#Claymatic Wiki Forum

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humble vector
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WDYM by ICO image? :3

near sail
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This is an ICO image.

humble vector
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Ah, gotcha.

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humble vector
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That will be for the website icon I assume.

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young tendon
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isn't it? The admin settings are separated so ig there's no actual dashboard

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or you mean the mediawiki dashboard?

near sail
# young tendon

So, from the looks of it — it seems like a Miraheze complication.

humble vector
near sail
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So, @young tendon, what was the decision behind having the wiki be on Miraheze?

humble vector
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humble vector
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Is there a standard for .ico resolutions?

young tendon
humble vector
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humble vector
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young tendon
humble vector
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young tendon
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ik miraheze is complex for others who come out from fandom but atleast its very customizable, allows custom domains unlike the other popular wiki hosting alternative (wiki.gg), uses up-to-date mediawiki

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and even its non-profit

near sail
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I am aware.

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The Fandom vs. Miraheze discussion is similar to Windows vs. Linux.

young tendon
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yup, I main Linux since 2023

humble vector
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To anyone else, it is worth noting that MacEvil already had 6 years of wiki management experience.

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IIRC

near sail
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I would say for like 95% of users — their go-to should be Fandom, however, the 5% that actually knows how to utilize the accessibility in customization that Miraheze allows — Miraheze is for them.

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Nonetheless, there are other factors to it too.

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For an example one may value Fandom more due to their history and the fact that it has been established for quite some time — an important factor for long-term existence of wiki data, on the other hand — Miraheze still needs to establish itself more profoundly, which will take a few more years.

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There also comes the factor of availability — Fandom is quicker to respond than Miraheze when there are issues.

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Miraheze is volunteer‐based after all.

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Nonetheless, currently the best wiki‐hosting service is Weird Gloop, but they are kind of a gated community of the wiki world.

humble vector
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Ah yes, the hosting service minecraft.wiki uses.

young tendon
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but TIL

near sail
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I would like to hear of all yours qualifications when it comes HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

young tendon
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I haven't learned CSS but I try to get some help on miraheze's discord involving css customizations

near sail
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Can you send me a link for their server?

young tendon
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oh fuck

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I forgot to mail chris from c64 audio regarding the use of the soundtracks in the wiki

humble vector
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Yes, please do so. zesty_chipCyan

near sail
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Very well…

hidden breach
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Spikyyn got this response

humble vector
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This is what Sillytuna once said to me way earlier regarding OST distribution.

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Honestly, this sounds kinda contradictory, seeing that both claim that the decision isn't up to them.

hidden breach
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"if we could still host the files, then we have to limit them to either lower quality or cut to first 30 seconds of the musics" - Spikyyn

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Hahah yeah

near sail
hidden breach
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Hmm is there a mistake here?

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It says there are 4 fireballs in 5-3 but I have found 0

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Are you able to flip boxing gloves into them or something?

humble vector
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Yes, there are.

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There are actually only three BoxingGloveFireballStar on L5A3, according to level5_data.plat.

hidden breach
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Oh wait there's probably rockets-fireball

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Idk why I didn't think to flip that

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Nvm there isn't

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Okay no, there are only 3 fireball stars here

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Ah you corrected it already

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Also I am honestly struggling with figuring out what does more damage, meleeing stuff or melee into charge

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It feels like sometimes, esp with pods, the latter is stronger, but sometimes not

hidden breach
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Haven't checked the exact time yet but it seems that, at least against boss 4, melee is better without pods, but melee into release charge is better with pods

hidden breach
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https://youtu.be/RuvLIZo8ySw
Lemme know whatcha think. I wanted to explain melee vs melee into release charge a bit more but honestly, I couldn't bring myself to do it. It's hard to tell when the former is better, and when the latter is

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So I just showed the two options and said either one can be better than the other depending on the situation

hidden breach
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But also

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it's really hard to measure it and get a realistic time. Even on just hard difficulty...because either I restart a fuckton till I get a run where I am focused on the boss exclusively and somehow don't die to all its minions (and the missiles, which kill me more often than you'd think), or I kill the minions too, if they're too much of an obstacle, but lose time and make this less reliable

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The melee into release charge move (I need a better name for that btw, seriously) is especially funky to perform

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I mean this is basically what I expected going into this guide specifically, it would be the hardest one to make properly. But I think it turned out fine enough

hidden breach
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Will do voiceover tomorrow, after I get your input too

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Hopefully I will have the time

humble vector
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I wonder if spam-firing would deal a lot of damage.

hidden breach
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It's surprisingly decent. But not as good as just using it normally

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At least from the looks of it

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And also not worth it at all given your finger will hurt afterwards

humble vector
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But I can at least imagine it'll still deal more damage than Auto Fire.

hidden breach
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Possible

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But if you spamfire it's likely because you need to deal with minor enemies, not major ones

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Also funny thing is, I did try it before, and yes, autofire would work fine in 1-3 in place of fireball spam

humble vector
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Also, fireball spam only shoots one small projectile, which has lower area coverage than Autocannon, which fires two projectiles at a time.

hidden breach
# hidden breach Also funny thing is, I did try it before, and yes, autofire would work fine in 1...

I really didn't want to spamfire fireball every time I play that area, once I get around to doing that perfect run, so I wanted to try rockets or cheese first. Rockets turned out...about as well as you'd expect against enemy spam, and flipping into cheese takes forever. But then I thought to myself, "what if I just don't take that star at all?" and that was apparently the solution xd
Which is how I learned that autofire works just fine there

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Yeah

humble vector
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Hotdogs worked pretty well on the early demo version, back when it only had 3 areas.

hidden breach
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Wait, is it a rockets/fireball/hotdogs star? I could have sworn it was cheese

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Though it doesn't matter. The problem is not in the weapon, but rather the fact it takes too long to flip into it. Minor enemies will fly past you by the time you get it

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This is like one of the only times I've ever seen this be an issue tbh

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Like, a weapon just taking too many flips to be worth

humble vector
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Previously, it was just a hotdog star.

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And then fireball-cheese star.

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And finally, fireball-rocket star.

hidden breach
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You nean fireball-rocket-cheese?

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It still has the cheese

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I am 90% sure of it

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I can verify tomorrow maybe

humble vector
hidden breach
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It's fireball, rocket, fireball, rocket, cheese

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If that's what you're asking

humble vector
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Might as well mention that a charging fireball despawns when on the far right screen.

hidden breach
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Ig

hidden breach
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But yeah, there's none

hidden breach
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Here

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Ya know what to do

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@humble vector

humble vector
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Currently reviewing. squint

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Gotta love how you call the fireball on the far right a funny little quirk. :3

hidden breach
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Yes

humble vector
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Published successfully. anthony_kiwi

hidden breach
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Noice

humble vector
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The 4 remaining guides are just simple food weapons. :p

hidden breach
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Now, just the hidden weapons left

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Yeah

hidden breach
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Btw, one funky thing I forgot to mention regarding the video's production, I did struggle a bit with the voiceover thanks to the fact I haven't done one in a while. But also, I struggled particularly with any sentences that had the word "melee". I normally pronounce it differently but figured that for the video, I should pronounce it correctly. Turns out it's a bit difficult when you're so used to an entirely different pronounciation xd

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Idk how to even explain how exactly I would pronounce it normally but yeah

near sail
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Hello, I am MacEvil.

hidden breach
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Yo, what's up?

lean blade
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[The pixel version of an alien secretly appeared in Anthony's summer project in Anthony Flack's YouTube channel]

If you haven’t watch his summer project video, you’ll find the pixel ver. of an alien like a secret Easter egg {owo}

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-# (A trivia for the aliens)

hidden breach
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Man, so many assumptions leading to other assumptions

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The fireball doesn't lose projectile speed as it travels, right? Pretty sure it only gains it, never loses it

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Or at least I never noticed it losing speed

humble vector
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Yeah, it only accelerates.

hidden breach
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Ty

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I had to make sure

near sail
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Could we get someone from Claymatic to create a channel for Recent Changes on the wiki?

hidden breach
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Like, a channel on this server that would send a message whenever someone makes changes on the wiki?

near sail
hidden breach
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Hmm

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@tacit fox

hidden breach
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Are there really 2 fish stars in 2-4?

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I am fairly certain I flipped all stars there but never found the second

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Only found one

humble vector
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There is fish from onigiri-carrying dragonfly.

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At the beginning of L2A4.

hidden breach
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omfg

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Ty

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That's so random

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What even is this man

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There is only one fish powerup in 3-5 and you're telling me it's together with the one lightning star at the end of the fight? lol

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What kind of a troll is this

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And ofc I take a hit the moment I take it

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It took forever to get to that part of the fight, I'm not redoing that lmao

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no one will take fish here anyway

humble vector
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Excerpt from level3_data.plat

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And this is how lightning is defined by default:

hidden breach
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Playing through 4-3 with fish makes me wish I had attempted it in testing

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This is so bad

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The intention behind giving fish there was so players had more opportunities to get them for the achievement

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The thing is that good players that are able to survive here with fish will not need this fish to begin with, while players who can't will just lose the fish immediately anyway

humble vector
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Yeah, I already see why.

hidden breach
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It's not so bad in some other areas, but here it's actually terrible

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Given usually during the spammiest sections of the area too

humble vector
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Getting "On A Platter" achievement can be completed as early as Level 3.

hidden breach
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Fnuy

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Also

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This thing is surprisingly bad at dealing with lightning starfish

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Or at least it feels that way

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It's actually so damn prone to getting its shots blocked

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Actually, it's not surprising

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I remember having this issue when trying to use sausages in 4-1 too

humble vector
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Lightning allows you to kill them before they fire back.

hidden breach
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So makes sense the fish would have the same issue

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But I wonder why it's even so bad

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Ig because it goes in an arc so it really struggles with avoiding the lightning

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Also

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I think this weapon might actually confidently be the 3rd worst weapon for me

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This thing is actually so bad man

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Ik it's a meme and all, but gameplay-wise it feels worse than almost all weapons

humble vector
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I mean, it has the lowest overall DPS among all food weapons.

hidden breach
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Yeah but it's worse even compared to most of the normal weapons

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Maybe better than sonic pulse and homing missiles...

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I'm on 4-5, I assume the fish is again going to be together with the lightning star at the end

humble vector
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I see that you see Sonic Pulse probably as your second worst weapon.

hidden breach
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The thing is that I see a use for it unlike with fish

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Like I can see myself using it in specific parts of the game

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Mainly the first minefield

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It's not much but it's a use

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The fish is kinda just, idk when I'd ever wanna use this thing

humble vector
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IG Fish and Homing Missiles are your bottom two weapons.

hidden breach
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Probably

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I expected it to be bad tbf, just not this much

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I never use this weapon normally, and now I see why

humble vector
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Now what do you think of Sausages, even if it is hilariously elusive?

hidden breach
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Idk yet

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Still doing fish

humble vector
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Gotcha.

hidden breach
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Surprisingly the weapon is actually far more usable with pods

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Or maybe it's not surprising idk

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but yeah

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It's incredible, genuinely

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Pods make this into a different weapon, I swear

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This is one of the biggest power spikes I've ever seen when it comes to weapon pods in this game

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Mind you, it's far from the best still but now it's very usable

hidden breach
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Well sausages are pretty much what I expected

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Fish, if it didn't take getting Weapon Pods to be usable

hidden breach
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Uploaded to wrong channel

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but anyway

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@humble vector

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Given how much I complained, I thought I'd have more to say

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I did sort of have to rush this midway through cuz I had someone over and didn't wanna keep him waiting too long but I think I covered most things I could

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The sausages section in particular is hella short and not too informative because it's literally fish but usable without pods, and because this thing almost never appears

humble vector
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Yeah, I don't have anything else to say either.

hidden breach
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Gotcha

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Will voiceover tomorrow hopefully

humble vector
hidden breach
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I just finished voiceovering ;-;

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I'm not adding that now

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I'll mention it in the description or something

latent heart
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-# let comment cook :3

hidden breach
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@humble vector

humble vector
hidden breach
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Omg

humble vector
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Yeah, I noticed there aren't any voice clips in the linked video.

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With the exception of the draft video though.

hidden breach
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Oh wtf

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How did that happen...

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I'll try again in a couple minutes

humble vector
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Anyway, I already published the draft video that contained the voiceovers.

hidden breach
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Oh did I edit the wrong video's info

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Lol

humble vector
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Yeah

hidden breach
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Funny

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Anyway ty

humble vector
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Okay @young tendon, there are three private videos that can be deleted.

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Nevertheless, things are going real fast with how simple many food weapons are. :D

hidden breach
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I would like to get the remaining 3 guides out before the month ends

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No idea how long the next two will be but Hearts is provavly going to be short

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I still have 0 clue what I'll say for this next video honestly

humble vector
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Riceballs, Burgers, and Donuts, LOL.

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Burgers and onigiri are more similar to each other than they do with donuts.

hidden breach
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Yeah cuz the donuts are faster

humble vector
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And the direction sync with pods.

hidden breach
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Yeah

lean blade
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I found a continuous information of Cletus Clay, would add em’ later

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Does the wiki rule says that I need to put the reference so they can see where it comes from?

hidden breach
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I mean it's a wiki, including references is generally a good idea, right?

hidden breach
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Remember how I would show sped up footage of certain weapons obliterating bosses? Thinking of whether or not to do the same for donuts. Well provided they can even kill a boss on their own. Maybe with pods and wyvern only. But then I thought that it may not be worth it anyway since this would be a very similar showcase to rockets and hotdogs, but just slightly worse...

dull light
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Gotta continue editing some of the weapon pages for now.

hidden breach
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You mean you're editing stuff?

dull light
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Yes

hidden breach
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Nice

humble vector
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Also added a trivia about boxing glove based on the fun fact drop you made during the Casinopolis stream. :3

hidden breach
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Oh, the way it worked in beta you mean?

humble vector
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Yeah.

hidden breach
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Lol nice

lean blade
near sail
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Okay, there really needs to be more logistics talk.

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There should be a collective page for all the Stars.

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Instead of just travelling to different Star pages for data.

hidden breach
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What does collective mean exactly?

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humble vector
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Where we can see all the star stats inside a single page?

near sail
humble vector
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I see.

near sail
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It just is a bit difficulty to navigate all of them.

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There should also be table of stars for all respective Star pages.

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For easier navigation.

near sail
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Also, you should definitely ask Claymatic Studios to give direct information regarding the stats of the Stars.

humble vector
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Like, the ones we can't reliably find in the Mod Starter Pack?

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I mean, most of the stats came from that.

near sail
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From what I notice, some of the things you guys do get wrong regarding the Stars.

humble vector
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Sonic Pulse, Fireball, and Lightning however aren't consistent, which is why their stats look blank.

near sail
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Meanwhile.

humble vector
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the inconsistencies of hearts.

near sail
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Also, I noticed that stats regarding the Wyvern buff are not added.

humble vector
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That's because each star stats show the base damage.

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Platypus and Plover have 1.0x damage multiplier, whereas Wyvern has 1.2x multiplier.

near sail
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Yes, I know that.

humble vector
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OFC, I think full stats would preferrably be displayed inside the gameplay section.

near sail
humble vector
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Instead of in alphabetical order?

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Anyway, gotcha.

near sail
humble vector
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I'm already working on it. :D

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With that aside, I'm just curious regarding your rationale behind the rearrangement.

near sail
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They are kind of more “used to this”.

humble vector
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Honestly makes sense now that I think about it.

near sail
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For an example, is not it weird that Wide Shot is the last of Regular Stars in the table even though it is the first Star we see?

hidden breach
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Yeah true

hidden breach
humble vector
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Sonic Pulse, Fireball, and Lightning.

hidden breach
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Yea

near sail
hidden breach
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Actually, the hearts would be nice to know about too

humble vector
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Hearts and Boxing Glove tho have some inconsistencies.

hidden breach
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Cuz, we don't know the actual rate at which the small hearts get spewed out, right?

humble vector
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Yeah.

hidden breach
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Pretty sure I just measured the rate myself in-game

humble vector
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I remember you and Neon had to guess by observation back then.

hidden breach
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So it is very much an approximation

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As for boxing gloves, I think Neon guesstimated those

near sail
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I would be interested to see the formula for the Sonic Pusle.

hidden breach
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Or you mean all weapons in general?

humble vector
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Any other projectile weapon are pretty much covered by the Mod Starter Pack.

near sail
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Also, what is the rotational period of the Pods?

humble vector
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We actually don't know, unless we do approximation.

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But then again, I think we'd preferably ask the likes of @topaz hare for all those internal stats.

hidden breach
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Did he not say he's no longer working for Claymatic? He might not have this stuff availavle

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Or maybe he has some of it but idk

humble vector
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The thing is, he's still technically here for the server, as he is looking to help out decompile Platypus II level files.

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It's just that he'd probably do so on Monday.

hidden breach
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Ah

humble vector
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#1419274495012765838 message

hidden breach
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I see

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But there is another way to get an answer more easily, which is having me ask personally elsewhere

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However you already pinged Kroporo so I will wait for a response on that

humble vector
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Yeah.

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He is currently offline however.

hidden breach
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Yeag

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So will have to wait for some time ig

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But that's ok, we're not in a rush really

humble vector
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Got the base damage from entities_player_shots.json.

hidden breach
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Wait, this is in there? Lol

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Omfg

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0.8, amazing

humble vector
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That was added in Patch 2 IIRC.

hidden breach
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Wow

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This thing must have a stupidly high fire rate then

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Oh, fun fact

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The Lightning actually got nerfed during beta at some point

humble vector
hidden breach
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It used to destroy stuff as if all enemies were made out of plastic or something

near sail
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I like Lightning.

humble vector
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Reminds me of Lightning's performance in current Classic mode.

hidden breach
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I forget if the nerf also applied to classic

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It might

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So it may have been more stupid in the past

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But not 100% on that

hidden breach
humble vector
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Apparently, there is another parameter that determines how susceptible the enemy is to lightning, etc.

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The lower the collision sprite scale, the higher resistance the enemy has toward those damage per pixel weapons like pulse.

near sail
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Also, I forgot, as a wiki — you will need to list the values for all Platypus games.

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Platypus I, II & Reclayed and Classic in the Reclayed.

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So, yes…

humble vector
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Probably the ones that are most relevant to regular players.

near sail
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Technically, a wiki should always strive for the as detailed as possible explanations.

hidden breach
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That's true

humble vector
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Is this good enough?

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Should "per pixel" be changed to something more accurate?

near sail
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Feels correct.

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Do we know the slurping radius for fruits?

humble vector
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Sadly no, at least the code behind that.

near sail
humble vector
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We would be interested to have the full details of each people's contributions to the game.

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Like MacEvil said, a wiki is a place for all the knowledge of a given topic, even if not relevant in the grand scheme of things.

hidden breach
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Well you know my contribution already

humble vector
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Yup

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QA/beta testing

topaz hare
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@hidden breach @humble vector Do remind me on Monday! I'm not technically tasked to work for Claymatic, but I'm still around to help out

young tendon
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not anymore.

dull light
humble vector
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Due to licensing and stuff.

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We can't legally distribute any audio files in the wiki.

dull light
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Ok...

hidden breach
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I noticed the amount of rocket stars is 6 in 3-5 here but it's actually 3 in-game

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I changed it now

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Oh sorry, I meant

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Orange saucer groups

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lmao

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There are 3 of them in 3-5 (all before the boss fight). And then 3 orange fish fighter groups

humble vector
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OMG, what an oversight on my part. xd

hidden breach
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It happens, especially when it does

near sail
hidden breach
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yo

humble vector
topaz hare
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Sonic Pulse Damage Calculation (per "consumption")

baseDamage = "entity baseDamagePods config" if (player has pods) else "entity baseDamage config"
playerMult = 1.0 if (playerCount is 1) else 0.7
diffMult = { VeryEasy = 1.4, Easy = 1.1, Medium = 1.0, Hard = 1.0, Nasty = 1.0 }[currentDifficulty]
podMult = 1.2 if (player has pods) else 1.0
damageMult = "ship damageMultiplier config"

finalDamage = baseDamage * playerMult * diffMult * damageMult * podMult```

A "consumption" should be every frame where the pulse overlaps with another entity
humble vector
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TY! ^^

hidden breach
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Ayyy nice

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What else did we need? Do we still need fireball and lightning stats?

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Oh yeah the firerate for boxing glove, and the mini hearts released by the bigger ones, those would be nice to have

humble vector
hidden breach
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@topaz hare can you get these too pls?

humble vector
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Also is my first time seeing the actual values for the damage multiplier per difficulty. :0

hidden breach
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Same here

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Also interesting to see that pulse also has a pods damage multiplier

humble vector
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Yeah

hidden breach
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Saw this while getting footage

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lol

hidden breach
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Done with the guide, other than the voiceover. Going to export it and upload it for you to see, as usual

humble vector
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Gotcha.

hidden breach
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Tf

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Why is the music absent

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Okay

humble vector
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But anyway, I don't really have anything to say about these weapons NGL.

hidden breach
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I'll just re-rrcord it

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Record*

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Is it just the two clips with donut + pods?

humble vector
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I think it was just one clip.

hidden breach
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Oh oops

humble vector
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The one recorded in L4A4

hidden breach
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The music was quiet when I was lidtening to 4-5

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So I assumed it was quiet

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Alr

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So just 4-4, donut with pods

humble vector
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Yeah.

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It also had no SFX.

hidden breach
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Could not tell you how that even happened but anyway

humble vector
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It's alright.

hidden breach
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Oh fuck

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I didn't mention that pods + donut shoots all donuts in a single volley with the same spread

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I will add that tomorrow

humble vector
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No problem. clay_smileclaythumbsUp

hidden breach
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Not that it means much but yk

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Anyway ty

humble vector
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Just a couple steps closer to clay_heart

hidden breach
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Getting close to finishing- yeah. Tomorrow I will do my best to finish up this guide, then just two left. I wanna get them both out this month

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Pretzels and hearts will barely have any footage

humble vector
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Yeah

hidden breach
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Which is more of a problem for hearts than it is for pretzels

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Since pretzels is paired with cheese at least

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Also I never realized pretzels are weaker than donuts till you get pods (even just one)

hidden breach
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Of course the one time I do that, some random clip is muted fsr

humble vector
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Now I see.

topaz hare
hidden breach
humble vector
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Published

hidden breach
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Nice

humble vector
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What the fuck!?

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I keep on failing to log in

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I was supposed to add the video sections for the three weapons

hidden breach
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Wtf

humble vector
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Okay, crisis averted.

hidden breach
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Noice

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Where is the second pretzels star in score attack 5 on nasty? One is after the lightning starfish, idk where the other is

humble vector
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Are you able to check the level script of score attack 5?

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Because I am out of reach with my computer.

hidden breach
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I can

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sec

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oh cheese/pretzels

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So gotta flip the cheese first

near sail
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What is the difference between Donuts and Cheese — I thought that they are of the same category?

hidden breach
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Cheese has much greater spread, much lower damage and shoots significantly faster

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Their general idea is the same though, yes

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Food weapons with random spread and no other notable characteristic

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Why asking? Is it because of the recent guide having donuts but not cheese?

near sail
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I was confused.

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Also, I am a huge fan of Cheese — I wish it appeared more.

hidden breach
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It's because I considered cheese different enough that I could just make a different guide out of it and also I didn't wanna have 5 different weapons all in a single guide

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Because of course if cheese was in this guide then pretzels have to be as well

near sail
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Okay…

hidden breach
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It's the worst hidden weapon to find. You know the classic 4-weapon star?

near sail
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I only see it in the very first level.

hidden breach
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Wide shot - autofire - sonic pulse - rockets

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You know of this one?

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It often has cheese hidden in it, BUT

near sail
hidden breach
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It's at the very end

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So you have to go through all these weapons twice

near sail
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After how many cycles?

hidden breach
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It's not always going to be found this way, some classic stars have other food weapons or none at all

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But yeah this is why cheese appears more rare than it actually is

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Additionally it's an alternative to fireball in 4-5 and 5-5

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Maybe some other spots too, can't remember

near sail
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Oh…

hidden breach
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Oh also in 2-3

near sail
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Interesting.

hidden breach
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You can see all levels except for level 3 have it in at least 2 areas each

near sail
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Quick, I need to switch the language back to English!

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I accidently pressed something.

hidden breach
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So 1-1 has cheese paired with wide shot only, 2-3, 4-5 and 5-5 have it paired with fireball, ALL other areas have it at the end of the classic star

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Uhh

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Fuck, I don't remember the language keybind...

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Think you'll have to press stuff until you find the button that does it

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Or try to just navigate to settings

hidden breach
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Nice

hidden breach
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During the section with 2 green uns at the top and 2 at the bottom

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There is also a rockets/homing/hotdogs missiles star there

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Gotta be away now, will answer any other questions later

near sail
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✓✓✓

hidden breach
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Okay this game is just trolling me

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When I normally try to use cheese, it's not completely inaccurate but it does miss stuff every now and then. It even missed a dragonfly that was almost right in front of my face in score attack 5 somehow. Now I am trying to showcase the inaccuracy in the guide. And what happens? This thing is now a sniper somehow and every shot goes EXACTLY where it should to hit stuff

hidden breach
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Okay I spent like 1 and a half hours just trying to get footage for this but I think I finally got it

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hooray

hidden breach
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Tomorrow I do voiceover and then also start working on the hearts guide video. Maybe I even finish both guides tomorrow. I already got the footage for hearts, lol

humble vector
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Watched it, and once again, it's spot on.

hidden breach
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Ty

humble vector
hidden breach
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As much footage as there are areas containing Hearts

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+1

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To show off pods

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(the best part about hearts obviously)

humble vector
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I see.

hidden breach
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Tbh idk why hearts never got changed

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I probably never noticed or paid attention in development

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Cuz unlike gloves, you'll pretty much never see hearts and pods at the same time

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I feel like if you have the skill to keep pods, you will kill bosses way before you see hearts

humble vector
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The heart only got special attention in a Valentines post last year.

hidden breach
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Which is prolly why I never ended up seeing them

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And 1-2 doesn't have pods

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So basically 5-1 is the only place where I possibly could have spotted this

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But I think I just never had pods and hearts there, by chance

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Maybe I did see the combo like once or twice in development but paid it no mind and assumed it would just get changed later on...

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Oh well

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Oopsie

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I brought it up to the team now anyway, you never know

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Also I realized I made a mistake in the fireball guide

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I think I said the weakest stage of the fireball is the only one that has no pierce?

humble vector
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Yeah

hidden breach
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But it's actually the weakest 2 stages

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I will add that to the description

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Done

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Pretzels made me wish it was in a spammier area so I could show off its true potential while still showing only realistic scenarios...

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I tried it in 4-3 with pods and it demolished the area

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For stuff like the ray spam, it outperforms even weapons like hotdogs...it's actually insane

humble vector
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Pretzels is basically a cracked food variant of autofire even tho it obviously isn't by nature.

hidden breach
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Yeah

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This thing is so nuts that I edited my response to include Pretzels as a favorite weapon

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Because jesus christ man

humble vector
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Yeah, incredible

hidden breach
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Ima get working on the hearts guide immediately too, will hopefully send it in like an hour or 2 for you to see, and then I add the voiceover and it can be published tomorrow

humble vector
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Gotcha.

hidden breach
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In the meantime, the cheese and pretzels can be published whenever you're able to add the thumbnail and publish

hidden breach
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Ima go dinner, will do voiceover when I return and get feedback, if there's any

humble vector
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Gotcha.

hidden breach
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The guide ended up pretty short which...is pretty much what I expected. Most of the time this is just a weapon you get if you struggle with bosses. You almost never see it otherwise

humble vector
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Cheese and Pretzels successfully published.

hidden breach
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Noice

humble vector
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I think I'll be publishing the Hearts video tomorrow, even if prepared much earlier.

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Watched the hearts guide.

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And it's totally spot on.

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Also, the "truly a game-changing upgrade" is priceless af

humble vector
hidden breach
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Nothing else

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Gotcha

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Publish hearts anytime you like (once I upload the finished version ofc), just not today pls

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I prefer to not have two videos in the same day

humble vector
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Yeah, I too don't want that, LOL.

latent heart
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why is that tho? curious

humble vector
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I remember when there was a backlog of unpublished videos.

hidden breach
humble vector
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Homing Missiles, Tail Gun, and even Bomb & Beans I think.

hidden breach
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Was there actually? I forgot lol

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Oh there might have been

humble vector
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There was a situation like that, but eventually I published all of them one day at the time.

hidden breach
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Or I would be anyway

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Right

humble vector
hidden breach
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Yes

humble vector
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At least in terms of video length.

hidden breach
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Lightning sees more use so it makes sense

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A good player will always see lightning in 4-3 and score attack 4 at least

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But hearts are not in score attack at all and also aren't that prevalent even in the few areas they appear in that aren't boss fights

humble vector
hidden breach
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Like in 5-1 it's only at the very end. And then 1-2...that's like the only place where it does see more use, since you have it for a minute

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But you know what's funny? I think it's so bad specifically in 1-2 that it's better to only take one hearts star and blow up the others

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So you just use it for the starfish and goldfish

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So yeah

hidden breach
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Again, in comparison, lightning is very prevalent in most of score attack 4 and a whole area in level 4. And also 4-1 if playing on a lower difficulty

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Yhea

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I even tested to see

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Only taking one heart is just the way to go

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Which is incredibly sad as it's part of the reward for all your efforts in getting passive resistance

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It also gives the impression that hearts is not that great but it's just given for a very unfavorable section

humble vector
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At least free 21k points plus a doubler and 5 coins.

hidden breach
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Plus like...10k points for blowing up the stars at least

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Or however many points it was

humble vector
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Yeah

hidden breach
humble vector
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I think is a good time for me to publish the video.

hidden breach
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Sure

humble vector
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Anyways, already published.

hidden breach
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Noice

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Ty

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Now the guides are officially done

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Tbh I had a lot more fun doing the non-hidden weapons compared to the hidden ones

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Well, hearts was fine

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But a lot of them were so same-y that it wasn't as interesting to work on them

humble vector
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Yeah, true af

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Hotdogs are fundamentally the same as rockets, yet are still fun to talk about.

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Because of insane DPS.

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For a fair and balanced weapon. :3

hidden breach
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Yeah. Well, partially because they are in the same video and so I didn't have to say much for hotdogs

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But also yeah even with that, hotdogs are more unique than a lot of other food weapons lol

humble vector
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Yeah, perfect sense.

hidden breach
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I do like the beans too though

humble vector
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I too liked it to the point I designed several sections in Casinopolis around it.

hidden breach
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Beans?

humble vector
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Yeah

hidden breach
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The funny thing is I don't really use them much, even after making the video

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They are fun to use, they work well and I like them yet I still just don't use them

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Ig it's just because I like the bombs way too much

humble vector
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Totally fair. :3

hidden breach
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Which are almost always the alternative

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Now

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I am thinking of something

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Idk how I wanna handle sharing the beta videos...

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I don't have them on my pc, they are on my channel only. Unlisted ofc

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If I wanted to repost them to claymatic wiki, I'd have to download them from my channel

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It'll probably fuck with the quality

humble vector
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Yeah, that's the issue.

hidden breach
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But also some of the videos are full playthroughs which is prolly not suitable for the wiki channel

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I'd have to cut the videos into many pieces

humble vector
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Well then, we'll have to wait for other people's say.

hidden breach
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Guess so

lean blade
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Can I put Knuckle Creek "formerly Clodhoppers"?

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If it's a formal name of a previous

humble vector
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I don't see why not. clay_smile

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So, go ahead add that detail. :D

lean blade
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But who's gonna play before the full release?

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I don't have money {TvT}

humble vector
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Like, during the demo?

lean blade
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Yes

young tendon
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I would call it as 'under the development/internal name "Clodhoppers"'

hidden breach
dull light
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What happened to the wiki?

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I opened it, and it said domain was misconfigured.

hidden breach
lean blade
hidden breach
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The wiki uhhh, now looks like this fsr

humble vector
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Oh shit

hidden breach
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No clue what to do about this now

humble vector
hidden breach
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Seems fixed now on my side

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Not sure what happened

humble vector
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IDK either, but it's good that things went normal. :D

hidden breach
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Yeah

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Also, omfg

humble vector
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ARCHVILE commented on YT that the wiki is down.

hidden breach
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Do we have to change all the guide descriptions to reflect the url changes?

humble vector
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I think so.

hidden breach
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If no one does it before me, I'll do it on Sunday probably

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When I get on pc

hidden breach
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I ended up doing it today anyway

devout verge
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the page is broken

humble vector
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Use .miraheze.org instead of .wiki

devout verge