#Alright, let me try this again.

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magic oracle
magic oracle
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Huh. No feedback?

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(My resume is perfect! Hurrah! 🄳)

ocean arrow
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What is pre computer science in education? Also the bullet point under doesn’t really provide much?

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Your phone number isn’t anonymized out

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Don’t need physically located in

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Also just your education block is huge. All people really care about is you have a degree, since your gpa is good you can leave it as well

ocean arrow
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Your Twitter tone bullet two sounds incredible, but doesn’t feel phrased properly. You’re telling a story when the preferred formula is what’s in KJ’s sticky (used a to do b which resulted in c)

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^ that formula goes for a couple of your bullet points.

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Academic tutor bullet points are very verbose

alpine echo
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So with pre-computer science you mention you chose to not have credits apply. Does that mean you essentially retook/relearned those classes when you went after your bachelor's elsewhere?

trim panther
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Why two pages

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Also why didn’t you block out your phone #?

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Nitpicks: C/C++ pains me (they’re completely different languages), nobody does ms-dos

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Many of your bullets feel too verbose , one line should be enough. Feel free to use weird grammar to make it work

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Do you have no work experience?

rare wadi
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the pre-computer science line is very weird and absolutely that second page is pulling your resume straight into whatever industrial sized shredder companies are using for their 1000+ applications stacks.

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even if it's from mit like who cares, so long ago? why? also big use of space to say that you "learned" ... what does this mean? do you remember any of these learnings from 22 years ago? is it so profound whatever you covered in that time that it must be remembered and remarked on the resume?

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the words "physically located" are they necessary?

magic oracle
# trim panther Also why didn’t you block out your phone #?

A long story that shortens to "I messed up and forgot I had temporarily removed it to trouble shoot an alignment issue". šŸ˜… Oops. At least that

A) Explains my first ever spam call I've received
B) Let me confirm that the phone number I'm using actually works for some people.

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Reuploading that page with the number recensored. Thanks.

magic oracle
# alpine echo So with pre-computer science you mention you chose to not have credits apply. Do...

The pre-comp science thing was two disasters, one financial, one medical, that resulted in many failing grades, a terrible GPA, and me having to spend 17-ish years working to overcome the double setback to get back to school. By the time I made it back, I chose to utilize a legal thing in Texas that basically prevents those things from being considered when applying to a school. No hit to your look, but also no credit for the course. Since I also wanted to refresh those courses after 17-ish years away, it was a win-win-win for me.

But I also don't know how bad it is if I don't include that on my resume, since it will show up on transcripts, and probably background checks, etc.

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@rare wadi I'm concerned about companies that would disqualify me for not including stuff that shows up on my transcript. Several job applications have had me attest that information I've provided is complete.

magic oracle
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And... I've heard companies care about tax implications for employment, particularly ones involving location?

magic oracle
# trim panther Do you have no work experience?

I... do have work experience? It's on page two. None of it is programming (save for one or two tiny, one-hour things in Excel over the course of 13+ years at a job, maybe), because I'm a fresh, wet behind the ears grad who hasn't worked in almost a year, hence why it's not on page one. Partly because I needed a break after working for 17-ish years with only two vacations. Partly because *gestures vaguely at the job market*.

magic oracle
# ocean arrow Your Twitter tone bullet two sounds incredible, but doesn’t feel phrased properl...

I'm not sure how/what to do with that second bullet point, then. I didn't 'use' anything to improve the performance beyond the tools and language we were already using. In fact, if anything, I basically just abandoned the .executemany() call in the mySQL Connector library because it just wasn't optimizing inserts like it claimed it should be doing, built the multiple-entry-insert line by line by hand in Python as a text string (quite possibly introducing an SQL injection vulnerability in the process, honestly, though one I probably could have fixed with mySQL's own sanitization code if I'd had more time), basically a text blob that was probably in the ballpark of a few hundred KB in size, and just shot the entire thing at the DB in one go.

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/connector-python/en/connector-python-api-mysqlcursor-executemany.html
I'll steal from this page as an example:

data = [
  ('Jane', date(2005, 2, 12)),
  ('Joe', date(2006, 5, 23)),
  ('John', date(2010, 10, 3)),
]
stmt = "INSERT INTO employees (first_name, hire_date) VALUES (%s, %s)"
cursor.executemany(stmt, data)

Ostensibly, what their documentation claims is that the .executemany(stmt, data) call will see that it's an insert and build a query like so:

INSERT INTO employees (first_name, hire_date) VALUES ('Jane', '2005-02-12'), ('Joe', '2006-05-23'), ('John', '2010-10-03')

One query is fast, your code can move on from it. We were doing hundreds of data rows at a time.

Instead, I suspect that it was literally doing the following:

INSERT INTO employees (first_name, hire_date) VALUES ('Jane', '2005-02-12')
INSERT INTO employees (first_name, hire_date) VALUES ('Joe', '2006-05-23')
INSERT INTO employees (first_name, hire_date) VALUES ('John', '2010-10-03')

Which is what .execute() does. That's three queries. Imagine that with hundreds or thousands. Your code sits there sending query after query rather than moving on.

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(I did try to take some time to look into the Python Connector's code for executemany() to see where it was supposed to be optimizing things, and I literally just couldn't find any code that was supposed to be doing it. At all. Now, this was basically my first large project with Python, so I had basically had to crash-course the language, so it's possible I missed the code somehow. But I don't think I did.)

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All I did was rewrite code someone else on the team to be faster by working around Oracle's seemingly-unimplemented feature. šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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I don't know how to translate "mySQL's stuff seemed broken, I worked around the brokenness" into "Used A to do B".

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(I'll happily take suggestions on wording for that, now that I've explained what I did in more detail.)

rare wadi
# magic oracle <@954908893811708004> I'm concerned about companies that would disqualify me for...

This is a ridiculous concern, it's 20 years. Maybe make. A note if they specifically say something like that but even if they do it's too anal for them to take it seriously. The lying on background check thing is when they think you're dishonest about work history. I don't think the transcripts are under such scrutiny, especially for such old entries. Do they even actually read the transcript or just accept it as proof of graduation? Anyhow seems like a waste of space to me and you absolutely must get it down to one page.

trim panther
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By the time you get to the background check stuff, the company wants to hire you

ocean arrow
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The story doesn’t matter, how you solved it doesn’t matter, it’s about what you did and the outcome

ocean arrow
ocean arrow
hazy cove
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bump

shell anvil
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post update

hazy cove
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@hard urchin

hard urchin
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Yeeee

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Let's get a glimpse at this warlock

hazy cove
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yeah @magic oracle the main problem is 2 pages that’s like šŸ‘Ž

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but we will see

hard urchin
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There's definitely places you can cut length

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You need education, skills projects, and work history on 1 page

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And that's entirely doable

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It will be an abridged work history, but it should show you're not getting your first ever job

magic oracle
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aaugh, hold on, let me get it. Going to take a second to spin it up. Stupid LaTeX. Or should I just do RTF? I'm not finished formatting that.

dawn yew
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this thread is long

hard urchin
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Your big 15 years of work history, can you break that into companies?

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We need to truncate that for your resume, but how we truncate that is going to matter

magic oracle
hidden haven
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With what money? I'd have a break a lease just to move now, and then I'd have, what, a new lease there? Which I'd then have to break to move elsewhere? I'll admit that I don't have a large range of experiences in terms of "living life" so, dumb question time, but is there some sort of form of housing where I can just flounce off whenever I want to?
ask for relocation

hard urchin
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The good news is that this is totally doable as a 1 pager.

magic oracle
hard urchin
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The bullet points are not great

hidden haven
hard urchin
dawn yew
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Okay so - one thing that instantly strikes that I’ll bring up is - based off of the assumptions with your background + looking at your resume

magic oracle
magic oracle
magic oracle
hazy cove
# magic oracle

would benefit from more quantitative data of the work you did

hidden haven
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totally normal

hazy cove
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i.e improved X process by Y% through thing I did

dawn yew
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not sure how to phrase it tbh but the resume did not align with what you have described as your life experience so far

magic oracle
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Also, I've got neuron problems that require a Schedule 2 drug for treatment (same level as cocaine), which adds additional complexities. Finding a doctor willing to deal with the legal complications of prescribing it, the wait time in doing so, etc.

dawn yew
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your experience should be on 1st page

magic oracle
dawn yew
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not the projects

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it should all be on 1 page

hazy cove
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yeah but your work

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if I’m hiring i have a shit load of people looking for this role. What I want to see is data I stop and look at

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this is a minor detail

magic oracle
hazy cove
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is what I meant

hard urchin
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Do you have time later for a screen share? I'd rather spend 10 minutes helping you line edit this than try doing it in bits and pieces via my phone.

shell anvil
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@magic oracle were you paid for the undergraduate research?

magic oracle
hard urchin
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I can do tonight at 5:30 central.

dawn yew
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imo

magic oracle
dawn yew
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your tech stack

hard urchin
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I need to go pitch this project quick

dawn yew
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is too over the place

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If I’m an HM I have no clue where to put you on

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or what work you would have most success in

fervent linden
hazy cove
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@hard urchin is a real one for offering that

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I respect that

hard urchin
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Step 1, fix the formatting on this resume.

Step 2-N, look at future skill development

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Right now Endurium has what they have

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Let's at least get them a useable resume

dawn yew
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to cover every stone out there make it Latex parseable using something like open leaf template (Jake’s) - but I don’t even think it’s a big issue

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make resume more targeted and focused

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it’s all over the place

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decide what you wanna do and aim for it I think

shell anvil
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this is my quick feedback

magic oracle
dawn yew
hard urchin
shell anvil
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bullet points need work but i dont want to go through each one

hazy cove
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I found the compiler project really grabbed my attention

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and undergrad research if you’d expand better

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just my immediate reaction to the project section

fervent linden
hard urchin
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Lived in a motel for 2 weeks for my first job

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It sucks

magic oracle
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I've found it's terrible for being parsed by the sites I uploaded it to, which is why I'm seriously considering moving away from it. I don't think a single site has correctly parsed it.

hazy cove
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vagorge has some good points and I agree with pretty much all of it

magic oracle
dawn yew
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you can place things and include things that are relevant to stuff that could get you hired for roles that exist

For example - there’s lots of JS jobs working on full stack dev - so a recruiter/HM will look for relevant projects , technologies , etc. - and evaluate their interest.

For example if I’m an HM - I run a team of 6 engineers - I have an opening - I get 2 resumes.

1 resume is of a person who has bunch of C++ , systems programming , embedded stuff , backend stuff , Java , and only 15-20% JS.

Other resume is someone who has less info - doesn’t know any other stuff - but only has JS and job related tech

even though candidate 1 might be more impressive - the HM might choose the 2nd person because person 1 can do better and won’t like the work

dawn yew
magic oracle
# shell anvil this is my quick feedback

Wait, seriously don't mention the fact that I attended school at a different university (and basically failed out)? I've had jobs literally force me to swear up, down, and sideways that I wasn't "hiding" past educational experience.

hazy cove
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4.0 summa cum lauds

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all I read

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That’s the big thing

dawn yew
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so as a rule - 0yoe as ft engineer = NEVER more than 1 page. It’s instantly filtered as fluff because how many students do u think tru to add content?

hazy cove
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why does the other school matter you didn’t graduate from it right?

scarlet glacier
dawn yew
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to make it seem big

magic oracle
hazy cove
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4.0 summa cum laude = this guy did well in school and graduated from this one and that’s all I, as a busy recruiter/HM, am looking to see for his education (take this with a grain of salt, I am not either of those two jobs)

fervent linden
dawn yew
magic oracle
hazy cove
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sign something? I don’t think that is normal, is it?

magic oracle
shell anvil
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no one is telling you to lie

magic oracle
visual cliff
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That's not common

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Just skip apps that need you to do that

magic oracle
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šŸ˜… I can't afford to be picky, but... I get your message.

scarlet glacier
fast sinew
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I could see that if it were for like a government/clearanced role but outside of that I've never seen one

hard urchin
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Desired Jobs > Content > Formatting > ???

Is the order you need to debug the resume

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So put some thought into what kinds of coding roles you want to target

hazy cove
dawn yew
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If you want create 3 different resumes

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tailored to jobs

magic oracle
hazy cove
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trust me it sucks and makes you feel uncomfortable but you have to do it for the greatest odds
Nobody said lie but nobody said downplay yourself / not showcase yourself in the absolute best light

dawn yew
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do you have an example of a job you thought you would be a good fit for?

hard urchin
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If you dont know what roles you want to target or dont understand the types of jobs, let's start there

dawn yew
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and you think your resume not being proper filtered you out?

magic oracle
hazy cove
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you did compiler work

hazy cove
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systems programming interests you?

scarlet glacier
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I know it's unintuitive because you're like "I just want a job", but targeting helps outcomes

dawn yew
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your resume DOES NOT read off like that

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your resume reads off to me at least in a way really throwing me off based off of everything you’re saying

magic oracle
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(It's hard to rewrite a resume and chat here simultaneously. šŸ˜†)

hard urchin
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I'm going into a meeting here, but the first big decision you should make is whether you want to work somewhere in the webdev paradigm or somewhere outside of it.

hard urchin
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Systems programming is a very different target than says backend webdev

hazy cove
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yeah so

  • paint yourself in the best light when you rewrite this but obviously don’t go crazy
  • figure out your job target; are you going to target frontend or backend or possibly even systems
  • only education section that matters (imo) is: your 4.0 summa cum laude. That’s awesome and what I care about
  • and use vagorges feedback
    programming? Devops?
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indeed

dawn yew
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basically what I’ve been trying to say the entire time not sure how to convey the message

ideally your resume is designed so that if it lands in someone’s hands - they should think that ā€œEnduriumā€ would be excited to work here - let’s interview him and see if he’s interested!

magic oracle
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I don't know?
I've been dabbling with code since... I dunno, '95? I liked doing it. I like troubleshooting tech/IT problems, too. I wanted a job that wasn't retail, so CS seemed like a good choice. So I got a CS degree to shore up holes in my knowledge/understanding.

What kind of job do I want? A job that gives me money to solve problems.

dawn yew
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currently your resume is too broad for example for the common JS example I gave which is a common job out there - imo if I was an HM and I even wanted to hire you - I’d not follow up thinking you wouldn’t be interested (based on the resume)

hazy cove
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šŸ‘

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It’s a iterative process

shell anvil
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do the updates i have given šŸ™‚

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thank you

dawn yew
magic oracle
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I will say that, on a personal level, I despite the subscription model, you own nothing philosophy that seems to be the new paradigm, so anything as far from that as possible is ideal. I get the feeling 'webdev' feeds directly into that paradigm, so it'd probably be on the more unenjoyable end of the spectrum.

magic oracle
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Speaking of:

dawn yew
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also probably best to be open minded and unopinionated

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you never know what might offend people or the recruiter or engineer or HM and take it the wrong way and could prevent you from getting the job

magic oracle
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Built a Bash script to work around a file-piping flaw in ported Assembly code that had been plaguing a professor for a decade.
You suggest rewriting this. I'm not sure how.

Problem: Assembly was Windows/MASM, taught out of a textbook by Kip Irvine. Textbook provided proceedures built with MS-DOS/Windows design in mind, which meant that file-piping was not even an option.

Compilers course was taught on Linux.

Ten years ago, a graduate student ported some of those Windows-based procedures over to the Linux box, got them working just enough that a casual use of them functioned fine... but they didn't account for file piping. So if you built an executable binary from them and then tried to pipe input from a file into the executable, the executable would accept the first line of input, and dump the rest to /dev/null.

It was a problem the professor had been working around for a decade.

I learned about FIFO pipes and realized you could probably use them to work around the problem, and so I built about 98% of a script to do just that, with a Linux guru acquaintance helping me with the very last tiny piece.

Boom. Workaround script achieved, professor now hands it out to every student in his class.

How do I 'rewrite' that? šŸ˜†

magic oracle
visual cliff
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Maybe talk about the fifo pipe

magic oracle
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Built a Bash script to work around a file-piping flaw in ported Assembly code that had been plaguing a professor for a decade by using FIFO pipes.

visual cliff
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"Using fifo pipe and other fix"

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What's the other bit of magic

shell anvil
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im not a fan of the "plaguing a professor for a decade"

visual cliff
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Also the plaguing a professor part seems unnecessary

shell anvil
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it can be taken in a negative way very quickly

visual cliff
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It is negative

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Just stick to what you accomplished

magic oracle
# visual cliff What's the other bit of magic

Uh, if I understand Linux correctly, it's spinning up a subshell per line of text, and piping the output of that subshell to the pipe?
PseudoCode-ish:
./executable < namedPipeAlreadyCreatedEarlier &
(a loop echo-ing one line of text at a time < fromTextFile.txt) > namedPipeAlreadyCreatedEarlier

visual cliff
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Maybe multiple shell sessions?

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Is that a way to phrase it? Not a bash wizard

magic oracle
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Built a Bash script to work around a file-piping flaw in Assembly code ported from Windows to Linux using FIFO pipes.

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I'm not 100% confident of the truth of the subshell thing, myself, so I'm hesitant to also mention it in the resume. If I'm wrong, then... 😬

visual cliff
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Well you could probably leave it at that

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Seems like a good bullet point

magic oracle
# shell anvil this is my quick feedback

Wrote multiple additional tests, four of which covered code not covered by the professor’s tests and are now used by him.
I honestly don't like this entire bullet point either, and would love to drop it entirely, but it felt like a useful place to namedrop tests for AI filters. So... I don't know what to do with it.

shell anvil
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dont worry about filters

magic oracle
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Seriously?

shell anvil
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yes, write your resume for when you have to talk about it in a interview

magic oracle
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(So just drop the bullet entirely?)

shell anvil
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If you cant/dont want to speak about it yes

magic oracle
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I mean, I suppose there's not much to say about it. There were elements of the compiler that weren't tested by the provided tests. I plugged a few of those holes. Those tests are now part of the curriculum. Nothing special.

shell anvil
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yeah its fine to drop IMO

magic oracle
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this project can be a lot better
Honestly, there's nothing particularly special about the project. I just took an algorithmic concept and converted it to (honestly probably badly performing) C++ code. It was research and everyone keeps telling me "research is good, include it on the resume!" but... do I just drop the thing entirely?

shell anvil
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dont delete yet. see how long your resume is first

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skip it for now

magic oracle
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What class was tutored, what things were tutored
... I can't think of a single class someone approached me for that I couldn't help with. I even had a Masters student in there a couple times asking for help with Python. So... all of them? But listing out every single class I can remember tutoring for seems like it'd make my resume longer.

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It was primarily troubleshooting or conceptual education. "Here's how things are working under the hood, now that you know that, can you tell me why accessing array[28] is making the program crash? Yes, exactly. Fix that, and you should be good."

shell anvil
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You werent just a DSA tutor?

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you were a tutor for everything?

magic oracle
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Data Structures and Algorithms? Nah. That was definitely a large portion of the people coming in? But I also tutored Compilers, the MySQL course I was actively taking at the time, Compilers (one of the only students they'd ever had who could tutor that one), Mobile Game Development, Operating Systems, whatever the "intro to programming using data analysis techniques in Python for people who lack CS degrees but are doing a Masters in CS" class was, and likely others I'm forgetting.

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Hell, I was helping two students with Compilers last night. I enjoy helping people solve problems.

shell anvil
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well if you put that you tutored for all those classes

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they are going to think you are capping

magic oracle
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I mean, my first OS was IBM-DOS. I remember MS-DOS 6, and the need to switch to MS-DOS 6.2 due to file corruption caused by the drive compression algorithm they may have stolen from another company. I was watching drives defrag before I was 10, and wrote TI-BASIC programs in math class for fun and to make the work easier in the 8th grade. In 11th or 12th (I forget) I took a C++ course back... possibly a version of it from before it was standardized into C++98?

I've dabbled. Tutoring those courses was easy, and fun. It's all just code. Code's easy.

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I need to go adult in meatspace, back in a bit. Thanks for the help, I'll make more changes in a bit.

hard urchin
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@magic oracle jump into voice chat if you still want to review youre resume.

magic oracle
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Partial changes...

hidden haven
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I bet you can fit that education onto one line

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although I guess if you want to put the 4.0 on there, which is probably good, you might need the second line

hard urchin
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You dont get a 4.0 to not tell people you have a 4.0

magic oracle
# fervent linden does this matter? if you need to meet in person to get a new prescription just d...

Sorry, to clarify: Finding a new primary care physician in my area when my old one stopped being available was about a six month waiting process. This actually isn't unusual for the area. They have a whole interim system in place to handle people until they have a PCP. One of the very first things I was warned about when entering this system was that the person covering me in the interim had gone out of their way to track down one of the few doctors in the area willing to prescribe these drugs.

The prescriptions are only 30 days, and only every 30 days. There are no, and can never be any, prescriptions longer than that, not under any circumstances.

It means that if/when I move, I'm at a high risk of essentially having to try to manage without the medication as I attempt to find a doctor willing to prescribe it. And depending on wait times, that might be for weeks, if not months.

It won't directly kill me, like a diabetic without insulin, but from experience I do know that I'll struggle with certain basic life tasks, to the point of risking things like car accidents, as well as my malfunctioning brain missing vital things like deadlines, as well as struggling with things like a job.

They aren't wildly debilitating effects, but they're bad enough that the better alternative to the impact of the neurological disorder is prescribing a drug on the same level as cocaine.

Hence why I'm wildly nervous about trying to uproot my entire life while also trying to start a new job. Any move will likely be accompanied by a degradation in my abilities to do my job until I can establish a medical relationship.

These impacts are fewer and less severe if I'm already familiar with the job and my role within it, as I can plan around the impacts.

(And, due to the Schedule II nature of the drug, doing weird things like seeking out a doctor four hours from your home is viewed as suspicious and sometimes reason to refuse care.)

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šŸŽµ ✨ America! ✨ šŸŽµ

fervent linden
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i'm saying continue to commute back once every 30 days to get your medicine. you don't need to get a new doctor

magic oracle
# fervent linden i'm saying continue to commute back once every 30 days to get your medicine. you...

Ah, that makes more sense. Thanks. It's an idea.

It's three-to-six hours one way, depending on the city (Texas is big), so I'd be looking at an six-to-twelve hour drive ||(in my 2003 Hyundai)||...
Every thirty or so days for actually collecting the medication.
Additionally every ninety days for mandatory appointments that don't include other issues. (The timing on this would not align with getting the medication.)

Hopefully in timeframes that somehow align with work in a non-disruptive way. Easily could end up during a weekday.

With the added complication of pharmacies sometimes insisting they don't have the prescription (as happened two weeks ago when I went to pick them up, a shockingly frequent occurrence that resulted in me having to do without for several days while doctors offices and pharmacies blamed each other for the issue) that might necessitate me driving a second time a day or two later. ||(It was the new guy behind the counter not yet having been fully trained on how to look things up, and no one realizing he might be making an error and stepping in. Not his fault, but frustrating.)||

Not nearly as big of a risk as doing without for several months, but still not an idea I relish. Still... possibly doable. I'll keep it in mind if I end up having to uproot myself and still not leave the state like I want to.

(There's also a shortage that has been going on for months, but is a complication I'd have to deal with regardless of anything at all, anywhere. However, added distance adds a wrinkle in that sometimes a pharmacy won't tell you if they have the stock unless you have a prescription with them, due to not wanting to be targeted for theft. Sometimes you can ask in person, but that would still require a trip, and possibly two due to the two+ day process of getting the doctor's office to move the prescription over, since you can't do a normal transfer like other medications. It's seriously a nightmare.)

magic oracle
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From @shell anvil,@hard urchin's and others' assistance (thank you), an... in progress? adjustment.

magic oracle
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(Still open to feedback.)

fervent linden
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The reason I suggested commuting every month to get your medication is because that expands your search to the major metros around you. Once you get there you can eventually move your prescription over. The main thing is that major metros have airports. That'll allow you to interview at places that are much further away. Say you get a new job a flight away, you'll be able to repeat the process and commute back by air instead of car

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Sometimes the path to get the job you want is indirect. I.e. you'll need a stepping stone along the way. Large problems seem impossible unless you can break them down

hard urchin
magic oracle
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commute back by air
The possibility of ever earning enough money to actually do that is... not even something that had crossed my mind. Feels fairly wasteful, but, eh, gotta do what ya gotta do maybe? Still very nervous about six-to-twelve hour drives when sometimes I can't even drive the five minutes to pick up my meds and be able to trust that they're waiting for me. But it's a good idea to keep in mind.

magic oracle
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I must say I'm getting very frustrated at how badly parsing algorithms are handling this template though.

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I basically upload the resume, then have to delete everything and redo it all.

hard urchin
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Yeah, I don't think I've come across many of those HR parsers that read out the resume on the first try.

shell anvil
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you dont need Physically located in ____

hard urchin
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^ good catch. Just put your address in the top.

scarlet glacier
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Or just nothing

magic oracle
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I realize that my resume isn't really built for help desk in mind, but it still stings that I've already got several responses back from help desk jobs I decided to just throw my resume at "just in case" (because it seems like job postings get closed in about 12 hours these days, so it was that, or just not apply) that are also not even letting me past the first hurdle.

shell anvil
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you're probably not going to get bites for a helpdesk

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you arent what they are looking for

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you are over qualified for the position

magic oracle
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Well, I need something, and I'd rather not deliver pizzas. Not that I think they'd hire me either, since they'd probably be worried I'd quit in a month because I have a CS degree.

shell anvil
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yes exactly

magic oracle
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So if I can't get the jobs I'm qualified for, and I can't get jobs I'm overqualified for...?

shell anvil
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you keep trying for the ones you are qualified for

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and hold the current job you dont like

magic oracle
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That's my problem. I've been burning through savings after college looking for work. I don't have a current job, because I can't get hired anywhere.

shell anvil
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you may think im trolling but instacart in your free time. you'll clear about $150 a day

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but

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idk you have to make the decisions

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your resume is better then before

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it could be better

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apply for every job under the sun.

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practice leetcode

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be interview ready (study)

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so when they do call you

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you nail it out the park

magic oracle
shell anvil
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it will keep you afloat

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and it will be flexible

magic oracle
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I am concerned about this town being too small to support that... and my car being too small. Tiny little hatchback. But... yeah, I might have to do that. I... don't know how much more energy I'll have after that to look for jobs, though. Which is going to suck.

shell anvil
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well think of getting a job is

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a full-time job

magic oracle
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Yeah, two full-time jobs is going to be exhausting.

shell anvil
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yes, i agree.

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there is a light at the end of the tunnel though

magic oracle
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I legitimately think I can't at all succeed at my first interview. I haven't had an interview in... nearly a decade. The last one was for a role I had already quasi been doing to some degree, and they didn't like how friendly/relaxed I seemed. And I've never done a CS-themed interview, so I've got very little idea of what to expect I need interviews to have an idea of what to expect, so I can know what to prepare for. So... my first interview won't go well. Second, six months later... who knows.

shell anvil
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interviewing is a skill

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thats why i apply to every job

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and accept every interview

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no matter where in the country it is or the pay

magic oracle
shell anvil
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i would re sort your resume to Education - Projects - Experience - Skills

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IMO

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Include a couple bullet points for the Tutor one

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and everyday

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go through this list

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multiple times if you have to

magic oracle
magic oracle
# shell anvil go through this list

But yes, that's where I've been looking. As well as occasionally other sites which don't seem as well regarded by what I can judge from other conversations I've seen.

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Must have graduated from an accredited college or university since May 2023, or will graduate by June 2024
Must have obtained degree within 12 months of start date
Great. Now even these kinds of jobs are starting to no longer be options for me to apply to. 😩

hard urchin
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Do your best. After you've sat a few you'll start to reacquire the skill, get more comfortable answering the questions, and get an idea for what kind of technicals are asked.

fervent linden
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is practice makes perfect not a thing anymore?

hard urchin
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I'm not trying to be discouraging.

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Job interviews are like Tinder matches. Sometimes you stick your foot in your mouth. Sometimes you say everything right and they still don't turn into anything. Any one of them could turn into something lasting or could completely fizzle. All you can do is keep trying and make sure you put your best foot forward each time you roll the dice.

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But they do get easier once you've bombed a few.

fervent linden
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all i'm saying is that there's no excuse for being rusty interviewing

rare wadi
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there's also interviewing.io for similar but different branded experience-building. maybe you can find a discount across one or the other site

fervent linden
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interviewing.io is $$$. it's prolly only worth it if you're going for #big-n-discussion

magic oracle
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I've made additional tweaks and come seeking any other feedback, as I'm still looking months and months later. Still zero interviews.

magic oracle
magic oracle
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Oh so funny. </deadpan>

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I also removed a language or three, like Assembly, because the more I dig into those languages the more I think I've only waded in the kiddie pool end of them, and wouldn't be able to have a meaningful conversation about them.

fervent linden
magic oracle
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No, I'm fine with practicing. Merely commenting.