#Completionist Cape

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past lynx
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I think normal comp cape should have 1k quest points and trimmed 5k so i dont have to quest

next sparrow
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Obtain all slayer mask and helms Trimmed

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this was untrim right

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dont u need 1k for maly

past lynx
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Ye

next sparrow
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think 5k fine

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maybe u get zippy

undone horizon
next sparrow
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ok fixed

wraith ibexBOT
next sparrow
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this is listed as trimmed?

undone horizon
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yknow that should be untrimmed

next sparrow
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its actually on there twice

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fixed

undone horizon
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we thought balloon cat was on log, but its from Random Events and only shows on cpets

wraith ibexBOT
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That's not a valid collection log type.

next sparrow
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what is activities cl

wraith ibexBOT
past lynx
next sparrow
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any pumpkin shit dc?

wraith ibexBOT
undone horizon
wraith ibexBOT
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No items found.

next sparrow
wraith ibexBOT
next sparrow
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some untrim cls are listed twice

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but i cba fixing atm i go sleep gn

dense nacelle
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Magna see the work to get this done and just say fuck it. 00asd1

undone horizon
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Glad we finally got it all hashed out.

dense nacelle
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Yeah I saw hope it gets done excited to have a super endgame goal

latent mason
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I don’t like CL completion in either one

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Massive disadvantage to people who started after umb stopped giving cox/tob capes

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Skip 2000 cm cox and tob and save like 3000+ hours?

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Also still toa and doa have 2k kc capes too

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100% cl is never realistically obtainable

undone horizon
delicate basin
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I dont like having it have 100% pvm completion. 90% for untrimmed and 100 for trimmed might be better. Certain items are obnoxious. Like cox capes, inferno pet, kk pet. Ect. Id like there to be an end game goal, but having only like 2 people in game w the cape seems a bit much.

next sparrow
delicate basin
next sparrow
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i dont think anyone would have reqs for it initially

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but i think all the pvm isnt bad for untrimmed except raids capes

nova perch
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100% cl isnt impossible but it definitely requires dedication. That being said it shouldnt be considered anyone will get 100% for a requirement

next sparrow
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its not

nova perch
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yeah i was just adding on to what aomeone else said

next sparrow
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ah

nova perch
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the only thing i dont want is the completion to be tied down to umb rng

next sparrow
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its not either

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check pins

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theres a spreadsheet with reqs

nova perch
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on mobile didnt see

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ty

nova perch
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goldemar is a bit rough for untrimmed imo

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~500 hours+ for warhammer on rate vs toa ~900 hours guaranteed seems like its closer to trimmed category

potent field
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I just beg there isn't 5b xp reqs 😂

next sparrow
potent field
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sounds good, do you have a list of what the current reqs might be?

next sparrow
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pinned document

next sparrow
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@tawdry patrol @shrewd vortex

shrewd vortex
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As a person who hasn't finished

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I think that goldemar should still be included

next sparrow
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I agree think it should be untrimmed

nova perch
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im fine grinding anything but i just don't think its in the same tier

potent field
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@next sparrow question, will some of the tasks be marked as completed if they were done prior to cape being added? For example growing tames etc

next sparrow
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Surely

gaunt blade
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Comp cape needs to be something difficult, not something everyone can get. I think 100% cl pvm sounds good tbh. Maybe remove the 2k cox cape only, rest should be essy

next sparrow
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Raids 100% is on trimmed

gaunt blade
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Aight, sounds good

next sparrow
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Check pinned document

gaunt blade
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But goldemar is like a 800hr grind if you're unlucky. Kk pet is harder to get

next sparrow
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Got all reqs listed and the tier

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Get to grindingpeepoHappeh

gaunt blade
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Been grinding cl pvm forever sadCat almost done tho HamPog

next sparrow
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Goldenar only like 500-600hr grind on rate

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Plus all this content been out forever

gaunt blade
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Ye, or 2hrs if you're me KEKW

next sparrow
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Yh

gaunt blade
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Quickly looked through it and it looks good HamPog

next sparrow
unreal thorn
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i really think normal comp should require 500m all

undone horizon
next sparrow
dense snow
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People always want it to be easier :p

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Tbf there's really no perk for comp cape untrimmed yet @next sparrow

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We should give it something?

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Boost to clues? Idk

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Also was music cape added

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And the bitfields

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Neither were added

wraith ibexBOT
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twilit owl
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so put them in

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no point in sugar coating it

dense snow
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No those are exceptions

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1a maybe but dyes and phats there arent enough to go around

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It should be something everyone could get

twilit owl
next sparrow
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Ye idk perk for untrimmed

twilit owl
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tbh

next sparrow
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Dyes become the bottleneck quick

twilit owl
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and most dyes would not be a bottleneck, even if they did, so be it

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obviously excluding, dc dyes

next sparrow
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They’re currently too rare to be feasibly grinded

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I’m 6 3a dye rolls in 50k opens

twilit owl
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isnt that 12 dyes?

next sparrow
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So 12 dyes and you need 9

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Per person

twilit owl
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and?

next sparrow
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Unreasonably rare

twilit owl
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50k opens isnt impossible, and you will need more just for the 1a items

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on average

next sparrow
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In the whole of bso there haven’t been enough 3a dyes for more than maybe 15-20 ppl to get dyed cl

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It’s too unreasonable

dense snow
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It's not theoretically possible for everyone to get dyed log

next sparrow
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Yh

dense snow
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Its not theoretically possible for everyone to get one 1a or phat log

twilit owl
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actually, i dont even think 3

dense snow
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Doesnt matter

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It should be possible for everyone

next sparrow
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Ye

dense snow
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Not everyone will but everyone could

twilit owl
dense snow
next sparrow
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It should be a reasonable requirement not nigh impossible

twilit owl
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thats the whole point

dense snow
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It's not

twilit owl
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how tf is it not?

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explain how people cant open gms

dense snow
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There literally isnt enough crackers for 1k people to complete phats

twilit owl
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who cant do it

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who has the commands locked

next sparrow
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The items don’t exist and won’t for years more

dense snow
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That's 20k+ crackers

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So it isnt theoretically possible

twilit owl
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and people have bought the CL or flatout earned it, over a long grind

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thats how it should be

dense snow
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Youre not understanding or don't want to

twilit owl
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has a healthy market, but also is something to grind for

dense snow
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If its not possible for everyone then it's not a requirement

twilit owl
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its just not easy to achieve

dense snow
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Did you read

twilit owl
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and cant be done in a year

dense snow
twilit owl
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and?

dense snow
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Probably 30k or 40k

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Do you understand what theoretically possible means

next sparrow
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Sure it’s possible if you wait 10-15 yrs

twilit owl
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and yet people have those logs finished

dense snow
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Okay

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Bye

tawdry patrol
dense snow
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Reread it until you understand

tawdry patrol
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also i guess we should just make comp unattainable for irons

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unless u play for 20yrs

twilit owl
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iron is a self imposed restriction

dense snow
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Agree

twilit owl
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its gonna take 50x the time, atleast

dense snow
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Do more mystery trees

twilit owl
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^

dense snow
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Unnerf trees for irons tbf

twilit owl
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i would be fine with that

tawdry patrol
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yes but a cape shudnt have reqs that are primarily buyable

twilit owl
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i disliked the nerf anyways

dense snow
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It doesnt

tawdry patrol
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i know

twilit owl
tawdry patrol
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but turtle’s suggestion would make it so

next sparrow
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Sheli agreeing with you for once bugz

tawdry patrol
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cl is attainable? just look at felris whos top 10 cl

dense snow
tawdry patrol
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full dyed cl is not attainable buy anyone whos not buying it

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unless u play for 2 decades

dense snow
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Only dt can do full dyed log legitly

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And he did not run his caskets for sure

tawdry patrol
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im sure he also didn’t get all the drygores, dwwh, and hfb himself either

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and gorajan

dense snow
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Gorajan easily

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Dwwh probably not

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@next sparrow added more to spreadsheet

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Might want another copy

wraith ibexBOT
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You don't meet the requirements to buy this:

  • You need the following KC's: 1x Kraken, 1x TzTok-Jad, 1x King Black Dragon, 1x Vorkath, 1x Bryophyta, 1x Alchemical Hydra, 1x Zalcano.
  • You need 1x laps in the Agility Pyramid agility course.
  • You need to Runecraft these runes at least once: Mind, Air, Water, Fire, Earth, Nature, Death, Body, Cosmic, Chaos, Astral, Wrath.
  • You need to do one of EVERY activity, you haven't done... Cooking, Fishing, Firemaking, TiaraRunecraft, Burying, and 47 others.
  • You need to do these minigames at least once: Tempoross, Brimhaven Agility Arena, Mahogany Homes, Rogues' Den, Gauntlet.
  • You need atleast 25% favour in Arceuus, Lovakengj, Piscarilius.
next sparrow
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Ok nice

undone horizon
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@dense snow @next sparrow the final final? Are we finally done lol

next sparrow
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Think we want a perk for untrimmed but other than that Yh believe so

undone horizon
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Never really thought that far ahead tbh. I was mainly invested into 1 master cape to replace the 4 experts.

dense snow
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That's trimmed

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Because perk is omega

undone horizon
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Are you talking to Thorru or me lol

gaunt blade
dense snow
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@undone horizon you

undone horizon
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Has anyone had any ideas about an untrimmed perk?

dense snow
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If you want 500ms to be untrimmed then what is trimmed gonna do

undone horizon
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Dunno. Hopefully people more creative than me can brainstorm something.

Trimmed being the super hard long time cape that’s a huge investment to get and it’s only perk is to act like the 4 Expert Capes feels very sub par.

dense snow
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I could go either way

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@amber marsh one of the capes will be a combination of all the master capes. Do you have any ideas for a perk for the other

woven bay
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Untrimmed cape gets you the perk, so a lot of people can stop there and feel good. But if you're really sweaty you can go for trimmed to show off

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You could maybe give trimmed cape +1 min trip timer idk

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If you have trimmed cape idk what perk you'd even want/need anymore

dense snow
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Free t3?

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@undone horizon @next sparrow @twilit owl @runic plover untrimmed 500m all and expert cape perks. Trimmed t3? If magna approves.

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I'm sure only like 3 or 4 people will get the free t3 for a while

undone horizon
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That is def a perk that would be worth going for.

dense snow
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It seems reasonable right?

jaunty imp
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makes more sense to have the combined cape perk be more attainable, so I like it

dense snow
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Thats true

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@undone horizon with free t3 maybe 100% leagues isn't unreasonable too

undone horizon
undone horizon
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🤷🏻‍♂️

dense snow
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By the time you have everything else done 100% leagues only has a couple things left

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1k zalcano, 1k gnome, 1b all

undone horizon
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I think Trim as T3 is good personally. Leagues is just a side quest. With T3 people could give/spawn boxes + lamp. And people could finally check some T3 only stats.

dense snow
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First we need t3 for trimmed approved

dense nacelle
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How would the cape work with future content? As it will need to be updated ever time there is a new cl or minigame

dense snow
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Yes

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The cape would be revertible so youre not locked out of master perks

dense nacelle
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Can that be coded on the bot though? New minigame is added and I lose my comp cape will it be unequiped?

dense snow
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Probably like if comp cape requirements= true, comp cape similar items: v, wx, y, z

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So not unequipped but stops working

dense nacelle
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Magna said something similar when the music cape was being added it was too much work

dense snow
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Music cape doesnt have a perk tho

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Up there is a very simple workaround

dense nacelle
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But in terms of updating requirements to an item people are have.

dense snow
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What about it?

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You still have the item so what? It stops working

dense nacelle
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Yeah, I guess.

delicate basin
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Completionist cape ahould take like 2-3 years. Some of this shit would take like 6

dense snow
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Nah

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You cant judge by days or years either because everyone plays different. Hours based only

woven bay
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I'd think the trimmed T3, if that happens, could just be toggled off every update, and have to retoggle it yourself when you have reqs again

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cuz I assume it would be a bitfield

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Messing with the capes themselves is probably trickier, and maybe not worth it idk

dense snow
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A bitfield yeah probably

potent field
delicate basin
dense snow
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I don't agree

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I think it's in the 2-3 year range

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For reference, 5b all is about 3.5 years without lamping

potent field
delicate basin
potent field
woven bay
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Yeah idk if it can be coded that way, but i feel like all pvm non-pet drops should be untrimmed. Because I'd think comp cape should be people who have all expert capes + BIS gear.

And then trimmed also require the pets

potent field
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Although I’ve been farming eastern ferrets for 11 days now and 5000qp and I still have no zippy

woven bay
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But idk if there is a clean way to separate the pets out like that

potent field
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So maybe you’re closer than I thought

woven bay
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My general philosophy is:
Comp cape untrimmed should be functional reqs. When you're the best a player can be with all the boosts and best gear. You should have comp cape

Trimmed is all the extra non-functional stuff on top. Going above and beyond maxing your minion.

twilit owl
twilit owl
woven bay
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Yeah that's what I kinda assumed

delicate basin
dense snow
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All leagues i put under trimmed

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And by the time you have every other trimmed requirement done you'll be 99% done with leagues anyway

potent field
delicate basin
wraith ibexBOT
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Total Activities: 25658
Common Activities: 3973x Farming, 2834x MonsterKilling, 2604x Birdhouse
Total Minion Activity: 447 days, 1 hour, 5 minutes, 34 seconds
First Activity: MonsterKilling 2021-07-05
Average Per Day: 15 hours, 4 minutes, 8 seconds

dense snow
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@delicate basin

delicate basin
dense snow
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Show that command

delicate basin
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Not t3

dense snow
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Im close yeah

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And most of my time has been skilling as you know

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And started like 2 years late

woven bay
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I'd remove camdozaal cl as a req personally until you can complete it without box RNG. I also feel iffy on HMB and CMB cls being required for untrimmed. It's just buyables for mains and for irons it could lock you out. I'd prefer the GMC route of picking a number of boxes to obtain and open instead.

I also think for farming maybe add the other special crops. Shiny mango is there, but not the special cabbage, corn, strawberry, etc (I forget what all there is)

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And I wonder if 1k gms is too few for trimmed. I'd double that personally

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I have over 2k gms and I have never grinded for them, and I still have a long way to go on some other reqs for comp/trim that will probably net me several hundred more gms

dense nacelle
delicate basin
potent field
woven bay
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I'm not too far off, custom boss pets, and raid capes are probably the big grinds i have left. i have a handful of 500ms i still need as well, but mostly just the fast ones left

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Caamdozal and cmb CLs could possibly be an issue. I'm 1 short on caam and like 2 short on cmb i think

wraith ibexBOT
dense snow
woven bay
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Is shiny cat not on growables?

dense snow
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No

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Not on any cl

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Same as the ones you want

wraith ibexBOT
woven bay
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What's the purple one?

dense snow
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Magic

woven bay
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Ah k

dense snow
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I somewhat agree on boxes going to trim

woven bay
dense snow
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Its 3 hours

woven bay
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Although it is passive

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Oof

dense snow
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Its not a cl slot

woven bay
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Yeah, I'm saying if we added it

dense snow
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And its technically 0 time. You do it incidentally

woven bay
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The special crops aren't that bad are they? Idk rates off hand

dense snow
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Theyre not

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But theyre not on cl

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They take like 5 trips it's not worth adding as a task i think

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Novelty

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Youre right that cmb and hmb logs hurt ironmen

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But also, self imposed restrictions

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I could go either way

woven bay
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I know, i just think they should be on the cl, cuz the shiny mango is, so it seems inconsistent. And we're already making changes to CLs. Just a suggestion

woven bay
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I'd rather focus on that than the ironman thing, cuz I'm obviously biased. And i get that it will and should be more difficult for Ironmen

dense snow
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Shiny mango has use

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I'm sus on this one

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Build the highest tier (level requirement) item in every POH Slot

dense nacelle
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At this point all I want is to be able to combine all my expert capes and call it a day.

next sparrow
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ok so 500m capes on untrim?

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was that consensus?

dense snow
next sparrow
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@amber marsh opinion

woven bay
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idk why the trimmed cape needs a perk. Normal capes gives perks, trim is cosmetic. That's how skillcapes are, that's how music/quest/achievement capes are, that's how the actual comp cape is

dense snow
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Doesn't hurt to have a perk

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Rs3 should give free mems for comp t tbh

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Anyway spreadsheet looks ready to present

magic badge
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sea kraken CL is kinda hard to complete if you don't get lucky with fishing trophy from boxes should be trimmed imo

amber marsh
amber marsh
dense snow
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Comp cape t is very hard

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It's everything in the game done

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The pinned spreadsheet is ready for you @amber marsh

amber marsh
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what exactly are the hardest thingsfor trimmed

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it seems strange to me that some cls are untrimmed some are trimmed, is that how rs3/osrs would have it done?

amber marsh
dense snow
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No

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Because no one would get it

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Hardest tasks are 100% leagues and full custom pets

amber marsh
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also another thing we should put in the sheet if it isn't already:
what items does it take to create/make
what happens if they lose the requirements due to new content being released

dense snow
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Its in there

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Starting at line 229

amber marsh
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if we give free t3 perks for it, which is a possibility but not sure, i think i'd want people to lose the t3 and have to get them again

dense snow
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Yes

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Thats why the suggestion was for a bitfield. Whenever you add new content reset it. Tbh idk how the code would look for the t3 perk. If you lose requirements you should definitely lose the t3

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I think maybe code what we have and then check your data to see how many people could get it and then decide on that. We can always make trimmed harder but there's such a thing as too hard also. E.g. full dyed log

amber marsh
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coding it in such a way that there's several categories, and each category has a %, and then we can have a total %showing your comp cape progress and have a leaderboard with it

dense snow
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Oh good so the categories column helped

ripe pagoda
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think a lot of rng things from untrimmed should be added to trimmed

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historically in rs untrimmed is just time gated reqs, 0 rng

dense snow
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Gotta tell us what's rng

ripe pagoda
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basically the whole pvm cl thats untrim req

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add clues into that as well after another look

magic badge
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Only thing I'd argue thats too rng for pvm section is fishing trophy from sea kraken CL since its 1/100k or 1/??? from umb's. Just buy umbs as a main ofc, but ironmen could easily be gatekeeped from the cape by a silly item which no reasonable method to obtain.

woven bay
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I honestly don't understand the fishing trophy. I'd rather just remove it from the CL or fix the drop rate to something realistic.

wraith ibexBOT
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Showing you the Sea Kraken KC leaderboard, click the buttons to change pages.

woven bay
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highest KC on sea kraken is 48k. SO there's not a single person that's even halfway to drop rate

magic badge
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and im not just complaing cause i dont have it, it is just a dumb cl thing

woven bay
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I do have it, from boxes ofc, but I agree

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Rather than requiring full CLs I think it could be nice to require specific items instead. I mentioned it earlier, but I like the idea of the untrimmed comp cape requiring 500m all skills, and then BIS items. So you'd require all gorajan, tz-kal cape, hellfire bow, etc etc. Basically most pvm CLs minus pets. (and chitin) Then Trimmed requiring the rest, as well as minigames and clues and other non-BIS related cls

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But that might be too big of an ask

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The list would get quite big if we went by individual items

dense snow
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Full bis is still rng right

woven bay
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Yeah, I'm not complaining about rng though. I think some RNG is inevitable. But taking out pets reduces the RNG a bit.

dense snow
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Magna is willing to possibly do free t3 if the requirements are sufficiently difficult

woven bay
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In only talking about the untrimmed cape

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Make the trimmed cape as ridiculous as possible

woven bay
dense snow
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Ye

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I already think untrim is super easy

magic badge
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I think the untrim is fine how it is

amber marsh
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@woven bay @magic badge @dense snow @undone horizon @next sparrow

ive coded a lot of the comp cape tasks, still going

  • Changed Built all STASH Units task to Build AND FILL
  • This task is a bit odd: Complete Grandmaster clue log (excluding 1a and 3a dye). We should maybe move the 1a to its own (rare) cl page (like osrs does). But the weird part is getting all dyes.. except 3a, why?
  • This task is weird/arbitrary: Collect/Complete/Open a single Grandmaster clue
next sparrow
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3a dye is incredibly rare, I’ve hit the roll for it 6 times in 50k opens which is why it was excluded

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I agree move 1a to its own gm (rare) cl

amber marsh
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unless we put the dyes into the (rare) cl with the 1a

undone horizon
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I'd personally be fine with only moving 1a to it's own CL.

amber marsh
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that would make more sense to me

undone horizon
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Also don't really mind if we move 1a + dyes either

next sparrow
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That would prob work

amber marsh
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shouldnt this Unlock and obtain all Slayer Helm recolors (unlock variants) be to unlock ALL slayer unlocks, and then another task to actually create all of those? @next sparrow @undone horizon

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doesnt make sense to me why a completionist task would be to only unlock some things but not all

undone horizon
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I remember something about this because all helms were obtainable from tmb's so it was kind of a moot point either way.

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@amber marsh On line 151 there's another task for "obtaining all slayer masks + helms"

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I guess you could just combine both into 1 task

amber marsh
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<@&1016397048167280660> are people in agreement that, for example, tasks like these are ok: Obtain and use a DTD and Use one Tiny, small, average, large, and huge lamp. Like does rs3 (or osrs community spreadsheets) really require you not to just collect/obtain something, but to also use it?

for something like an arcane prayer scroll, obviously you have to obtain AND use it, because it unlocks something, so you're 'completing' something.

small spindle
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I approve

amber marsh
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@undone horizon @next sparrow @shrewd vortex @urban ember @dense snow

small spindle
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idk bout the spreadsheets tho

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but it seems cool for bot imo

undone horizon
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I don’t mind either way. I feel like most people who have gotten those items have also used them at some point.

dense snow
dense snow
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As for gm rares i say move dyes as well.

dense snow
undone horizon
dense snow
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Because they're different items @undone horizon

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One you spend 5k slayer points to unlock each helm variant, one you kill stuff and get as a drop

undone horizon
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I understand. I’m just saying I don’t see a problem if we wanted to combine them. Either way 🤷🏻‍♂️

woven bay
twilit owl
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im top slayer, and i wont unlock them all, not worth, or worse cus i have to then disable the bad ones later

amber marsh
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a prayer scroll unlocks a prayer, using a dtd doesnt achieve/unlock anything

dense snow
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That's how it's worded for your league task

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It's just a copy of that

wraith ibexBOT
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Description: Receive and use a deathtouched dart
Tier: Elite
7.25% of users have finished this task, including you.

amber marsh
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im gonna just remove the "use" part

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because nobodys giving any reason it should be there

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same with "use" a xp lamp, "use" kibble, etc

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Complete 1k Mmmr this one also seems very arbitrary so im not adding it unless theres some reason for it

dense snow
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1k is the kc required for the best greegree

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And is also a league task

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Use kibble makes sense because youre hunting bso creatures. Although I don't think you can even use extraordinary kibble

twilit owl
# amber marsh same with "use" a xp lamp, "use" kibble, etc

I disagree with kibble, the other ones I agree should not have use, kibble is very simple to make and the sole purpose is for hunter, the other ones I consider rewards and should not have to be used. If it's a reward having to use doesn't make sense.

amber marsh
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theres no completionist substance in just using something though, that would be more of a leagues task thing

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unless this is something that rs3 comp cape and community osrs lists do

twilit owl
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It's required for hunter so would it be better to just require hunting with kibble instead of "use" because with completionist you are going to require doing that anyways for the CL slot

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For both kibble and the chin

dense snow
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I think if both kibble cl and hunter cl are required then the use is fine to remove

dense nacelle
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+1 for progress

amber marsh
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The only "main" CL items not checked for in comp cape tasks are: First age tiara, First age amulet, First age cape, First age bracelet, First age ring, Blood dye, Third age dye, Ice dye, Shadow dye (i had to add a few missing ones like zalcano/trekking)

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which is as expected, as those items were moved to a new/separate "gm rare" cl

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Outside of the main cl, these are items not checked for:

First age tiara, First age amulet, First age cape, First age bracelet, First age ring, Blood dye, Third age dye, Ice dye, Shadow dye, Baby impling jar, Young impling jar, Gourmet impling jar, Earth impling jar, Essence impling jar, Eclectic impling jar, Nature impling jar, Magpie impling jar, Ninja impling jar, Dragon impling jar, Lucky impling jar, Crystal impling jar, Chimpling jar, Infernal impling jar, Eternal impling jar, Mystery impling jar, Black partyhat, Pink partyhat, Rainbow partyhat, Red partyhat, Yellow partyhat, Blue partyhat, Purple partyhat, Green partyhat, White partyhat, Silver partyhat, Chickaxe, Leia, Decorative easter eggs, Cute magic egg, Fancy magic egg, Big mysterious egg, Fancy ancient egg, Sweet small egg, Mysterious magic egg, Big ancient egg, Fancy sweet egg, Eggy, Easter egg backpack, Floppy bunny ears, Egg coating, Chocolate pot, Raw turkey, Turkey, Turkey drumstick, Burnt turkey, Cornucopia, Hoppy, Craig, Smokey, Flappy, Corgi, Snappy the Turtle, Cob, Gregoyle, Mini Pumpkinhead, Seer, Buzz, Kuro, Human appendage, Sliced femur, Human blood, Human tooth, Candy teeth, Toffeet, Chocolified skull, Rotten sweets, Hairyfloss, Eyescream, Goblinfinger soup, Benny's brain brew, Roasted newt, Choc'rock, Haunted cloak, Pumpkinhead's headbringer, Haunted amulet, Haunted gloves, Haunted boots, Pumpkinhead's pumpkin head, Dirty hoe, Boo-balloon, Twinkly topper, Broomstick, Spooky box, Smokey bbq sauce, Pumpkinhead pie, Roasted ham, Corn on the cob, Dougs' chocolate mud, Shepherd's pie, Flappy meal, Smokey painting, Yule log, Gr-egg-oyle special, Roast potatoes, Ratatouille, Fish n chips, Pretzel, Bacon, Prawns, Pavlova, Christmas tree hat, Christmas pudding, Christmas pudding amulet, Festive mistletoe, Christmas tree kite, Festive wrapping paper, Festive jumper (2021), Frozen santa hat, Golden shard, Festive present, Honey, Honeycomb, Beehive, Christmas snowglobe, Festive jumper (2022), Christmas cape, Christmas socks, Tinsel scarf, Frosted wreath, Edible yoyo, Reinbeer, Pork sausage, Pork crackling, Festive treats, Snowman plushie, Snowman top hat, Festive scarf

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let me know if any of those look like they SHOULD be required to obtain for comp cape

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  • impling jars
  • partyhats
  • dyes (currently arent required but probably should be?)

thats all i see

undone horizon
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Looks like all dc. I assume the Birthday 2023 will be excluded as well?

Implings - Could be added as a req since it does have a CL. Getting 1 of each is very easy.

GM Dye's - I believe the majority vote was to not have dyes as a req due to 3a rarity.

amber marsh
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<@&1016397048167280660> @undone horizon @dense snow @woven bay ive finished coding all the comp cape tasks

  • These tasks were NOT added:
Obtain and use a DTD
Use one Tiny, small, average, large, and huge lamp
Use simple, delicious, and extraordinary kibble to hunt
Complete 1k Mmmr
Complete every minigame at least once
Hunt a chimpchompa
  • Some extra/missing tasks were added (not that are really objectionable)
  • Overall+ CL items that ARENT required to be obtained: First age tiara, First age amulet, First age cape, First age bracelet, First age ring, Blood dye, Third age dye, Ice dye, Shadow dye, Baby impling jar, Young impling jar, Gourmet impling jar, Earth impling jar, Essence impling jar, Eclectic impling jar, Nature impling jar, Magpie impling jar, Ninja impling jar, Dragon impling jar, Lucky impling jar, Crystal impling jar, Chimpling jar, Infernal impling jar, Eternal impling jar, Mystery impling jar, Black partyhat, Pink partyhat, Rainbow partyhat, Red partyhat, Yellow partyhat, Blue partyhat, Purple partyhat, Green partyhat, White partyhat, Silver partyhat. (dyes/partyhats). the implings probably are a task by proxy, but i can add a task to get all impling jars maybe. Let me know if we should add a task for dyes and/or partyhats.
  • Here is a list of ALL items in the entire bot/osrs that are not checked for: https://pastebin.com/raw/rYz72qZG (if you see any in here which should be, let us know)
  • The code for all the comp cape tasks is here (its fairly readable even if you cant code): https://github.com/oldschoolgg/oldschoolbot/blob/4995e40dbaab03278d3a4e228f4541443c84b49b/src/lib/compCape.ts
  • A readable list (what players will see) of all tasks is here: #940763057418805308 message
dense snow
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Implings should be checked i believe

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Complete Implings cl was a task we had

next sparrow
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One of each minigame completion not being in is fine ig bc each minigame cl

dense snow
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The creatables log looks like its still being checked. I dont see golden partyhat or any xmas dyed items in the not checked list. @amber marsh

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By that i mean creatables log still needs dc items removed from it

undone horizon
woven bay
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Should creatables be checked at all?

dense snow
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Yes

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The code has implings cl so im not sure why all the jars aren't counting

next sparrow
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Dyed items need removed from creatables as well

dense snow
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Please remove the unlock all slayer unlocks...

woven bay
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I feel like this should say what's trimmed and what's comp

Unless trimmed and comp have different commands
#940763057418805308 message

next sparrow
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It does

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2 trimmed tasks at the bottom

dense snow
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Leagues and main grandmaster?

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Trimmed should also have raids cls

next sparrow
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Yh missing some from the trim/untrim split

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Creatables was trimmed

dense snow
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Oh he moved the raids to the bottom of untrim

next sparrow
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Raids cls

dense snow
next sparrow
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Yh should be trim right

dense snow
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It should be yeah

wraith ibexBOT
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You don't meet the requirements to buy this:

  • You need to Runecraft these runes at least once: Mind, Water, Earth, Body, Cosmic, Wrath.
  • You need to do one of EVERY activity, you haven't done... TiaraRunecraft, DriftNet, DarkAltar, TrickOrTreat, TokkulShop, and 2 others.
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You don't meet the requirements to buy this:

  • You need to Runecraft these runes at least once: Mind, Water, Earth, Body, Cosmic, Wrath.
  • You need to do one of EVERY activity, you haven't done... TiaraRunecraft, DriftNet, DarkAltar, TrickOrTreat, TokkulShop, and 2 others.
dense snow
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Its the same thing lol

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Trickortreat still needs to be removed from music cape requirements

next sparrow
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LOL

dense snow
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Unlock all slayer unlocks absolutely needs to not be a task

next sparrow
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Yea it’s a shit one @amber marsh

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Makes actually doing slayer worse with everything unlocked

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Then you gotta go back and disable most of what you buy

dense snow
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And if you relock will that disable your comp cape

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Probably

next sparrow
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Prob

dense snow
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I also dont see anywhere if the comp cape is going to be bought with all the expert capes + invention cape and act like all the capes? I know acting would be in the similar items code not here but can you confirm

amber marsh
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we need to dos omething with the slayer unlocks

dense snow
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We did do something. All the helms lol

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If you can make it so unlocking once counts forever then its fine

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Otherwise its anti qol

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How about just pore decisions, block and roll, and the other one i forget?

next sparrow
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Add a “spent slayer pts” thing and have a task for spending 10k or whatever is needed

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For helms + block

dense snow
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Nah because skips

next sparrow
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Kk true

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Is there task for x streak?

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Streak doesn’t reset here actually does it

dense snow
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I think it does

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You can tureal skip

next sparrow
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Not big deal tbh 500m slayer is needed anyway

dense snow
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I think the slayer masks and helms one suffices

next sparrow
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Yh

dense snow
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The osrs helms was good because that's like a good 25k? 30k? Points

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Also i think osrs comp cape spreadsheet only requires slayer helms @amber marsh

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That's why tom put it as a task in the first place

next sparrow
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Remove Turkey, black swan, golden partyhat, xmas dyed items from cooking and creatables log.

Remove dyed log from creatables log.

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Think these still need done

amber marsh
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i havent done those extra things at the bottom yet

next sparrow
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Kk np

amber marsh
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we really need tasks for slayer unlocks though i think, unlocks are the main thing for completionist, i know some are not efficient/good to unlock, but still

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cant you unlock them all and disable theones you dont want?

next sparrow
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Yes but then it no longer counts as having all unlocked

dense snow
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You cant no

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If you disable the ones you dont want it relocks the task as if you never unlocked them

next sparrow
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Add “unlocked everything in slayer “bitfield

dense snow
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Lol

next sparrow
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Need some way for it to persist

dense snow
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Ya

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Add a buyable token that requires every unlock before you can buy. Then using the token gives you the bitfield. And the comp and league task can be changed to use that token

undone horizon
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Or if you get the bitfield before then you're just one of the lucky ones.

dense snow
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Cross that bridge when it comes? Can probably just require unlocking the new task

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If new task added. If has slayer unlock bitfield, remove bitfield and add.bank unlock token (1). Buy unlock token (2) with unlock token 1 and check new task status.

Easy

runic plover
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In my view the issue with the slayer unlock league task, which I'm taking as the same for this, is that some of the rewards affect task efficiency quite a lot, so people wouldn't want them unlocked permanently, also the fact that size matters (2x task size) and the dg scroll (2x task size) can't be toggled is something that's annoying for all regardless.

I just pulled the list and it's 15,475 points for unlocks that don't affect tasks, 6,240 that do. Of those that do there is 600 points in polypore tasks (required to get the mask so could check cl, and 1500 in size matters.

If size matters was made toggleable, then essentially you'd have 17.575 points required to get all the unlocks (including 2x and polypore for slayer mask/helm), and 4,140 remaining in either extensions or lock/unlocks, I'd just propose that the task either ignores those remaining tasks, or as suggested you can buy a custom item that just bypasses all of those purchase requirements for the sake of the cape.

Alternatively just add a json bit for slayer unlocks where each unlock is set to 1 when it's purchased, and not changed back to 0 when it's reverted

twilit owl
solemn gorge
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agreed, it just ends up locking slayer - I just unlocked everything and rather than lose the task I just can't slay anymore instead lol

woven bay
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I already unlocked everything the relocked it all once, I don't really want to do it again assuming the bot won't retroactively remember that I had them all unlocked once.

undone horizon
dense snow
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Except that the league task relocks itself

dense nacelle
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I just spent all my points from 500m doing the leagues task and slayer masks it better remember i did them.

dense snow
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It doesn't

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But i see a bitfield in #git-logs

dense nacelle
dense snow
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@amber marsh there's still an issue of raids being untrimmed when we believe they should be trimmed requirements.

woven bay
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imo all the misc ones except quests, and dg should be trimmed.

As it stands trimmed is barely harder than normal comp

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I'd also feel less bad/annoyed about all slayer unlocks if it was a trimmed req. I expect trimmed reqs to be a pain. So I'd be more willing to put up with unlocking all slayer unlocks for a second time to get the bitfield

dense snow
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Trimmed isnt harder atm

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Because 100% leagues is about equivalent to raids cl

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Thats why we had raids in trimmed

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To make trimmed harder

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And untrimmed reasonable

amber marsh
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although .. like

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that doesnt make sense does it

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like thats a pretty arbitrary requirement

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im not sure we sohuld put raids for trimmed

next sparrow
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Reason we had as trim was the capes

dense snow
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Its very important for balance that raids is trimmed

dense nacelle
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This wont change the tasks but the TOA and DOA capes need to be added to the Capes CL. I know raids and capes CL are both trimmed but they are missing.

spring dock
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I hate this

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dense nacelle
spring dock
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It's 10 tasks

dense nacelle
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Right claim daily is an easy task compared to 99% of other tasks on that list.

spring dock
dense nacelle
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Right so claim your daily lols

spring dock
wraith ibexBOT
dense snow
mild geode
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just typing to join

undone venture
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If you read this you owe me a gregoyle.

wraith ibexBOT
wraith ibexBOT
undone horizon
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@amber marsh Don't do this. Make the Completionist Cape cost 1 of each Expert Cape. We already had to buy all the Master Capes to make the Expert Capes.

Also, the Invention Master Cape is it's own thing & not part of any Expert Cape, but the Completionist Cape should also act as the Invention Master Cape.

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frigid fox
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Builds character 🫡

covert cliff
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500m all is literally required for comp cape. Why would i need to spend another 25b to buy all the master capes back just to buy comp cape. It should be a reward for finishing. Not a grind just to buy. Make it 1b to buy like all other master capes seems acceptable

tawdry patrol
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not every little thing needs to be an insane money sink lol

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thats @ magna not u slater btw

frigid fox
covert cliff
woven bay
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Everyones saying 25b, but it would be a 49b minimum cape.

Because 24b for the expert capes which are required. Then 25b for all the master capes.

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If you're desperate to make comp a money sink, add the extra 25b as a trimmed req but not for the untrimmed pls

frigid fox
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This cape has been in the bot for years, it is not required to get it, that is all.

tawdry patrol
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what are u even saying

dense snow
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Ya no it should just be bought with 4 expert capes + invention master cape + 1b. And it has to have the effect of all 25 master capes in one.

amber marsh
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i'm not trying to make any gp sink

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we can make the expert capes revertable into their master capes, perhaps

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i was just trying to simplify it

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so its just "one of each master cape"

amber marsh
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@dense snow@tawdry patrol@covert cliff@undone horizon

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instead of "1 of each expert cape, plus a invention cape" and in the future when more skills are added itll be more

solemn gorge
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If the expert capes get changed so that they can revert I have no issue with that.

undone horizon
dense snow
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@amber marsh what about when new content is released? Will comp cape be revertible as well?

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It sounds like a lot of extra steps

tawdry patrol
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unless a new skill is added it should retain the master cape perks imo

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but if its other content added just remove the other perks it may have

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or we just need another seperate max cape that can be used to make comp cape that it can be reverted into

undone horizon
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Easiest solution imo would be to make the comp cape revert to the 4 expert capes + invention master cape. So if there is new content added for the cape, players can still revert and use their expert capes.

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Also, instead of having invention master cape on its own, should it just finally be added to an expert cape? Keeping it on its own just sounds like a headache to always keep track of for all future updates.

dense snow
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It's separate because that's how it is in rs3

dense snow
tawdry patrol
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even more of a reason to have a seperate max cape and comp is just a flex on top of that

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shouldn’t lose access to max cape perks cuz a new raid that will take me 3 months to finish is added

dense snow
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That's the point of comp cape being revertible

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If there was a max cape that gave perks of all the other capes we wouldn't even need comp cape

tawdry patrol
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comp cape is meant for flex dont think it does anything in rs3 either?

graceful folio
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it looks cool :)

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Should be able to paint the comp cape whatever color you want like in RS3 for free without paint buckets frogBIGEYES

dense nacelle
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@undone horizon you buy it?

undone horizon
dense nacelle
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maybe?

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nope

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nvm

undone horizon
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He was just testing reverting earlier

dense nacelle
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Magna went to bed lol

undone horizon
undone horizon
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8 month discussion but we got the cape added. Don’t let your dreams be dreams.

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undone horizon
next sparrow
dense nacelle
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@next sparrow where you at?

next sparrow
dense snow
wraith ibexBOT
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Showing you the Completionist Leaderboard leaderboard, click the buttons to change pages.

woven bay
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Just curious, but is partyhat set meant to still be required for trimmed? Or was that missed?

wraith ibexBOT
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You sent 50,000,000 GP to @fickle egret.

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undone horizon
steady crown
wraith ibexBOT
wraith ibexBOT
outer wyvernBOT
minor laurel
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Close

outer wyvernBOT
graceful folio
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This isn't #748492771480043620-mental-health