💽Programming Chat v2

[spare quartz]

not usable

[timid quartz]

if it's not 100% done it's like 66% done

[timid quartz]

wdym nto useable

[pallid loom]

professionally mounted

[spare quartz]

rust coded

[timid quartz]

kotlin*

[spare quartz]

at least that cable is shielded

unlike our servers

[timid quartz]

lol

[spare quartz]

i wish HTTPS DNS wasn't a thing

nobodys ip on here is actually their ip

its just google/cloudflare services

[pallid loom]

the alarm system

[timid quartz]

why do you want dhcp

[spare quartz]

mak e it for your toy os

[timid quartz]

in C

https://preview.redd.it/88eeerdoipue1.jpeg?width=565&auto=webp&s=288a56aad4a8e5b6887566c123ca0a33695c090a

[pallid loom]

completely unrelated question

what do you think the most used DB is

[spare quartz]

CSV

[pallid loom]

could be but isn't

[timid quartz]

I'm tempted to say MySQL but I'm betting it's something like Oracle or Postgres

[pallid loom]

it's actually sqlite

[timid quartz]

oh that makes sense

[pallid loom]

running on every android device

[timid quartz]

multiple instances on every android device lo

[pallid loom]

• a whole buncha other shit

[pallid loom]

yeah

sqlite is actually really nice

been using it for a bit

all a basic project really needs

easily scales and isn't intensive on performance

[spare quartz]

no fucking way

it really is on 3 billion devices

[timid quartz]

I bet some of those run Rust on them too :3

[pallid loom]

welcome back java

[pallid loom]

most of it is Kotlin though

like a solid 85%

if we're talking apps

is the os then it's mostly c

[timid quartz]

Oh yeah for sure

But it only takes one rust app to say rust is running on it

[pallid loom]

late to the party

we got brainfuck running on android before rust

[timid quartz]

ok well we got C running on android before Java

[pallid loom]

true

[spare quartz]

im such a good network admin

[timid quartz]

atproto

Bluesky

[spare quartz]

二次創作、悪意や宗教政治絡まなければ好き放題やってほしい

[timid quartz]

Lots of kanji…

[spare quartz]

i cannot show you the post after that

[timid quartz]

@pallid loom

[pallid loom]

Jesus that must be bad then

[spare quartz]

もうこの世にはゲーム溢れてるから自分のゲームに時間を割いてもらえるよう、選ばれるために自分にしか作れないものと価格で勝負するしかない もはやお金いらないから私のゲームで遊んでくれ…

[timid quartz]

魔魔魔　マジカル・アンド・マラクル
この広い世界へ飛び出そ

[spare quartz]

HALT

[timid quartz]

std::mem::forget

[spare quartz]

https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/essential/io/notification.html

Gonna look into this for more efficient file and DNS service

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/notify-rs/notify

[spare quartz]

why do you need a crate to breathe oxygen

[timid quartz]

cause

stdlib only provides lungs

why is everything bundled into your stdlib

[spare quartz]

because we can

[timid quartz]

idk

not my favorite design choice

[timid quartz]

Oh no

[spare quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1228412635972763789.webp?size=4096

[timid quartz]

fat fuck

[spare quartz]

RUDe

just gotta integrate it onto this

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/0sOu0pEnTc8

scp:sl time

[timid quartz]

turn it into Ada time

actually question

considering Ada’s tasks

Consider an http server

How do you spawn more tasks to handle more requests

cause the number that you can have with a subprogram is fixed right

[spare quartz]

using access-to-task types

I believe the maximum tasks you can have is operating system dependent but the last stat I saw was in the thousands

[timid quartz]

explain

[spare quartz]

task type B;
type A is access B;

[timid quartz]

and then how use

[spare quartz]

you call the rendevous functions in B thru A

[timid quartz]

but is that really making new tasks per request?

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

seems like it's just reusing that task

[spare quartz]

you're supposed to create a new instance of B with a reference to it thru A

then you can use that access however you want

ad-hoc or store it in a fixed size vector

directory listing ...
client requests directory
check for directory cache
found?

• check directory watcher
• changes?
  • GOTO not found
• no changes?
  • send back cached list
    not found?
• compute and send back computed directory listing

(same process can be done for DNS record RR computation)

[timid quartz]

hello yes I would like companion object sandwiches please

[spare quartz]

this is just a regular object

put your head on the right way

[timid quartz]

https://programmerhumor.io/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/programmerhumor-io-backend-memes-programming-memes-0a239786bc8b3a2.png

[spare quartz]

"discrete is better" mfs when they see words

[timid quartz]

https://preview.redd.it/averagekotlindeveloper-v0-lmxs37i7k31e1.png?auto=webp&s=87f57055c6bf0a4510858d7894180a5a8fe368ed

https://i.redd.it/wp614y0xjqqb1.jpg

[spare quartz]

we're better than java
arrayOf() or toTypedArray
no
yeah

[spare quartz]

dont use kotlin async

[timid quartz]

https://preview.redd.it/stopdoingasync-v0-er2so83vv7fc1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=8a64e242bab9f6229e473a1d174b11d5cba25183

[spare quartz]

"no!!!! you have to use 900000 futures!!!!"

Threaad.ofVirtual():

[spare quartz]

TRUE

TRUE

TRUE

[timid quartz]

(false)

[spare quartz]

word up

[timid quartz]

https://i.redd.it/ohhs1x8l7bk61.png

oooh that's a good one

@spare quartz "Write once, use a different version anywhere"

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/q6SsyHgrvEw

not super certain on this working

but gonna try it out

[timid quartz]

STOP DOING ADA

• Computers were meant to compute, not to be bossed around in Pascal's evening gown
• Ada is a PERSON, not a programming language
• "with Text_IO; use Text_IO;" — sounds like a Victorian etiquette manual
• You can't just "raise an exception" — that's called being rude
• "Hello, I would like mod 2 ** 5 apples please"
  They have played us for absolute fools

[spare quartz]

second point is wrong

the person IS the programming language

[timid quartz]

"RENDEZVOUS"? ARE WE SCHEDULING A DATE OR WRITING CONCURRENT CODE?

lmfao that's great

If Ada Lovelace knew you were using ALGORITHMS to make VIDEO GAMES she would WRITE A STRONGLY WORDED LETTER

LOL

Strong typing? The only STRONG TYPING Ada did was on a MECHANICAL CALCULATING ENGINE

The Department of Defense should DEFEND us FROM Ada not MANDATE it

@spare quartz LMFAO

THAT LAST ONE

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/chef-skinner-suprised-speeded-up-ratatouille-version2-gif-20704217

[timid quartz]

this one and the two after it were generated by claude

honestly

pretty good for ai

[spare quartz]

horrible

oh right

BLS 1.14 and static server 1.3 are incompatible with each otehr

i need to make a static server 1.4..

[timid quartz]

bls?

[spare quartz]

BSL**

[timid quartz]

bsl??

[spare quartz]

bread_server_library-code

[timid quartz]

o

[spare quartz]

i believe our DNS, router, maven, mail, and ws-facilitation services run it

[rustic vine]

lol

[spare quartz]

the maven, mail, ws-facilitation are a subset that runs static-server, an executable library for HTTP servers (on BSL)

[rustic vine]

that looks just as bad as c why would you use js 😭

[timid quartz]

rust on top

[rustic vine]

is there even lapack for rust

oh hey, there is

[timid quartz]

lol I love the amount of unsafe

[rustic vine]

where?

[spare quartz]

https://github.com/blas-lapack-rs/blas/blob/main/src/lib.rs

presumably here and alike repos

[rustic vine]

oh lol

😅

if only everyone would just use a better lang

[rustic vine]

I guess its fast though

like, a lot a bit fast

[spare quartz]

a lot a bit?

[rustic vine]

yea

do people not say that

[spare quartz]

no

[rustic vine]

no I swear its a thing

yea it is

[spare quartz]

nope

[rustic vine]

it means a lot of bit

which is the inverse of a little bit

[spare quartz]

that isn't real

[rustic vine]

its real

[spare quartz]

imaginary

perhaps even complex

[rustic vine]

you sure you've never heard

anyone say

a lot a bit something

[spare quartz]

im 100% sure

[rustic vine]

u crazy

[spare quartz]

i've heard "quite a bit"

but never "a lot a bit"

[rustic vine]

aera will back me up

right? surely

[spare quartz]

codev doing quaternion debug work again hooray

[rustic vine]

whats is codev

nice axes

[spare quartz]

the person i work with in this mod

[rustic vine]

is that their name

[spare quartz]

no

[rustic vine]

oh

what is codev

[spare quartz]

chris from neco

[rustic vine]

then

what

wait but whats codev

OH

CO DEV

[spare quartz]

yes

idiot

[rustic vine]

bruh

I was reading it like

codec

codev

like

idk bruh

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-chase-anaconda-running-away-python-gif-9360595768170663218

[rustic vine]

like 1 word

wth whys that snake so fast

[spare quartz]

this is why hyphens should be removed from english

[spare quartz]

he tried to run a python 2 program on python 3

[rustic vine]

ohhhh

[timid quartz]

that's your language

[spare quartz]

AERA!!!!!!!!

[timid quartz]

!!!!

[rustic vine]

what happened

to the messages

that followed

I didn't even get a chance to read them

and they were taken away

[timid quartz]

ferris ❤️

[spare quartz]

idk aeras schizo

[rustic vine]

whaat is goin on

[timid quartz]

atp is schizo

[spare quartz]

https://youtu.be/IskJ7JdJx8U

[rustic vine]

wrong representation of the lang

I need a slow snake

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/for-real-seriously-wtf-what-gif-26543410

[rustic vine]

python problem

import solution
✅ solved

[timid quartz]

nah bro disabled the GIL

[spare quartz]

the python vm is just the jvm but for lazy people

[rustic vine]

ohhhh wait thats genius

[spare quartz]

cool!!

[proud creek]

message.txt

[spare quartz]

the directory cache works!

[proud creek]

I love mobile

[spare quartz]

now i just gotta attach HTTP caching to this

using MD5

[spare quartz]

HTTP caching added

[spare quartz]

right

need to add caching to individual files now

[timid quartz]

there’s a reason people don’t write microcontrollers in Java

me when I’m flying my jet powered by Java and I die from a GC pause

[spare quartz]

YOU AND GC PAUSES

im going to pause your life indefinitely

[lyric mesa]

i haven’t really touched kotlin

[timid quartz]

so then Kotlin scary :3

[spare quartz]

im going to kill you .

[lyric mesa]

okay dokay

[timid quartz]

I’m joking

I’m just trying to prod atp

[spare quartz]

go develop guardsman or something!!!

[timid quartz]

There’s a reason that microcontrollers don’t run Java

[spare quartz]

no

they do

[timid quartz]

nope

[spare quartz]

aera!!!

bep oductive!!

[timid quartz]

no!!!!!

[spare quartz]

why!!!!!!!!!

[lyric mesa]

bepis

[spare quartz]

getLogger.fine { "Found file for \"$storePath\" at \"${requestedPath.canonicalPath}\"" }
                val modifiedSince = request.headers["If-Modified-Since"]
                val headers = mapOf(
                    "Last-Modified" to DateTimeFormatter.RFC_1123_DATE_TIME.format(
                        ZonedDateTime.ofInstant(
                            Instant.ofEpochMilli(requestedPath.lastModified()),
                            ZoneOffset.UTC
                        )
                    )
                )
                var sent304 = false
                if (modifiedSince != null) {
                    val date = DateTimeFormatter.RFC_1123_DATE_TIME.parse(modifiedSince)
                    val mLong = (date.get(ChronoField.INSTANT_SECONDS) * 1000L) + date.get(ChronoField.MILLI_OF_SECOND)
                    if (mLong == requestedPath.lastModified()) {
                        HTTPResponse(
                            304, request.version, headers, requestedPath.length()
                        ).write(sock.outputStream)
                        sent304 = true
                    }
                }
                if (!sent304) {
                    HTTPResponse(
                        200, request.version,
                        headers, requestedPath.length()
                    ).write(sock.outputStream)
                    if (request.method == HTTPMethod.GET)
                        requestedPath.inputStream().transferTo(sock.outputStream)
                }
                true

file cache experiment

[timid quartz]

I don’t wanna…

[spare quartz]

do it

[timid quartz]

noooo

[timid quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1267583072728121384/1361464932771565750/NoruKMA.png?ex=67feda86&is=67fd8906&hm=e54902241e16694640cc1df9792d42b99bec4958707e2111a132d184eea0af63&

[spare quartz]

I Saw.

[spare quartz]

there

file caching

time to add TLS ALPN

[spare quartz]

uh

[spare quartz]

HTTP/2 looks a lot more different than what i was expecting

time to code in support for it

[timid quartz]

add quic next

[spare quartz]

i plan to

[timid quartz]

you should plan to drop kotlin and ada :3

I should plan to become a better person

[spare quartz]

not happening

[timid quartz]

Java has 9 MILLION classes and NONE OF THEM SOLVE REAL PROBLEMS

[spare quartz]

FINE: TLSv1.3 TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 "98.10.170.194:43980"
No peer authenticity

[spare quartz]

new records dropped

[timid quartz]

Now do it in Ada

[spare quartz]

do what in ada

[timid quartz]

DNS

[spare quartz]

i mean maybe but that'd also require making BSL in ada

and BSL is already moderately complex

ばっか

[timid quartz]

BSL?

[spare quartz]

you have the memory of a non ada user

[timid quartz]

I have fish memory yes this is known

[spare quartz]

known*

[timid quartz]

Shut

[spare quartz]

bread server library

its the thing that holds every protocol specifcation we code for

HTTP/DNS/SMTP/WebSocket/BEG_STDPROXY

also holds stream utilities

might deprecate certbot..

[timid quartz]

Sure if you can get a cert to become a CA

[spare quartz]

i mean like

analyse what it does and make our router automatically do that

becoming a CA would probably require tons of money of which we do not have

[timid quartz]

I don’t understand this

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

what would you be analyzing, what behavior would you make your router replicate, and how

[spare quartz]

ill answer your questions with a question

what does certbot do? what does certbot give you?

[timid quartz]

oh you’re saying deprecate automatic certificate acquiring and renewal

not deprecate the entirety of letsencrypt

[spare quartz]

and do it ourselves

fortunately i have found an rfc on which to start

UNfortunately i need to get myself used to how java manages certs

[timid quartz]

You and your silly rfcs

[spare quartz]

cause its a tiny bit of a mystery to me

time to watch the blacklist

[spare quartz]

ultimately, the goal is to deprecate the internet, and everything within.

and then we deprecate your computer, your lang, your compiler, and then you.

[timid quartz]

You’ll never deprecate rust

[spare quartz]

yes we will.

so many things

https://handshake.org/

[timid quartz]

Nuh uh

Not even Ada comes close to the glory

The magnificence

[spare quartz]

...of ばやちゃお！！！

[spare quartz]

bayachao art

<3333

[spare quartz]

acme time

HTTP Router Microserver <-> ACME Microserver <-> DNS Microserver

probably will do something in this type of setup

finally good server design

[proud creek]

Huh

[spare quartz]

915 MiB total system memory use!

previously the lowest was 960

sub 900 mib..

[pallid loom]

self realization

[spare quartz]

so efficient our memory use actually went down overnight

how is it continuing to drop

we're at 875 mib use

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz dang, kotlin can target jvm 8?

insane that it supports jvms that far back

[spare quartz]

javac and by proxy kotlincs compilers accomodate everything supported when they were made

[timid quartz]

although im trying to make ktor run and uh

logback is too recent

oh logback 1.3.0 works

@spare quartz instead of deprecating matrix you should deprecate irc or xmpp, matrix is a doomed protocol

[spare quartz]

what makes you say this now

魔魔魔

[timid quartz]

マジカル・アンド・ミラクル

この広い世界へ飛び出そ〜

[spare quartz]

but yes

[timid quartz]

well conduwuit which was like the only decent actively developed server is now abandonware

the maintainer quit within the last week

[spare quartz]

bad design

[timid quartz]

protocol itself isn't really that secure because it leaks metadata like a sieve

whole thing is basically centralized on matrix.org anyways

[timid quartz]

(there's a lot of metadata with each message and if any of it is encrypted at all it's a very very small portion)

[spare quartz]

i need to get started on this

[timid quartz]

I kinda want to try making an irc server

and UNFORTUNATELY I'm open to using Kotlin or Ada instead of just Rust

@spare quartz yeah here's what a matrix event looks like https://web.archive.org/web/20210131022939/https://snippets.serpentsec.1337.cx/matrix-metadata-leaks

you can see lots of it is unencrypted

[spare quartz]

could it protect me against inviting a journalist

[timid quartz]

uhh

{
  "type": "m.room.member",
  "sender": "@babba27:fantasycookie17.onederfultech.com",
  "content": {
    "membership": "join",
    "displayname": "DriftNotSkid",
    "avatar_url": "mxc://fantasycookie17.onederfultech.com/uLqqZhJdYHRNvNWWIFeJbDlP"
  },
  "state_key": "@babba27:fantasycookie17.onederfultech.com",
  "origin_server_ts": 1611901567921,
  "unsigned": {
    "replaces_state": "$xEr7yGLdOVOxF7NxEEFHK-ToDTDMAW2PqPqhwA6XqFg",
    "prev_content": {
      "avatar_url": "mxc://fantasycookie17.onederfultech.com/uLqqZhJdYHRNvNWWIFeJbDlP",
      "displayname": "DriftNotSkid",
      "is_direct": true,
      "membership": "invite"
    },
    "prev_sender": "@babba27:tchncs.de",
    "age": 724
  },
  "event_id": "$AsXIuazCSM7liww5v_ZUntbAFDx8kXDH0-11QaS3UGQ",
  "room_id": "!ADDxogcQLsbRpVWTLR:tchncs.de"
}

probably not

if the feds have a link to the journalist's matrix username then

[spare quartz]

the feds

me.. ? 🥺

[timid quartz]

lmao

[spare quartz]

the python dev to rust dev pipeline must be studied

[timid quartz]

lmao

[spare quartz]

stop saying lmao‼️

[timid quartz]

lmao

[spare quartz]

i just finished my food

now i gotta go fix a shader for a website

jvm could do that faster

[timid quartz]

Could Ada target a sunfire

Or would you have to write your own rts

[spare quartz]

wdym a sunfire

[timid quartz]

Like a Sun machine

[spare quartz]

probably

[timid quartz]

Running on SPARC

[spare quartz]

the primary reliance is on if GCC has support for it

[timid quartz]

Hmm

Idk lmao

Seems like it does

[spare quartz]

"blazingly fast"

[timid quartz]

Might be able to use SweetAda

Since it says it’s tested against SPARC

@spare quartz how would I go about trying to compile Ada for SPARC

[spare quartz]

get a GCC compiler for it

and set GPR to use it

and you're done

[timid quartz]

oh? really

I don’t need like

A special GNAT or anything?

[spare quartz]

GNAT is bundled into GCC so no

as long as the GNAT on that GCC is designed for the system it should work correctly

otherwise if you're say, building for just a CPU architecture, and not any system, you have to either use a special runtime of that GNAT (e.g. ZFP) or make your own RTS

[spare quartz]

bah this project makes me irrationally mad

it is this easy to make a port scanner

[timid quartz]

urgh I might have to build gcc myself to get SPARC support

[spare quartz]

oh yeah

i gotta add dns over tcp to our dns microserer

[spare quartz]

added dns

i mean

aeddded tcp to dns

https://youtu.be/CV4vY6tksUE?t=150

[timid quartz]

dns is udp!!!

who needs dns over https

[spare quartz]

?

you idiot dns over tcp

this is a part of the specification

[timid quartz]

which is a prerequirement for dns over http

[spare quartz]

no

you're a prerequisite for dns over http

[spare quartz]

let me watch my vlog of

[timid quartz]

http doesn't run over udp?

[spare quartz]

bayachao making the ghost sounds from mario 😭

[spare quartz]

http/3

[timid quartz]

ok buddy that's quic

[spare quartz]

DNS OVER BAYACHAO.

[spare quartz]

i cant get over this

😭

ARE ALL JAPANESE PEOPLE ON METH OR SOMETHING??

[spare quartz]

so true

RIGHT

ACME DEPRECATION

thankfully certbot is already gone

adding SSHFP

[spare quartz]

@timid quartz sooo

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions//cc751157(v=technet.10)?redirectedfrom=MSDN

apparently... there isn't actually any costs

we'd probably not be eligible cause we're not even a company yet but

bread CA...

new low for JVM

52 M

[timid quartz]

impossible

[timid quartz]

oh interesting

[spare quartz]

yeah we just have to get WebTrust or ETSI approval

(or government if we were making a government ca)

[timid quartz]

compiled lang like rust or ada would be lower

[spare quartz]

thats what a queer would say

[timid quartz]

it's the truth

[spare quartz]

its false

[timid quartz]

maybe ill make a dns server in rust or ada

and see how much less memory it uses

[spare quartz]

imagine it uses like 200 mb

waow 51 M

heres DNS stats rn

the lowest mem is static_server

[timid quartz]

is that btop

[spare quartz]

all servers have a maximum heap size of 250 MB

[spare quartz]

yes

[spare quartz]

ZGC is configured on each to remain under 100 MB

https://fixupx.com/i/status/1912037561729429809

stupid tech takes (@stupidtechtakes)

is she THE master hacker??

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[spare quartz]

playing around with RMI

[timid quartz]

What is RMI

well ig I could Google or ask chatgpt

[spare quartz]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_remote_method_invocation

[timid quartz]

Interesting

Java-native RPC

How secure is it?

[spare quartz]

depends on what protocol you use for it

[timid quartz]

Oh so you could do it over HTTPS?

[spare quartz]

https://stackoverflow.com/a/26823477

[timid quartz]

Interesting

gRPC tho ❤️

[spare quartz]

my instrumentation RMI server should be running now

just gotta write a client for it

very cool

[timid quartz]

What will you use it for?

[spare quartz]

instrumentation and updating primarily

[timid quartz]

Human Instrumentality Project!!

[spare quartz]

question mark

[spare quartz]

also also ACME

[timid quartz]

Evangelion

[spare quartz]

just realized i wont need UDP since RMI effectively already creates a command structure

RMI lookup (ACME) -> request through function
RMI lookup (DNS) -> request store path
write stores
<do acme stuff>
delete stores
return certificate through ACME RMI function

[timid quartz]

rust does have some instrumentation capabilities (via crates of course)

namely like

logging

[spare quartz]

logging and instrumentation are two separate things

but i expect you to have both

in the JVM instrumentation is mainly done using "beans" which are just little tidbits of data about an operation in the jvm

[timid quartz]

beans

[spare quartz]

yup

MXBeans

[timid quartz]

With Rust you’d probably have to manually implement this all

What could make it easier is a proc macro that you decorate a function with to add in stuff

[spare quartz]

in ada most instrumentation is done with GNAT stuff

[timid quartz]

So like #[crate::instrument]

[spare quartz]

like the custom allocator that tracks leaks and stuff

[timid quartz]

ah ic ic

[spare quartz]

so much

its also possible to view MXBeans remotely

theres a tool like this in nearly every JDK distribution called jconsole

funnily enough this lets jconsole instrrument itself

[timid quartz]

Zig has a thing like this as well

The Zig standard library also has a general-purpose allocator. This is a safe allocator that can prevent double-free, use-after-free and can detect leaks. Safety checks and thread safety can be turned off via its configuration struct (left empty below). Zig's GPA is designed for safety over performance, but may still be many times faster than page_allocator.

[spare quartz]

__gnat_malloc copycat

[timid quartz]

I’m guessing Ada doesnt have as much instrumentation as Java though

[spare quartz]

somewhat

instrumentation in compiled languages is a little harder since

it's not like it's running in a VM like the jvm

but ada has certain attributes that let you view what compiler version was used for something

as well as whatever GNAT gives you and System

[timid quartz]

hm ic

makes sense

[spare quartz]

intellij has so many threads

i wish you could discern from virtual and physical threads

[spare quartz]

oh cool

this can do sampling

[timid quartz]

Typical Java app tbh

[spare quartz]

i wish it were possible to reduce them

[spare quartz]

biased

[timid quartz]

not biased

[spare quartz]

biased

[timid quartz]

not biased

[spare quartz]

doesn't show numbers

biased

[timid quartz]

based indeed

[spare quartz]

its so easy

[timid quartz]

lol what

[spare quartz]

the data dont lie

[timid quartz]

The data do lie

How is REST not simple lol

[spare quartz]

because its dumb

[timid quartz]

Nuh uh

if it’s dumb then how come every website uses it for api calls and stuff

[spare quartz]

if js is dumb how come 9 quintillion developers use it for their servers

[timid quartz]

Mmmm get this guy a

[spare quartz]

shut up nerd and buy me bayachao merch

okay nvm

she has brain worms

https://youtu.be/2ejRjLbG7A0?t=48

[pallid loom]

kill me

and it's not even package.json or anything

pure code

I really don't know why in the everliving fuck I've decided to seperate backend and frontend

would've been so much simpler if I did it all in next.js

[timid quartz]

Did you see the Next.js vuln

BRO KEYBOARD

ok

[pallid loom]

Yeah

Doesn't affect me

Nor will it affect any competent developer

[wheat zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1263655251521568840/1355059451807137812/NT_WEB.GIF

[timid quartz]

Mm idk about that

It was built into next and couldn’t be controlled

Next did it automatically

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz The JVM was good for its time but its time has passed

[timid quartz]

man this cross compiling stuff is annoying

need a damn sysroot for solaris

[spare quartz]

jansoekioejfcooske

[timid quartz]

it's quite annoying

wait doxxing

oops

sorry also ghostping

[spare quartz]

again every message here is equal to a ping for me

don’t apologize

[timid quartz]

ok no more doxxing this time

[spare quartz]

unfortunate you have to build GCC like that

[timid quartz]

I have no clue if this works or not because I gotta wait on terry for the damn sysroot

[spare quartz]

for me it almost never works

currently burning in my own acid rn brb

[timid quartz]

I hope I don't have to do --disable-libada

it depends if the rts for sparc-sun-solaris2.10 is distributed with gcc

I wonder where I could find that

ah, gcc/ada/libgnat/ has system-solaris-sparc.ads so I'm assuming there's a RTS for it

[spare quartz]

may or may not be full

solaris is a quite mature os though so

i expect it to be

[timid quartz]

https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/ada/libgnat/system-solaris-sparc.ads

well

that's the file

[spare quartz]

looks standard

this type of system file is required for every RTS

baremetal or not

[timid quartz]

ok so

likely no work needed on that front

phew

[spare quartz]

in the future if you need your own RTS it's not super hard to make one yourself, as lot of the code is just copyable from any other RTS

[timid quartz]

just gotta wait on egg boy to send me his /usr and /lib folders from his sun workstation

[spare quartz]

but it can be a bit strange in some places where you gotta actually make your own impls (like the AFCB)

[timid quartz]

Air Force Code Base???

[spare quartz]

ada filesystem control block

[timid quartz]

air force command base

[spare quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/565173112702763028/1187543960638455848/caption.gif?ex=6597457f&is=6584d07f&hm=1a10b99a9a40910203a9902711bf2c8112058e2e1c5290355dcec9d0ec28087f&

[timid quartz]

ig I COULD get a solaris 10 iso from oracle

buuut idk

[spare quartz]

oh yeah i forgot you also have to make your own delay impl if you make an RTS

(hopefully your system has a clock or they just immediately return)

[timid quartz]

I would imagine a system with no clock is rare

even the embedded systems I've worked with have a clock

[spare quartz]

with more modern computers it's just "harder" to get to a clock

cause back then you could just use CPU I/O to dial the RTC but now it's uncertain if you really have one

so now you have to go thru PIC (antiquated), or APIC (hard)

unless you run on an os where you can just link to a native function

it's not strictly required you use a clock for delay though

as long as you know you can stall the processor in some way it'll work

[timid quartz]

busy loop :3

[spare quartz]

i use a loop of billions for early setup

[timid quartz]

GCOBOL
The COBOL compiler, gcobol, first appeared in GCC 15. To build the COBOL parser, you need GNU Bison 3.5.1 or later (but not 3.8.0). To build the lexer requires GNU Flex 2.6.4, the current version as of this writing, released on 2017-05-06.

The gcobol documentation is maintained as manpages using troff mdoc. GNU groff is required to convert them to PDF format. Conversion to HTML is done with mandoc, available at http://mdocml.bsd.lv/.

Because ISO COBOL defines strict requirements for numerical precision, gcobol requires hardware with 128-bit computation instructions. This requirement applies to both host and target. For integer and fixed-point computation, gcobol uses

Data type: __int128
meaning 16 == sizeof(long long int). For floating point, gcobol uses

Data type: _Float128
(On some architectures, GCC supports 128-bit floating point in software.)

gcobol has so far been tested on two architectures only: x86_64 and aarch64 with little-endian encoding.

gross

[spare quartz]

should note the other keywords in ada are uh

much, MUCH harder to make in your own RTS without a complex understanding of them though

(for example, OOP keywords like tagged)

[timid quartz]

oop 👎

[spare quartz]

even mathematical operations (div/mul/mod) have to be added by a custom RTS

so you get to deal with assembly

[timid quartz]

it would be neat to get ada running on the sparc station

but also...it would be so apt to have kotlin (a jvm language) running on it

[spare quartz]

depends

do you want a modern JVM or any JVM

if you want a modern JVM on a SPARC it'd require a lot of work, but if you don't care about that, old JVMs are available

[timid quartz]

yeah terry said like

jvm 8 💀

which was why I was like "oh wow kotlin can target jvm 8" earlier today

[spare quartz]

id be more surprised if it supported java 6

but thats long dead now

[timid quartz]

yea lo

[spare quartz]

and java 1.0.4 - 1.5 practically dont exist

except for me of course

[timid quartz]

anyways eep

hopefully egg boy can get me the folders off of his sparc station

[spare quartz]

bring me bayachao art

[spare quartz]

6 errors reported by DNS overnight

resource use sustained

of course its the router maxing out memory use

but everything else is under 70 MB

[spare quartz]

that should fix -1 and len < 0 errors..

NOT extended labels though

at least the TCP portion of DNS should no longer crash as a result of socket failure though

router screen got corrupted again somehow

the pace of development of these servers is incredibly quick

it isn't uncommon for maven/static to be running on BSL 1.16.2 while the latest is 1.20

thankfully the majority of BSL updates are protocol or stability specific, so it doesn't incur many errors

2.8

[spare quartz]

@timid quartz @pallid loom @rustic vine ... and to anyone else interested ...
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/mitre-warns-that-funding-for-critical-cve-program-expires-today/

pretty bad news

[pallid loom]

So it's real

[spare quartz]

yeah

[pallid loom]

Love the us of a

[spare quartz]

hopefully this isn't sustained cause.. i think we all know how bad it can be

[pallid loom]

Worlds first third world country

[spare quartz]

fourth world country

[spare quartz]

working on http2

[spare quartz]

neat

[spare quartz]

AUGH THERES COMPRESSION IN HTTP/2

https://tenor.com/view/blood-gif-20829713

[timid quartz]

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6120

damn

xmpp core rfc is yuge

and there's 5 "basic" rfcs

[spare quartz]

https://fixupx.com/girokerofan/status/1912541300580343901/photo/1

pon (@girokerofan)

#まけもあーと ah ??!!

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FixupX · Apr 16, 2025, 4:19 PM

added DNS UDP truncation

dns cache time

[timid quartz]

truncation

why truncate

[spare quartz]

dns specification

unless overridden by EDNS(0) dns responses must be 512 bytes or less over UDP (excluding IP/UDP headers)

[spare quartz]

there is chaos on every screen

[timid quartz]

@terry:terryiscool160.xyz

matrix

subpar proto

[spare quartz]

you

[timid quartz]

no u

still waiting on solaris sysroot...

[spare quartz]

bayacghao

[timid quartz]

I wanna cross compile ada NOWWW

[spare quartz]

cross compile deez nuts

[timid quartz]

nah

[spare quartz]

i cant believe people actually use spotify..

[timid quartz]

lmao

what do you use

youtube?

[spare quartz]

yes/

[timid quartz]

lllame

apple music ❤️

[spare quartz]

no

i just use regular youtube videos as music

so good

BACK TO HTTP/2 DEV

unfortunately debugging whats wrong with my http/2 is magnitudes harder

[timid quartz]

how so

[spare quartz]

encryption

[timid quartz]

oh gg

just uh

self-signed cert and wireshark

equivalently, mitmproxy

[spare quartz]

not feasible

not feasible

[timid quartz]

y not

[spare quartz]

self-signed cert requires a lot of work and makes me have to redo our JKS

mitmproxy means i have to scp essentially 4 times per connection test

since termshark doesnt support ssl master keys

[timid quartz]

rip

well

gl debugging!

[spare quartz]

alternatively i could just log every byte read

but thats painful to read

[timid quartz]

what is even going wrong

[spare quartz]

something with the SETTINGS header

its length is incorrect

[timid quartz]

mm

[spare quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/945395000219406416/1312195484533915678/togif.gif

https://fixupx.com/kiro247/status/1912484679456026854

こぎのきゐ (@kiro247)

太陽ポカポカで草☀️

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FixupX · Apr 16, 2025, 12:34 PM

[timid quartz]

are you omitting trailing = in the header value

[spare quartz]

the what

[timid quartz]

The content of the HTTP2-Settings header field is the payload of a SETTINGS frame (Section 6.5), encoded as a base64url string (that is, the URL- and filename-safe Base64 encoding described in Section 5 of [RFC4648], with any trailing '=' characters omitted). The ABNF [RFC5234] production for token68 is defined in Section 2.1 of [RFC7235].

[spare quartz]

not header

i mean frame

[timid quartz]

oh

gg

says multiple of 6 octets

so multiple of 48

[spare quartz]

no multiple of 6

[timid quartz]

A SETTINGS frame with a length other than a multiple of 6 octets MUST be treated as a connection error (Section 5.4.1) of type FRAME_SIZE_ERROR.

[spare quartz]

yes i already do that

[timid quartz]

oh wait

octet means 8 bits not bytes

dies

[spare quartz]

a byte is an octet in modern computers

[timid quartz]

yes die

[spare quartz]

stupid rust

[timid quartz]

not a rust problem

[spare quartz]

yeah it is

everything is

[timid quartz]

die

you're a jvm and ada problem

[spare quartz]

let me draw my furry art,

[timid quartz]

no go back to debugging http/2

[spare quartz]

no

i feel bad

[timid quartz]

ig just

make sure that you're sending groups of (16+32) bytes

[spare quartz]

im not sending anything yet thats the thing

just reading rn

HOW to draw... Thigh Highs

[timid quartz]

and...you're erroring on read?

[spare quartz]

yes due to misalignment

[timid quartz]

just dont get misaligned

[spare quartz]

die

prob balty an issue rthere

[timid quartz]

use IntelliJ's wonderful debugger to help you

[spare quartz]

again not usable

[timid quartz]

bro h o w your code that is erroring literally must read the decrypted value

[spare quartz]

MISALIGNMENT

!!

[timid quartz]

yes so USE

the DEBUGGER

[timid quartz]

to OBSERVE

[spare quartz]

I CANT USE AD EBUGGER

[timid quartz]

WHY

[spare quartz]

IDIOT

[timid quartz]

it's MISALIGNED

[spare quartz]

BECAUSE ITS ON A REMOTE SERVER

!!!

[timid quartz]

the remote server is sending u correct data

[spare quartz]

omg

[timid quartz]

(unless you also wrote the server)

[spare quartz]

NO

THE ROUTER IS WORKING ON A REMOTE SERVER

the requests come from MY comptuer

[timid quartz]

so

you have a computer

that is sending requests

and you have a router that is reading them

and erroring

[spare quartz]

yes

[timid quartz]

ok so take the router

host it locally

debug

[spare quartz]

no

cant

well i can

but

im lazy

[timid quartz]

ok

take the code on your computer

[spare quartz]

(id need to make a JKS and host another server so the router has backing)

[timid quartz]

debug it and watch it prepare the data to send

[spare quartz]

no

too much work

[timid quartz]

and you call me lazy

[spare quartz]

lazy

https://techdif.straw.page/

probably youor wbeite..

[timid quartz]

nah my website would never have such terrible design

[spare quartz]

yeah cause it already is terrible..

[timid quartz]

like first point

my website would be viewable on any browser

[spare quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/whirow-nvm-ur-content-sucks-arcade-assassin-funny-meme-gif-1223989353800674009

ですですですですですですですですですですですです

[spare quartz]

(HTTP/2, Frame) SETTINGS, 0x00000000 [], SETTINGS #: [3]
(HTTP/2, Setting) SETTINGS_MAX_CONCURRENT_STREAMS [100]
(HTTP/2, Setting) SETTINGS_INITIAL_WINDOW_SIZE [65536]
(HTTP/2, Setting) SETTINGS_ENABLE_PUSH [false]
0x00, 0x00, 0x12
0x04
0x00
0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00
0x00, 0x03 | 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x64
0x00, 0x04 | 0x00, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00
0x00, 0x02 | 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00

(HTTP/2, Frame) WINDOW_UPDATE, 0x00000000 [1048510465]
0x00, 0x00, 0x04
0x08
0x00
0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00
0x3E, 0x7F, 0x00, 0x01

[snow oak]

first time using java, kinda nervous

[spare quartz]

time to add Range support

[timid quartz]

mm @spare quartz I might not be able to add runtime support

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

idk I keep banging my head into the wall with "Configuration sparcv9-sun-solaris2.0 not supported"

[spare quartz]

your gnat/gcc probably doesnt have a runtime for it

you may need to make your own

[timid quartz]

no it does

it definitely does

[spare quartz]

source ?

[timid quartz]

idk maybe not

ughhhh idk

this feels impossible

[spare quartz]

what is

[timid quartz]

compiling this damn thing

to make ada run on a sparc

@spare quartz if you have any ada resources it'd be great if you could ask

[spare quartz]

i can help you im just a little preoccupied

[timid quartz]

oh?

[spare quartz]

do you have a cross compiler from your architecture to SPARC

[timid quartz]

what do you know about this I'm curious

[timid quartz]

uh no

that's what im trying to build

I have the sources for gcc-12.3.0 and binutils-2.38

the binutils built fine

but gcc refuses

[spare quartz]

yes GCC is uniquely horrible to build, i can't actually help much there (i thought you already had a compiler ready)

[timid quartz]

bruhhhhhhh

idk where I could even ask someone for help regarding this

[spare quartz]

i would suggest https://wiki.osdev.org/GNAT_Cross-Compiler, but

last i tried it it didn't work

and the article is extremely antiquated

https://gcc.gnu.org/install/configure.html

so many thigns..

they should've just made a compiler in kotlin

no clue if this'll work

[timid quartz]

this builds it without runtime

ig I could try removing the flag that does it but

[spare quartz]

im not exactly certain how runtime builds work if im being honest

i suppose it depends on your GCC source...

[timid quartz]

this is a massive pain

cross compilers are great if they're provided OR if they're for systems that arent like decades dead

[spare quartz]

stop talking

or else you'll make me want to make compilers

[timid quartz]

ls

augh

[spare quartz]

this'll probably break

[timid quartz]

sob

why doesnt this work

theres gotta be like a mailing list or a forum I can post on

[spare quartz]

uguyggyuh

im probabluy gonna die of exsanguination whilwe proigmming

https://javart.zip/fish.webm

https://javart.zip/joe.mp4

no success..

https://javart.zip/meow.mp4

[timid quartz]

im crashing out

I followed the steps on the osdev wiki thing

STILL "not supported"

[spare quartz]

told you they were antiquated

the stuff on there is like

from 2012 unironically

im not sure on wjhat to do next though

[timid quartz]

I give up on trying to make Ada run on SPARC

[spare quartz]

would you like a consolation prize

[timid quartz]

no

[spare quartz]

pleaseee

[timid quartz]

the only realistic thing now is....getting onto the sparc directly and probably having to build gcc with ada support with the toolchain that's already there

[spare quartz]

do you think you're working too hard for a project that you probably won't use

BAYACHAO

PSD

FILES

AQUUUUIIIIRIRRREEDDDD

[timid quartz]

Yes but like

[spare quartz]

hold on bayachao lore just dropped and this is crazy. but continhue

[timid quartz]

Your thing is making a server for every possible server under the sun

My thing is getting things to run in unorthodox manners

[spare quartz]

multiple use of "server," clarify

did you mean protocol for second use of server

[spare quartz]

but that's going to drive you mad and you know it..

[timid quartz]

Ok well more generally your thing is protocols

[timid quartz]

IT ALRWADY IS

[spare quartz]

SEE

[timid quartz]

eg rust on teensy 4.1 no std, ada on SPARC

[spare quartz]

holy crap tehre is so much yap on bayachaos blog

its all understandable though

[timid quartz]

I just wonder where I could ask questions about compiling gcc

[spare quartz]

the gcc mailing list?

[timid quartz]

urghhhh boomers

[timid quartz]

and I doubt anyone would respond

[spare quartz]

he says, trying to CC ada

yeah okay.

[timid quartz]

“ew some kid is asking how to do X, I remember the answer to this on a thread from 25 years ago, if this kid can’t find it then he shouldn’t be compiling my gcc”

[spare quartz]

okay well i imagine they're not like stack-overflow user petty

the guy who emailed me back about a GCC bug report seemed nice

[timid quartz]

hmmmm maybe I’ll try then

[spare quartz]

part of me really wants to write a compiler for sparc now, but

im unfortunately not dumb enough to know what that entails

[timid quartz]

first: custom mail server to receive mailing list replies? :3

[spare quartz]

with your 9 quintillion crates thats easy

[timid quartz]

and send mail*

die

[spare quartz]

hey

im not wrong

[timid quartz]

Yknow I was gonna say “who said I was doing it in rust” but then you reminded me you have one in Ada and Kotlin so I gotta complete the trifecta

[spare quartz]

i think i found out where japanese people get mega freaky

DO NOT DISTRIBUTE THE FOLLOWING TEXT FILE

[timid quartz]

hold on

mobile

will be desktop in

[spare quartz]

im actually gonna go lay down soon

but ... hopefully ONE day ill be able to understand that text file withuot needing a translator (probably not)

[timid quartz]

with rust’s superior development speed, by the time you wake up, I’ll have made SMTP 2

[spare quartz]

i make servers in single days

you're gonna have to be a little better than that .

[timid quartz]

cause you do literally nothing else

include go outside

[spare quartz]

OK WELL

i dont need outside

programming <3

[timid quartz]

I took my OS final today so

I’m free

Idk if I should prioritize base proto and then starttls or try to get starttls working first

[spare quartz]

base protocol

starttls is basically just