#Israel-Hamas War Discussion

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fiery walrus
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You take a kernel of truth, and then make it far bigger than it actually is

unkempt plume
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Was it even really that needed

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You'd think that seeing terrorists burn houses with civilians inside with the sole purpose of smoking them out would do the job

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Or uh

timber halo
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Weird internet thing were you have to choose between two sides like if it was a football game

unkempt plume
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But the story that got me really mad like 2 days ago

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I'm still mad about it

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Anyways yeah you'd think that covering more of that would do the job

fiery walrus
unkempt plume
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Won't work

fiery walrus
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Especially from peeps who are on the fence about this

unkempt plume
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Going outside and celebrating the deaths of innocent civilians with candies

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And before you say that didn't happen it absolutely did

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Lebanon for example

fiery walrus
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Yeah I know, I saw

unkempt plume
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Actually it happens after every successful terrorist attack

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In Gaza and the West Bank

fiery walrus
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But everyone has their personal red line. For example I still had some sympathy left until I saw the video of them randomly shooting a dog, now I just dont care about them anymore. And probably with many people that red line is with babies and kids

unkempt plume
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I have a few lines

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One of which is SA

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Which was very much crossed already

fiery walrus
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SA?

unkempt plume
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I can't say the thing

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You know

fiery walrus
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Ahhh

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Yeah got it

unkempt plume
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There are like max 10 in this country who still don't support Israel

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Even someone like Amir Hetsroni has said that we should attack

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And that guy is one of the biggest extremist leftists in Israel

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Of course there are people like Omer Casif which I whole heartedly believe should be fired immediately from the Knesset

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Fjodor just so you can put into perspective how fucking awful this guy is imagine an American politician saying that 9/11 was deserved 3 days after it

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Oh of course he'd also say that while not being in the US

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Like god

unkempt plume
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Genuinely deserves a beating

fiery walrus
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I suppose he is not allowed into the country

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Cuz thats just treason lol

unkempt plume
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But he'd be stupid to come here now

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Btw can I get more sources for this claim Sarif

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I'm not saying it's wrong I just don't think other people would believe stuff from the Grayzone

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It seems that Reddit is just straight up banning people who post any proof of Hamas terrorism

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Not any subreddits in specific just straight up Reddit

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I don't know if this is true though so don't take it as complete fact yet

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Apparently they say it's due to gore but I'm pretty sure that videos from Gaza are allowed despite having wounded and dead????

fiery walrus
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They have lately been very strict with gore yeah, about a month ago they banned the EyeBlech subreddit (a gore subreddit)

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The exception is actual military combat footage

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Which is why subreddits about those are still active

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But there are subreddits that still post gore (also from this war)

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So it's not that heavily regulated

unkempt plume
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I'm so tired

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I'm now getting claims that the 40 babies shit is true but the thing is that not all 40 were decapitated

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Which is actually what the CNN article about it says

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I'm not sure how trustworthy CNN is though lol

unkempt plume
wind lodge
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The 40 babies thing was crazy when they announced it. Not a single image or parents crying or nothing

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But it was a powerful enough propaganda tool that Joe Biden cited it in his speech pledging support for Israel

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Hell of a thing

unkempt plume
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Haven't seen the speech

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Heard it was pretty good though

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At least in comparison to our PM

fiery walrus
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Israel definitely took notes from Ukraine during Russia's invasion, which in the initial stages went super wild with their propaganda

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Ghost of Kiev and "last stand" on Snake Island were all over the place on the internet

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Most hilarious one has gotta be the idea that the song "Endless Love" was sung by Zelensky and his wife

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Basically take any wild claim with a grain of salt unless there is actual proof

unkempt plume
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Luckily we have plenty of proof for most stuff

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And that is thanks to Hamas documenting their monstrosities

fiery walrus
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Yeah Hamas really dug their own grave with that

unkempt plume
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Literally ISIS

unkempt plume
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They haven't lost any support

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The Palestinian cause has

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And I doubt they actually care about that

fiery walrus
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It's simply hate for Jews now

night cloud
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You say the Ghost of Kyiv is fake because you worry about if its real. I say the Ghost of Kyiv is real because its good Ukrainian propaganda

night cloud
dreamy frost
night cloud
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TRUE

unkempt plume
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Can you send me those links I need them

fiery walrus
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I dont mind sending them of course

fiery walrus
unkempt plume
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Omfg I remember the Ukraine ones

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These articles gotta be satire

fiery walrus
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Yeah apparently it's fake, just looked it up

unkempt plume
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I guessed so haha

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Also those numbers give it away lmfao

fiery walrus
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Memers can't count

bold jetty
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I'm literally trying to see the video about like a hamas member killing a inoccent civilian welp I did find some but they weren't as many as the Israel ones

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I don't trust both sides lol

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Like if hamas did kill babys

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Then why is there no parents crying about there baby's?

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Idk anymore lol

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And if they killed baby's they would mostly film it and then it will be posted in WPD (aka watch people die)

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(I don't mean that I support war crimes)

unkempt plume
unkempt plume
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If you're talking in general though that's probably because the parents were also killed

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Ah okay

bold jetty
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Like if they did kill the parents and the baby's they would mostly film it

unkempt plume
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Hamas members burned houses with the people inside with the purpose of either smoking them out or burning them inside

bold jetty
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Tbh I don't want Jews to get out from Palestine

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Because some of them are good people

unkempt plume
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Can you reword that message it's a bit confusing

bold jetty
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I meant I think they burned the house so the people inside of it get out

unkempt plume
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Ah alright

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That's what "smoking them out" means btw

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Those who tried to get out got shot

grand glacier
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How do you know they aren’t

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And like eggman said they’re probably dead too

bold jetty
# grand glacier ?

Lets say if they did kill the parents and the baby's they would mostly film it

grand glacier
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You think the terrorists that kill pets wouldn’t kill babies?

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Go looking into the dark web you’ll find it

bold jetty
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Nope I do think

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But if they did it would mostly get posted in WPD

grand glacier
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Go look for it

bold jetty
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I did

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And I didn't see any results Soo probably it's fake (btw I'm not supporting hamas by any means)

unkempt plume
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nah babies absolutely got killed

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Just not in the systematic way that the 40 babies shit suggests

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It was more just them shooting anyone they see

bold jetty
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Yea

unkempt plume
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Anyways stuff like burning people alive is documented already

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Hamas literally takes videos of their terrorism

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Btw I've seen people who say that the woman who was paraded in Gaza is alive so it's not as bad and like what the actual fuck

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How does it make it better

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Shame on the Gazans too

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Spitting on a paraded, naked abused hostage

rustic crane
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both sides are just shades of moral black and the war JUST started

unkempt plume
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It's kinda sad how a very big part of the kidnapped and murdered here are very big advocates of two state solution

stiff pecan
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It’s makes sense tho I wouldn’t be surprised if that was planned

unkempt plume
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I guess

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It's also stupid

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Cause they radicalised an entire country against them

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A country which supplies their essentials

stiff pecan
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Honestly the only ones that should be supported is the people that are suffering while they didn’t do anything

stiff pecan
unkempt plume
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Nah

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Around the world people are just dislike them now

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Here people were fucking completely radicalised

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And no effort from the government was even needed!

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What an amazing job I've never seen it happen this fast

stiff pecan
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Well what they doing made it very easy for everyone to hate them

unkempt plume
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I mean they still have supporters

stiff pecan
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No matter what do hamas won’t win

unkempt plume
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And they'll still have massive support in the west bank and Gaza

unkempt plume
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25 American deaths by now

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Ain't no way the Islamic Jihad made a Tweet condemning the USA 💀

bold jetty
unkempt plume
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That's the name of the group itself

bold jetty
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They kill they do the hard r to women they do war crimes

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And then they say We ArE ThE rEaL mUsLiMs

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Boy you literally broke every Islamic rule

unkempt plume
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The audio is a skit about a guy almost shitting his pants

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I am not joking

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It's actually pretty funny tbh

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Actually it's not the audio I'm dumb

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But it's not a video from Gaza dawg

unkempt plume
bold jetty
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I actually want Palestine free but NOT IN A GENOCIDAL WAY

grand glacier
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No matter what happens

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What ever side wins genocide will happen it sucks that there’s no real way out of it

unkempt plume
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An estimated half of the hostages are already dead by now

fiery walrus
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Did Hamas post footage?

unkempt plume
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Maybe

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It's just an estimation

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Not by me

fiery walrus
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Yeah since they threatened that they would do that

unkempt plume
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If they did post more footage than what they already did I wouldn't know cause I'm doing my mental health a favour and not watching it

fiery walrus
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Understandable

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The lack of footage could also be good news

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It's possible that they realize how fucked they are if they posted that

stiff pecan
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Hopefully they were bluffing

fiery walrus
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Yeah

stiff pecan
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Probably not tho

unkempt plume
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"Gaza targets military sites only, warning people and give them enough time to leave" There is no way I just saw someone write this

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There's no damn way

unkempt plume
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Ik that you've seen a lot of videos from them so I thought you might have seen one alreayd

unkempt plume
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Hamas is calling for mass recruitment for the war on Tuesday

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This will not be a good day in the west bank

night cloud
unkempt plume
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Didn't you talk about a hostage burning alive

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Although Ig that wouldn't be considered an execution as it happened before that message

night cloud
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Yeah I saw that and it was gross

dreamy frost
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Yo did Israel just try to kill the Iranian Foreign Minister

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@bold jetty just checked automod reports. Please calm down with your angry messages.

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I will still have to mute you if they get super excessive

bold jetty
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I'm not angry my guy

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I'm just pissed that hamas is attacking by the name of god while they are literally breaking every Islamic rule

bold jetty
dreamy frost
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All that matters to them is death to Israel.

bold jetty
dreamy frost
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Makes sense because his followers were the original Israelites

bold jetty
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They are being worse than Zionists and Israel ITSELF

unkempt plume
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Seeing people talk about how they had to say their first kadish is genuinely depressing

fiery walrus
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What's kadish?

unkempt plume
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A kadish is a prayer a loved one says for a deceased at their funeral

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Jewish stuff

fiery walrus
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I see

bold jetty
fiery walrus
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I just saw the pictures of the burnt up babies

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And one bled out one

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Head is blurred but it seems to be bleeding from that area

bold jetty
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And then THEY WANT MUSLIMS TO UNITE WITH THEM

unkempt plume
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I saw the video from the bunker at the music festival
The evil required to throw a grenade into a safe room full of unarmed civilians...

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I only saw like 2 seconds but it was harrowing

bold jetty
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Those fuckers I swear to god

unkempt plume
bold jetty
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Omg.......

unkempt plume
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The recorder himself looked high so he probably couldn't fully comprehend the situation

bold jetty
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May this help I guess.

dreamy frost
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This is sounding a lot like the footage I saw of ISIS attacking the Bataclan years ago.

unkempt plume
bold jetty
unkempt plume
dreamy frost
fiery walrus
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Ah Isis is a whole different beast

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That "slaughterhouse" video is probably still one of the worst one I have seen

dreamy frost
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Every other terrorist group hated them lmao

unkempt plume
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Soldiers in Kfar Aza "found" an ISIS flag carried by one of the terrorists

bold jetty
unkempt plume
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Probably faked

dreamy frost
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Probably bc isis declared a caliphate

dreamy frost
bold jetty
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It's to ISIS

dreamy frost
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You used the Iraq flag

fiery walrus
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He is saying that he is proud as an Iraqi to have killed ISIS

bold jetty
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Yea cuz Iraq fucked ISIS

dreamy frost
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Oh, I see. Thanks for clarifying

bold jetty
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That's why I love my country and I would still love it

dreamy frost
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I kinda wish the Iraqi Security Forces didn't just drop all their guns and vehicles in that first siege of Baghdad though

fiery walrus
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Hahaha Sarif when he sees nationalism GrantAmazed

unkempt plume
# unkempt plume Probably faked

Only explanation I can think of besides that is maybe the ISIS branch in Gaza sent 1 or 2 terrorists to tag along with Hamas

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Unlikely though

dreamy frost
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Nationalism is dangerous

fiery walrus
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Youre right

bold jetty
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Although I got born in 2010 I was able to see the horror from the Iraq isis war

wind lodge
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You were born in 2010?

bold jetty
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Yes

fiery walrus
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Uh oh

unkempt plume
bold jetty
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Did I do smth :-:

unkempt plume
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Uh don't say your birth month

wind lodge
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I'm sorry you were subjected to a lot at such a young age

fiery walrus
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Well more like wasnt the minimum age of Discord 15 or smthing?

unkempt plume
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Nope

wind lodge
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13

fiery walrus
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Ah, perfect then

bold jetty
wind lodge
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Not always

bold jetty
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Yea but I got learned to enjoy the suffer

unkempt plume
dreamy frost
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No I used that gif bc behemoth gets spared but close call

unkempt plume
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Ik

bold jetty
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;-;

stiff pecan
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Let’s go I’m not the youngest here

dreamy frost
stiff pecan
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Yeah if your underaged you put the server at risk

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Discord would delete the server

unkempt plume
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Nothing personal Behemoth we gotta listen to Discord TOS here

stiff pecan
fiery walrus
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28 MalcolmCry

stiff pecan
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Old man

fiery walrus
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Makes you wonder why I am talking to kids

wind lodge
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^^^

bold jetty
fiery walrus
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FBI dont blacklist me pls

stiff pecan
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Mf is in s nursing home

wind lodge
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I'm 24

stiff pecan
wind lodge
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Yeah there's horrific stuff out there

stiff pecan
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Mans older then time

grand glacier
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And behemoth said it was fake

wind lodge
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lots of casualties all around

grand glacier
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Sick

unkempt plume
bold jetty
unkempt plume
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Oh

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I didn't get to see the message

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What was said there

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Actually don't

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It'll just get deleted again

bold jetty
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Omg idk anymore

unkempt plume
grand glacier
dreamy frost
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40 babies was a lie made up by a fascist Israeli

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Hamas has done plenty of evil that you can tell the truth about

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Don't peddle propaganda made by fascists

grand glacier
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||two burnt one mutilated||

bold jetty
bold jetty
grand glacier
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They’ll get there’s

bold jetty
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And then they want us Muslims to join them

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If you literally broke the most important rule in the Islamic book which is NOT KILLING INNOCENT CIVILIANS

dreamy frost
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I do believe Islam is a religion of peace, but I've seen a lot of Muslims don't follow the teachings precisely.

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Similarly to Christians here

unkempt plume
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I really hope I'll be proven wrong in a few days

bold jetty
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Idk anymore my guy

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Who is true who is right idfk

bold jetty
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Palestinians too

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They are literally just making genocides

unkempt plume
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Tbh while I do believe that trouble will come from Lebanon or/and the West Bank I don't know if there'll be a repeat of 2021

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Back then Israeli Arab riots actually did lynchs in Jewish people and a few of the opposite

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This time the arab or more the Bedouin community was hurt very badly

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So I don't think they'll join

bold jetty
unkempt plume
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A few of them were below 15

maiden grove
bold jetty
grand glacier
maiden grove
unkempt plume
bold jetty
maiden grove
unkempt plume
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I know

grand glacier
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If Hamas wins they’ll do the same to the Israelis

bold jetty
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Yep

maiden grove
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If Hamas wins they'll just kill all the Israelis left

bold jetty
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They would do the same thing Israels did to Palestine before

maiden grove
grand glacier
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Probably worse considering Hamas

bold jetty
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Sorry if my English is shit

unkempt plume
bold jetty
maiden grove
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They'd take all the land and kill every last civilian I'm sure from what we've heard

grand glacier
grand glacier
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Wait I meant no need

bold jetty
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Ok

grand glacier
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As you can see I can barely speak English myself

bold jetty
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Anyway I think the things that hamas is doing is pure idoicoty

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Not only the whole world would probably stop supporting you the fact that the whole Israels would hate Palestine and hamas more

maiden grove
# unkempt plume I know

I unironically am wondering what you would expect given that this affects you btw. That wasn't rhetorical

wind lodge
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Palestinians will have to endure many years of suffering before any major systemic change can be made for their benefit

fiery walrus
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They need to accept first that the Jews are there to stay, they have to cooperate rather than expel them like they're currently trying to

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Islam also needs an "enlightenment" so that not every internal issue becomes an opportunity for religious extremists to take over the reigns

dreamy frost
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😂

dreamy frost
dreamy frost
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You have to go all the way back to Turkish oppression to understand how we got to here

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Same for 911

wind lodge
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Israel basically has them under apartheid

fiery walrus
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I am aware of the history, but Im specifically replying to Jimmie's message about the Palestinians. Of course fundamentally speaking the Israelis caused the current mess, but it would be naive to think that the Palestinians would be fine with the country if it took a more lenient stand towards them. From what I can tell, aside from the settlers and zionists (including the government) many Jews would be fine to live together with the muslims, but the latter is less open to that idea

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Which is understandable because they want their land back, but it's not a solution to just expel all Jews after all these decades

dreamy frost
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They're less open to the idea because the West has taken and taken and taken from them

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The Ottomans tried to do it. And then the British and French just straight up betrayed the Saudis and Levantines

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And then with the declaration of Israel so did the Soviet Union and the USA

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To me the final straw was the invasion of Iraq and the destabilization of the region by the CIA

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I also agree just dissolving Israel is not a solution to this but treating Palestine like a legitimate country and giving them all the support you'd see Saudi Arabia get is a fucking start

fiery walrus
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Everything you describe is of course terrible, but if they keep looking at the wrongs in history then peace will basically never be achieved in that region. Yes support would help, but the mindset of these people also needs to adapt

dreamy frost
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You can't educate them like that in an apartheid state

fiery walrus
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Otherwise all that support will be used to undermine Israel as much as possible, and in the future cause another conflict

dreamy frost
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And listen, Israel is not going to change

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So you have a wolf outside a cage that contains a rabies infested bear

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God we should've just let the Arabs make their own kingdom a hundred and twenty years ago

fiery walrus
# dreamy frost And listen, Israel is not going to change

Sure, but Hamas' actions clearly won't make a difference either, and in fact will probably make the apartheid state even worse. If their hate was less focussed on "all Jews bad!" and more on targetting solely military targets their cause would have been much more sympathetic. And the fact that so many muslims from all over the world support their actions is why I gave that "Islam needs an enlightenment argument"

dreamy frost
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Hamas do not answer for all Palestinians

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But yes fuck them

fiery walrus
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Yeah but Palestinians clearly support them

dreamy frost
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They have no other choice from their point of view

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I don't blame them even if they're wrong

fiery walrus
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I can definitely get behind your argument

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This is just such a complex issue

dreamy frost
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This just so happens to be the worst outcome we could've had for this decades long conflict

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Palestinians living abroad and western liberals are absolutely insane for supporting Hamas. But if you live there? It's all you have

wind lodge
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Palestinians deserve better than Hamas.

fiery walrus
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Indeed

unkempt plume
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"Russia: Israeli air strikes on Syria are a flagrant violation of its sovereignty and basic standards of international law"

unkempt plume
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Imagine if Russia, like, did war crimes and shit

dreamy frost
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The stereotype was too strong @fiery walrus 😂

unkempt plume
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What did I miss

dreamy frost
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A conspiracy meme

unkempt plume
dreamy frost
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But the Jew Chad wojak has a big nose and everything

dense sentinel
dreamy frost
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I don't know i didn't verify it but it was bizarre

unkempt plume
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It's real

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It was posted on the official Israel twitter account

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Not this lmao

unkempt plume
dreamy frost
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Okay you can post memes but not ones that could get our server deleted

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That's why the russo-ukrainian war thread has been safe. Nothing super offensive shared

unkempt plume
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ah alright

dreamy frost
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And also nothing that's bait for an argument

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Lol

unkempt plume
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Hamas is calling for their supporters across the world to hurt Israelis and Jews tomorrow

dreamy frost
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That's great. I love being in security.

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I will throat punch any dumbass who tries to hurt residents at my site

unkempt plume
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I'm more worried about Europe and Muslim countries that allow Israeli tourists than the USA

fiery walrus
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I can definitely see our synagogues being in danger here in Amsterdam

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And theyre already heavily fortified and secured

unkempt plume
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Honestly I'm more worried about Europe than Muslim countries

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Those are usually dictatorships and anyone who tries something there (against the government) KNOWS they're in for a lot of pain later

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Also most Israeli tourists have left Muslim countries

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Some came back from Europe but not all

fiery walrus
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It's true, though it seems that France and Germany are already cracking down on Palestine supporters

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We will see

dreamy frost
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European leftists have more back bone than American leftists

rustic crane
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I wish most Americans bothered to do research before saying shit like "wipe Gaza off the map"

grand glacier
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Isn’t a country going to be banning flying the Palestinian flag or is that not true

sullen bronze
dreamy frost
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Thank you Zero, very cool

sullen bronze
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Another of gaijin poor balacing

chilly kraken
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A black and white view of the world is also common here so thats also a reason why. Hell some still support hamas just because of association with Palestine, which never made sense to me

wind lodge
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Someone said news here in the states is starting to look like 22 years ago lmao

timber halo
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Some dubious french politician said something that was true,

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Hamas isn't doing it for Palestine or freedom
The ripost from Israel is going to be disproportionate, and they kill innocent people during peace concerts

wind lodge
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I think it's already disproportionate, a lot of Palestinians have been killed by the bombings

dreamy frost
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I said something earlier that I used the wrong name for

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Charles of Arabia, which is actually an insult to King Charles of today

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Lawrence of Arabia

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is who I meant

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What a story this is by the way

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British guy who basically becomes an Arab after fighting against the Ottomans with them for years and then tries to advocate for them at peace talks only for the British and French to backstab him and all Arabs

wind lodge
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Oh yeah, I thought everyone knew about him. He basically is the allfather of the white savior trope in film

dreamy frost
sullen bronze
grand glacier
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Right to protest is one of the best things about the US

sullen bronze
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Yeah, but their doing next big thing getting then blacklist from jobs....

wind lodge
grand glacier
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You live in France Jimmie?

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I didn’t know you were euro

wind lodge
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oui oui merci baguette 😊

grand glacier
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I could go for a baguette tbh

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Looks like Americans are speed running post 9/11 terror

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Bullshit we weren’t even attacked this time

sullen bronze
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One good thing brush did after 9/11 is that not all muslim were bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liudIJFg8UQ&ab_channel=APArchive

(17 Sep 2001)

  1. Wide shot Bush and Arab American representative addressing journalists
  2. SOUNDBITE (English) George W Bush, U -S President:
    "Thank you all very much for your hospitality. We just had some wide-ranging discussions on the matter in hand. Like the good folk standing with me, the American people were appauled and outraged at l...
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This something biden should do

dreamy frost
dreamy frost
grand glacier
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I want people to know I’m not trying to make this about us

dreamy frost
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I'm going to delete the message on the grounds of violence advocacy

grand glacier
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I meant the party not the people in it

dreamy frost
fiery walrus
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From left to right: Order of Holy Sepulchre, Order of Saint John, Templar Order, Order of Saint Thomas, Teutonic Order

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🤓

sullen bronze
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fiery walrus
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Seemingly in response to Israel's dead babies Hamas has posted pictures of their dead babies as well

dreamy frost
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"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

wind lodge
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'I saw lots of videos of actual dead palestinian babies the day the whole 40 baby thing happened

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Israel has also used White Phosphorous on civilians so that's cool

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They're also giving Israeli civilians guns to defend themselves from "Hamas" aka enabling them to just kill Palestinians if and when they feel like it

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Also that 24 hour move order will definitely get hundreds if not thousands killed.

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just overall a fuckton of not good things happening rn

woeful orbit
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I hate it when you’re right

unkempt plume
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Also those who can get guns easily are those who live in "dangerous" areas

wind lodge
unkempt plume
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Yep

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Settlements are counted as "dangerous" areas

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Although those guys probably already had guns by now

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Terrorists don't usually have a hard time getting guns

wind lodge
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Point is they don't need justification, if you fuel a large portion of a population with genocidal propoganda, then proceed to arm them, fun things will happen

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A small incident that unfortunately could be a drop in the bucket

dreamy frost
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mob justice

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Never great

unkempt plume
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Oh

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An Israeli worker was stabbed in China

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And there was another stabbing attack in France now

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I'm not surprised about France but China?

fiery walrus
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The French one is a teacher

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Of course it is a teacher

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I swear that has to be one of the most dangerous jobs in France

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And it's a Chechen perp again

wind lodge
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insane

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Also I do enjoy that they're making the entire city migrate to one tiny space in a specific region with a few bridges after just recently denying them water

unkempt plume
grand glacier
bold jetty
grand glacier
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They see civilians as either pawns or numbers on a sheet

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Really gross stuff

bold jetty
grand glacier
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Clearly not

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Considering there’s no way that they’re going to manage to beat Isrrael they’re just killing shit

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They don’t care about Palestine at all they’re just making them look worse globally

stiff pecan
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Yeah they don’t have a chance to actually win

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They just made it worse for them

bold jetty
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Israel is a strong country

grand glacier
grand glacier
stiff pecan
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When they lose you think Israel is gonna let all of them be like before

bold jetty
stiff pecan
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I just noticed that your name is behemoth and not behemonthedmontosaurus enjoyer

unkempt plume
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Terrorist groups will still exist in the group and they'll still be supported by Iran

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And Gaza will still be pretty locked

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Maybe even fully locked unlike before

unkempt plume
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I doubt they'll be allowed in anymore

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And even if they do no one will take them as employees

wind lodge
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Don't know any info about this, but this coincides with what I was talking about earlier

fiery walrus
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Never try to hustle with someone who has a gun

night cloud
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IDF clearly is just doing revenge bombing

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And they just killed a Reuters journalist in Lebanon

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Also ain't no way they can evacuate North Gaza in time

wind lodge
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Not at all

night cloud
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Not even the Iraqi Army was this bad in Mosul

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And they were fighting IS

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Fuckin Russia tier atrocity

oak valve
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was it confirmed to be white phosphorus?

unkempt plume
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Pretty sure the IDF denied use of white phosphorus

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But they could just be lying

unkempt plume
night cloud
sullen bronze
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No matter warning you give them

dreamy frost
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It's one of those days where Ben Shapiro agrees with me

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Tucker is a f*xking clown who doesn't believe anything he says. I respect Ben Shapiro only because I know the guy is true to his beliefs. Most of the time he and I are diametrically opposed to one another but he's a real person unlike most right wing commentators.

wind lodge
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There was a hamas base in that children's hospital 🥺 so we used white phosphorous

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There's actually a pro palestine protest at UCF in like an hour, shame I can't go because of a project.

dreamy frost
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Campus police are prepared to make arrests for anybody getting violent or pushing anti semitism

grand glacier
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CNN

The US intelligence community produced at least two assessments based in part on intelligence provided by Israel warning the Biden administration of an increased risk for Palestinian-Israeli conflict in the weeks ahead of Saturday’s seismic attack on southern Israel, according to sources familiar with the intelligence.

fiery walrus
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There are also articles of Egyptian intelligence warning Israel before

grand glacier
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I don’t even know anymore

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Both Isrrael and Palestine are fucked

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I definitely only side with Israeli civilians now

night cloud
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Its illegal to use hospitals, its also illegal to hit hospitals

unkempt plume
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Oh I believe y'all didn't hear about this but there was a big pro Palestine protest in Jordan that was meant to go all the way to the border and cause trouble

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The Jordanian government did not let that shit slide

night cloud
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because Jordan hates Palestinians

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Due to Black September

unkempt plume
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And Egypt is locking its border with Gaza even more now

night cloud
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Which is bad

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cause its the only way civilians could escape

unkempt plume
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Isn't the arab world meant to support Palestinians

night cloud
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That has never been the case

unkempt plume
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Oh I know they just always talk about it

night cloud
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They use Palestinians as a political tool

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Meanwhile the IDF ain't gonna actually get any of the Hamas officials that planed this

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cause they're sitting in luxury in Doha, Qatar

unkempt plume
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I do believe that they'll die one mysterious way or another after this if not during

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But yeah obviously the IDF is not gonna be what gets them

night cloud
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Who knows The Mossad might not

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The guys who were released from German prison didn't get got for example after Munich

unkempt plume
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Yeah but I'm not sure if they're only gonna have the Mossad after them

night cloud
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I mean the US is probably right now focused on trying to walk a tight rope

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Biden recently said he was concerned about the humanitarian situation in Gaza

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Support for Israel without giving the IDF a blank check

wind lodge
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Lmao it's literally a soft genocide at this point

night cloud
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6000 munitions in less than a week is not soft by any metric

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North Gaza looks like fuckin Mariupol rn

night cloud
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Dawg I cannot read Hebrew, though it is a language I would love to learn lmao

wind lodge
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There's more IDF forces aloing the borders of Gaza than there were Russians at the borders of Ukraine day 1

night cloud
wind lodge
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Ukraine is giant, whereas Gaza is fuckin tiny

night cloud
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But the IDF is expecting a hard fight

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Russia was just expecting to walk in

wind lodge
night cloud
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Hamas has upwards 50,000 fighters?

unkempt plume
night cloud
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minimum 15,000

wind lodge
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Hamas is hardly a fighting elite, they've already been wiped in most engagements. This is mostly just hell on civillians

night cloud
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and that isn't counting the other armed groups

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yeah and its on the IDF to exercise restraint

unkempt plume
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Which is true

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People here are calling to burn them alive or mutilate their bodies

night cloud
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Reminds me of America's post 9/11 derangement

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Thankfully the US going into Afghanistan was fairly light handed

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We worked with allies to oust the Talibs

unkempt plume
night cloud
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Whether remorse is felt or not

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the IDF is legally obligated to not go war crimey on the population

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and imo doing so would have long term bad consequences for Israel

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Like idk, I just don't jive with the IDF's indiscriminate bombardment rn

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You can root out terrorists in urban areas without it

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its just challenging and takes a long time

wind lodge
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It is crazy

night cloud
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There is zero justification for this shit

wind lodge
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Imagine being dehydrated told to pack all your shit and move with like a million other people, and then they bomb you anyway

night cloud
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Its a tried and true Russian/Assadist tactic

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You give people a green corridor

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they use it, then you bomb them as they use it

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Also US is apparently asking Israel to postpone its ground offensive until safe passage for civilians can be secured

unkempt plume
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Btw I only woke up at like 11am today so I don't know
When was the 24 hours thing said?

wind lodge
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like 16ish hours ago

night cloud
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yeah

wind lodge
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tick tock Ig

night cloud
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There is not enough time to evacuate all 1.1 million people that need evac

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and hospitals are a very dicey proposition because THERE IS NO WHERE TO PUT THE PATIENTS

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Every hospital was already beyond capacity

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There is just no room to move anyone

wind lodge
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They want to crowd over a million people on like a handful of old bridges over the river

night cloud
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yeah and how are you going to move hospital patients?

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some of which might not be in stable condition?

wind lodge
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Do hospitals even have power over there

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Good lord

night cloud
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Gas for generators

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But they will run out of that soon enough

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Meaning babies in incubators and people on life support die

wind lodge
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People will have to be left behind is the really fucked reality

night cloud
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Cutting off all the water and electricity to Gaza has already turned this into an inhumane siege

wind lodge
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And god forbid you're in a big building in a bombing situation

night cloud
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internet too which has very bad implications

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There are also 500 US citizens in Gaza who can't get out

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Its a nightmare scenario

grand glacier
night cloud
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There is well and truly no way this ends well and if the IDF follows the mood of a lot of the Israeli populace right now

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the international reputation of Israel will be forever scuttled

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because they're going to look like butchers as well

grand glacier
night cloud
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Also some Israeli settlers murdered people in the West Bank

wind lodge
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I'm shocked they let their mask slip like this while the entire world is watching

night cloud
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I hope Ben Gver falls down a flight of stairs

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Fucking animal

unkempt plume
night cloud
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Guy tried to fucking smear Arab-Israelis as terrorists

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and Bedouins

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which is just, how the fuck

unkempt plume
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Hamas on their way to kill Bedouin children

night cloud
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Ben Gver 🤝 Hamas: Killing Bedouins

wind lodge
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The same video I poster earlier but a longer clip

night cloud
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Yeah

wind lodge
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He really just waltzed up to him and shot him cold blood.

night cloud
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Ben Gver likes inciting this shit.

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Its why he's been giving settlers in the West Bank rifles

unkempt plume
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Of course he'd wanna do it

night cloud
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His voter base should fuck right off back to Israel's recognized territory

wind lodge
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There's IDF right there too, they just turned the other way

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This is like medieval levels of barbarism

fiery walrus
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Isnt it kinda shaking the rules to post videos of a literal murder attempt here btw?

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Not that I mind this, since it's important for the world to see this happening

wind lodge
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Hm, you're probably right

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It is insane though

fiery walrus
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Absolutely

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Some of these settlers are just horrible people

unkempt plume
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They really are

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A lot aren't there for any political reason btw

fiery walrus
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Yeah it's often purely on religious grounds

unkempt plume
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Houses in the west bank are just far more cheaper

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Not always

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It's definitely a financial one sometimes

fiery walrus
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Oh I was specifically referring to the Jews who come live there from abroad

unkempt plume
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Oh fuck those guys

fiery walrus
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That Vice report on them was baffling. One of them was just a Jewish dude from America who occupied the house of a Palestinian family and basically said fuck them, in front of them

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Cuz it was his ancestral land

unkempt plume
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That's also why less "prestigious" cities have been growing so fast lately

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Like Afula

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Tel Aviv is like the first or second most expensive city in the world right

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At least it was in 2021 iirc

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This problem was just worsened by the lockdowns three years ago obviously

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After the lockdowns 20% of the population was below the poverty line

fiery walrus
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Yikes

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Do you think they intend to make "lebensraum" out of Gaza?

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Cuz the warnings of a ground invasion kinda sorta hint at becoming an occupation

unkempt plume
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Tzuk Eitan was a ground invasion too

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Hamas was still in charge after it

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Tzuk Eitan is the 2014 stuff

fiery walrus
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I am inclined to believe that Israel is not gonna make that mistake again this time 😅

unkempt plume
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Honestly at this point I wouldn't even be surprised if we gave it back to Egypt

fiery walrus
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I dont think Egypt even wants it

unkempt plume
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They don't

fiery walrus
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Considering that they dont want the refugees

unkempt plume
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No one wants to take in the Palestinians

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No one in the arab world at least

fiery walrus
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Yeah theyre basically fucked

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As a nation in general I mean

night cloud
unkempt plume
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So 4 hours left

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Unless this is 6am of the person who tweeted this and in that case Idk which time zone they're refering to

oak valve
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i think its the israel time zone

sullen bronze
# night cloud That is not how that works.

That how it works in ICC aleast in war crime. I look this up when russian did it too to ukraine and incident with a US bombing of hospital im Iraq. International law states doing war, if the hospital is use military base for the enemy it not consider a war crime. This was brought up doing vietnam war when north vietmans soilder they hide in hospital. Yes it illegal to hide in Hospital, but under condition they do international law does not apply. Not saying that the case here and Isresl hitting targets indiscriminately

dreamy frost
timber halo
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Fucked up tbh

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Fuck the Israel government

rustic crane
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the morality of both sides have been black for decades now

dreamy frost
dreamy frost
woeful orbit
unkempt plume
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It seems like arabs who donate to the victims here are being targeted by other people in the arab society

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Like some of this is literally attempted murder

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I can't find an English version of the article unfortunately

dreamy frost
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Hamas and Israel single handedly destroying any and all peace in the middle east

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And we were so close to a proper end of hostilities with Iran

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I'm also not dumb I know Iran is doing this

unkempt plume
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Man any support Netanyahu had has almost completely vanished by now

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He's not staying after this Sarif

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Doesn't even matter what laws he passes

dreamy frost
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You say that but George w bush won re election

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It's hard to remove a wartime president or PM

unkempt plume
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Golda:

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This war had an extremely similar start to the Yom Kippur one

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A similar buildup too

rustic crane
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Hell, in US history, Civil War general Ulysses S Grant won 2 elections with a corrupt party and was gonna run again, so war fame definitely works

unkempt plume
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@timber halo I'm hearing about a terrorist attack in the Louvre
Can you look up anything relating to that in French?

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Okay nvm it seems like it was just blown out of proportions

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The Louvre closed down today because of possible terrorist attacks

timber halo
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Apparently a bomb threat got called

dense sentinel
grand glacier
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@timber halo is this true?

timber halo
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This is stupid imo because Palestinians had it rough too

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Even years before

rustic crane
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I feel like most Palestinians are probably really chill and don't deserve the hate

night cloud
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So apparently

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the convoy that was bombed while trying to evacuate people from North Gaza was on one of the evac routes the IDF had specified

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As a result a lot of Gazans might be hesitant to evac now

dreamy frost
night cloud
dreamy frost
wind lodge
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What a crazy thing to do if it was established Hamas has been mass r.ping people

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oh wait

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misread

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Either way comical barbarism, maybe Hamas was in that Planned Parenthood center

dreamy frost
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It's been thrown around way too much the last two weeks due to Hamas

wind lodge
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I wasn't even being malicious by bypassing anything I was more censoring the word. It's kind of the only descriptor for the action and it's widespread in terms of context for this forum

fiery walrus
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So apparently that picture of the burnt up babies from Israel was fake

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Since its fake might as well post it here

unkempt plume
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Lmfao

wind lodge
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Oh for fucks sake

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They were far to slow on the draw to place restrictions on AI tech

unkempt plume
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Like why are they even making stuff up people did actually burn to death

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You can just post more of those pictures

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Or post more stuff from the Re'im music festival

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God the videos I saw fron the Re'im festival

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Absolutely deplorable

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Throwing a grenade into a safe room full of wounded party goers

fiery walrus
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It has to be babies apparently 😜

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Now Im also doubting the authenticity of the picture with the bleeding baby

unkempt plume
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It's wild that they're making baby deaths up cause chances are that some babies did burn to death/got shot

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Fyi the technic Hamas used in places like Kfar Aza when they couldn't get into the safe room was to light up a tire and role it into the house

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Or just use an RPG on the house Ig

timber halo
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And with the bomb threat

unkempt plume
timber halo
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According to Macron they also prevented another attack somewhere else in France

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My school is in the hood and realistically since the wardens or whatever they're called here always take years to open the gates someone could very well drive into the crowd

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Especially since the school starts at a specific hour so instead except for people that start even more later, everyone that were to start at the 2 previous hours (+ this one) are going to be grouped

unkempt plume
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I don't think anyone is going to drive into a crowd at your school Clem

timber halo
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You'd be surprised of the amount of crime there is next to my school

unkempt plume
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Yeah but this would just be a mass murder attempt

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No one really gains anything

timber halo
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That's the point of an attentat

timber halo
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Told my mom that I didn't want to risk it but she said it happened before and I should just "be careful"

unkempt plume
# timber halo Fear?

Well you talked about crime
Which depending on the context I distinguish usual crime from terrorism

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If it's crime in a poor area it's usually for money you know

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Killing a bunch of kids does not earn you money

timber halo
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Ofc it's relatively different but what I mean is that it's not somewhere that's super safe

timber halo
unkempt plume
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It's not

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It's about sending a message

timber halo
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But wether you think there's risk or no I don't want to risk it tbvh

unkempt plume
timber halo
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And it's a place where you can't just runway easily because there's either a steep climb or a narrow curb

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If anything happens during sunday i'm going to just not go

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Wether my mom tells me to or not

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My concern is that there's a weird pattern where there was a bomb threat in Louvres, this, other attacks that got prevented

dreamy frost
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Terrorism = arms and cyberware sales

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Look up NSO group

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Literally an Israeli mercenary cyber warfare company that sells spyware named pegasus to suspicious countries and clients

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Their justification is to fight terrorism lol

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UAE has killed journalists and American citizens with it

chilly kraken
unkempt plume
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While some terrorist groups are after money, I was talking about terrorism as a whole

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The people that go out there and commit atrocities do not care about the money

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Maybe those who command them do

night cloud
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and those AI's that verify if stuff is AI are bunk

oak valve
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look at the dogs ear for the 4chan one

timber halo
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Ear looks fine

chilly kraken
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Yeah the dog is very obviously ai generated

night cloud
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"dad works at centcom"

fiery walrus
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Idk what to believe anymore 💀

night cloud
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Well I can tell you the alleged hamas documents are probably real

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because they're boring as fuck.

night cloud
grand glacier
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Maybe Joeky isn’t as bad as I thought

trim hinge
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What a great hobby.

sullen bronze
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take him long enough

dreamy frost
grand glacier
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Apparently Isrrael allowed water back to Gaza can anyone confirm?

unkempt plume
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And yes it's true

unkempt plume
unkempt plume
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Idk if it's fake yet but just don't trust that video

dreamy frost
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What is the bot that even makes these

grand glacier
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Bing

fiery walrus
dreamy frost
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No swastikas

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This shouldn't need to be said here

unkempt plume
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Just send the link to the tweet
Tweeter embeds don't work lol

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Sometimes

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Sometimes they don't work

dreamy frost
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Don't link to swastikas

unkempt plume
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Damn

unkempt plume
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Jesus fucking Christ what's going on in the US

dreamy frost
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Damn we just out here

unkempt plume
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A 6 year old Palestinian kid was apparently stabbed 26 times by some 70 year old cause of the war here

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In Illinois

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He uh, died

dreamy frost
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Apprehensible. Kick that guy in the teeth

timber halo
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nuke illinois

unkempt plume
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Finally getting rid of Chicago

dreamy frost
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Nah the one thing that radicalizes me is hate crime

stiff pecan
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Why would you decide that because some group of people did something terrible that everyone that is similar must suffer

unkempt plume
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Chicago is in Illinois right

dreamy frost
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Like I sounded like a communist there for a while after george floyd

stiff pecan
dreamy frost
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I might make spicy and dicy jokes here and there but y'all know I would absolutely punch a nazi or white nationalist in the face

stiff pecan
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Can I time travel you to a few years ago when I was like 8

dreamy frost
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those kind of people do not deserve to feel safe in my country giga2

dreamy frost
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But I feel like its gonna be sad

unkempt plume
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I wish I could time travel

stiff pecan
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It’s not terrible like other ones but it is something

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So me and my mom went to Walmart when I was about 7 or 8 and while we were leaving I opened the car door and slightly bump the car next to us

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This dude comes out and yells at me for it and my mom tells him something like he’s just a kid then it gets racist

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My mom tells me to go in the car and I hear them arguing and he says this that I remember perfectly “ go back to were you came from”

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Then a employee comes and breaks it up and we leave

dreamy frost
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my stepdad did something similar to an Arab looking guy one time when I was kid

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We were on vacation in Denver going to see Batman Begins in IMAX and a depressed looking man with a brown complexion was pushing a shopping cart with a backpack in it and my stepfather said "Quick lets get out of here before this guy blows himself up"

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I give him shit for that now that Im an adult

dreamy frost
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By the way

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Well before I talk about another scenario, it's time to talk about the history of the modern Middle East. How did we g...

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Watch this video and you'll finally be up to speed on what I keep rambling about

grand glacier
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Colonialism

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That’s basically what Cody is talking about

dreamy frost
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Its also making a promise to the Hashemites and the not keeping it

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And letting the Saudis promote radical islam

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And today now they're all like "HUH HUH"

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Every country in the middle east with the exception of Arabia and Egypt are all colonial constructs

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I mean, Oman might be an exception too, but Oman used to own all of Zanzibar, and ports along the iranian coast.

fiery walrus
dreamy frost
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Yes, Ben Shapiro is not crazy he's just ick with his political, societal and religious attitude but you know he's not lying to make money off of his audience,

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i mean who would ever proudly admit they've never made their wife finish

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As if that is a culture war victory

fiery walrus
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He actually said that 😂

rustic crane
grand glacier
unkempt plume
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Damn

grand glacier
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It’s too late for me I’m afraid

rustic crane
dreamy frost
dreamy frost
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Israel has killed nearly 3,000 Palestinians so far in the Gaza strip bombing.

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They've killed more Palestinians than they ever did ISIS

sand robin
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Legitimately horrifying

dreamy frost
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A lot of children are going to grow up to be Jihadists.

sand robin
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Like incomphrensible

dreamy frost
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It's like the last 20 years of American occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan didn't teach Israel anything

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Wanger group in Syria getting their ass kicked by a bunch of farmers with AKs as well

rustic crane
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or my personal favorite engagement, the one where US special forces and allied rebels decimated Wagner troops while taking 1 casualty total

ember axle
rustic crane
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this was just a prelude to the war in Ukraine and we were too ignorant to see

dreamy frost
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No that was the result of Russia placing bounties on US troops

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Insane

rustic crane
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still an idiotic move

dreamy frost
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Damn Taylor Swift Updates stopped posting because she went to prison for refusing to serve the IDF

night cloud
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500 dead

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Ouch

sullen bronze
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U.S Media and government are wounding why there pro-palestine protest

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Germany and france are going taking huge L

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Later down the line

dreamy frost
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I found out Egypt didn't just lie about accepting gazans, Israel keeps bombing their checkpoint

unkempt plume
night cloud
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The videos I've seen posted were old

unkempt plume
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Yeah that's what I suspected

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I couldn't find the video again so I did not have a way to confirm that

unkempt plume
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I can't seem to find any evidence that the other ones are old

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I'll keep looking though

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Yeah I'm only seeing evidence for the PIJ misfire last year

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I genuinely can't find shit for the other videos

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One looks a bit reversed but I'm not sure

dreamy frost
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In Israel military conscription is mandatory for 2 years

unkempt plume
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Men is for 2 years and 6 months

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Wow I read and the ending is kind of bs

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Makes it seem like people here get fucking executed for refusing to serve

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Actually quite a lot of people do and get 0 reprecussions

dreamy frost
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If it was that easy I would expect more to do it

unkempt plume
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You'd be surprised at how people here want to serve in the army

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It's a moral obligation for lots of people

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A lot of people are even excited to serve

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I personally am not but that's just me

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GOD CAN PEOPLE STOP TALKING ONLY ABOUT THE VIDEO FROM 2022 I WANT INFO ON THE OTHER ONES TOO

unkempt plume
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Welp I still have found nothing about the other videos

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I suppose we'll know the answer soon enough

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I'm too tried to keep looking and to look at the most braindead tweets from both sides

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All I can say is that for now no one is officially responsible as both sides are claiming it's not them

unkempt plume
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Something a bit more important
Hezbollah said that tomorrow will be an "unprecedented" rage day

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I'm very much hoping they won't open a front in the north

timber halo
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Aint going to lie what Israel is doing rn is not good

night cloud
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GeoConfirmed ISR-PAL.

A missile launched by Palestinian Groups exploded mid-air and one of the pieces fell on the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital's yard.

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@unkempt plume I have always found GeoConfirmed to be fairly reliable

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Its not 100% definitive but like

unkempt plume
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I'm just worried for tomorrow

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I really don't want to be woken by a siren

unkempt plume
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I'm going to sleep

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Goodnight y'all

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Hopefully I won't wake up to booms

grand glacier
night cloud
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and well, everyone in the region rn.

dreamy frost
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Jordan canceled it's meeting with the US over the hospital bombing

dreamy frost
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Hamas flawlessly pulled the card from the same book as Bin Laden - Do a massive attack on a country and get a overreaction that's so severe that they get vlified into the dirt.

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The whole Arab world is against Israel now thanks to the hospital bombing

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Good job Netanyahou

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Good job

rustic crane
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well, when the next major war in American history breaks out, we know who to blame

dreamy frost
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The hospital was a Christian hospital

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Israel has fucked up

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LMAO

unkempt plume
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This entire place will go back to being a huge empty desert once this is over

night cloud
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What a surprise, it was a rocket after all

unkempt plume
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Israel is to blame, even if we're not

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Gas prices rising? Those damn jews are to blame right