💽Programming Chat v2

[timid quartz]

ok

[spare quartz]

DONT

DONT

USE VIRTUAL THREADS

THEY ARE LITERLALY SUPERIOR

[timid quartz]

your fucking mom is superior

[spare quartz]

https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/21/core/virtual-threads.html#GUID-15BDB995-028A-45A7-B6E2-9BA15C2E0501

READ IITTYT

[timid quartz]

the reek of jvm copium

[timid quartz]

is it bad practice to not explicitly close files on shutdown

[spare quartz]

It’s preferable you close files you’re not using

[timid quartz]

ok java has no .close we good

[spare quartz]

chiharu <333

[spare quartz]

Wdym

[timid quartz]

its on the stream ok

[spare quartz]

Yeah

[timid quartz]

just for when

say the supervisor exits

closing the log file

[spare quartz]

So thirsty

[timid quartz]

how could i...

that might work

@spare quartz would that work

[spare quartz]

Hold on burger

[spare quartz]

Probably_

[timid quartz]

smite

[spare quartz]

Hold on

What is supervisor.onExit()?

Please standby

Are you certain .apply {} does what you think it does for CompletableFuture?

[timid quartz]

idk?

idk what this shit does

maybe I need .thenApply

[spare quartz]

https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/24/docs/api/java.base/java/util/concurrent/CompletableFuture.html#thenAccept(java.util.function.Consumer)

Wait no

thenRun

[timid quartz]

thought rust shit was complicated

[spare quartz]

This isn’t complicated!

You just need to read the docs!

[timid quartz]

idk if I can validate that the log file is closing at all

[spare quartz]

Just add a print after you close the file

[timid quartz]

dont print nothin

[spare quartz]

Are you sure supervisor is exiting

[timid quartz]

yes

im positive

because the process dies

[spare quartz]

Well then the completion stage should be running

[timid quartz]

also...the only things that ever get written to the log file

are during startup

nothing from rmi calls

do rmi calls spawn like

separate threads or smth

that use different input streams

@spare quartz

[spare quartz]

Define different input streams

[timid quartz]

like

you knwo what I mean

[spare quartz]

I do not

[timid quartz]

like ok

yes you fucking do

[spare quartz]

I don’t! What input stream!!!

[timid quartz]

yknow how Process.inputStream

or whatever

that's by default stdout or whatever

[spare quartz]

If it’s the same process object then no

[timid quartz]

when I do an RMI call

does it like

spawn a new process

or smth

I have this file here

and only stuff in this file gets outputted in the logs

if I do some CLI command that invokes an RMI call, no logs from that appear

[spare quartz]

They shouldn’t spawn new processes no

[timid quartz]

then why no logs from rmi calls

[spare quartz]

Are they running at all?

[timid quartz]

yes they are verifiably running

because I get results

[spare quartz]

Hmmm

How are the RMI calls logging stuff

If something is holding a lock on the log file, I don’t think they’ll write

[timid quartz]

I create a logger here and give it to the class that has all the RMI methods

[spare quartz]

What handlers are on the blogger

Logger

[timid quartz]

wdym handlers

I use your ColoredLogger for that

[spare quartz]

Hold on

[spare quartz]

Where are the logs?

[timid quartz]

user-defined directory

[spare quartz]

Please show the handler you have on the logger to write there

[spare quartz]

That’s not writing to a file

[spare quartz]

Okay… can you… hmmm

Hm hm hm

Hmmm

[timid quartz]

the same thing happens if I transfer to System.out

[spare quartz]

Show the instantiation of logFile

[timid quartz]

only stuff from CarpoolSupervisorMain.kt gets written

[timid quartz]

**

[spare quartz]

I read

[timid quartz]

I shoudl change that exception to be more specific hold

ok done

shoulda just used rust

[timid quartz]

yes ok

[spare quartz]

Some platforms, in particular, allow a file to be opened for writing by only one FileOutputStream (or other file-writing object) at a time. In such situations the constructors in this class will fail if the file involved is already open.

[timid quartz]

ok but like

[spare quartz]

If you’re opening that log file by multiple parties, say, multiple RMI threads and the main thread

[timid quartz]

so RMI calls spawn new threads

gotcha

[spare quartz]

Thhhhennn you’d be facing an issue… is my theory

[spare quartz]

In theory yes

It’d make no sense for them to run synchronously

The JVM isn’t interrupt driven

[timid quartz]

so instead of using RMI I should have just used normal ass RPC so that it would all be running in a way I could control

gotcha

[spare quartz]

Again

The JVM isn’t interrupt driven

I’m not sure what you expected

[timid quartz]

I expected to be able to attach a log file to the supervisor's stdout and have the logger write to that

[spare quartz]

Okay, but you didn’t put two and two and think that maybe writing to a single log file by multiple threads is dangerous?

[timid quartz]

did not know that rmi spawned new threads

[spare quartz]

But how it work otherwise!

[timid quartz]

idfk

so wtf do I do now

[spare quartz]

Bring thinking back into programming!!

[timid quartz]

send logs to the void?

[spare quartz]

No

You create a singleton in your program that you write to, and something else writebacks that into a log

Or you can redirect System.out

Or you can add a handler to your loggers that does the former of the two

Just think about thread safety

[timid quartz]

id expect this out of rust but not out of java

and rust would have probably been clearer about this behavior

[spare quartz]

Well Rust doesn’t have an analog to RMI

and you should shut your mouth

[spare quartz]

Wdym?

[timid quartz]

this lang sucks

jvm copium

[timid quartz]

well because rust is so strict everywhere else

[spare quartz]

THINK aera THINK

[spare quartz]

Well the JVM is here, too

It’s not gonna let you write unsafely to a single file, you just… didn’t consider that

[timid quartz]

except it doesn't tell you that it's not doing that

[spare quartz]

It does

But since those exceptions were in another thread

• They should’ve been logged to you
• Or, RMI should’ve logged it on the client end, through an RMI errro…
• Or you’ve got a black hole somewhere!

[timid quartz]

in rust this would definitely trigger the borrow checker immediately because you're trying to share that same value across two threads
it would say some shit like "attempt to move value" or whatever

[spare quartz]

No

That’s safely handled in the JVM

Those are both safe operations

What isn’t safe is you opening multiple logFile instances

[timid quartz]

exactly why I don't expect to have to deal with "thread safety" really at all with the jvm

because it's all so loosey-goosey and "handled"

[spare quartz]

Okay, but logFile is still a thread issue

You’re opening more than one on separate threads

Multiple output streams on multiple threads to a single destination … bad

[timid quartz]

so rather than set it where the supervisor is spawned, it needs to be set by the supervisor itself

[spare quartz]

It’s probably saying an error and you’re not doing something about it or hiding it

[timid quartz]

I have seen 0 errors

[spare quartz]

I’m not sure what that means, but I guess

[timid quartz]

and rust wouldn't even let this program compile because of that I guarantee

[spare quartz]

You know, I really should take a look at your code… I’m not gonna sleep for a while

[spare quartz]

Whatever lets you sleep at night

[timid quartz]

you'll probably eviscerate it

[spare quartz]

Nuh uh

I’m not mean

[timid quartz]

because let's say I make some "equivalent" of RMI or whatever

[spare quartz]

Oh, that burger hurts… acid reflux…

[timid quartz]

I spawn a new thread or whatever to handle a request

let's say on the "main" thread startup I open a file or whatever

then for the "handler" thread, when I go to spawn it, Rust would complain if I was just using a raw file

it would say something about trying to borrow a moved value or whatever

because when the first thread spawns, the file gets moved into that thread

[spare quartz]

Well, you’re not doing that in Java in the first place

[timid quartz]

and then when the second thread spawns, the file is already moved

so from that I'd have to make some kind of Arc<Mutex<File>>>

[spare quartz]

What you’re doing is creating a new pointer to a file in every thread, and Java is complaining about it because that pointer has been reserved by somebody already; there’s multiple “files” here, but they all refer to the same “file,” making compiler checking impossible

It’s all an OS construct anyways

I SHOULD NOTE HOWEVER: I am totally uncertain of what your code is actually doing or looks like

This is all heuristics off of what you’ve shown me

Sigh I’m gonna wake up again

Brb

[timid quartz]

similar thing in rust with ownership

except rust catches this at compile time

[spare quartz]

Not at all

[timid quartz]

except instead of a "pointer" being "reserved", a "value" is "owned"

[spare quartz]

If we were to take this to rust with the same premise

All the rust compiler would see is that multiple threads would share the same path to the file, it couldn’t possibly know you’re opening that file on multiple threads in write mode

In Java the analogue to rust here would be a singleton with your FOS

Also… I just blue screened my computer by dropping the monitor on the GPU…

Siiiuiiighhhhh

[timid quartz]

mmm it can

because opening said file

would require the file to be mut

[spare quartz]

Okay but you’re still going off the fact that there’s only one “file” var

That just isn’t true on Java

You have multiple file vars

[timid quartz]

ok lovely

(supervisor main)

that works

[spare quartz]

God

Singh

I hate windows

Or maybe I hate PCIe

[timid quartz]

windows def

but dropping your monitor on your gpu

is bound to cause problems

[timid quartz]

this means im gonna have to pass the log directory

as an arg

another fucking arg

to the supervisor

[spare quartz]

nono, i thought the bluescreen saying "VIDEO_MEMORY_MANAGEMENT_ERROR" would restart my computer, and since i reseated the GPU it'd fix it

but it apparently restarted with the GPU still disconnected

??

[timid quartz]

lmao gg

[spare quartz]

so i had to reseat it and restart again

[timid quartz]

might have broken your pcie connector

just get a case

or somethign to cover the top

[spare quartz]

it works

okay let me open intellij

hmm

do i trust you..

okay, can you push

[timid quartz]

in a bit

lemme finish at least writing down the supervisor's logs somewhere

[spare quartz]

kill me

[timid quartz]

ok @spare quartz I pushed

[spare quartz]

one second

[timid quartz]

shoulda done this in rust I swear

[spare quartz]

no.

[spare quartz]

lemme just upgrade BSLs numeric parsing

NOOOOOOOOOOO

I CANT PLAY MY KONKON TOZAI OKITSUNE MONOGATARI SONGS

[timid quartz]

please dont update bsl or anything in my code

[spare quartz]

explain why

[timid quartz]

because I wanna do it

but not tn I wanna sleep tn

[spare quartz]

well i mean.. im not gonna stop you... but... doesn't that sorta defeat the whole git thing?

[timid quartz]

maybe but I wanna do it

I thought you just wanted to look at the code I have

[spare quartz]

well i do

[timid quartz]

and vomit at it

[spare quartz]

but i figured i might as well update bsl if you're not going to, before you said you didnt want that

anyways just let me make one more upgrade... and ill look at it...

[timid quartz]

I will

I just said later

.

[spare quartz]

yeah but later isnt exactly definite

anyways holddd onnn need to write some tests...

[timid quartz]

ugh fine Stallman

Tomorrow

[spare quartz]

one test... ignored??

1. you can consolidate this (fun status() = StatusResult ..., SEE ALSO: kotlin.Result)

2. again consolidatable

3. you should be using a logger handler for file writes; see second snapshot

4. you should be using readArgs (and additionally, there is an extension function you can use, args[1].toInt())

6. you can consolidate unicastremoteobject by inheriting it as a class

7. creation of directories can be simplified

8. instead of declaring these one-time variables, use gets() [/ with the current BSL version, put the index + cast in the if statement]

9. use ProcessHandle.current() instead

10. you should be consolidating registry accesses into one function

11. always log the exception on failure unless you are absolutely certain what the problem is

if you're worried about spam, ColoredLogger has this global variable you can use to control the output

12. refrain from using println at all costs (really, just use your own level if you believe it's absolutely critical to log; i'll make a level class in BSL you can take advantage of for coloring purposes)

[spare quartz]

13. addendum to 3, DO NOT pipe the contents of colored logger to a file blindly if you have coloring turned on in ColoredLogger; you will be logging the ANSI control characters which will look realllllly ugly in any plain text editor

this is why you should be using your own FileHandler

[spare quartz]

14. addendum to 12, the logger will create discernable gaps for a given log entry; AKA: do not put dashes in your code where a simple \n would work

15. use the kotlin inline .isEmpty() functions; or you can filter this out in conv in your argument

16. (more of a suggestion), instead of RuntimeMXBean, use the System property

17. for rigidity, you should probably make CarpoolSupervisorMainKt an object with its main function as a @JvmStatic function, which you then refer to by reflection; ex. CarpoolSupervisorMain::class.qualifiedName

18. trys are statements, which are collapsible with what was described in 2.

@timid quartz anyways heres my general overview of your code ^^^^

i just glanced over most of it

i cant do much more without being able to touch any of it

[spare quartz]

upgraded the logging apparatus just for you

[lyric mesa]

i ran nano on my mac expecting it to open nano (not knowing whether or not it had it) but apparently it opened something called pico instead
i think i am being deceived

it looks the same but the save keybind is different..

[spare quartz]

it appears they replaced it 3 years ago

and apparently pico used to redirect to nano before they did

[lyric mesa]

is there like any significant difference between the two?

[spare quartz]

i dont think theres any giant difference except that the license and key binds are different

[lyric mesa]

ah

[spare quartz]

@timid quartz

pretty cool thing i just found btw

https://wiki.openjdk.org/display/HotSpot/Ports

mmmb

[spare quartz]

might make a FileHandler for this too

[spare quartz]

making an extensible long for log banks and surprisingly this is nearly as optimal as the most efficient BigInteger storage

BigInteger has an edge of exactly 1 byte for certain payloads; but you need a size header

[rustic vine]

Why was aera up at 4??

Very unusual

[spare quartz]

i do not know

but i must now research this algorithm

[rustic vine]

The algorithm

[spare quartz]

because its somehow making an extra 516 bytes when at worst performance when it should be a flat 9,000

[rustic vine]

- 516

Yw

[rustic vine]

Wow these r nice

I still think the headers are wayyyyy too long tho

Also what are yall working on?

[spare quartz]

most of the header bloat comes from the logger name (i like to be verbose) and function name (kotlin is very closure heavy, which makes a ton of $lambda0$lambda2$lambdawhatever crap)

[spare quartz]

rn im working on making an efficient logging container format which is why i needed packed integers

i gotta make sure this algorithm is perfect though....

[rustic vine]

Ye I get the reasoning for it but I am of the opinion that the message logged should be most important and be easily visible

So having a long header makes it harder for me imo to see the actual message

[spare quartz]

aughh

wait its cause my math was off thats why

6+ 7+7+7 +7+7+7+ 7+7+7 = at worst, 10 bytes

[rustic vine]

U should let me contribute something so I can feel good abt myself 😁

[spare quartz]

im unsure about how i would take that comment though

i usually work off the assumption the logging console has infinite width

[rustic vine]

Huh wdym

[spare quartz]

this is always disabled

and the console is infinitely scrollable given an infinite width

[rustic vine]

Ye

I guess I just like the content of what was logged being closer to the left

[spare quartz]

oh yeah im the "opposite", i prefer center aligned content

my eyes are a little medically weird though so, probably not the greatest accessibility mindset...

[rustic vine]

No its fine its not a big deal or anything

[spare quartz]

i wonder when aera will wake up

hopefully he does not treat my 18 comments as ragebait

[rustic vine]

LOL

Code review

But yea seriously tho if you have something u think I could help with I'd be happy to do that. I haven't written Java for a real project in a little while

[spare quartz]

well you wont have to write any java if you do end up writing something

just kotlin

[rustic vine]

NOOOO

Oh ok wait thats chill

I been waiting for an excuse to learn it 😅

[spare quartz]

hmmm actually

you speak chinese pretty well right

[rustic vine]

Hopefully

[spare quartz]

would you mind writing 15 lines of translations for a directory entry system when you're available

[rustic vine]

I can prob do that

Idk what that implies

But probably 😁

[spare quartz]

well essentially

you just take this class, but replace the second string with... whatever it'd mean in chinese

[rustic vine]

Oh that's ez

Wth is loops

[spare quartz]

like a symlink loop, say you have the tree
a/b/c/
and "c" is a symlink back to the folder "a"

a/b/c/a/b/c/a... and so on

[rustic vine]

Oh hm ok

[spare quartz]

"store" is a little more nuanced, in japanese i have it written as 仮想ルートディレクトリ外 (virtual root directory), but its just "the root folder for files" for a given site

[lone sky]

isn't that the thing I translated

(with some assistance from ricard)

[spare quartz]

indeed

[rustic vine]

Ultimate modification

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1932163911681462357

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FixupX · Jun 9, 2025, 7:52 PM

perfect

i love arithmetic

Algorithm worst case (maximum):
(ceil((Long.SIZE_BITS - 6) / 7.0) + 1)

Range worst case:
var worstCase = 1
var remainder = max(abs(range.start), abs(range.last)) ushr 6
while (remainder != 0L) {
    remainder = remainder ushr 7
    worstCase++
}

[timid quartz]

Yap level horrendous

[spare quartz]

how.

[spare quartz]

010321041932

[timid quartz]

1, 2, 7, 9, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18: yeah sure whatever blah blah blah
3: well you SAID redirecting stdout was an option
4: didnt want to have to go through all the trouble for 3 args that USED to be 2
5: yeah I did realize I needed to move it and then didn't lmfao, that got moved to where it is last night
6: interesting
8: yknow oddly im inconsistent with even using these variables, but some of them are used in multiple places which is why I made a binding
10: Ok this one I have an actual explanation for. I need a quick check if the supervisor is online in two places: in startSupervisor() and right before processing any commands if -start wasn't supplied. Consolidating the registry accesses into one place would, imo, make the code a little more complicated and uglier
12: ok but IF using the logger to log actual program output that the user NEEDS to see, there's a chance that the user uses -log_level=OFF and gets none of the output they actually have requested to see from the commands

[spare quartz]

3. short term solution to your whines about logger level
4. does not matter be type safe
5. im only focusing on the aquisition of the supervisor, what you're doing with it is other matters
6. if the user says to keep the log off, they say to keep the log off, so why not respect that

elaborated list order cause discord sucks

[timid quartz]

6. if the user says to keep logging off we keep logging off, but by virtue of this being a CLI program there is some output that is expected to be given upon command invocation

[timid quartz]

if you'll notice, I stuck a bunch of numbers in the first point

[spare quartz]

please use the correct index. what is 6

[timid quartz]

your 6

[spare quartz]

my 12?

[timid quartz]

yeah my 12

[spare quartz]

OK

[spare quartz]

no thats what your status codes are for

[timid quartz]

??? my status codes???

[spare quartz]

program

exit

status codes

[timid quartz]

atp if someone does carpool -list_services and nothing pops up

that's a problem

[spare quartz]

yeah

cause they said -level=OFF

[timid quartz]

but that's stupid

[spare quartz]

the default level isnt gonna be OFF unless they specifically say its off

and if you're so worried about someone doing it on accident then just

prevent them from doing so in conv

[timid quartz]

but then what about "rEsPeCtInG tHe UsEr'S wIsHeS"

[spare quartz]

i already elaborated my points for both of your options

you either let the user turn off the log, or prevent them

using println and a logger is just. weird

and ugly

[timid quartz]

anyways

[spare quartz]

anyways correct i should stop playing my plane game demo

and resume work on that efficient logging format

[timid quartz]

(your #5, my #10) yes the REASON I acquire it in two places is because the acquisition could fail if the supervisor is offline, or for other reasons. I acquire it in two places because one "acquisition" is checking if it CAN be acquired (and the callers that I have expect different results), and the other "acquisition" is actually grabbing it to be used

[spare quartz]

sooo

why not use a Result<T>

if acquisition fails

[timid quartz]

cause your silly lang doesnt have that

[spare quartz]

it

does

i literally told you

in that list

it does

[timid quartz]

no u didnt

[spare quartz]

you might be dumb

see also .runCatching

[timid quartz]

StatusResult is my own invention

[spare quartz]

its useless

kotlin result is superior programming

anyways (that was obvious ragebait btw i didnt really consider what your class was good at)

use the kotlin.result class for the acquisition of supervisor safely

[timid quartz]

I just dont think you understand why I have the two different acquisitions

[spare quartz]

i see duplicate code

[timid quartz]

let me try refactoring it to be one acquisition

[timid quartz]

the two problems are here

upon removing that function

you can now see how they were used

[spare quartz]

i dont see any impedences

[spare quartz]

mmbmm

i still dislike how the worst case scenario is 25% worse than raw longs

but considering the ranges at hand are -9223372036854775808 to 9223372036854775807 ... i think its okay...

let me compute its maximum range before it loses to raw longs

[timid quartz]

I bet your result type isn't even zero-cost

[spare quartz]

-36028797018963968 .. 36028797018963967

this is the maximum range produced before it loses to raw longs

unfortunately this is only 0.390625% of the scale of a long, however..... it is acceptable

[timid quartz]

also fuck you

[spare quartz]

ITS A GOOD SONG...

JUST IGNORE SOME OF THE LYRICS..

[timid quartz]

you are my biggest opp

[spare quartz]

the term isnt exactly applicable to the JVM

[timid quartz]

exactly

[spare quartz]

because in rust it'd mean machine code that replicates the behavior of the construct at hand w/o needing an object in memory to hold state for its operation, but in the JVM such operations are at the whim of HotSpot...

[timid quartz]

bad lang bad runtime

[spare quartz]

which can do whatever it wants...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5d/Waventerference.gif/310px-Waventerference.gif

[spare quartz]

problem exists between chair and computer

[timid quartz]

yeah YOU

YOU'RE the problem

[spare quartz]

noooooope

[timid quartz]

should have just written this in rust fr

[spare quartz]

rustlets when they comprehend something beyond their little brains

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-ishmael-drive-car-limbus-company-ishmael-gif-16221635586688186070

[spare quartz]

"i should rewrite this in rust"

[lone sky]

you don't understand

the solution to lifes problems is called rust

[spare quartz]

wrong

its bayachao media

(and the associated dogs)

[lone sky]

yeah lol

I was just mocking aerasstos thought process

[timid quartz]

on the contrary I think this is so far BELOW me that I'm struggling to dumb myself down enough

[spare quartz]

nope

[timid quartz]

anyways your lang sucks and you should feel bad

[lone sky]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-the-steak-steak-with-face-gif-27290931

[spare quartz]

the JVM is like a 3d object moving in your little 2d world

[timid quartz]

it's not even smart enough to know that trySupervisor is an exception after I've checked .isFailure

[spare quartz]

beeecause those are two separate things

[timid quartz]

?? how

[spare quartz]

you cant be this dumb

[timid quartz]

in rust a Result is either Ok or Err

[spare quartz]

aerrra

use the closure functions aerrrrra

use the closuresssss

use the cllllloososuress

[timid quartz]

the rust code would look like

// snip
} else if trySupervisor.is_err() {
  let err = trySupervisor.err().unwrap();
}

[spare quartz]

you can do that in kotlin too

[timid quartz]

and Err means that something failed

[spare quartz]

in fact

you're literally doing that rn

!! is your .unwrap()

but use the closure functions pls

use the closuresss

uuuuuuse the closureess

[timid quartz]

there is no dissonance between .isFailure and .exceptionOrNull()

[spare quartz]

uuuuuuuseee the fclooooosurueuusss

[timid quartz]

rust is .is_err() and .err()

there is no dissonance

[spare quartz]

uuuuuuuseeee

CLOSURES!!!

[lone sky]

@timid quartz HOLY SHIT

NATIVE LINUX CONTAINERS ON MACOS 26?????

[timid quartz]

wait what

[spare quartz]

yes

they made a github repo

https://github.com/apple/containerization

bad design

[lone sky]

ok but

you gotta admit that's actually huge

[spare quartz]

no

its awful

[lone sky]

WHY AM I GETTING JAPANESE NEWS WHEN GOOGLING ABOUT THIS

[spare quartz]

chao

[lone sky]

smh.

you and your windows glass house.

🙄

[timid quartz]

is this what your gay closure ass would do huh??? huh???

[spare quartz]

"windows"

i dont care about the os

i just hate containers

[spare quartz]

umm give me a second to look at

whatever this is

i dislike this

but it looks fine

good job!

closures are the future

[lone sky]

wtf is wrong with containers 🪠 🪠

[timid quartz]

fun main(args: Array<String>) {
    val (singleArgs, multipleArgs) = readArgs(
        args,
        FLAGS,
        "Application Carpool",
        "A program for running your applications in the background."
    )
    LOGGER.level = singleArgs["log_level"] as Level
    LOGGER.fine("Reading arguments")

    val start = singleArgs["start"] as Boolean
    val stop = singleArgs["stop"] as Boolean
    val port = singleArgs["port"] as Int
    val logDir = singleArgs["log_directory"] as Path

    val trySupervisor: Result<Supervisor> = runCatching {
        val registry = LocateRegistry.getRegistry(port)
        registry.lookup("CarpoolSupervisor") as Supervisor
    }

    logDir.createDirectories()

    if (start) {
        if (stop) {
            LOGGER.severe("Please only use EITHER -start or -stop.")
            exitProcess(1)
        }
        trySupervisor.onSuccess {
            val supervisorPid = it.status().pid
            LOGGER.severe("You have asked to start the supervisor daemon, but it appears to already be running (PID $supervisorPid).")
            exitProcess(1)
        }

        spawnSupervisor(LOGGER.level, port, logDir)
        LOGGER.info("Giving the supervisor time to wake up...")
        Thread.sleep(1000)
    }

    trySupervisor.onFailure { e ->
        LOGGER.log(Level.SEVERE, e) { "The supervisor daemon does not appear to be running. Please start it with -start." }
        exitProcess(1)
    }
    trySupervisor.onSuccess { supervisor ->
        if (stop)
            try {
                supervisor.stop()
            } catch (_: UnmarshalException) {  // expected, so ignore
            } finally {
                LOGGER.info("Supervisor daemon stopped")
                exitProcess(0)
            }

        handleCommands(singleArgs.filterKeys { SINGLE_COMMANDS.contains(it) }, multipleArgs, supervisor)
    }
}

that's the whole function

have fun

[spare quartz]

provision justification

[spare quartz]

i do not want to review this

[timid quartz]

REVIEW IT

[spare quartz]

nnno

provide good reason for me to

[timid quartz]

since youre complaining about my code

review it

[spare quartz]

aerrra im tired

i should've slept ... 10 hours ago

[timid quartz]

womp WOMP

[lone sky]

YEAH YOU WERE ALREADY ON YOUR BEDSHEETS

SMH...

[spare quartz]

my bottles*

[lone sky]

YOU SUCK AT SLEEPING.

oh right you sleep on mtn dew

im convinced you would fill a waterbed with that demonic liquid

and sleep on that

[spare quartz]

that's a bad idea

it'd ferment

[timid quartz]

also I made use of those variables I made

that you disliked

[spare quartz]

show use _

[lone sky]

then you get alcoholic mtn dew

[timid quartz]

yum

[spare quartz]

ive made alcoholic coke before

[lone sky]

yellowdog updater modified?

[timid quartz]

read the code I pasted above

[spare quartz]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[timid quartz]

the only one not used more than once is start

and I refactored it

[spare quartz]

nooooooooooooooo

[timid quartz]

go chug a 2L

[timid quartz]

then you'll be fine

[spare quartz]

pls update bs

bsl

[lone sky]

what went wrong for you to get into the touhou rabbit hole

[timid quartz]

RAAAH

LATER

[spare quartz]

plsss

plssssssssssssssss

[spare quartz]

i didnt do anything

youtube suggested it to me

and its kinda a banger

[lone sky]

yeah alright

i'll take your word

[timid quartz]

give up

give up

give up, give it up

[spare quartz]

my playlist rn

[lone sky]

OH MY GOD I ALMOST SHAT A MARBLE

[spare quartz]

OK

[timid quartz]

wtf

[lone sky]

NOT HIDEO KOJIMA POSTING A HEADLINE THAT SAYS "The life and death of hideo kojima"

[timid quartz]

wait atp

aha

[spare quartz]

im SO tired

[timid quartz]

aha aha

[spare quartz]

WHAT DO YOU WNAT

[timid quartz]

so

[spare quartz]

LongCounted(-1000000000000000)
stream.writeExtensibleLongCounted(-1000000000)
stream.writeExtensibleLongCounted(-1000)
stream.writeExtensibleLongCounted(-1)
stream.writeExtensibleLongCounted(0)
stream.writeExtensibleLongCounted(1)
stream.writeExtensibleLongCounted(

[timid quartz]

we have this right

[timid quartz]

simple little LAMBDA

[spare quartz]

YES MA'AM.. YOU HAVE THAT.. RIGHT..

WHAT ABOUT It.

[timid quartz]

so if we say -start, we do this thing

where if trySupervisor is successful we say "oh it's already started and quit"

but if it's NOT then we continue to the next thing where we spawn the supervisor

[spare quartz]

oh yeah btw

you can chain your on calls

onsuccess {} . on failreu r{ER} E{R@{

[timid quartz]

HOWEVER

AFTER THE START BLOCK

WE EXIT

with the supervisor started

[spare quartz]

uh huh.....

[timid quartz]

YET

[spare quartz]

im super tired aere...

[timid quartz]

trySupervisor IS STILL FAILURE

[spare quartz]

im super tired..

[timid quartz]

THIS is why I had the stupid thing SPLIT

[spare quartz]

i dont see the problem ..

[timid quartz]

and was accessing the registry in two places

[spare quartz]

cause i cant parse your logic rn.. im so tired..

[timid quartz]

the supervisor is started after the code that handles-start so we should be able to send commands to it

[spare quartz]

okay...

[timid quartz]

but

trySupervisor

is still failure

meaninig

we wont handle commands

we will fail

[spare quartz]

why is trysupervisor a fialure_

[timid quartz]

because trySupervisor means that the supervisor is probably offline

if it's a failure

[spare quartz]

you kow what

just stop talking

can you send an update_

[timid quartz]

val trySupervisor = <try to get supervisor>
if (start flag) {
  trySupervisor.ensureIsFailure()
  // trySupervisor is most definitely a failure here
  startSupervisor()
}
// trySupervisor is most definitely a failure if we go
// through the if (start flag) block
// but the supervisor gets started in there, so correct
// behavhior is going to .onSuccess
trySupervisor.onFailure { complain() }
             .onSuccess { handleCommands() }

there @spare quartz

[spare quartz]

........0

[spare quartz]

okay then

just...

just

[timid quartz]

just

[spare quartz]

.onFailure in an else statement

and .onsuccess in a finally

(outside)

god im so tired my english comprehensio n is very bad rigth ow..

[timid quartz]

I did have it like that originally

[rustic vine]

is this the karen npc script

[timid quartz]

should have kept it ig

[timid quartz]

yes

[rustic vine]

tryGetSupervisor

[spare quartz]

aera conservatism.. bring back the old aera...

[rustic vine]

bring back the la riots

nvm they already did

wth goin on in la

they r cooked

[timid quartz]

out with the old atp that's stupid and uses kotlin, in with the new atp that's smart and uses rust

[spare quartz]

idk the marines are invading it

[rustic vine]

oh ok good

[spare quartz]

they're planning to annex la into the us

[rustic vine]

my peaceful protest when I throw rocks and shoot fireworks

[spare quartz]

cyanide pill in teeth

[timid quartz]

actually this wont work

[rustic vine]

aren't those supposed to be defective or something

[timid quartz]

because trySupervisor is STILL

a failure

[spare quartz]

why_

[timid quartz]

so .onSuccess won't run

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

val trySupervisor = <try to get supervisor>
if (start flag) {
  trySupervisor.ensureIsFailure()
  // trySupervisor is most definitely a failure here
  startSupervisor()
} else {
  trySupervisor.onFailure { complain() }
}
// trySupervisor is most definitely a failure if we go
// through the if (start flag) block, so .onSuccess
// will not run
trySupervisor.onSuccess { handleCommands() }

[lone sky]

would kill myself. 0/10

[spare quartz]

?

your comment is illogical

[timid quartz]

.onSuccess wont' run

[timid quartz]

clarified

[spare quartz]

val trySupervisor = <try to get supervisor>
if (start flag) {
  trySupervisor.ensureIsFailure()
  // trySupervisor is most definitely a failure here
  startSupervisor()
  handleCommands()
} else trySupervisor.onSuccess { handleCommands() }.onFailure { complain() }

[timid quartz]

two handleCommands() 🤢

[spare quartz]

doesn't matter

you're like a mind toxin

[timid quartz]

YOU'RE the mind toxin

you've poisoned my mind

[spare quartz]

@spare quartz "how do i make my logics work :<<<<"

you rn

sned baychaao

[timid quartz]

cause I'm using a STUPID LANGUAGE

that's DUMB

and INANE

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/IskJ7JdJx8U?list=RDhJ0lbU5WKzM&t=23

you need to listen to bayahcap .

[timid quartz]

you're basically my chatgpt

[spare quartz]

you're literally the green sludge in this photo

[lone sky]

hello schizophrenic dog woman

[timid quartz]

no im the ROCK

[spare quartz]

thats a regular ass woman

??

[timid quartz]

you're the algae eating away at me

leeching off of me

[spare quartz]

nnnoo

[lone sky]

that's a schizophrenic woman

maybe not a dog

but certainly schizo

[spare quartz]

bayachao hasn't posted ap hoto in like.. one week

i think shes dead irl

[lone sky]

oh nonono

[spare quartz]

her last reposted photo was... devilun with thighs...

it killed her

💔

[lone sky]

I know a way to bring them back to life.

BUT

I will need the value of a nintendo switch 2.

[spare quartz]

im ngl

if we had bayachao and poshi working on snl instead of qs

it would've been out 6 years ago

[timid quartz]

ok checkmate liberal

[spare quartz]

aera secret technique

reveal parameter unknown to me

[lone sky]

javascript to luau interpreter

[timid quartz]

val trySupervisor = <try to get supervisor>
if (start flag) {
  trySupervisor.ensureIsFailure()
  // trySupervisor is most definitely a failure here
  startSupervisor()

  // cannot get supervisor here without another reigstry call
  // because it's a failure
  handleCommands(supervisor)
} else trySupervisor.onSuccess { handleCommands(it) }.onFailure { complain() }

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

okay

hear me out

have you heard of something called a RECURSIVE function

[timid quartz]

ew wtf

why would you reach for recursion

[spare quartz]

fun a()
  trysupervisor?!???!
  if (supervisorISDEAD & start) {
    startsuer..
    return a()
  }
  .onsuc.onfial..
}

recursion ..

[lone sky]

i found footage of aerasto irl btw @spare quartz

[timid quartz]

MULTIPLE REGISTRY ACCESSES!!!

RAAAH

[spare quartz]

I DONT CARE

ITS USING THE SAME FUNCTION

ITS THEREFORE ONE INSTANCE!

CACHE THE REGISTRY IF YOU MUST BUT ITS A STUB!

[timid quartz]

footage of atp irl

[lone sky]

yeah that's apt-get

[spare quartz]

this is bayachao btw

[lone sky]

worst package manager btw

worst package manager for the worst distro

[timid quartz]

two different calls!!!!!!

[lone sky]

dnf and pacman 🔛 🔝

[spare quartz]

im goin gto hit you with a hammer irl

literally im gonna go to ... like, where do ou live agian..

umm

can you show me your ip

[timid quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-smile-smile-cat-dance-dance-gif-16643801836941785535

[spare quartz]

pls

[lone sky]

they live under a bridge in north bergen

or some shit

[spare quartz]

what the fuck is bergen

i just know they're a smelly cs college student

[lone sky]

idk i'm not a crab i wouldn't know where they live

[spare quartz]

with harry.

aera... pls..

dont say another contradictory statement..

i beg of you ..

pls..

[timid quartz]

at that point I might as well just

var trySupervisor = <try to get supervisor>
if (start flag) {
  trySupervisor.ensureFailure()
  startSupervisor()
  trySupervisor = <try again to get supervisor>
  trySupervisor.onSuccess { handleCommands(it) }.onFailure { complain() }
}

[spare quartz]

USE RECURSION

!!!!!

THE CALL STACK IS YOUR FRRRRIEND

[timid quartz]

or just disallow doing something like carpool -start -add_service

[lone sky]

LMFAO

[timid quartz]

(basically dont handle commands after start)

[lone sky]

THE DUDE SITTING BESIDES ME INSTALLED ARC BROWSER

POOR SOUL

[lone sky]

hi schizo dog

[timid quartz]

I think I will do this

much easier

[spare quartz]

waaaaaahh

😭

[timid quartz]

?? what

boo hoo you have to use two commands now

[spare quartz]

you couldve just usd recusrion.. and preserved functionality..

waaaahhhhhhhh

[lone sky]

can someone check this audio for me rq

[timid quartz]

UGHHHH

RECURSION MORE LIKE

GROSS

[spare quartz]

do they teach you as if recursion is SATAN in cs

[timid quartz]

the call stack is not your friend

[spare quartz]

IT IS

you're not gonna be starting a supervisor 9000 times

[timid quartz]

throw new StackOverflowException

[spare quartz]

nooooo

[spare quartz]

@lone sky you know

this would technically mean... its devilun..

aera has devilun in his code..

[lone sky]

LOL

[timid quartz]

yeah it's called KOTLIN

[spare quartz]

awwww

you love it

[timid quartz]

no I HATE IT

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-15653907485788873844

[spare quartz]

oky.

im gonna go ly down ,now

[lone sky]

@timid quartz is rivals any fun

and if so,

is it paid

[timid quartz]

marvel rivals?

@lone sky ^^

[lone sky]

no

the game you're playing

that's called that

or was it warriors??

idk i might be stupido

[timid quartz]

the finals??

[lone sky]

YEAH

THAT THING

[timid quartz]

yeah I think it's fun

and it's free

[spare quartz]

Mmmb I should play more games..

[timid quartz]

you should use better programming langs

[lone sky]

you should

[spare quartz]

Mmmb

[lone sky]

playing NTOT and debikone all day is not gaming

that's just called cycling between two complex artbooks

[spare quartz]

patches …

[spare quartz]

No I just don’t play games

I code all day

They locked me in a chamber with YouTube and IntelliJ

[rustic vine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/472407264700006420/1381653079329603725/d75d767aa78f48a38bd859a6e94f469b.mov?ex=68499db3&is=68484c33&hm=4c0b3f8b88a2f1063c6f9f346882f6a16ed0490d4ef086bc78640122d90ebf80&

[spare quartz]

That’s aera after his first bottle btw

[timid quartz]

fuckinggg

I did your stupid recursive refactor

[timid quartz]

and now it gets connectionrefused

on reconnect

[spare quartz]

Why

?

[timid quartz]

this is why I never listen toy ou

[spare quartz]

Why? Does it ?

Do that ?

[spare quartz]

Start it then

Stupid

[timid quartz]

I DID

[spare quartz]

Okay

[timid quartz]

the process starts

[spare quartz]

Then why isn’t it binding

[timid quartz]

IDFK!!!!

[spare quartz]

Fix itttt

[timid quartz]

IM TRYING!!!

[timid quartz]

you said that the recursion thing

would be the "same instance"

maybe that's why

[spare quartz]

Syesvhurt ..

[timid quartz]

ugh

go sleep idiot

[spare quartz]

Trying..

But this green rank guy is being bad at life..

Bayaaachaaaoo

[timid quartz]

OH WAIT

I KNOW WHY

[spare quartz]

Why..

[timid quartz]

I was playing myself basically

[timid quartz]

Cae was right about Kotlin cuh

Pure cope lang

That’s going obsolete

[spare quartz]

No,

[timid quartz]

yes

[spare quartz]

❌

[timid quartz]

go back to sleep

you still have 8 hours left

[timid quartz]

asleep again

[spare quartz]

No

Eating my candy

[timid quartz]

go back to sleep

[spare quartz]

No

Candy ..

[timid quartz]

you only slept like

8.5h

you need more sleep

[spare quartz]

That’s forever

[timid quartz]

yes yes atp good idea

[lone sky]

aera

[timid quartz]

sleep forever.

[lone sky]

sybau

[spare quartz]

Noooo

[timid quartz]

?ban

[upbeat badge]

**Command:** ?ban

Description: Ban a member, optional time limit
Cooldown: 3 seconds
Usage:
?ban [user] [limit] [reason]
?ban save [user] [limit] [reason]
?ban noappeal [user] [limit] [reason]
Example:
?ban bean making bugs
?ban save gin 2d needs to calm down
?ban noappeal piguy dont come back

[lone sky]

you should be the one sleeping forever

at most

smh.

[timid quartz]

@lone sky

[lone sky]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1056350633399156756/1090371622319435776/reaaaaaa-1.gif

[timid quartz]

we found atp's pills

[timid quartz]

also this is kinda interesting

also also LLVM JIT HAHHAHAHAHA

[spare quartz]

Kys!!!

GCC AND LLVM JVM 💪

[timid quartz]

we already have that

it's called rustc

[spare quartz]

that’s trash

just like clr

digital e-waste

[timid quartz]

well damn guess kotlin is in the landfill already then

[spare quartz]

no.

[timid quartz]

like @JvmStatic pure jvm copium right there

[spare quartz]

hammers to your skull!!!

[timid quartz]

"oooh you have to have a static function and we took away your silly keyword for it"

[spare quartz]

because you don’t need a static in Kotlin

[timid quartz]

unless it's a main method

which again....jvm copium

[spare quartz]

Main methods are literally static by default

Outside of classes

Moron

[timid quartz]

jvm copium

[spare quartz]

Morrron

https://tenor.com/view/rust-rust-lang-ferris-programming-jarvis-gif-7441835028842397805

[timid quartz]

rust:

struct MyBetterClass {
  fn static_method() { /* ... */ }
  fn non_static_method(&self) { /* ... */ }
}

[spare quartz]

☣️

[timid quartz]

ur the real biohazard

[spare quartz]

chaohazard

[timid quartz]

biochaozard

[lone sky]

dude oh my god

i went back through my old messages in here

and found out that one shitty discord ripoff called revolt was built on rust

[timid quartz]

yes

1. revolt aint shitty
2. rust 💪

[lone sky]

1. yes it is
2. memory safety copium

[timid quartz]

have u even used either revolt or rust

answer: no

that's what I thought

[lone sky]

first one yes

i used revolt for like 3 days

quickly left cause it was unbearable (front end wise)

[timid quartz]

probably more polished than the last time you used it

[lone sky]

the backend is probably really good

but look i'm no nerd and all i know about rust is that it's a faraday cage for memory

or well i'm 1/3rd of a nerd

[timid quartz]

anyways

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/608350433508851732/1381966269183688824/RDT_20250610_1655083936826563404044379.jpg?ex=684a18a2&is=6848c722&hm=5d3544ea5ff92eb66b4051c746c745cb3de4ce28e2e70125797d8c2ea3a86331&

apple "liquid glass" be like

[lone sky]

the other two thirds were lost in transi-

[lone sky]

DO NOT UTTER THE WORDS LIQUID GLASS HERE

I

AM NOT

A FAN OF IT.

[spare quartz]

give up

give up

give up

[timid quartz]

look at the meme idiot

[lone sky]

(on desktop)

[lone sky]

and yes that's true

[timid quartz]

chaoizard

[timid quartz]

lol atp you should get like $400

and commission a chaoizard

[spare quartz]

thats correct

[lone sky]

don't hear aerasto

[timid quartz]

or well I WOULD say that if it didnt mean giving bayachao money

giving bayacaho money is always a net evil

[lone sky]

please give me more tamamo-no-mar art.

[spare quartz]

soo

you wouldn't mind if i commissioned 迷犬 instead

??

[lone sky]

string.comeback("Processing comeback, please try again later.")

[timid quartz]

mmmm close enough to bayachao, still net evil

anyone within 2 degrees of connection to bayachao

so bayachao, her friends, and the friends of her friends

[spare quartz]

okay what about poshi then

[timid quartz]

who is that

[spare quartz]

hes not bayachaos friend...

thats their husband..

[timid quartz]

still net evil

related by marriage

[spare quartz]

okay

efficient logging format

need to think this

[timid quartz]

huffman code

huffman code

huffman code

[spare quartz]

bank format: [extensible integer (index)][huffman encoded string]...

log format: [extensible integer (level)][extensible integer (time)][extensible integer (logger name)][extensible integer (logger method)][extensible integer (thread id)][[extensible integer (index)]...]...

[timid quartz]

how about

.txt

[spare quartz]

i was planning on making it multimodal

[timid quartz]

give up

give up

give up

give it up

[spare quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099482737234169876/1277260263711838313/watermark.gif

[lone sky]

@timid quartz do I really need to know javascript to make a website

or can I rawdog it

[timid quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/589292970541318185/1064800857905958922/attachment.gif

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

not at all

https://justfuckingusehtml.com

[spare quartz]

https://x.com/TheRealGDColon

Colon :🦊: (@TheRealGDColon) on X

Entertainer, programmer, punctuation, kitsune. I came here to shitpost and shitpost I will.

(PFP by @_emotiK0N & banner by @lowerkse)

X

found your account on twitter

[pastel tinsel]

lmao

[timid quartz]

you wish