#Offering help with bass stuff

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fervent crow
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thats normal for all basses

random tundra
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its because u just got it

stable crest
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Dammnn

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Lmaoo

random tundra
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u ill get used to it

stable crest
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Ahhh

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But i can only get it that way

fervent crow
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i could only hold it for maybe 5 seconds back when i first learned it, maybe even 2

random tundra
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fr lmao

fervent crow
stable crest
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How do people

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Sing with it lol

fervent crow
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it all comes with time

random tundra
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yeah

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practicing

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and really getting used to it

stable crest
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Daammn

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Now im coughing a lot

fervent crow
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most sounds on average take 3 months to get the hang of for normal people with limited experience with the muscles

random tundra
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normal

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u need to really drink water

fervent crow
stable crest
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Muscle memory issit

random tundra
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and if u feel any disconfort besides a little burn or scratch

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stop

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if it really hurts

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stop, drink water and rest until it gets better

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then do it again

random tundra
stable crest
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I try to do it with 5 sec

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And i cough in the end

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Hahahaha

fervent crow
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muscle memory, also your throat litterally needs to evolve to do the sounds

random tundra
stable crest
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Now i can do it little longer

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But when i speak it seems growly

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I dunno why my recorder convert it to aac tho

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How to set it to mp3?

fervent crow
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depends on the recorder

random tundra
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idk

fervent crow
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which are you using?

random tundra
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btw

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u sent the same recording

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the first one

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u sent it again

stable crest
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Oh wait

random tundra
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to .mp3

fervent crow
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if i remember correctly... aac is apples default audio recording right?

random tundra
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as im on pc

stable crest
random tundra
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u got throat bass

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lol

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practice that through ur nose first

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to get it stable

stable crest
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Nose?

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Hooww

random tundra
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yeah like

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closed mouth

stable crest
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Ooo

fervent crow
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i allways found it easier through my mouth personally

random tundra
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with the air coming out only trought ur nose

stable crest
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I take things too far?

random tundra
stable crest
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I tried to vocalize

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Hahaha

random tundra
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it its vocalized

stable crest
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Can you speak during throat bass?

random tundra
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throat bass is a vocalized bass

random tundra
stable crest
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Its normal the voice is very deep

random tundra
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also, a sound don't need to be vocalized to u speak with it

stable crest
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Can u heard what i said?

random tundra
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kinda

fervent crow
stable crest
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Its i love you but in throat bass

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Not saying im gay tho

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Lool

random tundra
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lmao ik

stable crest
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Its just im inspired from bigman

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He do singing throat bass

random tundra
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yeah

stable crest
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I dont think mine produce any air thru the nose

fervent crow
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should lol

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allmost all basses do

stable crest
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Damn means im doing it wrong

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No?

fervent crow
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throat bass also isnt overtly the airiest sound

random tundra
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yea

stable crest
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Its like im holding my breath

fervent crow
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ya judging from your texture it checks out

stable crest
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U dont hold ur breath?

random tundra
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no

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throat bass is done by exhaling

fervent crow
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ya, on some textures it will feel like you arent exhaling, just simply from how little air it can use

random tundra
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yeah

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normally u feel that with tight basses

fervent crow
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nicer textures of throat bass like codfish or bigman use alot more air tho

random tundra
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ye

random tundra
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stupid name

fervent crow
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lol

stable crest
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Hmmm

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Can u do throat bass like 20 second

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Without stopping

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I cant get it how u breathe with it

fervent crow
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my record i beleive is... 26?28? or it was in the 30s dont remember

random tundra
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I can't lmao

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I have asthma

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im nerfed

stable crest
fervent crow
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no

random tundra
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almost every loose bass I have I can't barely hold for more than 10 sec\

fervent crow
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thats fully sustained

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no kicks no nothing

stable crest
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I mean can u breathe during throat bass

fervent crow
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no

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you cannot seperately breath when doing throat bass

random tundra
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u can't inhale while exhaling

fervent crow
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you exhale and thats it, if you breath in then ya it breaks the throat bass

stable crest
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Ooo

stable crest
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Lmaaoo

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I think u can do that the same time

fervent crow
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no

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lol

random tundra
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nope u can't

fervent crow
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physically impossible, and also impossible in physics as well

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you can circular breath with instruments, but you arent inhaling and exhaling at the same time, you are inhaling while pushing air out of your mouth with your tongue, not lungs

random tundra
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yea

fervent crow
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your lungs cant expand and contract at the same time lmao

random tundra
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unfortunately

stable crest
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oh no

fervent crow
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beatboxing would be a whole different beast if you could unsyncronize your lungs

stable crest
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i think i reached my daily limit

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i can't do it anymore

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it's just scratching right now

random tundra
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its happens

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learning basses is weird sometimes

stable crest
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aw

fervent crow
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throat bass espesh

stable crest
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espesh?

fervent crow
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espessially

stable crest
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ooo

fervent crow
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it hits its limit real early

random tundra
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yea

stable crest
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yea i think it's dry already

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now i can't do it, i can do it but lesser than before

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hahaha im pushing too much man

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im too excited im getting it right

random tundra
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lol I know that feeling

stable crest
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alright guys, thanks a lot

random tundra
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np

stable crest
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i will keep practicing

fervent crow
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i was the same when i learned high harmonic poly

stable crest
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and see the progress lool

stable crest
random tundra
fervent crow
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ya

random tundra
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I get that A LOT with poly chest

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only texture I can get consistent so far is that super tight poly chest with falsetto

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ts annoying af

tepid comet
fervent crow
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they all sounded like some form of vibration tbh

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lol

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the first was hyper vocalized vibration 4th sub, the second was the same but higher pitch, the 3rd i wanna say was 5th sub

tepid comet
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Im still having hella trouble putting them into routines but I think they are pretty unique

fervent crow
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well tbf anything below 3rd sub can be quite hard to put into routines

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and anything below 4th sub doesnt sound good anymore even with training

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it becomes a party trick

tepid comet
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I think its actually cooler I think it sounds like his but with vibration

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even the first bass tho is kinda hard to put into stuff

fervent crow
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def is not simular to adi karang at all

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falsetto you can bend the rules more

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lower subs still work well

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for example monkey bass

tepid comet
tepid comet
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I feel like it bends the rules more but sounds worse 😭

brazen elbow
fervent crow
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dual projected uvula bass? either that or zombie bass

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itrs some high up muscle

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there might be some arytenoid/epiglottic scraping going on tho

fervent crow
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falsetto vibration alone is iffy

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im saying for majority of sounds

fervent crow
random tundra
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I don't think zombie bass can get vocalized on that more high pitched note

fervent crow
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ya

orchid horizon
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Why is it so high pitched?

fervent crow
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Thats hardly even mid note lol

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Its cause of how much jayton you are using, the more jayton the more your voice naturally goes higher pitch

orchid horizon
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I tried the tip some guys on a jam session told me

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Go deep

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In a throat bass

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And it seems to have kinda worked?

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Still pretty hight pitched tho...

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Idk should I focus on throat bass first?

fervent crow
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Yes, a better throat bass equals a better vibration

fervent crow
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Its a crutch

orchid horizon
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Gotcha

fervent crow
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Tho, focus more on the throat bass part of vibration than the jayton basically, it will help

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Personally helps me when i do throat bass then add jayton onto it, rather than vice versa

orchid horizon
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Okay ill work on that throat bass for now then thanks for the tips so much!

fervent crow
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Yeye

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High vibration isnt necissarly bad

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It can be so harmonic sounds

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It shows off texture way more

orchid horizon
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I didn't think about that, interesting

fervent crow
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And also almost noone trains it

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Ive only seen rrally me, codfish, and beastboy train it for this much control

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Remix is kinda trying to, but he loses alot of control at his highs

orchid horizon
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Mhm...

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āœļø

fervent crow
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Idk if posting my bass diagram would help you with control

orchid horizon
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Oh I've seen it lol

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It kinda does, but I still need to

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Ya know

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Control the muscles lol

fervent crow
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Ye lol

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But not guessing where the muscles are helps alot

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Like bqck when we thought vibration was a variation of throat bass fully, it was inconsistant

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Once we learned the throat bass is just gor the harmony and some texture help

fervent crow
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yk what i find interesting, since i opened this forum, ive seen way less people needing help with basses in seperate forums

modest rapids
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Are there any beatboxers who use snore bass a lot? I feel like it's really easy but really powerful

shut spruce
fervent crow
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its just a gaggy sound for most and doesnt sound great

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(and also i find beatboxers have a weird issue with using sounds that are easy)

modest rapids
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Relatedly, is there a name for an "outward snore bass"? Interestingly, you can also vocalize it.

fervent crow
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It would just be outward snore bass

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Ofc have to do it certain ways to not make it just bw vocalized uvula bass or vocal nasal uvula bass

fervent crow
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idk if ive heard pono use it

brazen elbow
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"You feeling it now?" transition

stable crest
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how do you high note with throat bass

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i can do low note but i can't do high

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when he's explaining part "you can do 50% of the music right now"

fervent crow
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Hate all of dharnis tutorials honestly

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But basically for high throat bass, alot of tightening

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Higher your voice goes, the more constricted the bass gets

fervent crow
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Man i remember when there was a message here every fay

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Day*

proven stone
proven stone
fervent crow
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Didnt we conferm ages ago it was shield poly + slizzer, and that slizzer doesnt reaallly feel like chest

fervent crow
proven stone
fervent crow
keen egret
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im actually going crazy idk why but i have so much trouble differentiating between vcb/vibration/throat bases when i'm doing them. i know i can do all 3 but i never know which one im doing. can someone confirm that this is throat and vibration and NOT vcb bc that's what i was going for

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cause last time i thought i was doing vcb and i posted in here and got told i was actually doing vibration 😭

fervent crow
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Thats throat bass and a rough vibration ya

raw tartan
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Hi! Looking for help with identifying the different vocal basses I've been doing. Just wanna preface that i am a girl so the sound may not be as clear as guys, so I've been told lol. Found out my throat bass technique may have been wrong this whole time and I'm wondering if the technique I'm using for vibration bass should be the same for throat bass. (and also what kind of bass have i been doing before 😭). Appreciate the help, thank you!

fervent crow
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2nd one... I cant tell if its vibration or poly chest cause i know vibration can be weird for girls

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Not bad weird

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Different weird

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It can sound way more harmonic

raw tartan
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yea sometimes im getting multiple subharmonics(?)

fervent crow
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Well vibration bass is naturally 3rd subharmonic

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Only like 3 people including me can do it 4th subharmonic consistantly

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Poly chest doesnt pay as much attention to the subharmonics

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It can be whatever when ever due to it being 3 major oscillations

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Unlike vibration which is 2 and one support

raw tartan
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i feel like my technique is still kinda off, im pushing my throat up (???) too much and it sounds nasal if i vocalize it with my mouth rather than humming it

fervent crow
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because you are a girl its expected, but also doesnt mean its not vibration

fervent crow
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Ya

jagged folio
# fervent crow Ya

yo wsp im new to bases are there any recos for the names of some basses that sounds cool i have done throat bass but i feel like i need more

fervent crow
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Chest bass as well but if you have actually done throat bass chest id harder

jagged folio
fervent crow
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Ye

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They are good sounds

velvet crag
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how to do lowe trumpet? justin called it chest trumpet

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lower

fervent crow
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Theres a couple low trumpets

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Theres chest voice trumpet (can also be called trumbone or saxophone), then chest bass or throat bass trumpet

fervent crow
brazen elbow
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How do I even do Hippy's Poly Bass 😭

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like is it inward

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idk

fervent crow
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I think its inward? Idk hippy is rarely on my list

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@narrow pike i think this is more your turf, i can explain shield poly but not hippy cause hippie is weird

narrow pike
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honestly not exactly sure, I think the one darklight is reffering to is actually different after all

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i agree it sounds inward and i can get something that sounds at least vaguely reminiscent but its so hard to do and not fall into fry vus of how low it is so i cant even say that for sure

brazen elbow
fervent crow
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I wonder if match would be good to look at, he does alot of inward poly textures maybe it has a hint to help?

narrow pike
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ears can be deceiving tho it doesnt 100% mean im actually close

brazen elbow
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HOLY

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I GOT IT FOR A SECOND

narrow pike
fervent crow
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Sounds like my inward poly at times, inward poly can really sound like inward fry with some textures

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It gets messy

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Like i do river inward poly, super strained and easiest to do after a k snare

brazen elbow
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yeah hes right, getting it away from being a vocal fry is annoying

narrow pike
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honestly i havent put that much thought into it, it seems like a neat trick or cool sound if youre the inventor but texture wise imo all other polies are superior

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except if you for some reason really need an inward chest voice poly but use cases seem even rarer than for normal polies

fervent crow
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I use inward poly for inward bass sometimes and i love it

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Besides that... the pain and lack of poly isnt worth it

brazen elbow
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I just like the tone of hippies compared to most other low polys

narrow pike
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fr?

brazen elbow
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Yeah, the high tone and the low tone are so nicely balanced

narrow pike
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i find it sounds like in a game if youre talking to some npc and pick a dialogue option that negatively impacts your relationship with them

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oddly specific but i cant get it put of my head lol

brazen elbow
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ngl thats a good explaination

narrow pike
fervent crow
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Only time i can get a far high and low tone besides falsetto basses is like my shield poly + falsetto or falsetto poly + chest voice (varies on how im feeling)

narrow pike
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tf

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are you sure thats what youre doing

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that sounds outlandishly impossible

fervent crow
fervent crow
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Its not impossible

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It can be annoying, and litterally will never sound good

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Cause you throw almost all harmony out the window for a party trick

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Quadpoly is also quite bad, yhe more layers you add the more boat horn it becomes

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Which is the high + low

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But ya pretty damn sure its what im doin

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About as much of a party trick as falsetto fry sub

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Atleast falsetto fry sub you can get to sound somewhat cool at times..

narrow pike
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bruh im boutta crash out server ate my paragraph cus i swore out of reflex

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phone so ass

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id be interested to hear in the morning tho

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its 9 am rn so i should prob get at least a little sleep

fervent crow
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Its 12pm for me so i cant record lol

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I know theres a recording SOMEWHERE in bbbxc cause dark was curious

cedar mica
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Hello! I want to start learning inward bass.. I learned throat bass pretty fast (Maybe less then a day) so could u make a small "tutorial" of sorts for inward bass?

velvet crag
fervent crow
zealous copper
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any ways to improve inward chest bass?

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i turn my head like 85* to the left to get better sounding

fervent crow
fervent crow
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Sounds more like vocodahs inward when you do it nasally

zealous copper
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I do chest bass and switch to inwards

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So pretty sure there is no way that i can mess up

zealous copper
fervent crow
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vocodahs texture of inward

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which most inward basses are inward evil

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inward chest is pretty uncommon, only really den does it fully

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for big names

fervent crow
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however, it usually yeilds normal inward which is inward evil

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due to anatomy and how muscles interact with inward breathing

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you need to purpousfully do inward chest, its not exactly a natural or convenient sound

zealous copper
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So if i switch from chest bass to inward then i will get evil inward?

fervent crow
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inward evil ya

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evil inward is a spacific texture, but inward evil is an inward rattle of the arytenoids

zealous copper
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So ima stick with inward evil for now, how do i improve it?

fervent crow
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try to change tongue positions, and maybe more air

zealous copper
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I am using already a lot of air that i can max do it for 4-5 seconds

fervent crow
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more air and allways remember inward is above your vocal chords

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so adjust positions and tightness around there

zealous copper
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Btw can someone do inward chest bass?

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Cause even tutorials on yt do evil inward while trying to do inward chest

fervent crow
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dens is the main example, big thing is he adds vocal fry under it but it is inward chest bass

fervent crow
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tbh if you use a sound to get another sound, it doesnt mean its the same sound family or muscle

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just relitive

zealous copper
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So what do i get when i do evil bass but on an inward

brazen elbow
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I don't understand what you meant by fried in that chart

fervent crow
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Inward fry + inward chest

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Never said fried chest bass inward

fervent crow
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Heck doing a super relaxed and low throat bass then hyperventilating with it even gets you inward evil

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Any other of those is inconvenient and you need to purpousfully do it

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(Ex. Inward chest and Inward throat bass)

brazen elbow
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For me inward bass is routrine inward whilst whispering

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I also have to tilt my head to the side a bit

fervent crow
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Routrine inward makes no sense unless you are doing inward uvula-

brazen elbow
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Well Its not chest bass i can say that

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and its certainly not evil

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but its in the throat

fervent crow
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Maybe zombie?

brazen elbow
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Maybe

fervent crow
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Cause inward uvula is VERY different from any inward bass

brazen elbow
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Lemme try smth

fervent crow
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Zombie bass done inward can get you inward bass tho, and it some extremes you can gey inward zombie bass

brazen elbow
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oop

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wrong one

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here

fervent crow
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Yup sounds like zombie

brazen elbow
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Sickk

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So then Zombie is top of the throat sorta area

fervent crow
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And the texture of your inward makes sense cause zombie bass done inward typically gives you locked inward

fervent crow
brazen elbow
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also, question

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Do you count wawads double bass thing as a seperate bass or not?

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from the arguement with remixes 34 basses vid

fervent crow
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Hmm, double basses are where it gets interesting

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True double basses like double chest and double tongue bass are their own basses

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BUT it gets iffy for A bass + B bass

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So like liproll + clickroll isnt its own bass, but clickroll + inward bass is (liquid bass)

brazen elbow
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And speaking about inward, I've heard from other sources about how to do Kingdom's sorta baby inward bass technique

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But I don't understand HOW he does it

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It's something to do with high inward bass rattling the uvula and opening and closing the throat really fast

fervent crow
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High inward + uvula is pain

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Possible

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But awful to do

brazen elbow
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And the throat closing thing

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I don't understand.

fervent crow
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Openinf and closinf the throat fast tho.... only thing i can think of is diaphragm stutters, but thats an outward technique

brazen elbow
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Maybe he SOMEHOW found a way to do that inward?

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No idea.

fervent crow
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I cant think of any technique like that inward besides just cancling breathing

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For an inward laugh

brazen elbow
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I also know he does a filter position usually whilst pronouncing J and Yul inward.

fervent crow
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Its weird

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Its hard for me to thinm rn cause its midnight and i need sleep lol

brazen elbow
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Alg

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1:12

fervent crow
velvet crag
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how to recorder stuff and on discord like you doin here?

velvet crag
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record, not flutePACMax

zealous copper
fervent crow
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Dlows inward is locked inward

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So are pushing your epiglottis down with your tongue

zealous copper
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How exactly tongue is possitioned to push down epiglottis?

fervent crow
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The very back of the tongue pushes into your throat

coral elm
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wait

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right when i pushed my back of the tongue back

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it sounded better

fervent crow
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Ye

coral elm
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where in the throat is the inward bass but in the swallowing position placed and is dlows inward the same thing? like how it work

fervent crow
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its still the same inward bass

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BUT, the epiglottis is lcoked

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locked

coral elm
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Ahhh okay

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I really like your diagram of the basses are there any more of those anything to do with beatbox

fervent crow
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theres like one other chest bass diagram but i havnt had the motivation to make more

fast valley
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Can you help me with the throat bass cuz I'm having a hard time doing it

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I can do inward and chest bass but I can't do throat bass

modest rapids
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Is vibration bass just throat bass + vocal fry or is that a myth?

deft flume
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like a throat + jayton voice

modest rapids
deft flume
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a constipated voice

turbid obsidian
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quick question
how do you tell between vibration bass and vcb
so ill upload a recording

turbid obsidian
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i did note the post on it like a month back but

fervent crow
fervent crow
fervent crow
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Which you get from throat bass + constricted singing/jayton MOST of time

unkempt drum
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Which is arguably harder to achieve between vibration bass and inward bass?

fervent crow
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hmm

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inward

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vibration is harder to master and get useable

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but inward is harder to get

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it does depend tho

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if you are good at chest or throat

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if you are good at chest bass, vibration is way harder than inward purely for the fact of the throat bass

idle dagger
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for me it's the opposite lol
im rly bad at chest bass but my inward is miles better than vibration
ugh why doesnt this server allow swearing

narrow pike
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legit just still

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trust the aryepiglottics are a fraud

fervent crow
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Again vibration is way harder to master lol

idle dagger
fervent crow
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Huh, idk ivr seen inward bass issues more than vibration

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Espesh from how easy it is to do vibration by accident

fervent crow
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Vocal folds:

  1. Fry subharmonic
  2. Shield poly
  3. Inward fry
  4. Double inward fry

False folds:
5. Throat bass
6. Falsetto throat bass

Vibration:
7. Vibration bass
8. Falsetto vibration bass
9. Space Bass
10. Boas bass

Cuneiforms:
Sizzler bass

Arytenoid:
11. Evil bass
High Evil bass
12. Inward bass
13. Vocalized Inward bass
14. Double inward bass

Epiglottis:
15. Zombie bass

Uvula:
16. Uvula bass
17. Vocal Uvula bass
18. Falsetto Vocal Uvula bass
19. Double Vocal Uvula bass
20. Evil Uvula bass
21. Nasal Uvula bass
22. Pig bass
23. Nasal Vocal Uvula bass
24. Evil nasal uvula bass
25. Outward Snore bass
26. Inward uvula bass
27. Inward nasal uvula bass
28. Inward snore bass
29. Inward evil uvula bass

Tongue.
30. Middle tongue bass
31. Primal Fear Tongue bass
32. Heavy tongue bass
33. Closed teeth middle tongue bass
34. Vocalized Middle tongue bass
35. True Overtone tongue bass
36. Drill bass
37. Out of the mouth tongue bass
38. Middle clickroll
39. Vocalized clickroll
40. Side tongue bass
41. Closed mouth side tongue bass
42. Vocalized side tongue bass
43. Double tongue bass
44. Inward Tongue roll

Lips:
45. Lip bass
46. Lip buzz
47. Vocalized lip bass
48. Double lip bass
49. Smile bass
50. Side lip bass
51. Liproll
52. Liproll bass
53. Vocalized liproll
54. Punchy liproll(s)
55. 8 bit liproll
56. Cyclone liproll
57. Double liproll
58. Tooth roll
59. Vocalized tooth roll
60. Dlow Electro bass
61. SpaceG/outward electro bass

Ducks:
62. Duck sound
63. Vocalized duck sound
64. Zekka bass

Combo basses:
65. Routrine bass
66. Liquid Bass
67. Rolled lip buzz
68. Demon Tongue bass
69 (nice). Sudo Double clickroll
70. Wobbly liproll

H.M.:
Whistle Basses
Uvula + Throat bass
Inward + inward fry
Inward poly + inward
Airless lipbass
Low/sub singing

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every bass i can do

coral elm
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wat is this ????

fervent crow
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Def inward poly... almost sounds like its inward poly and a hint of tooth whistle?

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Rubber chicken aah sound

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@narrow pike you hearin this?

brazen elbow
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That sounds so different

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like is comes through so much cleaner then the other souns

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sounds*

narrow pike
fervent crow
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Actuallt idk... i just did it.. mind you my inward poly is eh

narrow pike
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I mean the way he gasps for it explains how piercing it is

fervent crow
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I almost wanna say it could be using inward laser instead cause the whistle is softer

narrow pike
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doesnt make that much of a difference

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both sound around the same

fervent crow
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Yes

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But one is noticably louder than the other

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The issue here with my recording is the tooth whistle is overpowering it

narrow pike
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just depends on how its done, the sharp inhale is just easier for traditional inward tooth whistle

fervent crow
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Ooo wait hol up i just did.a weird subharmonic of inward poly

narrow pike
fervent crow
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Gah i allready wrecked my throat roday i should not of done that

brazen elbow
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is outward

coral elm
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What is it

brazen elbow
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Idk, I just found it

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I was experimenting with routrine bass and pushed it in a certain way and got that

coral elm
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What even is routine nass

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Bass

fervent crow
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Nasal uvula bass + throat bass

brazen elbow
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Can you locate what I just did?

brazen elbow
fervent crow
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Hmm

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Is it still using your uvula

brazen elbow
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It's more top of the throat, so i guess?

fervent crow
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K

brazen elbow
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Theres also a bit of the vibration on the back-end on my tongue?

fervent crow
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Could be a form of routrine bass, might be a fatter than normal throat bass

brazen elbow
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I did branch it off routrine

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idk what i did

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i tightened my throat and did smth else

coral elm
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That's cool keep experimenting papa

brazen elbow
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Oh yeah not really bass but I got inferapes bass+cheek whistle combo thing

fervent crow
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The thing thats gwtting me is the modulation

brazen elbow
brazen elbow
fervent crow
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Might be juat from a fat throat bass, cpuld you try to do each part seperately?

brazen elbow
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its such a fatty bass

fervent crow
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ah thats why i couldnt match it, it was just constricted singing + nasal uvula

meager wave
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Yo spaceG I looked at the list that you typed could you perhaps help me learn primal fear tongue bass?

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Cuz when I try I get this

fervent crow
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Not quite

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I have a tutorial on my yt or tiktok one sec

fervent crow
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Basically gotta be tighter

meager wave
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It won’t let me watch it for some reason

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I don’t have tik tok that’s probs why

meager wave
fervent crow
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In the back

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Gotta hit thsy tongue scrape

humble vapor
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hello im trying to get the inward bass, but every time i get an inward fried bass. Have any suggestions?

fervent crow
humble vapor
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Yes

fervent crow
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ok

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without changing positions

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do one of those and hyperventilate quickly

zealous copper
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yo

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i still need some help with basic inward evil bass

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so i do it by inwarding chest bass and trying to get like crispy texture

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and how should it sound like

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cause altrough i hear mine as crispy, but when i record it and listen

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it has kinda lame texture

zealous copper
fervent crow
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when abouts did you learn it? cause its still gonna take time

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tho try different throat positions, tongue positions, all that

zealous copper
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but i didin't practise a lot by that time

fervent crow
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oh ya its gonna come with time lol

zealous copper
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but it sounds right?

fervent crow
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6 days is nowhere near enough time

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ya it sounds right

upper spear
fervent crow
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Ya, but very softly

upper spear
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How do I improve it??

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I mean do I need to push it further?

fervent crow
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Ya basically, add more throat bass or more constricted voice

coral elm
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HOLY THIS IS CLOSE TO ERVINHO

upper spear
brazen elbow
coral elm
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i dont really know im doing slizzer bass and then i have no idea like randomly it just comes i really dont know

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im just experimenting

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and it came randomly

random tundra
fervent crow
brazen elbow
idle dagger
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asymmetric cuneiforms vibrating in two different undertones of the vocalization

fervent crow
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Ya its double chest bass

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Basically think of a horse shoe going around and into your throat, then imagine both the tips shaking/vibrating at the same speed

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Now make one vibrate slower then the other

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Thats poly chest

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But instead of tips of a horseshoe, its your cuneiform tubicles oscillating

dull fjord
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can yall help me with throat bass

random tundra
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with poly chest both vibrates at the same time

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so its 2 chest basses at different pitches at the same time

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  • ur voice
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thats usually on kermit voice position on poly chest bass

fervent crow
coral elm
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i can do the normal one

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and i can do another one thats slightly higher up in the throat

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is that like true?

random tundra
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maybe

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can u send an audio going from the first one to the second one?

coral elm
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ye hold on

fervent crow
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Someyimes higher pitches, espes with basses, can feel higher up

coral elm
random tundra
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the same thing happens with me

fervent crow
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Ye

random tundra
coral elm
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ok

fervent crow
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For my double inward its usually the automatic case

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If i go high, theres a high chance the low slips in

random tundra
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that doesn't happens with my inward bass

fervent crow
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(Whivh is annoying cause i use that same high texture to go into remix inward)

coral elm
random tundra
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I can go super high with it and it doesn't slips into double inward

random tundra
coral elm
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yeah i was thinking it sounds like it

random tundra
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just a little bit higher on pitch

coral elm
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wait but whats the other one

random tundra
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wdym

fervent crow
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I thought chest was doing it on both cuneiforms syncronized but then you unsync for poly chest

random tundra
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subz can do chest bass with both cuneiforms

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like

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one at a time

fervent crow
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Ah

random tundra
random tundra
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u can hear that it happens to me

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lol

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I don't like that

random tundra
coral elm
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am i doing it right

random tundra
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inward bass?

coral elm
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inward bass

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it sounds a bit crap

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but am i going the right direction

random tundra
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@fervent crow isn't this evil nasal uvula?

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but inwards

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sounds like it

fervent crow
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Ya

coral elm
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uhhhh

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wait so

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how inward bass

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šŸ„€

random tundra
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try to inhale chest bass

coral elm
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i can do the basic one

random tundra
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or hyperventilate with chest bass

coral elm
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whats the dlow one

random tundra
fervent crow
coral elm
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wait but spaceg

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it feels like its pretty deep in the throat tho

random tundra
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can u do it with open mouth?

coral elm
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wait when i open mouth the sounds dont change

random tundra
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maybe ur just tighting it af

fervent crow
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Due to how the nerves are

coral elm
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so how would i go with doing dlows inward

fervent crow
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Like sometimes it can almost feel right above my epiglottis

random tundra
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I got it by trying the swallow position thing

fervent crow
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Aka push your tongue back into your throat

random tundra
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yeah that works too I think

coral elm
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im doing the swallow thing

fervent crow
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Recently its semi been found that its seems close to an epiglottic slizzer roll? But idk how to explain that

random tundra
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when I do that I slip into swallow inward

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(if I don't have the urge to puke

coral elm
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how do you lock ur eppiglotis swallowing?

random tundra
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not while swallowing

fervent crow
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When you swallow your epiglottis closes and your tongue moves back

random tundra
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but while doing regular inward bass

fervent crow
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So its an automatic response

random tundra
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yeah

coral elm
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thats what i did in the first clip aswell

random tundra
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can u try to relax that vibration?

coral elm
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cant relly relax it more

random tundra
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it really sounds like inward evil nasal uvula bass

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and ur doing it nasally when u open ur mouth too

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not orally

coral elm
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yeah i am but idk why cuz im doing like every tutorial ive seen

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gotta eat so ill be back like 30 minutes

random tundra
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ok

coral elm
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nvm i eat in room

fervent crow
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But here i also hear the scratch of the nose

coral elm
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ill say im pretty sure theres nothing coming from the nose

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it feels way below the nose area

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ok maybe

narrow pike
fervent crow
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It feels like the same to me and i get simular results

narrow pike
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it isnt period

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locking wouldnt let food through, so the epiglottis folds down to some extent as well

fervent crow
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Well

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Yk what i just realized

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Is dlow inward kinda like a epiglottic liquid bass?

narrow pike
coral elm
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so it dlows inward bass its own bass?

narrow pike
fervent crow
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Well if it uses a epiglottic slizzer bass, but has to have an underlayer to have that depth to it

narrow pike
narrow pike
fervent crow
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Liquid bass is a more broad term than that

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Really liquid bass is just a term for a rolled inward with the tongue

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So most types of clickroll are fair game

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Alot of people use inward OD (like tomaz and bart), and others use slizzer roll (remix)

narrow pike
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if thats your definition then ok but I dont consider slizzer roll to be a click roll in the sense of more traditional techniques

fervent crow
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Thats the community definition lol

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I dont count zekka bass as a clickroll variant but here we are lol

narrow pike
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I mean ive heard the uncs call slizzer roll sucker punch roll which I kinda agree with

fervent crow
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Never heard that

narrow pike
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the biggest difference is just how the airflow is chopped up

fervent crow
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Dlows slizzer is honestly one of my favs

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I still cant get a propper slizzer roll

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Its usually too tight and fast, or i accidentally use uvula cause of my tongue shape

narrow pike
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but whatever the definitions may be the tongue analogies do work just as long as you clearly state what you actually mean with that

narrow pike
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what it even sound like

fervent crow
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(Anothrr issue is idk whrte im doing the slizzer roll in the right spot, cause i do suckerpunches from my teeth to the middle of.my hard pallet)

narrow pike
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ima need an example cus what

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middle of the hard palate?

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bro on the wrong continent

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alveolar ridge

fervent crow
narrow pike
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slizzer roll slightly begind alveolar ridge, try different air pressures different tongue droop down strengths

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the whole shebang

fervent crow
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Almost getting it now

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Its probs gonna be one of those sounds thst sorts click with me at 3am

narrow pike
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ye def

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same thing for me

fervent crow
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Thats how i finally got my "poh" lol, 3am, i tried it, and got the sound

narrow pike
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always killed my lungs with the inhale pressure but then figured out the tongue part randomly

fervent crow
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Cause if i do thst, my tongue suctions to the top of my mouth and no more inhaling

idle dagger
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like how ice does

fervent crow
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Does he???

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How the hell??

idle dagger
fervent crow
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I havnt seen it tbh, i dont enjoy ice

idle dagger
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well you should check it out eventually

fervent crow
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maybe

narrow pike
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got a clip

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I dont like ice either

idle dagger
unkempt drum
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@fervent crow (or anybody else) - Im aware that some vibro basses can sound different from person to person (texture-wise especially), and Im wondering what kind of vibro bass mine sounds like if that makes sense?

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I've got two kinds if that makes sense (unless these are just different pithces)

fervent crow
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Reminds me of inertias

fervent crow
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Hard to tell rn though as j just woke up

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But inertias is less voice more fold

zealous copper
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yo

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how long did it take yall to learn inward bass

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i mean not just to make that noise, but like to get the good texture of it and do it for longer time

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and how many people actually help themselves by turning their head sum direction

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@fervent crow ?

fervent crow
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3-4 months is the average for most basses

fervent crow
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It stretches your larynx in certain ways

zealous copper
fervent crow
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Idk tbh

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I have an airier texture which changes jt too

coral elm
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@fervent crow

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I'm now using throat and not thee nose

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Is this correct?

fervent crow
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Still uvula

coral elm
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i dont think im using uvula

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Oh man maybe idk how not to thi

fervent crow
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The start no, but the end was 100% uvula

zealous copper
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I kinda dont ubderstand the idea of swallow thing

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Cause for sure it aint dlow inward bass

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Its too relaxed

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Could someone explain exactly how to push that thing down with your tongue?

fervent crow
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its hard to explain outside of you just do lol

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like it does just feel like pushing your tongue into your throat

random tundra
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Kinda similar to when u do a supper exaggerated kermit voice

brazen elbow
narrow pike
narrow pike
# coral elm

can you show what your throat looks like from the front when doing it

meager wave
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I used a corner out my mouth outwards and then tongue bass but it sounded weird

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Cuz I formally do it and get a more dubstep kinda bass but I got this this time

zealous copper
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I was kinda myssing qround with inward bass

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Does anyone know the name of it?

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And could someone like list or inward bass familly?

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this sum vocal fry and inward or what

modest rapids
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What is starsky bass? Is it just outwards vocalized snore bass and you have your lips positioned like you're doing the synth one-shot?

coral elm
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idk thats also what i think it is but i have no idea

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like the vibration is around the nose area

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or it could be uvula stuff

zealous copper
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Anyone??

fervent crow
zealous copper
fervent crow
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I needa grab my headphones here

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Sounds more correct

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Actually reminds me of remix, which is a form of locked inward

zealous copper
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Damnn

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So i be just speedruning basses

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Btw what the diffrience between stressed inward bass and evil uvula inward bass

random tundra
random tundra
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what even is that?

zealous copper
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Dlows inward bass

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Or locked inward bass

random tundra
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inward evil uvula bass is made with ur uvula

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similar to max's bass but inhaled

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dlow inward bass is arytenoids rattle inhaled

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with epiglottis on a locked posture

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thats the difference

zealous copper
zealous copper
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And wth is poly sub?

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How does it evrn sound like

random tundra
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shields poly

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chest voice poly

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@fervent crow is shield doing it at 2nd undertone actually?

fervent crow
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Ya

random tundra
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never realized it lmao

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cool

narrow pike
# coral elm

the way your larynx protrudes makes me think its something with a locked epiglottis, judging from you being able to get close to ervinhos bass id say probably locked inward chest

whole cargo
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what's the difference between throat bass and vibration bass?

fervent crow
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This is still where me and iks... disagree

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But essentually they are two different basses on different muscles

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Throat bass is false folds

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And vibration primarily happens on EITHER the aryepiglottic folds OR the cuneiforms (depending if you are with iks or me in thoughts lol)

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Vibration uses a form of throat bass as an aspect of it, but not normal throat bass

whole cargo
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hmm

unkempt drum
fervent crow
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Iks has looked down his throat, but thetes no concrete evidence, vibration isnt a specialty of kindreds and 1 trained person isnt enough evidence tbh

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I needa get a camera down my throat to get my full opinion

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But its hard to find good ones

narrow pike
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I mean theres multiple ways to get a vibration sounding bass, however none seem to need the aryepiglottic folds

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for me my cuneiforms start vibrating once I go from throat into classical vibration

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for kindred it seems to be similar

brazen elbow
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I usually just use mouth filters for variations of basses

narrow pike
narrow pike
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I mean some tongue and soft palate positions can be good but like lip and cheeks are odd

brazen elbow
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how i got my monster vibration thingy

narrow pike
# brazen elbow It works for me i guess

tongue position can actually change larynx positioning so thats easily the most usefull but everything else filtery just changes resonance and not the base technique youre doing

brazen elbow
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For me it makes a small difference but

unkempt drum
idle dagger
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inward chest bass
but i dont believe that

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because it should be pretty loud

zealous copper
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How to do cipher demon bass?

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I mean it sounds like vibration bass

idle dagger
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it's not

random tundra
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But idk what u should do specifically to make it

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Also, if ur referring to the bass remix call "cipher demon bass" on his video, the bass he is doing is not the same as the actual bass cipher uses

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Remix's bass that he calls like that is probably some variation of zombie bass

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His vocalized chest bass, evil bass, cipher demon bass and or thing I forgot the name are the same exact bass with little difference in raspiness, tightness, etc

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Also his "evil bass" is so off from actual evil bass that it's kinda annoying

unkempt drum
# idle dagger because it should be pretty loud

I never do inward chest and it was difficult to get at first (dont usually practice my chest bass) - could just be that I need to make it more consistent and it'll build dynamic over time

turbid obsidian
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what is vomit bass
i cannot figure out how the heck you get the epiglottis itself to move without
choking yourself 7 ways to hell

ebon flint
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I have a question about vocalized chest bass. How do you successfully add the vocalization ontop of the chest bass itself? I always lose the chest and move to throat or vibration automatically. Would love any tips if you have them

fervent crow
fervent crow
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Dont tighten

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Also make sure you can do kermit voice causw it helps alot

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But dont constrict your voice while doing it, really ita more adding chest bass ontop of your voice

ebon flint
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I'm either getting a hybrid of both types or just a low pitch on the chest bass

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I'm not sure, it does sound good so I might develop it

fervent crow
fervent crow
brazen elbow
fervent crow
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Weird

turbid obsidian
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kindred calls whatever he does vomit bass
that what i was referring to

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wait no

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wrong clip

fervent crow
turbid obsidian
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ok

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and also how do you do zombie bass ā˜ ļø

fervent crow
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Tilt your epiglottis and exhale heavily super relaxed

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Helps to add chest bass

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But hyper relaxed lots of air

coral elm
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DID I GET IT?

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INWARD BASS DLOW

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IM CERTAIN THIS IS IT

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It has to be

zealous copper
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i know nothing but this sounds kinda diffrient from dlows

coral elm
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tbf it was my first time getting it

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that was my first try

zealous copper
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Heres mine

coral elm
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how u do that

zealous copper
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i go first with evil inward bass

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and I do something with my tongue that the back of it kinda pushes down to my throat and thats it

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not that the tongue covers the entire throat

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slighty

fervent crow
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So locked

glass hemlock
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not exactly beatboxing here

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but is there a name for this?

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i like how it sounds

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the bass i mean

idle dagger
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vibration bass

modest rapids
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Is this anything special or just a throat bass variant?

sour inlet
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I'm pretty new to vocal effects in beatboxing, I've always been more of a percussionist. I'm just now getting the throat bass. I posted this video on Reddit asking if it was throat bass and they said yes but that I need to push it harder, more tension or more/less air. Any advice based off of this audio?

fervent crow
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More tension, addimg more voice helps

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Train constricted singing

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Helps with that clearer throat bass

sour inlet
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Thank you!

glass hemlock
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might be completely wrong here but is crythix bass like a poly chest bass?

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thats what it sounds like tome

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or at least when i do it it sounds close

coral elm
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thats exactly what i was thinking

narrow pike
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ye it is

terse hedge
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I might’ve sent this in the wrong chat, I just want to know the origin of this bass! I believe this is a variation of Exallos’s bass used in smother. Just wondering on some insight, I’ve used this for about 2 years now

fervent crow
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Sounds like a messy form of space bass

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Which exalos bass is a variation of

narrow pike
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one might say space bass is a variation of exallos bass

fervent crow
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Nahhhh lol (tho by definition they arw variations of eachother in a way, but space bass came first frfr)

terse hedge
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Hmm, cause I’m curious where your bass comes from, it sounds like stretched falsetto version of the vibration, which the version I’m doing is closer to a layer on top of throat bass. Similar to Ervinho’s bass

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I can do the layers separately, I use it singing sometimes

fervent crow
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Mine uses no falsetto

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Just high chest voice

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And its actual legal name is unsyncronized vibration

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Where the bass becomes overal a major third harmony rather than the typical octave and a fith

fervent crow
terse hedge
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No, but it’s a layer on top of chest bass, you can hear the fusion in the video when he fails to reach it in ā€œSay Itā€

fervent crow
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Ye i know, its double chest bass

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Spacifically a 5th between the two chest basses

terse hedge
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But that’s interesting, I guess I don’t really understand what goes on in the mouth. But I understand the basic concept of the layers

fervent crow
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Ye

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Vibration also is allready kinda adding something ontop of throat bass, ofc when you do it the throat bass turns into a perfect 5th

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From the voice

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You can also do throat bass + vibration bass because of that

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Makes it more full but the position is awkward and uncomfortable for the throat

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Space bass is unrelated to it

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Or to that technique, its directly relatwd to vibration

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https://youtu.be/n4FERxd8V-I heres the full tutorial for the sound

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terse hedge
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Hmm, well maybe I don’t fully get vibration then. Because I understood it as a vocal fry and throat bass meet from Indicator’s video

fervent crow
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Nah, indicator honestly knows jack all about basses lol

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Like how he explained alien bass almost was as far as you could get, besides it being a fry technique

terse hedge
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I like the texture of yours, very breathy. I think I get it a little more, thanks!

fervent crow
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Vibration is a 3 part bass, voice, false folds at a 5th below the voice, and (debated between us until i get a camera down my throat, others say its cuneiforms drumming against the epiglottis, i beleive its aryepiglottic folds) aryepiglottic folds at a full octave and a 5th below the voice

fervent crow
terse hedge
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It’s nice to hear other textures as well, I haven’t heard anyone until Exallos. Much love to Exallos, but I prefer not to stress the sound, especially because I use the sound to sing covers a lot

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Plus, two years now it’s crazy to know what I’ve been doing

fervent crow
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Lol

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I still claim ownership of the sound frfr lol

terse hedge
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I think it’s the same as inward bass, different textures, different names get attached you know? I love to hear the sound used though, people usually don’t enjoy it. I love to hear it in different styles

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Much love, thank you again!

fervent crow
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Yeye

fervent crow
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Personally i dislike exallos' texture

terse hedge
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I think it’s the stress level, yours is stressing what you call unsynchronized throat bass, while Exallos feels almost strained entirely. I tried to relax the sound to the fullest for combos and singing

fervent crow
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For my case, its very constricted

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Just a very constricted and high vibration bass to unsyncronize it

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Exallos claims he does his with fry distortion, but further testing is required

terse hedge
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Hm, I thought I could do it if I strained the sound. He stresses the ng vowel so I attempted it with the same bass I have so it seemed similar

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Maybe that’s just my battle brain

fervent crow
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Ye

orchid horizon
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Any tips on how to pitch an inwards bass?

terse hedge
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Ooh, also, any tips on how to lower the pitch of unsynchronized vibration?

fervent crow
fervent crow
terse hedge
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That’s fair, I think that the consistency of it is the part I’m practicing lol. Thanks again!