#Mario RPGs (Mario & Luigi, Paper Mario, ...)

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nocturne sandal
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Ahh you got that title screen lol

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I never did lol

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I always turned off my switch after hitting a save block

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So during that section I never closed the game

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I was too invested to quit lol

edgy wind
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I remember discovering that title screen recently. It's so cool how they made it so dynamic and so far into the game as well

loud crown
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Yeahhh

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It changes with every sea and the progress of the story near the endgame that you're on, it's a really cool touch

loud crown
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I swear ||Reclusa|| gives me such a strong Undertale/Deltarune boss vibe it's insane

crude spade
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You talking about the title screen where ||Reclusa randomly shows up near the camera and starts mocking you||, right? Such a good title screen

loud crown
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Yes, all of the interactions with him that i've seen thus far. His design, his animations and the way he talks makes him fit right in UT/DR

loud crown
crude spade
sharp wind
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Partners in Time

loud crown
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Yes, i also had that in mind when it comes to dark Mario content

loud crown
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||Bonding Can, filled. Side quests, all done||. Praying that the ||Soli-Tree|| isn't another final dungeon that i have to go through before the boss otherwise imma have to delay the finale till another tomorrow because this has gone on for wayyy too long now and my time's running out

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God....

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Whatever, i'm pushing thru

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I'm not even gonna bother with small fry enemies

crude spade
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||Soli-Tree|| is also about the same length as ||Fortress Zokket||, but at least you're doing something different

loud crown
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I can't with this amount of enemies and the ||ufo|| bastards being especially hard to dodge in the overworld....

loud crown
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I just dozed off while doing a puzzle LMAO

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Tbf it was around 3AM when i did it

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Okay, finishing it tonight FR FR this time (100% real) (no clickbait)

crude spade
loud crown
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I'm actually a little disappointed that ||the last piece of the Bonding Can isn't from Mario and Luigi themselves, i was so confident that it'd be the case||

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||When they're hinting at bonds that stems from nemesis i thought it'd be something like Bowser and Starlow or Bowser and his army. Not the Extension Corps lol
But at least we got to see more of their character being fleshed out from it||

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||Speaking of, i adore the Bowser and Starlow's little side quest, it's a direct follow-up and a callback to BiS' ending, it's super sweet and felt like home to Mario and Luigi fans.||

loud crown
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Actually goated music

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Okay time to lock in

crude spade
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The minor key they wrote Heatfreeze Island's theme in is definitely interesting. But interestingly, the theme of Lottacoins' Island's building written in the same key as Heatfreeze Island has a more memorable melody for me. (ngI, I started humming that building theme while playing through Heatfreeze Island last time I went there lol)

loud crown
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||Never have i seen the Mushroom Kingdom and it's cheery vibe being such a big red flag before||

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This game is giving me a false sense of security and i don't like it

shrewd moss
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||that gave me an idea that this uncomfortableness would make Mario drop the Italian accent and goes for a more serious brooklyn accent "hold on Luigi, stay on guard for now, it may not be our average kingdom either."||

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||but i think because of how much the brothers have been through an apocalyptic hellscape, going back to their normal cheery kingdom is a huge whiplash in tone||

loud crown
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||Yeah, like all of this is just too good to be true, the Toad's dialogue are overly optimistic and lacking personality. When you goes up to Peach, they beg you to talk to her, even pointing direction like "You're almost there, Peach is just a couple of inches away from you, go talk to her!". And not to mention we still have the responsibility of saving Concordia from Reclusa. But Luigi look like he's willing to settle down because the guy has been through enough with his fragile self lol||

shrewd moss
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||Luigi has seen too much for a guy his age in this entire RPG series||

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||from Cackletta to the Shroob invasion to going inside Bowser and finishing off Fawful, to entering Dreams, and now went through the apocalypse, yeah i would be jaded too after doing all that||

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||hes been through worse than his main game counterpart who at worst, went through the mansion trilogy,||

loud crown
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||the music's breaking up... nlShockA ||

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||everyone's glitching out...||

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||we're in a pokemon game...||

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||yup... Mario and Luigi's been captured, like i expected as much||

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||the imagery of it is quite disturbing||

shrewd moss
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||the cake was a lie||

crude spade
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tbh, as soon as ||I saw the trees, rocks and mushrooms, I knew we were in the Mushroom Kingdom and I already suspected Mario and Luigi were caught by Reclusa's flowers, which became more and more apparent the longer I played in Peach's Castle courtyard||

loud crown
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||WHITE WOMAN JUMPSCARE||

loud crown
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A save block and a heart block within sight. IT'S TIME!

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||Also Bowser my GOAT||

loud crown
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I've... finally finished Brothership

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Around 60 hours and 50 minutes of in-game playtime 😂

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It's definitely not mid, but it's also not the peakest thing ever. It has apparent flaws but at the end of the day it is a good game :)

nocturne sandal
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Lets gooooo Snips!

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Grats mate

grizzled matrix
loud crown
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Ehhh it's a bit difficult for me because i have not played Dream Team and Paper Jam yet also it's been years since i've played BiS and PiT to properly rank them. But if i have to try then it'll be
1 - Bowser's Inside Story (Fan's favourite for obvious reasons, also playing as Bowser is still one of the coolest thing you can do in a Mario game)
2 - Brothership (A bit of a recency bias. It's probably the most visually pleasing game in the series, the pacing is messy but it had a great story)
3 - Superstar Saga (A classic, although the story narrative is all over the place, i had a soft spot for it for being my childhood favourite)
4 - Partner in Time (My recollection memory of this game is currently foggy so idk, also i remember there are some places here and there that felt visually incomplete to me when compared to BiS)
5 - Paper Jam (I haven't played the game yet but i'll just put it here because it's universally agreed upon as being the weakest one in the series due to it's blandness and an uninspiring misopportuned flop)

gloomy halo
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paper jam has the best combat in the series hands down

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doesnt make it... better

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but it very much has that

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Snips stop what you are doing rn go play peak team

loud crown
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My broke ass don't got no 3ds or a PC in my possession rn 😭

nocturne sandal
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Yeah wtf you doing

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Play dream team

loud crown
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-# And my weakass phone can't run shit in it

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Sorry for being poor 😔

shrewd moss
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do the infinite money glitch, it saves you so much time

loud crown
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Woah there, sorry but this isn't 2012
I have an unwritten vow as a proper gamer to not use cheat codes on games that aren't old pokemon no more, especially one that i haven't even played yet, acclaimed peak at that

shrewd moss
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ah i see, well you have the option there just in case, you probably wont see much use of it now, but i'll tell you that you will get desperate one day, and then BAM, its probably not a guarantee, but it would be really funny to see

loud crown
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Nah i like grinding, it's good time management for one who had very little of that nlClueless

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But if i were to not get enough money to buy good gears or items then i'm up for a challenge, love me a little bit of that

shrewd moss
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gotcha, just dont end up like Yoshi who tried to do the glitch, the government still has him as their target

loud crown
frozen vapor
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He just ||mentions the mushroom kingdom once|| and ||Mario wants to obliterate his TV face in half||

shrewd moss
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||Mario was fine with everything until he mentioned going to the mushroom kingdom, he mama'd his last mia with that one, Mario is going to deck you in the face until you are gone||

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||you DONT f- with his home turf, because that also means messing with his delicious spaghetti or the cakes peach makes, and Mario will kill anyone who tries to ruin his love for food||

shrewd moss
loud crown
shy nest
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Anyone think Brothrship will run better on Switch 2?

loud crown
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Most likely?

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Most games should be running better on Switch 2 i feel like

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But what do i know

nocturne sandal
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I know xeno 2 and pokemon scarlet and violet needs it nlClueless

loud crown
gloomy halo
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watch it run worse on the switch 2 as a result

crude spade
loud crown
sharp wind
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||Yeah, that was based off of clockout blow||

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||Nice SMRPG reference too||

loud crown
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I like the part where Mario and Luigi said: "Now we'll show you the true power of our Brothership and then after that the villain goes: "This is... So this is Mario and Luigi's Brothership", explodes into a million pieces and then it hard cut into the game's credits. Absolute cinema

gloomy halo
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who up brother they ship

frozen vapor
haughty sage
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I can hear this drawing

sharp wind
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I never considered how absolutely buff Bowser is 💀

loud crown
crude spade
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lmao

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let bro stretch for a bit

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at least he never misses leg day

shrewd moss
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i dont remember my luigi being that stretchy

gloomy halo
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It’s Waluigi

grizzled matrix
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Look at what I've got!

crude spade
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Nice. Have fun, bas!

haughty sage
loud crown
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Where's the mittens??

haughty sage
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Oh you’re right lmao

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If only they had a unique graphic

loud crown
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Also i like that Mario and Luigi are wearing scarves of each other's color, very cute

loud crown
loud crown
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Is this really my humor now

shrewd moss
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short answer? yes. long answer? ANAMATATAMBEHRHEMAHAH, YADADBUDADADRAGOU

frozen vapor
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we are so back

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TTYD remake has sold over 2.06 million copies

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120k copies in 3 months after its release

loud crown
frozen vapor
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also

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3.3 million on the Mario RPG remake

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HOLY

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on par with Origami King, Super Paper and Bowsers inside story

shrewd moss
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i knew that the classic Mario RPG's being revived from the dead and faithfully done for the switch would sell like hotcakes

frozen vapor
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aside from it being a really amazing faithful remake to an iconic game, i also just really love for its accessibility

shrewd moss
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glad to see them selling really great

frozen vapor
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like this is one of the few RPGs were everyone can simply pick it up and enjoy it

loud crown
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I have no idea Color Splash's marketing status were that pitiful LMAO
It's even worse than Paper Jam and it's sayin' somethin

frozen vapor
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and well, shocking how something that wouldve been 20 hours long and even its completion time doesnt reach 15 hours

frozen vapor
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im one of those 870K lol

shrewd moss
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i know this sounds unlikely but at the same time, all these spinoff rpgs coming back at all was unlikely too at one point, but here we are. i propose a thought for Switch 2 in the future if they are up for it

the long awaited Super Mario RPG 2, a new Paper Mario that returns back to the classic style from 64/TTYD, and a new M&L continuation game (post Brothership)

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i say that as they are starting to find their footing back at being alive, and it will take some time till they get their groove back fully to go for these new titles, but its a start

frozen vapor
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its clear that it was a really anticipated remake

loud crown
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For a couple seconds the gears didn't turn in my head and made me thought TOK stands for Zelda's Tears of the Kingdom lol

shrewd moss
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people figured or had a feeling that Paper Mario or M&L would get a new title somewhere in the future, even when both of them were at their lowest, Paper Mario was struggling and the M&L series went on hiatus after AlphaDream went bankrupt

shrewd moss
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but no one could have imagine the original Mario RPG to return in a remake, that took me by surprise

frozen vapor
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part of me made me think it was the first letters of my name

loud crown
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LOL

shrewd moss
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holy crap, King Olly was a discord user this whole time, and liked Oshawott a lot

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and probably hates the Toad species

loud crown
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Racism nlYahoo

shrewd moss
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racism lore in mario be like

crude spade
loud crown
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Is Origami King really that good?

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I used to hear it being mid

grizzled matrix
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Compared to the other rpgs...yes
Compared to other paper mario games...also yes

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But on itself, it's a 7/10 game

gloomy halo
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It’s one of the best looking switch games imo

frozen vapor
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I gotta say

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literally everything outside of the battling part

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I enjoyed

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Im proly just a dum dum but the fights were genuinely not fun for me

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but aside from all that, pretty much everything else they nailed it

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its the most visually appealing Paper Mario game yet, the humor is on point, music is obviously amazing

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Finding toads was honestly the best part about it

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still am obsessed with the part where it just turns into literally Wind Waker for some reason

loud crown
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Noted, i'll definitely give it a try some time in the future then

gloomy halo
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Combat is unique but it’s yeah

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There’s still no major incentive for battles

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I like what they are going for and you do genuinely want coins if you’re trying to get collectibles

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I guess it’s better than what came before?

loud crown
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I was aboutta make a joke about Luigi nose measure but then it started to become genuine
Why does art always gotta be like this bruh 😭

frozen vapor
frozen vapor
haughty sage
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Technikki!

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Oh they’ve drawn a bunch of the rest of the supporting cast as well

frozen vapor
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cat

haughty sage
loud crown
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Cinema

haughty sage
loud crown
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It impresses me how people are able to wrote down their gibberish into actual sentences lol

gloomy halo
loud crown
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Was that an actual fun fact and not just him improvising?

gloomy halo
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i dont know im just being a smartass

loud crown
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You may be a smartass but you're far from being a cleverass nlSmugA

gloomy halo
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you either a smart fella or a fart smella

frozen vapor
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Ive been recently

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trying to 100% Origami King

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4 years after ive already beaten the main story and beated the final boss

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gotta say that i am more of a fan of finding the toads and the treasures that ive missed in my original playthrough because im just happy that i dont have to deal with the fighting lol

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tho one of the treasures i need to obtain is in Toad Town and my only form of getting it is by doing Boss fight refights

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since i recently started replaying this game i have to admit that i got more used to the battling system, but i overall had a much more positive look on the battle system thats used for the enemies

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the boss fights however i ended up having a much more negative reaction towards them because of said battle system

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theres a simple nitpick that i have for them

frozen vapor
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If they simply removed the timer in the boss fight battle system then i wouldve preferred them alot more

tough ore
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there'd be no challenge at all without the timer. you could just set up the perfect path every turn.
i personally enjoyed the battle system but i understand why it's controversial. however, simply removing the timer without changing anything else would make it worse.

haughty sage
loud crown
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My goodness that is pretty

formal merlin
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Man that’s awesome

haughty sage
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They weren’t even done cooking?!

formal merlin
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Nice lol

loud crown
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This is so peak

vivid forge
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ok now that I've beaten Brothership I need to ask, I've seen kind of a lot of different opinions on the matter:
on a scale of 1-10, where 1 is "I could beat this with my eyes closed" and 10 is "actually just a rage game", how hard did you guys find the game?

nocturne sandal
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For me at least

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A lot of us do agree it might be the hardest game out of all of tbem tbh

crude spade
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I should also say that prior to Brothership I haven't played a Mario & Luigi game in a long time

loud crown
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It's between 6 and 7 for me, definitely one of the harder game in the series but still completely doable. However the difficulty can be heavily neutralized if you can take advantage of the plugs effectively, they gave you a lot of useful, sometimes outright broken tools at your disposal. I just happened to not rely on them too much because i respect any kind of challenge that comes my way.
The most difficulty that i've had with the game is definitely the boss rematches, my smug underleveled ass coming at the 3rd rematch got humbled real hard lmao
The difficulty on the final boss is honestly pretty underwhelming imo

loud crown
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I watched a playthrough of a Youtuber and they defeated the final boss in like 3 or 4 turns and it's just their casual playthrough
I felt a little embarrassed for the game 😭

crude spade
loud crown
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How self-destructive would you be to do a challenge run for this game without plugs lol

crude spade
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It's the same as doing Splatoon 3's Side Order without any hacks

loud crown
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Lmao

gloomy halo
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I really have to get back to Brothership

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Battles are lowk less engaging than previous games I think that’s my main reason

tough ore
vivid forge
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... i think i need to replay dream team LMFAO

vivid forge
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I'm really interested about people saying it's the hardest in the series -- I'd only ever played Dream Team before Brothership and I explicitly remember that game kicking the absolute daylights out of me. ig I was not very good at games when I was 10

formal merlin
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Tbf dream team also explicitly has a hard mode

vivid forge
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100% I did not pick hard mode

haughty sage
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‘s about right

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It was hype though

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||Funny experience, when I got Mario’s final Bros Attack I didn’t realize you’re supposed to aim the reticle at the end, but even if you miss the enemy you still get an excellent for getting all the planets so I thought I was doing it right and the attack just sucked||

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||Didn’t realize my mistake until halfway up the Solitree||

frozen vapor
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Reviving the chat

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Cus im here to say that

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Im almost done my journey of 100%ing Origami King

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I just did a Shy guys finish last perfect game and all thats left is the little ringer minigame located in toad town

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I just wanna mention that

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Why does this game have a banger ass ost

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One of the best boss themes i heard in recent mempry, and it plays when fighting a stapler

loud crown
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Oh shoot i forgor that i can document my TTYD playthrough here

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So uhhh i decided to take on the Pit of 100 Trials last night before going into Chapter 7

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And on the 98th floor i randomly encountered two freakin golden Amaze Dayzee

frozen vapor
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I went as far as level 95

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But i noticed i was lowkey weak, even after beating the game

loud crown
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I tried to make a quick work of them with Bobbery's Bob-ombast and Art Attack but failed to knock out the second one with the afromentioned Special Move

obsidian ocean
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The last 20 floors has the toughest monsters in the game

loud crown
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And they freakin hit me with a 20 BASE POWER SING ATTACK and then putted me and my partner to sleep on top of that, which sealed my fate

frozen vapor
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My main has been Vivian

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She lowkey life saver

loud crown
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Thank god TTYD allowed me the option to restart a level after a Game Over

frozen vapor
frozen vapor
loud crown
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I thought for a moment that the encounter with the enemy on floor 98th would've been rerolled with a different set of enemies but no, the two golden Amaze Dayzee is still there

frozen vapor
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Did you got them?

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Iirc Admiral Bobbery can take em out before they run away

loud crown
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I took liberties this time around and only primarily focus on those two yellow buffoons with Art Attack instead of circling around every enemy on the battlefield

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And then made quick work of them

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And guess what they rewarded me with...

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Holy freakin moly

frozen vapor
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Yea

loud crown
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I also barely gained enough star point (50) to level up once again before the final floor with the boss, which is EXTREMELY convenient to me

frozen vapor
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Speaking of staplers

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I still have this art Yami made back in 2021

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Its peak

loud crown
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I went into this pit at only like lv18, i came out of it at 26...

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The rest of the game is gonna be cakewalk...

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Also i first-tried the entire pit in one sitting...

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The last 50 floors honestly got me sweating a little

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And my perfectionist ass wanted me to spend some turns with Goombella to Tattle the enemies for the gallery lol

gloomy halo
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you should do it again at a later point

loud crown
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Which made the battles slightly harder than they need to be

loud crown
obsidian ocean
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Do you want a spoiler?

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Non-story

loud crown
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||is there like a rematch with Bonetail??||

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||That is even harder??||

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||Well i suppose Bonetail was never really that difficult to begin with||

gloomy halo
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im just saying its not a one and done thing

loud crown
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👀

obsidian ocean
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||Bonetail kind of a joke yeah||

gloomy halo
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oh my god we need paper mario OSTs on NSO music

gloomy halo
frozen vapor
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I only have one left to complete

gloomy halo
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this game has so many instant death moments lmao

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which one

frozen vapor
# gloomy halo which one

Theres a little battle area in Toad town where you can do stuff like practices your action commands, blocks but mainly theres boss fight refights and a little minigame where you solve ring puzzles

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I did the refights but i havent done the speed ring puzzles

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Which is solve at least 16 of them in under a 100 second time limit

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oh and the puzzles are randomized

gloomy halo
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in my second run im on my way to the badgeless achievement

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but not deathless...

frozen vapor
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Oh you talkin but ttyd

gloomy halo
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No this is TOK

frozen vapor
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Thought you meant TOK lol

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oh

gloomy halo
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you get 2-3 achievemnts after you clear the game

frozen vapor
obsidian ocean
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But it did improve my regular battles doing it

frozen vapor
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Before i gave up

obsidian ocean
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It's all about pattern recognition

frozen vapor
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that

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And memory

gloomy halo
frozen vapor
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oh

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I see

gloomy halo
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theres no way to track it in-game until you beat the game

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yeahh

frozen vapor
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well i pretty much got everything except the speed ring trophy

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oh and i guess the max hp upgrades

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I will soon complete TTYD tho

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all thats left is the aforementioned pits

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The new bosses they added

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like 5 or 6 tattle logs

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and all the recipes

loud crown
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Really shivering my timbers

obsidian ocean
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I mean the remake OST in general bangs

loud crown
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Yeah they did the soundtrack justice

gloomy halo
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The puni match theme sounds so silly in the remake I love it

loud crown
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This is one of my personal favourite overworld theme (so far), the stutters really stimulates my autistic brain
https://youtu.be/rDhg6T6_41s

The Pirates' Cove - Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door OST
Sound Director: Yoshito Sekigawa
Composers: Yoshito Sekigawa, Kazuki Komai, Fumihiro Isobe
Platform: Nintendo Switch

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2XjmdkuVL-1-dMw0l9xxfxcjaMlsIUCt

Disclaimer: This soundtrack has been uploaded by Yoshi's VGM for entertainment purpos...

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The second round in the Pit of 100 Trials might actually gonna be harder for me because of my more limitted stat refill from the level ups, which i've been heavily rely on to keep my characters in shape lol

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I'm gonna revisit it after chapter 7 is done

gloomy halo
loud crown
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Hmmm

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Okay please spoil me on this lol

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I wanna make sure i don't miss out on anything in my revisit because of me getting impatient to tackle it again

gloomy halo
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I’ll spare some details but

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||yes there is a new boss that replaces bonetail||

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||there are some conditions for it to spawn||

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But idk how to explain without spoiling bc it’s funny if you don’t know

loud crown
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Huh

gloomy halo
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Like it’s funny when you find it yourself not that im making fun of you for not knowing

loud crown
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Am i sure to trigger it during my casual playthrough through the story?

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Or is there like a sidequest or hidden stuff i should do?

gloomy halo
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Ah sorry

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I just looked it up rq

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It’s a post game boss

loud crown
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Oh

gloomy halo
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So what I said still stands

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But I forgot it’s post game

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I thought it was main story because uou can technically trigger the boss the spawn in the main game

loud crown
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Wait can you still stroll around the areas after the final boss or should you need to reload your save file after you beat the final boss?

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Sorry i'm asking a lot here lol

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I am a very paranoid gamer

gloomy halo
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No I get it 😭

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Im oretty sure its after the final boss

loud crown
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Gotcha

gloomy halo
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So you don’t from before that

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Botw style

loud crown
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I'll postpone my revisit till the post game then

obsidian ocean
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I'll say this, it doesn't spawn until the game tells you to but I also don't think you'll figure it out on your own unless you're a certain type of player

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(But yeah don't go back in unless you want to waste your time until you get an in game email telling you something's been spotted in the bottom floor of the pit or something like that)

frozen vapor
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Im a simple guy

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Shoutouts to Movers.

00:00 - Pit of 100 Trials Theme Upper Level (Type A)
02:08 - Pit of 100 Trials Theme Upper Level (Type A & B)
04:16 - Pit of 100 Trials Theme Upper Level (Type B)
05:20 - Pit of 100 Trials Theme Lower Level (Type C)
06:24 - Pit of 100 Trials Theme Lower Level (Type C & D)
08:32 - Pit of 100 Trials Theme Lower Level (Type D)

▶ Play video
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And im overall a big fan of the main theme of the pits

frozen vapor
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I personally prefer like 1 or 2 tracks from the original over the remixes but

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Overall i will take the new versions

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Any day of the week

obsidian ocean
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Yeah some people are just blinded by nostalgia

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It's not perfect but the remixes are overall superior

frozen vapor
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Doopliss' battle theme in the remake was genuinely amazing

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Had that balance of genuinely unsettling chaotic horror while also being an over the top boss theme

frozen vapor
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They pretty much captured the vibe of being in a mysterious, atmospheric, puzzling, catacomb that does feel like you are traveling through a dungeon with spiritual yet dangerous aura

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You wanna know something

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Im always tackling the pit of 100 trials while its cloudy/raining

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Idk why

icy narwhal
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good vibes tbf

icy narwhal
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And adding unique themes for different chapters + bosses that deserved it like ||Crump||, ||Gloomtail|| and ||Bonetail|| especially. Really nice bit of extra effort

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I did it

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Origami King has been completed

loud crown
loud crown
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New favourite, no doubts

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And the fact that it's different on every floor?!

icy narwhal
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Finally got around to beating Brothership

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I can’t lie the ||bonds backtracking section after hyping myself up for Zocket was a pretty miserable experience which I did not enjoy…||
||But I’d say thankfully the final area and boss pretty much made up for that. Soli-tree had a few annoying rooms but other than that I had a better time than expected. Couldn’t have ended a ton better I think with what they had going||

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Just initial impressions but tldr uhhh pretty good

nocturne sandal
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seems about right

haughty sage
crude spade
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Nice to see all the main characters from all the games

loud crown
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WE LOVE JAPAN‼️

formal merlin
frozen vapor
frozen vapor
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Reviving this thread

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For a reason

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👀

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Youll see just gimme a second

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Ok actually give me more than just a second

grizzled matrix
frozen vapor
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Alright sorry for taking a while

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Im back to playing Bowsers Inside Story

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And it has come to my attention that i guess young me was apparently trying to speedrun the game because omg

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I missed alot of stuff

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No wonder i was struggling with the final boss, i was heavily underleveled

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So uh yea

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Ive been doing the challenges

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Some of them are fun but some of them omg

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My hands hurt

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I hate the Jump Helmet

frozen vapor
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I got B rank in Super Bouncer, You Who Cannon and Jump Helmet

haughty sage
frozen vapor
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Japanese Paper Mario artists are on a whole different level

haughty sage
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Maribou's just goated

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Been following them for a while