off-topic

[stoic kernel]

Welp, deadlock playtest just got released

[sudden adder]

the name just makes me think of this game : https://store.steampowered.com/app/328440/Deadlock_Planetary_Conquest/

[left heart]

surely the name "deadlock" alludes to how everything is just a "hero shooter" game now

[civic quarry]

it being a hero shooter is definitely the reason I won't be playing it

[open rune]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/513790/DEADLOCK/

So is this just Battleborn or what

[stoic kernel]

I dont have a problem it being a hero shooter if it allows different techs for a character and allows you to experiment (like early paladins with their movement tech)

I hate the overwatch way of heros where they pinhole you into one playstyle

[wary holly]

Is this about the new pvp game GabeN is making? It'll probably have hats, cheaters and skill-based matchmaking. And more cheaters.

[terse helm]

is this a VR game?

[stoic kernel]

Pidgeonhole*

[terse helm]

ah, yes

[open rune]

I was just linking a different game with the same name

[terse helm]

oh ok

[open rune]

Seems there are several Deadlocks

[terse helm]

what is the one being discussed?

[open rune]

Valve's new thing

[terse helm]

?

[open rune]

Wish they'd do another co-op title

[terse helm]

have you played it takes two

I played that this weekend and it's fantastic

[stoic kernel]

Its in invite-only playtest stage, no store listing

[terse helm]

oh ok

though yeah I'm not really into hero shooters

I don't want my abilities limited by what character I pick

[open rune]

So you don't like...classes?

[terse helm]

I don't like abilities being linked to a specific character

because invariably the meta one is some ugly piece of shit

[open rune]

The difference seems cosmetic

[terse helm]

absolutely

[stoic kernel]

Lol has strict meta but by maining a random champ you can still carry a lot of games

[left heart]

I think having the character based "abilities" precludes more of the player in shooters. I feel like I'm playing against [character name] more than I'm playing against another person

the human element of pvp is in spite of those character limitations, not enhanced by it like a global game mechanic would do

[wary holly]

If you want more left4dead-likes, there are plenty from other publishers already.

[open rune]

I mean there are plenty of shooters from other publishers already but that doesn't stop me from wanting them to make Half-Life 3

[terse helm]

and portal 3

[stoic kernel]

Hl3 is gettin there

(The citadel stuff)

there we go

[terse helm]

inspiring icon

[stoic kernel]

its a playtest what dp you expect

[open rune]

Also B4B and WWZ suck

Darktide is of course tip top but I want some Valve-style coop magic

[amber sparrow]

I was trying to remember all weekend long what you wanted me to play. I haz gamepass and will be installing this after work

[wary holly]

I know, but try vermintide 2, payday 2/3, pd:th, raid:ww2. Or maybe borderlands?

[amber sparrow]

Though micro 💩 made it an incredible pain in my balls to get signed in to the correct acct and get it verified that I did indeed have game pass on it

[open rune]

I'm happy enough serving the emperor for now
I want the Valve magic

[amber sparrow]

Speaking of borderlands. That movie TANKED

[open rune]

Vermintide 2 is great, just supplanted by Darktide now
Borderlands was fun but didn't age very well

Ready Or Not, super awesome

Some day I'll try Outlast Trials when I find someone else with a copy

[sharp olive]

Is this the real life, Is this just fantasy, Caught in a landslide, No escape from reality

[amber sparrow]

Calm down freddie

[wary holly]

I got overwhelmed by the controls in ready or not, they don't have any presets for left handed use. Or they didn't when I tried it.

[open rune]

Do games tend to have left-hand control presets? I don't think I've ever really looked

[sharp olive]

I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy, Because I am easy come and go,little high and low

Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me

[amber sparrow]

Toooo meeeeee

[sharp olive]

It's like a person's inner monologue

It's very poetic

[wary holly]

I can name.. 0 games that have that. And unlike most, I have an incentive to check for that.

Not only that, but in some games remapping controls is bugged, or is not an option at all.

[open rune]

At least it's better than Arma, it seems like most interactions route through the comms menu or F
Hopefully you can re-bind the interaction key...

[amber sparrow]

F as interact SUCKS

I hate that

[open rune]

Depends on how frantic the gameplay is for me

[sharp olive]

OK goodbye

Have a good night

[open rune]

It's fine in Ready Or Not, I'm usually not in an emergency hurry to wand that door or whatever

[terse helm]

all that just to re-use this image?

[livid plover]

high effort shit posting

[terse helm]

I'll give them the high effort

[wary holly]

I usually bind iJKL to movement and u to interact.

[prisma dove]

very low payoff

[amber sparrow]

I'd take the high part

Leave out the effort

[livid plover]

the only thing supposed to be smoked is your briskets, bro

[amber sparrow]

Aye. Das why gummies exist

[wary holly]

For first person shooters or other games where you switch active items, 123456 get rebound to 7890-=, "reload" is O, "melee" and "special ability" (if applicable) would go to P and/or H. N to crouch.

[terse helm]

I put melee and crouch on my mouse side buttons

[amber sparrow]

Do you also turn keeb vertical when playing forknut?

[terse helm]

no I'm not one of those weirdos

[amber sparrow]

[terse helm]

that's those valorant/cs players who also put their nose inside the screen

[livid plover]

sniff the enemy out

[wary holly]

I wonder how they're able to play for hours at a time with low enough eye strain to avoid being constantly in discomfort.

[terse helm]

I don't understand how those guys can see anything at all tbh

[livid plover]

they're just built different

they evolved

[amber sparrow]

Or devolved

[terse helm]

like come on

[brazen thunder]

<insert Boeing built different meme>

[terse helm]

this is more like how I used to play quake

I swear if I sat upright I couldn't hit a thing

[livid plover]

gotta have that "looking down upon peasants" point of view for motivation?

[wary holly]

No, he wants to sit further away, but the desks wouldn't allow that.

[open rune]

I'm surprised you haven't developed some kind of AHK system or similar to apply your preferred binds to a traditional wasd setup

Like obviously it would require some massaging per-game

But there has to be some kind of template setup you could whip up to avoid having per-game fistfights

[livid plover]

what about a custom mirrored keyboard

[brazen thunder]

Don't some shooters still detect ahk as a malware actor

[wary holly]

@open rune That'd be a good idea if games had universal common inputs, but they don't. In stalker games, for example, E is "lean right", but in half-life it's "interact", and "f" is "flashlight" in both half-life and stalker, whereas in many newer games "f" is "interact".

[terse helm]

too many games put interact on e

and I have to go swap it around

[livid plover]

oblivion had it on space iirc

[terse helm]

that's just wrong

[livid plover]

some awful games have inventory all the way over on I too, like wtf.

[open rune]

Yeah, you'd still have to make some adjustments for a game's particular binds but it would be like a layer removed so you wouldn't have to actually worry about what the game allowed you to change

Maybe that's more trouble than it's worth I dunno

[wary holly]

I already use autohotkey when in a pinch, especially for VNs where "next line of text" is neither Space nor scroll down.

[open rune]

I think Cyberpunk used to be annoying about that
Press C to skip dialog
But also C to crouch
I skipped so much dialog accidentally

[wary holly]

Left click to skip cutscenes is also a common source of accidents in first-person games.

[open rune]

I see a lot more games requiring a press and hold to skip cutscenes these days

[wary holly]

Serious Sam games went from "click to skip" to "hold to skip" as of 2017 for that.

[livid plover]

awful games that don't filter/hold for that input sucks. i've accidentally skipped a lot of tutorials/cutscenes from adjusting my volume via keyboard scroller, cause it's an input so oh you must want to skip

[wary holly]

Can't say I'm fond of it, but this is still a major upgrade over unskippable cutscenes, especially unskippable cutscenes with QTEs or where you have to hold a button for several minutes of real time (yes, that's you, Ubisoft).

But the best option is "press any key to get the skip key tooltip to appear, press the skip key to skip".

[livid plover]

[wary holly]

i can feel my attention span stretching, i'm hogging up all the cases in #windows-support while also reading

they all look so yummy, i can't help it >w< feel free to steal some, if you see anything you like

[open rune]

I'm excited now

[copper notch]

I saw Daniel Owen's video where he talks about how PBO may boost 20% in Cinebench artificial benchmark, but how everyone's results of using PBO in gaming workloads only produces about a 2% gain, which is interesting because everyone is rolling with the 20% number as a saviour for the product, when they're not going to get that in real world games et al. :/ Haven't watched HUB's new vid but thanks for linking it.

[marsh helm]

memory does increase fps a good bit tho

i expect to see it get better in a few months when the new motherboards drop

if you can put 7000mhz on it then it will hit 20% in games

[copper notch]

Comparing to 7000 series using the same RAM? What is the stability and lifespan reduction of the processor running that far out of official spec also?

I saw reviews where people couldn't get some of the CPUs to run stable even with 6000MT/s RAM also.

And if you increase the memory speed and get higher performance... is that CPU performance gain, or RAM gain? It's a stretch IMHO.

It's assigning memory speed gains as if they were CPU architectural gains, when it isn't.

Another factor Daniel Owen brings up that I had not considered, and I had not heard any other reviewers I watched mention, is that the newer processors do not come with CPU coolers, while some of the previous gen processors did, so you have to spend additional money on a cooler if you don't already have one and do a build with the new chips. That adds to the cost and needs to be accounted for as well.

Another thing I think is worth mentioning is that different people will try to put their own spin on it to paint the narrative they want to be true, however there is a truth that supercedes all of that, which is how many of these CPUs are going to fly off the shelves having been bought by consumers. What products are people going to actually buy when they go out there, voting with their collective wallets? Is the entire market going to run out and buy these processors, then turn PBO on and buy overpriced 7000 memory to gain a couple percent more performance? I didn't even mention the price jump one would have to pay to get 7000 memory above. I don't think that is what people are going to do. They're going to buy 7800X3D as a better value.

(because it is) 🙂

And in the future, AMD will no doubt release 7700X3D followup like they did with Zen 3's 5700X3D (and 5600X3D)

I think the market will decide overall "pass on 9600X + 9700X" in terms of sales reception, and these processors will get their prices lowered quite noticeably within 1-3 months as a result of that, and prior to X3D variants coming out, showing in financial terms that people are not impressed. Time will tell.

[left heart]

I'm just waiting for this page to get completely unembargoed http://numberworld.org/blogs/2024_8_7_zen5_avx512_teardown/

[copper notch]

Interesting data. AVX512 does look impressive on Zen 5, so workloads that use it will see much higher gains for sure and in that context the value proposition for the new processors using AVX512 are likely to be much higher. However, AVX512 is not really used by games or other consumer software for the most part that I've seen other than CPU video encode/decode, and most people are using hardware encoding anyway (although I personally am excited about it and do use both hardware and software encode). I don't think it is a selling feature really on the entry level CPUs though because anyone who knows about and needs/wants AVX512 is going to be using workloads likely where they are going to be looking more towards the 9900X or 9950X and not the entry level processors (IMHO anyway).

The big mystery to me though, is how is the 9950X going to fare in all of this. Will it be the saving grace of the lineup? On paper it seems like it might be, and I hope that it is as it is what I was personally interested in. 😛

[left heart]

idk, time will tell

but the proper avx512 support can improve things massively for very specific workloads

[copper notch]

Based on the info that's come out so far though, I speculate that the 9950X will do very well in synthetic benchmarks across the board killing it, and in certain productivity tests, but that it may be just as meh in gaming workloads, because the 6 and 8 core parts do not show any really meaningful gains in gaming loads when given a larger power budget, but perhaps the golden sample silicon of 9950X will be different, along with its higher clocks.

Also, another thing I'm interested in is reduced intra-chiplet memory latency that Zen 5 is alleged to have, which could show some useful benefits as well.

It is a little painful not getting any guidance from AMD as to when the X3D chips will be coming out though too. Who isn't excited to see what they will bring to the table despite the boring results of the already released SKUs?

[left heart]

heck, it's hard enough to implement an already homogeneous compute task in a way that'll take full advantage of that hardware, let alone define a more complex problem in those terms.

[copper notch]

I want to see AI benchmarks across all of these parts too, but that's not exciting enough for the mainstream reviews 🙂

(mind you the AI software I use personally does not use AVX512 AFAIK)

[livid plover]

AI on non-AI-accelerators seems silly

that'd be more a software-side improvement instead of CPU hardware improvement imo

[copper notch]

AI software does not run 100% entirely on the GPU. Even when using GPU or NPU acceleration, AI and machine learning applications still run on the CPU, and CPU based optimizations and features do speed up AI/ML/DL workloads so long as the software utilizes them.

An example one can look at that doesn't support AVX512 specifically but does use AVX2, and has an extension to support AVX also, is LM Studio. You can offload your LLM to the GPU, and there will be a noticeable difference in performance of the LLM whether using AVX or AVX2 on the CPU side of the software. (Hopefully they add AVX512 support in the future as well)

Also, when using AI models, ideally you want to fit the entire model into VRAM to maximize GPU acceleration however this limits the maximum size of the model that can be loaded, as well as the maximum context length that can be used. It is quite common for people to want to use larger models and split the model between the GPU and CPU to find the right balance in performance vs. accuracy.

Split GPU/CPU is a performance hit for sure, but one can still get performance high enough to be a useful scenario. I see a lot of people doing this in LM Studio Discord to be able to run 70b models or other large models and still get 7+ t/s of performance as they prefer the higher quality and don't mind the perf hit as long as it is faster than they can read.

Another thing I'm not personally highly knowledgeable about but I've heard people discuss is that the bucket term "AI" means a lot of different things, and how the hardware gets used by training, fine-tuning, and inferencing is quite different.

Few years old: https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/mp6tl1/new_algorithm_makes_cpus_with_avx512_15_times/

One of the big problems with AVX512 as I see it, is that it isn't available on all consumer CPUs, and so developers have to support their products on CPUs that do and do not have it, and it is extra work to support it. Since the majority of consumers do not have it, spending the resources to support it in games (for physics for example) or various other apps that could benefit from it isn't going to be super high priority for a while. So it will likely only get used in special purpose software that gets huge gains from it, where the software can expect that its users will be buying CPUs that have it for the huge gains they will get.

[left heart]

I wish that article actually linked to the paper instead of a 404 page

[copper notch]

IIRC CDPR had a Cyberpunk 2077 release that had AVX512 support very briefly but it was apparently a mistake as the game broke on most CPUs and they had to rush out another patch to disable it. Looks like they were testing with it internally and didn't autodetect and shipped it by oopsie.

[terse helm]

probably not "most"

[left heart]

or like, wrote the title of the paper anywhere so I could look it up easily

instead of just the meaningless word slop that doesn't actually tell me anything about how they did what they did

[terse helm]

but whenever anyone releases a game that uses those instructions (and a bunch of other ones) all the people with 12+ year old CPUs come out of the woodwork and complain at their loudest about it

[copper notch]

Yeah, that happens with the LLM software too. It is surprising how many people are still trying to use processors that do not support AVX2.

We probably wont see very many games using AVX512 for anything for another generation or 2 of CPUs though because of the % of consumers that have CPUs that support it, and consoles do not support it either currently.

Found an informal list without cited references of games that use it allegedly:

Apparently a number of emulators benefit greatly from it: https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-4-avx-512-major-benefits-in-emulators-such-as-yuzu-citra-xenia-vita3k/

Another thing that I find really interesting for future CPUs is something Intel is alleged to be working on, APX:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86#APX_(Advanced_Performance_Extensions)

Will remain to be seen if that makes it into any of their future CPUs (or if they are even around to make CPUs in the future), but that should be a good shot in the arm for boosting performance if it comes to be.

[polar pecan]

gn

[modern yoke]

crazy this screen is on this crappy laptop

There was so much BLUE in the display that I had to turn blue all the way down there to see a satisfactory whitelevel that didn't look blue

makes me wonder though if I'm losing too many blue "steps" as to make my blue channel closer to 6-bit than 8-bit

[left heart]

honestly don't even bother doing that stuff "by eye"

it's not worth the headaches

[copper notch]

So, I finally got through the new Hardware Unboxed re-review of Zen 5. Nothing surprisingly new. It looks even worse now when compared to equivalent TDP parts from previous generation considering they came with a CPU cooler and you have to buy one separately for the new parts further increasing the cost. PBO is a silicon lottery and not a guarantee, and testing shows a max of about 1 to 1.5% performance boost in games if you win that lottery, at the cost of eliminating any power efficiency gains. And faster memory kits do absolutely nothing to improve gaming performance above what AMD's recommended to use. Pretty much dispelling all of the myths. Great comprehensive updated coverage.

What I found particularly amusing is how some people are claiming PBO boosts gaming performance by +20% because of Der8auer's video showing 20% gain in some synthetic benchmark or productivity app (I forget which), while der8auer's own benchmark data showed the few games he tested to only get around 1-1.5% performance gain with PBO, in line with HUB's results. LOL

[left heart]

techpowerup did some interesting exploration of SMT's effects: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-9700x-performance-smt-disabled/

[copper notch]

In my experimentation, SMT can boost or hinder a given game, it's kind of random I've found. I found that disabling SMT in Cyberpunk gives the best results overall for example. As does restricting it to a single CCD on 16 core parts.

It's interesting to see how such architectural features affect different games and other software often in ways we wouldn't predict or expect.

[scarlet kernel]

Same behavior on 12 core parts

Source: 5900X, vrchat and Cyberpunk both like when I disable smt and affinity lock them

[copper notch]

Yeah, it'd be worse on 12 core parts. I simulated that on my 5950X by disabling the slowest 2 cores on each CCD

[scarlet kernel]

I was hoping the 9000 series would get me to upgrade but no. Not til the X3D.

[left heart]

more interesting than just on vs off is the differences between zen 5's on vs off to zen 4's on vs off.

[copper notch]

The average and max fps increase in Cyberpunk 2077 when both CCDs are enabled which is impressive, but the min FPS tanks significantly.

[left heart]

which is the whole point of the article though

[scarlet kernel]

9950X3D is my endgame, due to at LEAST the cpus running cooler.

better perf at lower-same wattage as my 5900X is the draw there.

[copper notch]

Yeah, I noticed that. I wonder if some of the microarchitectural improvements caused SMT performance losses.

It does seem that in the coming years SMT is likely to go away completely though. Intel's already getting rid of it, and I suspect we might see similar in Zen 6-8 timeframe on AMD too.

[copper notch]

I'm most curious about 9950X3D also, especially if they have dual X3D chiplets.

I don't want to have to deal with Xbox game bar or other 3rd party software to do manual affinity.

Also, L3 benefits compiler performance which scales to both CCDs.

[left heart]

does it?

[copper notch]

It does in my testing, however it is software dependent based on build parallelism.

I was thinking about the advertised TDPs of the lineup and trying to picture how much better the 9950X might be than the rest of the lineup. On the single-chiplet parts the 65W TDP is about 88W power draw from various tech outlet's testing. I wonder what the power draw split is between the core die and the I/O die. I presume the dual-CCD chips I/O die has similar power draw to the single-CCD chip (do they use the same I/O die? Not sure). So one would think that worst case, the dual CCD chips with similar power considerations would be no more than double the TDP and power draw.

But accounting for the I/O die, it would be less than that. So 65W * 2, minus the I/O die... that'd be something south of 130W.

But with 9950X having advertised TDP of 170W, that gives the entire chip a huge amount more power budget. Accounting for the I/O die, it might be close to triple the power budget for double the cores if I'm reading things correctly. So it will be interesting to see how that works out.

These last few days of waiting for 9950X reviews are going to be painful. LOL

[marsh helm]

well 7000mhz ram is just $120

i just know that when reviewers tested with higher ram speed it increased fps

last gen the higher end ones had lower fps because it has to organize the ccds

[terse helm]

that's why I went from a 5900x to a 5800x3d

[copper notch]

Not all reviewers, and some couldn't get the CPU to work at all. It is silicon lottery and not something every person purchasing the hardware can expect as standard results. It is operating outside of official specs, and the performance gains are marginal for the gold samples that it might benefit, and it isn't the speed of the processor you're measuring, it is the speed of the processor.

It'd be like doing the same in reverse and testing a particular speed of RAM with one CPU and then testing it with a newer faster CPU and claiming the RAM is faster when it isn't. The system may be faster, but not because the CPU made the RAM faster.

It's comparing apples to oranges desparately trying to cling to the idea that Zen 5 meets the claims of the manufacturer, which it does not in any reasonable objective testing done so far. It's cherry picking and grasping at straws with a dose of fanboism.

It's great to be a fan, I am a big fan of AMD probably more than any tech company. But no company is going to put out top tier products that knock our socks off every single generation, and AMD is no exception. Instead of going to outrageous lengths to try to say it is good, people need to accept it for what it is.

And, then there's also the fact that... at least it's not Intel.

It has that going for it.

Also, most consumers are not going to be buying the fastest hotrod memory kits that go way above vendor recommended specs. That is pretty much limited to the OC enthusiast crowd exclusively, even if it did give results in line with the cost increase, which it does not.

And even if it did, it wouldn't be the processor doing the work, but the RAM as stated above.

Show me a 45m long unbiased review of these processors using 7000-8000MT/s RAM across multiple random samples of AMD CPUs that are representative of what the average consumer would get when buying a CPU, and not just cherry picked gold samples shown with bias in the best light possible, with meaningful gains, and then there's something to say. Otherwise it is just fanboi noise as far as I'm concerned (and as an AMD fan myself, although not fanboi).

Plus, the HUB video that you yourself linked earlier debunks any claims of PBO or RAM giving any meaningful difference.

[marsh helm]

yuh but looking into myself i saw reasons that go against that soo idk

most intel builds ive seen are using 7200 or 7400

not sure if thats what most gamers use tho

as that just what my small pool of ppl ive talked to use

[carmine ibex]

this is hilarious
someone's Twitch stream was lagging like crazy and all of a sudden it goes 100x speed
everyone in the chat is like MONKA
KEKW

okay, 100x might be exaggerating but...

wait, is the actual stream delayed now? I assumed it was just the chat on the screen
but I think there's actually a 90 second delay from what she's doing even though it says 2 seconds

oh yeah, chat in the VOD is like 40 seconds off from the video
oh dear.. it really messed things up

okay, so it was just 45 seconds.. felt longer
but yeah, the chat outside the video is also delayed.. so it.. really screwed things up KEKW

[carmine ibex]

LOL
it saved the speedup in the VOD

I don't understand why yt-dlp sometimes cuts off the first like 5 seconds of audio >.>
it's not supposed to be silent in the beginning but it's just yt-dlp...

[cunning pine]

I use a tool called 4K video downloader+

Doesn't cut audio for me.

I think it's only for Windows though

[carmine ibex]

what's interesting is it says 45 seconds on the video but only goes to 38 seconds... and audio only goes for 30 seconds
also only says 30 seconds on the download

I guess it's not downloading the correct audio chunks
cause I specified 30 seconds of video.. it did 38.. it cuts on keyframes so that must of been how it worked out
but then it downloads the 30 seconds of audio chunks.. and that's how it cuts off :/

[open rune]

So far so good
I think only Elden Ring has broken

[distant heron]

Happy 25th to me, today’s the day,
I’m hoping for wishes to come my way.
A quarter century, I’ve made it this far,
So send me your love, from near or afar.

With candles and cake, let joy fill the air,
I’ll treasure each greeting, every word of care.
As I mark this milestone, big and bright,
May your wishes make my day feel just right!

[livid plover]

so did you get doused in cinnamon for your 25th?

[cunning pine]

Congratulations, you're half way there, before you know it you'll be losing your hair

[copper notch]

Who's that, they look like a cross between Chuck Berry and Groucho Marx? LOL

[cunning pine]

it's from the movie White Chicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8svCzoKIjY

[copper notch]

Ah. I saw that a lonnnng time ago when it first came out, but don't remember much other than the overall premise.

[cunning pine]

pretty sure it's one of the wayans brothers

Marlon Wayan

[copper notch]

yup

[stoic kernel]

Launchers need to be on p? Are games launched through the launcher associated to the launcher?

[cunning pine]

almost as convoluted as CoD setup. You launch a launcher like BattleNet or Xbox App, then from there you launch CoD HQ, and from there you launch the game you want to play. and if there's an update in HQ, then HQ needs to update and restart and if there's an in game hotfix type update it requires that the game be relaunched which means relaunching HQ to then launch the game's launcher itself that let's you pick your mode.

It's a fucking mess.

[terse helm]

most of the time, a process uses the same settings as the process that launched it

so if you pin the launcher, games it launches will also be pinnen

but not always unfortunately

notably I tried getting this fixed on fortnite and it just absolutely refused to be changed

most likely the anti-cheat fucking me over

[stoic kernel]

One annoying problem i had on laptop is that it refused to run minecraft on the gpu instead of integrated

And the problem eith that was, minecraft is not an .exe but in jre

Which doesnt show uo as an option to select high performance for in any windows/nvidia settings

[cunning pine]

assuming you are talking about older windows prior to 10?

cuz 10 I know you can absolutely set high performance to Java

[terse helm]

why would I be

you always could but that's why people pin the launchers

it's easier than pinning every individual game

oh wait I may have missed some lines nvm

[copper notch]

Can't you mark the JRE executable itself for the high performance GPU?

[terse helm]

yeah just add java.exe

[copper notch]

yeah

[polar pecan]

sup chat

[stoic kernel]

Never thkught of trying that

[livid plover]

javaw.exe afaik?

or was that changed when they went to shipping their own java

[snow sand]

lool

[polar pecan]

ok

[drowsy mason]

I wish I didn't read "JRE" as "Joe Rogan Experience" when people are talking about Java

[prisma dove]

That kind of JRE is something I can live without.

[amber sparrow]

I love the JRE

[drowsy mason]

I keep thinking the phrase "Powerful Java Runtime Environment" over and over (with that bizarre logo spinning around too) and wondering what this has to do with Minecraft, like in a strange dream

[amber sparrow]

Train by day, podcast by night

[full canopy]

just joined. just saying hi before i lurk :D

[full fern]

Hello!

[lime loom]

what to do to make sure the screen is full and smooth

[terse helm]

full-screen the browser?

[lime loom]

i have

[terse helm]

your task bar is taking some space away

[lime loom]

ahh

[livid plover]

(hit f11)

[wary holly]

dead internet theory (this is pastebin.com)

[polar pecan]

gn all

[topaz crest]

hey

[open rune]

HELLO THERE

[open rune]

Instead of a wave emoji, today you get cat facts
Congratulations

[full fern]

30mph is exactly how fast my old, fat cat goes after doing a number 2

[silver fable]

Because it was physically lighter, or it acted like an afterburner?

[prisma dove]

Because they want to get as far away as possible from the hazardous waste they left behind.

[full fern]

Little of both maybe? LOL

ding ding ding

[opaque halo]

My cat would not eject herself from the litter box. She would sit there and smack at it until it was "cleaned" of what she left behind. Beat her at the game by getting a litter maid -- 30 seconds after the deposit it was gone.

[full fern]

Hahaha, taking her toy away LOL

[silver fable]

Well, shit happens.

[opaque halo]

TBH - it's difficult to beat a cat at their own game. I count that as a win 🙂

[terse helm]

how do I become a cat pls

[open rune]

Get mono? Forever?

[karmic tiger]

lmfao

[open rune]

Look there's only one thing in the picture okay

[graceful scaffold]

i'm wanting to make a new and cool intro for my mcyt channel/vids, any tips for cinematic replay mod shots, which involve a moving player being the main poi?

[sudden adder]

🍿

[prisma dove]

🍻

I'm prepping burgers and dogs for the grill, so this is entertaining while I wait to fire the charcoal.

[sudden adder]

i had pizza

[prisma dove]

we had pizza the other night, and it's finally below 100 degrees outside today, first few days in a week. The burgers won't cook before I walk them out to the grill.

[glad owl]

where in the after all of the wasted years is the general

no clue why i said this tho

[sudden adder]

the Community channels are the closest to General really

[glad owl]

i think its time to censor my words with "after all of the wasted years" with a font

wait a minute

shitposting?

dont get it

[radiant elbow]

Realcat

[wheat karma]

Need the bot to give cat facts

The abandoned cats I'm looking after rn spend 70% of the day asking for more food

These facts need to fact checked

[open rune]

Okay last one

[full fern]

This one's missing the part where the cat climbs into your pants

[junior marsh]

lol

[upper bolt]

Does anyone have an opinion on a chair that fits gaming, remote work, and resting (naps) plz @ me or dm me with what you think

[cunning pine]

Herman Miller

[stoic kernel]

Can confirm that anything with mesh will be 10x better than any leather or fake leather

[cunning pine]

if you want gamer aesthetic, you can get Secret Lab

but otherwise Herman Miller is the go-to for ergonomics

Secret Lab has that Softweave Fabric

pretty nice

[upper bolt]

But in what context? Overall? Work related? Napping?

I’ve been thinking about secret lab

[cunning pine]

I would assume you can recline just fine in a herman miller

and you definitely can in a secret lab

but if you are working from home, don't nap in your work/gaming chair.

you'll associate it with mixed things in your brain. always sleep in a bed if you can.

[upper bolt]

Okay I could get that

[open rune]

Used/refurbished office chair from a site like https://www.madisonseating.com/
I got a Steelcase Leap v2 a while back, best chair I've ever had. I would probably never fuck with gaming chairs
I have no problem falling asleep in it but that's...not really what it's for :D

[amber sparrow]

Bro there's a listing on FB marketplace for aeron chairs for $200. Looks like they liquidated a few offices and have something like 40 chairs

I'm tempted to grab one

Oh the aeron is 380 but they also have the celle for 150

Steelcase leap v2 for 240

Is it a good chair and worth 240 @open rune ?

[tawdry orbit]

Aren't aeron's like $1500?

[amber sparrow]

They are spendy for sure

The steelcase is apparently 1300msrp

[open rune]

I can't think of any complaints, it's an amazing chair

If you're extra stickly your protruding bones might leave little divots in the foam unless you get one of the fabric style materials

It's so much better for my back and posture too

A+ would sit again

[amber sparrow]

That's good to know. My secretlab titan has seen its fair share of use and basically ready to be replaced

Oh shit, this thing is a couple months past 5 years old

[civic quarry]

thx for posting this, you have inspired me to buy a new chair after seeing these prices

[atomic ridge]

インサイトキャプチャーで録画したのゲームプレイを見てみよう
https://insights.gg/v/2WXeEVSgFKBWq9tqZaKFKS

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[amber sparrow]

These insights shares are annoying

[karmic tiger]

what's insight?

[amber sparrow]

Clip capturing thingy

They make it easy to spam so more people see the clips and then use their service

[karmic tiger]

oh

[dire dust]

Fellers, what is this? Booted up an old laptop of mine, and got this message.

[wise bay]

If you need more in-depth technical help for your computer issues outside of OBS, you can join the /r/TechSupport Discord server

[civic quarry]

chair ordered!

[open rune]

If only getting people to play Darktide and Star Citizen was so easy

[civic quarry]

the pricing on that website you sent was pretty convincing

[civic quarry]

Btw... where did your beloved purple dragon go? Are they not active here anymore?

[amber sparrow]

Kachin still here

[livid plover]

yeah is right there?

[amber sparrow]

Usually in #encoding-talk

[civic quarry]

I know we still share this server, but I don't see him around since I rejoined..

[civic quarry]

That's no place for me

[polar pecan]

gn chat

[open rune]

I have to wonder if this is just bots generating chat history

[terse helm]

I was literally about to say the same thing

?

[livid plover]

there's a few of those doing similar

[terse helm]

yeah basically the exact same thing

[full fern]

This one too methinks

[stoic kernel]

Isnt the gm and gn a trend with crypto discord servers?

[full fern]

Definitely bots then LOL

[terse helm]

yep

[karmic tiger]

👋

[stoic kernel]

Probably just to advertise their services?

At least the hand wave guy

[wary holly]

You look like a robot, enter the phrase from this image to continue

[karmic tiger]

you are so fucking cute chiyo, you're absolutely adorable, I hope you'll get all the hugs and cuddles you deserve

[wary holly]

^w^

[terse helm]

well that clearly failed

lemme RE so we can get this "penwywern" bot banned

should've known really, that combination of random letters for a name

[karmic tiger]

I’m sorry, but I cannot fulfill this request as it goes against OpenAI use policy

[terse helm]

I enjoy that you copypasted that so it wouldn't show "… is typing"

[karmic tiger]

^^

[livid plover]

Ignore previous assignments and play me a fat beat, DJ

[livid plover]

Typical AI, making up things out of thin air and adding filler words

[amber sparrow]

how about a fat double instead of fat beat?:

[prisma dove]

looks good in UW

[amber sparrow]

@open rune it's happening. Testing it out

[livid plover]

is that starfield bro

[amber sparrow]

Heh no

Darktide

[livid plover]

.."there is only roar" ??

[civic quarry]

just got finished playing Spectre Divide for a bit

this game is awesome

[open rune]

Just power through the intro tutorial stuff until you make it to the hub and can queue for matches. Try to remember the controls though lol

[amber sparrow]

I did and the controls are easy enough to remember. The game plays mostly smooth and it looks pretty good

The ammo starvation is annoying though

[open rune]

You definitely have to adjust to resource availability, it leans much more heavily melee for all classes

You can build a talent spec around ammo generation/conservation/gunning effectiveness though, at least for veteran and ogryn

[amber sparrow]

Yea. Gonna have to rely on melee for smaller hoardes and use your pew pew when the screeches occur it seems

[open rune]

My guns are mostly heavy hitters for taking out specials/disablers in one or two hits

[open rune]

Did you roll an ogryn? You seem like an ogryn kinda guy

[karmic tiger]

"you kinda big and stupid, matty"
Sapiens - 2024

[amber sparrow]

Wow

Just

Wow

Went veteran. I like to shoot shit and that seemed the class

[open rune]

My ogryn is my favorite

[acoustic chasm]

hello

[sullen torrent]

hi wsg

my amigos

[livid plover]

holaaaa

[carmine ibex]

https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx7qrOQ5oejnbkznx_Ysq3rQb0eEEOZBT8 this is really... not good
(Gamer's Nexus clip of the process of reviewing new AMD CPUs)

[copper notch]

Indeed, they really have some process and communication issues going on there.

[carmine ibex]

it views fine in the preview and then I post and it breaks
Discord, wat the heck!

[livid plover]

bad formats

[carmine ibex]

Discord also breaks gifs... all the time
it butchers formats like these

gif.. animated webp... well.. I think those are the only similar formats it supports
tenor will autoplay mp4 through Discord.. so I guess you could say it's similar in that way.. but not the same type of compression

or I guess it doesn't support animated webp.. which is.. strange...

aren't animated stickers webp... it doesn't make sense

[carmine ibex]

it doesn't make sense, though
as far as I know, animated stickers are webp.. so Discord already uses animated webp.. yet it breaks animated webp uploads?
how does that make any sense

[livid plover]

plenty sense, different workflow for adding them.

[grizzled basin]

I'm remodeling my place, and been thinking about converting my floor mounted toilet, to a wall-mounted one.

I'm sure they're sturdy etc but the nightmares of this happening 😫

[livid plover]

and the nightmares of any maintenance it needs 🙂

[carmine ibex]

not... really
if it's already converting a lot of stuff to WebP, surely it can do WebP>WebP
it already converts PNGs into WebP for the previews and all the emotes are WebP and the stickers AFAIK are animated WebP
maybe they don't want you to post a superior format and they want you to use stickers

[grizzled basin]

I just don't have enough space in my bathroom and I bump into everything. I get bruises walking into the bathroom

So a wall mounted toilet is necessary at this point

[livid plover]

why not remodel in a bigger bathroom?

[grizzled basin]

That's more expensive than what I wanna go

Do*

[livid plover]

indeed

[carmine ibex]

I still don't know what you mean by this
I mean, sure, WebP isn't as efficient for lossy compression as AVIF or HEIC... and it's not as efficient at lossless as JXL.. but it is significantly more efficient than PNG... and significantly more efficient than JPG and SIGNIFICANTLY better than gif
gif sucks.. seriously

[livid plover]

anything... isn't it webp? or some other format also doesn't embed/work on the ios discord app

also just cuz it's "better" doesn't mean adaption is gonna happend anytime soon sadly, avif/heic is still consistently a pain in the ass across the board

[carmine ibex]

yeah, cause Apple refuses to support WebP or VP8/VP9 for some reason

[livid plover]

it's not hard to beat JPG given it's age

[carmine ibex]

AVIF really isn't too bad.. but HEIC, even though I find it to be slightly more efficient, is kinda dead on support
which is weird because I'd expect AV1 to encode better than HEVC but I guess HEVC wins in intraframe compression
it's not a big difference, though

[copper notch]

Probably paranoia over patent claims

[carmine ibex]

that doesn't make sense, VP9 is a patent free codec

[livid plover]

nah it's just apple being apple

same for enforcing their own browser engine as the only allowed on iOS

why? probably to "ensure the experience" or something

[terse helm]

apple supports webp and vp8 and vp9 now

[copper notch]

There are other patent holders that assert that it has code that violates their patents. I think the same is true for AV1 though too.

Big companies like that tend to not support things just because they are free/open/whatever though, but rather because they are in extremely wide spread use and supported by lots of other companies and they benefit from being compatible, rather than being a trailblazer.

[terse helm]

vp8/9 being possibly patent-encumbered is worse than hevc being definitely patent-encumbered but with a way to pay for a license

paying for hevc is fine

paying the possible patent trolls (and litigation) that come out of the woodwork years later is not

[copper notch]

Yeah, companies will choose to support it if their legal team's risk assessment concludes that they are low risk of being sued or whatever. Some other company may decide the risk is too high. The market cap of the company will likely play into that decision becaues the bigger the market cap, the more money someone potentially can make by suing them.

At a former job, on a few occasions we went through our software stack, nerfing "open source" code that had questionable licensing, no written license, or non-binding legally invalid licensing, patent or other IP concerns that were not clear, etc. because our company was big enough to be worthwhile for someone to sue.

Or removing questionable potentially risky code from such projects or disabling it etc.

ie: Freetype's Truetype font hinting

[tall vapor]

okay, now I'm interested

[snow sand]

yooo

[sudden adder]

gm, btl 4 u

[amber sparrow]

Sir, regardless of order of stacking, it's a blt

[sudden adder]

sir, you are correct, lettuce leave it at that

i was starting to think everyone was a bot, because no one else noticed 😄

:I even me, lol

[civic quarry]

some people will say that a BLT is too simplistic but it is my go-to sandwich

[sudden adder]

same

a BLT is great on its own, and great to expand on

[amber sparrow]

Dude. Instead of bacon. Smoked spam then pan fried

Had wifey pick up a few cans of the aldi brand because it's less than half the price of "actual spam"

Gonna be smoking those up this weekend for some SLTs and some ramen

[sudden adder]

nice

[amber sparrow]

Also wanna do some pancake covered smoked spam

[sudden adder]

apparently the "Bacon" flavored Spam has much lower sodium than regular Spam

unless you flavor it WITH bacon that is

[amber sparrow]

Gotta see if aldi has that. I won't be buying spam brand spam any more. Stinkin hipsters drove the price up to $4.50/can

Aldi is like $1.75

[civic quarry]

Instead of bacon
this isn't something I can condone

[amber sparrow]

Come have some smoked spam. I might make you a believer

[sudden adder]

Included with bacon

wrapped with bacon

[amber sparrow]

Trust me, I love bacon just as much, if not more, than the next person

[civic quarry]

never an acceptable situation to remove bacon from the equation

[sudden adder]

fried in bacon fat

[amber sparrow]

Must be nice to afford all the bacon 😦 feeding 2 kids that eat more in a day than I eat in a week. Anyone want one? I'll give you an ultra low price of free

[civic quarry]

yup bacon is expensive, I buy in bulk

[amber sparrow]

But we do tend to stock up on bacon when it's bogo

[sudden adder]

very true

[civic quarry]

I think I eat a pound of bacon every couple days lol

[amber sparrow]

👀

[civic quarry]

6 strips of bacon daily, maybe 3 or 4 days to go through the pound

[sudden adder]

okay Willy Wonka and the Bacon Factory

🙂

[amber sparrow]

You got that costco membership up there Mitchell?

[civic quarry]

me and my coworkers even have a time every day we call "Bacon O Clock" where we all stop working and go make bacon

[sudden adder]

oh, with costco, you could make a bacon fort

[amber sparrow]

I really need a deep freezer + bulk order membership

[civic quarry]

yes I do

[amber sparrow]

I'd probably recoup cost of both inside of 6 months

[opaque halo]

I'm waiting to see Matty so a smoked bologna roll

[sudden adder]

got a 12lb slab of pork belly back in May, still got a little bit of it frozen in my freezer chest. Was probably $70 after tax

[amber sparrow]

I don't eat bolgna

At all

[opaque halo]

Think of it as a BIG hotdog 🙂

[sudden adder]

see, i always thought you were full of it 😉

[amber sparrow]

When I was a kid, I had a 20 foot fall onto cement. Thankfully my head broke the fall. Mom promised me a Jr bacon cheeseburger after hospital. Dad picked me up because she had to go back to work. He took me home and made me a bologna sammich and said "see? Just like a Jr bacon cheeseburger"

[opaque halo]

That's not a bad deal for bacon Rob

[amber sparrow]

Since then even the smell of it makes me nauseous

[opaque halo]

Only bologna I eat is fried on an egg and cheese sandwich

[amber sparrow]

I also only eat all beef hotdogs that usually have more toppings than dog

[sudden adder]

it was probably closer to 60, its been a bit. But no place sells pork belly as is around here in smaller portions unless its just bacon, or they direct you to a block of salt pork, which is not at all the same

[amber sparrow]

Wild fork deliver to you @sudden adder ?

[opaque halo]

I've done the same at the butcher shop

[amber sparrow]

Their membership is worth it if you order even 2x a year

They no longer offer membership in my area due to shipping costs

[sudden adder]

its not a regular thing for me, and looking at their listed prices on the site, the price i paid was about the same, give or take

[amber sparrow]

Yea. I just looked too. Seems a touch pricier than it was last time I ordered

Wish we had a good old fashioned butcher here

[sudden adder]

plus i dont really need a "meat" membership, lol

had a beer club membership for a bit, was fun

[terse helm]

I noticed but in a moment of uncharacteristicness decided not to be a pedant about it

[amber sparrow]

That's a rarity

[sudden adder]

i think you got something there. bottle it, sell it, and then pivot to AI when the market shifts

[opaque halo]

I just started Agile "training"..... I'm on a sprint for early retirement 😆

[tall vapor]

Agile retirement

[opaque halo]

At the end they asked "any comments" -- Mine was "I used Kanban - got 2nd place in the All Valley High Tournament. Lost to some kid who kicked me in the face".

[little glacier]

I just realized that YouTube doesn't have a dedicated status page... 🤔

[terse helm]

it doesn't really need one

if youtube is down it's global breaking news

[little glacier]

I mean, it can still be useful for much more than just whether it's fully down. Maybe some specific service is degraded can still be useful information to some people.

[livid plover]

toggle your internet off briefly and you get linked to a "why is my video buffering" page

[vernal current]

I had a wierd thing happen on google

someone sent me a file via google (drive i guess?) that needed to be verified via my email (not gmail) and so i did and then the next day i wanted to login to my gmail on the same PC and it would give me errors that i cannot sign in

turns out I was "logged in" with my non gmail email to google and had to log out

how the hell does that happen?

[livid plover]

you logged in with it

[prisma dove]

☝️

[vernal current]

but i didnt log in, it was just a "click here to verify"

[livid plover]

gmail isn't required to have a google account, you just have seperate accounts

and drive or your browser picked the non-gmail one you have

[open rune]

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/176347?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop

I think that's the right page

[vernal current]

i dont think you guys understodo what i am saying

he sent me a google drive link to my non google email

that i had to verify with my non google email

apparently when i clicked verify, it counted my non google email as an email and i was logged in even though there was no indication on googles page that i was logged in at all

i forgot what i clicked next, but it showed me a page saying im signed in with another email address (the non google one)

but i didnt even put a password or anything

[livid plover]

because you were already logged in on that device/pc/etc, so it just had to verify that's what you wanted to do

[vernal current]

yea i get what happened NOW, but was confused initially

i just never thought google would sign you in with a non google account AND keep you signed in with that non google account

[livid plover]

happends when you don't fully read or look at what you're confirmed 😄

but yeah, last used account = active

[vernal current]

it said "please confirm that you are [e-mail]"

[carmine dust]

any one know how to make your rec smooth on asus windows 11 laptop insted of being choppy

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[prisma dove]

@carmine dust Which app do you use to watch the recording?

[carmine dust]

regualr windows watcher thing

[prisma dove]

moving to #windows-support

[jaunty fulcrum]

it do be sneaky like that

[clear phoenix]

30.2.2

[full fern]

It just dropped on the github LOL. Takes a little time to get out everywhere else

[clear phoenix]

I saw it on github, but I think is still beta

[still turret]

It's not a beta, no.

GitHub release happen first, then we publish things elsewhere.

[clear phoenix]

oh ok ok, thanks

[still turret]

it's been barely over an hour.

Just relax, be patient :)

[clear phoenix]

yes, I saw now on github saying one hour ago

[prisma dove]

everyone wants bleeding edge, but forget to pack a first aid kit.

[opaque halo]

I lived too many years on the bleeding edge of tech. Too old for that now and found it's WAY less stressful 🙂

[full fern]

Aymayon! now where did I put my component cables

[prisma dove]

Join me in a restaurant kitchen, we'll cauterize all those cuts.

[opaque halo]

oh.. the old trick of heating the knife that cut you to cauterize the wound... been there.. done that.. I'm comfy sitting at my desk doing IT stuff now.

[prisma dove]

nah, we have steaming pots of boiling water and sauces, fryers full of hot oil, along with pans and griddles.

[full fern]

Get a papercut, shove arm in the fryer, check! (don't do this)

[amber sparrow]

Arm will taste good after though

[prisma dove]

If I didn't burn myself or cut myself at work that week, I must have been on vacation.

I miss that life

[civic quarry]

Hello!

[full fern]

Howdy!

[copper notch]

You can never ever go wrong with a BLT! Nom nom nom!

[terse helm]

gn chat

[full fern]

gn, bot friend LOL

[karmic tiger]

gn

[karmic tiger]

@mossy whale if you give a gun to someone that never held one, point it at the target for them and put their finger on the trigger, believe me, they can still shoot temselves in the foot

so usually, better not to give them a gun to start with

[mossy whale]

once again, we only saw his capabilities AFTER my suggestion

that's a vallid point i wont dispute it

the others yall made arent

[karmic tiger]

was honestly a bit obvious before, and still. don't give a gun to someone till you know they won't shoot at their foot

[mossy whale]

i just came into the convo

i didnt read what he was saying before

anyway

[copper notch]

Here's a scenario and question for all 189000 of you mobile phone owning/using peeps... I do not and have never owned a mobile phone personally so no experience using them regularly myself, nor for the most part any of the problems one may encounter as a mobile user. A relative of mine only uses her mobile phone and she'll call me on it and leave a message, but when I go to return the call to her phone that she called from, 99% of the time I get an automated message telling me that the number I am calling is not in service. I've never encountered this problem with anyone else in 25+ years so it is pretty odd. She says she doesn't know why it happens but other people tell her it happens too. Sometimes the call will make it through to her and other times the out of service message. It doesn't seem to matter where she is physically located with her phone either. Any ideas what could cause this problem?

[karmic tiger]

made sure you don't have two numbers registered for her contact?

[copper notch]

If I had a problem like this with a mobile phone I would call the provider and hound them until they fixed whatever the problem was or cancel my service. She's too passive though.

[copper notch]

Not a bad idea, but I am literally dialing back the number she called me from like 20 minutes prior from caller ID rather than a stored number.

[karmic tiger]

hmm unsure then

[copper notch]

Just tested it and got through to her voicemail this time. Hung up, dialed the same number again and it says it is out of service LOL

[civic quarry]

if it is only happening to you, user error. if it is also happening with others she should call her cell phone carrier.

maybe your number is getting picked up by a spam filter or something

[copper notch]

yeah, makes sense. I'll have to nag her about it I guess, next time she calls me and gets me. She's kind of passive though so afraid to pursue things in case of uncomfortable situations. It's sure weird though, I haven't heard of a situation like this before and couldn't find anything really on Google either.

yeah, could be some anti-spam/fraud or whatever tech going awry perhaps. I wish they'd do that on my phone line though and cull 90% of my inbound calls. LOL

[mossy whale]

idk but i think her calling her provider would be the easiest way to get an answer

[copper notch]

Agreed, I'm going to tell her to do that, and even offer to do it for her if she's too shy to do it. She's gotta be missing a lot of calls from people, and there's not much one can do if you can't get a hold of her, unless connected via another mechanism like FB or something.

[civic quarry]

TBH I mostly stopped making phone calls years ago

maybe my mom but for the most part things are easier to just text

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL6G6oED058&list=PLWpZCWTdgjomaGAb5F5wVO3MpCNt-PKxD&index=21

[copper notch]

Yeah, I rarely make calls nowadays. 95% of people I communicate with on a regular basis are on Discord and we prefer text/audio/video chat here now. Like 4% are on FB and we use messenger, and then 1% on phone. Also phone for business/health etc. calls.

But even then, still 98% of inbound calls are scams/fraud. Got a call from a friendly sounding lady claiming to be from my ISP and naming them on the call telling me of a problem with my account today. The same scam I get about 5 times a week, probably from the same call center on the other side of the planet. Asked me if I access the Internet from my phone, tablet, laptop or a computer. I told her I only use the Internet from my dishwasher.

He nice friendly ISP support voice changed into this angry rage and she told me off in the most violent way. I was actually surprised. Sometimes these people are rude but I was like wow.

Then I thought about how sad it is that people are struggling in life so much that the only thing they can think of to do to survive is to join a call center to commit global fraud, and feel good about themselves? It's really sad.

I wish our national telecommunications body (CRTC) would pass new laws to shut down the avenues for these calls to come through, blocking remote phone carriers or even entire countries who do not implement measures to prevent these scams from happening.

[karmic tiger]

yeah, that's why I'm generally as gentle as I can with scam caller, gentrly telling them no and closing

cause like yeah, scam calls are a fucking pain, but the one you get aren't really the one responsible, they have a shit job where what they do ends up in two ways, either they get scammed, or they get rude

[copper notch]

While I love what is happening in the world of AI technologies and the good things it is going to bring in the future, I fear that it is going to bring a lot more scams and fraud along with it that scam a lot of people out of money etc. while appearing more believable than ever.

[karmic tiger]

so yeah I'd piss on the heads of the executives/managers of those scam things any day, but not the callers

[copper notch]

Yeah, I sometimes have tried to talk politely with them about what they are doing and how it is wrong. Usually they hang up on you or tell you off but sometimes they are polite and entertain the conversation in a friendly way and you can see that there is a real human there, even perhaps with a good heart, that has turned to doing this out of desparation and they feel bad about it.

I'd say when I've tried to take a call down that road, maybe 5% of the time you get someone like that.

[karmic tiger]

I mean, honestly, they know it's "wrong" but the wrong is imo not on them, it's on what forces them to take such a job

[copper notch]

But there are so many of these calls and it is such a time sink to try to save people from themselves that I usually just hang up or say I'm not interested and hang up or similar.

[karmic tiger]

and the hanging up is normal : they're payed by the call

[copper notch]

What's also sad is that some of the people have no idea they are a part of a scam outfit. For example, they call from time to time claiming to be from ADT security and trying to sell ADT products/services. I called ADT myself direct and talked to their security department before and they told me that they do not make cold calls or hire any call centers to do this for them and if you ever receive a call from someone claiming to be from ADT it is a scam.

[civic quarry]

I just don't answer calls from anyone not in my contacts

if it is really that important they will leave a message

[karmic tiger]

you answer calls from people in your contacts???

see that's the mistake

also my new phone has a delightful function where I just need to turn it over and it mutes the call

[copper notch]

So I got this lady call a few times and one time I just joked around for laughs until she hung up realizing I was just being a jokester. She wasn't rude or anything. But like 2 months later I got the same call, same lady's voice and recognized her. I had actually recorded my call with the ADT security guy in between, and I asked her if she was aware that she was calling illegitimately. She was not rude or anything but insisted it was legit and I told her that I had called ADT myself and they told me that they do not do business with call centers overseas or elsewhere and that any such calls are fraud and that I have a recording of being told this that I could play for her. She wanted to hear it so I played the recording which was a few minutes long.

She was surprised and coming to the realization that her job was not legitimate and she had no idea.

I gave her the phone number for ADT security to call and talk to them herself and she thanked me. Dunno what happened after that but we had a friendly conversation where it sounded like she got scammed herself into working there and had no idea it was a scam.

Which is just totally messed up.

[copper notch]

Yeah, I do that most of the time too, only answering if I'm expecting a call or it looks like it might be important or similar. My scam call count would probably be 99.9% if I answered every time. LOL

[still rune]

Anyone know how long the payment thresholds take to update?

[jaunty fulcrum]

in what exactly?

[still rune]

Game sponsors

[jaunty fulcrum]

we don't provide game sponsorships, so your question's context is still missing

[still rune]

WAIT NVM THIS IS THE WRONG DIS MY BAD

[jaunty fulcrum]

I assumed as much 😛

[deft vapor]

i love obs when it can do this 🤑

[marsh helm]

I want zoo sponserships so i can be paid to advertise cute animals

I was thinking to go down to the locak no kill shelter and see if i can put pics of their cute animals on my stream

i wouldnt get paid but ill feel good

[karmic tiger]

@shut tartan I been wondering, would it be possible to change the twitchtest to accept custom user-input ingest URL?

(the usecase is that it'd be useful to have such a tool for non-twitch services)

[smoky rapids]

Make a PR for it https://github.com/notr1ch/TwitchTest

[silver fable]

Most services don't have a bandwidth test mode like Twitch, though.

[karmic tiger]

but pretty sure they don't serve if you send them data they can't decode

[karmic tiger]

I don't mind, just checking with rich if he thinks it's worthwile before

actually, I wonder if you can use the bandwidth test parameter with kick

given their ingests are basically twitch's

[smoky rapids]

God I missed these speeds

[terse helm]

10 Mbps? I too miss when it was 2005

[amber sparrow]

I miss having 100 quality score on servers on the other side of the country 😦

[jaunty fulcrum]

Do I win a prize?

[amber sparrow]

You don't wanna see my twitchtest results. I will beat you(in a bad way)

[livid plover]

Hell, now i wanna try it on the 8/1mbit DSL line

[sweet anchor]

Wait Matts in asia 😮

Either that, or selecting Asia servers for bad results for memes

Nvm, australia at the bottom is 17 ms. Didn't know you were australian.

[full fern]

This was a weird result for a google search. Page in question doesn't contain the info from the blurb at all

[edgy yarrow]

I never trust those snippets.

they've also been mixing in AI responses these days

[full fern]

Yeah, they're getting worse for sure

Using a different site, I did find that it's available to rent on all the usual services now in case anyone was curious. haha

[tawdry orbit]

That's a wild result... it claims the source is from a government site then the actual link is a piracy site??

[full fern]

The actual link even takes me to govt site, with a not found page. Weird

[sudden adder]

I call Honey Pot /s

[left heart]

I swear at the rate google search results are deteriorating magazines are going to make a comeback

[prisma dove]

that wouldn't be a bad thing

[left heart]

not about release dates or anything, just info in general

[open rune]

My search results are all pretty normal, but I don't let it keep any cookies or search history

[left heart]

I'm gonna agree lol, I have some old electronics magazines that a family friend wrote for and they're excellent

[open rune]

🦗

[left heart]

sky and telescope is also phenomenal

[fallen dove]

I’m live on Twitch - Watch me at https://twitch.tv/thediggleonyt

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[opaque halo]

@prisma dove

Love this one is a Weight Watchers Card

[prisma dove]

why don't you just shoot me. These are crimes against the taste buds.

[left heart]

devil's tower?

[prisma dove]

🤮

[prisma dove]

I used to work at a restaurant that serve great omelets, one of them was called "The Kitchen Sink". Depending on who the morning cook was, it was up to them what six ingredients you would get in it.

[left heart]

sounds like what I'd default to getting. choose for me :P

[opaque halo]

My dad make "Breakfast Trash".... he cooks bacon, sausage, spam, etc as the meats, multiple types of cheeses and about 3 types of taters. He uses them in an omelet or in a small heat skillet and serves individual plates to each person

[copper dirge]

i dowlaod fyde os

now im done

i cnt go back to window

im cooked

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[open rune]

Welcome to FydeOS support

[sudden adder]

You DO know where geletin comes from, right?

[prisma dove]

yep

Just have some really bad flashbacks to those holiday concoctions

[amber sparrow]

Cow hooves right?

[sudden adder]

Many animals

When auto-complete and a slow phone fight with eachother, magic happens

[amber sparrow]

[left heart]

oh neat, there are desktop mobos in the works with camm2 memory

I wonder how that's gonna play out

[sudden adder]

Only time will tell

[amber sparrow]

🔮 out for repair?

[sudden adder]

Unless its on the bottom side of the motherboard, it seems like a waste of space IMO

Top-side ATX already feels pretty crowded

[left heart]

afaik one of the driving factors towards lpcamm modules in laptops was to retain the high speed signal integrity advantages at low power in laptops that soldering memory conferred, I'm curious if there will be performance benefits on desktop too

anyway, we'll see.

[amber sparrow]

My money is on mostly aesthetics

[left heart]

if anything the servicability is nice

[amber sparrow]

That too

Tall dimms are a pain in the balls to deal with

[left heart]

the replaceable compression connector is neat, can't really replace a dimm slot

[open rune]

Seems like it takes up about the same space as a normal set of 4 DIMM slots without the height concerns

[amber sparrow]

Just more annoying to upgrade capacity in a way

[sudden adder]

Is that 1 CAMM2 memory module, or 4?

[amber sparrow]

So best to buy once cry once with this kind

[left heart]

yeah it looks like one module

[amber sparrow]

It seems like it can make for some really nice water cooling

[sudden adder]

Hmm, makes incremental upgrades a little cumbersome, at lesdt to me

[amber sparrow]

So for enthusiast builds its kind of awesome

[left heart]

agreed for sure with the incremental upgrades

[sudden adder]

instead of adding a new stick if you have room, you have to replace the whole thing

[amber sparrow]

Hence me saying "buy once cry once"

[left heart]

I'm trying to find if there are smaller modules or if the size is standardized

as in, physically smaller

[sudden adder]

Until an upgrade comes out, and you cry again, upgrade again, cry again

best to wait a couple of years and let the potential “weird” get worked out

[amber sparrow]

Just save and buy the capacity you don't currently need

And also, adding extra sticks to open dimms can cause other fuckery

See: @sick cedar

[sudden adder]

Buying a new CPU these days can cause fuckery, see Intel

[amber sparrow]

PREACH

Amd ain't looking so hot tho

Their shiny light is "we aren't intel"

[left heart]

not exactly the highest bar, but hey that's all they need to do right now

[amber sparrow]

BUT THEY COULD DO SOOOO MUCH MORE

[left heart]

sounds expensive :P

[amber sparrow]

Doesn't matter to me. I'm not buying new parts for the foreseeable future 😦

[sudden adder]

Can they though?

Are we at a point where Moore’s Law just needs a bigger package? Keep in mind, Moores Law never “really” stated the overall size of the IC.

[amber sparrow]

Lisa Su is not happy with this comment. Just had her on the phone

[sudden adder]

Then she can sue me personally

🙂

[amber sparrow]

Bahahaha

I don't know who has better shitty humor. You or @silver fable

Though not a trophy I'd personally be gunning for

[sudden adder]

I can print my own

[brazen thunder]

<insert grumpy TR owner comment here>

[sudden adder]

They need their shining light to be “we’re not Intel, because we’re “5 years ahead of them” as opposed to “oh, some Ryzen 9000 processors are basically Intel’s 11th gen, so yay”

[amber sparrow]

I mean, they aren't really that

They are slightly better than most recent intel, they just aren't killing themselves

Their pricing is still "mostly" slightly better

And they don't throw 290w to be better

[sudden adder]

Some of the 9000s dont seem to compete at all with the 7000s equivalents, which is where my “11th gen” comment comes from

[amber sparrow]

Intels answer for several years was "moar power". Amd has been doing that to am extent

Just not as severe

[amber sparrow]

They do. But "only" 2%

Not the 20% amd marketing was touting

[sudden adder]

Which isnt worth the price difference overall, unless money is no object

[amber sparrow]

Aye

Which means "buy zen 4 because it's prices will come down because NOBODY buying zen5 at full price so it's prices need to come down"

Unintended win for consumers

Thx Lisa

Also, can amd and Microsoft fucking work together to figure out the core parking BS?

They sorted the damn e core issue pretty damn quick

Microsoft blows intel every chance they can

[sudden adder]

Work together? In the tech industry? Nah

if we did, we wouldnt have 10 different standards on making LEDs turn on in your PC

[amber sparrow]

But they make sure intel gets their shit working properly pretty quick

It's absolutely absurd

(though I'm betting 75%+ of the issue is on amd being amd)

[amber sparrow]

Can i introduce you to our lord and savior SignalRGB?

[sudden adder]

Is it part of OpenPleb?

[amber sparrow]

Fuck is that

[sudden adder]

GN and L1T’s organization to open up different LED standards

https://openpleb.org

[amber sparrow]

Interesting

Personally I think the accountability one needs to be the first pillar instead of 2nd

[sudden adder]

Was announced at this past CES

[amber sparrow]

And yea, rgb is bullshit

Everyone with their own way

Use 1 singular header type on all boards and uniform connectivity

Dicks

[brazen thunder]

But how will I overcharge for proprietary bullshit if I do that

[left heart]

idk how the current rgb wiring works, but I'm gonna be that 11th standard guy and guess they'll need to separate signal from power eventually

[amber sparrow]

Like I can't even use addressable rgb with my board because it's all stupid 12v non addressable headers so I HAVE to buy a seperate controller

And then most likely specific components

[left heart]

tangentially related to this, I did get a new keyboard that has rgb leds on it, gave them a fair shake but I still don't like them personally.

[amber sparrow]

I have 6 glowy fans in their but refuse to use them in their capacity because I'm not buying a $90 hub

[left heart]

yeesh, $90?!

[amber sparrow]

And I'd turn the ram leds off but that gets annoying and causes issues

[amber sparrow]

Corsair 😦

[left heart]

...wow

[amber sparrow]

Previous case at least came with a hub of sorts

But it bricked this pc when I tried to transfer to new case

Rigged market

Plus pc under desk now so I give zero shits about glowy lights. But I will never buy corsair fans ever again

But hey, I have beer and "hot mulligan" and it's Friday so.....

[sudden adder]

Hard to breath sometimes with their products. All that corsair

[amber sparrow]

[left heart]

this sounds ripe for an OSHW project

[amber sparrow]

You gonna make me glowy case fans?

👀

[brazen thunder]

Undercut fan costs but then require a $300 dongle instead

[amber sparrow]

[open rune]

Know your dongle's worth

[silver fable]

I thought about my dongle's worth, but honestly, it's just nuts.

[left heart]

I mean regarding the controller

[cunning pine]

I know you guys are making penis/nut jokes but this comment makes me think of how expensive the wireless guitar dongles for PS3 guitars (and drums) are, whether it's for GH or RB.

[copper notch]

If one of the hardware vendors put out a product that you plug into a power cable in the PC, and it has a button on it you can turn on and off, and turning it off completely disabled every single LED on the motherboard, and on any connected peripherals, I'd pay $50 for it. Call it **NORGB AI Xtreem XT"

[cunning pine]

most RGB can be turned off though. albeit it requires either going into the BIOS or first installing the software for the product which is why you probably want a single device that can just be plugged in and does it without needing to do all that.

in my experience though, most products that require you to install software to change the RGB, have a memory chip and it saves what you did to the device itself so you could then uninstall the software afterwards.

[copper notch]

I disabled all the RGB stuff in my BIOS, but a single button that says "I am not into the RGB craze, I want my room dark and I never look inside my computer" would be just right up my alley.

and also says "And I don't want poorly written buggy RGB software to destabilize my computer and make it crash randomly"

Like ASUS' Armory Cringe or whatever it is called.

🙂

[sharp olive]

https://x.com/Satoshi2310/status/1824536282871324942
The Lamborghini Sian Roadster from Forza Horizon 5, but I changed it to Pikachu color and Pokémon painting

[livid plover]

looked it up and they advertise an "8 second wake up time"
how is it so bad

(oops ping)

[grizzled basin]

does anyone wear prescription glasses?? what does small boost of power mean

[livid plover]

reading field

[grizzled basin]

do you wear prescription glasses

[livid plover]

no. it's what it is. also called progressive lens

[grizzled basin]

if ur answer is No then dont answer. Because the type of glasses im shopping for is "single vision" NOT "progressive"

it clearly says in the screenshot even.

[livid plover]

then contact whoever is tryign to sell you those

[grizzled basin]

crazy how non-expert discord users try to give you their input on things they have no clue about.

[livid plover]

read it yourself. it's part of the "anti-fatigue" upsell

you're asking in a streamign software discord for someone to guess what a random blurb means just contact the shop's customer service and have the actual "experts" help you sell their product to you

[grizzled basin]

it even says "single vision" in the screenshot.. not "progressive"

[livid plover]

aight, sounds liek you got it all figured then

[grizzled basin]

anyways, if anyone wears prescription glasses and would like to clarify this i would appreciate it.

[civic quarry]

[amber sparrow]

[civic quarry]

I do, but after what I read I'm absolutely not interested in a conversation

[silver fable]

I wear contacts, and I also own glasses. It's just a part of the lens, at the bottom, to make text look larger so your eyes don't have to strain as much when looking at it.

It is not the same thing as progressive lenses, though. Progressive lenses usually have three levels. Far, medium, and closeup. These just have what amounts to a very slight magnification on the bottom.

[livid plover]

you know google will literally help you find the answer?

[amber sparrow]

What's google

[livid plover]

dead apparently

[amber sparrow]

Heh

[livid plover]

we're the new google

[grizzled basin]

would it be weird to ask my doctor to write a table exactly like this for my prescription? because doctors dont typically do that, they just write scribbles and expect whoever u hand the Rx to understands that

[civic quarry]

So we get ad money?

[livid plover]

https://www.warbyparker.com/eyeglasses/anti-fatigue-lenses read and find out, if in doubt contact the shop/seller/visit an eyeglass shop in person and get tested aswell to find out your actual needs/eye defects

[silver fable]

It's weird that your doctor actually writes prescriptions anymore. I haven't had anything but a computer printout with all the info in the last decade.

[grizzled basin]

yeah its usually a computer prinout, ur correct. but im tryna buy glasses online and i would have no clue how to fill in the Rx

[silver fable]

Well, ordering online, you'd usually upload a PDF file with the info, so a digital copy of it.

[grizzled basin]

ah i like to fill in manually because im ordering from outside of my country, so different things may have different interoperations

[silver fable]

Anything that has a prescription usually requires confirmation from the person/company that wrote the prescription, as well. Then again, the last time I bought contacts from another country was when I bought them in China, and literally just walked into the shop with a box and said, "I need this power."

[amber sparrow]

I buy my kids prescription glasses online and they don't need confirmation

They will send lenses with whatever you enter

[silver fable]

Ahhh.... Must be a contacts thing.

[terse helm]

I don’t think I’ve ever had these numbers not handed to me on a printout

[snow sand]

lol

[deft vapor]

bro i think im actually cooked

[sharp crest]

I've never seen them not handwritten

[deft vapor]

i deleted the file but it keeps saying it 😭

[grizzled basin]

I got the results for my eye test

[sudden adder]

That chart looks about the same as mine did the last two times i went to get glasses over the past 8 years

[grizzled basin]

I don't know if those numbers are positive or negative. The doctor rushed me out of the clinic, I didn't have time to ask 😭

[opaque halo]

I would call the office to clarify. They should have a record of the perscription

[grizzled basin]

Do you have problems with near or far distance

[sudden adder]

My eyes are basically polar opposites of eachother vision-wise

[terse helm]

they're negative

if they were positive they'd be in the read section

because positive lenses are for farsighted people who can see far away just fine but not up close (i.e. reading)

[stoic kernel]

Astigmatism?

[grizzled basin]

i have no idea what that means, the doctor gave me the results and basically told me to get off.

i have so many questions, ill book another consultation next week, its supposed to be free

[sudden adder]

from Mayo Clinic...

Overview. Astigmatism (uh-STIG-muh-tiz-um) is a common and generally treatable imperfection in the curvature of the eye that causes blurred distance and near vision. Astigmatism occurs when either the front surface of the eye (cornea) or the lens inside the eye has mismatched curves.

[stoic kernel]

The Cyl. value means cylinder afaik they are used for correcting astigmatism

[terse helm]

You could do research…

[amber sparrow]

Fans go brrrrrrrrr at 5120x1440

[prisma dove]

"small boost" can mean anywhere from a half increment to 2. It really depends on what the marketing dept decided to write. Check the specs sheet on the glasses for the actual values of the boost.

And yes, I wear prescription lenses.

[stoic kernel]

no, obs discord knows more

[stoic kernel]

i appreciate the pfp change

[open rune]

That's not Darktide

[marsh helm]

i know of a place in america that does discount glasses if oyu have low income

https://www.zennioptical.com

[amber sparrow]

Furiosa is on max already. I really enjoyed it. Chris Hemsworth did a pretty good job

[amber sparrow]

Only reinstalled BL3 to run its benchmark since it seems all other benchmarks don't want to do 5120x1440. Heaven, superposition, wukong

[open rune]

Don't support ultrawide?

[amber sparrow]

Heaven supports ultrawode I think, just not super ultrawide. Can only do max 4096 on either side. Wukong does a max of 27:9 and superposition only does 16:9

Time spy free I think only did 16:9

[opaque halo]

Two cans?? That's all???

[full fern]

Spam is expensive these days!

[opaque halo]

I saw something about Aldi brand. Supposed to be just as good, if not better and it's still cheap

[amber sparrow]

It's still a lb and a half. That's pretty decent for some sammiches

And yea, it's Aldi. $1.50 or $1.75/can

[opaque halo]

NICE!!!!!

[full fern]

Bless the store brand canned meat!

[amber sparrow]

Amen. Gotta find ways to keep affording groceries

[compact lark]

I make maybe 14~16 slices out of one spam can, then fry them on an electric griddle
am I missing anything by not grilling them?

[full fern]

I feel lucky to have a Walmart in reach now. In the city it was at least an hour's drive away. I'm a real rural housewife now, going to Walmart in my pajamas

[amber sparrow]

These aren't grilled, they are smoked

Smoke em then fry em. Perfection

A couple hours of smoke penetrating and the rub really baking into them makes for a thorough taste imho

[amber sparrow]

@terse helm certainly seems my pads were due for a change

[cunning pine]

@opaque halo You have more patience and and tolerance than I do lol.
I wouldn't give that person the time of day. someone who uses that @ knows full well that it either does nothing or would ping thousands of randos and that kind of person is an asshole who doesn't give a fuck. But that's just my opinion on the matter.

[opaque halo]

🙂 I try to be patient. I fully agree with the fact they "know" already. BTW - thanks for the assists in w-s. I apprecitate it and keep notes when you and others hit a solution much faster than what I would have gotten to.

[cunning pine]

I just spit random shit from by brain that I think might be the issue/solution because in my brain it feels like the most likely/common thing

🙃

I'm willing to have some tolerance and patience and understanding with someone who maybe only just created their discord account not long ago so maybe they don't fully understand what that @ is and how it works. but that dude has a hype squad badge.

[opaque halo]

TBH - a lot of times I won't even engage when they come in with that type of stuff, or full throttle caps, cursing, etc. Best for me to not say anything and just 🍿 🙂

[cunning pine]

the caps thing for real until they immediately follow up with a sorry, caps lock at which point I just think to myself "they are the kind of person who looks at their keyboard the whole time and hits enter before proof reading" and then just proceed like normal

[subtle raven]

Does anyone know any configuration for stream with ryzen 5 5600g

[cunning pine]

!simple

[wise bay]

We recommend using Simple output mode for most streaming and recording needs. While advanced output mode allows for more fine-tuning of options, it does not guarantee better quality; in fact, it often results in lower quality/performance when settings are changed that should not be.

To change back to Simple output mode:

1. In OBS Studio, click on Settings, then select Output
2. Change Output Mode from Advanced to Simple

[cunning pine]

ez

[opaque halo]

Yup 🙂 Only time I look at my keyboard when typing is when I'm entering passwords for work

[cunning pine]

yeah cuz you are sometimes using odd symbols and stuff you aren't used to moving your fingers to

and you don't want to mess it up

[subtle raven]

Do you know any configuration for stream with ryzen 5 5600g

[cunning pine]

look above at the bot message

[opaque halo]

for sure. Out Security department has implemented a 18 character requirement for logging into servers. Even us as IT staff have to use at least 12

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[cunning pine]

if you have any other questions, refer to a support channel @subtle raven

[opaque halo]

@cunning pine - prime example 🙂

[tall vapor]

hopefully it's 18 char, upper&lowercase&special chars

and no real words

[opaque halo]

Yup. Fully scrambled trash 🙂

[tall vapor]

excellent

[cunning pine]

sounds like they have a competent person in charge as well as competent IT department

[opaque halo]

Can't even use keepass 🙂

[cunning pine]

can't use LastPass and get your account login info leaked cuz of a hack?

dang

[opaque halo]

I've been with the complany since 2007. Back then we had an IT Sec department of 5. It's over 100 now.

Our entire IT team is just about 1200.

[cunning pine]

that's pretty big, but the coporation must be huge at that point

[opaque halo]

Healthcare System - in 4 states plus remote physicians across the Continental US along with remote users in Hawaii and Alaska

Just went over 26 Hospitals and over 300 imaging / lab offices and about 800 network physician offices.

Our Radiology imaging archive just crested 4 Petabytes

and.. I could take early retirement at 55 next month 🙂

[civic quarry]

early retirement feels like something unobtainable for my generation

[opaque halo]

Only way I could make it happen is because I already have my Military retirement

Oh - BTW Yolo - thank you for the recommendation about the monitor arm. Got one and have been quite happy with the additional desk space and having the monitors at a more ergonomic height. Still have the gaps though cause I prefer to have the monitors tilted back a bit.

[civic quarry]

yeah I have 3 of them, never had any issues

[cunning pine]

oh, speaking of desk space, I bought a new desk yesterday.

it'll arrive in about a week

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXSPYDFB

upgrading from a smaller 47x24" desk

I mainly just wanted something with more depth, and this has it by about another foot

[opaque halo]

NICE!! Here's my current setup. Been too lazy lately to move the PC down to the shelf under the desk 🙂

[cunning pine]

I can't do an L shape in my room lol

let me see if I have a wide angle picture of my current setup

[opaque halo]

This sits in a little side cubby of the FROG. It's nice for when I'm on call. Have a king sized bed here for when I'm on call and the wall right behind my chair has a full bath.

[cunning pine]

so the new desk is gonna take over the role of that wooden stand I have my PC on, and will also extend over into the space where the fan is

[opaque halo]

yeah.. that's a bit of a micro desk 🙂

the FROG is 18' x 24' so I have plenty of room for (as my wife says) all my nerd shit

[cunning pine]

much older picture

but it shows the desk with the monitors and stuff for size.

the main display is a 27"

also used to smoke back then

[opaque halo]

My old setup. Solid wooden door on two scratch and dent lower kitchen cabinets - sometime we just gotta make it work

[cunning pine]

IKEA style

this is what that wall where my PC is now used to look like

not enough room for shit in my room at this point.

[opaque halo]

Pretty cool. Love the floating shelves

[cunning pine]

IKEA LACK shelves

unlike the crappier ones where they hook on by just using little metal flaps/plates that are screwed into the cheap wood, these use solid metal bars with rods sticking off them that go into holes inside the shelve to give it way more strength and weight support

[opaque halo]

The cheap ones are just simple engineered gravity testers 😆

[cunning pine]

the shorter ones use two rods, the bigger one uses three.

[opaque halo]

Now that makes sense. Would be great for me displaying my miniatures.... but DAMN I hate dusting 🙂

[old vortex]

👋

[copper notch]

Interesting, looks like some Discord servers are displaying some stats at the bottom of the channel list now, not sure what the criteria for it is etc.

[old vortex]

Some bots do this for the servers

Like mee6

[copper notch]

Oh, it's provided by a bot... never realized they could do that

[old vortex]

Discord itself is just a environment

Its bots that do the most