💽Programming Chat v2

[pastel tinsel]

yes

[spare quartz]

👁️.

[pastel tinsel]

port is 25 right

[spare quartz]

yeah hold on

let me just clear the maiilboxes

just had the most successful test ever

@pastel tinsel ready

yes 25

[pastel tinsel]

225?

[spare quartz]

fixed

[pastel tinsel]

no clue if it is working lmao

[pastel tinsel]

gonna take it as no

[spare quartz]

your cient uscks...

demoted to relay..

[pastel tinsel]

esxplode

I don't know if it is going through because of the filter thingy

[spare quartz]

filter?

[pastel tinsel]

port

this

[spare quartz]

oh

right.

[pastel tinsel]

idk if that is a router issue

or

pc

because rn I am doing this on windows

[full berry]

ok bacjk

do you need me to run it 4 times atp

or nah

[pastel tinsel]

oh wait idea

[spare quartz]

you can if you want, the test succeeded

[full berry]

it is hanging.

[spare quartz]

i dont see any output

[pastel tinsel]

yeah becase we are hanging

[spare quartz]

well

your isps are bad

or something

[pastel tinsel]

dude

im running this on oracle

lmfao

they give you free rain

[full berry]

@spare quartz WHAT IS THE PORT.

caps

bruh

[spare quartz]

25.......

[full berry]

pretty please

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz is your TLS port 573?

[full berry]

set it to 4whatever

[spare quartz]

25, submissions is on 573

but you dont have a client, so dont use 573

[full berry]

atp can you change it to anything but 25 i

its refusing the connection

[timid quartz]

I have a program that acts like a client

[spare quartz]

local client

[spare quartz]

03259236843549035i09435043

[timid quartz]

fineee

[full berry]

what is the new port.

[spare quartz]

width by height, is it okay if i use the 40000s series port

so astro doesnt die

im gonna switch to 43674 now

there

[full berry]

HEHEHEHAW

[spare quartz]

@full berry REady .

[full berry]

there

i have transmitted a VERY important message

[spare quartz]

to who?

[full berry]

you

oh

[spare quartz]

yes but

mailbox

[full berry]

test

[pastel tinsel]

do I have to setup postfix

[spare quartz]

im deleting this

[proud creek]

WHAT

[full berry]

NOOO

TZ

[pastel tinsel]

kill this man

[spare quartz]

ccc c cccode yy yyour o

[proud creek]

what ru guys doinggg

[full berry]

your mom

[proud creek]

nuh

[full berry]

TELNETING!!!!

[spare quartz]

spamming my testbed server

[pastel tinsel]

dude

no

[spare quartz]

and fixing astros internet

[full berry]

SHUR UP

[spare quartz]

because his ethernet is made out of like

pillow fiber

[full berry]

IDK WHY THEYRE BLOCKING PORT 25

its made out of ranch

[pastel tinsel]

[proud creek]

no way its that one notation for math

[full berry]

OKOK ill stop

[pastel tinsel]

oh

I fixed it

yay

@spare quartz :3

[spare quartz]

"bleh.com"

[proud creek]

bleh dot com

[spare quartz]

which one do you guys think i am

[proud creek]

drone/uav

[spare quartz]

YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME

i asked someone in dm the same question and they said the same thing

[proud creek]

LOL

[pastel tinsel]

oh

now it is going through on my main

huh

[full berry]

@spare quartz check

(test)

[pastel tinsel]

I wonder if Ican multi thread this

[spare quartz]

oh jesus

(not you astro)

[spare quartz]

server rn has 25 threads

[full berry]

oo la la

[spare quartz]

i can up it to 2000 if you get silly

[pastel tinsel]

wtf

[full berry]

WHY IS IT ALL HORRIBLE SONGS

[spare quartz]

🤨

[proud creek]

are these individual emails

[spare quartz]

yes

[proud creek]

LOL

[full berry]

That's it??

[full berry]

i sent it by telnet not a custom program

[proud creek]

oh god

[full berry]

OMG WAIT

WHILE TRUE DO WHEN SENDING EMAILS

HOLDON

[proud creek]

ok how do i send an email

hm

[spare quartz]

oh my god the infection keeps spreading

is this how gmail was founded

[full berry]

@spare quartz are you ready.

[spare quartz]

yes

[pastel tinsel]

already tested

it stalls

lmao

[full berry]

wait

wrong message hold on

[spare quartz]

theres only one thread in use at the moment

[spare quartz]

also what was the output

[full berry]

@spare quartz do you by chance have any new files

[full berry]

ok one is the old ranch thing

im trying something new wait

[spare quartz]

what are you doing

[full berry]

literally the same thing as before

wym

[spare quartz]

you've made 4 exceptions

[full berry]

LO

[spare quartz]

each 4 kill the connection so a thread frees itself

its not a bug on my end

[full berry]

it might or might not be because i

wrapped everything in a while true

[spare quartz]

elaborate

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz did you just get a new connection

[spare quartz]

someone does not know how to handle their sockets

[spare quartz]

latest:

[timid quartz]

huh

hm

[spare quartz]

it just killed itself

[timid quartz]

yeah I just closed it

it hung on my end

[full berry]

bro i connected and my discord crashed

[spare quartz]

are you sure you're connecting to it correctly

[timid quartz]

yeah pretty sure

[full berry]

um

[spare quartz]

show your code

[full berry]

ignore that i have this nwo

[spare quartz]

intentional

[full berry]

what

[spare quartz]

you sent a MAIL FROM without completing your last MAIL FROM

[pastel tinsel]

oh god

I got it working atp

[full berry]

can you clear it

[timid quartz]

oml

atp I keep forgetting \r\n lol

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

[full berry]

oh yeah what is \r

\n is like newline

[spare quartz]

i just restarted the server to patch up a bug in BDAT (command none of you are using)

[pastel tinsel]

IT CLOSED

[pastel tinsel]

womp

[timid quartz]

\r is carriage return

so think about a typewriter

you have the thing going across right

the carriage return resets that

[full berry]

oh

[timid quartz]

and the newline makes it create a new line

[full berry]

makes sense makes sense

@spare quartz REMOVE my letter

[spare quartz]

are you the connection that aimlessly just resets itself

[timid quartz]

no that's me

trying to negotiate TLS

[full berry]

negotiate?

[spare quartz]

are you sending STARTTLS

[full berry]

💀

[timid quartz]

yes

[spare quartz]

good

[timid quartz]

I am

I forgot the \r\n at first

now it upgrades and i need to see where I've forgotten \r\n\

[spare quartz]

?

[full berry]

its giving me the letter present thing

[spare quartz]

not my problem

thats an issue with your commands

[full berry]

BOY

yeah i kinda fucked up i cant really

fix it

[spare quartz]

EHLO <name>
STARTTLS
EHLO <name>

make sure you reinitiate the conversation after

[timid quartz]

oh you have to HELO first?

[full berry]

i have a question

[spare quartz]

STARTTLS resets the connection state

[timid quartz]

make your server enforce that because I sent STARTTLS first and it took it just fine

[full berry]

why we are playing with 50 year old tech 😭

[spare quartz]

yeah i deferred that to after fixes

[proud creek]

how do i connect

[spare quartz]

telnet javart.zip 25

[proud creek]

ok 25

[spare quartz]

actually this is modern

[full berry]

the telnet part isnt

[spare quartz]

well most people here arent using telnet

oh? i think threads got a little dirty

lemme restart the server to see why

probably global state thing

[proud creek]

😠

[timid quartz]

bruh

[proud creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1105948808388550749/1282809431595159603/c-1.gif

[spare quartz]

@timid quartz i think your constant STARTTLS created a bunch of trash tls connections that flooded the tasking group

oh well new bug to fix

[timid quartz]

LOL probably

don't forget to deinit

Me otw to flood your server with a bunch of half-open TLS connections

[spare quartz]

there

should be safe to use now

[spare quartz]

you can try again

[proud creek]

grr

[spare quartz]

yeah

looks like it should work now

oneee more sanity check

[timid quartz]

augh

[spare quartz]

i need to protect starttls!!

[timid quartz]

No u don’t

Let me trash your server with 50 half-open TLS connections

[spare quartz]

nono behind EHLO

[timid quartz]

My client just uses HELO

[proud creek]

this is so mean

[timid quartz]

lol

[proud creek]

maybe its my problem

[spare quartz]

the server is off cause im writing code nerd

[spare quartz]

that too

[timid quartz]

I didn’t bother writing a thing to parse the list of responses from a EHLO

[proud creek]

bruh smh smh

[timid quartz]

Oh so you’re gonna force EHLO too huh

[spare quartz]

no

specification says servers must still support HELO

just dont depend on it

[timid quartz]

:3

I will continue to use HELO because I cba to deal with EHLO rn

I have COMBINATORICS to study

[spare quartz]

idk what that is.....

[timid quartz]

It’s a lot of counting stuff

So eg

[full berry]

isnt cs

a lot of math

and a bit of tech

[timid quartz]

If I draw and quarter you, how many ways can I arrange your body parts such that no two limbs of the same type are adjacent

[full berry]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

no seriously i had a stroke reading that what

[timid quartz]

I guess while your server is down I’ll code in EHLO support

[spare quartz]

ready

[spare quartz]

EW

SSL

[full berry]

SHUR UP

[spare quartz]

sslv3 is unsafe

use tls immediately

[timid quartz]

it's not ready smh

[spare quartz]

it is ready

[timid quartz]

unless you changed ports

[spare quartz]

i set it to 25-

uggghh

[timid quartz]

NO

[spare quartz]

lemme get the ol

[timid quartz]

leave it

as

25

I will change my code

[spare quartz]

asstrrrroooo

[timid quartz]

it's fine

[full berry]

WHAT

haha you said ass

[spare quartz]

do you want the old port or is ti okay to 25...............

[full berry]

you can switch to 25

im switching back to windows

the last 2 days ive been working on this crap and i have

so many things to work on

like its not even funny

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz done

[spare quartz]

whatd you do

[timid quartz]

check your mailbox

[timid quartz]

meower

[full berry]

you?

[timid quartz]

no I'm telling atp which box to check

[full berry]

oh

[timid quartz]

yep there it is

[spare quartz]

can you send one more email

[timid quartz]

now I should add in client input

yeah ok I'll run it again

[spare quartz]

RCPT TO:[email protected]

[proud creek]

meow

[spare quartz]

i need to see if the file renamer works completely

[timid quartz]

check

[spare quartz]

nono

[timid quartz]

ooh

ok

[spare quartz]

it should move the file out of the way

[pastel tinsel]

wait

what

[timid quartz]

done @spare quartz

[spare quartz]

yup

perfect thanks

[timid quartz]

INVALID?

huh

[spare quartz]

look at the top here

[timid quartz]

oh

interesting ok

[spare quartz]

thats a file, so we renamed it to __INVALID__ to make it a valid mailbox

[timid quartz]

ic ic

[spare quartz]

don't run it in System32 obviously though

TODO one day

• make this run without a gui
• put this on a real server

[pastel tinsel]

invalid lol

I keep getting

https://cdn.bigbenster702.com/u/FQzSbiB.png

bleh

it worked for a bit

@spare quartz you still working on it?

[spare quartz]

no

[pastel tinsel]

is it open?

[spare quartz]

yes

[pastel tinsel]

huh...

[spare quartz]

im gonna "shut it down" soon after this to add mandatory TLS

[pastel tinsel]

the socket just keeps

closing on me

[spare quartz]

code

[proud creek]

i shrimply cant connect

might be skill issue

[pastel tinsel]

did it explode

atp

[spare quartz]

no

im spamming it in telnet rn and it works fine

[pastel tinsel]

is the port still open

[spare quartz]

yes

wait

what port are you using

[pastel tinsel]

43674

[spare quartz]

use 25

[pastel tinsel]

when I use 25 it stalls

[spare quartz]

use it

25 is the port

[pastel tinsel]

what about

43674

[spare quartz]

its 25

also TODO, in the future, make this support null mailtos

[pastel tinsel]

https://cdn.bigbenster702.com/u/QyGIZ1c.png

[spare quartz]

whats the address begin with

[pastel tinsel]

107

I didn't know if it was mine or yours

lol

[spare quartz]

dont hide it

thats mine

[pastel tinsel]

alr

[spare quartz]

theres a problem with your side then

[pastel tinsel]

I wonder if I can just

[spare quartz]

43... was a workaround for isp blocks

[pastel tinsel]

wait I wonder if I can just

[spare quartz]

tcpspammer has to be my favorite tool

[pastel tinsel]

why not use port 587

[spare quartz]

let me switch to that

there

its on 587 now

[proud creek]

j

[spare quartz]

oops

forgot to port forward

there

[pastel tinsel]

oh yeah now it is working

lmfao

[spare quartz]

trash heap

[proud creek]

LOL

now my shit works

[pastel tinsel]

see atp

lmfao

[spare quartz]

hey

not my fault your isps are just lame

[proud creek]

ok lets see how to d othis

[proud creek]

you need to support everyone smh smh

[spare quartz]

i already blocked poor people 🔥🗣️

[proud creek]

smhhhhhh

[spare quartz]

you probably spelled it wrong

[pastel tinsel]

lmao

[proud creek]

die

[spare quartz]

ez dub

[pastel tinsel]

no yeah

mine are going through

[spare quartz]

Subject: youir cars extended warranty

idfk fjksdjaflksjdfkl meowm oemow meowm emow mewo moew meow

[proud creek]

i sent somethin!!

yipee

[spare quartz]

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: jct5ve
Message-ID: [email protected]
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:38:26 +0000
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

c0nsqo

what even is the text

[proud creek]

lmao what

[spare quartz]

ALSO

mrrow

[pastel tinsel]

huh

I thought it would

wha

OH

[spare quartz]

BRO

blocking your ip rn

[proud creek]

LOL

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

I SAID GG 5 TIMES

[spare quartz]

i set the port back to 25

because other mail servers wont forward to 587

[pastel tinsel]

just forward out that port

back to 25

[full berry]

forward deez

[proud creek]

ok but 25 dont work!!

[full berry]

then all of our isps are ass

[spare quartz]

become a mail server and MAYBE ill listen to you 3

[pastel tinsel]

yours is worse

[spare quartz]

WHO IS STILL TRYING 587

👿

alright gui time

[pastel tinsel]

atp just

[spare quartz]

?

[pastel tinsel]

https://cdn.bigbenster702.com/u/7QYtwsy.png

[spare quartz]

no

[pastel tinsel]

wdym no

[spare quartz]

thats against specification

[pastel tinsel]

?>?>?

[spare quartz]

587 is not 25

[pastel tinsel]

???

ononon

so port 587 is out

but then internal gets pushed to 25

[spare quartz]

ben i dont think you understand

587 is not allowed to be used like 25

[pastel tinsel]

it isn't

[spare quartz]

its in the specifcation

[pastel tinsel]

then just use some random other port

that forwards to 25

[spare quartz]

👿

THERE

[proud creek]

who cares about the spec

[spare quartz]

@pastel tinsel i forwarded 43674 to 25

👿👿👿👿👿

[proud creek]

what the flip

[spare quartz]

if you spam me again i will block your ip though

[pastel tinsel]

I am testing somnething

OH MY GOD

IT WORKS

(that took too long to do)

(christ)

I multi threaded it

because it has to async

or it explodes

[spare quartz]

your threading is messy

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

[spare quartz]

okay NOW im gonna block your ip

[pastel tinsel]

I SET IT TO 100 😭

[proud creek]

LOL

[pastel tinsel]

GO MY THREADS

ATTACK

https://cdn.bigbenster702.com/u/ESNUv0H.png

[spare quartz]

not letting you do THAT again

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

go look at your mail :3

[spare quartz]

what mail

[pastel tinsel]

what

the inbox

whatver

[timid quartz]

lol

[spare quartz]

🤨

[pastel tinsel]

dude what

did you clear it

huh..

[spare quartz]

umm

nooooo

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

[proud creek]

dawggg

[spare quartz]

tcpspammer... no longer malicious!!

(intentional DoS for the win)

the good news

after all of that

the server still responds instantly

[timid quartz]

ok I think I'm ready to send user input in

lol

[spare quartz]

9e5843tre8

honestly at the durations you're sending these i keep confusing you for gmail/other mail servers

considering they're all queue systems

[timid quartz]

LOL

yeah

I should uh

maybe remove the date

[spare quartz]

p.s.

you should use BDAT instead of DATA

[timid quartz]

bdat

huh

[spare quartz]

just do

BDAT <size of your message> LAST
<raw message>

[timid quartz]

binary data

[spare quartz]

yeah

[timid quartz]

oh I see

[spare quartz]

extension i have support for

[timid quartz]

ic ic

[spare quartz]

hm

good for an email server?

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz check meower

most recent

[spare quartz]

there is no meower mailbox

did you mean aera

[timid quartz]

I sent it to meower

and your server said 250 received

OH

I

didn't change the header

@spare quartz yeah aera

[spare quartz]

From: "Aerasto" <[email protected]>
To: "Meower" <[email protected]>
Subject: HAHAH MEOW

So this is user input
...
yeah pretty cool ig
except that I didn't add the ability to have like
a new line between paragraphs
so this is all gonna be condensed in one block of text
lol haha

[timid quartz]

SICK

acutally cool

[spare quartz]

is this using BDAT too

[timid quartz]

no

[spare quartz]

aw man

im gonna get started on POP3 support now

[timid quartz]

ngl doing this in zig is

[spare quartz]

servers still gonna be running since im expecting a response from someone else though

[timid quartz]

a bit painful

[spare quartz]

SMTP in ada is painful aswell

what're you facing in zig though

[timid quartz]

this is probably the most painful part

[spare quartz]

woah that is

ugly

[timid quartz]

and the lsp is kinda bad so a lot of the time I have to like

exit

zig build

"oh weird error"

[spare quartz]

LUCKY

[timid quartz]

LOL

the explicit alloc stuff is nice

but

idk it's just kinda painful too

especially with all the try

[spare quartz]

i have to coat everything in

declare
  LastRead : Character;
begin
  loop
    Character'Read (Channel, LastRead);
    -- ... CRLF checks
  end loop;  
end;

[timid quartz]

I can't exactly do "\r\n" as a delimiter though

a delimiter is expected to be ONE u8

so if I wanted to read from say the TLS connection

can't do that

[spare quartz]

oh. ew

still

more preferable than this

[timid quartz]

oh boy

I will probably try to rewrite this in Rust

but

later

if I put more effort into that zig code I could have made it prettier too but ehhh

[spare quartz]

whats this about

[_] = auto size
[] = array
const u8 = your Character type?

[timid quartz]

yeah

so [_] is auto size array

for the array literal

the [] denotes like...unknown/arbitrary size I believe

[spare quartz]

yayyy

[timid quartz]

and u8 is the character type

strings and []u8s are the same thing in zig

[spare quartz]

good to know my language literacy isnt awful

[spare quartz]

same case in ada

we just have Bounded/Unbounded strings to back them up

[spare quartz]

(unlike zig though, this isnt possible in ada, you need an access type)

[timid quartz]

this looks a whole lot better

after shuffling some lines around

[spare quartz]

@pastel tinsel stopit

[pastel tinsel]

LOL

OHG OGD

I SET IT TO 1k

[spare quartz]

do it one more time and i will block your ip

[pastel tinsel]

HELP

MY PC

[timid quartz]

^^ atp

[spare quartz]

lemme just write this in a way i understand

[timid quartz]

I feel like I could make this code a lot cleaner in Rust tbh

but I've had enough of this for now

[spare quartz]

[]T := array(bounds) of T;
type T_Array is array (Natural range <>) of T;
[*]T := access T_Array;

theres one funny part about ada

[pastel tinsel]

what if I sent the script to astro

[spare quartz]

theres no 0 or 1 indexing

[timid quartz]

huh

is everything just...a map?

[timid quartz]

btw ada has syntax highlighting

[spare quartz]

subtype Natural is Integer range 0 .. Integer'Last;
type Array_Of_Things is array (23 .. 454) of Natural;

[spare quartz]

thats not valid ada code

[timid quartz]

still

[spare quartz]

👁️.

[timid quartz]

interesting

I don't think any other language can really express this quite like that

but if I were to do this in rust, I'd just use a HashMap and use numbers in that range as keys

because if you .get() and the key isn't there you just get None

[spare quartz]

in ada that'd throw a constraint_error i believe (maybe program_error if the bounds aren't checked?)

you could do the same thing with Ada.Containers.Ordered_Maps(/Hashed_Maps) but, i dont see the use case there

[spare quartz]

(then again, if Index >= Array_Of_Things'Range'First then ... end if;)

bleh. theres still so much about ada i dont quite understand but i think im getting to that point

[pastel tinsel]

wait

atp

I just realized

are you running it on linux or windows?

[spare quartz]

both

[pastel tinsel]

what

[spare quartz]

wsl

[pastel tinsel]

oh

so

ok

linux has better file paths

wait did that

does it clean inbox names

[spare quartz]

no it just doesnt accept your email

[pastel tinsel]

so is it not accepting them or

[spare quartz]

its not writing them

and i just turned it off to add a few things

[full berry]

are you people still telnetting

[pastel tinsel]

maybe

I

am was

spamming atp

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz damnit do you force close a connection if someone spams you

[spare quartz]

im actually adding that rn

[timid quartz]

oh

boo

[spare quartz]

• forcing tls

ill ALSO

be adding a restricted mailbox file

@pastel tinsel so you dont write 100s of chars long mailboxes

[pastel tinsel]

loloolol

[spare quartz]

ill also be adding SPF checks but

not now since i know you cant meet those

[pastel tinsel]

const { Worker, isMainThread, parentPort } = require('worker_threads');
const nodemailer = require('nodemailer');

const WORKERS = 200;

let transporter = nodemailer.createTransport({
    host: 'javart.zip',
    secure: false,
    port: 43674,
});

function getRandomString(l) {
    return (Math.random() + 1).toString(36).substring(l);
}

if (isMainThread) {
    const workerThreads = [];

    for (let i = 0; i < WORKERS; i++) {
        workerThreads.push(new Worker(__dirname));
    }

    workerThreads.forEach((worker, index) => {
        worker.postMessage({ task: index });
    });
} else {
    parentPort.on('message', message => {
        console.log(`Worker ${process.pid}: Received task ${message.task}`);

        performTask(message.task);
    });

    function performTask(task) {
        const getData = async (resolve, reject, count) => {
            let mailOptions = {
                from: `${getRandomString(100)}@${getRandomString(100)}.net`,
                to: `${getRandomString(100)}@javart.zip`,
                subject: getRandomString(10),
                text: getRandomString(10000)
            };

            await transporter.sendMail(mailOptions);
            console.log(`Sent email from task: ${task}`);

            count++;

            getData(resolve, reject, count);
        }

        const runScript = async () => {
            await new Promise((r, j) => getData(r, j, 0));
        };

        runScript();
    }
}

@full berry

this can only go well

[timid quartz]

it's down rn

[pastel tinsel]

1984

[full berry]

what

oh hell no

bro i tried running a while true

that ended up GREATLY

[spare quartz]

making the error messages fail fast to reduce the indentss..

[pastel tinsel]

you did it wrong

[full berry]

@pastel tinsel devsite: https://medal.tv/games/roblox/clips/iGuZtNARC-TeTM69e/d1337qwJv7rE?invite=cr-MSxBUTMsMTcwNjA0MjE1LA

[pastel tinsel]

you have to yield for each post

so I just make them run on threads

seprate

and it works

[spare quartz]

there

[timid quartz]

lol I made it through 6 messages @spare quartz

[spare quartz]

?

[pastel tinsel]

wait so

[spare quartz]

... how?

[pastel tinsel]

ddue what

LOL

[timid quartz]

was it off or smth

[spare quartz]

yes its off

you're probably reading trash

[timid quartz]

huh interesting

[pastel tinsel]

magic

[timid quartz]

well the stream got opened and the writes worked

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pastel tinsel]

huh

[spare quartz]

yes it opens the stream for a moment then closes them

thats why some ports on my nmap are open for no discernible reason

[timid quartz]

you should turn it on so I can spam you in a way that bypasses your hashset

[spare quartz]

there isnt a hashset

it just kicks you out after a count

[pastel tinsel]

oh

boo

[spare quartz]

you do realize you are the sole cause right

[timid quartz]

:3333333

[pastel tinsel]

yeah

but

:(

[timid quartz]

not you ben

I was spamming Atp last night

[pastel tinsel]

ho

oh

I just spammed atp

too

[spare quartz]

yeah and i made a program that kicked your ass 💀

[pastel tinsel]

like a lot

[timid quartz]

listen I got my anti-spam up too

at least for repeated messages

[spare quartz]

AFTER LIKE AN HOUR

[timid quartz]

DIE

[pastel tinsel]

lmfaooo

[spare quartz]

ada protected objects on-top

[timid quartz]

Rust is special with top-level values

It really doesn't like mutable shared state especially at the top level

if I had been smart enough to do this last night I would have kicked your ass too

[spare quartz]

how big is the binary

[timid quartz]

uh it's a debug build

but 448kb

[spare quartz]

FUCK

[timid quartz]

haha

[spare quartz]

i have mine on maximum optimizations (performance wise) 😭

[timid quartz]

lemme do release build

[spare quartz]

ada binaries are kinda fat ive noticed

[timid quartz]

this may or may not include the other function that receives connections from you

I'm not sure if rust strips that out since it's unused or not

[spare quartz]

it probably scrubs out dead code

[timid quartz]

release mode is 197kb

[spare quartz]

STILL
mines probably faster..

[timid quartz]

nuh uh

the zig thing is 3.3mb lol

[spare quartz]

oh.

[timid quartz]

granted that's also a debug build

zig debug binaries are FAT

lemme do .ReleaseSmall

[spare quartz]

i wonder how big ada debug builds are

(excluding the .ALIs)

all builds

[timid quartz]

ReleaseSmall is 389k

for Zig

[spare quartz]

435743864364

[timid quartz]

and that's including all that message-sending stuff + tls client

[spare quartz]

i wonder how to optimize for size in ada honestly

(excluding the Restrictions)

[timid quartz]

cmon stupid LLVM Emit Object

ReleaseFast is 828k

[spare quartz]

yay!!

fatter than ada!!

i get second place in something

[timid quartz]

I would guess a proper rust implementation of an SMTP server would be on par with Ada

because that rust program is incredibly small

honestly it should be on the order of 100kb or less

[spare quartz]

the actual SMTP stuff is big

meanwhile the base is tiny

[timid quartz]

chomk

ReleaseSafe in Zig is 1mb

[spare quartz]

binary

[timid quartz]

FAT

[spare quartz]

OH

okay i think i might know why ada is so fat then

considering the language. is that

[timid quartz]

yeah kekw

[spare quartz]

literally never have gotten a regular segfault

its always something throwing an exception before it can

thisll show em

[timid quartz]

I have also never had Zig or Rust segfault

...Zig maybe mayyyyyybe

Rust never

[spare quartz]

the System.Address when i Program_Error 😰

oh goddd

hm

i wonder if a Stream_Access needs a file to be in memory or not

[timid quartz]

what if i dont wanna starttls

[spare quartz]

then BadRequests goes up by 1

and you dont wanna see it when it goes over 25

[timid quartz]

:(

bro put fail2ban inside the smtp server

[spare quartz]

pain

[timid quartz]

will you actually block IPs lol

[spare quartz]

when i can yes

[timid quartz]

:(((((

[spare quartz]

because windows is hiding your ips i cant do that rn

without. blocking myself

[timid quartz]

but I don't wanna use your server responsibly

[spare quartz]

oh you know what would be funny

if your client fails enough times it juts runs tcpspammer on you

THAT will show them

[timid quartz]

LOL YEAH

DO THAT

unless it's google

[spare quartz]

google closes the connection if you fail too many times

itd probably catch on

there

servers ready

[timid quartz]

I swear

Rust is simultaneously easier and harder

Zig has better functions for reading

[spare quartz]

give me a second i have to actually Ban* a few ips

[timid quartz]

wowww

don't ban mine I promise to be nice

[spare quartz]

you didnt just send 2000 faulty emails

so

[timid quartz]

LOL

I can send 2000 faulty emails

[spare quartz]

and you will be banned forever as a result

so dont

[timid quartz]

aww

[pastel tinsel]

just use a new ip

[timid quartz]

no fun

I thought you wanted to stress-test your server atp

[spare quartz]

we already did that and ive said to stop 3 times now

• if i wanted to actually test it thats what tcpspammer is for

[timid quartz]

I suppose I should be using the network responsibly

and if you asked thrice then

[spare quartz]

ill just pipe over any banned requests to adfs.dodiis.mil

👍

[pastel tinsel]

what

[timid quartz]

what is that

[spare quartz]

https://www.dia.mil/Employee-Resources/

@timid quartz is the ip you're sending from connected to aerasto.xyz

[timid quartz]

no lol

[spare quartz]

well then ill just email you some credentials to use when logging in

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

you dont need to do anything but just enter HELO differently

[timid quartz]

logging in?

you're making this authenticated???

[spare quartz]

no

[timid quartz]

also when I write it in rust I may start using ehlo and bdat

[spare quartz]

SMTP-AUTH is primarily for submission servers only

im just making you identify with a certain domain and limits

[timid quartz]

oh pop3

[spare quartz]

no

submission refers to port 587 of SMTP

a restricted subset of the protocol meant for clients to send in email that will be relayed

its not supported rn

[timid quartz]

so are you closing 25 then?

[spare quartz]

25 is mandatory

[timid quartz]

ohhh wait I see

so like...

if I have [email protected]

and my client wants to send email to [email protected]

[spare quartz]

i will take that email and send it to yourmom.com yes

with port 25 i am not operating an open relay, so emails meant for other domains will not be saved/relayed

[timid quartz]

right ok

I might set up dovecot on my VPS then and connect it to aerasto.xyz so I can test submission functionality for you

[spare quartz]

good enough

[timid quartz]

...or steal your ada impl

...or make a rust impl

but spf and dkim

[spare quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

nvm

[spare quartz]

. That is, on most systems, a very large number.

[timid quartz]

?

[timid quartz]

wow

[spare quartz]

hmm

@timid quartz are you able to setup an SPF record for your domain

just make sure your local computers ip in it

[timid quartz]

uh lemme c

studying combinatorics rn

[spare quartz]

dammit

the air force beat me to it :<

[timid quartz]

haha

not to say you can't do it tho

[spare quartz]

size limits are now a thing

[spare quartz]

neat thank you

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz LOL I EMAILED MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT

LET'S GO

[spare quartz]

good job!!!

im trying to figure out gtk again

[timid quartz]

cringe

why did you want me to set up SPF anyways @spare quartz

[spare quartz]

so i can actually verify you

[timid quartz]

[spare quartz]

im still a bit mad over that spam earlier so

[timid quartz]

are you gonna reject anyone with no SPF then

implements DKIM and DMARC

[spare quartz]

DMARC decides wether to use SPF or DKIM or both for verification of a domain, set by the domain

i consult that first

rn i have the server up waiting for a reply from a certain site

[timid quartz]

google

[spare quartz]

adacore

[timid quartz]

for the event thing right

[spare quartz]

thinking...

[spare quartz]

yeah

its tmrw

[timid quartz]

I love how you set up an entire ada email server for one email

instead of just like

making a proton account lol

[spare quartz]

it says it requires a "professional email" so like

@us.af.mil or something

i think the more ironic part is the fact that its like.

a hands on introduction to ada

[timid quartz]

and @javart.zip is professional?

[spare quartz]

... while i just wrote my own ada server

[timid quartz]

yeah fr

bro is already past the intro

[spare quartz]

its a personal domain, so, yeah

gmail can be used by... anyone

[timid quartz]

fair

[spare quartz]

i wonder when the next ada spec will come out

83, 95, 12, 22

hmm

Ada 2036?

wait lemme do some math

okay so by the time "ada 2036" will come out

JDK 46 should exist

JDK 100 will come out in approximately

39 years

[timid quartz]

@spare quartz all that work to allow me to hopefully read until \r\n

forgot to clear the buf at the bottom of the loop

[spare quartz]

ow

my foot died

[spare quartz]

this is rust right

[timid quartz]

yeah

[spare quartz]

the code looks dangerous

i dont know how your reading semantics go but

in ada reading too far will cause the application to hang awaiting data

at least thats how im looking at it

[timid quartz]

read() just reads whatever is there

[spare quartz]

bwa

😭

[timid quartz]

though it is possible this blocks

I may have to handle ErrorKind::WouldBlock

[spare quartz]

need to figure that out one day..

how would i exactly do a record lookup in ada

[timid quartz]

ok slightly edited code

don't mind the printlns

I need to check the WouldBlock thing with an actual TCP connection

but for stdin it worked

I also had to add the 'read thing to tell the break where to go lol

[spare quartz]

'read? attribute? ada reference?

[timid quartz]

think more like Kotlin labels

[spare quartz]

wait no

we have those too

they're.. labels? iirc?

for goto/exit

[timid quartz]

goto considered unsafe

Dijkstra

[spare quartz]

bleh never say that again

[timid quartz]

lol

[spare quartz]

gotos fine as long as you know what you're doing

i see it as more of a praticality thing

iirc its used once in my png library to skip decoding for a certain element

mainly cause the alternative would be a lot of branching

[timid quartz]

worked

[spare quartz]

HI

yay thats fun :3

finally after 10 years of using someone elses api as a reference for how my program should work

its the other way around

[timid quartz]

I mean

You didn't invent SMTP

[spare quartz]

api

a specification by itself doesnt do any work

[timid quartz]

it doesn't no

but your api adheres to the specification

so I'm really following the spec and not your api

[spare quartz]

wwwwwweeelll

it doesnt follow the specification to a t

just the parts i could ctrl + f and look at someone elses implem-

[timid quartz]

LOL

the realization

https://tenor.com/view/why-gif-23081781

grr why can this not trim

the stupid

\r\n off

[spare quartz]

cant you just slice from 1 to Length - 2