Prehistoric Minecraft mods

[weak sandal]

well that's true

[unkempt quiver]

Like from what I know

The JP3 Spino sound files didn't burn down

It's more of a license issue

SO POOR FRONTIER LIKELY HAD TO RECREATE THE JP3 SPINO SOUNDBANK FROM SCRATCH, I COMMEND THEM FOR THAT

[weak sandal]

when you say no head tracking you mean their heads don't turn right?

[unkempt quiver]

Ye

[weak sandal]

sigh

1.7.10 F&A had head tracking

1.7.10

[unkempt quiver]

1.12.2 had head tracking

It's just this most recent port that lacks it

[weak sandal]

"Modern" F&A with a dedicated team has no head tracking

fucking hell

[unkempt quiver]

I think it may be because they're using baked animations now

[weak sandal]

This mod fell off so bad

[unkempt quiver]

Nobody fucking guessing what I used for Deinonychus

[weak sandal]

I saw a Smilodon try attacking a Pachyrhinosaurus. It died, obviously. Mojang has better combat AI than this

[weak sandal]

My first guess is a JWE pterosaur?

[unkempt quiver]

I do trust the F&A devs to eventually deliver, I still got rose tinted glasses for them

[weak sandal]

MEcha

[bleak coral]

I don't remember if we had plans for configs at one point, but because of how many mobs have interactions with each other or with craftables, it could take a while.

Also thanks, i am just one of the artists through, our entire team is awesome

[unkempt quiver]

There's a JWE 2 creature in there yeah

[weak sandal]

Allow me to shatter those glasses for you

IT'S A NEW TEAM

[bleak coral]

Also next update is peak

[weak sandal]

THAT'S why everything fell off so bad

[unkempt quiver]

Oh...

[weak sandal]

Here's what happened

[bleak coral]

We can all blame it on Alex in some way

[unkempt quiver]

Always blame Alex yeah

[weak sandal]

The old team got busy with life and lost motivation, especially after Alex branched off to do his own thing and got too busy with Alex's Caves to care

[unkempt quiver]

From the little I've heard is that Alex is to blame for a lot of shit

[weak sandal]

The result was a long hiatus until some dude called Sunconure announced Alex transferred ownership to him

Sun proceeded to recruit a bunch of people from the community to make up his new team

Sun eventually left for some reason

This means current F&A is being ran by fans who only care about getting all their favorite dinosaurs in the mod and not much else

[unkempt quiver]

Damn

[dark helm]

So we're not getting any updates to the whole time machine thing?

[weak sandal]

It's a recipe for extinction-level disaster and the only reason people like us who recognize the painful midness aren't a majority is because the MC mod dino community is so starved they'll take sloppy seconds riddled with maggots as a five star meal

[dark helm]

I've been waiting for that stuff be useful at all in some way since 1.7.10 smh

[weak sandal]

They'll probably add it eventually but it's not their priority lol

[dark helm]

Shame

[unkempt quiver]

I just wish they'd add sound ques for the critters that reuse sounds 😔

Even if the actual files are just copies, would allow me to have my fun

[weak sandal]

The coders are amateurs even in the eyes of amateurs too. No head tracking? No fucking head tracking? Dude every single mod has head tracking HOW DO YOU FORGET THAT

[unkempt quiver]

And before anyone asks, I've done sound work for a Minecraft mod before, didn't really like the direction of the mod though so I hopped off

[marsh glen]

honestly it sounds like prime real estate for an actual decent paleo mod

[weak sandal]

The flight AI for pterosaurs is such a catastrophic downgrade. So slow and clunky

[unkempt quiver]

I've found myself working better solo, unless it's for @stoic vine, that's always been a delight with the Jurassic Field Guide

[weak sandal]

That's where it gets even more depressing cause so many people are wrapped up in quirky mods that have something 'unique' going for them that they forget that people sometimes just want a decently-made standard dino mod with no bells and whistles

[stoic vine]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-pirates-of-the-caribbean-johnny-depp-salute-respect-gif-6427842759738305441

[weak sandal]

hurr durr Ulughbeghsaurus bet you've never heard of that one before!!

[stoic vine]

while we're at it
yall ain't ready for what mecha cooked up, next site update is very audio heavy thanks to this madlad

[unkempt quiver]

:D

[dark helm]

Holy shit that's real lmao

[unkempt quiver]

I GET IT PLEBB DON'T WORRY

[bleak coral]

Fun fact, we in the peculiar room had a WIP dinosaur dimension mod but we completely scrapped it

i think i can show off somethings

[unkempt quiver]

o

[weak sandal]

I've had an itch that has gone unscratched for years. Oh the pain

[marsh glen]

my "idea" is simple you dig up bones from biomes that are linked to irl formations identify the fossils then clone them

[dark helm]

I honestly kinda wish for some mods to be as basic as they used to be back in 1.7 from time to time.
Just make a mod that adds 5 cool dino enemies that spawn in the overworld, and that's that.

[storm mirage]

Oh was it Respawned?

[weak sandal]

I'm tired of all the dino dimension and natural spawning mods bro. Please just let us clone them again

that's like the entire point

[bleak coral]

Stomping grounds

Also i can't find any of the concept art

[dark helm]

Those exist?

[unkempt quiver]

Someone apparently made a Stomping Lands mod back in the day

[marsh glen]

yeah the jp larp was part of f&a fun

[bleak coral]

we had alot of cool ideas, like dinosaur carcasses, a black hole looking portal, and i wanted to add a boss based on vintage iguanodon

[dark helm]

Oh that's gorgeous

[unkempt quiver]

Oh that looks really cool!

[bleak coral]

Sadly it's dead

[unkempt quiver]

Like Iguandon in real life :(

[bleak coral]

yes, fossilized in Europe somewhere

[weak sandal]

I kind of want a dinosaur mod with a similar model style to Cobblemon in a sense

[unkempt quiver]

I just want F&A to add head tracking, add the missing sound ques, and add the critters they've got models for

Then it'll be my DREAM MC Dinosaur mod

[storm mirage]

Oh that’s what that was

[weak sandal]

clearly Minecrafty but not afraid to get some details in

[weak sandal]

missing sound cues sound like something they'll never even consider

hah get it, they sound like something?

[unkempt quiver]

Die.

[unkempt quiver]

I'm at a point of desperation of just hopping in their server and saying "Y'ALL WANT SOUNDS, HERE"

[weak sandal]

NO

Mecha, desperation is terrible but I assure you they do not DESERVE your help

You're talented so you should work with people who give a shit about that talent

[unkempt quiver]

The perfect theoretical F&A deserves my help :(

[weak sandal]

the key word is theoretical

[bleak coral]

Closest one was that dimension mod with a boss fight, sadly the dimension itself was a nothing burger

[unkempt quiver]

Man, I should not tell you about the one Minecraft mod I did work for

[bleak coral]

that and the old carboniferous mod, that one was fun

[weak sandal]

the only way F&A could be significantly improved would be if someone were to make a fork of the project, completely ditching the current team

[storm mirage]

Paleocraft?

[bleak coral]

no, it was something else

It had a clock boss

[unkempt quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-obi-wan-now-thats-a-name-ive-not-heard-in-along-time-gif-11814407

Real ones remember the Empirosaurus from Lots o' mobs

[weak sandal]

Also I'd like it if an F&A-esque mod took a few cues from PK. The mood system asking for prehistoric plants, dinosaurs breeding and making nests instead of just laying eggs in the middle of nowhere...

[bleak coral]

i remember when Jurassic craft was a thing

Before the drama

[unkempt quiver]

Funny you should say that, like half of the sounds I utilized in my personal F&A copy are from PK, Byron keeps cooking for PK I don't know how he does it

[storm mirage]

Oh yeah I played around with one of the patreon builds, it’s dog ass

[unkempt quiver]

No matter how bad F&A may have gotten, nothing beats the absolue dog ass that is Jurassicraft

Doesn't it straight up break MC terms and conditions?

[bleak coral]

probably

Jurassic craft now lives on in that awful marketplace project

[unkempt quiver]

Yeah fuck Jurassicraft, which btw, I have a very funny piece of information about it

[storm mirage]

Wait huh????

[unkempt quiver]

They 100000% went through my JWE 2 sound videos and nicked sounds from there, I apologize for indirectly helping them

[bleak coral]

Theres a new JWR Add-on

and the models are uhhh

[storm mirage]

Oh that

[unkempt quiver]

Ah yes the official Universal endorsed addon

I don't bash those addons, they are straight up the only reason I have the film Microceratus sounds in my possession

Still waiting to get my hands on a cracked version of the new addong, they got some Rebirth sounds in there

[marsh glen]

never liked the hyper realistic style, Minecraft mobs work best when they are rough abstractions of the things they are based on

[bleak coral]

Yeah they have a tendency to look really off

Almost like a Roblox model

It can be done correctly through, i know an artist that is a master at doing it, hold up

[unkempt quiver]

@stoic vine I FOUND IT, HAVE A JWR TITANOSAURUS SOUND FILE

The sheer insanity of where I've found certain canon sounds

[storm mirage]

Oh wait did ya’ll hear the Dawn Era is back

[weak sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-goody-the-lion-king-scar-gif-15483538

[storm mirage]

and I don’t mean the Bedrock addon I mean the actual Xish led mod

[stoic vine]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-offerman-ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-chill-headphones-gif-8288999

music to my ears right here

[unkempt quiver]

Honestly, if F&A gets to a pretty stable place with the sound ques, head tracking and some more creature additions, I wouldn't mind sharing my sound resource pack and helping to start something like this up

Because Plebb is right, this would go incredibly hard

[weak sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/please7tv-please-beg-pray-hope-gif-3860103425950934673

It sucks that the only thing I can do is texture 2D items

[unkempt quiver]

I've got an idea

[weak sandal]

If I could code or model I'd 100% try to start a "modern F&A"

[unkempt quiver]

#1415034062703165654 message

Idea has been made

[marsh glen]

mood kindred

[weak sandal]

Fascinating

[unkempt quiver]

Interesting

That shouldn't be the case

[marsh glen]

the modeling isnt that bad if you use blockbench

[weak sandal]

True

But nah I've seen this song and dance multiple times

[marsh glen]

ik

[weak sandal]

"Oh wouldn't it be nice if x, y, z" for a mod

That doesn't end well 😭

[bleak coral]

By the indominator

[weak sandal]

INDOMINATOR IS SO GOOD

[marsh glen]

it starts off all peachy then nobody actually does the work

[weak sandal]

The only way a mod can truly flourish is if the person who starts it is the coder

[marsh glen]

Minecraft is legit spaghetti code

[weak sandal]

that too

[bleak coral]

Notch made sure to have as much spaghetti code as possible

So much so that Minecraft can't handle mobs larger than the ravager

[weak sandal]

Mojang totally has the fundings to like bring in a professional team to quickly rewrite Minecraft into a far more comprehensible codebase but they don't

[unkempt quiver]

Plebb, you've been chosen

As a test subject

[marsh glen]

honestly its not a particular person or groups fault, minecraft at its start was a hobby project indie game, of course the code going to be janky because nobody expected it to be the 15+ year old ongoing actively developed gaming institution it is.

[stoic vine]

goodness gracious this is insane

[marsh glen]

the thing is at that point you dont do that because its more complicated to untangle the mess than it is to just remake the game from scratch with a coherent codebase and an easy way to add stuff to it

i think the term is tech debt

[weak sandal]

Minecraft 2

[unkempt quiver]

I'll be genuinely shocked if a Minecraft 2 happens in my lifetime

[storm mirage]

I feel like it’s bound to happen like others have said the code is a jumbled mess and eventually it’ll just keep amassing until it’s some eldritch horror

[bleak coral]

Their T.rex is also godly

[stoic vine]

pics or didn't happen

[bleak coral]

@stoic vine

[stoic vine]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmm-amazed-food-reaction-yum-unbelievable-gif-13615077130894613573

[storm mirage]

Wonder whatever happened to that mod, I don’t remember ever seeing anything being coded in

[bleak coral]

Genuinely mesmerizing

There's also a tylosaurus but it crashed my discord

[weak sandal]

Indominator’s mod suffered the same fate as any other

No coders

[stoic vine]

this quality is worth of a game of its own rather than a mine mod tbvh

[storm mirage]

Yeah I figured

[bleak coral]

Minecraft is pretty much an engine at this point so it can work either way

Just look at the in-development mod called Clinker, made by Cappin(AKA the Minecraft code wizard)

everything Cappin does breaks my mind because of how wild it is

[stoic vine]

it really has been giving that vibe lately especially with the marketplace addons practically being games of their own

[long matrix]

Holy shit what is this from

We need a prehistoric mod that actually uses Minecraft’s archaeology system (brushing suspicious sand/gravel)

Like how cobblemon did its fossil Pokémon

[bleak coral]

Some people have even completely revamped Minecraft as a game using mods

[ancient notch]

Jurassic Reborn mod port trailer is out!

[patent socket]

Well... I just sent you context now, via DMs.

Alex had trusted me with the mod, yes, but primarily because he simply couldn't find the time to continue.

I also had to force a transition to various new dependencies, because LLibrary is fucking garbage and was clearly not being maintained past 1.12.2

And some other mods had basically taken the roles of ones made for older versions as well

[errant thunder]

name mod?

[modern ridge]

random but unusual prehistory 2 is a pretty cool mod which I actually found out about recently

[storm mirage]

I’ve grown an intense fondness for UP2 as of late

[weak sandal]

what is that

Shringasaurus?

[storm mirage]

Yeah

[storm mirage]

Cetotherium

Evil screenshots

[stoic vine]

ah yes my fav mob, water

[weak sandal]

UP2 is not my cup of tea personally

[storm mirage]

concepts for Auk, Struthiomimus, Livyatan, Miragaia, Metriacanthosaurus, Castroides, and I can’t remember the shark

[weak sandal]

what the FUCK is that Livyatan

why are the eyes in the center of the entire body horizontally

[storm mirage]

Idk I vibe with the more wackier art style

Crazy to think the upcoming 2.0 port update has like 20+ mobs thus far

[weak sandal]

I don't think it's even the wackiness that I dislike

idk

But anyway, it's not really my cup of tea but whatever

[storm mirage]

Oh yeah no it was smth else I remember us talking about it beforehand, I can respect that

[weak sandal]

I think it's something JAPPA said once

That the model complexity needs to increase as the size of the mob does too

That shringa for instance could really use a second tail piece

[storm mirage]

Wait I’m pretty sure it does

Yeah no it doesn’t but it’s not as short as it looks

[weak sandal]

Also that Struthi looks to have a stick for its neck, which I think is a shame because there's a lot of animation potential with ornithomimids cause they tend to already get goofy characterization to begin with, but the neck's going to be stiff

[weak sandal]

grainiest screenshots I've ever seen 😭 🙏

[storm mirage]

These were taken from a livestream with some really was quality lmao

[weak sandal]

a more flexible neck could synergize well with animations that vibe with the wackiness but they need to be vanilla+ I guess

is it really that difficult for someone to go and make F&A but with higher res textures and not a trillion dependencies

That's all I want out of dino mods gang 😭

[storm mirage]

Which F&A, classic, new classic, or the 1.18 refresh?

[weak sandal]

huh

New classic refers to the latest versions before the new team ported it right?

That mod definitely had a vision. Their dinosaur comfort requirements didn't work but if they had worked, WOO it would've been one hell of a park builder

[weak sandal]

They even began experimenting a bit with AI, like letting dippy eat from trees, Meganeura perching on walls, Pteranodon using water to fish, Mosasaurus leaping to catch prey

[weak sandal]

second image

[storm mirage]

Wait they don’t do that anymore?

That’s lame

[weak sandal]

I haven't played the new versions so idk

They were starting to cook up something and then it died

And then it got revived for like the 3rd time

[bleak coral]

To this day they don't know how to do good textures

[weak sandal]

The lackluster textures kill it for me

Someone needs to publish a resource pack

[bleak coral]

have you ever seen that one time they announced jappa style textures