#Baited and switched Career Advice

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mint sigil
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Did your manager or team lead tell you that you wouldn't be coding?

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It's your very first day so I would say like don't count it out just yet, see what you'll be doing

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If it's not coding then what?

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This is a very reasonable question to ask your manager or senior or team lead

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If what you'll be doing doesn't suit you then time to look for a new job

tiny cape
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Yea my manager essentially told me that I wouldn’t be coding for almost 2+ years

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I am a May 2024 Grad who essentially took this job because i have no prior experience

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My main goal was to get experience and break into big tech

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But idk what to do anymore

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Ive sent out thousands of applications and barely get interviews

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And the one i pass lied to me about what id do during the interview

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Sorry for the vent im just so defeated

mint sigil
tiny cape
mint sigil
tiny cape
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I would be trying to mass apply, network, and code side projects

mint sigil
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no I mean at this jkob

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this job

tiny cape
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Oh

mint sigil
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wtf are you doing on the job if you're not coding

tiny cape
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Its really unrelevant to cs

mint sigil
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do you know what you're doing?

tiny cape
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Im just staring at flight data

mint sigil
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it's only been 1 day are you sure

tiny cape
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Yea

mint sigil
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ok

tiny cape
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They showed me

mint sigil
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then if you are sure after just 1 day ok

tiny cape
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I look at flight data and report it when i see anything that might be alarming by following protocols

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Yea

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My manager talked to me

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He said HR seems to have lied to us

mint sigil
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did your manager tell you "yo if you want to code you should leave"?

tiny cape
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And he says there are multiple new hires that have left early because of this

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Yes

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Hes also a professor at a UNI

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He goes to teach lectures at night

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He said the work that i will be doing will be completely irrelevant to CS degree experience

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Im just not sure how to break into the tech market

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Ive applied to tons of jobs but the interview rate is so low

strong finch
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Did you interview with any non HR people?

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I’m just kind of surprised you got through 0 all the way to getting an offer and moving there without ever speaking to the person who would be managing you (or anyone technical)

tiny cape
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I got to talk to 0 people from my team

strong finch
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So what is the interview process?

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Because that would imply there was nothing technical about your interview

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Which is noteworthy

tiny cape
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So i had a phone interview with my recruiter

tiny cape
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And from there i answered some general questions like my experience, and my target salary and etc

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And then after that I got scheduled for a second interview which was technical

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I got asked questions about linux commands

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I also got asked questions about c and c++ keywords, libraries and functions

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Like explaining malloc, how to free memory and etc

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Whats crazy is, on the first day of work my 2 month co worker told me hes in the same situation. He complained about the guy from his interview was supposed to be the project lead but hes not even here.

strong finch
tiny cape
strong finch
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Mkay

tiny cape
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I asked my two interviewers what they did and they both said they were developers

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And they told me the different projects they worked on

strong finch
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So where are they?

tiny cape
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So apparently my company is a contractor company for the government

strong finch
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Slow down homie

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Just answer the question lmao

tiny cape
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Theyre working for a different government branch right now

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So theyre just not where im working

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So idk where they are exactly

strong finch
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Hmm so you didn’t interview with anyone you’d work with or who would be your boss or even bosses boss

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Different branch of government sounds like you’re not in the US? That phrasing is interesting

tiny cape
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I am in the US

strong finch
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What does that mean then?

tiny cape
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I got a PSC as well

strong finch
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Less acronyms

tiny cape
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sorry i got a public security trust clearanfe

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Clearance*

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Im working in their flight branch

strong finch
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Hmmm mkay

tiny cape
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They were probably working in a different branch which would be defense and efc

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Etc*

strong finch
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Well if what you’re saying is true then I’d just leave, tell them I was lied to in the process (an expensive process if they got you clearance) , name and shame and move on tbh

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If you really have any sort of clearance than I don’t see why finding another job would be hard

tiny cape
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Yea i guess your right

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the thing is idk how useful a public trust security clearance is

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Its the weakest form of a clearance

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The craziest part is

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My coworker and manager both said its crazy because many new hires had been lied to like i did and theres a high turnover rate because of that

strong finch
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Okay

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Sounds like their problem

tiny cape
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Yea

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Well thank you for taking the time to talk to me

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I really appreciate it

strong finch
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Sure

tiny cape
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Um if u dont mind me asking

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So ive been job searching for 10 months now

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Ive had probably 2000 applications and 5 interviews and like 8 OAs

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Is it going to be harder to land an interview now that im 10 months post graduation?

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I realized that new grad positions accept generally under 1 year post grad

strong finch
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Not sure how that changes things tbh with you

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You can just apply to whatever you want

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Not sure what the question really is here lmao

tiny cape
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Like do you think the 1 year employment gap between me and my graduation date would effect my interview chances

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I have gotten some mix input from videos

strong finch
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I just don’t see why it matters

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Just apply to whatever you think you could do

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Is there something more complicated I’m missing? Lmao

tiny cape
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Ya youre right

strong finch
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Like the answer is, like with anything here, it depends

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But who cares

tiny cape
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Im just scared i wont be able to land anything

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Since im already post grad for a year

strong finch
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Yeah cool

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I fully admit, I don’t get your question

Nothing a video or random on discord says would change your outcome

strong finch
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I find it odd you’re worried about the time since graduation instead of that tbh

tiny cape
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Well I an

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Am*

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I have revised my resume a lot of times

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From asking from the people here to paying for someone to look at my resume

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I think the consensus is my lack of experience

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I only have 1 internship that lasted a month

strong finch
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Yeah let’s avoid paying people to resumes review

tiny cape
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Gotcha its just i felt like i was at a dead end

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So I just paid for the service cause honestly i dont know what was wrong anymore

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I didnt know if it was the job market or something wrong with my resume

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Sorry for venting

strong finch
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The basic questions are , what roles do you apply to and does your resume reflect that you’d be able to do those roles

tiny cape
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Right

strong finch
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I doubt you require sponsorship since you got a clearance of any sort so that’s fine

tiny cape
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Yea

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I mostly apply to entry level roles and new grad positions

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But most entry level roles require 1-2 years of experience which i dont have

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And there only a few new grad positions and many dont call back

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Do u mind looking at my current resume?

strong finch
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Like this doesn’t and shouldn’t stop. You from applying

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I think all of my jobs I didn’t have the required experience they wanted

tiny cape
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Ya youre right

strong finch
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Well you’re an adult gotta figure your situation out, I already said what I’d do if it were me. Up to you to determine what’s best

tiny cape
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Yup

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I think when i quit

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Im going to start a job search blog here

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And just grind super hard

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Thanks alot man for your advices

mint sigil
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So it affects those places that use that as a cutoff, which is a good number of places

As for the "gap" itself of 1 year of unemployment it doesn't matter as long as you have been keeping up with programming and skills and you can show it on your resume.

Employment gap only matters if during the gap you gave up coding

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But even then it doesn't change what you do

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Like you still just apply there's no way around that

tiny cape
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Ill keep you guys updated thank you guys so much for your advice and input

strong pike
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@tiny cape hey homie

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i had a similar experience

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can you at least use the name of the agency and make it sound cs related?

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i was able to move to google after a year and a half but it was a rough year

tiny cape
tiny cape
strong pike
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i feel that

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i wanted to do that too

tiny cape
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Just to give you some insight, they are a government contracting company and the project I was working on could only give me experience in Linux and some script commands. (Which i didn't think was good enough)

strong pike
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i just had no money to go back home

tiny cape
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Ah so you were financially restricteed

strong pike
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i was working at lockheed so similar situation

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yea

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i moved cross country

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and breaking the lease was 5k moving back with my car and everything was another 5k

tiny cape
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Oh so you had a early termination clause?

strong pike
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but i think youve got the right idea

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on my lease yea

tiny cape
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Gotcha

strong pike
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it was an apartment company

tiny cape
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damn 5k?

strong pike
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yea

tiny cape
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how much was your rent man?

strong pike
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2200

tiny cape
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jesus

strong pike
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i was in a big city

tiny cape
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ya makes sense

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I don't have an early termination clause and I do have to rent until someone picks it up

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but from what I've heard people in that area is they get rented out really fast

strong pike
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might be better to sublease in your case

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ah

tiny cape
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my rent was 1550

strong pike
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thats good

tiny cape
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in the lease they said no subleasing :/

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so im just hoping they rent it out soon

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Did your job help you get into google?

tiny cape
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What was the process like for you? Did you submit alot of apps or did you work there for a while before applying and studying?

serene cedar
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Scammer

strong pike
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My bad I took a while

strong pike