#Offering help with bass stuff
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its because u just got it
u ill get used to it
i could only hold it for maybe 5 seconds back when i first learned it, maybe even 2
fr lmao
yup
it all comes with time
most sounds on average take 3 months to get the hang of for normal people with limited experience with the muscles
at this point, drink water and dont push it
Muscle memory issit
and if u feel any disconfort besides a little burn or scratch
stop
if it really hurts
stop, drink water and rest until it gets better
then do it again
yea
Yeaah i got little burn
I try to do it with 5 sec
And i cough in the end
Hahahaha
muscle memory, also your throat litterally needs to evolve to do the sounds
@fervent crow his recording
yeah
Now i can do it little longer
But when i speak it seems growly
I dunno why my recorder convert it to aac tho
How to set it to mp3?
depends on the recorder
idk
which are you using?
Oh wait
if i remember correctly... aac is apples default audio recording right?
as im on pc
I really don't know
thats it bud
u got throat bass
lol
practice that through ur nose first
to get it stable
Ooo
i allways found it easier through my mouth personally
with the air coming out only trought ur nose
I take things too far?
he is getting vib when he opens mouth some how lmao
it its vocalized
Can you speak during throat bass?
throat bass is a vocalized bass
yeah
Its normal the voice is very deep
also, a sound don't need to be vocalized to u speak with it
Can u heard what i said?
kinda
lmao ik
yeah
throat bass also isnt overtly the airiest sound
yea
Its like im holding my breath
ya judging from your texture it checks out
U dont hold ur breath?
ya, on some textures it will feel like you arent exhaling, just simply from how little air it can use
nicer textures of throat bass like codfish or bigman use alot more air tho
ye
have u heard subharmonikz airless throat bass with air? š
stupid name
lol
Hmmm
Can u do throat bass like 20 second
Without stopping
I cant get it how u breathe with it
my record i beleive is... 26?28? or it was in the 30s dont remember
Yeah but u have some stops right there
no
almost every loose bass I have I can't barely hold for more than 10 sec\
I mean can u breathe during throat bass
throat bass is fully done by exhaling
u can't inhale while exhaling
you exhale and thats it, if you breath in then ya it breaks the throat bass
Ooo
yeah
nope u can't
physically impossible, and also impossible in physics as well
you can circular breath with instruments, but you arent inhaling and exhaling at the same time, you are inhaling while pushing air out of your mouth with your tongue, not lungs
yea
your lungs cant expand and contract at the same time lmao
unfortunately
oh no
beatboxing would be a whole different beast if you could unsyncronize your lungs
i think i reached my daily limit
i can't do it anymore
it's just scratching right now
aw
throat bass espesh
espesh?
espessially
ooo
it hits its limit real early
yea
yea i think it's dry already
now i can't do it, i can do it but lesser than before
hahaha im pushing too much man
im too excited im getting it right
lol I know that feeling
alright guys, thanks a lot
np
i will keep practicing
i was the same when i learned high harmonic poly
and see the progress lool
what is that?
falsetto poly?
ya
I get that A LOT with poly chest
only texture I can get consistent so far is that super tight poly chest with falsetto
ts annoying af
have u heard these bass's before? if not could u give them names
they all sounded like some form of vibration tbh
lol
the first was hyper vocalized vibration 4th sub, the second was the same but higher pitch, the 3rd i wanna say was 5th sub
this is pretty spot on im surprised
Im still having hella trouble putting them into routines but I think they are pretty unique
well tbf anything below 3rd sub can be quite hard to put into routines
and anything below 4th sub doesnt sound good anymore even with training
it becomes a party trick
i agree but i feel like the high pitch one is similar to adi karangs bass and he does it just fine
I think its actually cooler I think it sounds like his but with vibration
even the first bass tho is kinda hard to put into stuff
def is not simular to adi karang at all
falsetto you can bend the rules more
lower subs still work well
for example monkey bass
i mean in terms of sound / the high pitchness
I feel like it bends the rules more but sounds worse š
dual projected uvula bass? either that or zombie bass
itrs some high up muscle
there might be some arytenoid/epiglottic scraping going on tho
i mean, ofc its not gonna work well in falsetto lol
falsetto vibration alone is iffy
im saying for majority of sounds
prob uvula
I don't think zombie bass can get vocalized on that more high pitched note
ya
Thats hardly even mid note lol
Its cause of how much jayton you are using, the more jayton the more your voice naturally goes higher pitch
Okay so less squeezing... But now I can't activate the vibration at all...
I tried the tip some guys on a jam session told me
Go deep
In a throat bass
And it seems to have kinda worked?
Still pretty hight pitched tho...
Idk should I focus on throat bass first?
Yes, a better throat bass equals a better vibration
I dislike that method for getting vibration cause it offers the least control
Its a crutch
Gotcha
Tho, focus more on the throat bass part of vibration than the jayton basically, it will help
Personally helps me when i do throat bass then add jayton onto it, rather than vice versa
Okay ill work on that throat bass for now then thanks for the tips so much!
Yeye
High vibration isnt necissarly bad
It can be so harmonic sounds
It shows off texture way more
I didn't think about that, interesting
And also almost noone trains it
Ive only seen rrally me, codfish, and beastboy train it for this much control
Remix is kinda trying to, but he loses alot of control at his highs
Idk if posting my bass diagram would help you with control
Oh I've seen it lol
It kinda does, but I still need to
Ya know
Control the muscles lol
Ye lol
But not guessing where the muscles are helps alot
Like bqck when we thought vibration was a variation of throat bass fully, it was inconsistant
Once we learned the throat bass is just gor the harmony and some texture help
yk what i find interesting, since i opened this forum, ive seen way less people needing help with basses in seperate forums
Are there any beatboxers who use snore bass a lot? I feel like it's really easy but really powerful
I donāt use it a lot but I sometimes do it
i beleive zvd is one of few ive heard do it occasionally
its just a gaggy sound for most and doesnt sound great
(and also i find beatboxers have a weird issue with using sounds that are easy)
Relatedly, is there a name for an "outward snore bass"? Interestingly, you can also vocalize it.
It would just be outward snore bass
Ofc have to do it certain ways to not make it just bw vocalized uvula bass or vocal nasal uvula bass
given
Pono, Marvelous, Dillip
idk if ive heard pono use it
Check his gbb wildcard
"You feeling it now?" transition
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how do you high note with throat bass
i can do low note but i can't do high
when he's explaining part "you can do 50% of the music right now"
Hate all of dharnis tutorials honestly
But basically for high throat bass, alot of tightening
Higher your voice goes, the more constricted the bass gets
Didnt we conferm ages ago it was shield poly + slizzer, and that slizzer doesnt reaallly feel like chest
Sounds like locked fry sub
I know u said I'm wondering other peoples opinion
getting closer to remix
im actually going crazy idk why but i have so much trouble differentiating between vcb/vibration/throat bases when i'm doing them. i know i can do all 3 but i never know which one im doing. can someone confirm that this is throat and vibration and NOT vcb bc that's what i was going for
cause last time i thought i was doing vcb and i posted in here and got told i was actually doing vibration š
Thats throat bass and a rough vibration ya
Hi! Looking for help with identifying the different vocal basses I've been doing. Just wanna preface that i am a girl so the sound may not be as clear as guys, so I've been told lol. Found out my throat bass technique may have been wrong this whole time and I'm wondering if the technique I'm using for vibration bass should be the same for throat bass. (and also what kind of bass have i been doing before š). Appreciate the help, thank you!
Ok first one is chest bass
2nd one... I cant tell if its vibration or poly chest cause i know vibration can be weird for girls
Not bad weird
Different weird
It can sound way more harmonic
yea sometimes im getting multiple subharmonics(?)
Well vibration bass is naturally 3rd subharmonic
Only like 3 people including me can do it 4th subharmonic consistantly
Poly chest doesnt pay as much attention to the subharmonics
It can be whatever when ever due to it being 3 major oscillations
Unlike vibration which is 2 and one support
i feel like my technique is still kinda off, im pushing my throat up (???) too much and it sounds nasal if i vocalize it with my mouth rather than humming it
because you are a girl its expected, but also doesnt mean its not vibration
sounds like poly chest
Ya
yo wsp im new to bases are there any recos for the names of some basses that sounds cool i have done throat bass but i feel like i need more
Vibration ofc, tongue bass, liproll, clickroll, inward are the basic ones
Chest bass as well but if you have actually done throat bass chest id harder
thank you
i have learnt liproll and clickroll and inward
Theres a couple low trumpets
Theres chest voice trumpet (can also be called trumbone or saxophone), then chest bass or throat bass trumpet
Which one spacifically
I think its inward? Idk hippy is rarely on my list
@narrow pike i think this is more your turf, i can explain shield poly but not hippy cause hippie is weird
honestly not exactly sure, I think the one darklight is reffering to is actually different after all
i agree it sounds inward and i can get something that sounds at least vaguely reminiscent but its so hard to do and not fall into fry vus of how low it is so i cant even say that for sure
I've tried lowering a regular inward high poly, yet it always falls to vocal fry, how'd you manage?
I wonder if match would be good to look at, he does alot of inward poly textures maybe it has a hint to help?
normal inward vocalization and trying to add second tone but that part ends up in fry but sounds close in timbre apart from being fry
ears can be deceiving tho it doesnt 100% mean im actually close
idk match is like barely poly, basically just glorified inward fry icl
Sounds like my inward poly at times, inward poly can really sound like inward fry with some textures
It gets messy
Like i do river inward poly, super strained and easiest to do after a k snare
yeah hes right, getting it away from being a vocal fry is annoying
honestly i havent put that much thought into it, it seems like a neat trick or cool sound if youre the inventor but texture wise imo all other polies are superior
except if you for some reason really need an inward chest voice poly but use cases seem even rarer than for normal polies
I use inward poly for inward bass sometimes and i love it
Besides that... the pain and lack of poly isnt worth it
I just like the tone of hippies compared to most other low polys
fr?
Yeah, the high tone and the low tone are so nicely balanced
i find it sounds like in a game if youre talking to some npc and pick a dialogue option that negatively impacts your relationship with them
oddly specific but i cant get it put of my head lol
ngl thats a good explaination
what it sound like
Only time i can get a far high and low tone besides falsetto basses is like my shield poly + falsetto or falsetto poly + chest voice (varies on how im feeling)
Trying to cut a vid down
Surprisingly no, i mean like if sub was able to hit high poly + low poly
Its not impossible
It can be annoying, and litterally will never sound good
Cause you throw almost all harmony out the window for a party trick
Quadpoly is also quite bad, yhe more layers you add the more boat horn it becomes
Which is the high + low
But ya pretty damn sure its what im doin
About as much of a party trick as falsetto fry sub
Atleast falsetto fry sub you can get to sound somewhat cool at times..
bruh im boutta crash out server ate my paragraph cus i swore out of reflex
phone so ass
id be interested to hear in the morning tho
its 9 am rn so i should prob get at least a little sleep
Its 12pm for me so i cant record lol
I know theres a recording SOMEWHERE in bbbxc cause dark was curious
Hello! I want to start learning inward bass.. I learned throat bass pretty fast (Maybe less then a day) so could u make a small "tutorial" of sorts for inward bass?

Well, it would be easiest to learn chest or evil bass first
any ways to improve inward chest bass?
i turn my head like 85* to the left to get better sounding
(There isnt exacyly a short tutorial if you only have throat AND you just learned it)
You sure its inward chest?
Sounds more like vocodahs inward when you do it nasally
I do chest bass and switch to inwards
So pretty sure there is no way that i can mess up
And what the hell is vocodahs inwards bass
vocodahs texture of inward
which most inward basses are inward evil
inward chest is pretty uncommon, only really den does it fully
for big names
thats a normal method
however, it usually yeilds normal inward which is inward evil
due to anatomy and how muscles interact with inward breathing
you need to purpousfully do inward chest, its not exactly a natural or convenient sound
So if i switch from chest bass to inward then i will get evil inward?
inward evil ya
evil inward is a spacific texture, but inward evil is an inward rattle of the arytenoids
So ima stick with inward evil for now, how do i improve it?
try to change tongue positions, and maybe more air
I am using already a lot of air that i can max do it for 4-5 seconds
more air and allways remember inward is above your vocal chords
so adjust positions and tightness around there
Btw can someone do inward chest bass?
Cause even tutorials on yt do evil inward while trying to do inward chest
dens is the main example, big thing is he adds vocal fry under it but it is inward chest bass
ya, its a thing noticed semi recently, now its a misconception that inward is just inward chest and vice versa
tbh if you use a sound to get another sound, it doesnt mean its the same sound family or muscle
just relitive
So what do i get when i do evil bass but on an inward
I get it
He does a fried chest bass inward right?
I don't understand what you meant by fried in that chart
Inward evil bass
Heck doing a super relaxed and low throat bass then hyperventilating with it even gets you inward evil
Any other of those is inconvenient and you need to purpousfully do it
(Ex. Inward chest and Inward throat bass)
This is how i got my inward
For me inward bass is routrine inward whilst whispering
I also have to tilt my head to the side a bit
Routrine inward makes no sense unless you are doing inward uvula-
Well Its not chest bass i can say that
and its certainly not evil
but its in the throat
Maybe zombie?
Maybe
Cause inward uvula is VERY different from any inward bass
Lemme try smth
Zombie bass done inward can get you inward bass tho, and it some extremes you can gey inward zombie bass
Yup sounds like zombie
And the texture of your inward makes sense cause zombie bass done inward typically gives you locked inward
Yup, its epiglottis
also, question
Do you count wawads double bass thing as a seperate bass or not?
from the arguement with remixes 34 basses vid
Hmm, double basses are where it gets interesting
True double basses like double chest and double tongue bass are their own basses
BUT it gets iffy for A bass + B bass
So like liproll + clickroll isnt its own bass, but clickroll + inward bass is (liquid bass)
And speaking about inward, I've heard from other sources about how to do Kingdom's sorta baby inward bass technique
But I don't understand HOW he does it
It's something to do with high inward bass rattling the uvula and opening and closing the throat really fast
Openinf and closinf the throat fast tho.... only thing i can think of is diaphragm stutters, but thats an outward technique
I cant think of any technique like that inward besides just cancling breathing
For an inward laugh
I also know he does a filter position usually whilst pronouncing J and Yul inward.
Alg
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(Extending on this, routrine bass is its own bass though its just nasal uvula + throat bass, but oral uvula + throat bass isnt, alot is based on popularity)
how to recorder stuff and on discord like you doin here?
record, not flute
So how to make my evil inward bass to dlows inward bass
How exactly tongue is possitioned to push down epiglottis?
Ye
where in the throat is the inward bass but in the swallowing position placed and is dlows inward the same thing? like how it work
Ahhh okay
I really like your diagram of the basses are there any more of those anything to do with beatbox
theres like one other chest bass diagram but i havnt had the motivation to make more
Can you help me with the throat bass cuz I'm having a hard time doing it
I can do inward and chest bass but I can't do throat bass
Is vibration bass just throat bass + vocal fry or is that a myth?
no, its a throat but with more pression and more constipated voice
like a throat + jayton voice
Whatās a Jayson voice
a constipated voice
quick question
how do you tell between vibration bass and vcb
so ill upload a recording
i did note the post on it like a month back but
Hmm, learn constricted singing
Vcb is very round and bubbly, while vibration is sharp and sounds like it hurts
Ya thats a myth, the opinion on what vibration actually is is a bit divided in the bass community, but my opinion is its perfect 5th throat bass + aryepiglottic folds
Which you get from throat bass + constricted singing/jayton MOST of time
Which is arguably harder to achieve between vibration bass and inward bass?
hmm
inward
vibration is harder to master and get useable
but inward is harder to get
it does depend tho
if you are good at chest or throat
if you are good at chest bass, vibration is way harder than inward purely for the fact of the throat bass
for me it's the opposite lol
im rly bad at chest bass but my inward is miles better than vibration
ugh why doesnt this server allow swearing
bro they dont even vibrate when I do vibration bass š
legit just still
trust the aryepiglottics are a fraud
fr
Well, in the case of learning yhe sounds, which was easier, inward or vibration
Again vibration is way harder to master lol
tbh they're around the same difficulty to obtain at first
Huh, idk ivr seen inward bass issues more than vibration
Espesh from how easy it is to do vibration by accident
Vocal folds:
- Fry subharmonic
- Shield poly
- Inward fry
- Double inward fry
False folds:
5. Throat bass
6. Falsetto throat bass
Vibration:
7. Vibration bass
8. Falsetto vibration bass
9. Space Bass
10. Boas bass
Cuneiforms:
Sizzler bass
Arytenoid:
11. Evil bass
High Evil bass
12. Inward bass
13. Vocalized Inward bass
14. Double inward bass
Epiglottis:
15. Zombie bass
Uvula:
16. Uvula bass
17. Vocal Uvula bass
18. Falsetto Vocal Uvula bass
19. Double Vocal Uvula bass
20. Evil Uvula bass
21. Nasal Uvula bass
22. Pig bass
23. Nasal Vocal Uvula bass
24. Evil nasal uvula bass
25. Outward Snore bass
26. Inward uvula bass
27. Inward nasal uvula bass
28. Inward snore bass
29. Inward evil uvula bass
Tongue.
30. Middle tongue bass
31. Primal Fear Tongue bass
32. Heavy tongue bass
33. Closed teeth middle tongue bass
34. Vocalized Middle tongue bass
35. True Overtone tongue bass
36. Drill bass
37. Out of the mouth tongue bass
38. Middle clickroll
39. Vocalized clickroll
40. Side tongue bass
41. Closed mouth side tongue bass
42. Vocalized side tongue bass
43. Double tongue bass
44. Inward Tongue roll
Lips:
45. Lip bass
46. Lip buzz
47. Vocalized lip bass
48. Double lip bass
49. Smile bass
50. Side lip bass
51. Liproll
52. Liproll bass
53. Vocalized liproll
54. Punchy liproll(s)
55. 8 bit liproll
56. Cyclone liproll
57. Double liproll
58. Tooth roll
59. Vocalized tooth roll
60. Dlow Electro bass
61. SpaceG/outward electro bass
Ducks:
62. Duck sound
63. Vocalized duck sound
64. Zekka bass
Combo basses:
65. Routrine bass
66. Liquid Bass
67. Rolled lip buzz
68. Demon Tongue bass
69 (nice). Sudo Double clickroll
70. Wobbly liproll
H.M.:
Whistle Basses
Uvula + Throat bass
Inward + inward fry
Inward poly + inward
Airless lipbass
Low/sub singing
every bass i can do
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wat is this ????
Def inward poly... almost sounds like its inward poly and a hint of tooth whistle?
Rubber chicken aah sound
@narrow pike you hearin this?
That sounds so different
like is comes through so much cleaner then the other souns
sounds*
yea probably
I mean vocalized inward dipole stuff is super metallic
Actuallt idk... i just did it.. mind you my inward poly is eh
I mean the way he gasps for it explains how piercing it is
I almost wanna say it could be using inward laser instead cause the whistle is softer
Yes
But one is noticably louder than the other
The issue here with my recording is the tooth whistle is overpowering it
just depends on how its done, the sharp inhale is just easier for traditional inward tooth whistle
Ooo wait hol up i just did.a weird subharmonic of inward poly
its a fine balance but def possible and gaspable
What is it
Idk, I just found it
I was experimenting with routrine bass and pushed it in a certain way and got that
Nasal uvula bass + throat bass
Can you locate what I just did?
dis
It's more top of the throat, so i guess?
K
Theres also a bit of the vibration on the back-end on my tongue?
Could be a form of routrine bass, might be a fatter than normal throat bass
I did branch it off routrine
idk what i did
i tightened my throat and did smth else
That's cool keep experimenting papa
Oh yeah not really bass but I got inferapes bass+cheek whistle combo thing
The thing thats gwtting me is the modulation
whats that?
Might be juat from a fat throat bass, cpuld you try to do each part seperately?
k
thats the components
its such a fatty bass
ah thats why i couldnt match it, it was just constricted singing + nasal uvula
Yo spaceG I looked at the list that you typed could you perhaps help me learn primal fear tongue bass?
Cuz when I try I get this
I donāt think thatās exactly it?
Basically gotta be tighter
It wonāt let me watch it for some reason
I donāt have tik tok thatās probs why
Tighter in what area? Like the back of the tounge or front?
hello im trying to get the inward bass, but every time i get an inward fried bass. Have any suggestions?
Do you know chest bass or evil bass?
Yes
yo
i still need some help with basic inward evil bass
so i do it by inwarding chest bass and trying to get like crispy texture
and how should it sound like
cause altrough i hear mine as crispy, but when i record it and listen
it has kinda lame texture
of course if it is evil inward
when abouts did you learn it? cause its still gonna take time
tho try different throat positions, tongue positions, all that
like 6 days ago?
but i didin't practise a lot by that time
oh ya its gonna come with time lol
but it sounds right?
Is this vibration?
Ya, but very softly
Ya basically, add more throat bass or more constricted voice
Tysm manšš
i dont really know im doing slizzer bass and then i have no idea like randomly it just comes i really dont know
im just experimenting
and it came randomly
thats poly chest bass
but how
asymmetric cuneiforms vibrating in two different undertones of the vocalization
what.
Ya its double chest bass
Basically think of a horse shoe going around and into your throat, then imagine both the tips shaking/vibrating at the same speed
Now make one vibrate slower then the other
Thats poly chest
But instead of tips of a horseshoe, its your cuneiform tubicles oscillating
can yall help me with throat bass
u have two cuneiform cartilages, when u do chest bass, one of them vibrates
with poly chest both vibrates at the same time
so its 2 chest basses at different pitches at the same time
- ur voice
thats usually on kermit voice position on poly chest bass
Allrighty, lets get the baseline, do you allready have chest bass or do you have constricted singing
wait i think i can get like yeah 2 kinda versions of chest bass
i can do the normal one
and i can do another one thats slightly higher up in the throat
is that like true?
ye hold on
Someyimes higher pitches, espes with basses, can feel higher up
if poly chest slips in before he switching to the higher one he can be using the second cuneiform to the higher pitches
the same thing happens with me
Ye
ok
For my double inward its usually the automatic case
If i go high, theres a high chance the low slips in
that doesn't happens with my inward bass
(Whivh is annoying cause i use that same high texture to go into remix inward)
I can go super high with it and it doesn't slips into double inward
yeah i was thinking it sounds like it
just a little bit higher on pitch
wait but whats the other one
wdym
I thought chest was doing it on both cuneiforms syncronized but then you unsync for poly chest
nah
subz can do chest bass with both cuneiforms
like
one at a time
Ah
but its also harder to get HIGH with inward bass than with chest
u can hear that it happens to me
lol
I don't like that
fock my mic died on this audio
inward bass?
Ya
try to inhale chest bass
i can do the basic one
or hyperventilate with chest bass
can u do it with open mouth?
wait when i open mouth the sounds dont change
maybe ur just tighting it af
With especially inward evil uvula it can feel lower than usual
Due to how the nerves are
so how would i go with doing dlows inward
Like sometimes it can almost feel right above my epiglottis
I got it by trying the swallow position thing
Lock your epiglottis with your tongue
Aka push your tongue back into your throat
yeah that works too I think
im doing the swallow thing
Recently its semi been found that its seems close to an epiglottic slizzer roll? But idk how to explain that
try to lock ur epiglottis whiledoing normal inward
when I do that I slip into swallow inward
(if I don't have the urge to puke
how do you lock ur eppiglotis swallowing?
not while swallowing
When you swallow your epiglottis closes and your tongue moves back
but while doing regular inward bass
So its an automatic response
yeah
thats what i did in the first clip aswell
can u try to relax that vibration?
it really sounds like inward evil nasal uvula bass
and ur doing it nasally when u open ur mouth too
not orally
yeah i am but idk why cuz im doing like every tutorial ive seen
gotta eat so ill be back like 30 minutes
ok
nvm i eat in room
I will say, epiglottic slizzer roll can sound simular
But here i also hear the scratch of the nose
ill say im pretty sure theres nothing coming from the nose
it feels way below the nose area
ok maybe
but this is different since swallowing actually flips your epiglottis over, swallowing and locking arent the same thing
It feels like the same to me and i get simular results
it isnt period
locking wouldnt let food through, so the epiglottis folds down to some extent as well
so it dlows inward bass its own bass?
shouldnt be
Well if it uses a epiglottic slizzer bass, but has to have an underlayer to have that depth to it
combination of epiglottis position and tight inward but im not sure of the variation of inward bass it actually layers under the locked epiglottis
yea but tongue position is like rotated 90° for liquid bass, good luck doing that with your epiglottis
Liquid bass is a more broad term than that
Really liquid bass is just a term for a rolled inward with the tongue
So most types of clickroll are fair game
Alot of people use inward OD (like tomaz and bart), and others use slizzer roll (remix)
if thats your definition then ok but I dont consider slizzer roll to be a click roll in the sense of more traditional techniques
Thats the community definition lol
I dont count zekka bass as a clickroll variant but here we are lol
I mean ive heard the uncs call slizzer roll sucker punch roll which I kinda agree with
Never heard that
the biggest difference is just how the airflow is chopped up
Dlows slizzer is honestly one of my favs
I still cant get a propper slizzer roll
Its usually too tight and fast, or i accidentally use uvula cause of my tongue shape
but whatever the definitions may be the tongue analogies do work just as long as you clearly state what you actually mean with that
get the tongue droop down
what it even sound like
(Anothrr issue is idk whrte im doing the slizzer roll in the right spot, cause i do suckerpunches from my teeth to the middle of.my hard pallet)
ima need an example cus what
middle of the hard palate?
bro on the wrong continent
alveolar ridge
slizzer roll slightly begind alveolar ridge, try different air pressures different tongue droop down strengths
the whole shebang
Almost getting it now
Its probs gonna be one of those sounds thst sorts click with me at 3am
Thats how i finally got my "poh" lol, 3am, i tried it, and got the sound
always killed my lungs with the inhale pressure but then figured out the tongue part randomly
The hard part is to not create a vacuum further back for me lol
Cause if i do thst, my tongue suctions to the top of my mouth and no more inhaling
so how do i do slizzer roll but out of my mouth
like how ice does
he literally spams it
I havnt seen it tbh, i dont enjoy ice
well you should check it out eventually
maybe
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@fervent crow (or anybody else) - Im aware that some vibro basses can sound different from person to person (texture-wise especially), and Im wondering what kind of vibro bass mine sounds like if that makes sense?
I've got two kinds if that makes sense (unless these are just different pithces)
Reminds me of inertias
yo
how long did it take yall to learn inward bass
i mean not just to make that noise, but like to get the good texture of it and do it for longer time
and how many people actually help themselves by turning their head sum direction
@fervent crow ?
Took me... 3 months? Maybe more?
3-4 months is the average for most basses
Alot
It stretches your larynx in certain ways
and for how long can you hold it?
Still uvula
The start no, but the end was 100% uvula
I kinda dont ubderstand the idea of swallow thing
Cause for sure it aint dlow inward bass
Its too relaxed
Could someone explain exactly how to push that thing down with your tongue?
its hard to explain outside of you just do lol
like it does just feel like pushing your tongue into your throat
It really just feels like the back of ur tongue goes down into ur throat
Kinda similar to when u do a supper exaggerated kermit voice
pretty sure thats against lips and cheek in some way
Can someone help me figure out what the hell I just did?
I used a corner out my mouth outwards and then tongue bass but it sounded weird
Cuz I formally do it and get a more dubstep kinda bass but I got this this time
This is the sound I normally get
I was kinda myssing qround with inward bass
Does anyone know the name of it?
And could someone like list or inward bass familly?
this sum vocal fry and inward or what
What is starsky bass? Is it just outwards vocalized snore bass and you have your lips positioned like you're doing the synth one-shot?
idk thats also what i think it is but i have no idea
like the vibration is around the nose area
or it could be uvula stuff
Im doing it?
Anyone??
Vocalized uvula bass, snore bass is when you do uvula through your mouth and nose at the same time, but starsky bass you just do it through yhe mouth
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I needa grab my headphones here
Sounds more correct
Actually reminds me of remix, which is a form of locked inward
Damnn
So i be just speedruning basses
Btw what the diffrience between stressed inward bass and evil uvula inward bass
sonuds more correct
stressed inward bass?
what even is that?
inward evil uvula bass is made with ur uvula
similar to max's bass but inhaled
dlow inward bass is arytenoids rattle inhaled
with epiglottis on a locked posture
thats the difference
Kk
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@fervent crow is shield doing it at 2nd undertone actually?
Ya
the way your larynx protrudes makes me think its something with a locked epiglottis, judging from you being able to get close to ervinhos bass id say probably locked inward chest
what's the difference between throat bass and vibration bass?
This is still where me and iks... disagree
But essentually they are two different basses on different muscles
Throat bass is false folds
And vibration primarily happens on EITHER the aryepiglottic folds OR the cuneiforms (depending if you are with iks or me in thoughts lol)
Vibration uses a form of throat bass as an aspect of it, but not normal throat bass
hmm
Is there no footage of somebody doing vibration bass vs throat bass with a camera looking at the two parts of the throat?
Iks has looked down his throat, but thetes no concrete evidence, vibration isnt a specialty of kindreds and 1 trained person isnt enough evidence tbh
I needa get a camera down my throat to get my full opinion
But its hard to find good ones
I mean theres multiple ways to get a vibration sounding bass, however none seem to need the aryepiglottic folds
for me my cuneiforms start vibrating once I go from throat into classical vibration
for kindred it seems to be similar
I usually just use mouth filters for variations of basses
tho not needed doesnt mean they dont do anything at all, they can vibrate but it just doesnt seem they have an impact truly
bruh hell naw
I mean some tongue and soft palate positions can be good but like lip and cheeks are odd
It works for me i guess
how i got my monster vibration thingy
tongue position can actually change larynx positioning so thats easily the most usefull but everything else filtery just changes resonance and not the base technique youre doing
Yeah
For me it makes a small difference but
Anyone know what this bass is? It feels like my chest bass, but inward with a small margin for vocal overlap
it's not
It's a variation of evil bass
But idk what u should do specifically to make it
Also, if ur referring to the bass remix call "cipher demon bass" on his video, the bass he is doing is not the same as the actual bass cipher uses
Remix's bass that he calls like that is probably some variation of zombie bass
His vocalized chest bass, evil bass, cipher demon bass and or thing I forgot the name are the same exact bass with little difference in raspiness, tightness, etc
Also his "evil bass" is so off from actual evil bass that it's kinda annoying
I never do inward chest and it was difficult to get at first (dont usually practice my chest bass) - could just be that I need to make it more consistent and it'll build dynamic over time
what is vomit bass
i cannot figure out how the heck you get the epiglottis itself to move without
choking yourself 7 ways to hell
I have a question about vocalized chest bass. How do you successfully add the vocalization ontop of the chest bass itself? I always lose the chest and move to throat or vibration automatically. Would love any tips if you have them
Never heard of it, so likely you got tricked by someone
The goal is to stay relaxed i beleive
Dont tighten
Also make sure you can do kermit voice causw it helps alot
But dont constrict your voice while doing it, really ita more adding chest bass ontop of your voice
I'm either getting a hybrid of both types or just a low pitch on the chest bass
I'm not sure, it does sound good so I might develop it
You mean the one routrine does?
I csnt think of anything for that besides zombie bass
I guess i just dont watch routrine cause i only know him for routrine bass
People call routrine's bass vomit bass for some reason
Weird
kindred calls whatever he does vomit bass
that what i was referring to
wait no
wrong clip
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Unrelated to epiglottis then
Tilt your epiglottis and exhale heavily super relaxed
Helps to add chest bass
But hyper relaxed lots of air
i know nothing but this sounds kinda diffrient from dlows
how u do that
i go first with evil inward bass
and I do something with my tongue that the back of it kinda pushes down to my throat and thats it
not that the tongue covers the entire throat
slighty
So locked
not exactly beatboxing here
but is there a name for this?
i like how it sounds
the bass i mean
vibration bass
Is this anything special or just a throat bass variant?
I'm pretty new to vocal effects in beatboxing, I've always been more of a percussionist. I'm just now getting the throat bass. I posted this video on Reddit asking if it was throat bass and they said yes but that I need to push it harder, more tension or more/less air. Any advice based off of this audio?
More tension, addimg more voice helps
Train constricted singing
Which is this
Helps with that clearer throat bass
Thank you!
might be completely wrong here but is crythix bass like a poly chest bass?
thats what it sounds like tome
or at least when i do it it sounds close
thats exactly what i was thinking
ye it is
yes
I mightāve sent this in the wrong chat, I just want to know the origin of this bass! I believe this is a variation of Exallosās bass used in smother. Just wondering on some insight, Iāve used this for about 2 years now
one might say space bass is a variation of exallos bass
Nahhhh lol (tho by definition they arw variations of eachother in a way, but space bass came first frfr)
Hmm, cause Iām curious where your bass comes from, it sounds like stretched falsetto version of the vibration, which the version Iām doing is closer to a layer on top of throat bass. Similar to Ervinhoās bass
I can do the layers separately, I use it singing sometimes
Mine uses no falsetto
Just high chest voice
And its actual legal name is unsyncronized vibration
Where the bass becomes overal a major third harmony rather than the typical octave and a fith
Ervhinos bass also has nothing to do with throat bass lol
No, but itās a layer on top of chest bass, you can hear the fusion in the video when he fails to reach it in āSay Itā
But thatās interesting, I guess I donāt really understand what goes on in the mouth. But I understand the basic concept of the layers
Ye
Vibration also is allready kinda adding something ontop of throat bass, ofc when you do it the throat bass turns into a perfect 5th
From the voice
You can also do throat bass + vibration bass because of that
Makes it more full but the position is awkward and uncomfortable for the throat
Space bass is unrelated to it
Or to that technique, its directly relatwd to vibration
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Hmm, well maybe I donāt fully get vibration then. Because I understood it as a vocal fry and throat bass meet from Indicatorās video
Nah, indicator honestly knows jack all about basses lol
Like how he explained alien bass almost was as far as you could get, besides it being a fry technique
I like the texture of yours, very breathy. I think I get it a little more, thanks!
Vibration is a 3 part bass, voice, false folds at a 5th below the voice, and (debated between us until i get a camera down my throat, others say its cuneiforms drumming against the epiglottis, i beleive its aryepiglottic folds) aryepiglottic folds at a full octave and a 5th below the voice
I worked hard to get it to sound simular to crythix bass lol
Itās nice to hear other textures as well, I havenāt heard anyone until Exallos. Much love to Exallos, but I prefer not to stress the sound, especially because I use the sound to sing covers a lot
Plus, two years now itās crazy to know what Iāve been doing
I think itās the same as inward bass, different textures, different names get attached you know? I love to hear the sound used though, people usually donāt enjoy it. I love to hear it in different styles
Much love, thank you again!
Yeye
I noticed alot of people like my version unless thry are really spacific about sounds needing to be harmonic
Personally i dislike exallos' texture
I think itās the stress level, yours is stressing what you call unsynchronized throat bass, while Exallos feels almost strained entirely. I tried to relax the sound to the fullest for combos and singing
For my case, its very constricted
Just a very constricted and high vibration bass to unsyncronize it
Exallos claims he does his with fry distortion, but further testing is required
Hm, I thought I could do it if I strained the sound. He stresses the ng vowel so I attempted it with the same bass I have so it seemed similar
Maybe thatās just my battle brain
Ye
Any tips on how to pitch an inwards bass?
Ooh, also, any tips on how to lower the pitch of unsynchronized vibration?
Hmm, its a casw of learning how to constrict the inward and how to loosen it, generallt it comes with time
Eeeh, generally doing a lower pitch voice gets you there, but it works much less and is more inconsistant than high
Thatās fair, I think that the consistency of it is the part Iām practicing lol. Thanks again!
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