The Fox Box 2 [Islands, Dedicated, Furry!]

[fiery forge]

so it really depends, again, no real way to 100% optimise so it's always gonna have downsides

so either way the best solution is to manually just freeze shit that isn't being used by the player

keeps the engine light weight ig

[humble acorn]

the game is pretty optimized but again, Fox Box has over 4k entities on it

[fiery forge]

yeah exactly, it doesn't matter even if it's efficent because people will end up leaving shit around regardless of how optimized and at some point you will have to manage it

[humble acorn]

and there are chances that someone just spawned 42069 tires then immediately blew them up so they're super far away

[fiery forge]

that's before you get into client to server communication

[humble acorn]

reminds me of the fact that although LED lights are far more efficient than incandescent. we've ended up using them so much more that the total energy we spend on them has now become greater

[fiery forge]

[humble acorn]

it is funny to me the thought that the more TPS counters we add the more it affects TPS

not alot, but it technically does

i would love to have the ability to see the execution time of wire circuits

[sonic elbow]

i’ll delete my conveyor belt if it benefits the server

[humble acorn]

blender has that for it's various node editors

[fiery forge]

coding is an abusive relationship

[fiery forge]

I doubt it, we just need better action on keeping an eye on people who aren't active on the server

freezing doors and stuff on inactive buildings always helps a bit

but yeah just don't use like a billion entities

[humble acorn]

idk how i feel abt frozen doors on inactive buildings, i like exploring them

[fiery forge]

freeze them open

[sonic elbow]

because the conveyor belt is like made out of 200 entities

[humble acorn]

welcome back A5

[fiery forge]

anyway, I'm about to go off so can a mod got on soon please just incase

tyty

[humble acorn]

blows up the server with my mind

💥

[sonic elbow]

if only there was a mod to stop you

[humble acorn]

for legal reasons thats a joke

[sonic elbow]

too late , feven already sent a killer clown to your house

[humble acorn]

bigender clown introduction be like: hello my pronounces are her/he her/he

you have to imagine her squeaking his nose while saying that

[sonic elbow]

lmao

[fringe grove]

I don't touch anything that isn't a vehicle generally because the game already freezes non vehicles when they're not in use

Unless it's like a motor

Or something always being modified

But freezing stuff like doors should be a waste of time if it's to be believed the game is doing what the devs say it is

And yeah, it harms functionality for what sounds like minimal or no gain

[fringe grove]

The biggest TPS eater I've been able to quantify so far has been players, with like 4 or 5 players on we can hit 50tps but once 15ish are on it's down to 26-30

[sonic elbow]

we need to get rid of the players

[sonic elbow]

@hasty forum thanks for tha starred up chair dawg!

[late yacht]

^

[ruby sail]

Freeze the players

[fiery ledge]

which one of yall deleted the wheels I had parked in my driveway

[fringe grove]

Twere not me

[sonic elbow]

points at theä with my eyes

[fringe grove]

No pointing at people

[fiery ledge]

My truck got flung into kill barrier, and left the wheels behind, so I was going to use those wheels to put on the new one , w,

[sonic elbow]

hu what i wasnt doing anything

[fiery ledge]

not upset btw, i know that whoever deleted didn't know that I planned on using them :3

[autumn carbon]

What is kill barrier?

[fiery ledge]

there's an invisible barrier far below (and above I think?) the baseplate, that deletes any entities that fall through it

[hasty forum]

and also far in each cardinal direction

[fiery forge]

BRO REALLY

I go around cleaning 1 tile entities and hope that for some reason doesn't just randomly accidentally release them and of course you purposefully put them there

places 2 wheels on opposite sides on both the x and y axis

leaves for 4 hours

[fiery ledge]

Oh no that wasn’t the case 😭

[fiery forge]

blows you up with demon core

[fiery ledge]

Those wheels were mine, BUT

[fiery ledge]

I’d explained what happened here

[fiery forge]

yeah well your wheels single handedly made the server go from 60 tps to 44

[fiery ledge]

nuh uh!

[fiery forge]

[fiery ledge]

^

I forgot to leave a note but it’s really no big deal, I’d already replaced the truck (and wheels)

To clarify I didn’t put them there on their own “on purpose”, for whatever reason the truck was flipping around everywhere, and those remaining wheels were the only ones that were frozen, so they didn’t pass through the kill barrier 😭

[sonic elbow]

since thea is our new british overlord thats turning our city british , we should build the london monitor to keep the people in line

[scarlet apex]

fuck man school is exhausting my body hurts so bad

ill be on in a min to do the shit ive gotta do

[flat island]

@fiery forge

[sonic elbow]

https://youtu.be/CCt2xqLMGX0?si=0UUI8yVRVlk4z5eZ this is gonna be us fighting thea in a year

[fiery ledge]

meant to say earlier, but I’d definitely like to help out a little more on the server, if it means lending a hand with moderation ,

I’d like to nominate myself for mod <:3

[flat island]

oh yeah i was gonna admin you and forgot

[fiery ledge]

🫡

[flat island]

Thea, destroying other people's builds is not how you handle a situation like an adult. The builds you just destroyed were by people not even involved in this situation. Please do not come back to my server. I will revert the world and remove your builds.

[sonic elbow]

she left the discord server

[flat island]

You cleared every brick you had access to and hurt people who weren't even involved in the situation.

[fiery ledge]

Would someone mind telling what happened? 🥺

[sonic elbow]

twig and thea were fighting over the road planning she was doing and then she got mad and deleted everything or something didnt pay much attention

[flat island]

There was 3 sections of road being edited. Thea was working on 2 sections and assumed they had the right to continue onto the 3rd section which Twig lived on. Seeing that roads were being rebuilt, Twig cleared the road in front of their house and built a walking path. Thea then began to delete Twig's work instead of telling Twig that "hey I was actually planning on continuing this service road".

So I told them yesterday that Twig had rights over that road because Twig had no way of knowing that Thea was going to continue. Thea had not tried to talk to Twig before deleting their stuff.

Today, I got home from work with a wall of text from them trying to nitpick every time Twig added something to their build. When I told them that Twig has the right to do what they want on a freebuild server they flipped out and cleared the bricks they had Trust to.

I had to revert the world 20 minutes.

Instead of handling the situation like an adult.
I understand from their perspective it's unfair, but you can't just force your way. This is a freebuild server and nobody has control over how you build your stuff.

[fiery ledge]

Man, that’s unfortunate. it sucks that people can’t understand that they can’t always get their way :(

I’m sorry you’ve had to clean up others’ messes, just because simple agreements weren’t made ,,

[granite saffron]

that's nuts

[fringe grove]

I've done a tiny bit of polling around, not major by any means but to me it's seeming the best idea would be roads ambiguous to which side to drive on, and if we did street lights, american ones would probably be the most comprehensible though they could be ignored it's not like we have actual traffic. There's also been some interest in sections of different road types, which we do already kind of have going on

So maybe the previous road style works out better, could maybe be cleaned up a bit though

[fiery ledge]

I wholeheartedly agree to this

[scarlet apex]

@latent latch moved our plate its over there now, weve been doing cleanup so if you could move ur stuff somewhere out of the way thatd be great

[latent latch]

If you moved the plate to there how is my stuff in the way or is it just to clear the spot the plate used to be

Or is it my parts on the plate itself in the way

[scarlet apex]

clear the stuff for new builds

[latent latch]

when fops bops

[autumn carbon]

And unfriended everyone from this server

Including me, despite not even being involved

[sonic elbow]

yeah they got butt hurt bad

[humble acorn]

i mean i hope they're ok

[hasty forum]

I hope so too

[sonic elbow]

yeah and i don’t think she meant to delete the stuff from people that had given her trust , i think she just wanted to delete her own stuff but forgot she could also delete our stuff

[autumn carbon]

Yeah, I once deleted sir tastiers sidewalk by accident when I was editing my car and almost did notice it

[latent latch]

I have started up a construction service Wich will be where I store all of my construction vehicles I make

[autumn carbon]

Can't wait to return home tomorrow and see them :3

[sonic elbow]

where have you been

[autumn carbon]

Vacation at sea, I haven't been here in so long

[sonic elbow]

sweet

[sonic elbow]

i think i put that bird in my microwave before

[late yacht]

same

[late yacht]

birby :3

[formal hollow]

Cute

[mellow flame]

I was reading through the old conversations. Wow, crazy stuff.

Apologies, I thought all the decorative clock parts were frozen. But I think the experiment maybe isn't as precise as that user thought. When unfreezing the elements, the TPS on the server went up for me as I watched the TPS clock, only to level out at what it was previously.

There's probably a lot more to wonky TPS than just stationary physics elements that are unlocked. This is a large server and there's tons of elements interacting with each other beyond phys entities, especially considering the amount of data pumping through this thing at a regular basis.

[fringe grove]

Stationary ones should do almost nothing, biggest TPS destroyer is number of users it seems, second would probably be the number of motors or constantly moving servos, clocks and circuits etc

Wheels there aren't many that are unfrozen at any point, so they probably aren't doing that much unless there's a bug

Sheer number of entities could also have an effect at this point but hard to know without knowing what the code looks like

[vital trail]

I know I should go through my little apartment block and take out most the doors, say for some of the main ones

[flat island]

I can’t imagine stationary doors are that much of a problem? :(

[fringe grove]

If they're not constantly moving, don't think so

[sonic elbow]

is this the sciencebird

[autumn carbon]

sciencekirb

[sonic elbow]

shooting sciencekids bird made my game crash

[humble acorn]

good

[late yacht]

do not the bird

[scarlet apex]

tomfoolery.

[fringe grove]

Sounds like dwarf fortress music

[mellow flame]

idk what it is about these big towers dropping my fps like crazy

but when I look at them it drops my fps to 25 lmao

[scarlet apex]

hylics 2 please play/listen to it its so good i forgot my clips had audio

[scarlet apex]

i think its just the rendering of the city

the thin one has nothing in it and big black is just a cylinder

sorry for uploading another uncut 30s clip but look how my body flies

makes me chuckle

guffaw

giggle

[fringe grove]

What we think is dropping your FPS at this angle is I love you's 1m tile tall tower in the farthest corner of the map

Happens to some people but not others

We haven't done any testing though

[scarlet apex]

loading this map in prefabs v1 turns it into a nightmare (turn audio on)

[late yacht]

in n nut

[formal hollow]

Does it tastes good ?

[scarlet apex]

@wicked prism we wanna make yellow topple onto blue and destroy it, but your ship is in the way, is your ship movable or should we just cut from the middle

[fringe grove]

For reference: it was moved

[austere perch]

@late yacht Did you delete my FEX Graffiti?

Nevermind, you moved it, but still, you didn't have my permission to move it.

[fiery ledge]

Don’t ask me, ask Sarah

[scarlet apex]

i moved it, it was on my building, shouldve left a note, my bad

you didnt ask to put it on my front wall either to be fair

[late yacht]

No no its my fault. They placed it on the area I was drawing in and I don't remember if I was afk at that exact moment they were placing it or not but I had moved it to the front without asking and then you moved it to the other wall
When they placed it I had moved my drawing up so I had more space to draw the lower part and I didnt put a sign up or anything mentioning I was still gonna keep the drawing there so it is my fault sorry 😔

[scarlet apex]

my wifis out for maintenance ill be back in an hour or 2

oh

nvm

[scarlet apex]

lore

[scarlet apex]

i think we crashed

[fiery ledge]

Server machine broke 😔

[scarlet apex]

i guess thats an excuse to play something else for once

[late yacht]

server dead 😔

[ruby sail]

[latent latch]

well my crane is not phys locked due to server being down so dont get mad at me if u see an entirely unphys locked ultra complicated vehicle

[scarlet apex]

back up i think

nvm

it was on the browser momentarily

[latent latch]

if server starts and im not on yet can one of you phys lock the arm of my crane at my place on side of road (if it starts pulling parts twards itself unphys lock it imediately or it will turn into a black hole or something stupid lol

just some way to keep people from driving off with it or blowing it up

(its an unsaved build)

[late yacht]

i think the server genuinely died so the server needs to be started up again by @flat island

[flat island]

Server is in a reboot loop please hold

[2025.08.24-23.01.38:683][141]LogBRWorldManager: Error: Failed to load world: Invalid count for BrickTypeIndices: 304, expected 303
World is damaged and I may need to roll back to last autosave.

What the hell has happened...

[late yacht]

what 😭

[flat island]

Somethings very wrong with the map

Fuck. The world file is corrupted.

I have a backup at about 2 hours ago if needed but ideally I'd like to get ahold of a dev to fix it like they've done for some other worlds.

[late yacht]

😔

[flat island]

Should I recover the world now, losing an hour or two of work, or keep the server offline until I can get help from a developer to uncorrupt the world file?

[late yacht]

make poll

[fiery ledge]

If i'm not mistaken, not TOO much happened in that last hour? rolling back the save shouldn't cause too much damage, right?

[late yacht]

I dunno thats the thing

there were like 20+ people on i think

[flat island]

We can test it if you'd like. I won't lose the corrupted world. It'll just be a different timeline now that I cannot merge

I'll wait for staff assistance.

[flat island]

I'll get it fixed, just annoying.
Absolute worst case scenario I have backups from longer ago. I just don't have a rolling snapshot and the last off-site backup was made with the corrupted world file.

I'm working on modifying the configuration so this shouldn't be an issue anymore. I wasn't aware a corrupted world could not be rolled back with a revision.

• improving logging system so it's all through journalctl

[scarlet apex]

well now im not sure what to do for the rest of the day

whatre yall up to

[flat island]

I was playing terraria with bf :(

[scarlet apex]

well, what else can you even do about the server rn

[late yacht]

real 😔

[flat island]

Setting up the systems to prevent this from happening in the future but that's about it 😔

[flat island]

If I ever setup something in the future and I procrastinate on setting up a rolling backup with snapshots, beat me with a brick

This is the second time this week I've been bitten by not setting this up

[scarlet apex]

my brick is READY!!!!

[humble acorn]

[fringe grove]

Looks like now we all gotta play terraria

[scarlet apex]

i played terraria for 3 years straight and havent touched it since

[fringe grove]

Currently what I'm doing is reconverting a bunch of video files I realized only play the audio in vlc and don't play at all in anything else so

[flat island]

been there

[flat island]

There are tools you can use to only convert the audio and keep the video track to save a ton of time.

ffmpeg should be able to do that.

[fringe grove]

It seems like the video is the problem

[flat island]

Ohh

[fringe grove]

I'm just running it back through h264 (which apparently it already is) and it fixes everything

[flat island]

Lol just re-read yeah

Weird

[scarlet apex]

im bored

[fringe grove]

I will probably also replace plex with jellyfin today, been meaning to do that

[humble acorn]

im using the power of my imagination to pretend im building my tractor on The Fox Box {Furry, Sandbox, Dedicated}

help i just imagined someone placing random engines and bricks everywhere and im not creative enough to give myself admin to clean it up

[fiery ledge]

what's their imaginative username?

[late yacht]

now i cast "spawn 900 bots"

[humble acorn]

7565111922323423(2)

[fringe grove]

Guys you corrupted the server's world file in my imagination now what am I gonna do

[fiery ledge]

/ClearBricks 7565111922323423(2)

👍

[late yacht]

holy shit the second person with the same steam id? its over

[fiery ledge]

MISTER PRESIDENT THERE'S BEEN A SECOND STEAM ID

[late yacht]

clearly we need to open a temp server on someones computer and build random shit to cure boredom

[scarlet apex]

ill do it

my wifis good

[late yacht]

im down

[humble acorn]

the box fox [fury, gravelbox, listen]

[late yacht]

gravelbox 😭

[fringe grove]

Kids, go play in the gravelbox

[humble acorn]

SEND MY BROTHER TO HELL!

[scarlet apex]

should be up

oh i can rename iit

[humble acorn]

im going to join and place 200 engine and wheel joints

[scarlet apex]

okay!

guys hurry up

[humble acorn]

can you see me

[scarlet apex]

no

[humble acorn]

oh

i was hoping if i imagined hard enough you'd see me

[scarlet apex]

aw

[humble acorn]

the crunching noises im hearing are normal right

[scarlet apex]

harder

yes

[humble acorn]

did you set the weather to night time

i cant see anything anymore

uog h noo

[scarlet apex]

hell

[scarlet apex]

yall crashed it

ill make another

[fiery ledge]

"ya'll" ,

[late yacht]

The last thing we all say was twig uploading "The World" 😭

[dense rover]

your server cant handle The World

[humble acorn]

sorry i imagined 2000 rlcbms joining and telling the time at once

[scarlet apex]

we uhhhh did it again

[late yacht]

The miku army matrix took over

[scarlet apex]

crazy ass ss btw

[fiery ledge]

Why can't we just have a normal freebuild while we wait for the Fox Box to come back, TwT

[scarlet apex]

back up

yes

lets be normal

[fiery ledge]

So far so good

[fiery ledge]

did it die again ?

ah

[tepid egret]

ough

[willow vigil]

my favorite part was the rapture
-# people with no context are going to be so confused

[late yacht]

its joever

[flat island]

[sonic elbow]

damn i missed out big time

[rotund brook]

so uh what the (fuck!) happened???

[fringe grove]

Seems like a not-uncommon save bug that corrupts the world

[fiery ledge]

Server file was corrupted, and Feven is trying to get in touch with the devs to repair the file

[fringe grove]

I've seen the same error at least 3 times since being in this server

[rotund brook]

Gosh

[formal hollow]

Wtf How are these names even allowed in the first place..

What are we even allowed and not allowed to, in Brickadia ?

[hasty forum]

@sonic elbow https://youtu.be/H8utnt1tZNk?si=TARCxt0NgWFcmveC&t=610 awesome timestamp

[latent latch]

Server just had to die as my vehicle is not physics locked I hope it's not gone when server fixed because of someone driving it away and losing it or it getting turned into a black hole from physics bugs

That thing ain't saved yet due to lack of save system for that kind of stuff

[flat island]

World file fixed thanks to @remote hearth ! Thank you so much!

[flat island]

WOAH
seeing that thumbnail made me rlly happy omg
thank you @wide skiff for stopping by! :)

[fiery ledge]

I went ahead and got everything frozen for you

[flat island]

Server updated to CL11829!

[sonic elbow]

lol sweet , without your star he would have said ewww and cut out my fnaf from the video

[hasty forum]

[random pasture]

you should consider creating an auto backup script like i have for pinkadia

want the source code for mine?

[flat island]

Just finished mine last night, actually!
I already had an hourly rsync to my NAS but now I’m using borgbackup to take snapshots of the entire server folder every 10 minutes and duplicating this borg repository to the NAS as well every hour.

The problem with the original rsync was it helped with system failures but it only kept the latest copy.

[random pasture]

i have that problem too right now, mostly because of world files taking up more and more space as revisions build up. i have mine set to back up every 6 hours, but it always writes to todays date, so in the end there is one file per day which has the last backup of that day. im using rclone for mine

also, consider giving the devs access to your backup folder! it can help them debug issues with your server, like performance stuff

and with the game in general

[flat island]

They’re welcome to it if they’re interested! I rsync the entire / directory for the hourly backup.

Borg helps keep the snapshot size down since it deduplicates. A few GB and only adds what was changed every snapshot.

[random pasture]

ooooh! now im interested in borg

[flat island]

It’s good. I have it setup via crontab and a shell script.
You can technically get borg to target a remote disk but I haven’t set that up. I’m just dumping it in with the full disk rsync so it has a copy on the network always

Zeblote did have some issue accessing my NAS interface when i first tried sending them files but I may be able to fix that, or invest in cloud backups.

It’s synology, so i could give them an account to use as well.

[random pasture]

im using a nextcloud instance

i dont have a nas...

[ripe lynx]

I would love to have iterative saves locally myself. It's a life saver in creative apps as it were.

[flat island]

The game does it out of the box, there's just currently no UI to access the autosaves.

But autosaves are iterative

[ripe lynx]

Oh sick. Where are they stuffed?

[flat island]

They're built into the file itself. You can use console commands
BR.World.ListRevisions <worldname>

Then you can use BR.World.LoadRevision <worldname> <revision#>
If you want to fork that revision onto its own world (since loading a revision is read-only, you can't save back to the file as far as I know), you can use the normal Save As tool or BR. World.SaveAs <newname>

[ripe lynx]

Nice. Thank you!

[random pasture]

and the workflow is pretty much to load revision, saveas a new world, delete old world file, saveas old world file name

[mortal solstice]

the city is really feeling more like a city now its crazy lol there fly over really shows all the different sections

[hasty forum]

they didn't even have the render distance cranked up to the max, smh

[mortal solstice]

lol still could see the main city with what they had

[latent latch]

Tysm

I didn't think anyone was actually going to do that for me

I swear this game is a utopia with its community and dev team I have never seen one with people this good and passionate

[scarlet apex]

...prefabs v2?

[scarlet apex]

i find most small communities are really sweet, i miss the rain world pre-downpour community.

[latent latch]

we all gotta collectively friend echother

before the game blows up

[sonic elbow]

if you see me out in fox box say hi but if you meet me at the golden cow i’m a talkative guy, maybe we’ll talk over beers and remember the time

[latent latch]

sometime if posible these blue outlines need to go for colision debuging as i have to go miles away to work on a physics build if i need to use the visual thing for colisions

if anyone ever is willing to posibly try to find the source or if a dev can assist

[wicked prism]

you can remove it sorry busy with work

[scarlet apex]

oh we moved it a while ago it was totally fine

its just a bit to the left now

[hasty forum]

it's what happens when weight projections from engines or weight components are placed on the world grid

[willow vigil]

will the rainbow tower end the war of colors

[fiery ledge]

Waffle House will either win the Color Conquest, or inadvertently begin a new war 👁️👁️

[latent latch]

i need this building to have colisions off for a second

my vehicle turned into a neutron star and phased into it

nevermind

altho i nearly permanantly lost my build twice with what i did

and i did end up voiding like 10 wheels off of it

[fiery ledge]

I’d recommend that you go ahead and save your crane, if you haven’t already, this seems like a disaster waiting to happen

[scarlet apex]

when you build it build the parts individually on a plate and save it as a prefab before assembly or youll regret

[formal hollow]

yes, they said they are working on Prefab V2, we just need to wait like a few weeks (can be 2 months some people say)

[latent latch]

I forgot I was going to move my green screen area for my vehicle screenshots but I didn't if anyone is bothered by a massive green wall near their build I'm fine with it being removed if an admin is on

I'm already in bed as I realize this

[random pasture]

thats a good idea

[sonic elbow]

didn’t you guys like my family guy song cover

[scarlet apex]

why is it dead silent rn

is it cuz its tuesday or somethin

[vital trail]

Everybody's locked in

[ripe lynx]

OH, thats what was going on at that moment. lol

[ripe lynx]

We turned the sun off and gave the moon a turn

[ripe lynx]

Big chillin

[flat island]

peak

[austere perch]

I have no clue why

But i'm getting random frame drops when i look this way

Good lord, i think i found the reason

[flat island]

Oh goodness gracious

I will want to investigate this. I've seen worries about huge brick count floors before but want to see for myself to see if they're 100% the cause of these issues. We've removed super complex floors before but I'd rather speak to the creator prior to doing this.

[austere perch]

Maybe we should add a "No overly detailed/complex floors" rule...

[flat island]

What are your specs?
I’ll have to check and see what causes this to happen.

[austere perch]

I dunno the exact specs, but it's a Powerspec G153 that's been upgraded to have 16GB RAM

[flat island]

I gotcha, could maybe be a VRAM issue

[austere perch]

And i'm pretty confident this floor is at least partially to blame since i get half-decent frames when i'm not looking at it, but when i am looking at it, the frames noticably decrease. Not to unplayable levels, but visibly choppy.

[flat island]

Fox Box is pushing the VRAM limit on my 8GB 5700 XT. On my Mac with shared RAM/VRAM it’ll fill up all 24GB. Crashes my Steam Deck on higher settings.

One idea: Entrances to really high detail builds are actually teleporters that TP you to the actual building located at the edge of the world.

So they’re out of render distance.
It would be cool to have a way to cull the inside of buildings if not in them.

I’ll speak to the creator of that build. Since it doesn’t seem immediately obvious how it’s tiled I’d rather not just delete it since it could’ve been a LOT of manual work tiling it if it wasn’t a square tile.

[austere perch]

I'd say it's been an issue enough times to at least warrant a note advising against detailed floors.

[flat island]

Agreed.

Can you DM me the creator of the build? I won’t be on until later tonight as I have work today.

Middle click with the hammer to see the creator.

[austere perch]

Sent.

[flat island]

thanks ya!

[sonic elbow]

this is sick af tho

[autumn carbon]

I'm not sure if that's the reason. Brickardia engine supposed to optimize this to single plane

[fringe grove]

That floor has been there for ages

At least the last 2 weeks

The frame drop you get from your camera facing that direction as far as we know is I love you's 1m brick tall tower in the farthest corner of the map, which for some reason seems to drop some peoples fps but not others

It's just a bunch of 100x100 plates and like entirely empty on the inside, but it must be something about how the game tries to render or optimize the bricks that isn't happy with how large it is

[austere perch]

At the farthest corner of the map? It shouldn't even be rendering in by that logic!

[fringe grove]

If you have render distance on ultra or hyper or whatever it is, you'll see it

Even if there's fog in the way it renders

[austere perch]

Mine is only set to High

[fringe grove]

The day frame drops were first reported was also the first day after that tower was built, and from testing it seems to be the only thing necessary on screen to cause the frame drops, but more testing is always useful I guess

[austere perch]

Well if it supposedly isn't that floor

Then i have no clue

[fringe grove]

The angle from spawn to in n out is roughly the angle towards the corner with the tower

[austere perch]

holy shit the lag gets even worse when looking that way

[fringe grove]

There is technically another very tall wall of plates in the center of that far bound as well, could also be causing some lag maybe

I don't think it'd be that big of a deal to get rid of them, or maybe there's some workaround we could do to like split the tower and try to fix the lag and mask it with an asthetic choice

Someone that has the problem would have to be around to clarify when the problem is gone

[austere perch]

Okay, someone needs to get rid of that damn tower, because my FPS tanks if i so much as glance in its general direction

[fringe grove]

Let's see...

[fringe grove]

Fixed (mostly?)

[ripe lynx]

After some performance investigation, it was decided to delete the micro brick plates that were against the upper limit of the sky. Looking straight up was diminishing performance for several users

Performance has improved heavily as a result

Something is up with micro brick plates causing frame loss when there's a lot being rendered at the same time, regardless of how far you are from it.

[flat island]

Sounds good!
All builds are backed up if anything needs to be restored.

[humble acorn]

oh hey do you have a recent save so i can fix my tractor

i accidentlly grabbed it wrong and it freaked out and half of it got sent to the void

[formal hollow]

lol

[humble acorn]

i just need the trailer as a prefab

[flat island]

Yuh. Do you know how to work with revisions? I can send you the world.
Edit: DM'd

[flat island]

lol, trying to come up with a template for a Discord server logo

Not an artist in the slightest but it's fun

I think with some filters and post-processing it'll look alright?

It is animated too

[sonic elbow]

cuute

[regal pond]

Floors like that 90s looking one can contribute somewhat. It's about the difference of colors. If you lay down a 20,000x20,000 microbrick floor and it's one color, you're rendering a whole 5 polygons.

[flat island]

Wish the debug view worked

[regal pond]

Lights are also a big impact. Showcasting lights, obviously, but just normal lights overlapping in radius cause a huge performance hit.

At the brick count we're at, there's little you can do. People simply have to stop moaning and turn down their settings. I can't run HWRT on this server anymore, haven't been able to for weeks. That's just the way it is.

[flat island]

Yea

At this point I'm hoping future fixes just outpace how fast the city grows lol

[dense rover]

is this how it works? i'd assumed it stores large continuous faces of multiple colors as a texture

[regal pond]

Multiple bricks of the same color can be simplified. If you no-clip inside you'll see that it's just one object. Add colors and it has to render more faces.

[dense rover]

im not sure what you're talking about, putting bricks of different colors together wouldn't magically remove culling done for inside faces

[flat island]

@dense rover The brick limit isn't 20M

[dense rover]

about to paste 30 4k images on fox box!!!

[flat island]

:3

[regal pond]

It does. Noclip inside and look.

[dense rover]

no it doesn't. I dont think you know what you're talking about.
you may be referring to the slanted faces on wedges that don't cull regardless of color.

[regal pond]

You don't have to be so fucking obtuse about it. You can just say "I think that only happens with wedges". That would be pretty important to the discussion considering 90% of the carpet we were talking about has to do with wedges, so the point stands.

[dense rover]

im sorry if I offended you but I was just trying to say your explanation was off

[regal pond]

It felt like a very rude tone.

[scarlet apex]

hey guys

[late yacht]

har

[dense rover]

har har har

[scarlet apex]

sorry i havent been on idk if ive been needed for anything

im not gone forever

moved into a new place

its nice

ill prolly be on within the next 2 weeks, unpacking is a lot

i know nobody was worried ab it but just incase anyone needs anything

[late yacht]

I was worried about it, goober hasnt been on

[scarlet apex]

https://youtu.be/vBYRwVFq6do?si=c4TLmI5DzDhMoNOw

did anyone see that guy came back

this time hes not being so over the top, i appreciate that. i like genuine normal reactions to things

maybe he never was

i dont rember

[late yacht]

yes

[mellow flame]

@dense rover I have a question about your space elevator. Kajakcr showed me how to make an elevator that will go to specified heights, but it does it in discrete steps. Your elevator moves much more smoothly even at higher speeds and I was wondering how you did it.

[dense rover]

the entire elevator is frozen, I use a set position gate to change its height with a cubic easing function

As long as you're standing on a physics object you'll basically teleport along with it if there's nothing in the way

[mellow flame]

@dense rover I rebuilt your cubic easer as a flat thing, but you have 6 bricks that have some sort of constants in them. I'm not sure what they would be. (I failed calculus 3 times btw, math is not my strong suit)

If you have any time a quick math lesson would be appreciated.

[dense rover]

its just two functions that get used depending on if x is < 0.5 or > 0.5

[formal hollow]

oh deer

[ripe lynx]

Deer activities

[vital trail]

End of Evangelion (1997)

[slim trout]

peak

[late yacht]

peak

[slim trout]

it kinda looks like im making out 😭

oh my god

[rotund brook]

I'm CRYING dude

[slim trout]

LMAO

[night rose]

rly

[slim trout]

help

[night rose]

at me

[slim trout]

WHY IS EVERYONE WATCHING

[slim trout]

oh my fucking god

[rotund brook]

damn steam screenshots suck ass

[late yacht]

THIS IS WHAT I DIDNT GET TO SEE WHAT 😭

[night rose]

sigh.... only 40k entities

[night rose]

who up making items higher than the sun

[edgy blade]

what kind of morally dubious activities should kirbco be undertaking

[scarlet apex]

that pear is my wallpaper

[rotund brook]

bootleg building bricks

or have like surveillance drones all over the server with the kirbco logo

[edgy blade]

i like this idea

like green but worse

[mortal solstice]

this sign seems to be freaking out in game

[humble acorn]

you're not done downloading the world

physics objects will be unstable while loading in

[ripe lynx]

[mortal solstice]

gotcha

[tepid egret]

Nah the signs just hungry when its hungry it throws a fit

[rotund brook]

It's going cyberpsycho

[uncut dove]

Hello o/ Im told this is the discord for fox box (no standalone discord for fox box)

[flat island]

Yus

I promise I will setup a standalone discord

[mellow flame]

If you set up a standalone discord can I be a part of it

also @regal pond are your prefabs free use, credit attached, or personal use only

[regal pond]

Very few are mine. They're just random good or useful stuff I've found over the years from many people.

Never had any trouble using them anywhere so I'd assume you're free to use.

It's been a very long time so I would assume anyone who's stuff is included would speak up.

The main section is from Sgt Blocky who did release it as free use, the rest is really just plants and stuff from Snabs.

Just scraped from "prop repository" sections on big servers in the past, like the big IKEA store on Midnight Alley.

When those things were made before Brickadia released, anyone could copy anyone's bricks, so it was a different time.

[vital trail]

@fiery ledge >:c

[ripe lynx]

@late yacht

[edgy blade]

i am quite fond of making little alleyways inbetween buildings

[uncut dove]

ooh, nice touch

[edgy blade]

soon

[fiery ledge]

[manic nest]

[ripe lynx]

Woah, they got the moves

[uncut dove]

nice

[dense rover]

Apparently pasting a half million connected components lags the game a little, weird bug

[flat island]

#1394415450166923477 damn, game doa

[hasty forum]

is that meant to link to a particular thread

[uncut dove]

I don’t think so

[austere perch]

I've cleared my builds. Feven lost a regular because nobody would listen when i said that the colored towers are complete shit that shouldn't exist. I wish it didn't have to end this way.

Tastier, remove your crossings. I want ZERO TRACE of my builds for as long as those damn towers exist

[granite saffron]

[austere perch]

I hate all of you.

@flat island You could've prevented this. But you didn't.

[fiery ledge]

Your failure to accept that people will build freely on a free-build server is your own fault. Don’t try to pin the blame on anyone else.

[granite saffron]

this is frying me bru

i'm not even sure why the towers are being blamed for the FPS drops when they are such stupidly simple builds that definitely don't contribute beyond ostensibly the glass if you have OIT on. but they are far from the main buildings using that

my hardware isn't great, foxbox fries my machine and i basically max out at 50fps at absolute best with it being 20-30 in most areas. here it is at 40+fps while looking at 6 of the ~9 color towers

what is weird is that the main FPS sink is, somewhere underground? near the spawn, looking towards the pyramid

and there are no color towers in this direction

instantly goes back up when i look up away from the ground

[flat island]

....?
Bro I've got a life I'm not going to micromanage what people build man. I don't want you here if you're going to crash out like this, jesus

Holy shit.

[austere perch]

I'm not coming back either way.

[granite saffron]

[flat island]

Thank you, holy shit please self-reflect on how you treat people over a video game.

[fiery ledge]

What I find odd is how (iirc) this guy never accused the towers as being the cause of said frame drops ?
He’s just pissy that “they’re an eyesore, they take up too much space, other builds could use that space” and literally nothing more

[flat island]

I'm just trying to run a server for friends. I have a full-time job, family, and a relationship. Things infinitely more important than micromanaging a server. I'm sorry I can't pander to exactly what you want out of my server but cussing me out in DM's is not appropriate.

[fiery ledge]

Feven, PLEASE let me claim that train station turf, so I can build a Dollar General 🙌

[flat island]

Go for it

[fiery ledge]

Hell yeah, thanks boss

[granite saffron]

^ he did here, or at least one of the color towers were what he suspected to be causing the FPS drops

[flat island]

I'm hopping on.

We got rid of that big orange tower, right? I stopped hearing about issues after that.

[granite saffron]

the other orange corp tower is still there but i don't see it causing problems

unless you meant another one

[fiery ledge]

Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s just him fishing for any reason to complain about them tbh

[granite saffron]

it seems to be something underground, here?

[vital trail]

Put in a Spirit Halloween

[fiery ledge]

HE LEFT THE SERVER

[granite saffron]

dawg

most reasonable protogen interaction

[fiery ledge]

good riddance, jeez.

[vital trail]

I don't understand people who get this bent outta shape over what's being built in a freebuild server...

[flat island]

I'm absolutely dumbfounded right now holy shit.

[vital trail]

if people had that sorta frustration put towards real world issues, we'd get a lot of things done

The whole coloured tower wars was like, the most whimiscal part of this server, because of the ongoing lore behind them

[fiery ledge]

Reasonably so,, real talk. I’m sorry you’re the one who has to deal with the brunt of these outbursts

[vital trail]

It's fun to log in & see what new comeuppances are going down

Yeah same, this shit sucks to have to deal with

[fringe grove]

It could just be the space elevator, we've noticed that very tall buildings (even very few bricks) tend to cause fps drops for some people and not others (maybe depending on settings or drivers?)

[granite saffron]

odd

might be

my only other guess is a grey bus prefab in that area that has like 30 point lights inside lmfao

[flat island]

Huh.
Yeah, I wonder if there’s some debug tools from like… NVIDIA or something that can identify where on screen is causing draw lag

You’d think something like that would exist.

[vital trail]

Timesplitters 2 sesh

[granite saffron]

god that opel is so good

[vital trail]

yeee that's Tevi's ride

[rotund brook]

ty! I'm glad people recognize it lmao

[mellow flame]

god I love these fucking awful towers

I hope we keep building more

i just saw all the stuff from earlier

I will continue to enable and promote people to build freely on this server for life

it is the best server and my favourite, thank you for putting in the effort to host it for us Feven

[mellow flame]

I wonder if it's some of Colt's construction equipment. He's put a lot of effort into making them just like the sets but they're a lot of locked entities.

I really hope it's not that though as they're amazing builds

[granite saffron]

it didn't seeeeeem to be, since it's not like my FPS tanked when i looked at them

but idk

[mellow flame]

was that user the person that went by the in game name "Something" or was it someone else

[fiery ledge]

Ye you got it , it was Something

[mellow flame]

I will continue to build Red HQ 2 in spite of his will to never return

[vital trail]

Dude got banned for good measure, too, so rest assured his ass ain't coming back

[rotund brook]

"this server doesn't deserve my buildings!"

[fiery ledge]

@mellow flame I HAD AN IDEA :
What if we move the Tower Memorial over to where his train station was, as well as add more to it? More models, or maybe make it into a whole museum?

[late yacht]

i think we should fix the road there so it isnt so jank since now the building has been demolished

and then you could do that :3

[late yacht]

I have achieved headstand i may or may have not broken my arms backwards :P

[late yacht]

wtf did I have to do with any of this lmaooo

[hasty forum]

same energy

[ripe lynx]

Who was that guy?

[manic nest]

Wow, that’s wild someone would flip like that?! O_O
Personally, I really enjoy the server no matter how many towers there are xD The builds and people all seem great ^w^

[vital trail]

The whole "Feven lost a regular" is just the whole "you just lost yourself a customer" schpiel we've all heard countless times.

Good.

If this is the type of person they were, I'm glad we don't have to deal with them.

[mellow flame]

I love this idea

[vital trail]

turning his unfinished train station into a fucking memorial for the coloured tower wars is fucking deliciously petty

I'm all for it

[dense rover]

Okay, I need to see this server's manager, these lowly admins are refusing to hold me like a baby and rock me back and forth...

[fiery ledge]

I started a new build in that area, just so it wouldn't remain empty! if you guys wanna actually do a museum, feel free to move the building, preferably close to my cyan tower :3

[dense rover]

you have two unfinished builds, why are you reserving areas

[rancid hazel]

someone is spaming dummys and its lagging the server hard

i didnt get to see the name b4 the server crashed

[uncut dove]

cry.

[uncut dove]

Almost done with world 1-1

been busy irl

warp pipes work good enough

[manic nest]

that looks great :0 where is this hiding? .3.

[rotund brook]

This looks incredible, I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of random pipes and blocks being scattered around the city to teleport there

[fiery ledge]

Holding onto it because of the museum idea,,? If we don’t go through with that, I can leave it there anyway, unless someone wants that spot for something

I’m not sure what my unfinished builds have to do with this <:3

[fringe grove]

I also have unfinished builds but my brain just hasn't come back to them with ideas yet

[ripe lynx]

Flipping the script to put it in my shoes, I've often felt very self-concious about starting new builds before finishing existing ones. In Startdust District for example I'm on my 4th build plot before I even finished the first.

I don't push it onto other people, but I know some folk live by the mindset of "finish what you started." I worry about treading on those peoples' toes.

I'm GREAT at coming up with new ideas and doing loose sketches and blockouts. My follow-through however....

I was in a call last night with an artist friend, and we were doing a seasonal "let's go through our sketchbooks and look at all the abandoned WIPS" and then bagging on each other for not finishing our works for half an hour.

[uncut dove]

giant pyramid sorry haha, It IS hidden isnt it

[late yacht]

LMAOOO

[uncut dove]

Is this okay @flat island
That is your build it is next to
It's a physics object so you can move it 🙂

[scarlet apex]

hey guys

[rotund brook]

Ily said what!

[late yacht]

har how are you doin

[night rose]

:3

[late yacht]

😭

[latent latch]

im just now seeing the drama over the towers by that one person

i find that comically funny how its that big of a deal to them ngl

its just towers 😭

[late yacht]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1397068022249820220/1413793887205593118/image.png?ex=68bd39a9&is=68bbe829&hm=12e29b9ad2445b1b3a18035d19baa9b5c2bffcae8f1fb1b1104c3432ba7ff1d9&

[viral hatch]

heh heh skeleton uprising

[ripe lynx]

@late yacht ripping the sun out of the sky

[late yacht]

thats awesome lmao

[ripe lynx]

Watchtower uwu

[vital trail]

we smokin that good shit tonight

[ripe lynx]

Mogged

[regal pond]

[flat island]

lol that’s peak

[uncut dove]

niiiice 🤣 me last night tho

[uncut dove]

oh shit, It’s Obama, hi Obama.

[regal pond]

[late yacht]

I love you obama

[regal pond]

[vital trail]

absolutely zooted

[uncut dove]

well, I Was going to work on more but now its just dark and flashing

let me know when/if it's changed back. this is just annoying

[uncut dove]

I wont delete my creations and make a whole scene about it tho. I'll just come back when its done o/ lmao

[regal pond]

Controversial decision.

[rotund brook]

No way the thunder was left on dude

I knew this would happen

[flat island]

??

[ripe lynx]

Oh, was the server not changed back to clear skies and daytime after last night's spooky night-storm tomfoolery?

Nvm. It's evening and overcast raining now

[modest kindle]

i appear to not be able to connect

[edgy blade]

tunnel transport hopefully tomorrow
ill probably redo the chrome crusher anyways im not happy with a few bits + i missed a couple details

[vital trail]

lmao the use of the basegame tree for the drill is some gigabrain problemsolving

[flat island]

Discord: https://discord.gg/ARXzByP8U3
I will figure out the configuration on-the-fly.

[edgy blade]

this is the coolest thing ive ever made

[scarlet apex]

did u use my parts :D

[edgy blade]

yea

[night rose]

er

[latent latch]

Haven't been on in a good while but I will be back someday soon

As soon as I finish up my space roleplay server and host it once atleast

[night rose]

@hasty forum

[flat island]

The Fox Box world will be backed up and reset on New Years Day. If you are here, but happen to not be in the official Discord Server, this is your notice to hop on and backup your stuff!

This will, of course, massively help performance.

[flat island]

The Fox Box 2 [Islands, Dedicated, Furry!]

Server Reset!

The server has been reset and start anew, now with islands!

[regal pond]

Any way to up this bitch to 30? Been trying to join forever now and it's just pinned at 20/20.

[slim pike]

IIRC the server already has issues running with just 20 people

[humble acorn]

yes it was lowered to 20 because playercounts higher than that seriously deminish the already low TPS

[regal pond]

Maybe an AFK autokicker? Kick after 10 minutes of no movement and warning the player a few times?

[slim pike]

I don't think the way foxbox is currently being hosted supports plugins

[flat island]

Not currently :(
Unless someone has a good method for autorestarting Omegga on server crash.

Need hardware upgrades but can’t currently dump more money into servers

[slim pike]

If you have a way to restart omegga itself if it ever closes, there's a simple plugin that closes omegga if the server crashes

[fringe grove]

systemd service with that and Restart=always and you're golden probably

If you need console access through commandline as well, you might need to make a script that runs the process in a screen instead of running it directly

That's what I do for minecraft

[ripe lynx]

Are there any plans to bring the OG Fox Box back up? I've been off the game for a while and came back to it recently. I never saved a current copy of the campgrounds i was working on. I never copied my trees, final terrain, nor watchtower

[slim pike]

There's backups that can be pulled from to get that stuff

[ripe lynx]

Cool. What do I need to do or who do I need to contact?

[slim pike]

There's a link to the download in the Foxbox discord #1414079858585108490 message

Otherwise I could pull from the copy I've got when I'm next at my computer

[ripe lynx]

I'm not a part of that server so that's a big ole # unknown for me :<

I'm in no hurry, so if you could get it to me later on, that'd be phenominal

[slim pike]

I believe this is it, there's around 7.2k more bricks of yours on foxbox that aren't part of the prefab but it wasn't immediately obvious where

[ripe lynx]

Oh I know where they'd be. There was
1, the campground
2, the lil rekker model I made by the FNAF building on the earth pillars (I have a copy of this)
3, the rest stop at the edge of the world (I have a copy of this, too)

[slim pike]

ah good. My mapper tool doesn't support finding who has bricks in a chunk yet, but it may soon

[ripe lynx]

I don't think I built anywhere else past those 3 points. Maybe the pixel art on the board, but I also have a copy of that too