oh spicy

that may mean more gaming gpu stock

[marsh helm]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tiktok-trial-ban-appeal-bytedance/

[livid plover]

lol people will just VPN

[marsh helm]

you cant make money on it anymore tho

going to be a lot less content

other companies are looking to ban it too

[copper notch]

So, I went through my ~= 4500 game library in Playnite, flagging all games that support Ray Tracing based on recent updated lists of ray traced games found online. So far, this is all I found:

I'm sure there are a number of others that haven't made it to lists yet, but even that being the case, I doubt it would be bigger than 50% more or so. Goes to show just how little importance ray tracing is overall, at least for my library. Mind you, the flip side of that I suppose is that the total number of games might not be important so long as there are enough that give enough hours of enjoyment for the feature to matter, but then that is further offset downward by the number of games that technically support RT but don't do anything actually useful or meaningful with it too.

Another caveat, is that I am not a "new releases" flocker.

TBH though I'd like to see them do a remaster of "Lucius Demake" with ray tracing, because that would just be hilarious.

[compact lark]

didn't know pbfx got ray tracing, last I touched it was v2

this ps5 video I'm watching only mentions rt reflections, iirc raytracing still doesn't like flashing lights

[copper notch]

Would be funny to see a Stardew Valley update with ray traced shadows or something 🙂

[livid plover]

ray traced pixels

just AI upscale all of it from 2d sprites to 3d models and make it a 3rd person RPG instead of top down

[proper linden]

@sly breach wanna talk about something ?

[livid plover]

!report it's a scam account, report it to discord and move on 🙂

[wise bay]

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[proper linden]

Thanks, just making sure

[marsh helm]

well on top of the massive latency increase and far lower fps you get from using it

losing half of my fps just dosnt feel good on a 144hz screen X__X

[livid plover]

just get more FPS then

[marsh helm]

https://www.pcworld.com/article/2572272/amd-blames-ryzen-9800x3d-shortages-on-complexity-and-intels-crappy-chips.html

“And so it’s longer than a quarter to really ramp, you know, the output of those products, and so we’re working very, very hard to catch up with demand,” McAfee said. “I think as we go through the first half of this year, you’ll see us continue to increase output of X3D. You know there’s no secret, X3D has become a far more important part of our CPU portfolio than I think we, any of us, would have predicted a year ago.```

good that they are increasing production

it starting to become their bread and butter chip for diy

He also added, “My belief is, in the 9000 series, those higher core count products, there’ll be some demand there, but it’ll still be ten-to-one or more on the eight-core X3D parts because they’re just such a great gaming part. For a pure gamer, there’s nothing else like it.”```

Also theres a loong interview with the radeon team about the future of Radeon

TLDR: They are using FSR 4 as a ZEN 1 restart for Radeon and rebuilding
We haven’t talked about this a lot, but you know, the journey that we’re on at this moment with RDNA 4 is kind of a new starting point for us, right? Building a reputation for Radeon, just like we had for Ryzen in the early years, where it’s focused on delivering better value for the end user, giving consumers more for their money than what the other guys are delivering, focusing on the features and capabilities that gamers care about most

Fsr is such a massive increase in quality from the prototype they have running that yeah i can see it as something big

Amd really has to price it right tho

[tall vapor]

FSR4?

the text yer quoting is talking abt rdna4....

[amber sparrow]

They are basically considering rdna4 to be gpu reset like going to ryzen first gen on cpu

Oh

I see what you are saying cookie

Yea, BAD OTTER

[stiff ginkgo]

[amber sparrow]

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[stiff ginkgo]

if only that actually did something

[amber sparrow]

Well it does. It puts it in the hands of discord support who has the tools to verify and take action against those accounts

[livid plover]

but it is also discord, soooo

[amber sparrow]

Listen

[livid plover]

🦻

[amber sparrow]

That's all I had

[livid plover]

that's all you had in you huh

[terse helm]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/explorer/gamer/monitors/corsair-xeneon-edge-touchscreen-everything-you-need-to-know/

could be nice for streamers to put their chat on and shit

[livid plover]

nice tablet

[tall vapor]

ooooohhhhhh I have seen that screen on aliexpress many times before while scrollin

just not with the corsair logo, but yeah such screens aren't all too rare/have been a thing for a while

Will be interesting to see what corsair will charge for it

[terse helm]

$250 apparently

which is I guess on the high end for a display

though it's not as high volume a product as a regular monitor so that'll affect the price

[tall vapor]

bit more than the aliexpress version as to be expected (when going for the 2560x720 14.5"), but ya

yuuuuup

[copper notch]

I think there is an emulator that does that with NES games or somesuch

[tall vapor]

cause like the bare lcd+driver board for 14.5" 2560x720 can be had for 150€ inc 19/20% VAT, with case and stand and everythin made into an actual product it's more like 200

but that's obv not what corsair is usin

well

likely the same panel p much, let's be honest here

but yah

[left heart]

opens up panelook

[copper notch]

Here's a trick question to start the day with... What do you get when you put 4 juicy round steaks in a frying pan and sear them on both sides?

[tall vapor]

acid reflux?

[left heart]

envy from neighbors?

[livid plover]

all the boys from the milkshake yard comes over?

[tall vapor]

it better do, cause me milkshake is for them gals&pals

[copper notch]

Nope! My breakfast! 🙂

[tall vapor]

[left heart]

...I wonder if the author is trying to say something about their work experience

[languid delta]

guys should i only play roblox on my channel or variety gaming

[sudden adder]

no one can answer that, that is completely up to you and what you want to actually do with your time

[amber sparrow]

I can answer that....nobody should play roblox

[prisma dove]

Lots of people stream Roblox, so think how you will make your content different vs others.

[languid delta]

yeah but like which one will be better

i like both

[sudden adder]

then do a variety, with occational Roblox (which would still be variety)

[prisma dove]

You have define what "better" means for you. Like, is your goal to increase audience participation? Or just new viewers and new followers? What's the game plan for this content? What's the goals? Define that first, then look at which content will help you get to the goals.

[languid delta]

i wanna have fans that love watching me

for me not for the game

[prisma dove]

Then it doesn't really matter the game, does it? 😉
You are the content. Love what you are doing, so that people can love watching you do whatever it is.

[languid delta]

okay

[sudden adder]

since Summer ive played things like:

• Oxygen Not Included
• Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
• Satisfactory
• Stationeers
• Void Souls
• Backfirewall
• Narita Boy
• Duke Nukem 1, 2, 3D, 4Ever, Manhatten Project
• showed off some 3D printing projects
• played a bunch of demos during Steam NextFest

ive never been able to do the "im the 1 game streamer" type of thing, since there will be a time when that 1 game is no longer fun for me, or the audience for it just moves onto something else.

[languid delta]

ok

[umbral cove]

got meself a gpu anti sag thingy, only detail is that i cant forget to take it out

if i were to move the pc around, since it can fall if i turn the tower sideways

[sudden adder]

that reminds me, i still want to print one out for my system. Dont really need it, but it will look nice 😄

[terse helm]

just glue it?

[umbral cove]

yeah, thats very pratical... only downside is that it wont have a magnectic botton for extra grip

[sudden adder]

i can add one

[umbral cove]

i have seem some models that can screw in, but my case doesnt have places on the botton for the screwin

[sudden adder]

i have a self-adhesive magnetic sheet that I can cut to the right size and stick on the bottom

[umbral cove]

yeah.. that will do it

iam now a bit paranoid about the stand bein able to fall, i wish it could stick better

the magnet is not weak, but the stand is a bit weighty, due to bein full metal

[sudden adder]

when you get into 3d printing, you start picking up extra hardware and/or crafting materials that can go along with it. Magnetic sheets, ball bearings, assortments of deez nuts and bolts

[umbral cove]

hell, i really wanted to upgrade my cpu

but em price raises, i guess the start o year is the worst time to buy some stuff

[terse helm]

holes are pretty easy to make

[amber sparrow]

Why do you need a mount for the 6650? Isn't that thing tiny?

[umbral cove]

its not for him... hehe

[amber sparrow]

Hell, I even removed the bracket for my 6950xt which is chungas and it's fiiiiiine

[umbral cove]

is for the future

o the nation

tototooo

[tall vapor]

For anti-sag what also works is a... piece of string. Tie to end of graphics card&tie other end to mesh on top of case if available

[umbral cove]

but first i will up de cpu

[tall vapor]

not the prettiest, but I've def done it before

[umbral cove]

and yeah.. while my 6650 aint that big, theres certainly some sag regardless

[umbral cove]

here its lookin good with the support ive got... there just that detail i mentioned

[amber sparrow]

Guess the reinforced slot on my board works rather well

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral cove]

mine has that aswell

but it wont prevent sag

its too far away for the other side

[amber sparrow]

[tall vapor]

I also lift the butt of graphics card as I screw in the io brackets, that helps too. rather than screwing it in place pre-sagged

[amber sparrow]

Brackets don't really hurt anything so no biggie. Mine just makes for extra work should I wanna go in there and mess around

[wary holly]

I'll take note of that.

[left heart]

I like that string idea

[umbral cove]

hmm, but when mounting while its sideways, theres no sag.. i would imagine

[tall vapor]

preferably that string is tied to the finstack around a heatpipe on the card or whatever rather than the pcb

[tall vapor]

yes but basically you want the butt of card to point up ever so slightly when laid down if that makes sense, that way when it sags it sags to level out

[amber sparrow]

Sheeesh my card weighs 1784g

First time I've looked that up

[umbral cove]

yeah... get a anti sag thingy for it

[amber sparrow]

Have one. Removed

Don't wanna put it back in and it's fiiiiiine

[umbral cove]

is big... no?

i think it wouldnt fit on my case, by 1cm

[amber sparrow]

That's why I had to get a new case when I got this card. Didn't fit in the 220t by like 5cm

[umbral cove]

full tower?

[amber sparrow]

220t is a mid-tower apparently

[umbral cove]

ohh, i mean the new one

[amber sparrow]

4000d. Mid tower as well

But way more room

[umbral cove]

her how me boy looking, did some cleanup today... so a good time for a photo

dont look at the cables behind 🤭

[tall vapor]

ie you want for the io bracket attachment to take some load off of the slot

[amber sparrow]

My zoo

[prisma dove]

spaghetti

mine is bad too

[amber sparrow]

It's under the desk. Outta sight outta mind

More gamez, less cable management

[tall vapor]

but ya with a card that heavy either bracket (cause honesty if yer buyin such a card ya can afford it), but yah some string (better one that got that sweet tensile strength, obv) works very well too

[tall vapor]

that poor pair of cans

[amber sparrow]

I had to yank an ear pad off the 880s for the 990s and too lazy to order new one heh

They are currently 3rd string cans. Using wireless atm, then 990 as main backup

[umbral cove]

use em IEMs, far more comfortable

[amber sparrow]

Nah

Wireless way more comfy

Don't have to take em off to grab a drink

[umbral cove]

i tried using a TWS i have here, but bluetooth audio seems to have way too much latency

[tall vapor]

didn't even see the missing earpads but yah that too, ig I just don't like to keep headphones under desk (or anything really)

I'm runnin me combo of dt700prox drivers&earcups&pads with the dt770 headband, as always

[amber sparrow]

why not? deep enough to not hit my knees but also easily reachable if I wanna use em. and less things on desk

under side of desk has too much space to mount/hide things

[tall vapor]

under desk is for storage boxes, nothing for what I might accidentally kick and a cable touching me legs while playing something that creeps me out.... uh noooooo

gives me the creepy crawlies

[amber sparrow]

thats fair. I've tried many options for best way to run headphone cable to have least interference. straight under desk seems to get in my way the least personally

on top it tends to interfere with moving mic or in way of mouse. left side under desk would get hung up on chair arm.

thats another reason wireless atm is freeing. sure, taking lower audio quality, but nothing in my way!

[tall vapor]

I got me Interface on left side of desk, got the short cable attached to headphones when at desk (aah, minixlr) and I'm all good

[drowsy mason]

Lossless Scaling 3 beta is out. Max framegen amount is capped at something arbitrarily high (20x) and not really recommended.

But for the meme: "DLSS 4 can do 4X framegen? Hold my beer."

Soon: Rainbow 6 Siege at 3000FPS

[tall vapor]

never understood the point of "lossless scaling" if there's magpie

something exists, has existed for quite some time
someone makes commercial software that does the same thing
commercial offering gets hyped up&popular

[wary holly]

Has framegen, for those who dig that sort of thing.

I never did try framegen for games anywhere ever, maybe I should.

[tall vapor]

framegen can get pretty nasty, esp when done on an external level rather than in the game

messes up hud stuffs pretty damn good for example

[umbral cove]

''AMD blames Intel for 9800X3D low stock issues, claiming its "horrible" product contributed to the shortage''

[tall vapor]

I mean..... are they wrong?

[umbral cove]

yeahhh, i know of even a big content creator that was always on Intel swap to a 9800X3D

[tall vapor]

one? there's plenty

[umbral cove]

iirc, Maxmillian mightve also swapped... his pc was having instabilities caused by the cpu

[tall vapor]

they're all like "fuck this shit I'm out"

[amber sparrow]

Thor switched to amd because of intel fuckery

[umbral cove]

fucked products + not respond accondingly to it... yeah...

well deserved loss for em, i guess

[vernal current]

just watched the substance

tittays/10

first time where i am ok with sexulization because it actually makes sense this time

[terse helm]

huh?

oh it;s a movie

alright sounds like a banger

[sudden adder]

saw RedLetterMedia's review of it, pretty neat concept and execution

[carmine ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df-xV56TaZQ

I don't think you'd want to do more than like x6
And only if base frame rate is like 80
So 80>480
But still cool you can force it

[copper notch]

DLSS 7.0 will be able to take 0fps games and make them 1200fps, and doesn't even need a framebuffer! 🙂

The only problem, is it has infinite latency. 🙂

[marsh helm]

Fsr 4 is rdna 4 gaming focused so says amd

[amber sparrow]

Fsr isn't the hardware or generation of it

It's a frame gen algo

And doesn't correlate to hardware reset

[sudden adder]

apparently AMD at some point said it was going to be RDNA4 exclusive, but now are saying it wont be or isnt or just a timed exclusive or whatever.. -if- you can believe headlines

[marsh helm]

they are targeting on gaming

[amber sparrow]

Fsr 4 being rdna4 exclusive has nothing to do with them thinking of rdna 4 as a radeon reset like ryzen was for cpu

That's the point cookie is making

[marsh helm]

to me its a different way thinking then we had before

[amber sparrow]

Well your thinking does not correlate to the quote you provided

[marsh helm]

i was posting too many words

and that rdna interview was soo looong

[marsh helm]

https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/omi-a-competitor-to-friend-wants-to-boost-your-productivity-using-ai-and-a-brain-interface/

[prisma dove]

Jack me in

[sudden adder]

looks like a smaller PS9 -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyPQVsdCuRk

[tall vapor]

as always with new such stuff ya focus on getting it to work with new shiny that's supposed to feature it and then once launch of new shiny has gone well ya go back and look on what other cards it might work too

[marsh helm]

thats cuute

[tall vapor]

the sakura cards are always the best lookin cards, hell I'd take a w/o anime version of that any day of the week!

(and pls tell me they got rid of the perfume they put on those last gen)

[marsh helm]

no

[opaque halo]

What?? Perfume in a GPU??

[marsh helm]

roses

[opaque halo]

🤦‍♂️

[marsh helm]

👀 you dont want your gpu to smell good?

[opaque halo]

I want no smells coming from any component of my computer

[marsh helm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFSYyni3YYs ai top

ai top psu

ai top nvmes

this looks weird

[sudden adder]

wheres the love for AI Bottom?

[marsh helm]

facts

[uneven sluice]

I think I may have made a weird discovery...

If an audio file has embedded cover art, it won't play the audio back correctly in monitor

It'll work the once, then not again unless I turn off and on again the monitor, or relaunch OBS

Seems to only do it for audio files with embedded cover art though

[carmine ibex]

I'm trying to get yt-dlp to download a Twitch video.. but it isn't working
I'm trying to download from about 33 hours. 38 minutes, 30 seconds into the stream to about 30 seconds after that
it like starts saying it's downloading something and I see a bunch of data transfer but it goes waaaaaay past when it's supposed to stop.. after about 20 minutes of data download for when I told it 30 seconds I'm like... what
and I don't think it even actually saved anything

I see they have a Discord.. maybe I'll ask there
the thing is, I tested downloading from like the 10 hour mark, and it worked fine... just not 33+ hours into the stream...

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[dawn grotto]

hellar

[jaunty fulcrum]

I think my computer/internet doesn't like HEVC

[amber sparrow]

👀

[jaunty fulcrum]

(streaming to YouTube HLS specifically)

[amber sparrow]

!n can I interest you in a great support article?

[wise bay]

If your stream is disconnecting or OBS Studio reports dropped frames, follow our Stream Connection Troubleshooting guide for details on how to reduce these issues.

[jaunty fulcrum]

It's not disconnecting though! It's actually stable.

[amber sparrow]

Hls is weird. Can't you now send hevc with the non hls ingest? Does that have the same down spikes?

[jaunty fulcrum]

Dunno. Could also just be bad calculations in 30.2.3.

[amber sparrow]

I use hevc to rtmps

Was rather consistent here

[jaunty fulcrum]

maybe I should do that as a second test

[copper notch]

I use HEVC with RTMPS on YT here with 30.2.3 on 1050 mobile. Haven't had any issues with it so far, so it could just be RTMPS perhaps?

[amber sparrow]

Hls is wonky AF for YT

[copper notch]

I really like the video quality on YT so much better than Twitch, I'm surprised more people don't use YT for streaming. Especially casual stuff.

I used to have 20Mbps up but upgraded a few years ago to 300/100 to be able to push the bitrate on YT and it worked amazing. Got upgraded to 200Mbps now and not even pushing it to their 51 limit and it is still pretty flawless. It's too bad Twitch and other platforms are devoid of the moolah to let that happen.

[terse helm]

I've always thought YT was worse

but perhaps only for 1080p and below

at some point I had the same (1080p) stream up on both twitch and yt and twitch was noticeably clearer

owing to youtube's shitty transcodes

[sudden adder]

what bitrate was the YT stream sent at?

[terse helm]

idk it wasn't my stream

I remember it being vp9 towards me though

[amber sparrow]

1080p and below do be kinda ass on YT

Even sending 51000

[vernal current]

hello nerds

[amber sparrow]

NoU

[vernal current]

UNo