Offering help with bass stuff

[stuck stump]

I lowkey don’t know what that means

[random tundra]

How do u do it

[stuck stump]

Ohhh

Ok

I see

[random tundra]

It's breathing thought the nose and mouth at the same time

[stuck stump]

Is it one of those things that people can just do easier naturally

[fervent crow]

you allow the sound to go through both the nose and mouth at the same time, instead of blocking it

[random tundra]

So the sound comes out thought at the same time

[random tundra]

Yea but like

How

[fervent crow]

form of throwing your voice technically

[wooden cedar]

how so?

[fervent crow]

well, projection alone is the baseline of throwing your voice

[stuck stump]

Oh I can do that

[fervent crow]

practically the same thing

[stuck stump]

Atleast I think

Cause I feel air coming out of both

[fervent crow]

dual projection, is you find a middle ground, between oral and nasal, and throw your voice in a way to that spot

for me

i imagine and almost make it so my voice is going to more where my mustache is

[random tundra]

How should I know if I got it or not

[fervent crow]

if your overtones become intense

[random tundra]

HMMMMMM

[stuck stump]

Why when I try to do it with a throat bass it sounds like the horn on like a cruise ship 😭

[random tundra]

Ur tongue position changes too much?

[fervent crow]

and your sound louder, espesh know if your sound both sounds super vocalized, but also its texture comes through more (when you do it orally, typically your voice comes through more and you lose a bit of texture, and nasally the opposite), dual projection is to help enhance both

[wooden cedar]

nasal placement yes, not out of the nose necessarily?

[stuck stump]

Idk

[wooden cedar]

like w singing, forward sound

?

[fervent crow]

not really, its still out the nose, and the mouth, at the same time, you just allow the sound waves to go through both

[stuck stump]

I have read user terms and agreements

[fervent crow]

rather than closing your mouth/ blocking with tongue, you push it through both

[wooden cedar]

push through both?

[random tundra]

Oh the overtones really change

[fervent crow]

overtone singing is practically a lessened version of it, where you do your voice nasally, then let a small amount of the soundwaves travel bast your tongue

and out your mouth

[stuck stump]

We going to Mongolia with this one 🔥

[random tundra]

Yeah that's what I was thinking u said about the overtones

When I do it i feel part of the sound going more nasally

I can even do overtones with full mouth closed

[fervent crow]

people like me and codfish do it for vibration to get it louder without losing its texture

[fervent crow]

yes, thats good

[random tundra]

But that happens only when I do khoomei

Which is a throat singing technique

Can't do that with throat bass or other sounds

That sucks

[fervent crow]

ah lol

[stuck stump]

Can I hesr

Idk what that is

[wooden cedar]

oh so in a nutshell allow the waves out both mouth and nose? w nuance

[fervent crow]

ya

[wooden cedar]

oh thats not hard? i was confused lol

[random tundra]

I can do it with normal voice too

[wooden cedar]

over complicated that way too much

[fervent crow]

no lol, never said it was hard

i was explaining exactly it

how cool its explained or how cool it sounds on paper doesnt mean its hard

[random tundra]

Maybe if I get the position where I hit the overtones nasally and really memorize it, I'm gonna be able to do it

[random tundra]

Ye

[wooden cedar]

carlos was making it sound like it was at least in my interpretation

[fervent crow]

yup!

oooh lol

ya carlos havin a skill issue- lmfao jkjk

[random tundra]

(Only when hitting overtones

[random tundra]

BRROOOOOOO

But I can do chest bass

LMAO

[fervent crow]

i recently learned a good nasally throat bass technique, just to get boas bass lol

[stuck stump]

💀💀

[fervent crow]

ya well, i can do many sounds of most bass families but chest basses-

lol

[random tundra]

Yk I'm joking

[fervent crow]

same lol

we have our own specialtys

[stuck stump]

Wait u can’t do any form of chest bass

[random tundra]

Ye

[fervent crow]

nope!

been tryin for years

not a sound i can get

[random tundra]

He's 100% immune to chest bass

[stuck stump]

What about just like the normal unvocalized chest bass

[fervent crow]

when i stick a camera down my throat, i will try my best

[fervent crow]

nope

zero

[stuck stump]

Oh

[fervent crow]

i can do a bit of the throat bass family, the vibration bass family, the evil bass family, zombie bass (the unmarried no kids uncle), 95% of the uvula bass family, 90% of the tongue bass family, and 90% of the lip bass family

[stuck stump]

Have you tried doing the throat clearing method but instead of like using ur voice u just whisper

[fervent crow]

i get evil bass

[stuck stump]

That’s weirrddddd

[fervent crow]

loose evil bass to be presise

so it sounds like chest

but cannot get as low or bassy as it

[stuck stump]

Damn

[stuck stump]

I see

[wooden cedar]

what is considered low w chest bass

[random tundra]

Aaaan

Low

Just low

[fervent crow]

ya like, theres no bounds lol

[random tundra]

Ye

[fervent crow]

you can get as low as you want with training

[stuck stump]

Bro gonna blow out a speaker

[fervent crow]

welllll

[random tundra]

Chest bass can go as low as u want almost lol

[fervent crow]

not really

low chest bass is fun cause its completely unusable on stage

super precise

[stuck stump]

Aw man

[fervent crow]

and so much air that completely drowns out all the texture and bass

[stuck stump]

I see

[wooden cedar]

fr? i mean like Ive been training it for 6 months and can’t go lower than like an Ab1 normally

[stuck stump]

Noisy air sounds

[fervent crow]

the fact you are in the 1

says alot

lol

i feel below g2 is considerably low

[stuck stump]

How do I see lkle

How low it is

I feel like using the mic on my phone wouldn’t be like

100% accurate

Right

[wooden cedar]

really??? singing below g2 is really easy though, isnt that low in my experience

[fervent crow]

im not just saying that cause my lowest vocal pitch is D#2

generally thats low voice

[random tundra]

With chest bass

I think it's normal

[fervent crow]

true

[random tundra]

My chest bass is also on thee B1 area

Chest is by default a low sound because it is on 2nd undertone

[stuck stump]

Anyways what is a good app for measuring the pitch

You do guys recommend

[random tundra]

Idk I use a random guitar tuner

[stuck stump]

I mean I would get on my pc but like

[random tundra]

To tune my guitars

[stuck stump]

I don’t have access tn

Rn

[stuck stump]

Guitartuna 😭

[random tundra]

And sometimes it works with vocal stuff too

[stuck stump]

Or maybe it’s another one

[random tundra]

Idk what it is

It's one that has a metronome on it too

[stuck stump]

I remember I was trying to tune my voice to a guitar LOL

[random tundra]

I do that a lot

[stuck stump]

I think most tuning apps do

Atleast for guitar

[fervent crow]

when vocalized

voiceless tho

[stuck stump]

Nice

[random tundra]

I practice my throat bass pitching with my guitar

And other stuff

Works really well so u can match pitch

And be more precise with it

[random tundra]

Ye

3rd undertone is even lower

[fervent crow]

that is how that works

unless

[random tundra]

Ye

[fervent crow]

you adjust your voices pitch higher

then its the same pitch

lol

[random tundra]

Ye ye

[fervent crow]

thats a fun effect

[random tundra]

I've been trying to get 3rd undertone chest

But it doesn't work like in vibration lol

I ill need to find another tactic to get it

[stuck stump]

Mhm

I feel like it works well with a piano too

[random tundra]

Ye

Piano is even better because of the bigger range

[fervent crow]

and somewhat difficult tbh, typically lowering both is the normal habit people have, then with training prefurably you can lower the basses pitch and keep the same voice pitch, then you can train keeping the basses pitch the same and raising the voice to go down, but thats super hard

[random tundra]

Ye I only can do that with lip bass

Which I think it's the easiest one to do it

I can go from 1st to 2nd undertone without changing the lip bass note

[fervent crow]

ya

[random tundra]

Just going down with voice

[fervent crow]

(up)

[random tundra]

Aaaaah

So I don't think it's 2nd undertone actually lmao

Because I'm going down

Maybe it's a 5th interval lip osc

[fervent crow]

that would be lip buzz if any

[random tundra]

Yeye

[fervent crow]

like a lowered lip buzz

[random tundra]

I always confuse these names

[fervent crow]

cause lip buzz is practically like constricted singing on the lips

[random tundra]

Ye

That's what I do

[fervent crow]

ye

[stuck stump]

Mmm b4

What does that mean

💀

[fervent crow]

the note B on the 4th octave

[stuck stump]

Ohh

I think that’s pretty low right

[random tundra]

Kinda hard to get on mic

[fervent crow]

opposite

[random tundra]

Nop

[fervent crow]

lol

[stuck stump]

Or is that

[fervent crow]

thats pretty high

[stuck stump]

High

[fervent crow]

well

[stuck stump]

Oh

[fervent crow]

technically halfway

[stuck stump]

💀

[fervent crow]

or no

3 is halfway

[random tundra]

That's higher than my normal speaking range

Ngl

[fervent crow]

my normal speaking range is A2 - D3

[stuck stump]

But

The tuner app

Said my chest has

Bass

Was b4

[fervent crow]

its probs picking up the air

[stuck stump]

💀

Oh

Fair

[random tundra]

Maybe it captured an overtone

[random tundra]

Ye

Or just air

[fervent crow]

if its unvoclazed, would next to not even be one

[random tundra]

Yeah lol

[stuck stump]

What about

E1

[random tundra]

BTW if find really hard to get overtones with chest bass

[fervent crow]

very low

[random tundra]

Only can get it vocalized with falsetto 100% nasally

[random tundra]

That's low

[fervent crow]

ooh overtone singing?

[stuck stump]

Is the lowest octave just 0

[fervent crow]

or just overtones

[fervent crow]

C0

[stuck stump]

I see

[random tundra]

Getting proper notes on the overtones

[fervent crow]

a pitch only elephants theoretically can hear

[random tundra]

Holding it

[fervent crow]

ah, overtone singing yup

was bouta say

[stuck stump]

Idk when I do chest bass it keeps jumping from b4 to e1 😭

[random tundra]

Lmao

[fervent crow]

vocalized chest bass explodes in overtones lol

[random tundra]

Lmao

With slizzer bass I van get it really.easily

[fervent crow]

makes sense

overtone singing is quite reliant on tongue position

[stuck stump]

This tuner app is really cool

[random tundra]

It's waaay easier than throat bass

[stuck stump]

It can even tune my fan

💀

[random tundra]

I actually suck at doing overtone singing with throat bass

[stuck stump]

Can you also do throat bass

[random tundra]

Ye

[stuck stump]

Oh

I thought you two were like opposite LOL

One really good at throat one really good at chest

[random tundra]

Not quite

I can do some throat bass stuff

[stuck stump]

Nice

[random tundra]

But my thing is more on chest bass and inward bass

[stuck stump]

How can I tell wether I’m doing throat bass or vocalized chest bass

[random tundra]

So

Throat bass feels sharp af

[stuck stump]

Cause to me it sounds like throat bass but it’s like

[random tundra]

While chest is round

[stuck stump]

It does feel sharp

[random tundra]

And kinda wet depending on how u do it

[random tundra]

Maybe ur doing slizzer bass

[stuck stump]

But I feel like some chest bass textures

Can also sound like that

[random tundra]

Can u send an audio of it?

[stuck stump]

Ok

[fervent crow]

im really good at throat and hes really good at chest, doesnt mean he cant do both lol

[stuck stump]

This is pretty loose tho I can do tighter and it sounds sharper I think

[stuck stump]

Damn I wanna learn

Overtone singing

[stuck stump]

@random tundra

[random tundra]

Ye

[random tundra]

I think that's slizzer bass

Sounds round

[random tundra]

Normal overtone singing is easy

The real thing is throat singing techniques

Thats were the things starts to get gooooood

[stuck stump]

I still don’t really know what either is supposed to feel like 😭

Wait how is slizzer bass different from throat bass

Like

In terms of

[random tundra]

So

[stuck stump]

How you achieve it

[fervent crow]

hard to tell what my lowest bass it cause im tempted to beleive my tuning app doesnt like going past F1

[random tundra]

Slixzer bass is made by the same muscle as chest bass

[random tundra]

That sucks

[random tundra]

The cuneiform cartilages

And throat bass is made by the false folds

[fervent crow]

like my fry sub and vocal bass went down to f1, and my inward

[random tundra]

Both at the 1st undertone

[fervent crow]

cuneiform tubicles axtually

[stuck stump]

Wait

Mb

Typo

I meant

Different from

Vcb

[random tundra]

( @fervent crow am I right? lol

[random tundra]

So

[fervent crow]

yes

[random tundra]

Ah ok nice

[random tundra]

Vcb is usually at 2nd undertone, which is an octave and a 5th interval to the fundamental note made by the voice

On slizzer bass

It's on 1st undertone, which is an octave lower than the fundamental note made by the voice

Which is the same interval as throat bass

That's why people gets confused between both

[fervent crow]

same reason people thing vcb is vibration bass and vice versa

[random tundra]

Yep

[fervent crow]

cause they are both naturally 2nd undertone

[random tundra]

U can think like

Slizzer being the throat bass equivalent of chest bass

[stuck stump]

Mmmm

If I go really low with that slizzer bass

And relax a lot

It starts sounding almost like vibration bass

Is that actually just

Vcb

[random tundra]

Or u get baboon bass or vcb

[fervent crow]

ya

[random tundra]

Then it's vcb

[fervent crow]

you either get a low baboon or VCB when you do those steps

[random tundra]

Ye

[stuck stump]

Baboon bass? 😭

[fervent crow]

depends on if you lower your voices pitch or just the cuneiforms

[fervent crow]

den and vinos bass

[stuck stump]

Beatbox naming convention be wildin

[fervent crow]

the bmwoaw

[stuck stump]

Ohhhh

[random tundra]

Ye, goofy name, I know

[fervent crow]

named after the beatboxer baboon

[stuck stump]

Ohhh

[fervent crow]

who originated the sound and taught it to vino who taught it to den

[random tundra]

It's a loose slizzer bass

[stuck stump]

I thought it was supposed to be like monkey sound or smth 💀

[random tundra]

Like loose throat bass

But with slizzer bass

Sounds good af ngl

[random tundra]

Try to relax it and put a little bit of more breath on it

U should get 2nd undertone chest bass

[fervent crow]

you have monkey bass for that :)

[stuck stump]

Can I hear

[random tundra]

I can't do it lmao

[stuck stump]

Mmmm

[random tundra]

I can go low with slizzer bass

[stuck stump]

Can you send like a video clip idk

[random tundra]

But I can get it loose

[stuck stump]

Is there a beatboxer named monkey

[fervent crow]

just listen to dens gbb21 wildcard lol

[random tundra]

I will send it

With the timestamp

[fervent crow]

when he does the bmwow nenenuma bmwow

[fervent crow]

no its infurnapes sound

basically a super low undertone of fasletto uvula bass

[random tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQXi07zSX0E&t=36 @stuck stump 00:38

[random tundra]

Lmao I actually can hear this on my head

[fervent crow]

https://youtu.be/kVaiWk7H7n0?t=38

[stuck stump]

This is baboon bass?

[random tundra]

Ye

[stuck stump]

I guess I don’t really have much experience with beatbox so it just sounds like vcb to me 😭

[random tundra]

This is a better example actuallt

[fervent crow]

ya

[stuck stump]

Ooooo

[stuck stump]

Ok now I’m interested in this what

Monkey bass as in like the stereotypical monkey sound like “oo oo oo ah ah ah”

[random tundra]

LMAO

[fervent crow]

not really? more like a demon monke screaming?

its name is... weirdly fitting tbh

[stuck stump]

😭

Demon monkey screaming

That’s

Terrifying

[random tundra]

Ye its more like screaming through uvula bass

[stuck stump]

😭

Can I hear

[fervent crow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Tu3D6mwnucA?si=LdXeCxjmectxSpH1

[stuck stump]

Like a dubstep high pitched bass?

[fervent crow]

not overtly high

[stuck stump]

Damnnn

That sounds super cool

[fervent crow]

not like my super high falsetto uvula bass

[random tundra]

Ye it's a cool.soind

[stuck stump]

But I can see how if that was used for the screaming of a demon monkey it could be terrifying 💀

[stuck stump]

How high

[fervent crow]

on some sounds i can get a couple notes higher

[random tundra]

I can get into whistle register with lip rolls idk how

[fervent crow]

makes sense

[random tundra]

But I can't get high my normal voice

That's weird af

[random tundra]

Why

[wooden cedar]

C4 is middle C, 4th octave is middle

[fervent crow]

i can go high with most of my basses with that voice, besides any inward basses (cause i cant do the voice inwards)

[fervent crow]

oh true, my math was wrong

well, or is it, vsauce, micheal here

so

[random tundra]

LMAO

[fervent crow]

if we start at C1, then yes, 4 would be, BUT, we add zero into the equation

[stuck stump]

It’s practically the same sound 😭

[random tundra]

Isn't C4 middle C because it's on the middle of a piano?

[wooden cedar]

I fluctuate between Eb2-A2 usually, when im sick it drops another few notes
its great for choir, my lowest singing note w modal voice is usually around about B1 or so

[random tundra]

Or I'm speaking bs

[random tundra]

DAMN B1 IS CRAZY

[wooden cedar]

no, C1 is the lowest C on the piano, so it is 4

C0 is below the piano

[random tundra]

Ye that's true

[fervent crow]

ya, and im talking about actual pitches, where 0 is a registered pitch, but its below audibility

sorry octave

0-7

[wooden cedar]

ah

[stuck stump]

@fervent crow how can your voice go so high 😭

I wonder if girls will make insane dubstep high pitched basses

Since they have a naturally higher voice

[random tundra]

Lol probably

Maybe if mix it with chest bass

Or uvula

[stuck stump]

Ye

POV: ur girlfriends ear piercing scream but with BASS

[fervent crow]

well, ok, this might actually be like range of normal pitches

cause i found out you can go into negatives

[random tundra]

Ye

[stuck stump]

What 😭

[fervent crow]

also i beleive you can go past 7

[stuck stump]

-20hz

[random tundra]

Also yes

[stuck stump]

💀

[random tundra]

Not like that

[fervent crow]

the guiness book of worlds record for lowest pitch is -7

[random tundra]

He means negative octaves

[fervent crow]

g-7 to be precise

[random tundra]

Ye

[stuck stump]

Ohh

[wooden cedar]

you can train it to be really high

[random tundra]

That's an insanely low frequency

[random tundra]

Not negative frequencies

[fervent crow]

or (with a teensy bit of rounding), less than 0.3hz

[stuck stump]

Mmmmm

[stuck stump]

😭😭😭

[fervent crow]

look at crythix

[stuck stump]

Bro that’s wild

[wooden cedar]

before I trained my falsetto I only had up to an F4, after I can get D5 on a good day but usually tap out around C5

[fervent crow]

he can make his voice go even higher

[stuck stump]

Yeah

[fervent crow]

my chest voice can go up to A4

[stuck stump]

Wait who was the other guy that has the really cool high pitched bass

Was it zvd I forgot

[glass hemlock]

how do u tell what note it is

i wanna see mine

[random tundra]

Tuners

Guitar tuner app or something like that

[wooden cedar]

or damn good relative pitch or absolute pitch

[random tundra]

Ye

[glass hemlock]

i got a friend w perfect pitch

i shall ask her later

[stuck stump]

how high does ur falsetto go @fervent crow

[fervent crow]

my chest voice range is D#2 - A4, my falsetto range is D3-C6, and i cant tell if im going whistle reg or not tho

[stuck stump]

I just tried mine and it was like g5 flat

[stuck stump]

C6 is crazy

[fervent crow]

:)

[glass hemlock]

i did a pitch frequency detector thing

i can do an a4

whatever that means

[fervent crow]

note A on the 4th octave

[stuck stump]

Falsetto or chest voice

[glass hemlock]

i am not musically inclined if u couldnt tell lmao

[fervent crow]

so about as high as my chest voice goes without going falsetto

[random tundra]

The highest I got now is F5

[glass hemlock]

no idea what those mean

head voice i think its called

[wooden cedar]

I can’t get whistle register, have struggled trying to get it for a while now

[fervent crow]

so chest voice

[glass hemlock]

chest voice then yeah

[stuck stump]

Man what

Why my chest voice so low

💀

[glass hemlock]

a4 my top out

[stuck stump]

My highest chest voice is only e4

[glass hemlock]

i used to be able to hit whistle notes, but then puberty happened

[random tundra]

Lowest its a E2 now

My vocal range kinda sucks

[glass hemlock]

also i posted this somewhere before

is this poly?

i cant tell if its just air, or if theres actually 2 notes

[random tundra]

It's is polt

Poly

[wooden cedar]

E2 isnt bad

[random tundra]

Idk

[glass hemlock]

the thing is saying my lowest is an A1

[wooden cedar]

you should still be able to just with training, as to how to train that i have no clue

[stuck stump]

What’s the highest you guys can whistle

[fervent crow]

OH CRAP, I CAN GO HIGHER WITH CHEST VOICE NOW

[stuck stump]

Like just normal whistle

[fervent crow]

LESS GOOOOO

[glass hemlock]

i cant whistle

[random tundra]

The lowest I've ever got was with a 2nd undertone false folds fry

[fervent crow]

IVE LEVELED UP

[stuck stump]

Not like any other weird whistle

[random tundra]

Shi os crazy low

[random tundra]

Nice

[glass hemlock]

oh i could prolly get lower w bass

i was just doing normal voice

[random tundra]

Ye

[wooden cedar]

im ngl since learning and abusing subharmonic singing I cant do vocal fry anymore

[glass hemlock]

i dont even know if the pitch detection thingy is accurate either

[fervent crow]

i can hit C5 now without doing falsetto

[fervent crow]

like alone?

[glass hemlock]

me but w inward poly or inward vocalised chest

[random tundra]

I can do both normal

[glass hemlock]

it autocorrects to inward bass

cannot do them

[random tundra]

But false folds fry is different

[wooden cedar]

yeah, and also cant mix it with modal voice for lower non subharmonic notes(some call strohbass, some fry-mix)

[random tundra]

To normal fry subharmonic singing

[stuck stump]

I can only whistle up to b6

Like

Normal whistle

[fervent crow]

according to my tuner my lowest fry sub is f1

[random tundra]

Wait

[fervent crow]

with 1st undertone fry

[wooden cedar]

my lowest fry sub 1st undertone is C1, a few months ago I hit a B0 1st undertone though but haven’t seen it since then

[glass hemlock]

I think this is the highest and lowest i can go with just normal voice

[stuck stump]

What bass is adi kerang using when he does the high pitched bnenenene

[random tundra]

2nd undertone false folds fry

[fervent crow]

high falsetto + low evil bass

[random tundra]

My tuner don't work with this

[wooden cedar]

mine cuts off below Ab0

[random tundra]

This is the lowest I've ever got

[random tundra]

Minimimimi

[glass hemlock]

yoshi

[stuck stump]

Mimimi

[wooden cedar]

maybe ill try to get fry back but i doubt ill be able to 😔

[random tundra]

Let me see my normal fry sub lowest note

[stuck stump]

How can people do vocal fry so loudly

Mine is so quiet

[wooden cedar]

i need to stick a camera down my throat

[fervent crow]

real

[wooden cedar]

fry in general is quiet

[random tundra]

C#1

[random tundra]

Ye

[glass hemlock]

what is fry

[stuck stump]

Mine is like whisper quiet tho

[fervent crow]

ya, fry sub is annoying spacifically cause its so hard to get, so hard to get good, and impossible to become usably loud

or usable

lol

[glass hemlock]

whst does it sound like

[random tundra]

Ye

[stuck stump]

I feel like I’m trying to learn too many things at once LOL

I see something cool I’m like I want it

💀

[wooden cedar]

really?? when I get home Ill send some fry sub(prob tmrw), cuz mine is pretty loud at this point, though ive been training it for several years

im able to use it really well in choir settings and be louder than an entire section

[random tundra]

Are u a bass singer?

[stuck stump]

I want it du du dudududu du dududu something something woah du dududu

[wooden cedar]

yeah i sing bass 2 or 3 if bass 3 is an option

[random tundra]

That's cool as hell

[wooden cedar]

its fun

[glass hemlock]

Does this 'bass' have a name? its just kinda me humming in a lower register

[fervent crow]

all the ones i can do

[fervent crow]

ya thats not common, its notorious for being super hard with little to no reward

like look at indicator or enel, good examples of fry, and they had to have insane mixes to sound good

[wooden cedar]

ah, at first it was that way(3 years ago), it is only that way when doing 3rd+ undertones(at least now)

[stuck stump]

Bro what the hell is wing saying

[glass hemlock]

Cool 😎

[stuck stump]

Something about his pelvis 😭

[wooden cedar]

2nd undertones still have a little struggle but mostly there

[glass hemlock]

hes shaking his pelvis

[stuck stump]

Reminds me of that one round kaji did against Julard I think

Where he says some

Idk what he says

[fervent crow]

"you know what i want shakin my pelvis" i think?

[stuck stump]

But I think it’s supposed to be a cover

To

Infected mushroom

I think

[glass hemlock]

we never found out what was in his pocket

[stuck stump]

But I still have no clue what he is saying

[stuck stump]

True true

[random tundra]

Fr

[wooden cedar]

true, that would make sense why Ive struggled getting other people to use it well

[stuck stump]

I lowkey thought he was gonna pull out a whistle like hellcat

Idk why

[random tundra]

But lwk there is something there

[stuck stump]

It’s just the first thing I thought of

[random tundra]

OOOOH I just found out 2nd undertone fry sub

Cool

[fervent crow]

ah so enel fry maybe

[glass hemlock]

is polyphonic fry possible

[fervent crow]

if its full enough

[random tundra]

Ye

[glass hemlock]

that sounds like itd be cool

[fervent crow]

wdym by polyphonic

[random tundra]

Not really

It just got lower

[glass hemlock]

Like poly with fry on top

[fervent crow]

ah

[stuck stump]

There is something, in my pocket

[fervent crow]

not polyphonic fry lol

[glass hemlock]

So u get 4+ notes

[fervent crow]

poly + fry

[fervent crow]

what kinda math you doin

poly voice is typically only 2 notes

[glass hemlock]

2 from poly

1 from fry

[random tundra]

LMAO

[glass hemlock]

and 1 from extra air if that can be counted as a note

[fervent crow]

no lol

never have we counted it as a note

[glass hemlock]

if it makes a sound, im calling it a note 😎

[fervent crow]

we are not adding + one note to all sounds lol

[wooden cedar]

nice, istg finding a lower undertone w fry subs is like balancing on a thinner and thinner knife’s edge just cuz of how precise it can be

[fervent crow]

tho fry + poly voice is probs possible, would be super precise, about as precise as low poly + high poly

[random tundra]

Ye I can't do it no more lmao

With false folds fry its a bit easier

The thing is that to make false folds fry is hard af

Weird af feeling

[wooden cedar]

now I want to try false fold fry

[random tundra]

That shi weird

[wooden cedar]

do you have anywhere for me to start from 😭

[random tundra]

So

I get this when my throat is SUPER wet

Like

Super super super wet

And I try to make throat bass

[stuck stump]

What is bro saying 😭

[random tundra]

And go low with it

Instead of actually getting a lower throat bass or vibration

My false folds starts to fry

[wooden cedar]

how tf

[random tundra]

And I get this

Its weird

[stuck stump]

Huh

What how

[random tundra]

It's the same feeling as fry sub but on the false folds

It's a super beefy sound

[wooden cedar]

interesting

[random tundra]

Like

[wooden cedar]

idk how well Ill be able to get it cuz I always have an insane amount of phlegm in my throat

[random tundra]

Yk that feeling when there's a bunch of mucus on ur throat and u want to do a hmhm to clear it?

[wooden cedar]

yeah?

[random tundra]

Instead of clearing I let my throat get wet

[fervent crow]

its hard for me to tell if im getting it or just doing alien bass tbh

[random tundra]

And then do throat bass and try to get low with it

Then it starts to fry smh

[random tundra]

It literally feels like fry sub on the false folds

There no other way to describe it

[wooden cedar]

can you stick a camera down your throat sometime perchance

[random tundra]

Lmao I wish

[fervent crow]

both do cause both use false folds to some extent-

[random tundra]

That's a good point

[stuck stump]

What is alien bass

[random tundra]

Maybe I will need to learn alien bass to get the difference lol

[fervent crow]

fry subharmonics with jayton voice

(constricted singing_

[random tundra]

Sounds different

Damn sounds way different actually

[random tundra]

This sounds way more wet and round

Also more electronic I think lol

[fervent crow]

again, i dont even know if im doing it

it could just be a form of alien bass

[random tundra]

Ye

Maybe

[random tundra]

Here I think ur just constricting it

[wooden cedar]

so maybe the wild amounts of phlegm in my throat will help w this? i cant try rn cuz in the car with my family

[random tundra]

Yeah maybe

Probably it will help

[wooden cedar]

for once it might actually not be a negative thing 😭

[random tundra]

Lmao

[idle dagger]

@fervent crow what the hell is electric bass

[idle dagger]

this could be electric bass

[fervent crow]

might be, idk, electric bass everytime ive heard it has been different lol

people cant decide

[random tundra]

did u tried it?

[fervent crow]

Nah my evil is weird, sometimes good sometimes not

Allways wrecks my throath

[random tundra]

lol

[random tundra]

I think thats common

[fervent crow]

Ya lol

[stuck stump]

How can I avoid the squeaking sound when i do Kenozen bass

[fervent crow]

You're getring a squeaking sound???

[stuck stump]

There’s like a little coming out of my nose on top of the normal sound

[fervent crow]

Hmm

Just try to open more space by your uvula?

[stuck stump]

Ok

[random tundra]

@fervent crow what I should do to make my side click roll and side tongue roll into middle?

Dumb ass question but I just can't do it

[fervent crow]

Hmm

Ypu talkin inward for both or turn it into middle clickroll and middle tongue bass

[random tundra]

Middle clickroll and middle tongue bass

[fervent crow]

ah kk

try having your tongue in more of an L shape for tongue bass, and more of a J shape for clickroll

[random tundra]

Actually I just realized idk if I'm doing middle or side tongue bass lmao

The tip of it vibrates

But not on the middle

Weird to explain

[fervent crow]

so

side tongue bass is funny

i like to teach people imagine your tongue like a square

even tho its not

typically side tongue bass is more on the corner

[fervent crow]

cool frysub texture

[fervent crow]

actually yk whats funny

i went through this exact same issue

for 3 months, i couldnt do middle tongue bass cause i learned side tongue bass

[random tundra]

hmmm

look dms

[fervent crow]

bass

[stuck stump]

@fervent crow what bass is this

It feels kinda weird it hurts a lot 😭

Btw which part is vibrating when you burp

[fervent crow]

Is it inward or outward

[stuck stump]

Outward but idk how I would do that inward 😭

[fervent crow]

Theoretically the tracea is rattling due to the force of the air coming through the esophogus

[stuck stump]

Nvm it kinda sounds like a inward bass when I hear it again 💀

[fervent crow]

Then sounds like a beginning evil bass, or a unpressurized one

[stuck stump]

Damnnn imagine if you can use burp in ur beatbox lol

I feel like it has quite a bit of bass in like a long one

[stuck stump]

Oh damn

I hear people talking about “pressurization” all the time in basses

But idk what that means

[fervent crow]

There are dinosaur rawrs, which are extended burps, and they can be vocalized

[fervent crow]

Its a hard to explain concept

[stuck stump]

WHAT 😭

I need to hear that bro what

[stuck stump]

Mmm

Anyways this bass hurts a lot 😭

It feels like I’ve been yelling at the top of my lungs for the past 8 hours

[fervent crow]

Like you tighten the area so it uses less air, but it... It can still go super low and slow, and sounds clickier

Its basically the difference between normal uvula bass and evil uvula bass for me

[stuck stump]

Mmm if I tighten anymore I sound like I’m choking

But not like a bassy choke

Like an airy choke

[fervent crow]

You dont lol, irs an example of why burping isnt viable, it just sounds goofy and really isnt that bassy

[fervent crow]

Still sounds like evil to me lol

Anyways ima go back to sleep

[stuck stump]

Alr gn

[narrow pike]

where the hell are you getting this from

[fervent crow]

I beleive it was a theory subharmonikz had for it-

[narrow pike]

i mean

[fervent crow]

Cause we needed a way to explain dinosaur roar lol

[narrow pike]

the side of the trachea facing the esophagus doesnt even have any cartilage

like its designed to move out of the way of incoming food

i dont think anything there can rattle if theres only a membrane

[narrow pike]

whats that

[fervent crow]

A super extended burp, basicallt only way to use it as a bass

[narrow pike]

and how does the esophagus opening and closing not explain it

[random tundra]

ye sounds like evil bass

after some time, u will get used to it and it will start to get lowert

[stuck stump]

Ok

[stuck stump]

Yoooo nice

[stuck stump]

How can I stop whistling in my lip roll 😭

It sounds cool sometimes but it’s annoying cause I’m accidentally doing it when I don’t mean to

[random tundra]

Mess around with the tongue position

[meager wave]

I’m proud I’ve been practicing and my throat and lip bass are pretty much perfect :D.

[fervent crow]

Nice

[tidal quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D82IC3HaEOA

can anyone help me with this?

i need a clearer tutorial

[fervent crow]

im not as knowlage able about metal screams- carlos is the best bet but idk

[random tundra]

I suck at these

[fervent crow]

lmfao

[random tundra]

can't help unfortunately

[fervent crow]

and you're better then me sadly

sooo

ya

[random tundra]

got false folds scream only 2 times and was the one of the worst sounds I`ve ever made

[narrow pike]

on some laryngoscopy stuff for metal screaming it definitely looked like evil bass to me maybe with varying degrees of whisper but the false cords also werent completely still, so idk if false fold screams are just a "misconception" or if theres many different techniques (prob the latter tho)

and I might also just be talking out of my ass since I cant do any of these so take it with a grain of salt

[tidal quartz]

so does anyone here know some type of screams?

[random tundra]

In more low guttural techniques I've noticed pretty everything vibrates lol

But the main part are the aryepiglottics and false folds I think

[little bloom]

sorry for the phone recording, does anyone know what this is the beginnings of? can’t tell if i’m going anywhere with this sound, trying to play around with the resonance and try to get the vibration consistent but other than that not sure what to do from here specifically

not sure how it would fit in a beat either 🙃

all i know is the way I’m doing it it’s inhaled and I really really struggle to get it through my nose with my mouth closed, ends up in my nose instead of my throat that way and just sounds like a snore

[fervent crow]

Hmm, with how unclean it is, its either a way too tight uvula bass, or its zombie bass

[little bloom]

how would those sound when learned properly? looking up these terms on youtube and I'm not finding anything, just want to figure out if there's anything I can aim for with this that actually sounds somewhat musical lol

[fervent crow]

Uvula

[fervent crow]

If its uvula, vocalized uvula bass for sure

My version of zombie

[unkempt drum]

Is there a bass name for throat bass mixed with nasal bass?

[fervent crow]

Routrine bass

[fervent crow]

^

[visual lava]

Doubt it’s zombie bass

[visual lava]

I gotchu for zombie bass

[fervent crow]

I only thought so cause of how the breathing is amd how it sounds simular to mine

[visual lava]

Ah

It doesn’t have like the right vibration/resonance that zombie bass usually does

[fervent crow]

Then again mine hardly does as well

[hushed dust]

Can you help me figure out this bass

I have like a triple evil bass idk where it came from

[fervent crow]

Maybe

[hushed dust]

Sometimes i can get a quadruple but it's really hard

And it hurts

Did it for my grandma the other day and she started praying

[fervent crow]

lol

theres a pseudo double evil

but i dont think weve even figured out normal double evil due to how the arytenoids are

[hushed dust]

What is that?

[fervent crow]

pseudo double sounds is when you jhave two very simular sounds, and layer them ontop of eachother

rather than a double sound where its 2 of the same sound

so like my pseudo double clickroll

[hushed dust]

Ohhh okk

[fervent crow]

i use clickroll + uvula clickroll

rather than clickroll + clickroll

[hushed dust]

I get it now

Dope dope

I definitely have 3 evil basses on top of each other

Its like Tails bass

But way better

[fervent crow]

well, that would likely require.... evil throat bass + double evil bass, which theoretically isnt possible rn

tho anatomy changes everything

[hushed dust]

I got choked out by my grandma when i was a baby so it altered my vocal chords

So thats why I can

[fervent crow]

more so would alter larynx shape

which would alter more than just your vocal chords

[hushed dust]

Yee

Triple evil bass

[fervent crow]

i will have to hear it

and by i

i mean either iks or carlos, carlos has actual pitch

[narrow pike]

nah no way tbh

Id love for you to prove me wrong but I dont think thats humanly possible

[brazen elbow]

How does Kingdom do that ressonance sound..

[fervent crow]

Which one? Lmao

Like is it a base, filtered speaking tp boost resonance

[brazen elbow]

https://youtu.be/2UksizSx_QU?si=ieVVPdKH2ZN6OaRh

1:11

[fervent crow]

When he got kinda like bwaaah with that bass... Hmm

Really hard to hear with that mix and the dynamic mic

Its so muddy

[brazen elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ4vT6ZWktY

1:09

[fervent crow]

sounds like inward poly in a weird way, or just a synth texture with a weird vocal style

[random tundra]

there is uvula on it

[fervent crow]

Makes sense tbh

[tepid comet]

do u have the tutorial u learned from bro? it sounds like your pretty good at it no?

[fervent crow]

nah, just sorta got it by accident, related it and memorized the tongue movement

i havnt watched a propper tutorial in... a long time

well, used a tutorial and gotten the sound

well i guess recently i half watched the tutorial for boas bass, but just cause i was told to

i dont get it how people get it so loud tho

[tepid comet]

the loudness is another thing I wanna learn sometimes I randomly getting it after doing inside the mouth clicks but its never consistent or loud

[tepid comet]

do u have any tips on getting the sound?

ive seen people do it with an inside mouth click or just forcing air in their mouth

[fervent crow]

i do it by forcing pressure/air from my mouth and out my nose with my tongue/jaw

[tepid comet]

I just learned two one with a click and one with filling air in my mouth, the click one is louder but the air one I think sounds better

[fervent crow]

Ye

Never heard of spmeone doing it with a click

[tepid comet]

Do u know if theres a techinque they use to go so fast, its pretty hard to execute with so much air

[fervent crow]

about the same technique im doing

[random tundra]

practice

this sounds is shi to get loud

but after like

a couple months doing it

I got it

loud

[random tundra]

just really get the motion down

this sound is not hard after u get it

because it doesn't use air

[random tundra]

tbh I can't explain how I do even tho its one of the sounds I spam on my beats

I got it by trying to scratch my throat with my tongue

[fervent crow]

My gf has it decently loud

[tepid comet]

Got it

[tepid comet]

I’ve been getting it with no specific tounge position does that matter

[brazen elbow]

Not really bass, but how do I do double voice?

[random tundra]

like show-go?

do black magic or something like that

only way

[fervent crow]

Its mechanics is basically yodeling between falsetto and a high head voice, so their notes are super close together

[unkempt drum]

https://youtu.be/0ldUjPGUjYY?si=tQ033V3x3ggOQCKG

What basses is Duckzy using between 21:14 and 21:23?

[fervent crow]

honestly hard to tell cause of the mix

i can obv hear tongue bass and clickroll

i think i also hear a bit of uvula bass in it

and i really wanna say i hear the occasional evil but with that mic mix everything sounds like evil

[unkempt drum]

Damned compressed mix 🫠

[random tundra]

he combos a scratch sound with teeth roll and inward bass iirc

[fervent crow]

ya just so hard to tell with his compression

[keen egret]

is this vibration? i for some reason really stuggle with differentiating low vocalised chest and vibration, especially since when im trying to anything throat/vibration bass related i default to chest for some reason and i find it really difficult to not do chest 😭

[fervent crow]

Muscle memoru for the second bit, they are super close together, i cant listen rn cause in call, but makes sense you struggle differentiating cause of them being the same subharmonic

[tepid comet]

do u have an evil bass tutorial? this sounds sick

[tidal quartz]

does anyone know how to do extrem metal vocals?

[shrewd bolt]

troath bass/inward bass/tongue roll/teeth roll

[shrewd bolt]

its not a mix problem

i see a lot of ppl complaining about my mic but i sound the same on stage, i have a lot of similar textures in my sound kit, that makes it hard to decipher sometimes

[fervent crow]

Aaah i knew there wad tongue bass, and inwarx explains me hearing evil

[random tundra]

oi duckzy eu te amo

https://tenor.com/view/pop-up-headlights-miata-gif-14949580

[fervent crow]

Lmao

[unkempt drum]

Is this inward chest bass? First burst is regular

[fervent crow]

Chance of it, again its hard to tell as the omly example of inward chest is mixed with inward fry

[keen egret]

do you know what bass this is? 😭

[brazen elbow]

Vibration

[random tundra]

he ignored me 😭

[fervent crow]

Ya lol

The pros pop in, dont respond, and leave

[brazen elbow]

How do I do the low poly sound at 2:16?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hYnbV0EwkY&t=142s

[keen egret]

i don't think it is tho that's why i'm asking

[brazen elbow]

It is

you can hear the throat bass

the tightening, and the crackle.

[fervent crow]

100% vibration

[fervent crow]

Beleive its inward poly?

[brazen elbow]

Whenever i try to lower inward it just fizzles out

its stramge

[fervent crow]

It is strange

Its a weird aound to get that much control over

Unless i missed the part od the vid you wanted, but i beleive its the one right at the mark

Which ya def inward poly

[brazen elbow]

2:15 try that one

[fervent crow]

Def sounds like inward poly relitive to the high poly

Ill listen tomarrow closer

Bouta sleep

[random tundra]

def is, its just really unclean

[idle dagger]

oh we call this hippy poly
it's outward and i can do it

[fervent crow]

Ah it is outward k

[idle dagger]

no, not outward k
lmao

[fervent crow]

It almsot reminds.me of falsetto poly + chest voice

With how low it is

Or maybe shield poly + falsetto

[idle dagger]

im not sure actually

[fervent crow]

Those have that sorta broken sound inward poly has

[worthy garnet]

is this vibration? and some tip?

[random tundra]

sounds like it

[fervent crow]

Add more throat bass and less constricted voice

[brazen elbow]

How do you even do poly chest bass.

[stable crest]

Hi guys i wanted to ask

Is this a correct throat bass?

[random tundra]

nope

that is fry sub

[stable crest]

Ooo

[random tundra]

high chest bass + low chest bass

then vocalize

[stable crest]

Thats diff with throat bass?

[random tundra]

yea

[stable crest]

Hahaha damn

[random tundra]

throat bass has ur false folds vibrating an octave under ur voice

[stable crest]

Do we have a guide to make a sound like it

[random tundra]

fry is only vocal folds

[random tundra]

u should try to practice jayton voice/constricted voice to do it

or just use the cleaning throat method

but the chances of getting chest bass with it is higher

[random tundra]

u can try the cleaning throat method first and see if that works for u

u basically do a hm-hm and extend it with ur voice

[stable crest]

Hmmm okaay

[stable crest]

What is jayton voice haha

[random tundra]

its a really constipated sounding voice lol

u call it jayton voice because jayton uses it when he sings

[brazen elbow]

But like..

How..

[random tundra]

do a really really high chest bass and try to push the lower one on it

tilting neck make it works better for some people too

and do kermit voice with it too

helps A LOT

[brazen elbow]

Ew.

I got a whistle

[random tundra]

what

[brazen elbow]

I tried doing waht you said.

I got a whistle.

[random tundra]

wtf

[brazen elbow]

It's really low pitched, but a whistle

[random tundra]

damn

[random tundra]

@stable crest

try to get this more nasally

works a bit better for throat bass

[stable crest]

Lol i dont know what nasally meana

[fervent crow]

basically just through the nose

[random tundra]

eya

[fervent crow]

and also nerd voice

[random tundra]

yea

[stable crest]

Is this correct

[fervent crow]

try to send mp3 files or even wav

we cant listen to aac

[random tundra]

oh yeah I think it is

bro actually is getting it first try wtf

[fervent crow]

lol

[stable crest]

Whaat

But i cant hold it

[fervent crow]

im tellin ya its a good method

[stable crest]

Thats correct?