#gg’s path to becoming uwu

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manic sleet
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alright bitches

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im back

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  • gym every day
  • lc every day
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have my first onsites scheduled next week

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hoping to get in before the true recession begins

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the list of companies to apply to is getting real short 😢

round blade
knotty glade
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every day

manic sleet
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fashion is a state of mind

vague tangle
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How much progress have you made on your lose weight goal

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Need update

manic sleet
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zero

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i ate and drank a ton

smoky portal
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Guys, any of you getting even calls?
I'm so lost. I have a decent resume but don't have a single interview yet even after applying to like 250 internships.

deep cairn
smoky portal
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Alrightoo

manic sleet
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two onsites scheduled

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haven’t really drank for two weeks

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scheduling third onsite

mental lichen
manic sleet
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okay so

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i think first round of onsites went fairly well

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fairly confident i'll get 1 of these 2 offers

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this does mean its time to mass apply everywhere else

vague tangle
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How long do they typically give to makr your decision

manic sleet
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who cares

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jk i care

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im expecting a month

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i can always delay it by asking to speak to people

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and pretending im going on vacation

mental lichen
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nice job!

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when's the next two

manic sleet
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alright 3 onsites down

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4 recruiter screens set up

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reached out to a few old recruiters/HR folks

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i think it’s time to start thinking about what’s after

round blade
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what do you use to keep track of all your applications?

manic sleet
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notion

mental lichen
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interesting

real apex
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bump

manic sleet
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sup

round blade
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imposter
bring back gg

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have you even gotten a single HFT callback in these hardened times?

manic sleet
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i have

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i have a feeling i’m not going to join

mental lichen
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How come?

manic sleet
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giving up, deciding what i value most

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not sure if finance is it

round blade
manic sleet
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yeah, i’m trying to find the right balance

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leaning towards execution speed and technical bar more than just mission and product

manic sleet
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LC + some stats

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LC hard, occasionally some language trivia, C++/python domain knowledge, some stats

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not as much emphasis on systems design + scalability

round blade
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on top of what magikarp said, I would add that for Virtu Financial I had a round on SQL queries

manic sleet
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thats not the same role at all really

round blade
# manic sleet thats not the same role at all really

Could you share how you prepare for HFT interviews? I interviewed with JS and Radix for ng roles
There was no specification about the role. Only that it was a new-grad interview at an HFT, which I believe is what I went through.
But indeed, it wasn't a "quant dev" interview. I had no stats or C++ questions. And my LCs were not hard, it was the quantity that was overwhelming (a lot of easy ones in 1 round).

manic sleet
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virtu is not the same as js/radix and prepping for them will be different

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@exotic mist is your best resource if you want to ask about top hft interviews

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this isn’t being elitist but i (and everyone i’ve spoken to) has never seen sql in interviews across cit/js/jump/pdt/radix/headlands/hrt/etc

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so it’s not worth wasting time v

exotic mist
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i haven’t seen sql in any of my interviews ever tbh

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oops i lied, tech companies sometimes ask me during system design rounds

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for quant firms (not just HFT), i’ve noticed basic statistics and probability, OS knowledge, C++ trivia, python trivia and LC med-hard+ (it’s usually not a question off LC)

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i do get system design questions from quant firms, it’s not the same type of design as tech companies though

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take everything i said with a grain of salt as i only interviewed with those places once each

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and also i’m a student

vague tangle
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How basic are the probability questions?

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Are we talking about what is a standard deviation, computation, what kind of distribution is applicable.. etc

exotic mist
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like three frogs on a triangles vertices

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frogs must jump in either direction, what’s the probability that the frogs don’t collide after they all jump once

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it’s usually just probability from what i’ve seen

vague tangle
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So.. 1/4

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Did i get that right 🤔

round blade
vague tangle
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Honestly assuming i didnt bomb the question. That wasn't too bad, assuming its reflective of the difficulty of the other questions. Seems like pretty doable for anyone with a basic schooling in stats.

manic sleet
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no, i had stats for swe too, humbug did as well

mental lichen
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What kinda stats did you study?

exotic mist
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yeah it’s mostly probability and expected value

exotic mist
exotic mist
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that’s all i did

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i didn’t prepare for anything else, that’s everything

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i did other stuff for tech companies too, but i didn’t do anything else specific for quant firms

exotic mist
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modern effective cpp, cppcon videos

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and random cpp blogs

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definitely did not use neetcode lol

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i don’t think any of those courses are worthwhile, you can do grind75 as prep but i would never buy a course on leetcode

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some of the questions asked are medium-difficulty programming competition questions

exotic mist
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quant firms sometimes ask more lengthy questions, they’re usually not short questions like you’d see with LC-hards

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i did cpp, i don’t know python as well

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many years, i’m not a student

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3-4 months is probably not enough time lol

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i wouldnt even say i’m proficient in cpp lol

manic sleet
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didnt you implement an avl tree

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for no reason

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in prod

exotic mist
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no who told you that

round blade
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@manic sleet are we gonna see a breakdown chart of your interviews and offers? awesome

manic sleet
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probably not - comp is not likely to be a major part of my decision

exotic mist
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yes, i used to several years ago

hushed igloo
manic sleet
hushed igloo
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We request a comparison of each company/offer on those factors in a chart

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Feel free to a anonymize the companies

round blade
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remote > nyc > sfba
how tables have turned

manic sleet
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i just want the flexibility

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i go into the office a decent amount

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but being able to travel a week or two randomly and work remotely is nice

round blade
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so
"flexible remote" > remote > nyc
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I'd love to have a list of "flexibly remote" companies

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Meta is definitely one

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I'm fully remote by contract, yet have unlimited access to office

manic sleet
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yeah, flexible remote is nice

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or realistically nyc office where everyone else is forced to come in but i can dip for a week or two at a time

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LOL

round blade
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would you rather be non-flexible remote, or full-time office ?

manic sleet
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full time office is probably not

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hybrid is nice

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realistically ill see what orgs value for staff level

round blade
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thus
flexible remote (i.e. remote, but unlimited access to office) > hybrid (i.e. forced % of time in office) > 100% office > 100% remote
?

manic sleet
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it’s not that tightly ranked, other factors more important

void tangle
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*Not actually the first time, it's the old Element AI offices that are now the ServiceNow offices

round blade
void tangle
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for sure

round blade
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you're "flexible remote"?

void tangle
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maybe grab a drink at Vices et Versa or smth

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It's fully remote, but there is an office I can come into if I want. Is that flexible remote?

round blade
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you have unlimited access to the office, despite having a fully remote contract?

void tangle
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ye

round blade
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do they serve food at the office? or offer some kinda budget for that?

void tangle
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not anymore

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there's snacks, cereal, oatmeal and booze

manic sleet
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  • get into JSC/HRT/Jump/Radix/PDT
  • lose weight
    Mostly the first one
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Plan is:

  • ~1mo on LC
  • 2weeks of sys design
  • 1 week of stats
vast blade
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Isn't JSC/HRT a lot of C/C++ and low level knowledge/fundamentals

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more than LC

manic sleet
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Nah, especially if you’re not on HFT side

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If not I’ll learn C++

thin delta
void tangle
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Ocaml seems a lot nicer than C++

thin delta
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agreed, functional programming is love

broken berry
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I feel like you're a really good candidate and you could do the HFT side anyway.

vast blade
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yeah-- it was more a comment for HRT

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shrugf never really looked into them too much

manic sleet
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For HRT there’s python specific route

exotic mist
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radix is pure cpp i think, no python

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jump didn’t allow me to do their codility in anything but cpp

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i would offer to help teach cpp, but i don’t know where to even start

knotty glade
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I was going to say, beyond just LC in C++ what else can you do to really get it down

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especially if you're coming from FE and not like Gopher working at a systems level

exotic mist
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i guess we could just really nitpick all your cpp while you do LC

manic sleet
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But rip it wasn’t cpp

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Time to actually learn it

knotty glade
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Good luck homie salute

candid hollow
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#include <bits/stdc++.h>

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got u bb

deep cairn
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what's JSC/HRT/Jump/Radix/PDT

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I thought HRT is hormone replacement therapy

exotic mist
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that’s basically it

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JSC is johnson space center, it's where semi wants to work
HRT is hormone replacement therapy
jump just stands for activity, semi wants to lose weight
radix is a sorting algorithm semi is interested in
PDT stands for semi's goal of moving to the west coast so he can live in pacific daylight time

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i wish you the best of luck on your goals semi

manic sleet
deep cairn
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oh ok

manic sleet
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Basically quant finance

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Maybe I just suck it up and do UI/FE at HRT/TS/Cit/Jump for a bit too

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My infra/BE experience may not be the most relevant for high frequency work

robust forum
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Good luck gg, these seem like big goals but I'm sure you can do it! I think cpp knowledge is important anyway in finance stuff cause everyone uses it (unfortunately)

deep cairn
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I thought jane street uses ocaml, a superior programming language

robust forum
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Well, everyone else uses cpp

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I'm looking forward to humbug teaching gg c++ while the rest of us take notes though
Lecturer humbug, would you be able to give us a syllabus to go through?

manic sleet
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losing weight is probably the hardest part of this

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sigh

slender tangle
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aka not drinking rollsafe

round blade
manic sleet
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i think ive drank once this week

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so wrong.

slender tangle
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nice

manic sleet
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getting lit tonight though so rip

candid hollow
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get k e e n

vague tangle
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Have you considered eating 2 meals a day

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Or better yet 1 meal a day

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That's how I lost 20 pounds during covid proud

deep cairn
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oh no i wish i could lose weight

knotty glade
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Back to your own thread Pupknife

slender tangle
vague tangle
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I eat 2 meals right now and maintain

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Go down to 1 meal and you should see good weight loss

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I think it only took like 2-3 months to lose 20 pounds

manic sleet
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@vague tangle the issue is i go out more than you

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2 meals + drinking is rough

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so im cutting back on drinking

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but i usually do do 2 meals

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i did OMAD for a while, may go back

indigo cypress
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turbonit:

icy crystal
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quant gvng

vague tangle
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Since he's gone can we declare this weight loss goal a failure

vast blade
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F

deep cairn
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@answerable

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oh no

exotic mist
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nice try, he would never do AIML or data engineering

round blade
vague tangle
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He's scuba's alt

round blade
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Wait, humbug left too?

broken berry
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ppl just want to chill with the shitposting on discord sometimes because life, and they want to spend less time on discord.

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LCK enters and leaves for that reason. Or various other reasons.

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it's nbd

round blade
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Why not mute the server? Isn't it less effort?

broken berry
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idk, I'm still here I wouldn't know.

round blade
broken berry
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I think if I was having those kinds of problems.

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I would simply uninstall discord

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then reinstall the app

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Either you have a positive relationship with instant messaging or you don't kinda

vague tangle
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or

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if it's isolated to one chatroom, they could just leave the chatroom

broken berry
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Maybe. But when I have problems with distractions, it's about social media in general. IMO the important bit is learning how to focus, because there is always going to be email/other forms of social media.