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left heart Dec 13, 2024, 7:24 PM

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internet says to clean them, that's not sufficient.

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and while only replacing the inner ones did stop the feedback for mine, they still sounded funny until I also replaced the outer ones

terse helm Dec 13, 2024, 7:30 PM

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the mics fail or what?

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 7:33 PM

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I'm not sure exactly how they fail, but the common theory seems to be the glue holding the paper dust filter on them degrades. maybe some got into the holes but idk for sure.

terse helm Dec 13, 2024, 7:33 PM

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ah

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I have an xm5 theoretically

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once my sister stops hogging it

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 7:35 PM

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after removing the filters I just cleaned the outside with isopropyl first, that didn't work. kinda gave up hope for those so I started being a lot more aggressive with cleaning and ordered replacements, digikey part number 668-1599-ND

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aggressive cleaning (forcing iso into the mic and trying to dry it out with compressed air) stopped the feedback but broke the mics. frequency response on the mics was toast so ANC didn't work right

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well, I only tried that with the inner pair of mics

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oh yeah and you're gonna want JIS screwdrivers because ofc

terse helm Dec 13, 2024, 7:51 PM

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can't go without when dealing with electronics tbh

carmine ibex Dec 13, 2024, 8:10 PM

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1440p 180hz for $114
Nice

karmic tiger Dec 13, 2024, 8:14 PM

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that's 2273 pHz/$!!!!

sly mural Dec 13, 2024, 8:16 PM

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hi

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:13 PM

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That’s janky and not an option

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:13 PM

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that's what professionals do

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:13 PM

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Too bad they haven’t updated their camcorder line since 2019, and the only one they made that can do 4K60 is from 2017-

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:13 PM

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left heart that's what professionals do

I’m a professional and it’s simply not an option for me.

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Like ok maybe if I was always recording stationary..

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But that’s not the case

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:15 PM

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typically you'll see mounting solutions in cages like smallrigs

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:15 PM

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People really should stop making excuses for Canon and see the actual problem they created

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:15 PM

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that way you'll have extra batteries, external recorders, etc... all in one place

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:15 PM

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left heart that way you'll have extra batteries, external recorders, etc... all in one plac...

Shouldn’t need to do that, that’s my point

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If they made a good product in the first place, people wouldn’t need to add so much crap around it, at least not THAT much.

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For example the R5C and R5II do amazingly. The R3 and R1 just have silicon in them from 2018.

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And let me remind you in a flagship product that costs 6 grand

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People can defend them all they want but that’s inexcusable.

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:20 PM

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I'm not sure what the deal is with silicon from 2018 if it does what it needs to do in a sports body

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:21 PM

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Ye

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The DIGIC X is from 2018

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And their solve to this for some of their high end cameras is to put ANOTHER inefficient chip into them that makes the camera overheat even faster

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Instead of updating the one they already had

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:25 PM

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well, I don't know enough about VLSI to tell you whether that would even change one way or another today

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:42 PM

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Plus even if they couldn't make them more efficient - They should have put a fan in it - saying the sentence in the meme I sent shouldn't be able to be said and have it be true - It should have stayed a meme

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:47 PM

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weather sealing is a desirable property for a lot of their customers

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:49 PM

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You're telling me that they're water resistent?

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No one is gonna take that 6 grand camera out in the rain - regardless - they'd have a case for that or something

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which would make the overheating problem worse!

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:50 PM

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Sure they will. Especially when it's for work

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:50 PM

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Not the bare camera

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:50 PM

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That's the whole point of weather resistance treatment.

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I have two bodies that I'm comfortable taking out in the rain. I don't changes lenses in the rain or open any doors, but it works.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:51 PM

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prisma dove Sure they will. Especially when it's for work

If work buys it for ya, sure. No one who actually buys the camera themselves will do that

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:51 PM

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prisma dove I have two bodies that I'm comfortable taking out in the rain. I don't changes l...

Seriously!?

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You'd take the Canon R3 out in the rain

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bare camera

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no case, etc..

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:52 PM

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Yes. Fuji X-T3 and X-H2. Several of my lenses are weather resistant

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:52 PM

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I am very confident the Canon line I'm talking about is not of the type you should take out in the rain no matter what lens

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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Take a look at photojournalists and other freelance photographers, they are out in the elements all the time, to get the shots. Weather can't get in the way.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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That's what a case is for

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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No case

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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It should be

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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why?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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That would solve the overheating problem

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and other cooling related issues

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:53 PM

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A case would trap heat.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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not enough for an internal fan to be useless

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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Besides, if you are doing enough serious recording with a mirrorless or dslr, you can avoid heat problems by using an external recorder.

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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also internal fans will run you into vibration problems

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:54 PM

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I could design a fan cooling system that would work without a case and in the rain

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so could they

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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left heart also internal fans will run you into vibration problems

Not if you turn the fan off if you need to

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like you can on the R5C and stuff

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and the grips

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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well, if I'm out shooting long exposures I wouldn't want my camera moving. but that's going to be what gets my sensor the hottest

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Some camera bodies accept fans. And my battery grips are as well. Seems like this is going around in circles.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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left heart well, if I'm out shooting long exposures I wouldn't want my camera moving. but t...

Shooting stills is fine on pretty much all of the R line

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the overheating issue is mostly for video

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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prisma dove Some camera bodies accept fans. And my battery grips are as well. Seems like thi...

They all should

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even the R10

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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I get the feeling there's some buyer's remorse here, for picking a certain DSLR line.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:56 PM

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maybe not the R50 because that'd be kinda ridiculous, same for the 100

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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prisma dove I get the feeling there's some buyer's remorse here, for picking a certain DSLR ...

I tried many other brands and cameras, the R line seemed like the best for me

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The Lumix S5II came VERY close

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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languid cradle They *all* should

Why should they? Cost money to develop WR into cameras and accessories. Not everyone wants to buy it, so there are different lines within manufacturers, for choice.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:57 PM

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prisma dove Why *should* they? Cost money to develop WR into cameras and accessories. Not ev...

Because they already made some, can charge whatever they want, etc

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It could cost $1,000 and I'd buy it

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the grip for the R8 for example, if that existed

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with a fan

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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But they do that already. Sony, Fuji.

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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again the r3 is a camera designed for sports stills

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:58 PM

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I tried Sony and they weren't... want I needed.

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and their color is not great and I don't do color grading, and won't start

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 9:59 PM

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left heart again the r3 is a camera designed for sports stills

Doesn't matter what it's designed for, if it's their main camera line, the flagship should do EVERYTHING if they give you the lead

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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sorry, that's not how products work

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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that's cool. I don't want to learn color grading either. Although, it's not that difficult once you learn the how. It's learning to control how much, so you don't go too far.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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especially in 2024 when its so trivial I could literally tell them how to do it

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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prisma dove But they do that already. Sony, Fuji.

I haven't tried any Fujis or Nikons

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Heard good things though

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:00 PM

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yep, I'm out. Flagships are usually designed for a certain pricepoint, not the unlimited model.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:01 PM

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If a camera costs 6 grand in 2024 it better be able to outperform a phone

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if it can't, that's embarassing and a waste of money

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:01 PM

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and yet, for 6 grand, it doesn't have cellular?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:01 PM

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Sure!

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Why doesn't it?

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It has wifi and bluetooth

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and ethernet

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kidding (mostly)

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It might also not have GPS which is dumb but I might be incorrect

sudden adder Dec 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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prisma dove and yet, for 6 grand, it doesn't have cellular?

Why doesnt it have a grill and smoker too? Lots of people take pictures of their meats

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:02 PM

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it's important to remember that cameras are specialized instruments. if you want to jack of all trades it, it's going to be master of none

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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left heart it's important to remember that cameras are specialized instruments. if you want...

But it COULD be and they have little reason for not

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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languid cradle It might also not have GPS which is dumb but I might be incorrect

my X-H2 does have BT, and with the file transmitter battery grip, also wifi, ethernet, 2 more batteries and USB. And I payed under $2000USD for the body and grip.

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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sudden adder Why doesnt it have a grill and smoker too? Lots of people take pictures of thei...

hey now!

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My smoker is wifi too

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:03 PM

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prisma dove and yet, for 6 grand, it doesn't have cellular?

I mean for the video recording...

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cmon context people

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My 5 year old phone can record 4K60 until the storage is full

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:04 PM

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languid cradle I mean for the video recording...

Okay, context.
That battery grip let's me record too PC, or other network storage directly.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:04 PM

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no overheating nonsense

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that's because it has a 5nm processor inside

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Canon should take notes on that

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:04 PM

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Then why complain here? Find Canon.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:04 PM

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and make something that isn't a 20+nm one that overheats and clearly needs better cooling

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:05 PM

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prisma dove Then why complain here? Find Canon.

because I posted a meme and someone told me I was wrong

sudden adder Dec 13, 2024, 10:05 PM

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Apply for a job at Canon as an ideas man

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:05 PM

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sudden adder Apply for a job at Canon as an ideas man

Actually considering that

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Or I'd start a crowdfunding thing so I can basically make the GX10 but in 2027 or whatever - An updated consumer 4K60 camcorder

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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prisma dove Okay, context. That battery grip let's me record too PC, or other network storag...

On the go?

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Intel NUC?

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no jank?

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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I wouldn't be too quick to point to the processor's manufacturing node considering how complicated processing bottlenecks can turn out to be computationally

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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really sounding like buyer's remorse. Fuji will heat up to, I can get probably 30 minutes of 4k60. But most of the time, my shots only last 5-10 minutes. If you need a camera to record 4k60 for extended periods, you should look at different equipment.

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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languid cradle On the go?

Yeah, I can set it up for on-the-go.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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prisma dove really sounding like buyer's remorse. Fuji will heat up to, I can get probably 3...

I have looked at a lot of different equipment

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:06 PM

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external recorders?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:07 PM

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for example, the R5C I usually shoot with (because I have really no other option), I had a Panasonic HC-X1500 for 2 days and immediately realized it was garbage

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then I got a GX10 and that was AMAZING, but of course looked a decade old and the video quality was falling behind

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:07 PM

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prisma dove external recorders?

Very jank

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and expensive

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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Not really that expensive and definitely not jank, as you can get industry standard video recording.

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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compared to full frame glass? not really doggolul

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:08 PM

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prisma dove Not really that expensive and definitely not jank, as you can get industry stand...

hmmmm

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:09 PM

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expense is relative to your means and your goals.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:09 PM

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People have brought this up to me a few times already but I just assumed it would be extremely jank and annoying to carry around with me recording/walking/on location

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:10 PM

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But yes, good equipment can be expensive, but it should be to a point, to help ensure quality and reliability of the recordings

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:10 PM

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but if it doesn't require an additional power source that might work

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:10 PM

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languid cradle but if it doesn't require an additional power source that might work

Battery power is an option on many recorders.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:10 PM

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prisma dove But yes, good equipment can be expensive, but it should be to a point, to help e...

That's why we started at the R50, and then ended up at the R3

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(The R100 wasn't out yet XD we had preordered the R50)

terse helm Dec 13, 2024, 10:10 PM

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and at no point did it occur to you to buy a video camera?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:11 PM

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terse helm and at no point did it occur to you to buy a video camera?

Read the thread

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yes

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It did

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and yes I did

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:11 PM

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prisma dove Battery power is an option on many recorders.

Could I possibly bug you for a link to a decent one?

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I was gonna Google search it but tbh there's so much trash out there, I'd have gone down a rabbit hole

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:12 PM

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shit, my next purchase is a gimbal for the X-H2. Love the camera for video

terse helm Dec 13, 2024, 10:12 PM

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atomos ninja?

sudden adder Dec 13, 2024, 10:13 PM

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prisma dove shit, my next purchase is a gimbal for the X-H2. Love the camera for video

Remember the good old days when VHS cameras were tethered to the deck itself?

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:13 PM

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languid cradle Could I possibly bug you for a link to a decent one?

This one is on my purchase list for next fall. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicvideoassist
Just need to pick the model.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:14 PM

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terse helm atomos ninja?

ProRes is a lil too big sadly - It doesn't say it can do 264 or 265

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:14 PM

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yeah it does

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:14 PM

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sudden adder Remember the good old days when VHS cameras were tethered to the deck itself?

I still have my Sony Hi-8 camcorder. I have 20-30 tapes full of vacation and family vids to digitize.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:15 PM

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left heart yeah it does

Oh dang the B&H page should be updated then

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:15 PM

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sudden adder Remember the good old days when VHS cameras were tethered to the deck itself?

Lool

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We've come a long way since the 8- wait... (XD)

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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are you sure you're looking at the page for the newest one? could be a new feature

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1779413-REG/atomos_atomnj004_ninja_5_recording_monitor.html/?ap=y&ap=y&smp=y&smp=y&store=420&lsft=BI%3A6879&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0--6BhCBARIsADYqyL81cN3VETz_lckmFHvMEZE5ycM4VyCcxmIIyuhr3YLIqTkKVDQak8saAuShEALw_wcB

terse helm Dec 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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tbh almost all those things can record h264 or h265, anything beyond that is the selling point

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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what with the whole "new Ninja line" part

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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left heart are you sure you're looking at the page for the newest one? could be a new featu...

I might not be

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:16 PM

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terse helm tbh almost all those things can record h264 or h265, anything beyond that is the...

Good thing they aren't Canon and removing consumery features

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Huh I might have to try this

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:19 PM

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as much as I wish Fuji would fix their stupid spatial filtering on raw files, I know that's never going to happen. they care too much about hot pixels and decided to take that tradeoff. there's no two ways around it, I just have to do the best with what I've got.

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:20 PM

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they need to fix the bad firmware updates that screwed with AF

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:20 PM

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unless I decide to be the only person on the planet who firmware hacks an XT3, I just make do with what I've got.

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:20 PM

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lol I'm glad I shoot MF on my X-T3

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:21 PM

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Being able to mix&match is one of the big things that I very much like, so yeah for as long as the camera can output a good&clean feed to an external recorder I'm happy

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:21 PM

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tall vapor Being able to mix&match is one of the big things that I very much like, so yeah ...

yep, and it looks like the majority of hybrid shooters agree with you on that which is why we're here in the market

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:22 PM

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clean output 👍

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:22 PM

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external recorders also allow you to get better encoders&new codecs without swappin out the entire body

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:23 PM

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and LUTs
and some have separate mic inputs, external recording to USB storage.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:23 PM

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yup

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or just directly to NVMe, dependin on your bandwith reqs

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:23 PM

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that would be nice

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8k60 here we come

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:24 PM

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cfexpress is very much a thing for example, and that's literally PCIe nvme let's go

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:25 PM

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I don't like the prices on CF Express, but for video recording it's practically necessary.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:26 PM

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aye

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:29 PM

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tall vapor or just directly to NVMe, dependin on your bandwith reqs

Jesus

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:30 PM

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prisma dove I don't like the prices on CF Express, but for video recording it's practically ...

Actually the prices on those aren't bad

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140 bucks or so for a really fast 512GB card

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I mean that's like twice as much as an NVMe

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but it's tiny and meant to go into your camera

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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miniaturization comes at a premium

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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it's not like Canon's 300 buck USB-C power adapter

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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languid cradle but it's tiny and meant to go into your camera

it's pretty damn expensive considerin that it's p much just a 2230 m.2 drive but in a different package p much

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:31 PM

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true

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could be worse though for sure

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could be Red

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I guess they make more NVMes than they make CFExpress cards?

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:32 PM

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languid cradle could be Red

red with their cheapo msata drives in a case with a different connector on it?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:32 PM

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the mags

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:32 PM

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yes

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:33 PM

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languid cradle I guess they make more NVMes than they make CFExpress cards?

way more. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more ps5s than cfexpress cards in the world

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:34 PM

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LOL

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wow ok then I'm surprised they aren't a dollar per gig

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(still)

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:36 PM

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cause there's nothing all too special about them

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:36 PM

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Economy of scale

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:36 PM

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well yeah, but nonetheless

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those would hit harder if they actually were special

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that's what I mean

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:37 PM

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They are special because they go into your camera well

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a 2230 wouldn't do that

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Oh and they're fast

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you could say the same about SD cards really

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:38 PM

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languid cradle They are special because they go into your camera well

on a technical standpoint is a 2230 but in a different package and with an actual connector on it rather than just the goldfingers

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:38 PM

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V90 SD cards especially

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:38 PM

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tall vapor it's pretty damn expensive considerin that it's p much just a 2230 m.2 drive but...

BlalB

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:38 PM

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what

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:39 PM

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tall vapor on a technical standpoint is a 2230 but in a different package and with an actua...

You could say that for any SSD really

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It's all the same NAND right

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:40 PM

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point is that the cfexpress cards are more expensive than they should be all while considerin the economics of scale still

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:41 PM

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I have a feeling they might be LOOSING money on them

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actually

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:41 PM

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oh absolutely not kek

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:42 PM

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I mean if the prices of NVMe drives are what they are and CFExpress costs are what they are..

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:42 PM

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those cards are considered to be "pro equipment", and as soon as something as classed as such the margins go through the roof

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:42 PM

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twice the price might not even be enough - they must be razor thin profits

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:42 PM

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absolutely not

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Before we started looking into them, I thought they costed like 3x more than they do

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Like 3 years ago

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but it turns out they don't cost much more than external SSDs

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prices vary of course though

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:43 PM

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Here's a flash drive.
What's the connector?
USB 3.0
okay, dirt cheap, dime a dozen.

Same chips, but now for "high speed recording and burst photography"
More money, more money.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:44 PM

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flash drives actually are cheaper tho

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hence me comparing them cfe cards to 2230 nvme drives

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cause those are much closer

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same fully integrated nand+controller chip package&all that

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:45 PM

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prisma dove Here's a flash drive. What's the connector? USB 3.0 okay, dirt cheap, dime a d...

And they are usually all junk

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drop speed instantly

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:45 PM

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Yeah, I oversimplified, just the core chip.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:45 PM

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I've only found one that isn't

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the Buffalo one

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:45 PM

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prisma dove Yeah, I oversimplified, just the core chip.

on the 2230s the controller and nand is in a single package usually

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:46 PM

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well that's nice, if I need to hack one out and Macgyver it.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:46 PM

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which are absolutely the same packages as what they stick into the cfe cards

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would be ridiculous not to

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:48 PM

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I shopping for a couple new card readers now, since I have "expanded" to CF Express, along with my existing SD cards. Although, the data transfer via USB from the camera body has not been that bad. Luckily not a large amount of files yet, but I would love to have back up cards to alternate out when they get full vs copy/format each time.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:50 PM

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tall vapor would be ridiculous not to

kek

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wondered whether there be adaptors as me thinking made way too much sense, and well...

left heart Dec 13, 2024, 10:51 PM

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I like the little thermometer on that photo doggolul

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:51 PM

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tall vapor wondered whether there be adaptors as me thinking made way too much sense, and w...

the 2230 m.2 nvme drive with the connector adapter board fits a little /TOO/ well

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just sayin

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:52 PM

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I have a combo SD/CFE reader but I can't find it anymore online lol

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:52 PM

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left heart I like the little thermometer on that photo <:doggolul:1059956953490673806>

Yea tbh it would probably get so hot it would kill itself if someone did that

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false advertising

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:52 PM

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tall vapor just sayin

and yes there's adapters for the other way round too

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:53 PM

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languid cradle Yea tbh it would probably get so hot it would kill itself if someone did that

what

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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Found it! https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1772205-REG/lexar_lrw520u_rnbng_professional_cfexpress_type_b_sd.html?ap=y&smp=Y&srsltid=AfmBOopbA4lhXDyA7gzmKifY6HmxLk3ZR0mredmdt1w-AaiZ13x9D6df3fw&gQT=2

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@prisma dove This one has been great to me and it comes with a USB-C and a USB-A cable

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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tall vapor what

yes

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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yup, and those are the same as those m.2 nvme enclosures but as a slot thing with cfe slot

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:54 PM

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Those get so hot they often need heat sinks

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:55 PM

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oh, thanks, I've already found the two I want. One for home and one portable.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:55 PM

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prisma dove oh, thanks, I've already found the two I want. One for home and one portable.

ah

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 10:55 PM

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I just think it's funny that me chain of thought with "oh those cfe cards totally are just 2230 m.2 nvme drives but with a different connector on it" is literally all there is to it

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:55 PM

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For stationary I have an OWC enclosure that just happened to have a built-in CFExpress reader

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 10:56 PM

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tall vapor I just think it's funny that me chain of thought with "oh those cfe cards totall...

When you've actually tried to put one of those in a camera, you'll see it's a bad idea

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Don't loose footage over it though

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https://shop.progradedigital.com/products/prograde-digital-cfexpress™-type-b-4-0-memory-card-gold?variant=44125854269687&country=US&currency=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&tw_source=google&tw_adid=720147200594&tw_campaign=17431927662&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA0--6BhCBARIsADYqyL_xNUBAS8D9xINamimBmA1_0pTJf76HzFd-ZwGL1i0s8YRU23OAxJQaApy0EALw_wcB
that's a bit more than I thought for this but it's just how the expensive camera scene works I guess

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For example the USB-C Canon power adapter costs 300 bucks

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and they have 2 different ones - One that costs 200 and one that costs 300

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and they're both just USB-C PD

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 10:59 PM

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whoa, hold off on those links. We don't need all your search data in there.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:00 PM

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No I'm trying to not talk out my ass, or appear to be

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Not my fault it didn't embed

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:00 PM

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no, I'm saying we don't need everything in the link after the "?"

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:00 PM

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I don't screw with the links

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:01 PM

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it's not screwing with the links

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:01 PM

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Especially if I don't know what all of the info is

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it is

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removing stuff in the link is

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I'm not gonna mess with it

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:01 PM

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you can easiy test it yourself.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:01 PM

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If I cared

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Not a big problem for me though

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so I just don't

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:02 PM

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nice attitude, just helping you not clutter the server with posts that are longer than they need to be.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:02 PM

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It's not a problem

amber sparrow Dec 13, 2024, 11:02 PM

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Good footfinder pic?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:02 PM

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foot reveal

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:02 PM

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deadpool and wolverine, nice

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:02 PM

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Oh no what is footfinder.......

amber sparrow Dec 13, 2024, 11:03 PM

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Its......a thing

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doggolul

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:03 PM

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🫣

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:03 PM

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😏

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:03 PM

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I mean okay, the full cf express cards got the connector already on there of course, but otherwise 😅

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:04 PM

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And they're optimized for the use case, etc etc

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:04 PM

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m.2 nvme drives are fast, that's correct

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:04 PM

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and hot. Too hot.

opaque halo Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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amber sparrow Good footfinder pic?

Man.. I miss seeing Feets in here 🙂

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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"optimized" by marketing, for their intended customers.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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yup

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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that too

amber sparrow Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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opaque halo Man.. I miss seeing Feets in here 🙂

Makes 1 of us

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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but also no

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It's called not losing footage becuase of your equipment

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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in that pic above, see that? That's some nand and a bogstandard phison nvme controller

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:05 PM

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and as the class has learned today, there are options for that.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:06 PM

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tall vapor in that pic above, see that? That's some nand and a bogstandard phison nvme cont...

what's on the other side

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:06 PM

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languid cradle what's on the other side

nothing

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:06 PM

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what's the thermals of that compared to a 128GB nvme

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at a consistent 2000MB/s write

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:06 PM

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languid cradle what's the thermals of that compared to a 128GB nvme

the exact same as a 128gb nvme using the exact same chips

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:07 PM

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probably not good

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I rest my case

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:07 PM

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tall vapor the exact same as a 128gb nvme using the exact same chips

Well clearly that can't be the whole story or no one would be buying CFexpress cards

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:07 PM

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languid cradle Well clearly that can't be the whole story or no one would be buying CFexpress c...

you can't just walk up to your dayjob with those adapted m.2 drives

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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prisma dove and as the class has learned today, there are options for that.

Yes, like buying the correct equipment in the first place

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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not for any technical reason

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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tall vapor you can't just walk up to your dayjob with those adapted m.2 drives

Exactly

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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yeah but there's no technical reasons as to why ya can't

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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Because it's a bad idea

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that's why

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like sure it'll work for a lil bit

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then you'll have footage missing at some point

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:08 PM

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🍿

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:09 PM

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and then it will stop working

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:09 PM

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prisma dove 🍿

Exactly

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:09 PM

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🤨

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:09 PM

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It'll pop like popcorn™️

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(overexaggeration)

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:09 PM

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That's not what my popcorn is for.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:09 PM

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the point is it'll overheat

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and kill itself

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so don't?

opaque halo Dec 13, 2024, 11:10 PM

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prisma dove That's not what my popcorn is for.

🍺 have one on me

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:11 PM

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I'm all out of beer today, but after tomorrow's costco run, I'll be stocked.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:11 PM

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Forgive me for not wanting people to loose footage because they want to be clever.

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:13 PM

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eh, it's not that. It's your approach. A lot of us here already have done our research and found our solutions for our goals and needs.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:13 PM

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I never said that I recommended folk to plug m.2 ssds into their own adapters rather than buying one that is preadapted

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All I did was lookin into it

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:14 PM

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tall vapor I never said that I recommended folk to plug m.2 ssds into their own adapters ra...

Just explaining why no one should

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:14 PM

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some of us are certainly curious on "how would that shit work" and we like to FAFO. for curiosity sake.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:14 PM

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just in case someone sees that and says "huh, that's a cool solution!" and they do it, only to turn out for it to be a very hot solution

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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prisma dove some of us are certainly curious on "how would that shit work" and we like to FA...

Ye

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I'm not disputing that

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I'm just trying to discourage people from losing footage

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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Like if I did do that of course I'd pick me drives wisely rather than droppin a random 2230 off of aliexpress or wherever into me adapter

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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Because we all can agree that's... bad..

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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languid cradle just in case someone sees that and says "huh, that's a cool solution!" and they ...

most people come here after doing that, thinking something is a cool solution. So warning them is too late.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:15 PM

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tall vapor Like if I did do that of course I'd pick me drives wisely rather than droppin a ...

No I mean even WD drives

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it's just a bad idea

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:16 PM

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prisma dove most people come here *after* doing that, thinking something is a cool solution....

Ok

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I'm still curious about the temps

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because I could be wrong but I'll probably never know

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:17 PM

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languid cradle I'm still curious about the temps

not all that bad actually, cause yeah it's the same chips but in a different package. Hell the cfe cards got the metal plates there exactly because they act as heatspreaders

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:18 PM

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I wonder if that's the difference

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The NVMe might not be getting as good contact with metal

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:18 PM

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thermalpads just the same

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:19 PM

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maybe

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:19 PM

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the main factor that limits the cfe cards from overheating is that I have never seen one that does pcie 4x4 at full speed

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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3500MB/s doesn't require that?

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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languid cradle 3500MB/s doesn't require that?

no

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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oh yup

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8

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yeeaaahhh I doubt anyone would ever need that

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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type a cards are a single lane, type b cards are 2 lanes, type c cards are 4 lanes

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:20 PM

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Unless one wanted to take 16-bit 12K60 raw video

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:21 PM

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and when you put your own m.2 2230 nvme drive into a type b adaptor you totally would be limiting it to the 2 lanes as well, of course

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:22 PM

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I can't find a single picture of a type C card

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maybe they just don't make them yet

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:22 PM

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tall vapor and when you put your own m.2 2230 nvme drive into a type b adaptor you totally ...

maybe

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but I mean if you put one in an iPod it'll overheat

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so speed somehow isn't the problem (Contrary to one of my questions earlier)

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:22 PM

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languid cradle I can't find a single picture of a type C card

was announced in august 2023, but yeah there's nothing out there yet as nothing requires it

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:23 PM

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ah

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would be cool having it though for just some really fast tiny external storage

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:23 PM

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languid cradle but I mean if you put one in an iPod it'll overheat

in an ipod there is no heat dissipation for one at all, and with all the modders that I've seen doing that I haven't seen one that ensures that the ssd is coupled to the chassis

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:23 PM

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I don't think there's any 8GBps external drives you can buy

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definitely not in that form factor

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:23 PM

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and in an ipod ya can overheat even if ya dissipate like a watt for too long as there's no way to dissipate it

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:24 PM

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tall vapor in an ipod there is no heat dissipation for one at all, and with all the modders...

thermal pad that contacts the metal back - iPod from 2004 btw

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:24 PM

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languid cradle thermal pad that contacts the metal back - iPod from 2004 btw

actually verified that it contacts?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:24 PM

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through the back getting extremely hot I assume

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:24 PM

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I'd stick the drive to the back and then assemble

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:24 PM

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DankPods probably did that tbh

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:25 PM

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seen that video, nah that's not what happened

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:25 PM

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dang

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:25 PM

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😅

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:25 PM

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welp that's my source XD

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and the heatsinks that come with motherboards for NVMe drives

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:26 PM

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on the motherboards you actually do gen 4x4 or hell even gen 5x4

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:26 PM

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true

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:26 PM

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and in an ipod I can imagine that the power management of the drive be acting weird, with the whole PATA to nvme adapting business

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:26 PM

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I wish my MacBook Pro had a CFExpress slot

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:27 PM

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tall vapor and in an ipod I can imagine that the power management of the drive be acting we...

The thing is he used an adapter that's made to do that

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specifically

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with a controller and everything

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specifically for iPods

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:27 PM

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languid cradle The thing is he used an adapter that's made to do that

still an active adapter, doesn't exclude it from acting weird

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:27 PM

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Sources are fleeting.
I'm curious, what camera you have that records 12k60? And you haven't discussed bitrates either, which impact the data writing.
Or is the 12k60 reference purely hypothetical? because if one can afford the 12k cameras that are available, they are probably aware of the best pratices for recording and storage solutions.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:27 PM

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tall vapor still an active adapter, doesn't exclude it from acting weird

damn

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:27 PM

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prisma dove Sources are fleeting. I'm curious, what camera you have that records 12k60? And ...

I believe LMG records 12K

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:28 PM

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and the ipod adaptor specifically prolly has like a small list of recommended drives

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:28 PM

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but they're probably only doing 30fps

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:28 PM

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tall vapor and the ipod adaptor specifically prolly has like a small list of recommended dr...

Yup

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oh yea and he was using one that wasn't on that list XD

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because it was too long

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And possibly other reasons

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:28 PM

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yeah

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and adapting new new stuffs to old old stuffs with active adapters&all

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that can get weird quickly

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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languid cradle I believe LMG records 12K

so, hypothetical

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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no

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since it exists

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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tall vapor that can get weird quickly

Frankenstein weird

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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and we can very accurately calculate the storage requirements

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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prisma dove Frankenstein weird

yup

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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languid cradle since it exists

No I mean in your hands for your use.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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Hell nah

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I've only done 8K60 RAW

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my puny 2000MB/s CFX cards were outmatched

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but we know what 12K60 RAW would require

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so it's not like I have to actually have something that can do it

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it's just multiplying pixels

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:31 PM

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I'd rather have wisdom from direct experience

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:31 PM

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No direct experience can improve how the math works

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You can't use most CFExpress cards for 12K video. Why? Because they aren't fast enough. Basic math.

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Experience is immaterial to this point

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:33 PM

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That.. makes no sense. Math comes from experience, just like wisdom comes from experience. That's all.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:33 PM

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If you have the numbers, you can do the same calculations as someone with the camera can

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:33 PM

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either way. No, sticking a decent 2230 into a cfe type b card and actually using the thermal pad that comes with the adapter won't give you any thermal issues whatsoever, since that is what the official cards do too (hell and those adapters usually give you more metal even than the official cards do, so it wouldn't surprise me if adapted runs cooler even 😅

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:33 PM

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and having the numbers is as easy as taking 4K60 and multiplying it by 3 I'm pretty sure

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wait no

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:33 PM

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I think Cookie has some better math from experience on that.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:34 PM

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4K15

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Again you don't need experience to do the math

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hang on

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:34 PM

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no, I won't be hanging onto anything.

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:35 PM

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languid cradle and having the numbers is as easy as taking 4K60 and multiplying it by 3 I'm pre...

multiplying 4k60 by 3 to get to 12k60? Uh no.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:35 PM

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15fps

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I corrected myself after

tall vapor Dec 13, 2024, 11:36 PM

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whether it's 15 or 60 doesn't matter here

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cause 12k is 3 times the number of pixels on the x axis, but also on the y axis

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so really 12k is 9 4k feeds

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:38 PM

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yea I'm dumb sometimes

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Bytes per second of a 12K60 stream at 12-bit

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You don't need a camera to use a calculator.

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Alr I forgot something but still

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:40 PM

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and yet nowadays, 99% of calculators have cameras!

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:42 PM

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bam

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that's what you'd need for 12K60 RAW 12-bit

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:42 PM

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prisma dove and yet nowadays, 99% of calculators have cameras!

??

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20GBps - that's the number - no amount of experience is going to change that

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:44 PM

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languid cradle ??

sorry what?

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:48 PM

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prisma dove sorry what?

It was random

prisma dove Dec 13, 2024, 11:48 PM

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Irony can be random.

languid cradle Dec 13, 2024, 11:49 PM

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ok

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:07 AM

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We’re ordering the Ninja to see if it does something useful for us

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The only problem I can see is how it would be mounted. It would have to not be near the shoe because of the mic array I have to have there because the cameras don’t have stereo mics for some reason

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But if it’s not there… then I’m holding it, and that won’t work.

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I prefer experience over a lot of research so I just said screw it and we ordered it.

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:10 AM

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camera cage, with multiple mounting points.

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I use a SmallRig cage for my X-S20, with a Universal Handle, and a couple other adapters to mount my external monitor, battery, wireless mic receiver and shotgun mic.

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:13 AM

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Sounds like hell honestly

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But if people didn’t use them, they wouldn’t make em!

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:14 AM

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Maybe a little research?

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This is how you build a camera rig.

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Find the components that help you reach your goals

terse helm Dec 14, 2024, 12:14 AM

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yeah that's pretty standard once you want more than one thing to go with the camera

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:15 AM

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I don’t want that though

terse helm Dec 14, 2024, 12:15 AM

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well

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:15 AM

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I’d much rather just have a camera do everything

terse helm Dec 14, 2024, 12:15 AM

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no one wants it

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but need

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:16 AM

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Imagine if Canon put a stereo mic, a flash, a slightly better battery, and a fan into the R3

left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:16 AM

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it'd be a whole lot bigger

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:16 AM

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They do that for the R10 and below (except for the fan and battery)

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:16 AM

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If you build it, they will come.

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:16 AM

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left heart it'd be a whole lot bigger

Nope

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The R5C exists

left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:17 AM

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also why are you using internal mics for anything other than sync?

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:17 AM

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This sounds a lot like the arguments for why certain hardware features are not standard in laptops.

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:17 AM

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It’s barely bigger and actually it’s much smaller than the R3

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:17 AM

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left heart also why are you using internal mics for anything other than sync?

Because when one is on the go….

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:18 AM

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shotgun mic, which at least is better scratch audio if needed vs internal mic scratch audio.
(although, I was surprised with the internal mics (stereo) on the X-H2. Decent quality)

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:18 AM

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prisma dove This sounds a lot like the arguments for why certain hardware features are not s...

Some of that is really stupid as well but they have ok explanations mostly

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:18 AM

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prisma dove shotgun mic, which at least is better scratch audio if needed vs internal mic sc...

I have that

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The problem is it’s in the shoe

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Which means I can’t have a flash

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Which also means I’d have to carry both my big flash unit and that mic

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And I’d have to switch them mid-walk

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That’s extremely irritating

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:19 AM

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No, most aren't stupid.
First, how do you power all those "standard features" on battery?
Second, how do miniaturize it and be marketable?

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Why would you need a flash for video?

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:19 AM

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prisma dove No, most aren't stupid. First, how do you power all those "standard features" o...

Current+voltage

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:20 AM

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prisma dove Why would you need a flash for video?

Photos

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And the flash unit has a light on it

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Which is very useful for video

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Especially in the dark when the R5C focus doesn’t know what the hell to do

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:20 AM

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dude, you are niitpicking on stuff that already has real world solutions.

left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:20 AM

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languid cradle Nope

yep.

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:20 AM

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If they had real world solutions that worked for this use case, I’d either have them or have heard of them

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:21 AM

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left heart yep.

Like I said, BARELY.

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And still much smaller than the R3 which does overheat, and doesn’t have a fan still

terse helm Dec 14, 2024, 12:22 AM

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you can also get something like this

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left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:22 AM

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okay lemme put it this way, if I'm shooting a sports event and the R3 was that much larger than the competition, I'd know what camera not to buy.

terse helm Dec 14, 2024, 12:22 AM

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if you weant to stick to the hotshoe mount

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obviously multiple variations on this theme exist

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:23 AM

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terse helm

Ah yea that’s what I imagined - that could work

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But again that would have to carry the signals from the shoe

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Because that’s how the mic works

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:23 AM

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left heart okay lemme put it this way, if I'm shooting a sports event and the R3 was that m...

I have both hang on I’ll take a photo

prisma dove Dec 14, 2024, 12:24 AM

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I'd recommend a cage, and use its cold shoe mount plus multiple screw-in points. That Y bracket, with too much weight on it, will weaken a hot shoe mount over time. And that's a repair you don't want to pay for.

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:25 AM

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The R3 is significantly bigger

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And the R5C didn’t need to be THAT much bigger to have a fan

left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:26 AM

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the r3 has a built-in vertical battery grip...

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:26 AM

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They just wanted to use as much of their current design as possible

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:26 AM

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left heart the r3 has a built-in vertical battery grip...

Which doesn’t have a fan

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But this one does

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You literally can’t even add a fan to the R3

left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:27 AM

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difference here is I'd actually be using a vertical grip to shoot stills and wasting that space if I got it for video

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:27 AM

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See that hole?

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Why they couldn’t do this for the R3 internally I will never know

left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:28 AM

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see above discussion about weather sealing?

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I feel like we're just going in circles. specialized tools are made for specialized tasks

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:29 AM

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I also said I could design a fan cooling solution that doesn’t make that impossible

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So could they

left heart Dec 14, 2024, 12:29 AM

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go for it, good luck

languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:30 AM

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Well one could always just… you know.. have a cover for the exhaust and intake vents

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And turn off the fan when you use them in the rain

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Not high tech but probably what they should have done

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languid cradle Dec 14, 2024, 12:32 AM

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left heart I feel like we're just going in circles. specialized tools are made for speciali...

Photography and videography can be classed as specialties, true

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Kinda redundant to say though

amber sparrow Dec 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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Ahead of my ping

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Nice.job sapiens

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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i want the elon trading bot

amber sparrow Dec 14, 2024, 2:27 AM

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No

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doggolul

marble meadow Dec 14, 2024, 10:38 AM

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hey i am a video editer can some one help me to make some money ???

livid plover Dec 14, 2024, 10:39 AM

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you can try listing your services as a video editor on fiverr or similar sites looking for work 🙂

marble meadow Dec 14, 2024, 10:39 AM

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livid plover you can try listing your services as a video editor on fiverr or similar sites l...

but not geting any work

marble meadow Dec 14, 2024, 11:00 AM

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can some one help me to make money

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 11:58 AM

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Wrong server I'd say

wise bayBOT Dec 14, 2024, 12:08 PM

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marble meadow can some one help me to make money

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

rustic oriole Dec 14, 2024, 1:05 PM

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what is this server for exactly? i joined it but i completly forgot what for

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 1:06 PM

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rustic oriole what is this server for exactly? i joined it but i completly forgot what for

OBS OBS

rustic oriole Dec 14, 2024, 1:06 PM

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civic quarry <:OBS:353225991499415572> OBS

but what is obs, what does it stand for?

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 1:07 PM

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Open Broadcaster Software
https://www.obsproject.com

rustic oriole Dec 14, 2024, 1:07 PM

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the discord call recorder or smth like that?

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 1:07 PM

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A video recording and streaming program

rustic oriole Dec 14, 2024, 1:07 PM

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oh

amber sparrow Dec 14, 2024, 4:08 PM

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A little over 2.5 hours of straight chore'n. Time for a break

karmic tiger Dec 14, 2024, 4:12 PM

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GG

floral shale Dec 14, 2024, 4:23 PM

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TONIGHT

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WE

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STEAL

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ZE MOON

livid plover Dec 14, 2024, 4:24 PM

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no put it back

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 4:25 PM

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PepeNote

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 8:06 PM

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@karmic tiger AMD AV1 is this bad? You really need "Speed" on an RX 7900 XTX?

karmic tiger Dec 14, 2024, 8:07 PM

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apparently?

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 8:07 PM

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Holy...

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Alright, no "back to team red" for me, then

karmic tiger Dec 14, 2024, 8:07 PM

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not impossible there's some other factors so don't take that as a test

late surge Dec 14, 2024, 8:08 PM

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floral shale ZE MOON

Is it just me or are you sounding a lot like a German version of Vector from Despicable Me?

civic quarry Dec 14, 2024, 8:08 PM

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karmic tiger not impossible there's some other factors so don't take that as a test

Sure, still ..

karmic tiger Dec 14, 2024, 8:09 PM

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civic quarry Sure, still ..

nah, discord video call, I seen 40 series chug with that too

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idfk what discord does with its encoding but it does it wrong

floral shale Dec 14, 2024, 8:21 PM

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late surge Is it just me or are you sounding a lot like a German version of Vector from Des...

thats the meme

scarlet kernel Dec 14, 2024, 8:27 PM

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I'm pretty sure I have like... the best landlord ever

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she just brought me and my roommate homemade candy that she created herself

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best caramels I have ever tasted

karmic tiger Dec 14, 2024, 8:28 PM

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oooooh

scarlet kernel Dec 14, 2024, 8:28 PM

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plus she's only charging us $1350/mo for a 2 bedroom

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Also the ONLY ISP here is a fiber ISP that doesn't have horrible reviews- US Internet

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Price isn't amazing but better than comcast

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I'm spending $75 for gigabit symmetrical

full fern Dec 14, 2024, 8:31 PM

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Holy guacamole. I would never ever move.

scarlet kernel Dec 14, 2024, 8:32 PM

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full fern Holy guacamole. I would never ever move.

Plus walking distance of the biggest convention center in my state

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and a pharmacist

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and a doctor

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and the transit is great

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and the biking infrastructure is even better

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I'm in a really good situation

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Also I have a projector which means a really cool streaming background

full fern Dec 14, 2024, 8:33 PM

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That makes me so happy to hear you are happy! ❤️

scarlet kernel Dec 14, 2024, 8:34 PM

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Yeah!

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karmic tiger Dec 14, 2024, 8:35 PM

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💜

scarlet kernel Dec 14, 2024, 8:36 PM

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Pen you know how bad my situation was before so like you know how free i feel

karmic tiger Dec 14, 2024, 8:46 PM

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yeee, I deffo know how incredible that feels OBSHeart I'm sofucking glad for you!!!

full fern Dec 14, 2024, 8:53 PM

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The projector is awesome!

livid plover Dec 14, 2024, 9:09 PM

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haha that's a cool setup! bet it really pops with less outdoor light shining in too 😄

scarlet kernel Dec 14, 2024, 9:34 PM

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Yeah for sure

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but I need to get a tension rod for the curtain

sweet anchor Dec 14, 2024, 11:51 PM

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scarlet kernel

Okay yea that's pretty dope

amber sparrow Dec 15, 2024, 2:48 AM

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Had my first RL squishy save today
https://streamable.com/2mtt7k

sleek pewter Dec 15, 2024, 3:24 AM

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https://youtu.be/xz52XG6a4LI?si=DsO0Bk7qNdMBaCIo

austere pier Dec 15, 2024, 3:55 AM

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making robots sing

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vocal synth fans should recognize this robot

terse helm Dec 15, 2024, 4:13 AM

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you had one job

prisma dove Dec 15, 2024, 4:45 AM

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🤦‍♂️

copper notch Dec 15, 2024, 5:27 AM

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hahaha... well, I guess it's not as bad as the children's toy that had a QR code linking to a porn site earlier this year.

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 6:04 AM

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copper notch hahaha... well, I guess it's not as bad as the children's toy that had a QR code...

thought that was just the url printed out rather than a qr code?

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 6:05 AM

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I remember it being a QR code

terse helm Dec 15, 2024, 6:06 AM

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the url was definitely printed

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I think it had both

smoky rapids Dec 15, 2024, 6:23 AM

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It was printed. I know the movie/toy ya'll speak of.

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Context https://twitter.com/just2goodYT/status/1855382617085878447

terse helm Dec 15, 2024, 6:28 AM

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ah right wicked

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I couldn't remember what it was a doll for

smoky rapids Dec 15, 2024, 6:29 AM

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was going to link an article talking about it but the title within the link has a no-no word that'd definitely trip up the bot and Sarah saved me the trouble of posting it aha

terse helm Dec 15, 2024, 6:31 AM

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a no-no word in a title for an article?

smoky rapids Dec 15, 2024, 6:33 AM

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the word itself isn't bad but topically not appropriate for the server.

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actually doesn't look like it would've based on the filters from the factoid site but that's just what we see 😐

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I actually just went to check out one of the insta ban links from said filters as well and my adguard filter (DNS servers) said nope

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 8:41 AM

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WTF

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 8:46 AM

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The x3d'a can run a bit hot/quickly spike with load. Does it downclock bad from the temp or?

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 8:46 AM

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livid plover The x3d'a can run a bit hot/quickly spike with load. Does it downclock bad from ...

500 MHz on all cores now

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 8:46 AM

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Time to check that cooler

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 8:46 AM

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Was gaming just fine 10 hours ago with temps at 60 °C

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 8:47 AM

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civic quarry WTF

coretemp doesn't even list all the sensors that that thing got, please use something like hwinfo

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 8:47 AM

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civic quarry Was gaming just fine 10 hours ago with temps at 60 °C

if you're doing watercooling.... well well well, sounds like a dead pump/one that ain't really runnin at all

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cause yeah there's no coolin goin on there no more

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like..... 91°C at 38W? Yup that's major sus

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 8:49 AM

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Also 6.9gb ram idle? Bonkers

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 8:49 AM

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livid plover Also 6.9gb ram idle? Bonkers

the good ol' "discord and webbrowser open" idle

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kek

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 8:51 AM

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Throw in a single idle game and you're at 16gb just to live kek

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 8:52 AM

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livid plover Throw in a single idle game and you're at 16gb just to live <:kek:99101243935935...

32 gigs really aren't what they used to be, like there's reasons as for why I want access to a 128 gig pool of mem next time I do new computer kek

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 8:52 AM

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Yeah it's crazy how wasteful it's all gotten

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 8:52 AM

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...and I'm not even running windows

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 8:53 AM

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Eyup

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I do love booting the old controllers at work and seeing ram listed in the megabyte, or even less range

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Oh. It's 1MB on the newer one

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 8:58 AM

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I see ram in binary these days, tbh

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either I got enough

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Or I don't

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actual use? idc.

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 9:06 AM

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Pretty much

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 9:14 AM

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I have a feeling I accidentially unplugged the pump

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 9:23 AM

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oop-

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 9:48 AM

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oh yuup that'd explain it

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 11:46 AM

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Looking/sounding good now

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Top fans were on CPU_FAN, while the pump was on SYS_FAN - needed to be vice versa

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40 degrees now

silver fable Dec 15, 2024, 11:47 AM

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Just for my curiosity, what motherboard?

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 11:51 AM

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silver fable Just for my curiosity, what motherboard?

B450 Aorus Elite V2

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(it's in the image btw peepoShhh )

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 12:05 PM

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that'll do it if the fan curves allow case fans to stop yeah 😄

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i think was xorsh was looking for was if it has a water pump header instead

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 12:05 PM

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It does not, was the first thing I checked after coming home

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 12:06 PM

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just_right

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i learned the stupid way that those are full power, all the time, when my CPU fan was goign mile a minute at all times

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 12:07 PM

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Yup, the two AIO fans were having a great time running at almost 1,900 rounds doggolul

livid plover Dec 15, 2024, 12:09 PM

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kek

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yeah that's a fair oopsie to make

silver fable Dec 15, 2024, 12:23 PM

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civic quarry It does not, was the first thing I checked after coming home

Someone said there's a setting in the BIOS to tell it that it's a pump attached to the header, though, so it will run 100% all the time, but I couldn't find a screenshot to prove that.

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 12:24 PM

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silver fable Someone said there's a setting in the BIOS to tell it that it's a pump attached ...

BIOS only reads CPU_FAN and SYS_FAN 1 to 3 PeepoShrug

silver fable Dec 15, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Not that, a setting to tell it that the header used is for a pump and not a fan. That's what I was trying to find a screenshot of.

civic quarry Dec 15, 2024, 12:26 PM

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I might check next time I start the PC, just for sanity. At least it's working now

tall vapor Dec 15, 2024, 12:32 PM

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civic quarry I might check next time I start the PC, just for sanity. At least it's working n...

and if it doesn't have the option to set it to "pump" mode you can also just.... set it to static full speed and done

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😅

violet night Dec 15, 2024, 3:49 PM

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this is random but got a DM from a scammer impersonating a big name streamer

wise bayBOT Dec 15, 2024, 3:51 PM

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violet night this is random but got a DM from a scammer impersonating a big name streamer

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high hare Dec 15, 2024, 7:33 PM

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I see dead people

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You vs the man she tells you not to worry about

marsh helm Dec 15, 2024, 10:58 PM

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is the artic freezer 3 still the quietest aio?

silver fable Dec 15, 2024, 11:22 PM

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I've definitely moved away from AIOs ( both my PCs had them until this year ) and am now really thrilled with my Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black .

marsh helm Dec 15, 2024, 11:57 PM

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i have to use an aio i think

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air coolers arnt possible

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 12:20 AM

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that seems unlikely

sudden adder Dec 16, 2024, 12:35 AM

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marsh helm air coolers arnt possible

what size is your case?

silver fable Dec 16, 2024, 12:39 AM

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marsh helm i have to use an aio i think

What do you mean not possible? I don't think either my 9900k, or my 5950x are known for running cool.

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 1:10 AM

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what in the heck is this shit

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Jebaited

sudden adder Dec 16, 2024, 1:11 AM

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terse helm what in the heck is this shit

what site? Im asking... for a friend

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 1:11 AM

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twitch

sudden adder Dec 16, 2024, 1:11 AM

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what category? (excessive eyebrow raising gif meme)

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 1:11 AM

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"Sports"

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it's "presented by FanDuel" so presumably something betting-related

wary holly Dec 16, 2024, 1:12 AM

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Some channels restrict VODs to subscribers, is that relevant?

sudden adder Dec 16, 2024, 1:12 AM

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ah, sounds plausable.

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 1:12 AM

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no it's live

sudden adder Dec 16, 2024, 1:12 AM

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Sub only streams are a thing too I believe

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 1:13 AM

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it's probably just because of the gambling

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I can't use channel points to gamba either

smoky rapids Dec 16, 2024, 1:14 AM

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The same thing was happening during the world cup with one of those partnered channels who explicitly had permission to "Restream".

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silver fable Dec 16, 2024, 1:19 AM

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Looks like I'm moving from a state that doesn't allow it to a state that doesn't allow it. 👍

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 3:32 AM

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silver fable What do you mean not possible? I don't think either my 9900k, or my 5950x are kn...

lian li sup 01

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 3:32 AM

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silver fable Looks like I'm moving from a state that doesn't allow it to a state that doesn't...

woo im safe from fanduel

silver fable Dec 16, 2024, 3:36 AM

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marsh helm lian li sup 01

Yeah, in a teensy case with only ~80mm CPU height clearance, you may be limited. Seems you're also stuck with that GPU riser and vertical mount.

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 8:07 AM

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yuh but its coool

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doggolul

copper notch Dec 16, 2024, 9:42 AM

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Man, I miss using Lian Li cases. I have 2 of them from ages ago. They were so well precision made it was ridiculous.

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Each time I've needed a case since then I've looked at Lian Li first, but they haven't made cases that aligned with all features I wanted in a while. Primarily because I am too oldschool.

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I will refuse to give up my DVD+RW drive until the end of time, while throwing thumbtacks on my lawn to keep children away.

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🙂

silver fable Dec 16, 2024, 9:51 AM

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I bought a new Fractal Design case with a couple 5.25" drive bays a couple weeks ago.

sudden adder Dec 16, 2024, 3:04 PM

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Ive got an external 5.25 enclosure, so my two lian li cases without drive bays has been fine

tall vapor Dec 16, 2024, 3:06 PM

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haven't touched an optical disk in quite some time

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me touching a 3.5" floppy has been way more recent actually

void gale Dec 16, 2024, 3:36 PM

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catridges* :3

livid plover Dec 16, 2024, 3:53 PM

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cat ridges?

prisma dove Dec 16, 2024, 3:53 PM

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Ruffles has ridges. My cats, not so much

errant verge Dec 16, 2024, 4:34 PM

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Hey, i have a question but not about a problem I want to ask if someone can tell me how to do this in the Video in OBS because its Obviously a Minecraft plugin but maybe there is a way to do it in OBS ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d99PWwmYW7Y ) I mean that you can get shown random pictures from a folder and then type an answer and in maybe 10 min. the same.

wise bayBOT Dec 16, 2024, 4:43 PM

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errant verge Hey, i have a question but not about a problem I want to ask if someone can tell...

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

civic quarry Dec 16, 2024, 5:20 PM

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first day of a new job is stressful 😅

prisma dove Dec 16, 2024, 5:21 PM

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New job for you? Congrats!

opaque halo Dec 16, 2024, 5:21 PM

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All that fun HR training 🙂

civic quarry Dec 16, 2024, 5:21 PM

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new job same company so none of that, just jumping straight into things.

opaque halo Dec 16, 2024, 5:22 PM

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ah... hopefully it was due to a promotion.

civic quarry Dec 16, 2024, 5:22 PM

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it was!

prisma dove Dec 16, 2024, 5:22 PM

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🎉

opaque halo Dec 16, 2024, 5:23 PM

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CONGRATS!!

amber sparrow Dec 16, 2024, 5:24 PM

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Congrats on the promotion Mitchell!

civic quarry Dec 16, 2024, 5:24 PM

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definitely feels like a "fake it till you make it" situation but thats life I guess 😄

karmic tiger Dec 16, 2024, 5:25 PM

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GG yolo gayjam

amber sparrow Dec 16, 2024, 5:27 PM

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civic quarry definitely feels like a "fake it till you make it" situation but thats life I gu...

ChatGPT can assist with that

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doggolul

opaque halo Dec 16, 2024, 5:27 PM

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🤦‍♂️

civic quarry Dec 16, 2024, 5:28 PM

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and I'm sure it definitely will assist

amber sparrow Dec 16, 2024, 5:28 PM

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I watched "carry-on" last night. I really enjoyed it. Jason Bateman makes for a great bad guy. On the flip side, tried watching "subservience". Turned that trash off an hour in

civic quarry Dec 16, 2024, 5:28 PM

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I started watching Cross on prime last night

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pretty good

amber sparrow Dec 16, 2024, 5:29 PM

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Oh that has the dr dude from New Amsterdam

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Might check that out

civic quarry Dec 16, 2024, 5:32 PM

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oh yeah I forgot about that show, I know him from the first few seasons of the blacklist

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I am 3 episodes in and it is pretty good though, very good acting from everyone involved

amber sparrow Dec 16, 2024, 5:36 PM

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I started watching "the madness" a few days back. That was shaping up to be quite an interesting conspiracy type suspens/drama

amber sparrow Dec 16, 2024, 6:40 PM

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Kind of really like my desk without a mouse mat(removed it to wash it since it was waaaaaaay overdue with my beer spills)

full fern Dec 16, 2024, 6:46 PM

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That does look nice!

amber sparrow Dec 16, 2024, 6:58 PM

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Mouse feels real gooooood on naked desk too

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:03 PM

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https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-confirms-geforce-rtx-5090-with-32gb-gddr7-memory-5080-and-5070-series-listed-as-well

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i hate jensen

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i wanted a 24 gig 5080

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GoodNight

wary holly Dec 16, 2024, 9:03 PM

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"less than 600 watts"

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:04 PM

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well yeah most rumors have said its going to be 550-600

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oh and they downgraded the speed on the gpu ram

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its not gddr7

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:05 PM

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amber sparrow Mouse feels real gooooood on naked desk too

ill soon have that too with my 78 inch desk 😄

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i can just push all the stuff thats messy to the sides

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you will never know O_O

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:07 PM

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wary holly "less than 600 watts"

its going to use a 750 watt psu on its own

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thonk does that mean ill need a 1200 watt psu?

livid plover Dec 16, 2024, 9:13 PM

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marsh helm i wanted a 24 gig 5080

enough vram
nvidia

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:14 PM

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its max 16 unless you pay

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double the bit and faster gddr

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the 5090 is going to be 50%+ faster

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its going to start at $2k

wheat karma Dec 16, 2024, 9:16 PM

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Why does 5060ti have more ram than 5070 tho

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:16 PM

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they will market it for only pros

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the 4060 and 3060 did too

wheat karma Dec 16, 2024, 9:16 PM

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5060ti for pros? What kind, graphics design etc?

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:16 PM

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4060 has a 16gig version and the 3060 was 12gig

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yuh many unreal editors and game devs

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use the 3060 and 4060

wheat karma Dec 16, 2024, 9:17 PM

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I see

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:17 PM

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the 5060ti being higher vram will make it just a bit faster

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its just there to make the ppl who were buying the 4060

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for work

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to stop doing that

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....

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anyone here smart?

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https://wccftech.com/tsmc-details-its-high-end-2nm-process-revealing-performance-efficiency-improvements/

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heres another chart with numbers

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as you can see it goes up

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:19 PM

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5090… D?

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:19 PM

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just like the 4090d

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its a china only varient to be just under sanctions

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:20 PM

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oh I see

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:20 PM

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that china hackers got to run on the 4090 drivers within a week

terse helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:22 PM

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of course

marsh helm Dec 16, 2024, 9:22 PM

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next year will have MUCH stronger sanctions

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they were already warning nvidia about the 4090d

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i expect all gpus to be banned above a 4080 in ai compute

opal timber Dec 16, 2024, 10:01 PM

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I'm encountering a strange issue (I'm not trying to ask for troubleshooting/tech support, I just have one question.. more like a curiosity).

Whenever I go live on Twitch my Dota 2 game starts to have massive packet loss out (40-50%), at first I thought it was my ISP creating the issue but Twitch Inspector signals everything's fine on my end (no dropped frames, stream is smooth, in-game ping is fine), also other games are not affected by the same problem.. I can stream them without any packet loss (tested Valorant and Starcraft 2, and Counter Strike).

Can it be something related to the Dota servers? but it's really odd it happens only if I attempt to stream, off-stream the experience is smooth I get no packet loss at all 🤔

How can a game server/connection/routing thingy have issues ONLY if I stream? (this is the actual curiosity I got if anyone has a clue)

full fern Dec 16, 2024, 10:20 PM

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opal timber I'm encountering a strange issue (I'm not trying to ask for troubleshooting/tech...

!s This is definitely a support question.

wise bayBOT Dec 16, 2024, 10:20 PM

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opal timber I'm encountering a strange issue (I'm not trying to ask for troubleshooting/tech...

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carmine ibex Dec 17, 2024, 3:46 AM

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9800X3D has been in stock at Microcenter for like.. two full days now

void gale Dec 17, 2024, 5:51 AM

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i wish microcenter available in my region :(

smoky rapids Dec 17, 2024, 6:33 AM

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Got the 24H2 update and outside of uninstall/reinstalling explorer patcher to update it's worked fine so far beyond needing to reset my default output audio device.

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 8:27 AM

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I see w-s is at it again PepoPopcorn

karmic tiger Dec 17, 2024, 8:27 AM

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sshould have shut up I guess....

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 8:28 AM

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/pat

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You're doing good and you know that

karmic tiger Dec 17, 2024, 8:30 AM

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there's a sseparation between intent and effect and it cannot be discounted

silver fable Dec 17, 2024, 8:30 AM

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Not even with something like a coupon code? I do like discounts.

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 8:36 AM

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karmic tiger there's a sseparation between intent and effect and it cannot be discounted

Did you get sorted into slytherin

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 9:14 AM

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officially have been up for 24 hours and have to work in 4 hours :/

karmic tiger Dec 17, 2024, 9:14 AM

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ouch 🫂

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 9:20 AM

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time to get into gamer fuel

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 9:20 AM

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nah I need to get into ambien

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 9:21 AM

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I've started on occasion using melatonin

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 9:21 AM

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doesn't work for me sadly

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 9:21 AM

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though currently I'm doing a sleep schedule forward rotation

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I woke up yesterday at 10 in the evening

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and then I just keep going to bed later and later until it matches the day again

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it works but you have to really commit

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 9:26 AM

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I am on a "sleep 3-4 hours a night and then have a make up day once a week" schedule

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been doing that since ~2008

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 9:27 AM

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oof

livid plover Dec 17, 2024, 9:44 AM

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That's rough

copper pasture Dec 17, 2024, 10:25 AM

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I would be dead

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:23 PM

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https://in.ign.com/tech/221452/news/nvidia-teases-rtx-50-series-in-promotional-video-ahead-of-ces-2025-announcement-zotac-lists-rtx-5070

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anyone want to get a headache?

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 2:25 PM

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Yea zotac shit the bed on this seemingly ha

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:25 PM

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https://videocardz.com/newz/inno3d-teases-neural-rendering-and-advanced-dlss-for-geforce-rtx-50-gpus-at-ces-2025

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amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 2:25 PM

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Always gotta be one vendor that jumps the shark

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:25 PM

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they used the word Ai 14 times

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:26 PM

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can't wait to get a second-hand 4090 from some idiot who upgraded asap

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:26 PM

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the vram amount makes me soo damn said

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:26 PM

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terse helm can't wait to get a second-hand 4090 from some idiot who upgraded asap

ping me pleeease when u see prices drop

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i dont see any other option

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i dont need more performance

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:27 PM

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imo what they should do is make two versions of the 5090, with the same GPU chip but with half the memory

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:27 PM

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i need vram and rt performance

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:27 PM

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I don't need 32GB of VRAM ngl

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:27 PM

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for creating stuff in unreal and doing some other stuff

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24 is enough

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:28 PM

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I have 24GB now and I can count the amount of times I've used all of it on my fingers

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:28 PM

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yeah its enough but sadly we wont get it

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unles s u pay 2k+

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:28 PM

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16 would be easily enough for gaming

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:28 PM

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yep

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no game uses more or will use more because u run into other issues like RT

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:28 PM

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so make a 5090 (16GB) and a 5095 (32GB)

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:29 PM

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u made me spit out my drink

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:29 PM

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people doing weird shit that need 32GB of vram can get the more expensive one

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:29 PM

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its only ai

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as u can see

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:29 PM

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mostly yes

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not 100% but probably close

marsh helm Dec 17, 2024, 2:29 PM

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GoodNight

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and new dlss

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the 5060ti being 16gig could be interesting

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if it happens

opaque halo Dec 17, 2024, 2:48 PM

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🍿

sudden adder Dec 17, 2024, 2:48 PM

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🌭

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 2:56 PM

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I watched "wolfs" last night. Brad Pitt and George Clooney are fantastic together, but I found it "just ok"

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 3:55 PM

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brad pitt shouldn't have done Snatch cause it was all downhill from there don't @ me

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 4:07 PM

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You're drunk

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World War z was great
Bullet Train he was fantastic
Moneyball, incredible as Billy Bean
Oceans eleven
Mr & Mrs smith

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Burn after reading, his character was a blast

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Inglorious fucking bastards? You are gonna tell me that wasn't worthy?

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@terse helm

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 4:10 PM

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good but not Snatch level

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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You are delirious doggolul

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Snatch is one of my top 10 all time favorites, but he has had stellar performances post snatch

opaque halo Dec 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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Fury 🙂

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 4:11 PM

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Fury was INCREDIBLE

sudden adder Dec 17, 2024, 4:37 PM

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@amber sparrow dont forget Deadpool 2. Lol

open rune Dec 17, 2024, 4:53 PM

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surprised nobody mentioned Fight Club

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 4:54 PM

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open rune surprised nobody mentioned Fight Club

Was BEFORE snatch

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Fight club 1999
Snatch 2000

open rune Dec 17, 2024, 4:55 PM

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oh was the discussion about good movies he did after snatch

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 4:57 PM

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brad pitt shouldn't have done Snatch cause it was all downhill from there don't @ me

open rune Dec 17, 2024, 4:57 PM

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maybe fight club was his peak

terse helm Dec 17, 2024, 5:51 PM

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fight club was pretty good too yeah

silver fable Dec 17, 2024, 6:29 PM

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sudden adder <@536273029899091981> dont forget Deadpool 2. Lol

I dunno... Dude was practically invisible.

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 6:40 PM

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ye fight club is good

civic quarry Dec 17, 2024, 11:10 PM

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@amber sparrow finally started the penguin and wow, the first episode is amazing

amber sparrow Dec 17, 2024, 11:24 PM

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Yea. It certainly starts out pretty strong

outer jetty Dec 18, 2024, 12:56 AM

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civic quarry ye fight club is good

I don’t think we’re supposed to talk about that… lul

amber sparrow Dec 18, 2024, 12:58 AM

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full fern Dec 18, 2024, 1:14 AM

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Project Zomboid build 42 (unstable) is out! I'll be playing until the power goes out from this windstorm haha

open rune Dec 18, 2024, 1:32 AM

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multiplayer tho Peepo_Dead

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Wait did they un-cut multiplayer from B42

opaque halo Dec 18, 2024, 1:37 AM

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I'm just over here slinging paint on a dragon so I can get it to a friend so they can give it to a roommate for a Christmas present. Should be finished with it tomorrow. Now time to fire us MSFS 24 and speed run through some canyons.

full fern Dec 18, 2024, 2:08 AM

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open rune multiplayer tho <:Peepo_Dead:848909543231586365>

The very first basement I go into, I find this. LOL

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 2:12 AM

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I have plans regarding zomboid including a modded server some friends are playing on that I'm going to be the "I pillage you sort" guy

full fern Dec 18, 2024, 2:24 AM

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Sounds like fun! I haven't done any MP yet, but am keeping an eye out for a non-PVP server. I suck at combat LOL

open rune Dec 18, 2024, 2:27 AM

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Basements sound cool

full fern Dec 18, 2024, 2:29 AM

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I found a farm and petted a sheep too!

silver fable Dec 18, 2024, 2:29 AM

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hearty stirrup I have plans regarding zomboid including a modded server some friends are playin...

That's me in a nut shell. Loot gremlin.

open rune Dec 18, 2024, 2:30 AM

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Darktide is on sale, and I think in the Humble bundle staregryn

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 2:56 AM

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silver fable That's me in a nut shell. Loot gremlin.

we play with the trailers mod and I think one of the semi truck mods

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you haven't seen a project zomboid loot gremlin till you've seen one hauling 1300 encumbrance worth of loot home

full fern Dec 18, 2024, 2:57 AM

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I love it haha

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I use the RV interiors mod and turn box trucks into loot haulers with a bed

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 3:05 AM

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the 53' trailers with that mod have an interior too

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sometimes with crates already in them

full fern Dec 18, 2024, 3:05 AM

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It's awesome, but they're so hard to drive

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The hood always gets so damaged LOL

silver fable Dec 18, 2024, 3:08 AM

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open rune Darktide is on sale, and I think in the Humble bundle <:staregryn:10220850838443...

I still haven't played it, but have had it intalled since I bought it a couple months ago...

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 3:09 AM

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the immersive solar arrays mod demonstrates the kind of power system I'd set up IRL

open rune Dec 18, 2024, 3:09 AM

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full fern Dec 18, 2024, 3:14 AM

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hearty stirrup the immersive solar arrays mod demonstrates the kind of power system I'd set up ...

Been meaning to get that mod, thx for the reminder.

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 3:21 AM

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the battery bank is a generator for purposes of connecting lights and gas station pumps and such

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but it allows you to have it control a nearby regular generator for standby power

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I'd suggest keeping the two close together to keep their reach overlap optimal

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 3:51 AM

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one of the trailers in the trailers mod is a generator trailer too, although it's not capable of being a standby generator for the solar arrays, it's able to be placed close enough to pumps that you can refuel it direct from them while it's running (because the trailer has two tanks according to its logic and one of them is fillable while the generator is running)

full fern Dec 18, 2024, 4:04 AM

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Oh, nice!! Thanks so much. Planning my next b41 playthrough now haha

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 4:37 AM

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the "in between" tank is like 20L of gas too

hearty stirrup Dec 18, 2024, 5:02 AM

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and yeah, the ability to refuel it while it's powering the gas station you're refueling it from is handy

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worst case, you also have a nearby fuel tanker trailer for it

civic quarry Dec 18, 2024, 6:19 AM

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xmas_peepocoffee

knotty solstice Dec 18, 2024, 6:57 AM

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Guys, if this user msgs you, despite their profile bio linking to a YouTube account with a ton of subscribers, don't be fooled. Dude talked and sounded like an AI bot and was vaguely trying to promote himself into being your YouTube and Twitch coach. If you watch his actual youtube videos, he speaks a lot differently with his voice, than he does in text, which leads me to believe his discord is hacked, or something is up. Anyways, don't fall for it!

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knotty solstice Dec 18, 2024, 7:12 AM

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Dude just tried me as well lmao!!

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copper notch Dec 18, 2024, 7:50 AM

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marsh helm

Cool, another new technology (Neural Rendering) that the first generation will probably be useless, maybe a couple, AMD will ignore it and then be behind in a few years forever trying to catch up. 🙂 / 😦

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 7:50 AM

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im pretty sure its just more ai nonsense you can run on your pc

copper notch Dec 18, 2024, 7:53 AM

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They did speak about it previously saying that neural rendering would replace raytracing in the future as the primary rendering technology. There are demos online of some game experiments using it. I saw one of DOOM. It looked convoluted here and there of course, but all these AI technologies start out that way and then progress rapidly into usability within 1-3 years.

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So AMD should have it by 2032

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 7:53 AM

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theres 0 games or companies that will make use of it tho

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AAA game funding is horrible right now

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nobody knows how to make a good game

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it would take 10 years from now for a company to even use it a little bit

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thats how long a normal AAA game seems to be taking

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also wait now that your brought that up

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i think amd did mention something about that too

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https://gpuopen.com/learn/neural_supersampling_and_denoising_for_real-time_path_tracing/

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is it this?

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unless its cooked into DLSS

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or just makes RT use a ton less resources

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and create less noise

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i dont see game devs making full use of it

copper notch Dec 18, 2024, 8:29 AM

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marsh helm theres 0 games or companies that will make use of it tho

What I predict is that they'll take some ancient game like Quake or whatever again and make a version that uses it to show off the tech, but that if you tried to use it in a modern game it will be a total 5fps slideshow on a 5090, and 0.1fps on a 5060, and not support any older hardware. Then in 4-6 generations they'll have it working well across the stack, and AMD will have something comparable, and it will have been bought up over time by enough consumers that a game developer can feel confident enough people have it to sell their game. But probably it ends up being an enhancement tech rather than a mandatory replacement tech, as the latter wont be used for 10 years like you said. But if they can use existing tech and enhance it with something new, then some devs will opt into it if NVIDIA pays them enough money and does the work for them.

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You know, kinda like ray tracing. 🙂

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 8:31 AM

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yep 100%

copper notch Dec 18, 2024, 8:42 AM

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marsh helm is it this?

I don't think so, I think that is just FSR4 likely, or some other tech that works with RT.

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 8:42 AM

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well its all amd is talking about when it comes to neural

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 11:59 AM

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marsh helm nobody knows how to make a good game

Dont make a blanket statement like that. Plenty of good games by good devs out there. Klei (oxygen not included), Brace Yourself (Necrodancer), Machine (Indiana Jones), System Era (astroneer), IOI (hitman), etc

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:00 PM

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are those AAA?

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i feel they are more AA

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or less

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:01 PM

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Indie and Hitman id consider AAA grade

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:01 PM

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it wasnt really that good at all for a long time tho

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the first year of the first hitman game was really buggy

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but the current one is really good

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:01 PM

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I didnt think so, and i played it for the whole year of releases

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:02 PM

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i kept being seen in bushes

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and takedowns would teleport me to the other side of walls

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:02 PM

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never had those issues at all

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:03 PM

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im talking about the 2012 version

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oh god im old

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blobsweats

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:03 PM

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Ah, yeah, that one doesnt count. Im referring to the HITMAN trilogy that became World of Assassination

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:04 PM

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ooh that one i heard is really good

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its also on sale is it worth getting?

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:04 PM

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Yes, very much worth it

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:05 PM

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freelancer mode cost extra

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GoodNight

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the rest are above my limit of $20

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do i need freelancer mode?

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:06 PM

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The $3 one is basically Hitman 1 from 2017

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$28 is all 3 plus the community content plus the freelancer roguelike mode, plus the weekly and monthly Elusive Target modes

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Im betting if you get the $3 one and like it, the $28 one will get discounted a bit if you do decide to get it

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:08 PM

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blobsweats ill wait till i get my pc

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but ill wishlist it

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:08 PM

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Its actually really cool they offer the first game, technically, for $3

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:08 PM

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damn nvidia

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:08 PM

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And the steam winter sales havent started yet either, lol. I think thats tomorrow

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:08 PM

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oh theres MORE THINGS

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to TAKE MY MONEY?!?!

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i still havnt unboxed stuff from bf

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im playing elin currently

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im saving up for a trex pet

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:11 PM

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My 3060 12gb should be in today, hope its during my stream so i can swap out my gaming pcs 1660.

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:12 PM

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ooh nice nice

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for me to get the 4090 or whatever i need to be able to show i can at least make memes that ppl view

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or im not gonna buy it

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so im aiming for maaybe march

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:13 PM

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Then i gotta RMA my PowerColor RX 7600 and hopefully get one back that doesnt hard crash the PC it is in when it runs games

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:14 PM

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that sucks

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that the 7600 didnt work

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was it overheating?

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:15 PM

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Not overheating at all. Just hard crashes the PC when a game is running, almost at random.

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But its fine for normal pc use

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:15 PM

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thats very odd

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what did powercolor say?

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:16 PM

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also it wouldnt properly run Elden Ring or Armored Core 6. Chugged at a weird and laggy 58 fps that -felt- like 45.

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Havent gone thru the rma process yet, since i dont have another gpu for my linux pc until the 3060 is in and i can put the 1660’back into it

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:17 PM

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should start it asap

sudden adder Dec 18, 2024, 12:17 PM

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Had to swap those gpus (7600 and 1660) just so i could stream and game on my dual pc setup

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Ive still got about a year left on my warranty, and i am fine starting the process at the start of the new year so holiday madness can get out of the way

marsh helm Dec 18, 2024, 12:19 PM

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well they normally give you a few weeks to ship it once you start