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glacial nova
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yea, i have viper ultimate (planning to change to finalmouse soon) and the headset is not bad

spring sable
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i am in a budget

glacial nova
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icic

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hm

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let me take a look for ya

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whats ur budget?

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include in currency

spring sable
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i am nepali and my budget is 150 dollors

glacial nova
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usd?

spring sable
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yes

glacial nova
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k

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prefered size @spring sable?

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u have compact (60%), tkl and full size

spring sable
glacial nova
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k then

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huntsman mini or blackwidow v3 (this one 65%)

spring sable
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ok

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i will see

glacial nova
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65% only have like arrow keys and extra 4 keys which u never use

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or i suggest with $150 usd u can get a pretty damn clean custom keyboard

spring sable
glacial nova
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icic

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doesnt they do like shipping to nepal?

spring sable
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here the cynosas is like 150 to 200 usd

spring sable
glacial nova
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thats a scam lmao

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order online

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shipping fees i suggest $10-$20

spring sable
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yes every thing is double or triple its price

glacial nova
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dafuq y

spring sable
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what for a headphone

glacial nova
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?

spring sable
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good headphones for 100 usd

glacial nova
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damn

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i mean

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actually

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yea

spring sable
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in nepal there is a company which is better than razer here razer is rarely used

glacial nova
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mhm

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wat is it

spring sable
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only rich people use razer logitech

glacial nova
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damn

spring sable
glacial nova
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never heard

spring sable
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fantech is a copy of razer

glacial nova
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xd

spring sable
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does razer sell speaker

tiny viper
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that is the brand I constantly see on Amazon

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like those shitty design clones

glacial nova
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yall know any custom keyboard barebone kit under $130?

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im tryna make a new build for my friend

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this is kit, i already have the switches and keycaps and stabs

spring sable
stark forge
white zephyr
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Hey, i got a question for the people that have the Razer Nari Headset.
Did any of you buy a magnetic charging cable, if so what brand? I need one cause i fell like i'm going to break the port each time i want to charge it.

glacial nova
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rn im thinking of extending my budget a bit for the tofu60 allu case and the dz60 pcb

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ill ask him if he wanna extend the budget

solemn crow
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@mint charm Deal: ErGear 13-32 inch monitor mount, 2 monitors with robust construction, ergonomic height-adjustable monitor mount, tilt ±85° swivel, 180° rotation, 360° weight, max. 8 kg, VESA 75/100 mm https://www.amazon.de/dp/B082MLVXRR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_dl_G8YK95YEMS7NY0FFKZC9

glacial nova
tiny viper
vocal brook
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Does anyone know any good wrist rests for the cynosa lite

worldly cedar
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One of mine does it in the freewheel setting because it's really sensitive @eternal plover

ripe prawn
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Echo Show or an Stream Deck?

acoustic trout
vivid ledge
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echo stream deck edition

violet echo
sudden lark
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Is the vpu better than the g303 SE for claw grip

brazen pilot
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hi

spring sable
tiny viper
# spring sable nepal

well I came from Taiwan, the home of PC industry. It's never an issue for me to get anything XD

worldly cedar
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I have no idea how to but a good place to start is a company called IFixIt, they make the tools and videos you need for pretty much every electronic device

tiny viper
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the screws are mostly hidden underneath the glide feets, so also buy aftermarket feet

fallow quartz
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Anyone knows how to fix Unable to Change display mode NVidia error?

tiny viper
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mouse feet replacement from third party companies, becuz u gonna reap off the original one on the mouse now, so u need to buy new set of feets to paste back

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depends on what material u get

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virgin grade ptfe, some use not pure ptfe

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the smoothness level is different

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uhh waht mouse u have?

craggy path
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anyone has the nanofleaf pairing tool lying around on his PC? seems like its not downloadable anymore at the razer homepage

vivid ledge
fluid sparrow
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Does this look decent as a starter build?

vivid ledge
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Tidy and clean. Which gpu?

sand walrus
# fluid sparrow

NZXT H510
NZXT Kraken X53 (Or probably X6 Series 280mm)
ASRock Z390 PRO4
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX660 UD2 OC D5 2GB WINDFORCE 2X

ye very clean build

fluid sparrow
vivid ledge
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Modest enough for some gaming. Might wanna consider a GPU upgrade for a 'starter' class build in 2022

fluid sparrow
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I’m planning to get a 3070 asus strix rog gpu in a year or so for a replacement

vivid ledge
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That'll be a hell of an upgrade lol

fluid sparrow
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Amazon is selling one for 700$ which isn’t bad

cursive saffron
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ryzer is the best

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razer is the best

past frigate
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nice

acoustic trout
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My weak threadripper vs an amd k6

sonic laurel
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Help, I've been battling to decide whether to get huntsman v2 or blackwidow v3 pro

sonic laurel
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Are there any differences between the V2 analog and V2 other than the 4 analog buttons?

vivid ledge
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whole board is analog

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regular v2 has sound dampening foam, v2 mini analog as well

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regular v2 analog does not

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blackwidow also doesn't have foam and uses more traditional switches vs optical switches

tiny viper
tiny viper
sonic laurel
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I'm a programmer that plays games

vivid ledge
sonic laurel
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I thought it was meant to be quiet

vivid ledge
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only the 100% version

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the other huntsman v2's do

sonic laurel
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What about build quality?

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Are they identical?

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Cause I'm not sure if I want analog

vivid ledge
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more or less yeah

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analog is for like

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if you want to use the keyboard for double-mapping controls in games or using the keys for movement like a gamepad

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regular huntsman's have the selling point of having that snappy key press because it's optical

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from experience using huntsmans they're extremely sensitive to key pressing

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takes a while to get used to

sonic laurel
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Is it bad for typing?

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I do type a lot

vivid ledge
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I would say, it can be a little bit bothersome yeah

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Idk if you can adjust the actuation point on the regular v2 though

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if you can then it can be fixed so it's not a problem

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on the analog you can tho

sonic laurel
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I usually just type all the way in though so it wouldn't bother me too much

vivid ledge
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oh no I'm talking about like, brushing a key by mistake

sonic laurel
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So as a programmer and part time gamer, RTS like Starcraft, AoE4, etc, and MOBA like LoL, sometimes Apex which would you recommend me get?

vivid ledge
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honestly? Razer's keyboards are quite noisy and I wouldn't suggest

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but if you really want one, the analog has the extreme personalisation

sonic laurel
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What keyboard would you highly recommend then?

vivid ledge
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I'm not really a keyboard fanatic so I don't know all the good ones, frnkie who was just here before would have a better idea

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brands like keychron and GMMK are supposed to be better for a keyboard experience, and I would take that seriously if you do programming for a living

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especially given the price of a razer board, you could probably get a better typing experience

sonic laurel
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@tiny viper Do you have any recommendations? I work as a programmer for living and part time gamer for fun

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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it does?

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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maybe the newer ones have foam?

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like they've done a production change or smth

sonic laurel
tiny viper
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possible? they always make slight changes or upgrade after release

vivid ledge
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yeah I could believe that

tiny viper
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like i rmb RVU released and ppl said buttons felt mushy, then the next production they changed it

sonic laurel
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Yeah, but if razer products are really not that worth it then I'm open for other suggestions

vivid ledge
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ye they did that with the viper mini, changed the switches twice

sonic laurel
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I just like consistency since I have Razer death adder v2 pro and I love it

vivid ledge
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some razer products are really good

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but some are, well, LUL

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DA is one of those good ones

tiny viper
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Blackwidow V3 pro with orange switches is arguably the best typing purpose from razer

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wait

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v3 pro doesnt have orange nvm

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only green and yellow option right?

vivid ledge
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blackwidow lite and pro type have orange

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oh wait

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included o rings

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maybe foam??

tiny viper
sonic laurel
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I don't really need quiet space

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Since I work from home

tiny viper
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Razer Yellow switches isnt recommended for ultra long typing, 1.2mm actuation is really fast and can cause some typo. Same for the razer red optical 1mm actuation

sonic laurel
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So v3 pro then?

tiny viper
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V3 pro green switches is a good option. Alpha also mentioned pro type

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Pro type was designed for typist, only white option and no fancy rgb but have the orange switches option

sonic laurel
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I like my fancy RGB 😞

vivid ledge
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you could prolly also just buy foam and mod one if you need it quieter

sonic laurel
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What are the pro type models you recommend?

tiny viper
tiny viper
sonic laurel
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Sounds is no issue for me, since I wear headset and don't hear the sounds anyway (?)

tiny viper
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Yep it just always a factor to consider maybe ur friends ur wife beside u etc

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but if that is no issue, razer green switches can work too

vivid ledge
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I wonder if it's worth going to a pc shop to test the different types

tiny viper
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however if price is really no issue, obviously the ultimate keyboard can go up to 400$ 500$

sonic laurel
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Sadly non of the razer retailer where I live display them

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Only in boxes

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Yeah price is really no issues

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I just want a pretty and also good keyboard

vivid ledge
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because we can suggest x y or z but we don't know specifically the kind of key you like from razer

tiny viper
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then maybe look outside of razer? razer gives u pretty rgb but not any cool looking

sonic laurel
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I'm honestly good with pretty much any keys

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I never could spot the differences anyway

tiny viper
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do u have a current keeb u typing on?

sonic laurel
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People only compare sounds but sounds are not issues for me

tiny viper
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as a comparison

sonic laurel
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Blackwidow elite

vivid ledge
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which switch?

sonic laurel
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Idk but it has clicky sounds

tiny viper
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from elite to v3 pro that doesnt change much lol

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mostly the same

sonic laurel
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Well my elite broke so it needs to be changed lol

tiny viper
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lets see, probably best to go big or just go home XD

sonic laurel
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Yeah

vivid ledge
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mini's are off the table cos programming I bet

sonic laurel
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Yeah I like my numpads

tiny viper
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there are actual keyboard manufacturers only

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DropCtrl

vivid ledge
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then you can use open rgb or signal rgb probably to then unify the razer stuff with the keyboard

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then the pc bloat stays down

sonic laurel
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DropCtrl doesn't have numpads?

tiny viper
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DAS keyboards are great too

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oh wait yes that is tkl oops

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fullsize is called DropShift

sonic laurel
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So what's the differences between bw elite and bw v3 pro

tiny viper
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drop shift available in 3 different tactile switches, all are great

vivid ledge
tiny viper
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all gonna have better typing feel ngl

tiny viper
sonic laurel
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Wait my current keyboard also have the same media control buttons

tiny viper
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if im a programmer i would not opt for a razer as my main

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i got razer v3 mini just for gaming, i never type on it

sonic laurel
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Ah I see

vivid ledge
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drop keyboard has thiccer rgb

tiny viper
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no lies

sonic laurel
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Wrist rest included?

vivid ledge
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you could buy a razer wrist rest and no one would be wiser

tiny viper
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no tho wrist rest not expensive and also choose a better quality custome rest

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like gloriouis and keychorn have the wooden palm rest

tiny viper
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it draws heata quite a lot

vivid ledge
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not the foam ones

tiny viper
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hard rest like the elite keeb?

sonic laurel
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Hard rest stinky

vivid ledge
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i used to have the elite one on the v2, I like the newer ones a fair bit tho

sonic laurel
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What about the one on the huntsman?

tiny viper
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glorious wrist rest

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better than razer plush leather

vivid ledge
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razer has one like that for mice

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lol

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but not keyboards for some reason

tiny viper
sonic laurel
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The wrist rest

empty saffron
sonic laurel
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And damn DropShift doesn't sell in my country

tiny viper
tiny viper
sonic laurel
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Vietnam

tiny viper
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oh then buy from Taiwan :0

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Taiwan has everything

sonic laurel
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My keyboard is actually broke so I need replacement asap

tiny viper
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ohoh lmao

empty saffron
tiny viper
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how about DAS?

sonic laurel
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Let me look up

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Nope :(

tiny viper
tiny viper
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if u trust

sonic laurel
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Need it today for work, deadline crunches

tiny viper
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oh shothost

sonic laurel
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😩

tiny viper
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well then those fancy better build are harder to find, those need time to plan and purchase to shift buddy

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only brands like razer or logitech all over the place u can get

sonic laurel
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So at this moment, price still no matter, what keyboard should I get

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Planning to use long term too

tiny viper
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best razer to get is the V3 pro with green switches

sonic laurel
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Gotcha

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Thanks <3

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What about headset

tiny viper
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also in urgent need?

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listen to music more or need precise footstep low fq bass gaming sound?

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
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that username kek

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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jar jar studios

tiny viper
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vietnam should have too

vivid ledge
tiny viper
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check if u can grab a g915. If yes then we will compare it to v3 pro

vivid ledge
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for games you have the sennheiser pc38x

sonic laurel
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Price is still no issue btw

tiny viper
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ok

vivid ledge
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sony's are nice

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but I switched back to senn's recently and I'm not going back LUL

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my old psp headphones were phenomenal

tiny viper
sonic laurel
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Yeah checking

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Nope not available

tiny viper
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put meme in general chat plz go away

vivid ledge
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weewoo do you have a catalog of a nearby store

tiny viper
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oh well that is possibly the best logitech keeb now

vivid ledge
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or a website

tiny viper
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can I search english? does the website recognize it

sonic laurel
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They are all in Vietnamese though

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Yeah

vivid ledge
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google translate to the rescue

sonic laurel
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I think

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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translate only worked on one website PANIK

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k70 is there

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for features it'd be flexing it's chops

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that elgato compatibility

tiny viper
# vivid ledge

u considering this one? v3 pro is razer the best really

vivid ledge
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it's the only one I found

sonic laurel
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Oh I'm also interested in wireless

vivid ledge
sonic laurel
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Forgot to mention that

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Like wireless is not the deciding factor but it's good to have

tiny viper
# vivid ledge k70 is there

that is solid mid range from corsair and again don't get linear switches, i believe it is available in MX blue clicky

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the best from corsair rn is K95 plat xt with cherry mx brown, best for typing

vivid ledge
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i found keyboards on the other site

tiny viper
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not having g915 to compare is such a shame, a revolution design

vivid ledge
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you've got akko on the other site

tiny viper
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v3 pro battery lasts no more than 200hrs, g915 lasts 1000hrs = using 10hrs/day 3 months no charging

vivid ledge
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which switches are good from akko?

tiny viper
sonic laurel
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I'm looking to buy the best since price is no issues

tiny viper
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but ur in urgent

vivid ledge
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only blue pink or orange

tiny viper
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and if we just keep on comparing, u will never get one 😂

sonic laurel
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Besides I like wireless but since I sit at my desk for most of the time so battery life isn't so much of an issue

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Lol

vivid ledge
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this second site has way more options

sonic laurel
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So in summary:
I like fancy
I like nice feels when typing, playing games
Wireless would be a bonus
Must have numpads

vivid ledge
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found it

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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lots of akko blue keebs

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also this one

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full analog there too

tiny viper
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price no issue then ill go big v3 pro imo just better to type

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optical switches feel off for long time

sonic laurel
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Clickity clickity your silence is my property

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Alright v3 pro it is

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Thanks guys ❤️

sonic laurel
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Also reviews on this?

tiny viper
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no more comparison 😂 ? XD

vivid ledge
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there's two gpus and 8 ram sticks in that pic, that's threadripper or intel hedt

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5950x only can use 4 sticks of ram

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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that's also fairly overpriced

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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you buy something like that for full video editing, streaming or rendering

tiny viper
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how much covert that to usd lol

sonic laurel
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Games: Starcraft 2, Apex, any COD, Battlefield games, Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, VR games
Work: Programming, 3D modelling and art stuff, mostly programming

vivid ledge
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6400

vivid ledge
tiny viper
vivid ledge
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you also need to factor monitor costs

sonic laurel
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Also techstuff usually 1.5 to 3 times the price of global market

vivid ledge
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1.5 sounds right

sonic laurel
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My country is just like thatt

tiny viper
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I can get a 5900x with rtx3070 under 3000$

vivid ledge
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I believe that, south asia in general is like that

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but that is way overkill for your needs

tiny viper
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thanks god i came from taiwan, was never an issue for me

vivid ledge
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it's not a bad choice of parts tbh tho

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bar the case being kek

tiny viper
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are rog cases good for cooling tho?

vivid ledge
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nope, the g.skill sticks are also a meme

tiny viper
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wheres decription on cooling?

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AIO?

vivid ledge
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they're good 3600 sticks tho

vivid ledge
sonic laurel
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Anyone got a good sett?

vivid ledge
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asetek 360 mm

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weewoo

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I would suggest for you

tiny viper
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defo overkill and overpriced

vivid ledge
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something like a 12600K and 3070 max

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
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lemme divy up a quick spec sheet

tiny viper
vivid ledge
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3050 is for light games lol

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would suggest amd if we go a bit budget

tiny viper
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well idk how much of the graphics render he needs

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yea true 3070 is usually in stock and price good

vivid ledge
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3070 is significant enough

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like, 3080 is going overkill these days

tiny viper
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find 3070 Ti?

sonic laurel
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Planning to use this PC for the next 3 to 5 years

vivid ledge
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unfortunately

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actually no

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gddr6x tbf

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I'll give you that, in this scenario it helps

sonic laurel
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I don't want to OC since it sounds like something a failed electrical course student should do

vivid ledge
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it's free performance

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like 10% if it works out ideal

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I would call this on the edge of overkill for what you need it for

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3080/6800/6800XT and higher is for like 4K gaming

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3090 is for production, server implementations and high quality rendering stuff

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but the dollar for dollar return, especially since next-gen is coming this year, makes it extremely not worth it

sonic laurel
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What about higher refresh rate stuff

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So I shouldn't build a new PC now?

vivid ledge
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how much higher refresh rate lol

vivid ledge
sonic laurel
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Idk, I've only ever used 60

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Never tried higher so wanted to try higher

vivid ledge
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if you are considering a 3090, a 4090 or 7950XT are really close

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ok lemme give some perspective then

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3070Ti is like 60% of a 3090

sonic laurel
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My current PC keeps giving bluescreen so it's annoying

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Asked around and some said driver but I tried their fix but still happens

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So assumed hardware

vivid ledge
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a 1650 delivers a 60fps experience normally

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a 3070Ti is like, 2-3x faster than a 1650

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so you'll be very comfortable already with mid-range

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well, this case it's mid-high range

vivid ledge
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what kind of blue screen

sonic laurel
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Different stuff everytime

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Wdym?

vivid ledge
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they all say different stuff

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but they can give an idea of what the problem is

sonic laurel
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If I leave it on idle for long enough, it will crash lol

vivid ledge
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hard crash?

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or blue screen

sonic laurel
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Yeah

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Both

vivid ledge
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hm

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that's either a bios, psu or ram issue I think

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ever download hwinfo64?

sonic laurel
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Nope

vivid ledge
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there's a section at the bottom of it, that tells you if you are having ram errors

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you should test your ram

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ah wait

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TM5 not available because russian website

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rip

sonic laurel
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Anything wrong with it?

vivid ledge
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can see you're in CSM mode I think

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XMP isn't enabled so the bios has reset

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so that tells me there's a good chance the ram might be faulty

sonic laurel
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So if I just replace the Ram it should be good?

vivid ledge
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go here

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click download on the top right

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latest stable

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when you open it click this

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set up like this

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set your thread count to 12

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and let it run

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if it immediately crashes/throws errors/blue screen, then yes, good chance you need new ram

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if it does the whole thing fine, it's probably something else

sonic laurel
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So let it runs for full hour?

vivid ledge
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ye

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see if it finds anything

lunar quest
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hello

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Stress test can impose unnatural situations that are far more stressful than even the most AAA game

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so if you are overclocking or anything i would turn off your overclocks

vivid ledge
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he's not overclocking

sonic laurel
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I'm not overclocking

lunar quest
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my Ryzen never hits over 60 C in gaming

vivid ledge
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this is checking for ram faults

lunar quest
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with stress testing it will hit over 90 C

vivid ledge
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this also isn't stressing the cpu lol

lunar quest
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it said its a full stress test on the link

vivid ledge
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it also said stability testing

lunar quest
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for web servers?

vivid ledge
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which is how we'll know if the ram is bad or if it's something else

lunar quest
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I been using MemTest for memory errors for like 20 years

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Memtest 86

vivid ledge
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86 doesn't do full error coverage

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you can use 86 for windows post stability but not for full stability, OCCT is more reliable in that case

lunar quest
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[2022-04-24] A new website along with the first beta of the open-source Memtest86+ V6.00 (supporting UEFI, 64-bits, SMP up to 256 Cores, DDR5 & more) is planned for April. Developers can access the work-in-progress source code on github.

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I havnt had to run any stress testing software lately

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I haven't seen a blue screen in a long time

vivid ledge
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@sonic laurel has it found anything yet?

lunar quest
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I wish blizzard didn't suck and not allow 32:9 support. 😐

sonic laurel
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Not yet, I'm trying to find the components of your buiild from my local store lol

vivid ledge
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all good

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stop the test then start this one

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we'll try 10 minutes again

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make sure you copy those settings

lunar quest
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I hope he has good cooling

vivid ledge
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cpu's self manage, it's fine

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it's only 10 minutes lol

lunar quest
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if your CPU is throttling then there is no point to the stress test tho

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it wont reach the correct temps

vivid ledge
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no you're missing the point completely this isn't for overclocking

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we are stressing the IMC

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trying to see what part of their PC is causing hard shutdowns and BSODs

lunar quest
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its usually easier to just run 1 stick of ram at a time because if you run a game on that bad stick by it self it will crash almost immediately

vivid ledge
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could it be the CPU? there's no way to know yet, a chronology needs to be followed to troubleshoot properly

sonic laurel
#

No warranty thoughh

vivid ledge
lunar quest
#

the biggest problem with the 3070 is that they handicapped the Tensor cores

vivid ledge
#

second link is better

sonic laurel
#

I get more BSOD more often when I leave PC idle

#

My PC actually runs fine with a game running

vivid ledge
#

that implies it's idle voltage probably

#

but that's only if the ram is fine

sonic laurel
#

I get BSOD when programming though

vivid ledge
#

so an LLC problem maybe

#

gaming x trio you can bios flash to be as good as the suprim

#

so the second gpu is better there

vivid ledge
#

nah the second one is cheaper

sonic laurel
#

Alriightt

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It says needed power supply is already at 750

vivid ledge
#

ya

sonic laurel
#

Should I still get 850 one?

vivid ledge
#

I picked an 850 yea

#

for future proofing

sonic laurel
#

I will have 3 monitors

#

If that's something

#

Idk

#

Keyboard mouse stuff?

vivid ledge
#

you play triple screen?

lunar quest
#

the RTX 3080 has like 100 more Tensor Cores than the 3070.

sonic laurel
#

Well 2 now but the idea of 3 sounds fun

lunar quest
#

in the future of Ai enhancements it will make a bigger difference

vivid ledge
#

3 you could do 1080p on a 3080ti

sonic laurel
#

So I should stick with 2

vivid ledge
#

depends on if you're ok with that tbh

sonic laurel
#

What can I get out of this with 2 monitors?

#

Wanted to have nice quality when gaming and movies

vivid ledge
#

what refresh rate are the 2 monitors?

lunar quest
#

850 power supply wont run anything in the future

#

the new 4000 series cards will require 1200+ watts

sonic laurel
#

Well I've always wanted to try 144 or something like that

wet bronze
#

Those It make sense to buy a sixth monitor?

sonic laurel
#

For my main monitor

#

The 2nd one mostly for reading so it doesn't matter

vivid ledge
lunar quest
#

yeah but I will never buy an AMD graphics cards

lunar quest
#

AMD is terrible at making drivers

wet bronze
#

CPU from amd maybe but a gpu I would never. I love GeForce experience to much

lunar quest
#

and their entire GPU experience is a headache everytime

vivid ledge
#

so I would say just use them as secondaries

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3x1080p @ 60fps for single player games you could do fine though (if that's a thought)

lunar quest
#

I could buy a 3090 Ti but whats the point when there isnt any good games being made in the last few years.... 😐

sonic laurel
#

Oh I only play on 1 screen, the others are for youtube and reading basicially

wet bronze
#

I use 5 monitors 1. for disxord 2. Spotify 3. work 4. work 5. gaming usually

vivid ledge
lunar quest
#

I still play Overwatch

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and that would run fine on my old GTX 1070

sonic laurel
#

So what about the PSU?

vivid ledge
#

850W is fine

sonic laurel
#

What if I slap more RGB lighting stuff to my PC?

vivid ledge
#

considering the 12600K power draw I think it's a better idea anyway for 850

sonic laurel
#

Like screens backlight or razer stuff

vivid ledge
#

it'll be fine

sonic laurel
#

Noice, alright

vivid ledge
#

you could stick a couple hundred leds in there and it'll still be fine as long as you aren't overloading the motherboard plugs

lunar quest
#

When it comes to cooling

#

Custom Loop is the only way to go

#

but you will easily spend $500-800 on a proper custom loop

vivid ledge
#

the MPG would be generally better but let me double check

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wouldn't suggest either tho personally

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actually no

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I'm wrong

#

VSFX

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that's a good one

lunar quest
#

Platinum rated PSU will have better components and longer life span

vivid ledge
#

actually both are good I found the MPG one too

#

that's surprising I didn't know MSI made decent power supplies I usually only look at a handful of brands

#

MPG will be better then overall @sonic laurel

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sorry I'm chopping and changing lol

sonic laurel
#

MPG ti isi

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Should Ii stop the test

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it's 18 miin

vivid ledge
#

ye by now it's fine, any errors?

sonic laurel
#

Nope

vivid ledge
#

ok

vivid ledge
#

ok you want to go to bios next

lunar quest
#

oh

vivid ledge
#

and find CPU 'load line calibration' and also SoC voltage

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since you're on a gigabyte bios, set LLC to 'normal' and SoC voltage to 1.05V

lunar quest
#

I would go into your BIOS and change your Idle power states and C Slates

vivid ledge
#

no

lunar quest
#

usually that can cause blue screens

vivid ledge
#

you lose performance

sonic laurel
#

How to do that?

lunar quest
#

when your computer goes to sleep

vivid ledge
#

start with the other stuff

lunar quest
#

changing your Idle power states will not make you lose performance

vivid ledge
lunar quest
#

it will actually increase your performance because it wont use idle power states to sleep but ok 😐

sonic laurel
#

Oh let me finish picking ouut all tthe parts frist

vivid ledge
#

then navigate to troubleshooting- then 'change uefi settings' or whatever it's called

#

that's the simple man's method

lunar quest
#

C-Slates change your power states when downclocking your processor and can result in crashing when waking up the PC

vivid ledge
#

if your keyboard and/or mouse doesn't work there that's because it's razer and razer doing razer things

vivid ledge
#

which means single thread loss

lunar quest
#

I dont run any single threaded apps

vivid ledge
#

you play games?

lunar quest
#

yes but I set my processor to 5000 mhz manually

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it never changes

#

i run all 16 cores at 5000 mhz locked

vivid ledge
#

lol

#

so you're overvolting your ryzen chip

lunar quest
#

I have a custom loop that can probably handle 500 watt TDP

vivid ledge
#

inb4 current death

#

that is legitimate ryzen zen 2/3 degradation

sonic laurel
#

Doesn't have tthe case you gave me here

vivid ledge
#

that's ok

#

there's a ton of other options

#

try finding the silverstone fara r1

lunar quest
#

Processor are designed to last over 10 years if my CPU died after 5 years I still wouldnt be the owner of it so I could care less 😄

#

its like my car, I run it as hard as I want because I know I'll never own a vehicle more than 3 years and its the next guys issue

vivid ledge
#

manual OC chucks all that out

lunar quest
#

I've never had a CPU burn up and i've ran them overclocked 24/7 for years on end

vivid ledge
#

lol

lunar quest
#

usually 30-40% OC's

#

and never had one give out yet

vivid ledge
#

you're running clearly a 1.4V-ish OC on a 16 core zen

lunar quest
#

1.35

vivid ledge
#

there you go I'm not far off

sonic laurel
#

Silverstoneo ffara noto tavailable

vivid ledge
#

guaranteed degradation

lunar quest
#

havnt had any issues yet but its only about 8 months old

#

its due for a cleaning though

vivid ledge
sonic laurel
#

I like the cosmos

#

Looks fancy

vivid ledge
#

cosmos? show me

#

👀

lunar quest
#

blah

vivid ledge
#

oh that one

lunar quest
#

I have to go to my shitty job soon

vivid ledge
#

super expensive my guy

sonic laurel
#

Hey it looks cool

vivid ledge
#

C700M is high end price for not high-end performance

sonic laurel
#

Oh

lunar quest
#

I like Corsair Power supplies

sonic laurel
#

Is there any highend performance but still looks cool?

lunar quest
#

they are high quality

vivid ledge
#

anything ATX with a mesh front will be fine here

#

but run it by me because there are occasional ones that don't have support for the cpu cooler

sonic laurel
#

Mesh fronts usually not cool looking 😦

lunar quest
#

thats a good budget model

vivid ledge
#

how about this one?

#

you get glass but also a side intake

#

so mesh performance but glass

#

you'll want extra for fans though

sonic laurel
#

If you see thiis, iit's not iin stocck

#

I can try from other sources

kindred obsidian
#

Unpopular opinion, RGB gives me better frames

lunar quest
#

I dont know im in the USA we just Amazon for everything 😄

vivid ledge
kindred obsidian
#

More rgb equals better performance

sonic laurel
#

Have to have something in this

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

ok

#

the 4000d is in stock?

sonic laurel
#

Yeah

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Not in stock

vivid ledge
#

oh ok, I'm still looking though but we got something that works lol

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ok

#

look up Asus Strix Z690 DDR4

#

lots of lian li o11 parodies on here

lunar quest
#

I bought the Asus Crossair Dark Hero VIII on Ebay for $100

#

and they said it was broken

sonic laurel
lunar quest
#

and I hooked it up and I couldnt get it do anything

vivid ledge
#

z690i is for tiny PC'

lunar quest
#

and then I searched the ASUS form and some guy said if you connect Display Port it wont boot the first boot so I changed it to HDMI and it booted right up

vivid ledge
#

z690 is full size

lunar quest
#

so I got a $400 motherboard for $100

#

and it was brand new with everything in the box

vivid ledge
#

nice

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

this one

lunar quest
#

I literally would have never guessed that using Display Port would stop the computer from booting

sonic laurel
#

Not in stock lol

vivid ledge
#

damn lol

#

try

#

gigabyte aorus ddr4

#

aorus elite

sonic laurel
#

I like MSI

vivid ledge
#

we could do msi tomahawk

#

that's fine

#

I'm going by board quality

#

msi tomahawk ddr4

#

z690

sonic laurel
#

Iff tthe giigabytet isi bttter then itt couold work

#

Excuse my typing

#

Keyboard broke

vivid ledge
#

all good

#

msi has synapse integration so I get it if you want it lol

#

including when you are looking at an MSI GPU

#

it'll tie everything together

sonic laurel
#

Yes yes

lunar quest
#

I always like gigabyte

#

I hate ASUS but I bought one because it was only $100 lol

#

Gigabyte have gotten very expensive though

#

especially if you want bluetooth and WIFI built on

vivid ledge
#

b550 gigabyte is terribly cheap though

#

top tier amd board for $130 US is amazing

lunar quest
#

thats because B550 is considered obsolete when it launched

#

even though it wasnt much different

vivid ledge
#

what?

lunar quest
#

but you dont get as many PCI lanes

vivid ledge
#

you don't need as many lanes lmao

lunar quest
#

depends on what your doing

vivid ledge
#

nah not z590

#

needs to be z690

#

otherwise we need to change cpu

#

ok the z series boards aren't working

lunar quest
#

but when people was doing Dual GPU's PCI lanes was very important

#

and im sure Dual GPU will make a come back again

lunar quest
#

nah

#

its just on vacation

vivid ledge
#

mcm is the future

lunar quest
#

trust me it will be back

#

stack em and bridge em

vivid ledge
#

@sonic laurel try b660 MSI mag tomahawk

lunar quest
#

we will always bridge them together because it instantly has the potential to double the performance a generation ahead of its time 😄

vivid ledge
#

we will change cpu to 12500

sonic laurel
#

But I like big strong CPU

vivid ledge
#

if there's none of the ddr4 z690's it's not worth it

#

unfortunately

lunar quest
#

is AMD releasing a processor to Slay the new intel?

sonic laurel
#

I'm asking another source right now

vivid ledge
#

ok

lunar quest
#

I haven't kept up to date

#

but I know the new Intel smashed the numbers and took the crown again

#

I wish I would have waited 😄

#

I prefer Intel

sonic laurel
#

Nope all outt

vivid ledge
#

rip

lunar quest
#

not enough to sell the stuff I have though

vivid ledge
#

ok we should swap to 12500 or 12600

lunar quest
#

it works good

vivid ledge
#

and go b660

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

technically you aren't losing anything

lunar quest
#

my Ebay broken down motherboard chugs like a champ 😄

sonic laurel
#

Losing 100 worth of numbers

lunar quest
#

i mean

lunar quest
#

he lost 2 cores

#

😄

#

he lost something

#

in 4K editing that could be a life time

#

in gaming that could be nothing

vivid ledge
#

not really any point to buying a K sku if you don't use a z series board

vivid ledge
sonic laurel
#

Games: Starcraft 2, Apex, any COD, Battlefield games, Star Citizen, Elite Dangerous, VR games
Work: Programming, 3D modelling and art stuff, mostly programming

#

^ My use

vivid ledge
#

we could go 12700 instead and b660

#

but to me 12600K was already overkill

lunar quest
#

12600 is only $278?

#

they are giving them away 😄

sonic laurel
#

12700 go

vivid ledge
#

you really don't need it but if you really want LUL

lunar quest
#

$385

vivid ledge
#

not 12700K

#

12700

lunar quest
#

the motherboards are more expensive than the processors lol

sonic laurel
#

Fine, we can go 12500

lunar quest
#

i only buy K chips....

#

K chips are unlocked

vivid ledge
sonic laurel
#

There's litierally only 1 and it's oouott off stock

vivid ledge
lunar quest
#

yeah because the day i trust AMD software is the day I buy a Vega 😄

vivid ledge
lunar quest
#

when my AMD fries it self i'll buy Intel

sonic laurel
#

Thatt's what we're having

lunar quest
#

but i doubt it will happen anytime soon

vivid ledge
#

12600

lunar quest
#

you want the K chip

vivid ledge
#

confusing I know LUL

sonic laurel
lunar quest
#

its unlocked 😄

vivid ledge
#

rip

#

no non-k

#

ok

#

12700

lunar quest
#

+K chip tho 4 real

#

:X

vivid ledge
#

they can't use a K chip all that extra money is wasted lol

sonic laurel
lunar quest
#

why cant they use a better chip

sonic laurel
#

What's K chip?

vivid ledge
#

because they can't actually OC it

#

you need Z690

#

there is no z690

sonic laurel
#

No OC plz, thanks

lunar quest
#

ok

vivid ledge
#

well then no K chips

lunar quest
#

lol

vivid ledge
#

easy enough lol

#

try 12400

#

or 12400f

#

if this doesn't turn up? we will change to 11th gen

sonic laurel
#

It's here

vivid ledge
#

ok awesome

sonic laurel
#

But are they enough tto play at highes tqualitty?

vivid ledge
#

oh yeah easy

#

at 1440p? you won't notice the difference

sonic laurel
#

At 192389102 FPS and 144HZ?

vivid ledge
#

ya

#

lol

sonic laurel
#

Oh nice

vivid ledge
#

triple 1080p? no problem

#

be perfectly fine

sonic laurel
#

This one tthen

vivid ledge
#

ye

sonic laurel
#

What's CPU uusually ffor?

vivid ledge
#

👍

#

cpu matters a bit for your programming

#

but 12th gen is really good

#

you get the best dollar for dollar value out of it right now

#

for games, you want single thread performance

#

12th gen intel does an amazing job of that, even when not overclocked

sonic laurel
#

Final build?

vivid ledge
#

change the ram

sonic laurel
#

Couldn't find yours

vivid ledge
#

oh really?

#

hang on lemme look

sonic laurel
#

Yeah

vivid ledge
#

g.skill is alright but I think I can find better

sonic laurel
#

Noice

vivid ledge
#

oh wow the selection isn't great

#

I think that RAM is CJR/MFR iirc

#

which is decent

#

the ones I suggested were micron which would've been better later if you finally decided to OC but those G.Skills are probably the best of the lot there

#

yeah go with those

sonic laurel
#

Noice

#

PC crashed

#

:(

vivid ledge
#

lol

sonic laurel
#

Need new PC asap lol

sonic laurel
#

How to do that again?

vivid ledge
#

when you turn it on

#

press delete

#

tons of times

#

likely since it's a razer keyboard that won't work though

#

so when you've restarted

#

go to the power in the start menu

sonic laurel
#

Troubleshoot?

vivid ledge
#

shift-click restart

#

troubleshoot yeah

sonic laurel
#

Ok

vivid ledge
#

change uefi settings

sonic laurel
#

What next

vivid ledge
#

it'll take you to BIOS

#

there we can enable XMP

#

which will speed up your pc

#

and make the other changes which may fix your crashing

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

yeah I thought so

#

your CPU-z said 1066mhz ram

#

so the CMOS reset itself

#

click ok

#

go to the advanced tab

sonic laurel
#

There is no advanced tab

vivid ledge
#

then find memory profile (D.O.C.P) and set the first option

#

eh?

#

pic

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

ah damn, this is different to the gigabyte I know

sonic laurel
#

This was default screen

vivid ledge
#

yeah go to advanced frequency settings

#

what's it say there

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

go to extreme memory profile

#

and select it

#

select enable or whatever the first option is

#

then go to advanced cpu settings and what's it say there

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

go to power supply idle control

#

and select I believe it's called, normal idle state

sonic laurel
#

Typical current idle

vivid ledge
#

yea that's it

sonic laurel
#

And low or auto

#

Alright

vivid ledge
#

no typical

#

then go to power on the top right and what's it say there

#

we're looking for Load line calibration and CPU_SoC voltage

sonic laurel
#

Uh

vivid ledge
#

ok not there then

#

try chipset section

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

lel

#

try system tab

lone gorge
#

Hi

sonic laurel
lone gorge
#

What’s wrong

sonic laurel
vivid ledge
#

oh you found it

#

yes yes

sonic laurel
#

Ok what do

vivid ledge
#

dynamic vcore SOC

#

set to 1.05

#

specifically 1.05

#

make double sure you didn't mistype it

lone gorge
#

?

sonic laurel
#

Done

vivid ledge
#

I just checked and it seems this bios doesn't have a loadline calibration section so lets hope we're ok

#

go to bios section

#

scroll to csm support, click and disable it

sonic laurel
#

Alright disabled

vivid ledge
#

then go all the way over to the save and exit tab and save profile

#

then name it anything lol

#

save and reboot

#

this may fix it, if not we will disable c states

sonic laurel
#

Alright done but i g2g for nơ

vivid ledge
#

if disabling c states works then it probably can be fixed

sonic laurel
#

Now*

vivid ledge
#

ok

sonic laurel
#

I'll be back in 2 houes

#

Thanks for the help!

lone gorge
#

Ok

vivid ledge
#

np

lone gorge
#

I did nothing

vivid ledge
#

tag me again if it's working or not later @sonic laurel

lone gorge
#

You know more pc than me

#

@vivid ledge

#

And I used pc for 7yrs

#

Lmao

vivid ledge
lone gorge
#

Lmao sneki snek very cute lmao

devout hedge
#

yees

lone gorge
#

When razer makes a cpu?

vivid ledge
#

my aio would glow

lone gorge
#

Lol

#

I got a blade 17

vivid ledge
#

blade 17's are nice but I do wish they did better thermal solutions

lone gorge
#

I have n o wallet

vivid ledge
#

and batteries

lone gorge
#

And I lost my kidneyyyy

vivid ledge
lone gorge
#

Btw battery for 30 mins

#

On Optimus

#

For me

#

Idk why

#

I have started a company cuz of dell

vivid ledge
#

dell resurgence?

lone gorge
#

No their computer

#

Are crap

vivid ledge
#

#mymobosarenotgreen ?

lone gorge
#

Literally a shitshow

#

And they are so expensive I think I will need to sell my land

vivid ledge
#

they think a 120mm aio is enough for a 5950X like I can't even joystroke

lone gorge
#

To get a aleinware

#

Autocorrect autocorrects when o get stuff right then it doesn’t when I get stuff wrong

vivid ledge
#

it's funny though, their non-alienware stuff is ok-ish on price lol