ok yeah time to make the website for that one person whose name I will not iterate unless i want 50 sleeper agents to beat me up with golf clubs
#💽Programming Chat v2
lone sky
lone sky
I think you mean "utter"
yeah
timid quartz
go back to english class bro
spare quartz
timid quartz
look it's not my fault that my english sucks
at least our words aren't gendered
la fuego
timid quartz
my point exactly.
lone sky
timid quartz
https://107-132-83-172.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net/web_link/videos/zdODiqjNt...
of course she covered this fucking song
spare quartz
ITS "EL FUEGO"
えｌ ふえご
spare quartz
of course she covered this fucking song
i think you have dementia
you said the same thing a few months ago
timid quartz
she sounds like a damn goblin singing it too
spare quartz
🕐
timid quartz
you said the same thing a few months ago
no I know
spare quartz
no you have dementia
timid quartz
no YOU have uhh
spare quartz
neet.
timid quartz
hypermentia
lone sky
she sounds like a damn goblin singing it too
you are the goblin amongst us
spare quartz
timid quartz
whereas you're barely even in education
timid quartz
https://107-132-83-172.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net/web_link/videos/YzBENUJtr...
make your stupid server embed and buffer faster
timid quartz
make it faster.
timid quartz
timid quartz
cause it's a webm
lone sky
HUH???
timid quartz
IT'S A WEBM
lone sky
IT'S A WEBM
EXCUSES
spare quartz
it actually took a while
timid quartz
nah
spare quartz
so no
lone sky
COCAINE POWDER
spare quartz
not instant
timid quartz
it took like 1 second
spare quartz
lone sky
NOOO
spare quartz
bam
lone sky
WHY DID YOU DELETE IT
spare quartz
submillisecond
timid quartz
I should really make my own version of zipline at some point
spare quartz
i wonder what other videos i should serveeee...
timid quartz
lone sky
i wonder what other videos i should serveeee...
siivagunner lobotomy corporation rip
timid quartz
better
lone sky
FLATTERY
spare quartz
https://cdn.aerasto.xyz/u/friendinsideme.mp4
literally 1:1 loading time to my server
timid quartz
flattery???
spare quartz
yours just has the freak
timid quartz
im glad I'm being flattered
spare quartz
of typescript
spare quartz
hold on lemme upload a touhou video
lone sky
google flattery and come back here.
timid quartz
die
spare quartz
i wanna see if it embeds
timid quartz
google flattery and come back here.
YOU need to google flattery
lone sky
YOU need to google flattery
YOU need to
timid quartz
lone sky
...RIGHT
spare quartz
timid quartz
of typescript
yeah typescript is subpar, im gonna have to make my own in rust
timid quartz
lol do you really have devil connection on your server
spare quartz
yeah
timid quartz
let's go free bayachao games
spare quartz
it has a bunch of electron crap in it though so dont expect it to be very stable
timid quartz
depriving her of money
spare quartz
i tried doing my best of fixing what i could
lone sky
OH YOU
spare quartz
ughhhhhhhh these people are so smellly
@timid quartz question
how is zipline run
timid quartz
wdym
timid quartz
uh
spare quartz
if you say docker you're being killed
spare quartz
peak server design
timid quartz
which is basically docker
timid quartz
this guy gets it
timid quartz
which is basically docker
they DO have instructions for non-docker but you gotta do a bunch of stuff https://zipline.diced.sh/docs/get-started/source
lone sky
along with podman/distrobox
spare quartz
thats awful
lone sky
okay fair enough
lone sky
at least it's not .deb aka my hate and reason i want to shoot everyone that claims to "support linux"
when in reality they only support debian based distros
spare quartz
on the topic of linux
i need to figure out how to modify how it handles tcp keep alive
the last time i checked it sucks hard
timid quartz
when in reality they only support debian based distros
Ok but that’s a problem of Ubuntu being super popular
spare quartz
timid quartz
Not a problem of apt or .deb
lone sky
Ok but that’s a problem of Ubuntu being super popular
yeah but
i fucking hate canonical
lone sky
yeah i know i just hate them for making debian mainstream via ubuntu
timid quartz
Ughhh I gotta get up earlyyyyy
lone sky
Ughhh I gotta get up earlyyyyy
go to sleep smelly
spare quartz
7+7+7+7|+7+7+7+|7+7+7
timid quartz
7+7+7+7|+7+7+7+|7+7+7
timid quartz
yw
spare quartz
ExtensibleULong
timid quartz
What does extensible mean
spare quartz
we just use it as a term for "infinitely expandable"
timid quartz
How do you determine the end of one number and the beginning of the next
spare quartz
although the current functions are for Longs, they can be arbitrarily extended to any size
spare quartz
How do you determine the end of one number and the beginning of the next
let me get the diagram
spare quartz
no
timid quartz
if BitTorrent can use it so can you
timid quartz
nah
spare quartz
have you ever implemented bencode?
timid quartz
timid quartz
have *you* ever implemented bencode?
One day
spare quartz
your opinion sucks goodbye have a terrible sleep and i hope bayachao draws the rust crab as a twink in your dream.
pastel tinsel
timid quartz
Imagine this but bayachao
lone sky
https://cdn.bigbenster702.com/u/sK3gnJW.png
ben you're so terry
spare quartz
lone sky
timid quartz
YOU’RE OUTSIDE???
spare quartz
YOU’RE OUTSIDE???
pastel tinsel
WHAT
spare quartz
touched air that was outside
then yes i have
if you mean "left the premises of my house"
no
lone sky
gotta_buy_me_and_the_folks_some_pizza_after_this.mp4
timid quartz
touched air that was outside
That’s more than you do normally
lone sky
hold this for me
spare quartz
its cause my mom asked me to close the garage door
timid quartz
K good night
spare quartz
timid quartz
spare quartz
spare quartz
Don’t you dare say a delimiter
what would this mean btw
lone sky
ArtStorage
Tipo: Carpeta de Archivos
Ubicación: C:\Users\unfunnylad\Desktop
Tamaño: 7.05 GB (7,571,988,528 bytes)
Contiene: 17,982 archivos, 12 carpetas
spare quartz
@timid quartz btw when you wake up i forgot to say one more thing
so java loggers have a different form for .info/.warning/etc where in the secondargument is a closure
logger.info { "like this" }
so id make one more suggestion, if you're doing anything inside a log that isn't just a static string, like "${5 + 10}", then put it in a log closure
otherwise use the normal form
logger.info("Static")
logger.info { "Dynamic ${logger.name}" }
this trades off a bit of memory (closure) for processing time/possible memory from building (no need to build the string)
spare quartz
spare quartz
spare quartz
<@195942662241648640> btw when you wake up i forgot to say one more thing
also heres a boring rust thing for you to read if you want
its raining
spare quartz
already a pretty good start for the banked logger, when the log is stripped
INFO 06/11 02:07:36.594186 Banked File Handler Tests publish 1 Basic text message
INFO 06/11 02:07:36.668874 Banked File Handler Tests publish 1 Complex メッセージ ỳ ġ 🔥🔥
(169 characters)
vs. the banked 175 characters
now to print many more
2000 messages written
banked message logger: 42,982 bytes
the raw messages logged (just the text, not date, level, logger name): 84,000 bytes
bank size: 132 bytes
now to huffman encode
spare quartz
alright
just created the most terrifying huffman encoder ever
fun <T> compute(from: Iterable<T>): HuffmanBranch<T> {
val counts = from.groupingBy { it }.eachCount()
var branches: List<*> = counts.toList().sortedBy { it.second }.chunked(2)
while (branches.size > 2) branches = branches.chunked(2)
fun branch(fromBranch: List<*>, from: HuffmanBranch<T>) {
@Suppress("UNCHECKED_CAST")
fun write(index: Int) {
val at = index == 1
val value = fromBranch[index]
if (value is List<*>) {
if (value.size > 1) return branch(value, from.branch(at))
val inner = value.first()
if (inner is List<*>) branch(inner, from.branch(at))
else from.edge(at, (value[0] as Pair<T, Int>).first)
} else from.edge(at, (value as Pair<T, Int>).first)
}
write(0)
write(1)
}
val root = HuffmanBranch<T>()
branch(branches, root)
println(root.visualize())
return root
}
but it DOES appear to work
spare quartz
wrote this version with interesting properties
about the same speed but more bias towards common characters
(a gets 4 bits, previous gave a 5 bits, however for a lesser used character }, it got 8 bits, while the previous gave it 7 bits)
timid quartz
what would this mean btw
[number];[number];etc…
spare quartz
you waste an entire byte by doing that
anyways rn im working on exporting/importing my huffmanbranch class
this dataset is from 5 wikipedia articles
timid quartz
spare quartz
this dataset is from 5 wikipedia articles
unsurprisingly the most used characters
spare quartz
thats funny
using an extensible ulong is actually a lot more optimal than a u16 for characters
680 bytes -> 504 bytes
higher entropy
spare quartz
spare quartz
bank is now huffman encoded (left is opportunistic huffman encoding, right is plaintext)
need to fix the minor corruption on the sides...
spare quartz
hhhhhhh
figuring out the forward padding issue is tough
i think ill reserve 3 bits in the compression byte to designate the amount of unused bits at the end
spare quartz
https://fxtwitter.com/shitposts_mp4/status/1932309273343660357
embeeeeeeddd
i dont thnik its gonna embed :<
flint belfry
discord dosent embed dial up..
spare quartz
discord dosent embed dial up..
?
flint belfry
didnt you run a speedtest and you got like 5 mbps
spare quartz
you might have memory problems
that was the server in new york which was specified as clearly as possible
flint belfry
that was the server in new york which was specified as clearly as possible
i missed that
flint belfry
i thought it was your home connection
flint belfry
get to reading
im sorry
flint belfry
im so fucking sorry
spare quartz
the programming chat lore is dense
okay now thats just weird
A1
32
25
???
oh my god its sending 7 as unused
firefui3ur23u8r23r0291--1-
THERE
99 bytes for the testbank
excellent entropy
spare quartz
the only non-huffman encoded text is "INFO" since that'll end up being larger than plaintext
to store the 2,000 test logs im writing it'd take 116,000 bytes UTF-8 encoded, vs 41,403 bytes in our format
which is a compresion ratio of ... 35.69%!
but we can raise the entropy even higher
hold on i got my math wrong
let me factor in the logger name + level and crap
(41403 / 148000)*100 = 27.975% compression ratio
might look into making a sparse file
spare quartz
(41403 / 148000)*100 = 27.975% compression ratio
22.369% compression ratio using a timestamp + delta file
33,107 bytes total
27,781 bytes total using agressive deltas (18.770% compression ratio)
timid quartz
what's the most up to date cringe_server_lib
timid quartz
what ver
spare quartz
just give me onnnnnne second
@timid quartz
what a strange pattern the content file is making
timid quartz
theyre all GONE
spare quartz
oh yeah those are all under command_line now
also you're gonna have to replace all those singleArgs and multipleArgs things
with args.get() or args.gets()
spare quartz
noooooooo
its not that hard to transition
just do it
btw ColoredLogger is renamed to ColoredHandler
and you can create your new levels with ColoredLevel
timid quartz
int range LAAAME
spare quartz
goooodddd!!!*
timid quartz
should default to Integer.MIN_VALUE .. Integer.MAX_VALUE
spare quartz
it even supports Ada-style integers now!!!
timid quartz
it even supports Ada-style integers now!!!
🤢
spare quartz
you can do 2#01101# and 0b139 or 0o477
(theoretically anyways, they're not tested, i just used the logic in my head to code them)
(be my test subject)
timid quartz
2.32.1 added
same for ::stringToLong
spare quartz
same for ::stringToLong
that has a default range already
also you cant use them like ::this anymore
they're lambda factories
conv = stringToLong() < new syntax
timid quartz
ok so for uh
for arguments that aren't required but have a default
should I use .get or .getRequired
because strictly speaking they won't ever be null
unless their default is null
lone sky
What does this mean 🤔
spare quartz
getRequired since they'll never be null
timid quartz
ugh I have to use generic syntaax now
spare quartz
well, you can also have each flag as a variable
and use that as an argument
and its auto typed..
timid quartz
wdym as a variable
timid quartz
oh what the L
that's interesting
or I make my val FLAGS = listOf(...) into val FLAGS = mapOf(...)
spare quartz
why would you do that
timid quartz
because I already have them all in a list
so then I can
args.getRequired(FLAGS["name"])
timid quartz
generic syntax is less cringe
lone sky
https://www.dni.gov/files/NCSC/documents/campaign/October_Newsletter_2019.pdf
not reading this 🥱
i'll go back to yearning in the coal mines
spare quartz
yeah OK tamamo
lone sky
yeah OK tamamo
MROMWEOMRWEORMWEORMWEORMWEORMWEORMEW
spare quartz
lone sky
?!?!??
lone sky
https://fixupx.com/i/status/1932733156307709952
DIRTY LITTLE BOY
timid quartz
ugh I have to completely redo handleCommands
spare quartz
its for the bettterrr
timid quartz
its for the bettterrr
for (arg in args.of.keys) :3
timid quartz
im not writing 5 billion ifs
spare quartz
you're so weirrdd
timid quartz
you're so weirrdd
bro im not doing
if (args.getRequired<whatever>("arg1")) { /* ... */ }
if (args.getsRequired<whatever>("arg2").size > 0) { /* ... */ }
if (!args.getRequired<whatever>("arg3").isEmpty()) { /* ... */ }
cause you're boooring
also its getsRequired
not getRequired
wait no
im blind sorry 😭
timid quartz
you're so weirrdd
ugh ok the for loop is being weird
something about "not enough information to infer type of K"
spare quartz
show
timid quartz
timid quartz
The funny thing is that if I remove the else LOGGER.info(…) the error goes away
spare quartz
well that makes sense
when you pair an if and an else together with a function call or what have you, along in this context with an if paired to the when
it'll think you're trying to return a value up towards when
instead of "just" running code
timid quartz
The loop is jank anyways
yknow maybe I’ll do this
make commands have null defaults
spare quartz
are you sure thats a good idea
timid quartz
Well I was gonna filter them
But that won’t really work either
Will still encounter the loop issue
timid quartz
just handling the commands
Because it’s valid to supply multiple commands in one invocation
carpool -add_application="./a" -add_application="./b" -remove_application=pidC is totally valid
spare quartz
well a loop seems fine there, then
"a" -> {
if (...) ...
}
just do this if you havent already
timid quartz
well a loop seems fine there, then
well this did get me thinking
if I did do a bunch of ifs I could enforce some ordering in how commands are executed
although it may be better to have the user specify the ordering
ie carpool -list_applications -add_application=... gives different output than carpool -add_application=... -list_applications
timid quartz
```
"a" -> {
if (...) ...
}
```
this did not help
timid quartz
ik
lone sky
ik
actually
let's be real honest here
she will wake up in 5 hours
be half awake
talk for like
4 hours
and then go to sleep again
lone sky
@timid quartz if I learned kotlin would you abort me
timid quartz
Immediately
however I won't tell you to learn rust as one of your first langs either
runic sierra
help, did I do it correctly
wheat hornet
well thats one way to use the coding channel
timid quartz
however I won't tell you to learn rust as one of your first langs either
I'd recommend doing something with strong types (like Java, C#, or even Kotlin), something with dynamic types (like JS, Lua, or Python eugh), and then C/C++
then I think you'd have a good foundation to appreciate the things Rust does
timid quartz
help, did I do it correctly
could you please explain what "it" is and what you're trying to do with it?
also fyi you can add syntax highlighting to your code by doing ```lua
makes it easier to read
runic sierra
Program a platform going up and down with the TweenService. I choose "EasingStyle.Sine" for a comfortable look
rahh
why it not working
timid quartz
the three ` and the "lua" have to be on the same line
runic sierra
oh..
runic sierra
local UserInputService = game:GetService("UserInputService")
local TweenService = game:GetService("TweenService")
local tweenInfo = TweenInfo.new(2, Enum.EasingStyle.Sine, Enum.EasingDirection.InOut)
local tween = TweenService:Create(object, tweenInfo, {Rotation = 90})
local platform = script.Parent -- Assuming the platform is a child of the script
local function onPlatformTouch(input)
if input.UserInputType == Enum.UserInputType.Touch then
local touchPosition = input.Position
local platformPosition = platform.Position
-- Move the platform up or down based on the touch position
if touchPosition.Y < platformPosition.Y then
-- Move platform up
local tweenInfo = TweenInfo.new(0.5, Enum.EasingStyle.Linear, Enum.EasingDirection.In)
local tween = TweenService:Create(platform, tweenInfo, {Position = Vector3.new(platformPosition.X, platformPosition.Y + 10, platformPosition.Z)})
tween:Play()
else
-- Move platform down
local tweenInfo = TweenInfo.new(0.5, Enum.EasingStyle.Linear, Enum.EasingDirection.In)
local tween = TweenService:Create(platform, tweenInfo, {Position = Vector3.new(platformPosition.X, platformPosition.Y - 10, platformPosition.Z)})
tween:Play()
end
end
end
UserInputService.TouchBegan:Connect(onPlatformTouch)
UserInputService.TouchMoved:Connect(onPlatformTouch)
UserInputService.TouchEnded:Connect(onPlatformTouch)
ok so the first thing that's odd
is you make a tweenInfo and a tween at the very top
but then dont use them at all
runic sierra
tbh with you, idk what I am doing
timid quartz
the tween that you're actually using is defined within your if block
local tween = -- the tween you made
local function onPlatformTouch(input)
if input.UserInputType == Enum.UserInputType.Touch then
-- ...
if touchPosition.Y < platformPosition.Y then
local tween = -- another tween
-- ...
tween:Play() -- this references the tween directly above
else
local tween = -- another tween
-- ...
tween:Play() -- this references the tween directly above
end
end
end
:C
timid quartz
:C
Read what I said
You COULD also use C/C++ for the “strongly typed language” portion, you’ll learn more but it’ll be a little harder
timid quartz
rustic vine
```lua
local UserInputService = game:GetService("UserInputService")
local TweenS...
did aera answer ur questions
runic sierra
oh ok
pallid loom
what the fuck does control group 52 mean
that wasn't even my original question but anyhow
what I wanted to ask is this
runic sierra
what the fuck does control group 52 mean
err ask in #☢️┃qserf
pallid loom
So I've got LoRa for a high altitude balloon project - and I'm wondering on how I should pack the data
current thinking is data1;data2;etc
but I'm wondering if there's something more efficent
every byte matters as it's a really slow protocol
rustic vine
what the fuck does control group 52 mean
replacement to the 51st one, they tragically died in an underground mining accident
pallid loom
another thought I had was to have a constant length for stuff
so for example temp is 2 numbers and 2 decimals
at ANY point
including - of course which then makes it 5 numbers
removing the dot as a decimal separator to save on transmission size aswell
pallid loom
but I'm unsure if I should go down this rabbit hole or just do the thing I currently do, just having ;
pallid loom
not yet
pallid loom
and then zstd it
keep in mind it's running on an esp32 so it has to be somewhat efficent
pallid loom
it's joever.
rustic vine
keep in mind it's running on an esp32 so it has to be somewhat efficent
ye zstd can prob run on that
pallid loom
it's joever.
let me get the higher perspective
this one ran out of battery prematurely
rustic vine
I don't actually get what you're asking abt tho
what are you trying to optimize
what is slow
pallid loom
yes
rustic vine
ok slap zstd on it
rustic vine
well u don't really need to worry abt packing it yourself
zstd will just
do that
I slap it on anything I don't care enough to develop a custom solution for
and where the data is generic enough that a custom solution wouldn't yield much benefits
but if you know what kind of data you are sending and its a very specialized set you can prolly do even better than zstd
pallid loom
zstd is built into everything and 7zip is the best I think
embedded
timid quartz
ok I have some time to talk
timid quartz
```lua
local UserInputService = game:GetService("UserInputService")
local TweenS...
ok so...
Your local tween AND local tweenInfo at the top are being overridden in your if blocks that deal with touchPosition.Y. Since you said you wanted your easing style to be sine, you probably intended to use the tweenInfo at the top.
Other than that, you should probably be using CFrames instead of Position = Vector3. You can both move and rotate the platform in one tween rather than needing two. Look up the Roblox docs on CFrames, you'll likely need something like
-- dont forget to do Y + 10 or Y - 10
-- and also to rotate on the correct axis with .angles
local tween = TweenService:Create(platform, tweenInfo, {CFrame = CFrame.new(X, Y, Z) * CFrame.angles(90, 0, 0)}
it's fine to declare local tween inside each if branch, but I think you were intending to use the same tweenInfo
timid quartz
@spare quartz my friend: "java is better than kotlin, kotlin is just java but you dont want to admit its java"
oml
I could have done this in rust
timid quartz
use std::process::Command;
fn main() {
let o = Command::new("bash")
.arg("-c")
.arg("while true; do sleep 60; done;")
.spawn()
.expect("failed to spawn");
println!("{}", o.id());
}
this works
timid quartz
wait no 10 hours
timid quartz
also if you really wanna learn Kotlin then sure
just know that it’s coping a lot by choosing to maintain Java compatibility
I’d maybe learn Java itself first
lone sky
tbf nobody is stopping me
it MIGHT not be ideal for someone coming from lua with zero knowledge
but 🤷♂️
timid quartz
I’d maybe learn Java itself first
again
You’ll get some context for things in Kotlin and for the JVM in general
The two things that come to mind are static methods and the throws keyword (and checked vs unchecked exceptions along with that)
rustic vine
LEARN CPP
checked exceptions are dumb
hot take of the week
thats not even a hot take they're just bad
timid quartz
the distinction is odd yes
but C++ doesnt even have a way to inform the programmer of what exceptions might be thrown
at least java does
however the ideal situation is having "exceptions" be pure values that are encoded into the return type of a function
eg rust Result<T, E>
or even golang with res, err := function()
rustic vine
but C++ doesnt even have a way to inform the programmer of what exceptions might...
this is the job of docs, not checked exceptions
check exceptions are exceptions-as-control-flow
which is dumb
exceptions should be exceptional
rustic vine
however the ideal situation is having "exceptions" be pure values that are encod...
yes
the ideal situation is indeed errors as values
rustic vine
21 californians
lone sky
<@195942662241648640>
- soyjak icon
- bad reviews
seems trustworthy enough
LMFAO IT ACTUALLY WORKS LIKE INTENDED
THE SOYJAK KNOWS BEST 😭
timid quartz
gg
spare quartz
this did not help
000-
timid quartz
gg
timid quartz
000-
I just redid my status logic to avoid the problem
the status logic was jank anyways
spare quartz
ok I have some time to talk
Dial A
spare quartz
the status logic was jank anyways
OK. What does your code currently look like
spare quartz
<@516049910622191626> my friend: "java is better than kotlin, kotlin is just jav...
Your friend is stupid
spare quartz
I’d maybe learn Java itself first
Would not suggest
Kotlin is an independent language. If you want to learn about how the JVM operates, just ask me anything; or read the JVMS/JLS
timid quartz
Your friend is stupid
my friend is the head TA for a course taught entirely in java I think you're the stupid one
timid quartz
Would not suggest
would suggest: kotlin is full of jvm copium that doesnt make sense if you dont know java
spare quartz
my friend is the head TA for a course taught entirely in java I think you're the...
Are they a compiler engineer or VM developer?
spare quartz
would suggest: kotlin is full of jvm copium that doesnt make sense if you dont k...
Specify
timid quartz
switching to SIMD communication
- do you know what a TA is
- like I said earlier, the two things that come to mind are
@JvmStaticand@Throws
spare quartz
switching to SIMD communication
- do you know what a TA is
- like I said earlier...
- teaching assistant. Are they or not. if they aren’t, they clearly don’t know the language
- those are irrelevant for standard Kotlin operations
timid quartz
- teaching assistant. Are they or not. if they aren’t, they clearly don’t know t...
- technically yes they have engineered parts of a compiler but not for java, BUT they do use it constantly because that's what the class is taught in
- mf I'm using
@Throwsin my shit for RMI and you also suggested for my supervisor code to all be in one class with a@JvmStaticmain method, how would anyone understand what a static method is without having the idea from Java
spare quartz
- technically yes they have engineered parts of a compiler but not for java, BUT...
- opinion irrelevant.
- I need you to understand that both of those are JVM specific quirks, specifically sections 2 and 6 of the JVMS; they wouldn’t apply to the other platforms Kotlin is targeted towards, like JS or Native
timid quartz
- ur mom, dropping convo, switch back to normal communcations method
- ok but you still should know about them because kotlin can target the jvm
can target and often DOES target the jvm
spare quartz
really, there’s very few things Java will teach you about the JVM, if I’m being honest
rustic vine
it is 11pm please go promptly to bed
lone sky
it is 11pm please go promptly to bed
brother your time zone sucks
it's 10 PM for them
☠️
timid quartz
I really do need to go sleep for 9h
lone sky
PM*
rustic vine
irrelevant timezone
spare quartz
I really do need to go sleep for 9h
lone sky
MEWOMROWMREPRMWORMEORMWORM
lone sky
this video will teach you all there is to the JVM
do you have more of those btw
spare quartz
that tweet is an entire thread of them
lone sky
OH
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timid quartz
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timid quartz
timid quartz
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get to coding Kotlin!!!!
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14 September 30828 CE
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its library exposed
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deleting you
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readback works!
'
2,000 logs per each (basic/complex)
= 12.108% compression ratio
even with a single log its still marginally better than plaintext
(ignore corrupted log on the second there, need to add a way to inform the readback that the stream is over)
also supports colored logging(*)
the left is with the level loaded alongside the records, the right is the level loaded from file
it loses color content but the ID/name are preserved (as well as localization data if present)
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11110111001111111001110101001100110010011111111101010000
ばやちゃお
111000111000000110110000111000111000001010000100111000111000000110100001111000111000001010000011111000111000000110001010
7 bytes vs. 15 bytes
lavish dove
<@195942662241648640> https://107-132-83-172.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net/web...
lightning yay
timid quartz
<@195942662241648640> https://107-132-83-172.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net/web...
Mm that’s lovely
lavish dove
now take your microwaves thingamajig out and turn it into a capacitor and make a biggero ne
timid quartz
a boeing 787 crashed today
lavish dove
just a few hours ago
in india
the apartment building was attached to a hospital and is the housing for its doctors and staff
It crashed at takeoff after what im assuming is engine failure
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<@516049910622191626> instead of using RMI I should have used log4j
??
what??
the two are unrelated
timid quartz
:3
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instead of using RMI i should have used javax.compiler
timid quartz
And as an added benefit I would have gotten a better logger
spare quartz
you wouldn't
timid quartz
/j obv
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the log4j one uses XML 🤮
spare quartz
okay but thats an output
the log4j one uses XML for configuration too
anyways BankedFileHandler on top
timid quartz
the log4j one uses XML for configuration too
Oh nasty
timid quartz
anyways BankedFileHandler on top
I’m not using another program to decode logs!!!!
timid quartz
Not impressive
spare quartz
it IS impressive
timid quartz
Come back to me when it’s 25% or more
spare quartz
what?
lower compression ratio is better you doofus
12% compression ratio = 12% original size
timid quartz
Oh
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timid quartz
Come back to me when it’s 3% or less
spare quartz
okay now thats just insane
timid quartz
On par or better than zstd
timid quartz
timid quartz
Nuh uh
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1:2.896
you learn this in 5th grade
cslet.
by the way a compression ratio of 2% would be actually insane
it is theoretically doable (on a repeated dataset)
but since logging can be from many different sources at once, with little repetition, it'd probably just cause lower entropy
(which is bad)
hhhh
im gonna see how well banked file handler stacks up to that ratio
from my limited theory of its algorithm, its effectiveness over plaintext goes up the higher its used
spare quartz
compression ratio: 11.98%
though one thing zstd has over this
its stream can be done in a single file
banked file logging requires 3 files (you could remove the third, timestamp file, but each log will only have a delta of the last nanosecond instead of a full time)
(you cannot remove the bank file, though, the content file just becomes a useless list of indices that can only tell you that something was logged at a certain level)
(actually, now that i think about it... the logging level only really needs to be logged once)
lyric mesa
log in txt :D
lyric mesa
okay dokay! :<
lone sky
spare quartz
log in txt :D
this would result in a logging file 8.34 times larger
(however i am working rn to improve that thanks to aeras yapping making me think)
timid quartz
log in txt :D
See katsumi gets it
spare quartz
don't bother. you both are years behind my research.
lyric mesa
this would result in a logging file 8.34 times larger
what if i.. have no care for the concept of storage capacity..
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what if i.. have no care for the concept of storage capacity..
you're rich
timid quartz
as i said, txt is for the weak
Says the guy who can’t even program
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see i dont have a lot of space
lone sky
make me use markdown
timid quartz
It’s readable
spare quartz
need it for more important applications like... bayachao art
timid quartz
LOGGING IN MARKDOWN????
lone sky
It’s readable
biggest lie ever
timid quartz
💀
lone sky
LOGGING IN MARKDOWN????
NO
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LOGGING IN MARKDOWN????
what
lyric mesa
you're rich
-# (i do care)
lone sky
SMH.
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-# (i do care)
timid quartz
-# (i do care)
Make your own logging format in Rust, don’t use ATP’s that’s written in Stinklin
lone sky
rustlet
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biohhhaazard
lyric mesa
Make your own logging format in Rust, don’t use ATP’s that’s written in Stinklin
i don't know how to do that
timid quartz
i don't know how to do that
For starters look up Huffman code, but you’re smart you can do it 
lone sky
simply store logs in a massive PNG file
lone sky
which you can only read correctly with a proprietary log viewer
lyric mesa
For starters look up Huffman code, but you’re smart you can do it <:Catthumbsup:...
sounds tuff, man. :(
timid quartz
in DEFLATE
I’m going to deflate you
spare quartz
I’m going to deflate you
you know i could have so many responses to that, all of which i do not like..
timid quartz
but the actual term is uhh.. steganography
PirateSoftware reference?
spare quartz
what?
lyric mesa
I’m going to deflate you
i hope atp isn't inflated
timid quartz
i hope atp isn't inflated
ATP drinks soda and eats pizza and steak all day, therefore very inflated
timid quartz
but what does he have to do with that practice
He uses steganography to store his passwords
spare quartz
you two are just making it worse 😭
lone sky
ATP drinks soda and eats pizza and steak all day, therefore very inflated
poor choice of words
spare quartz
sounds tuff, man. :(
huffman tree basics
in utf-8/ascii a letter (take 'B') is encoded in 7-8 bits
with a huffman tree you can variably encode the number of bits for something
(in this tree, 1 bit for B/C, 2 for E/F)
actually theres a mistake with that tree (C isn't encodable) so just treat it like its not there
10110 -> FEB
lyric mesa
sniff
timid quartz
(in this tree, 1 bit for B/C, 2 for E/F)
and then you can take that and go further
for atp's logging thing
"INFO" is a really common string
so instead of like idk let's say 18 bits
INFO can just be 000
INFO 000
WARNING 001
SEVERE 010
FINE 011
FINER 100
FINEST 101
CONFIG 110
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well, the huffman tree im using is taken from 5 english wikipedia articles, so its a lot larger; the actual deflation process is 3 fold
timid quartz
of course you need to store it in a structure so you know how to interpret it properly
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- program determines if huffman/plaintext is more efficient (it'll test through the japanese/english sets), and writes the most efficient
- a message or what have you is disassembled into its most basic parts; for levels this is either their name, or their name + localization bundle; any outstanding unicode modifiers are normalized into 1 character
- the message is written as an index inside the bank file
Bank file:
Hello
"Hello" or 010101011100100? -> 010101011100100 more optimal
Write 010101011100100 [index: 0]
Content file:
...
"Hello" used
Write [index: 0]
lyric mesa
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compression ratio: 11.98%
@timid quartz okay so
thank you for making me think
doing some level/int compression
ive gotten it down to 9.79%!
テストレベル -> have i written this before? -> no -> write details: name/localization name/value
テストレベル -> have i written this before? -> yes -> write name
spare quartz
indeed
it can really only be used with a LogRecord
it'd explode if you gave it binary or text
(unless you wrapped that in a LogRecord, which would be insanely cursed)
looks like i need to give it for memory for testing with a 1GB plaintext file...
timid quartz
what is this, gradescope?
spare quartz
gradle generates test result HTML files when you complete a test
anyways that should be plenty
timid quartz
huh
spare quartz
timid quartz
anyways that should be plenty
20G heap size, what is this star citizen?
spare quartz
thisll take a moment......
9.76%, about the same
neat
it looks like most of the memory usage was from the inputstream storing the plaintext over the banked file handler which
i suppose is a good thing? i couldn't tell with great accuracy but taskmgr said only ~14 mb was allocated over the 2 million log run when using the banked handler
spare quartz
20G heap size, what is this star citizen?
ive never played that is it super intensive
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oh wow
timid quartz
regularly uses 20gb+ when I play
timid quartz
consumes nearly all of my gpu's 8gb vram
timid quartz
fr
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does he actually still play star citizen
timid quartz
yes
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i swear i could see him on even when neco was alive 😭
timid quartz
consumes nearly all of my gpu's 8gb vram
nearly always maxed out my 9600k's 6 cores
my new 9700X chills around 40%-60% usage unless im doing something intense
but that's also affected by other apps
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i wonder how memory intensive bayachaos game will be...
all of her assets are these massive APNGs and i dont know enough about tyrano/electron to know how they handle them
timid quartz
is this how I do it
spare quartz
yeah
timid quartz
i wonder how memory intensive bayachaos game will be...
well star citizen is so intense one because it's massive and two because their engine is a REALLY bad mod of CryEngine
CryEngine being used for Crysis which was basically unrunnable when it was made (the hardware at the time was not strong enough and the Crysis devs designed their game as such) and even today is still intense
timid quartz
yep
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reminds me of how good valve did with their source engines
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like they had decent glass breaking in the early 2000s with good graphics
timid quartz
CIG moved away from CryEngine to Amazon Lumberyard
....which is also based on CryEngine 3.8 nvm we never left
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CIG moved away from CryEngine to Amazon Lumberyard
THEY MAKE GAME ENGINES??
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i remember seeing this other space game with a cool engine tech demo
i forgot what they were called...
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with their work on space engineers 2 it is cool but
oh starbase i think that might be it
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i saw it in a stream with lava (almost just said java wtf)
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timid quartz
i saw it in a stream with lava (almost just said java wtf)
BRAIN ROTTED
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starfield
maybe, unsure.....
wow creation engine is really just bedesthas source
ooooo i wonder what engine gta vi will use
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chaoegnine..
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creative
lyric mesa
cuteeeee