Hi, i built my t1 today with 7800x3d, asus b650e-i wifi and my cpu sits at 75c idle. Im on the latest bios
#7800x3d
lilac kindle
magic flare
the cooler sits correctly, ive checked that 3 times
lilac kindle
which cooler?
magic flare
axp90x53
black one
even with fan at 1200 rpm it should sit at 75c at idle
i have tried pbo at -20
changed nothing
magic flare
yeah
lilac kindle
aight. and...long or short screws, stock mobo backplate or thermalright one, and what paste?
and can you get any pics of the mount? (both backplate and of the cpu socket from the side if possible)
lilac kindle
it...would seem that way
what the fuck
honestly at this point I feel like the only possible thing is the CPU's fucked
something wrong with the IHS maybe?
lilac kindle
I mean it doesn't have to be much off to cause this
like a 10 micron gap would absolutely fuck it
can you easily return and get a new one?
(could also be cooler technically but I don't think it would be THIS drastic. If you wanna be safe you could return both).
magic flare
Idk everything looks normal
Also will pc explode if i don't clean tiny fingerprint of cpu?
The side thst makes co taxt with socket pins
lilac kindle
no, but your family will die (it's fine but not preferable)
lilac kindle
grocery store 
magic flare
But man
Why this have happened
Im home for 3 days!
To build this pc, Play some and go back to work
To another county
And hellyeah this cpu cooked
It runs games fine
It works fine
But is it hot
I expected 45-55c idle
But not 79c
I spent 6 hours
7*
Trying to figure out whats wrong
Maybe its the bios?
magic flare
Its going to exlode if i dont?
Its made to run hot or what
I've seen its okay on benchmarks and fits in t1
magic flare
Swap it out for the x47 copper
What's wrong with nornal 53?
lilac kindle
like...up to 3-5c worse, depending on circumstance
copper conducts heat a lot better than alu
it's not why this is currently fucked
but I digress
magic flare
like...up to 3-5c worse, depending on circumstance
Yesh but 40?
Theres no reason for it currently
It wont drop 30c on idle temps
meager carbon
Get the x47 copper
Am5 naturally runs hot
Every air cooled t1 build as a x47 copper for a reason
magic flare
Every air cooled t1 build as a x47 copper for a reason
Im not spending 2.5x the price on another cooler
meager carbon
Then enjoy your hot cpu and deal with it
magic flare
Then enjoy your hot cpu and deal with it
Awesome help with idle temps mate <3
Sure helped
lilac kindle
what the fuck 
meager carbon
Cu > alu as a conductor
magic flare
Cu > alu as a conductor
Low temps on idle as its made to be > spending money
meager carbon
Every air cooled build has a x47 copper, why break the mold
lilac kindle
but him having the alu cooler is not making the fucking 25+ C difference here
magic flare
Every air cooled build has a x47 copper, why break the mold
I think u missed the point lol
lilac kindle
I don't get why you're hounding his ass about that. He knows it's better. He's not too concerned about that right now given he's 80% of the way to throttling at idle.
magic flare
If ur not trying to help even a little bit dont comment on the post lols
meager carbon
If im not helping out ill Peace out
magic flare
If im not helping out ill Peace out
Thanks mate
lilac kindle
I would return the cooler too tbh
there's something between the silicon and the air that's not conducting heat
based on how extreme it is, I think it's the CPU. But....I don't really have a way to rule out the cooler.
I'm really just running off past experience (of which in this there isn't much to go off) and intuition.
just...out of curiosity, what happens if you run a benchmark or something
magic flare
just...out of curiosity, what happens if you run a benchmark or something
I ran 20 mins cinebench
89 dead on he spot
lilac kindle
yup that's a big fat throttle
magic flare
yup that's a big fat throttle <:kek:1270605293407047701>
i can get this chip to be cool
but when the cooler is 1400rpm
and exhaust is at 1100
idle
insane
magic flare
@lilac kindle i think i found solution
just crank the shit out of the fan
its minimum 1100 rpm
and it runs at around 65c
mid 60s
idle temps now
maybe i just got used to big tower coolers
that i set the fan curve as it was bigger
andi need to be agressive af with smaller ones
(im trying to talk myself into custom loop) lolz
fan curve for cpu fan
still not sure if 65c on such small cooler is considered normal
lilac kindle
It's not, there's something wrong, but 
magic flare
so shall i still return it?
my mate said his ran about same
but the chip is from china
not malysia
looks like x3d chips quality is all over the place
lilac kindle
@shadow goblet what's your 7800x3d idle under the x36?
shadow goblet
<@466164664452251649> what's your 7800x3d idle under the x36?
uhhh fug
gimme a bit to think
assuming my high load was about high 80's and it's tuned, I think it's like 50-60ish(granted it's without side panels on)
fan is tuned as well
so yeah, may need further tuning than PBO itself
as in, CO is not enough on its own
you gotta fiddle with ETC,TDC,PPT values
I can share my tune if you want
and see what that does
magic flare
so 60c is considered 'normal'?
shadow goblet
yeah AM5 is warm at idle. I get 55-60c on 7600 stock under a 47mm FULL copper cooler
but YOUR idle is fucked
magic flare
im thinking about returning the cpu
shadow goblet
Values are ppt 75, edc 65, tdc 70, CO -10
on an AsRock B650E ITX PG
meager carbon
magic flare
shit's difficult sometimes
yeah but i came home for 2 days just to build it 😂
500km from germany one way
but now i need to take it apart tomorrow
shadow goblet
lilac kindle
I think so. I can't personally think of what else is up.
@magic flare what fan % were you at before, when hitting 75c idle
magic flare
<@295182350772338688> what fan % were you at before, when hitting 75c idle
like 700
700-900s
i think
now lowest it will go is 1100
fossil quest
Swap it out for the x47 copper
Aluminum x53 and copper 47 should be fairly similar fwiw
Congrats on matching my 7800x3ds shit behavior tho. I just beheaded mine to fix it
