💽Programming Chat v2

[spare quartz]

and your research on the jvm consists of..?

[timid quartz]

also I said included in every major JVM distribution

[spare quartz]

Epsilon is included in every major JVM distribution yes

[timid quartz]

so that rules out weird things like whatever GraalVM does

[spare quartz]

GraalVM is a project of OpenJDK

which is a project of the OpenJDK team w/ Oracle

[timid quartz]

not a major distro though

[spare quartz]

again

[timid quartz]

erm I just know

[spare quartz]

Epsilon is in every major JVM distribution

and it is entirely antithetical to whatever you're spewing

[timid quartz]

ok epsilon is just a noop

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

literally does nothing

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

like your brain in your skull

[spare quartz]

"all horses are the same color" ass argument

[timid quartz]

this is why coding sucks

[spare quartz]

you should get into bayachao lore

https://fixupx.com/conecollects/status/1950657496344871155?s=46

conecollects (@conecollects)

a toxic pea kept killing me in garden warfare so I hung him

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[timid quartz]

even worse

[spare quartz]

japanese mistranslation on twitter

i am begging for the source text

it pains me

how can two completely different translations exist

[timid quartz]

might learn elixir idk

[spare quartz]

if it makes you yap about programming pls do

[timid quartz]

BEAM >? CLR >>> JVM

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/slJmsbGtu8Y?list=RDMM8PsHvdL1VUk

[timid quartz]

All outclassed by Rust of course

but

[timid quartz]

ughhh there’s nothing interesting to make thoughhhhh

[spare quartz]

pls invent an AVC decoder

i will sell my organs to you if you can do that

because to my knowledge that is a very hard thing to do.

[timid quartz]

sounds dumb…

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-meme-trunk-monkey-car-gif-18744524

i bet with cerainty you won't be able to do it

[timid quartz]

yeah you’re probably right

if the person who specializes in binary formats (you) can’t then

[spare quartz]

okay well

thats cause whatever moon runes ISO used to write the specification make NO sense

(and cause the specification costs like 300 CHF forcing you to pirate it but whatever)

god my hands are so cold

[timid quartz]

binary formats are soo booooring

It’s just the same thing over and over again

So tedious

[spare quartz]

no

if AVC was a conventional format yes it would be boring

but AVC is streaming format and it is incredibly incredibly dynamic

not only is there spatial compression but temporal too

[timid quartz]

Can’t even find any specifications

[spare quartz]

what are your search terms

because AVC is by definition a specification

[timid quartz]

h.254 specification

[spare quartz]

https://www.itu.int/rec/t-rec-h.264

here

[timid quartz]

Oops 264 whatever

[spare quartz]

WAIT ITS A FREE SPEC NOW?

[timid quartz]

just maintain pointers to things

[spare quartz]

god i could've sworn it was paid

wait

[timid quartz]

have fun making a decoder then

[spare quartz]

no i was right

sigh. the ISO specification is a lot of money

the ITU-T one is not

[spare quartz]

you first

use your rust skills

[timid quartz]

you first

your Brian works

[spare quartz]

my brian does not work

and im preoccupied with http and breadmod

[timid quartz]

brain

[timid quartz]

Then just use VLC

[spare quartz]

?

why would i need vlc

[timid quartz]

https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

[spare quartz]

okay

that doesnt answer my question

[timid quartz]

uhm to play your mp4 files

[spare quartz]

... i dont need to do that

and i can just use a browser

[timid quartz]

you want a decoder though

[spare quartz]

vlc isnt a decoder

[timid quartz]

a decoder takes an AVC encoded file and decodes it to be played, correct?

[spare quartz]

no

a decoder takes some binary format and represents it as another binary format for processing by another... process

vlc is a viewer

[timid quartz]

but it has a decoder within it

[spare quartz]

it may have a decoder, but it cannot be used tangibly in any way

so i dont know what point you're trying to make

[timid quartz]

what do you want an AVC decoder for

[spare quartz]

i do not need an avc decoder right now

so nothing

[timid quartz]

🤓

[spare quartz]

but in the future it may be useful for file conversions using ByteParser and alike

[timid quartz]

sounds dumb

[spare quartz]

LUUCUS

HES STILL ALIVE!!!

[timid quartz]

https://www.videolan.org/vlc/

[spare quartz]

please stop sending me the vlc link

[timid quartz]

wait oops

[timid quartz]

http://jcodec.org/

[spare quartz]

jcodec.org は安全な接続をサポートしていません
通常はサイトに安全に接続できますが、今回は安全な接続を使用できませんでした。攻撃者がネットワーク接続を傍受するか変更しようとしている可能性があります。この警告の詳細

[timid quartz]

Translate

[spare quartz]

jcodec does not have a valid certificate

[timid quartz]

oh lol

too bad!

you will use jcodec and like it

[spare quartz]

i didnt know you were such a fan of java

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/jcodec/jcodec

[spare quartz]

im starting to like you more!

https://tenor.com/view/kotlin-java-programmer-meme-average-kotlin-enjoyer-average-java-fan-gif-21761248

[timid quartz]

Nah I’m only giving you suggestions that fit within your (terrible) preferences of coding language

That is…as you would say, “Kotlin/JVM”

[spare quartz]

well im not sure why you think suggestions would matter to me

im not allowed to use libraries

[timid quartz]

ooo I wave my magic wand and I allow you to use libraries

[spare quartz]

you should wave your maigc wand and spawn more bayachao art

or kiro art

or rosetto art

[timid quartz]

I’m going to wave my magic Noelle and snowgrave you

[spare quartz]

that's animal abuse

[timid quartz]

do you have any better ideas for coding

or have they all been used up

nothing good left to code

[spare quartz]

is there anything i could say that you would listen to

[timid quartz]

maybe if you didn’t program on the JVM or with Ada

in all honesty tho idk

[spare quartz]

OK. well

if you want something simple

and well i dont know how capable rusts raw sockets are but

try making your own network client that aquires an IP thru DHCP and send a packet through it

[timid quartz]

mm that could be neat

Yknow what’s better

[spare quartz]

おまえが殺す

[timid quartz]

Cat

And yknow what’s better than cat

Gaming

[rustic vine]

fun question for y'all. how long do you think it takes to run java -version for a debug build of the jvm?
important note: this is an arm32 build being run under qemu-arm-static

[spare quartz]

i dunno

[rustic vine]

40s lol

[spare quartz]

ow

[rustic vine]

yea I was thinking like 5s

😢

[spare quartz]

i dunno how qemu runs in user mode

nor what debug mode entails (or arm32)

[timid quartz]

I’ve got it

You should play league of legends

[spare quartz]

not my type of game

[timid quartz]

Could become your type of game

[timid quartz]

Forge >

Although the Forge dev wouldn’t like you cause you’re making mods in Kotlin

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz apparently you can get banned from the forge server for talking about modloaders that arent forge?

based

[spare quartz]

what

why

[timid quartz]

I was reading the Neoforge manifesto and it mentioned something about getting banned for taking about Fabric

honestly the forge dev may be a little justified for being a prick

[spare quartz]

justified for what

[timid quartz]

idk I've heard Lex or whatever his name is is a massive prick

[spare quartz]

correct

but why is he justified

[timid quartz]

which is why neoforge split off

[rustic vine]

hes justified cuz aera HATES coding!!!!

[timid quartz]

if you're constantly getting bugged by people not reading docs, not trying to figure things out themselves first, coming into your server to ask about a modloader that isnt even your project, etc

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare quartz]

then just redirect them or dont reply

its not that hard to have a backbone

[rustic vine]

wait he doesn't have a backbone?

so hes invertebrate?

[spare quartz]

yeah he's one of those blobfish

[rustic vine]

wth trhats crazy

[timid quartz]

after working so hard to reverse engineer minecraft to support mods

[spare quartz]

lex didn't do that

[rustic vine]

aera did u have to do drug testing for ur internship

[timid quartz]

and to maintain said project

[timid quartz]

r u saying im high rn or smth

[spare quartz]

https://github.com/cpw

[rustic vine]

no like a lot of companies will require that

no?

[spare quartz]

this guy did

but i hate him

cause he's doing really bad things to the jvm

[timid quartz]

like?

also then why use neoforge cause he split off neoforge

[rustic vine]

cuz I just had to do one the other day and they sent me to the most run down sketchy lookin place ever

[spare quartz]

who are you replying to_

[timid quartz]

also like if this guy made forge then could he just have banned lex?

[timid quartz]

u

[rustic vine]

he never replies to me its ok

[timid quartz]

I did not no

[spare quartz]

he's completely destroyed the fundamentals of java IO and java class loading

[rustic vine]

huh ok

I thought everyone do that

[rustic vine]

perfect

just the guy I need

[spare quartz]

im pretty sure lex is the owner of the project

[timid quartz]

yeah me too im surprised tbh

[timid quartz]

sounds like a great person, also this sounds like nerd shit how does it affect me

[spare quartz]

how does it affect you

i just left my own comment in and you inquired

[timid quartz]

idk how does it affect me you're the smart one

how does it affect end users of the jvm

[spare quartz]

by making IO accesses wrt the jar (such as resources) a PITA

[timid quartz]

u should fork the jvm and fix it

[spare quartz]

and if you do any advanced class loading (such as for natives) the class loader will give you headaches

... what does forking the jvm have to do with anything

this is an issue from misusing the stdlib

[timid quartz]

u said u dont like what this guy is doing so fork it and fix it

[spare quartz]

i cant believe i have to repeat myself but the stdlib and its users are not the jvm

[timid quartz]

but u said hes doing rlly bad things to the jvm

u didnt say to the stdlib

[spare quartz]

sigh. yes

i did say that

you are very gotcha-y

[timid quartz]

u are 2

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

checkmate liberal

[timid quartz]

this thing is corrupting your brain

ruby white house

also if u dont like this guy

why use neoforge

[spare quartz]

explain the alternative

[timid quartz]

uhmmmm

• possibly partially justified dev (forge)
• poorer quality docs (fabric) (since when have u minded bad docs anyways u literally program in Ada where the source code is the docs)
• quilt (lmao)

• diy

[spare quartz]

• forge uses cpw
• fabric probably uses cpw (and has terrible api)
• quilt is fabric

• fourth option is classified

[timid quartz]

ok but forge no longer uses any new cpw

[spare quartz]

it still uses cpw

[timid quartz]

well

ill be waiting for breadmodloader then

[spare quartz]

its called microbrewery

but thats classified

[timid quartz]

🤓

api will probably be worse than quilt

and youll be forced into kotlin 🤢

[spare quartz]

actually its design model is completely independent of minecraft

[timid quartz]

builds minecraft modloader
independent of minecraft

[spare quartz]

runtime modification

the project works by loading a java instrumentation agent and redefining classes dynamically based on the local minecraft version

this lets us do agnostic operations

sort of like a HAL

[timid quartz]

HAL? what are you gonna do next eject me out of an airlock?

[spare quartz]

i wish

[timid quartz]

this sounds truly horrible

the horrors of the JVM

[spare quartz]

I'm sorry Bayachao. I'm afriad I CAN do that

[timid quartz]

how will anyone even develop mods if the classes get redefined when minecraft launches

[spare quartz]

what

what are you talking about

[timid quartz]

if ur classes change at runtime

how tf

will anyone be able to make mods to run on your loader

[spare quartz]

the mod classes dont change you doorknob

the mod calls methods defined by the loader to do stuff in minecraft

the methods will integrate into minecraft based on its version

[timid quartz]

yes so like

if youve got like

mod class doing microshittery.functionABC(param1, param2)

but oh no at runtime the version is 1.69.420 so .functionABC() actually has 3 params now

because it got redefined

[spare quartz]

functionABC is not a direct call to minecraft

[timid quartz]

right but it's a call to your loader

and what if whatever functionABC does needs a third param to call minecraft effectively

[spare quartz]

i said "sort of like a HAL" because it exposes a common interface the loader will try its best to replicate in minecraft

[timid quartz]

but it didn't need it in prev versions

[spare quartz]

it wont

data components are a new thing

if you wanted to develop them for 1.12.2 you wouldn't use them or nbts

[timid quartz]

what is a data component

[spare quartz]

you'd use a minecraft-agnostic structure the loader will dynamically change to an nbt or data component at runtime

[spare quartz]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Data_component_format

example

[timid quartz]

i just dont see how you're gonna have a common interface

when that interface might change based on what version it needs to itnerface with

[spare quartz]

well again

how do you think HALs work

[timid quartz]

idk what a hal is

[spare quartz]

hardware abstraction layer (did they really not teach you this in os class?)

take a socket on a computer for example

a computer might not have a wifi dongle, but it might have an ethernet cable, or a dial-up line

the socket is not a 1:1 representation of these methods of communication

the OS routes (and transmits) the data based on the interface

[timid quartz]

trying to think of an example

ok ok so...say currently to spawn an entity, you call something like .spawnEntity(type, position) in minecraft

so your loader abstracts that

and you have the modder provide the type and position

because they need to provide that

what if suddenly, in the next minecraft version, Minecraft requires you to provide rotation as well

[spare quartz]

the loader must then add rotation to the function signature

(id preferably use a data class though)

[timid quartz]

so then your common interface has changed

[spare quartz]

yes

what of it

[timid quartz]

so how does your loader handle that with the dynamic instrumentation bit

[spare quartz]

by backporting the feature

as you might've noticed that becomes an uphill battle the further back you go

such is the life of a loader

[timid quartz]

because I imagine one of your goals is to not have to release a new loader version for each minecraft version

[spare quartz]

no it definitely is

dynamically modifying code is incredibly brittle

and minecrafts code is very versatile

[timid quartz]

so I was getting confused on how you were going to handle having a common interface (that could end up changing) for developers to use while also being able to account for every version of MC that you support

[spare quartz]

all mod loaders today have different versions for each minecraft version, but the plan is to have a loader that can simultaneously backport to versions behind it

instead of needing to hardcode to a specific minecraft class which could change in the next

porting to versions ahead of the loader would be impossible

[timid quartz]

so with my example what you'd do is release say Microbrewery v1.2.0 that has the backport, and only v1.2.0 would support the version of MC that added the change

but you could still use v1.2.0 for older versions

[spare quartz]

yes, and the versions behind it

yes

[timid quartz]

ok I follow

[spare quartz]

this is somewhat taking a page out of the JVMs book

where it can load all class files behind it

[timid quartz]

(the horrors)

[spare quartz]

but not ahead of it

[spare quartz]

scary fact

in 32,733 years we will run out of CLASS file versions

[timid quartz]

not soon enough

needs to be 0.32733 years

[spare quartz]

(unless they start using the minor field again which brings it up to about 70,000 years)

[timid quartz]

the jvm cant run out of class file versions fast enough

the faster they run out the faster it gets put in the grave for good

[spare quartz]

this is based upon the fact that the current version is 69 (i think)

and a new jdk is out every 6 months

major/minor version fields are both a u2

https://fixupx.com/Not_Prasar/status/1950701763738361948

Pracar (@Not_Prasar)

Cobalt is the kind of tool that is in beautiful box but the tool itself doesn’t work most of the time
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ezgif is the only online application that i like

[timid quartz]

cobalt got too big and then yt blocked them

[timid quartz]

nice

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/hUunR4r2E9k?list=RDGMEMhCgTQvcskbGUxqI4Sn2QYw

[timid quartz]

the only acceptable CLASS version

420 as well

[spare quartz]

let me see how long until 420

175.5 years

[spare quartz]

BSL Generalized Protocol Serialization

PrimitiveSchema<TYPE>((GeneralReader) -> TYPE, (GeneralWriter, TYPE) -> ())
RecordSchema<CLASS>((TYPE) -> CLASS, Pair<Schema<TYPE>, (CLASS) -> TYPE>)
Schema<TYPE> = RecordSchema<TYPE> | PrimitiveSchema<TYPE>

minecraft serialization gave me this idea

[lone sky]

@spare quartz hey atp i might get another phone soon

should i update my current one to liquid ass for experimentation purposes

[spare quartz]

sure

[lone sky]

noted

[timid quartz]

I like your funny words magic man

[spare quartz]

my power went out for a split second

🙏

おはようございます！☀️
今夜21時から５周年記念配信やります！この日のためにいろいろ準備しました！ぜひリアタイで観に来てくださると嬉しいです！よろしくお願いします〜！

[lone sky]

already seen, sir.

[timid quartz]

might do this in Rust and Zig

[spare quartz]

progress to resume when i wake up tomorrow..

[timid quartz]

Simple solution: 8L of soda

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/whirow-nvm-ur-content-sucks-arcade-assassin-funny-meme-gif-1223989353800674009

[spare quartz]

Stoppp ittt

[timid quartz]

8L of soda!!!!

[spare quartz]

@lone sky

I need

Rosetto

Post haste

[timid quartz]

You need 16L of soda

[spare quartz]

I need rosetto aera

Send me the old Japanese woman’s fursona

[timid quartz]

I will send you like $50 to buy 32L of soda

So you can drink it and stay up

[spare quartz]

You will send me $50 to send to a 40 year old

To draw her own fursona

And send it back to me

[timid quartz]

ok fine I will send you 32L of soda directly

[timid quartz]

How would I send you anything anyways

[spare quartz]

Mailing it

[timid quartz]

I could transfer Monero to you

[spare quartz]

Duh

[timid quartz]

No then you’d see my return address

[spare quartz]

Just

Use a fake address??

They’re not gonna scrutinize a fake return address

I always answer on mail

[timid quartz]

I’ll use your address for the destination and the return

[spare quartz]

Ok.

[timid quartz]

But I don’t wanna know it anyways

[spare quartz]

Know what

[timid quartz]

it

[spare quartz]

What is “it”

[timid quartz]

you must not know

[spare quartz]

Didn’t they teach you to be descriptive in high school science

there is no “it” aera.

you are not my beloved Kotlin lambdas.

[timid quartz]

Didn’t they teach you to read back 10 messages for context

[spare quartz]

WHAT IS “It!!!”

[timid quartz]

behated*

[timid quartz]

your address dummy

[spare quartz]

Ugh

[timid quartz]

go either chug soda or sleep for 14 hours

[spare quartz]

It’s public information stupid

10607 Green Timber Dr San Antonio TX 78223

Send me anthrax or crap

[timid quartz]

no?

[spare quartz]

no?

[timid quartz]

there’s nowhere I could look to correlate your name to your address

[spare quartz]

GitHub

[timid quartz]

why do you have that on your GitHub

please learn opsec

[spare quartz]

Because why not

My dad was an intelligence analyst

I know enough about OPSEC

However, I know enough to know I’m in a good condition not to be sent bombs

[timid quartz]

my GH isn’t even correlated to my real identity

I should honestly not have correlated this discord account to people I know IRL

[spare quartz]

Yeah yeah cause you’re lame

[timid quartz]

cause I care about random internet dwellers not knowing who I am irl

[spare quartz]

mmmhmmm

it’s cause of the lameness

[timid quartz]

incl YOU

[spare quartz]

not including me!

[timid quartz]

hf when some guy from 4chan mails you a pipe bomb

[spare quartz]

who tf is a “4 can”

[timid quartz]

you don’t know what 4chan is

[spare quartz]

no I don’t know what a “4 ban” is

[timid quartz]

I leave googling “4chan” as an exercise to you

[spare quartz]

do you actually believe im that ignorant

[timid quartz]

idk you do lack many brain cells

[spare quartz]

Aera I’ve been on the internet longer than you

As unfortunate as that fact is

[timid quartz]

this is probably false

provably*

[spare quartz]

What age did you start using the internet

[timid quartz]

like 11

[spare quartz]

personally i was 2

[timid quartz]

ok but you didn’t understand what you were doing

[spare quartz]

I did

[timid quartz]

ergo you really started using it when you were like 7

[spare quartz]

I stole my dads phone and went on whatever I could find

[spare quartz]

Funny

[lone sky]

YEAH OKAY

[spare quartz]

That’s when I started programming!!!

[lone sky]

BAYACHAO.

[spare quartz]

I WISH

[timid quartz]

and things have gotten worse ever since

[spare quartz]

dude if I found bayachao earlier I probably wouldn’t even be here

😭

[timid quartz]

ok

[lone sky]

REAL 💔

[timid quartz]

?ban

[upbeat badge]

**Command:** ?ban

Description: Ban a member, optional time limit
Cooldown: 3 seconds
Usage:
?ban [user] [limit] [reason]
?ban save [user] [limit] [reason]
?ban noappeal [user] [limit] [reason]
Example:
?ban bean making bugs
?ban save gin 2d needs to calm down
?ban noappeal piguy dont come back

[spare quartz]

omg not like that you daft punk

[timid quartz]

your wish is my command

[lone sky]

sybau 💔

[spare quartz]

ever heard of the butterfly effect

(he hasn’t cause his brain rusted away)

[lone sky]

trvth nvke

[spare quartz]

KOHAKU

🥺

[lone sky]

ok yeah you're going insane

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351598237127151708/1399632293294903327/attachment.gif

[spare quartz]

I NEED THEM

I NEED THEM.

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-delta-rune-kris-kris-dreemurr-soul-gif-7988383559227812185

[spare quartz]

actually

that would be terrible

if I found bayachao first I probably wouldn’t even be a programmer

I’d be good at art 👻

Horrifying

[lone sky]

aerasto gonna say some stupid shit in

3

2

1

[spare quartz]

なんで

[lone sky]

@timid quartz cmon say your stupid though already :((

[timid quartz]

it’s what happens after you get banned and then unfunny leaves and this channel dies

[lone sky]

thank god 🙏

heat death of aerasto

[timid quartz]

wrong reply

[spare quartz]

okay but why would I get banned!!!

I am a shining beacon of rule following

[lone sky]

HEY

SO AM I

[timid quartz]

Anyways

Rust has improved my mental capacity by 74% and my mental throughput by 53%

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/headphones-disintegrate-fall-off-headphones-falling-off-split-in-half-gif-18103535869451734362

[timid quartz]

If I could run Rust directly on my brain

The gains would be immeasurable

[lone sky]

you would be a lot less stupid honestly

since you will be on factory settings

HOPEFULLY.

[timid quartz]

Whereas I’ve been measuring and Kotlin has actually corrupted your brain by 187%

[spare quartz]

of course, what aerasto did not mention, is that these values were corrupted by poor multi threading.

the true numbers are -128%, and -128%.

[timid quartz]

And bayachao has further degraded it by 565%

[lone sky]

%565%

okay kid

[timid quartz]

kys

[spare quartz]

WHO ARE YOU CALLING KID

[lone sky]

i'm callign the 9 foot tall monolith a kid

[spare quartz]

Unfunnylad you’re the youngest here 😭

[lone sky]

smh.

yeah but at least my brain is not a mush.

unlike BOTH of you.

[timid quartz]

BRO WEONF REPLY

[spare quartz]

ROSETTO

[timid quartz]

I am a human Adonis

[spare quartz]

🥺

[lone sky]

ummmm

there is comments I will make. one second

[timid quartz]

idek who she is

[spare quartz]

OSTERproject

the composer behind the music has a fursona

(probably caused by bayachao?? who knows)

[timid quartz]

Oh

That demonic creature is

gotcha

Wow I can’t believe a nobody like bayachao knows the person behind OSTERproject

[lone sky]

"a nobody"

holy shit!! aerasto mentioned???

[spare quartz]

What’re you on about!!!

[timid quartz]

kys

[spare quartz]

bayachao found osterproject presumably from their 2007 miracle paint video

and they’re friends now

[timid quartz]

this is why coding sucks

[spare quartz]

nah

this is why you’re so young compared to bayachao

true Chad

[timid quartz]

good

she’s an old hag

[spare quartz]

bayachao has truly matured

while you are still in baby mode

[timid quartz]

I’m the real gigachad

[spare quartz]

oh yeah and there’s kiro too

I have no idea how kiro and the other two met

[timid quartz]

ばやちゃお more like ばあちゃん

[spare quartz]

ゲイ

[timid quartz]

CAUSE SHES AN OLD HAG smh

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[spare quartz]

Japanese birth rates dropped cause they knew with bayachao it was perfection

so they stopped

[timid quartz]

fr tho it’s really funny

Japanese people look 20 until they’re like 45

And then suddenly they look 80

[spare quartz]

OSTER IS ALMOST 45!!!

✝️

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-dog-rage-bait-meme-gif-9175559818513666389

[spare quartz]

bayachao is only like 25

kiro is 1 year old

[timid quartz]

who is Kiro

[spare quartz]

the yellow dog

[timid quartz]

Bayachao and her “husband”’s devil spawn?

[spare quartz]

not racist

[timid quartz]

Oh

[spare quartz]

No that’s Mr Po

Also why do you have it in quotes :sob;

[lone sky]

aera just say you're racist at heart

[spare quartz]

she is married bro

[lone sky]

❤️

[spare quartz]

and then you have ああああ

[timid quartz]

supposedly

[spare quartz]

FYM SUPPOSEDLY

[lone sky]

there's

video proof

💔

[spare quartz]

they have wedding photos 💔

[timid quartz]

fabricated

created by generative ai

[lone sky]

ok kid

[spare quartz]

drunkchao

[timid quartz]

I will get my second phone number unbanned from Telegram

and then it’s over

[timid quartz]

evil demon

[spare quartz]

aerasto when he sees good and purity in the world

(he must spread the demonic plague of rust and “DONT CODE!!!”)

[lone sky]

aerasto i will make sure to block you immediately

✝️

[spare quartz]

NOOOO

SHES ALMOST DEAD

WAAAAHHH

[timid quartz]

The Holy Rust empire and the enlightened philosophy of “stop coding and do something good with your life”

[lone sky]

just say you hate everything bro

[timid quartz]

bro I wasn’t even gonna add you

[lone sky]

💔

[lone sky]

@spare quartz give me their username asap

to block

✅

[spare quartz]

I don’t have it…

[lone sky]

:(

[spare quartz]

and i will kill both of you if you fight

[timid quartz]

Yeah the only people who can fight are me and ATP

[spare quartz]

EW

NO

NO YAOI

@lone sky 死ぬ！！！

死ぬ！！！！！！！

[lone sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351598237127151708/1399632293294903327/attachment.gif

[timid quartz]

unfunny I saw that too

die

[lone sky]

I WILL USE LETILE FORCE

😡

[timid quartz]

go watch Deltarune memes

[lone sky]

no

i will go yearn for bayachao

[spare quartz]

Oh my goooddd

[spare quartz]

she’s so cuteeee

[timid quartz]

Have you had your 64L of soda yet

[spare quartz]

No

I’m waiting for my bucket of chicken

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/mmmm-mmm-mmmmm-cat-eating-gif-22541105

[spare quartz]

have you had your injection of Chaostrogen yet

[timid quartz]

nope

I only need pure 100% basedosterone

[timid quartz]

Anyways aren’t you going to bed or something

[spare quartz]

I’m on bed stupid

[timid quartz]

now throw phone across room and sleep

[spare quartz]

No

Phone must charge

And I must stare at photos of Rossetto

[timid quartz]

Drop phone on floor then

[spare quartz]

Noooo

Rosetto

[timid quartz]

You should be the next Neuralink implantee

so you can get demonic furry images streamed directly to your brain

[lone sky]

@timid quartz i feel like things

took on a weird route

[timid quartz]

gg

[flint belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

Closed Circuit Television

[timid quartz]

IP cameras

[flint belfry]

Yesssss

[pastel tinsel]

❤️

[lone sky]

why is ralsei blushing

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

[proud creek]

🤨

[lone sky]

oh look

it's the guy who posted the trampoline gif

☣️☣️

[proud creek]

[lone sky]

ok kid

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351598237127151708/1399632293294903327/attachment.gif

[proud creek]

https://tenor.com/view/krakos-kratos-irl-viking-gif-3496242012319339703

[lone sky]

kratos messi

[timid quartz]

horrid

[spare quartz]

:<

[timid quartz]

minecrap

[timid quartz]

in all seriousness it looks neat

never rlly got into Minecraft modding

if I did tho I’d wanna make a spiritual successor to stuff like Thaumcraft, Astral Sorcery, and Intangible

[spare quartz]

well minecraft modding is the entire reason bsl exists and soon it will be where we make our new os

but rn im just trying to refine it.... our last good capability based system was >300 days ago and it should be now again!!!!

oh yeah and we have these things now (they actually look good)

[timid quartz]

cool

instant energy transfer

make a multi block bread reactor structure next

[spare quartz]

multiblocks are the bane of my codev

[timid quartz]

Womp womp

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/hUunR4r2E9k

[timid quartz]

I wonder how dimension generation works

[spare quartz]

my brain is a circular buffer of about 30 days so i cant remember

it involves multilayer bullcrap though is as muhc as i can remember

damn this person is really underweight

[timid quartz]

rrrrgh must make magic mod

what is the opposite of bread

[spare quartz]

mold

[timid quartz]

moldmod

[spare quartz]

thats what we call breadmod when we're on hiatus

theoretically

actually no this is incorrect and redundant

[timid quartz]

I need to play astral sorcery again

I forget how it works

[timid quartz]

How to tell that someone didn’t pay attention in science class

Oh this person is MAGA of course

[timid quartz]

How do u make GUIs and stuff

in MC

[spare quartz]

menus and screens

unless you mean on blocks, in which you use a BlockEntityRenderer

[timid quartz]

No like how the furnace or crafting table does

[timid quartz]

But BlockEntityRenderer is good to know too

[spare quartz]

i cant really tell you how breadmod does it since our system is moderately complex

and does it separate than most other mods

but just look at the registries for menu type

[timid quartz]

yeah that tracks for how you program things

[spare quartz]

hey our way is completely automatic

[timid quartz]

yapper

Completely yappomatic

[spare quartz]

https://github.com/Bread-Experts-Group/breadmod/blob/fd6ee57c1338174bee7ad362eddb74cc705407f7/src/main/kotlin/org/bread_experts_group/breadmod/registry/Registry.kt

heres our registry

[timid quartz]

Need to make dhcp client

though I’ll need a separate NIC on something unless I just want to acquire the same IP of my pre existing NIC

[spare quartz]

im pretty sure you can use the same NIC for multiple addresses

(again depends on the limitations of your RAW socket)

the MAC address is just for device routing, the IP is on top of it

[timid quartz]

Raw? DCHP is over UDP no?

[spare quartz]

yes but if you want to send packets using your custom ip you need RAW

DHCP is just for allocation

[timid quartz]

Yeah but a DHCP server seeing a request from a MAC it already has assigned an IP to is likely gonna respond with the one it already gave

[spare quartz]

it isn't

[timid quartz]

ur mom

[spare quartz]

i know it isn't because i wrote my own DHCP client in kotlin

the router allocates a new IP and sends it back, its just tied to the same MAC

[timid quartz]

how does it renew leases then hmmmm

[spare quartz]

using DHCP messages

they encode the IP address for which they are for

this is why computers usually have two IPs

1 for the local IPv4 and 1 for the local IPv6

they're using the same MAC, but allocated separately

[timid quartz]

yappppp

[spare quartz]

i cant believe people go to college for networking

its the simplest thing ever

[timid quartz]

u do more theory and stuff

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-meme-trunk-monkey-car-gif-18744524

i hate theory

うおぉんゲムダンたのしみすぎる、はやくプレイしてるひとの顔みてニコニコしたい

[timid quartz]

too bad normal people can’t connect to a BGP gateway

BGP is pretty cool

[spare quartz]

you can...*

you need to essentially reverse engineer your ISPs modem though

so 99% of people cant :<

[timid quartz]

?

Connection between home router and ISP doesn’t use BGP iirc

[spare quartz]

you need to authenticate over a line

[timid quartz]

you could uh

make your own OSPF routers

[spare quartz]

im sure theres some way to see it through an isp line

i sure do wonder what protocol they use for authentication now though

[timid quartz]

Mmmmaybe but probably not, BGP connections between ASes occur over dedicated networks

Don’t think they occur over the public internet

Cause at that level you’re getting into the realm of the people who own the public internet infrastructure

Doubt any of that traffic makes it down to the edge

[spare quartz]

(this would be great to implement into bsl)

[timid quartz]

(you should totally get the Feds at your front door by trying to be a BGP peer)

[spare quartz]

okay that works

[spare quartz]

i mean it's not against any crime to be one, would it

aside from maybe wiretapping? but most communication is encrypted anyways

[timid quartz]

Mmmmm maybe not being one but if you were to say advertise a route to YouTube that just black holes all traffic to your router

[spare quartz]

oh DOS

[timid quartz]

You could get in trouble with the Feds and with your ISP that would suddenly see billions of reqs/sec

[spare quartz]

okay that could be a reasonable argument

[timid quartz]

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/support/docs/ip/border-gateway-protocol-bgp/112188-configure-md5-bgp-00.html

[spare quartz]

md5 authentication what?

its a hash

[timid quartz]

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8205

[spare quartz]

an insecure hash

[spare quartz]

ngl

i dont trust the IETF when they put "sec" at the end of something

its usually always a stupidly complex system that doesn't really work

[timid quartz]

I actually had a class wide project where we had to configure a BGP network

And if that is representative at all of how real BGP networks work, we would only exchange BGP messages between our “ASes” over private subnets

That we had to negotiate with each other

[timid quartz]

BGPsec (I think? Might also be something different) is funny too because you can have a “trusted” advertisement, “untrusted,” and “unknown” and it may be common practice to still accept unknown advertisements lol

So theoretically there’s still an attack vector

[spare quartz]

you WILL use breadgp routes and you will like it

[timid quartz]

If someone doesn’t have a BGPsec thing set up for their IP block you could totally still DoS them

[spare quartz]

recipe time

[timid quartz]

Yeaaah it is BGPsec

RPKI and ROAs

[timid quartz]

BGP origin validation

[spare quartz]

oh right thanks for reminding me

eventually i need to unfortunately make a crypto library for BSL

[timid quartz]

you should totally invent your own crypto method

[spare quartz]

i dont know how i would do that

[timid quartz]

totally will be 100% mathematically secure

[spare quartz]

50000 cryptanalysts would kill me immediately

[timid quartz]

500000 cryptanalysts would immediately break your method

[rustic vine]

Send the private key over the network

[spare quartz]

because although i might've spent my entire life programming someone out there has spent their entire life learning cryptography probably

[timid quartz]

Symmetric key crypto with unencrypted key exchange over the network

[rustic vine]

I can spend my entire life programming and a Chinese kid who just started a week ago would still be better

[spare quartz]

you are a chinese kid

[rustic vine]

Perfect

[rustic vine]

Brah

[spare quartz]

had to say it

[timid quartz]

Yeah atp is right

ATP and I can program our whole lives and you’ll still be better lol

You were at that level when you were 10

[rustic vine]

Fr

[timid quartz]

And then random Chinese kid born 3 days ago is already better than that

[rustic vine]

Yup

[timid quartz]

Nowadays to get a job you have to start programming the moment you become an embryo

[spare quartz]

gamete cell*

[rustic vine]

Atp can u identify a plane

[spare quartz]

im not a plane nerd but sure

[rustic vine]

30 yrs of industry experience needed for new college grads

[timid quartz]

Fr

[rustic vine]

I thought it looked cool

But idk what it is

[spare quartz]

oh that looks like one of those C series planes

hold on

[timid quartz]

C series???? Hell naw the plane gonna segfault

[rustic vine]

😭

[spare quartz]

die

[timid quartz]

Should have been Rust series

[spare quartz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_C-130_Hercules

best guess

[rustic vine]

Aerospace runs on C89 👍

[rustic vine]

OHH yea that. I remember now ok

[timid quartz]

C 130 ROLLIN DOWN THE STRIP

[rustic vine]

Is that usually a military plane

[timid quartz]

yeah lol

[spare quartz]

yes

[rustic vine]

Or do civilians own them too

Oh ok

[spare quartz]

i dont believe civilians use them no

[timid quartz]

I rode in a C 130 once

[rustic vine]

Wth

[spare quartz]

heres what they usually use

[rustic vine]

This guy doing side quests

[timid quartz]

Was in the cockpit for a little and it was pretty cool, but the moment I went down into the belly of the plane I IMMEDIATELY got air sick

[rustic vine]

What for?

[timid quartz]

idk something about being down there made me air sick

[rustic vine]

This guy got the connections to get on a military plane but not to get a swe job 😭

[timid quartz]

I’m normally fine in passenger planes so I really don’t know why I got so sick all of a sudden

[spare quartz]

thats weird

i usually only get sick when i have to wear a seatbelt

[rustic vine]

Wt

Huh

[spare quartz]

i havent been on a plane in 15 years though so not enough experience

[spare quartz]

i dunno seatbelts just cause my breathing to get really weird

[rustic vine]

But its a lap belt

On planes

[spare quartz]

causes me to get super nauseous after a few minutes

[spare quartz]

shrug

[rustic vine]

It dont go over ur chest

[timid quartz]

Yeah that requires you going outside which you never do so

[spare quartz]

die (2)

🎲

[rustic vine]

I gotchu with the thumbs up

Don't worry

[spare quartz]

dammit i rolled a 1

[timid quartz]

YOURE GONNA BE THE ONE GETTING FLUNG OUT THE CAR CAUSE U DONT WEAR A SEATBELT LOL

[rustic vine]

Does that roll???

[spare quartz]

omg

i always wear my seatbelt 😭

[rustic vine]

🎲

[spare quartz]

i just hate riding on cars cause i always get sick

[rustic vine]

IT DOESNT ROLL

[spare quartz]

it says gullible on the ceiling

[rustic vine]

That was bait bruh

CHILL

[timid quartz]

Ok try riding in the car next time

Instead of on it

[spare quartz]

riding on a car is fun

[rustic vine]

This me fr

[spare quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1192915287901732884/1192919663101878294/boom-machine.gif?ex=65aad403&is=65985f03&hm=205a60f8a711a12693674efba497631f3fcf3a8c1a9d6a008955198dd0dfe743&

[rustic vine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1076154389674340402/1382929822229073961/RDT_20250613_0228584627120007193963334.jpg?ex=688ce203&is=688b9083&hm=461a59e32f374441a63d51b3ba3a9f794709741c4ee02aa595ae76046736cbf0&

[spare quartz]

(its hot because the exhaust fumes run rust, famously inefficient)

[rustic vine]

Ohhhh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365422855378178048/1400532005841801297/image.png?ex=688cfa92&is=688ba912&hm=da2175afb8ee722fee8a2dabd2551c2c70bbc5b3da561075cad43b6e4c15c80c&

[spare quartz]

can they make korean look stranger

it looks too korean

[timid quartz]

The jet engine (Rust) is heating up to make sure it can burn the exhaust (the JVM) to smithereens

[spare quartz]

notice how the JVM is actually whats propelling you forwards in the world

[timid quartz]

Notice how Rust is doing all the actual work though

[spare quartz]

nah

[rustic vine]

Lol someone made the Chen signal

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1278332589526220873/1400101690614743130/image.png?ex=688c128f&is=688ac10f&hm=454998fb0e77c238057904c132a39f6fcbcc74a4637bb97c8b64a03b22bb87f7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1352&height=838

[rustic vine]

Agreed

[spare quartz]

seizure inducing

[timid quartz]

Pls send in phone-renderable format

[spare quartz]

WAAAAAAAHHHHHH WAAAAAAHHH THIS OLD CODE SUCKSSSS

[timid quartz]

ATP IS LEARNJNG

CODING SUCKS RAAAAH

[spare quartz]

OLD code

stupid

[timid quartz]

Kill it

[spare quartz]

リタイア

[timid quartz]

I will never retire

[spare quartz]

私は先輩が気づく！！！！

[timid quartz]

Mmm they are kinda cute though

[spare quartz]

NI

に！！

I rember

[rustic vine]

NI like

National Instruments

[spare quartz]

No, ni, like the number 2

[timid quartz]

That’s ニ…or is it 二

Might be the second one

[spare quartz]

Yes

[timid quartz]

Yea second one

[rustic vine]

Oh ok

[spare quartz]

三二一

DELETE RUST!!!

[timid quartz]

NEVER

DELETE KOTLIN

[rustic vine]

Hey this is just chinese... 😁

[spare quartz]

Indeed

We should steal Chinese more and mix English into it

Call it uhh

[rustic vine]

Wth

[spare quartz]

Amerzi

[timid quartz]

1/2 of Japanese is Chinese, 1/4 is English, and 1/4 is actually native

[rustic vine]

Chinglish

[spare quartz]

don’t forget

the Japanese had to get funky and changed most of the pronunciation

[lone sky]

I- I'M- I- I- I'M WITH-

[spare quartz]

so although they look the same you gotta be on your toes

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

I WILL MAKE A DELTARUNE REFERENCE AND EVERYONE WILL HATE ME

[spare quartz]

死ぬ

[lone sky]

:(

[spare quartz]

Every language should be descendent from Chinese

It’s the JVM of spoken languages

Mwhahahhahahaha

wahhhh

that’s the first fully Japanese image I could understand

and it’s for debikone😭

[proud creek]

My language 🗣️ 🗣️

[timid quartz]

Horrible

[spare quartz]

Nuh uh

[lone sky]

fatty

adopted

fatty fatty

[timid quartz]

crazy levels of projection

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-dog-rage-bait-meme-gif-9175559818513666389

[spare quartz]

HOLY SHIT

THEY USE A MACBOOK TOO

@lone sky AYUTADA AND BAYACHAO ARE BOTH APPLE EMPLOYEES...

[lone sky]

😭

[timid quartz]

Traced?

[spare quartz]

ww what

??

[timid quartz]

Or laced

[spare quartz]

what're you waffling about aera

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/butterfly-dog-rage-bait-meme-gif-9175559818513666389

they're ragebaiting you

[timid quartz]

Waffles????

[lone sky]

do not interact further

[timid quartz]

Where are the waffles

[spare quartz]

dont worry im a multitasking operating system

[timid quartz]

ew

[spare quartz]

reminder that duke has a wife

the "rust crab" does not.

[timid quartz]

ok

Ferris isn’t losing anything by not having a partner

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282149245310206013/1318122485077643304/RDT_20241118_2201016645429803181321652.gif

[spare quartz]

AERASTO

I NEED HIM

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[timid quartz]

how could you

[timid quartz]

heartless monster

[timid quartz]

Oracle 🤢

[spare quartz]

CHAD DUKE

VS EVIL RUST MONSTER

[spare quartz]

you need the mr po to your bayachao language

or else it wont ever be complete

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/608350433508851732/1400162577409114192/courier_transform.png?ex=688e4584&is=688cf404&hm=ef6ff30d0c35a30d91cc5a5d87725b7619d45fce82a0216e07f4616606afd4fd&

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/340494766208974849/1400233752155914370/image0.png?ex=688ddf0d&is=688c8d8d&hm=7329b5ab11465065b83dd02db7d96db7b997ad9a706f54d9bec1f63859f5511c&

[spare quartz]

do not gatekeep my bayachao

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/hUunR4r2E9k

[timid quartz]

https://www.infoworld.com/article/4029053/jetbrains-working-on-higher-abstraction-programming-language.html

[timid quartz]

Do something funny…

[spare quartz]

like...