Platypus 2 Reclayed | Claymatic Games | Page 3

zinc citrus Oct 4, 2025, 2:00 PM

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It would look choppy me thinks

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 2:00 PM

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hmmm perhaps

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I'd give it a shot though

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you can just make a simple test sprite sheet

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and we'll just see how it animates

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so that you don't put too much work into it for no reason

zinc citrus Oct 4, 2025, 2:11 PM

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k

solemn epoch Oct 4, 2025, 2:28 PM

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Wait doesn't that make the bumps loops left and right? fish

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 2:29 PM

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How so? 🤔

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It just depends on how they lay it out I think

solemn epoch Oct 4, 2025, 2:32 PM

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hmmm since they have more frames maybe that can work

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 2:33 PM

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An easy way to test this is to just mark points on the sprite itself, without any shading or anything

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if there are not enough frames then yeah we'll give up on it

solemn epoch Oct 4, 2025, 2:34 PM

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im way too used to seeing the original 5 saucer sprite and it works by looping like a ping pong (from frame 1>2>3>4>5>4>3>2 and so on)

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 2:35 PM

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I see what you mean

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In that case it just means we shouldn't do it linearly

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maybe look at the programming and see which sprite appears when

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But it honestly wouldn't make sense for me if it works that way in reclayed

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Maybe I'll test it in a bit, you got me curious

solemn epoch Oct 4, 2025, 2:38 PM

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yeah, now I'm kinda curious too how the sprites work in reclayed

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 2:40 PM

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We might also be able to add extra sprites in that case, so that it loops properly

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that would just mean we'd need to change the amount of times the animation updates

zinc citrus Oct 4, 2025, 2:49 PM

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ionic stratus An easy way to test this is to just mark points on the sprite itself, without an...

yeah

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 2:50 PM

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I'll check it in game in like 15 minutes

rich remnant Oct 4, 2025, 2:52 PM

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This is gonna pingpong the animation too, I'm pretty sure

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Yeah I think I see what geio meant now

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but again if we add more frames to it, could be possible still

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I think I know how to pull it off, the issue is that there's only 1 line of sprites

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but if we make it 2 lines and have the game transition between them, we will be able to achieve the effect

solemn epoch Oct 4, 2025, 3:08 PM

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yeah that could solve it

mortal snow Oct 4, 2025, 3:13 PM

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ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 3:15 PM

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You're so quick!

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we'll have to wait until Claymatic Team adds the flamethrower entity, but it's great we'll already have sprites ready for it!

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this should probably do it

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I just flipped it for now

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but this should give us an idea at least

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It works but the animation is too fast

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but I can def get it to work

rich remnant Oct 4, 2025, 3:36 PM

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I assume that one "update time" option is to set the animation speed?

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Not sure tho

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 3:40 PM

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yeah, update counter

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I believe so too

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I'll try adding it to the saucer entity

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since originally saucer does not have it

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 4:15 PM

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@zinc citrus give up on it for now I think

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just stick to what you did before

zinc citrus Oct 4, 2025, 4:15 PM

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got footage?

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 4:15 PM

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I tried getting it to work but it's hard to match the behavior to the animation

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I can record it, but I'll just tell you that it keeps looping constantly back and fourth

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actually hold on I'll try something else

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I have an idea

zinc citrus Oct 4, 2025, 4:26 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-but-i-have-an-idea-monsters-vs-aliens-blob-monster-i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-but-i-have-an-idea-gif-27360547

Tenor

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 4:41 PM

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Yeah still doesn't work

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Don't think it's worth the effort unfortunately

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so @zinc citrus just do it as you did before

zinc citrus Oct 4, 2025, 4:42 PM

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alrighty then

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 4:44 PM

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It doesn't seem like I can make animations play at half the speed

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if that were the case maybe it would be possible

rich remnant Oct 4, 2025, 5:01 PM

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ionic stratus

Looks dope tho, that's for sure

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There's no way there's no framerate or framespeed options... there have to be

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:05 PM

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rich remnant There's no way there's no framerate or framespeed options... there have to be

I can only make it go faster

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if I give it an update counter I can't set it to 0.5 since it stops the animation completely

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The only other idea that comes to my mind, is making a really long row of sprites

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I guess I can try that too, but that'll be my last straw

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that would be a really bandaid solution honestly

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since when the row ends it'll come back to the same issue of the sprite animation pingponging

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it def seems to be hardcoded, and in that case I can't change it unfortunately

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Yup, had a similar issue with the missile hatch truck. Even by adding more images in a row or column to a sprite or changing update counter...the shooting animation was still too quick, which is probably hardcoded to "ReclayedTurret" behaviour...

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:27 PM

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I may add that to the requests list...

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 5:27 PM

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It would be essential indeed

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Animations have been the sloppier side of things in some of my tests :/

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:28 PM

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Yeah it feels pretty limited

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Like we do have control over making animations faster

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but making them slower seems like a real hassle

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:33 PM

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ionic stratus

If more animation options are added in the future we may return to this idea, because I do think it looks cool

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but for now def better to keep it simple sadly

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this makes me worry about domeships... but maybe I could use the animation for turrets as a base for that

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 5:34 PM

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ionic stratus we'll have to wait until Claymatic Team adds the flamethrower entity, but it's g...

I can implement the placeholder flamethrower and then just replace it when Claymatic releases theirs

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:35 PM

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You can def do that, although I think it's better we save our energy for other things

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 5:35 PM

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Same with boat and gunship so far

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It would just need one line of code changed so it's fine

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:35 PM

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since we know flamethrower is coming I think we better wait on that

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but if you wanna do it go ahead

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but I prefer to work on other things atm

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you absolutely can add the entity for the orange flip plane though

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Also Platypus 2 has a Shield Power-Up. But that currently isn't possible to add to crates in Reclayed.

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:40 PM

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Yeah I was gonna mention that

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I did add a request for the ability to add powerups into crates

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so they might add that too

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but yeah I'll add a request for it too, good call

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 5:59 PM

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Does anybody know if bullet hell turret uses its own behavior?

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the one that green thruster ship and miniboss use

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 6:06 PM

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They do

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"SpinTurret"

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 6:11 PM

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maybe I can use its animation for domeships

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 7:45 PM

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Oh revenge bullets have a spinning animation

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Perfect

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 8:30 PM

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Halfway done... it's a lot of sprites to edit

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 8:57 PM

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Should we create a PSP Reclayed thread even if it's not being actively worked on right now?

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Yes

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Alright opening it tomorrow

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you all made yourselves very clear lol

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:22 PM

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ionic stratus maybe I can use its animation for domeships

Perhaps, but that animation is rotation only, I think they would stand still rotating

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Unless the domeships have a similar fish behaviour (domeship sprite) with a turret that doesn't shoot with SpinTurrret behaviour attached to 0 coordinates for both X and Y (domeships animated sprite).

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That way they move and showcase the rotating animation

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Because I don't think there is a behaviour that moves and rotates simultaneously.

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Test it first ofc, if it doesn't work I believe this method will.

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:33 PM

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Yeah I decided to use revenge bullets animation instead

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I am just not sure if I can make fish use that animation instead of the one it's supposed to have

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but if it does work it's probably the best plan I have

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:36 PM

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To simulate a group of domeships circling around, the index numbers would need to be tweaked, plus each domeship would have to spawn a bit away from eachother in their X coordinates, just like blackfishes do in base game.

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:36 PM

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Oh would you be able to explain what an index number is

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I assume it's the first sprite the animation starts with

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:37 PM

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It's in the FishFighterScripts

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In Level Defaults

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There are 10 of them but you can create new custom ones

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:37 PM

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Oh you mean the numbers that affect their movements I assume

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:37 PM

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Yeah

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:37 PM

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yeah alright

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animations just have an indexnumber command as well

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:38 PM

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100 means the enemy shoots

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And its always followed by a 0

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The 2nd number also seems to be a 0 in the order no matter what

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:38 PM

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Good to know

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:38 PM

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Everything else can be tweaked

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To different values and a lot of trial and error to see how they behave in their movements

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:39 PM

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1 to 99 is just movements I assume

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:39 PM

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Think so yeah

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:39 PM

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Did you see if -1 does anything?

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:39 PM

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Some columns might be ticks/timers

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Ah, -1 is despawn

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If for some reason you wanted to despawn them earlier, you could

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By putting a -1 in an earlier column

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:40 PM

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fleet pond Ah, -1 is despawn

Oh we could definitely use this if we want to do kamikaze enemies

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that's good to know

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:40 PM

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Yup

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:40 PM

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So actually

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If we want to do the mine bombs

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that's probably a good way to do it

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:41 PM

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fleet pond Some columns might be ticks/timers

So I think it’s a movement followed by a waiting time or vice versa

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:42 PM

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I'll have to play around with it

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:42 PM

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For example in index 6, 15 is the timer from what I've seen

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But yeah it needs some testing

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:42 PM

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timer?

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:42 PM

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Yeah basically "movement 3" "wait 15 ticks" "movement 6"

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Something like this

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A movement is always followed by a waiting time I believe

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Otherwise the movement would be very erratic

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:43 PM

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can we not have movements without waiting times?

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:43 PM

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Hardcoded I suppose

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:43 PM

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Ooof

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:43 PM

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Unless it's value is 0?

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Haven't tested

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Maybe it works

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:44 PM

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Because the domeships have pretty erratic movements

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Although tbf if we change the animation, it might not be so noticeable like with fish

rich remnant Oct 4, 2025, 9:46 PM

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fleet pond Unless it's value is 0?

I think 0 is the minimum, but it still defaults to 3 ticks? not sure

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:46 PM

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Hmm yeah since they are circular it wouldn't be noticeable I suppose

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:47 PM

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rich remnant I think 0 is the minimum, but it still defaults to 3 ticks? not sure

I see, haven't tested so perhaps

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:47 PM

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fleet pond Hmm yeah since they are circular it wouldn't be noticeable I suppose

Tbf it would only really matter with the spinning and they are usually destroyed by that point

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their entry is not a problem at all since it's just a straight line

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:48 PM

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Yeah simple entry, then just rotate a lil bit to top or bottom depending on where they spawn

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:48 PM

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Yep

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:49 PM

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But I think two Index scripts would be needed

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Just like blackfishes have for the ones from the top and ones from the bottom

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:49 PM

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Oh for sure

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and again I may do some varaints

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I'll tinker with it since fish can shoot

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Yeah there could be shooting ones

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:50 PM

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Yep

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:51 PM

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fleet pond Yeah there could be shooting ones

Would be funny if they are turrets xd

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The sprites are literally turrets without the gun and recolored lmao

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:51 PM

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Lol yeah

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but it was annoying here since I had to seperate the ball in photoshop

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in the original platypus 2 they didn't need to do it since the sprite is just a ball lol

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:52 PM

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Yeah

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:53 PM

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I could've left the outer plate

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but idk

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I think it's better to keep it close to the source material lol

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even if it takes more time

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and turrets have a ton of sprites in reclayed

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:56 PM

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Also I haven't tried either but...I think there can be more columns than the ones used by the default FishFighterScripts. I suppose the result would be they perform movements for a longer time before despawning or leaving the screen.

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This could be helpful if for some reason the domeships poof before the paths are complete xd

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:57 PM

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Yeah, I'll make sure to keep an eye on that part

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By the way, are there any other interesting number behaviors you found?

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:57 PM

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Yeah cuz the blackfishes pathes are very quick

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:58 PM

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you mentioned -1 is despawning

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:58 PM

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100 shooting followed by a 0 always

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:58 PM

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but what about -2 to -99

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for example

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:58 PM

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Oh idk never tested

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 9:58 PM

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I wouldn't be surprised if that's also despawning

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 9:58 PM

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Maybe its a despawn timer or just doesnt do anything

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And defaults to 0 or likely 3 like Makyuni mentioned

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Only by testing one could tell

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:00 PM

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I see, well thanks for what you told me regardless from your experience

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:01 PM

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No problem, glad my big headache trying to understand any of this the other day could be a bit useful XD

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:01 PM

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Yeah I now understand you tried your best with the green fish lol

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because it's impossible to actually have them track the player with the index numbers

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:02 PM

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Yup, only the random fish fighter behaviour tracks

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But it uses no indexes

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:02 PM

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Unless they add a new index number for that in the update, but I am a bit doubtful

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:02 PM

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And its not close enough to the one of the green fish in Platypus 2

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:03 PM

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I do assume we will have more control over randfish and randsaucer entities at least in the future

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we made that issue pretty clear

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:03 PM

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Yeah that would be great

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Would save not having to think about any coordinates to simulate randomness lol

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:03 PM

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At least for domeships I don't need it anyway

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but still

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Well some domeships spawn randomly in Platypus 2

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But rarely

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Some that come in a disconfigured formation

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Usually the ones that don't come in groups right

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Yup

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:04 PM

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Yeah so as I thought

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:05 PM

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But its so rare that idk if they just messed up in level data XD

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:05 PM

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Not a priority right now anyway

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM

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That one would be the easiest to implement anyway. Just giving them random fish fighter behaviour and minX and minY once possible in level data.

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Again I might have seperated ones changed to its own enemy type

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Oh yess

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM

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I think that would be more interesting

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM

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That would be better

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Might make the seperated ones be able to shoot

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Or wait yes nvm xd

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:07 PM

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ionic stratus Might make the seperated ones be able to shoot

Color variant?

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:07 PM

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Absolutely

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I wanna do a blue one and a red one at least, like with starfish

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but ofc not with the same size differences

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:08 PM

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Or boomerangs

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:09 PM

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Boomerangs?

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:09 PM

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They have red in OG, I think we can use them as well. Also blue horseshoe and the yellow jumper.

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FastFish

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:09 PM

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There's a red domeship?

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:09 PM

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No

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:09 PM

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Yeah was gonna say lol

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:10 PM

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Only the yellow ones

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:10 PM

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What were you talking about then

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:11 PM

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The boomerangs are introduced in Platypus Level 3 and the Boss 3 Plane releases them too

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That's their official name

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:11 PM

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Ah boomerangs are the yellow fast ships

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I understand now

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:12 PM

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In Platypus 2, yellow ones come from the water below in Level 3

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:12 PM

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Those ones are going to be tricky to add I think

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:12 PM

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Blue ones replace OG Red/Orange ones, but I think we can use the 3 variants

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Yeah a lot of tweaks would be needed for it

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:13 PM

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Yeah, I am not sure how we can seperate blue fast ships from the original counterpart

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:13 PM

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Shooting

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:13 PM

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It's a very specific kind of enemy

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:13 PM

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Maybe

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:13 PM

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fleet pond Shooting

I mean maybe

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considering their color, maybe they could shoot lightning towards the ground or something

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:14 PM

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I do have the lightning from the saucers now...so it's 100% possible hehe

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But maybe they'd need to be slower or smaller groups

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:15 PM

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We need to think about it more though

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:15 PM

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Cuz that would be crazy xD

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:15 PM

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Oh yeah 100%

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:16 PM

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Yeah but I like the idea of keeping variants

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Platypus 2 has the white ray in the files but it went unused...

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:16 PM

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Yeah I like the idea I came up with for orange flip plane

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:16 PM

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I feel like it fits Level 4 like a glove

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:16 PM

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fleet pond Platypus 2 has the white ray in the files but it went unused...

Oh definitely

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:17 PM

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ionic stratus Yeah I like the idea I came up with for orange flip plane

It's peak

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:17 PM

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Thanks lol

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:17 PM

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I didn't like how it was a pure recolor originally

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And more entities with the new flamethrower should be fun

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:17 PM

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I really hope we can manage to have the turret not necessarily target the player ship

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I want the turrets to do like a spread attack, so that they don't both target the same angle

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:18 PM

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ionic stratus I really hope we can manage to have the turret not necessarily target the player...

It's possible

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ReclayedTurret is the behaviour that follows the ship

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SquidGun and some others don't for example 👀

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:20 PM

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Squidgun is stationary though isn't it

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:20 PM

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Shoots in a straight linr yes

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:20 PM

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I'd still want it to swirl around lol

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but again I'll compromise if we have no choice

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:20 PM

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Ah just not simultaneously is what you meant right

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:20 PM

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I'll show you the little concept I drew

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Oke

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:21 PM

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That's the idea essentially

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I want it to finish the flip and then start spraying fire around

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but not sure if it'll be possible

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:22 PM

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Up and down randomly?

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One turret and then the other?

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:22 PM

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Not necessarily randomly but yes

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both turrets spray the surrounding area

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with fire

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:23 PM

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Ah an up and down pattern

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:23 PM

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Mhmm

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again, we need to get the flamethrower entity first

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and see if this is doable

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if not I'll simplify it

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Worst case scenario maybe I'll make it just use spinturret

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:25 PM

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Flamethrower would spin in 360° very quickly

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:26 PM

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It's not ideal but it's the second best option I have probably

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it's still closer to the desired concept I wanted

fleet pond Oct 4, 2025, 10:27 PM

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Well player instant death once they start shooting xD

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Scary enemy oof

ionic stratus Oct 4, 2025, 10:28 PM

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Lol we'll see

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first we need to test it

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if that idea doesn't work maybe it will just use 2 normal flamethrowers

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I do feel like though, since flip plane is so slow, it's appropriate for it

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and then you could add more enemies into the mix and it'll be like it closes in on you

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 1:14 AM

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Orange Flip Plane with flamethrower placeholders test...it seems that the flip plane behaviour has the two turrets that shoot bullets hardcoded.

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Another hardcoded enemy behaviour just like saucers (always shoots bullets alongside whatever new turret may be added), boats and trucks.

rich remnant Oct 5, 2025, 1:24 AM

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hopefully those will be optionally removable in the future

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I'd like to make boats that don't necessarily shoot those bullets, and such

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 1:34 AM

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Yeah it would be big just being able to replicate some of those behaviours and use our own turrets instead

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Or no turrets even yup

rich remnant Oct 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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exactly
the more different behaviours we have access to, individually, the better

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the less hardcoded stuff we have, the better too... (excluding some things which I guess would be too complicated to make customizable, like the font color stuff)

simple prism Oct 5, 2025, 1:59 AM

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fleet pond Orange Flip Plane with flamethrower placeholders test...it seems that the flip p...

Makes them more annoying, good/j

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 3:45 AM

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Green Mine Trash Can test...well bombs are hardcoded to be attached by strings to balloons.

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At least we are having the bases for the enemies. When Claymatic's modding patch releases many of these may be able to be fixed.

rich remnant Oct 5, 2025, 3:51 AM

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Maybe they could allow to have a big bullet with bomb texture that when destroyed drops the mineshards

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I mean, the Platypus 2 dropped bombs' physics seem a bit similar to big bullets' ones, right?

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 4:00 AM

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I believe so indeed, me and Greeness have requested a bubble cannon turret entity (also a missile one) in #1422140035989504073

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Because both of these are all coded to specific behaviours

rich remnant Oct 5, 2025, 4:07 AM

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Dang, that stinks
Maybe there could be some way to allow customizable behaviours... that'd be dope if it was possible!

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 8:10 AM

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fleet pond Another hardcoded enemy behaviour just like saucers (always shoots bullets along...

Guess I have to add flip plane turrets to the request list...

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still your recreations are cool though

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I do feel like green trash can is a bit too easy at the moment but this is still a good base clay_smile

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:31 AM

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ionic stratus I do feel like green trash can is a bit too easy at the moment but this is still...

I agree, the ammount, speed and spread of bombs can be adjusted thankfully though hehe. I went into this test thinking it was going to drop 3 bombs quickly and in short period burts but they are hardcoded to ballons xd. Still, worst case scenario I think we got ourselves a nice foundation to play around with.

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It can also drop them in various angles, so if I wanted the Trash Can to drop bombs between 0° to 360° it's also possible.

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Oh there's quite a bit of customizability for the mine layer balloons then

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can you change them all to have red balloons btw?

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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Oh, that I didn't understand how. It's likely hardcoded to only the mine balloons and mine layers I believe.

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Entities

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:34 AM

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fleet pond It can also drop them in various angles, so if I wanted the Trash Can to drop bo...

I'd say if they shot a bit more forward it would already be quite an improvement

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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fleet pond Oh, that I didn't understand how. It's likely hardcoded to only the mine balloon...

I see, so we have no control over that then

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:35 AM

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The only thing that can be changed art wise as of now is the bomb itself.

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:37 AM

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ionic stratus I see, so we have no control over that then

Don't think so yeah, they seem to be placed in level data kind of similarly to fruit sets. The ones that are tan/beige have a set of fruits attached, while the red ones spawn if you put 0 in the set number, but it only applies to the mine balloon entity itself.

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And Mine Layer is likely hardcoded to drop both.

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:40 AM

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I see, makes sense

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still, it does get across the idea of the enemy well

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we'll just have to give it more attention in the future in terms of making it harder or maybe taking advantage of newer mod features

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:43 AM

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Yup, we'll see, if new behaviours and settings in the modding patch are also based off of removing many of these hardcoded features, it would be a quality of life improvement modding wise.

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And we can always tweak some numbers too.

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:45 AM

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Would you like anything regarding this to be added to the requests list btw?

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I'm just not sure myself what our goal is exactly for now for green trashcan

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:46 AM

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I liked Makyuni's idea of it having a similar attack to the Bubble Cannon, but the bombs are heavier and if you shoot them they drop the bullets as they usually do.

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:48 AM

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That is a pretty interesting idea

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it would make the attack harder too

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:48 AM

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Yup, and we could change the ammount per difficulty.

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:49 AM

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Question is how are we going to make bubble cannon bullets destructable and shoot mines when destroyed...

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:50 AM

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Because a fun thing that is possible currently is gravity, so the higher a bomb is likely dropped, the faster speed it could reach, but at the start the drop would always be slower.

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:50 AM

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ionic stratus Question is how are we going to make bubble cannon bullets destructable and shoo...

Yeah...

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It doesn't even have collision rn

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If I used that behaviour

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 10:50 AM

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I feel like that's way too specific of a request for claymatic team

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the best thing we could do arguably is set it so revenge bullets in nasty act like mines when they are destroyed

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so we use enemies as bullets

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I guess we could ask mines to be a bullet type

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I'm not sure if they'll do it but I will add it

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:52 AM

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Or a new option for them to not have balloons

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But yeah I'd add it to the requests

solemn epoch Oct 5, 2025, 10:55 AM

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throwable balloonless mines

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 10:55 AM

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Yuppp

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🗑️ 🦑 item_bomb

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 11:03 AM

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Alright request added

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I am a bit doubtful this will be added but who knows, worth a shot

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Would be a fun addition hehe

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 11:05 AM

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I feel like if we told them about it earlier like with flamethrower the chance would've been higher

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of it being added

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but still, we'll see

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I'd love to be wrong

fleet pond Oct 5, 2025, 11:06 AM

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Who knows, they may have done it themselves already xD

solemn epoch Oct 5, 2025, 11:08 AM

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ionic stratus I'd love to be wrong

I'll pray you to be wrong so they add both clay_smile

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 11:33 AM

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Should orange flip plane be changed to use a flamethrower?

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umbral ridge Oct 5, 2025, 12:58 PM

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fleet pond Also Platypus 2 has a Shield Power-Up. But that currently isn't possible to add ...

It should be a permanent powerup okay since in Reclayed there's a shield 🛡️ mechanic but was exclusive to plovers

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I do love the shield one in 2 tho it's sad that it is not a permanent one as it's invincibility so in 2 Reclayed adds a shield point therefore it's permanent

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especially when preserving pods and crown when having hearts or no hearts

zinc citrus Oct 5, 2025, 3:22 PM

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You know what, I may make both a light and no light version, light one for the arctic (which is at night iirc) and the other for other levels

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I may have just used a clone brush for the under armour that would be around the pads/lights, but damn it looks like it's actually clay and not photoshop despite being so simple

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And just now do I realize I put the last two sprites under armour in the wrong place

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 4:00 PM

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Looks great!

ionic stratus Oct 5, 2025, 4:02 PM

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zinc citrus You know what, I may make both a light and no light version, light one for the a...

I mean you can, but besides level 3 and 5 all stages have day/night cycles iirc, so the lightless saucers might not get too much use

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still it could be a nice detail

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 1:10 AM

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So Platypus 2 doesn't use the Orange Boomerangs from OG, it uses 2 other variants, with the blue ones acting as a replacement and the yellow ones coming from below in Level 3. But I believe having the 3 variants could be fun. So here they are in tests:

● 🟠Orange Boomerangs {🔄Random Spawns from the right/OG}
● 🔵Blue Horseshoes {⬇️Above Spawns Grouped}
● 🟡Yellow Jumpers {⬆️Below Spawns Grouped}

The blue ones are quicker and the yellow ones are slower.

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(Perhaps I could scrap some frames from yellow jumpers' animation, so that when they come downwards they point down).

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 1:55 AM

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Green Rays Test in Nasty: made them a lil bit quicker, a lil bit stronger and I tought...no minor enemy ever uses the homing missile, so I decided to give them that as well. Saucers do shoot bullets and Squids shoot lasers, so perhaps this could fit well.

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But ofc every enemy is subject to changes and updates, they are tests after all, everyone's opinions will matter towards the best effort of each enemy. ^^

solemn epoch Oct 6, 2025, 2:18 AM

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fleet pond So Platypus 2 doesn't use the Orange Boomerangs from OG, it uses 2 other variant...

the blue horseshoes ship formation reminds me like those yellow domeships in platypus 2

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 3:58 AM

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You might be into something 👀 if the domeships ever become too much of a heavy task to implement, this could be a decent base.

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Idea/Concept by @ionic stratus: Tiki Heads that shoot from their mouths. I've used the Flamethrower placeholder as the likely turret to be used in Level 3. After all there are Geisers, maybe they could be replaced with these, so people could expect the threat.

I've used two examples in the test video, the 1st is a destructible tiki head that counts towards percentage, while the 2nd one is indestructible and is a pure level obstacle, doesn't count towards completion percentage.

Should they be destroyable? Probably not, just like volcano rocks. They could possibly become the invincible version of the Buoys from Level 1.

lavish totem Oct 6, 2025, 4:41 AM

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5k to destroy that thing?

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 4:41 AM

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Placeholder value just for testing, can be changed.

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 6:01 AM

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fleet pond Idea/Concept by <@561974150910967808>: Tiki Heads that shoot from their mouths. ...

Awesome, we really can add stationary enemies!

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This means that the next step is to add these things 👀

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But yeah the moyai statue idea works quite well I'd say, it probably just needs a bit more range and less health

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 6:13 AM

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fleet pond Idea/Concept by <@561974150910967808>: Tiki Heads that shoot from their mouths. ...

I actually like the idea of them being destructable, but we'd definitely need to communicate that visually

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Since some are just background scenary

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I could see an argument for them being invincible too though

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so we'll see

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Great work though ❤️

mortal snow Oct 6, 2025, 7:16 AM

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ionic stratus

I'll try to do this

solemn epoch Oct 6, 2025, 7:57 AM

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fleet pond Idea/Concept by <@561974150910967808>: Tiki Heads that shoot from their mouths. ...

this is so evil and cool at the same time

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 8:45 AM

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fleet pond Green Rays Test in Nasty: made them a lil bit quicker, a lil bit stronger and I ...

Wasn't expect for those green guys fights back that the white ones doesn't

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 8:46 AM

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fleet pond Idea/Concept by <@561974150910967808>: Tiki Heads that shoot from their mouths. ...

Okay so is like the satellite disks ones except they can attack

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 8:46 AM

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ionic stratus

Again that guy is damn easy all you need to do is kill him

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He only attacks you when you're above him

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It's kinda pathetic when you know where to kill him

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so on higher difficulties he's not that stupid

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and might have been upgraded

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:48 AM

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We are probably just going to give it the normal bubble cannon attack

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 8:48 AM

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ionic stratus We are probably just going to give it the normal bubble cannon attack

Probably an upgrade?

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Or on all difficulties

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for that gun

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:49 AM

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We'll see, currently we have no control over how many shots bubble cannon creates

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for lower difficulties I would like it to shoot less bullets yes

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 8:50 AM

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So he's not firing any of those yellow squid shots anymore right?

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upgraded in Reclayed

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:50 AM

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umbral ridge So he's not firing any of those yellow squid shots anymore right?

Don't think so, it also didn't really make sense in Platypus 2

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when that cannon is usually known for creating bubbles, it's inconsistent to make it shoot squid shots

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 8:51 AM

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ionic stratus Don't think so, it also didn't really make sense in Platypus 2

So he'll still fire bubbles now in 2 Reclayed

solemn epoch Oct 6, 2025, 8:51 AM

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umbral ridge So he's not firing any of those yellow squid shots anymore right?

probably much more harder to replicate in reclayed if the bubble cannon didn't shot out bubble

since some of the enemies are hardcoded

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:51 AM

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I also just didn't like the attack personally

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it was way too easy

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even before we found out it was hardcoded I had this idea in mind

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 8:52 AM

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Okay @solemn epoch @ionic stratus you'll probably do something about him okay

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:52 AM

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I mean yeah we will

clear snow Oct 6, 2025, 8:54 AM

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In Platypus 2 Reclayed 🗣️🔥🔥

solemn epoch Oct 6, 2025, 8:54 AM

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platypus 2 (unofficial) reclayed‼️

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:12 AM

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ionic stratus We are probably just going to give it the normal bubble cannon attack

...you know hehe sick coincidence I just tought about that yesterday as well lmao, imo too the 2 lasers don't fit the buoys at all and their cannons would be perfect for the bubbles.

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:15 AM

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ionic stratus Awesome, we really can add stationary enemies!

Yuppp we can, there are at least 3 behaviours for it (haven't looked if there are more): tank, building and satellite dish, but

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:15 AM

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Platypus 1 already familiarized us with the fact that those cannons are meant for bubbles

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so I have no idea why they decided to change it for Platypus 2

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:16 AM

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The tank is hardcoded to show the destroyed art when killed

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:16 AM

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and they mostly do still follow this rule anyway

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:16 AM

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Buildings and dishes though! 🔥

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So I tested the tank first and it was funny, the exploded tiki showed the tank destroyed base art lmao

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:17 AM

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Oh lol

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Yeah I was mainly thinking adding a shooting type to satellie could work for that

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:18 AM

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fleet pond So I tested the tank first and it was funny, the exploded tiki showed the tank d...

I assume you made it dishes in the end, that's why it causes such an explosion

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:19 AM

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It can also work for the arches in Level 3 as well, we'd just need to make the sides have no collision and the top part have it.

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And make them invincible.

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:20 AM

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Yeah sounds good

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:21 AM

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ionic stratus I assume you made it dishes in the end, that's why it causes such an explosion

Either building or dish, I tested both, oof don't remember which I put in final version. I'll have to check later xD

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:21 AM

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that one is probably going to be a bit difficult to get visually but the idea is there

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:21 AM

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Yup

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:22 AM

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Oh wait actually you probably used building

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dishes don't make that kind of explosion

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:23 AM

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Likely, bigger explosion yeah

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:23 AM

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it's either buildings or tanks

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:24 AM

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Changed from thanks, these are hardcoded to always show the destroyed bottom part when killed

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So most likely buildings

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I think the buildings have an unique explosion and shard drop, and it looks really cool

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If we wanted something smaller, dish is probably the way.

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:26 AM

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for buoys probably a smaller explosion I'd say

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actually what explosion do trashcans have

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alright nvm they should have the building explosion as well lol

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Actually looking at it now

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I think buildings have a bit too many explosions

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is it possible for us to change the dishes explosion?

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:32 AM

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Didn't check :/

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:33 AM

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Ideally changing the dishes explosion would probably be best

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but if we make them invincible it wouldn't matter

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for say tiki statues

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:33 AM

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True

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I think those can be invincible

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:33 AM

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I think so too

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we already have the buoys

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:34 AM

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Yupp

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Each with a different turret attack and HP identity

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:34 AM

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maybe making variants of buoys is an option though

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:34 AM

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That could also be cool

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We'd just need to change the top part art for each

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:35 AM

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Yeah

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we can probably do a missile buoy

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that's purple

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Besides that... maybe a lightning one that shoots to the top?

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that could also be a nice idea

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like it completely blocks your entry to the other side unless you shoot it

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:37 AM

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I see yeah

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Sounds good

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:37 AM

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again very much like the mirrored saucer idea

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just this time its stationary

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:38 AM

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I would just need to copy paste the new lightning I made into a new one and extend the art of it

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Should be doable

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:38 AM

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yeah, exactly

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we should make it trashcan colored/blue colored and it would be perfect

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and honestly

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we should change buoys to be red

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it would make more sense

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@mortal snow if you're making it letting you know

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make the trashcan part the same color as the cannon part in the vanilla game

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fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:41 AM

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Oh

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All of the buoy recolored from orange or just the cannon part like that?

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:41 AM

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the entire thing

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the bottom squid part should also be red

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otherwise it would have inconsistent coloring imo

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I mean I guess trains have it in seperate colors

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but in platypus 2 they made the colors match

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I think it would be more appropriate

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:44 AM

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Oml I never noticed the bottom part is a trash can 😭

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:44 AM

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It is lol

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:45 AM

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This could easily be photoshopped with what we already have lmao

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:45 AM

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I think the reason they changed the color of the top part, is so they can excuse it having a different type of cannon (the squid shots)

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but again we're changing that

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so it just makes more sense to make buoys red

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:46 AM

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fleet pond This could easily be photoshopped with what we already have lmao

Oh absolutely

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Do we need new art for it?

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Nah, UltraverseEmpire just said they wanted to make it

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Alright

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:47 AM

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I mean by editing existing sprites

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:47 AM

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Ah

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:48 AM

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I mean I don't mind doing it too right now

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:48 AM

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Man. Platypus 2 really is the world of recycling sprites huh.

clear snow Oct 6, 2025, 9:48 AM

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Most sprites in Platypus 2 are reused

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like the Green Big Un which is recolored to yellow for their small variants

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:49 AM

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fleet pond Man. Platypus 2 really is the world of recycling sprites huh.

This is why Platypus 2 is such a good base for a mod lol

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fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:50 AM

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Yeah when I made the missile squid, I just recolored the top part and made the barrel thinner for example

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:50 AM

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They literally just took this and combined it with the cannon

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and recolored it a bit

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:51 AM

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fleet pond Yeah when I made the missile squid, I just recolored the top part and made the b...

If we make a missile buoy, I'll likely do the same lol

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:51 AM

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ionic stratus They literally just took this and combined it with the cannon

Yupppp I see it

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:52 AM

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Yeah it's a very simple edit

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 9:55 AM

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I wonder what barrel would fit well for a lightning type buoy

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Even thinner? xd
Or permanent vertical squid gun perhaps

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 9:57 AM

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I was thinking squid gun yeah

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and maybe having an animation of it coming out and then it's permanent

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 12:04 PM

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@fleet pond got something for you to play around with

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@mortal snow I did it so you can move to other things if you want

solemn epoch Oct 6, 2025, 12:12 PM

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hmm maybe change the dark red/grey colours to something thats near white color

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or maybe this is a variation from the buoy?

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 12:13 PM

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You mean for the ring in the middle?

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I noticed it's brighter in the original yeah

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idk it didn't look as good when I tried brightening it up

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I preferred just having it consistent

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 12:17 PM

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solemn epoch or maybe this is a variation from the buoy?

It's supposed to be the original one except now it will have bubble shots

solemn epoch Oct 6, 2025, 12:20 PM

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i think i have modified a buoy in my laptop, can't access it now since i need a charger clay_spiral

simple prism Oct 6, 2025, 12:28 PM

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ionic stratus

their not orange now

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??

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 12:28 PM

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Yeah

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we changed its attack to normal bubbles

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like all other cannons

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so it only makes sense to make it the same color

simple prism Oct 6, 2025, 12:29 PM

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ah i see

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wait what if the og orang is a variant

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 12:29 PM

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we will also have a couple of more variants, rockets and lightning

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 12:29 PM

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simple prism wait what if the og orang is a variant

I am probably going to be making the og orange lightning

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but either way I'm going to make 2 color variants for that and we'll see

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 1:46 PM

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Homing missile variant

mortal snow Oct 6, 2025, 1:51 PM

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ionic stratus <@514446912833716224> I did it so you can move to other things if you want

Ok. I just come back from the mall so I didn't do it yet.

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 1:53 PM

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Oh no worries

mortal snow Oct 6, 2025, 1:57 PM

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Next I will start to make level 5 alien trees

umbral ridge Oct 6, 2025, 2:11 PM

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ionic stratus

Same model as the trashcan

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Except without the lightning gun

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Instead a cannon

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And now there's a red and purple now?

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 2:19 PM

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red is the new default one

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bubble variant

fleet pond Oct 6, 2025, 5:41 PM

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ionic stratus I am probably going to be making the og orange lightning

Trash Can color could be good, and it'd be similar to the OG Buoy to keep a little remain.

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Also they look peak! 🔥

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(I even tought of a dark green variant that could shoot bombs similarly to a bubble cannon/mine can lmao...who knows) red and green are common buoy colors irl after all.

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 6:35 PM

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Oh I could def make that

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 6:35 PM

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fleet pond Trash Can color could be good, and it'd be similar to the OG Buoy to keep a litt...

Yeah I thought it only makes sense, considering they already use the same base lol

zinc citrus Oct 6, 2025, 8:04 PM

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ionic stratus

Why is it a radiant glowing red and why are the grey areas also red toned?

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:12 PM

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The grey part I will probably improve a bit... I agree it could look better

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:12 PM

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zinc citrus Why is it a radiant glowing red and why are the grey areas also red toned?

I mean I just matched the red of the bubble cannons

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I didn't touch them here

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If it's a bit too bright I could tone it down ig

zinc citrus Oct 6, 2025, 8:13 PM

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yeah no, even the cannon red is different

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I'll do it, multiple variants

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:14 PM

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Ehhh I think I've got this

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but I appreciate the criticism

zinc citrus Oct 6, 2025, 8:18 PM

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you also used the second damage state of the turret twice instead of using the third one (right below the first one for the example) on top of the third buoy damage state

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:18 PM

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Yeah that's been fixed

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I noticed that

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if you'll check I did fix it for the homing missile variant

zinc citrus Oct 6, 2025, 8:21 PM

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whatever recolor method you use recolors too much of the sprite, even in the homing variant it looks underwater because of the black areas being dark blue now

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:21 PM

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fixing that right now

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I just made another layer for the damaged parts

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but yeah I absolutely am not trying to come off as a professional at photoshop, I'm using this opportunity to learn the program as well

zinc citrus Oct 6, 2025, 8:35 PM

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while not accurate to the original (I mean the whole color scheme isn't in the first place), maybe having the grey part look like the turret bottom would be cool looking

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:37 PM

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Oh that's a pretty cool idea

zinc citrus Oct 6, 2025, 8:38 PM

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gives it a more reinforced feel

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:38 PM

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zinc citrus while not accurate to the original (I mean the whole color scheme isn't in the f...

Yeah it isn't supposed to be to be fair, I wanted it to look red for a gameplay reason

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 8:39 PM

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zinc citrus gives it a more reinforced feel

Yeah absolutely, I like that suggestion

ionic stratus Oct 6, 2025, 11:22 PM

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@zinc citrus what do you say

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I tried improving it based on your suggestions

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I think to some extent, it has to be shiny, because the top is shiny

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but I did try to decrease it this time

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The grey could probably match more, that's probably the main thing I still have to improve

zinc citrus Oct 7, 2025, 12:04 AM

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Yeah the grey should be slightly more brown, and the red should be more shiny but not radiant as it was before, a middle ground has to be found. Besides that it looks very good

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 12:05 AM

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Thank you!

solemn epoch Oct 7, 2025, 9:57 AM

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booted up my laptop since I got a new charger, this is the latest thing saved in paint.net fish

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 10:03 AM

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@solemn epoch we can still use it for the lightning variant

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so it's great that you did it imo!

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I would appreciate if you could send it over to me so I'll give it some touch ups though

solemn epoch Oct 7, 2025, 10:04 AM

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ionic stratus I would appreciate if you could send it over to me so I'll give it some touch up...

here's the pdn file

📎 laser_squid.pdn

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 10:05 AM

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Do you have the heads as a seperate layer?

solemn epoch Oct 7, 2025, 10:05 AM

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I remembered all of them in layers

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 10:06 AM

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to me they're all in 1 layer though

solemn epoch Oct 7, 2025, 10:06 AM

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i think there are 3 layers

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 10:06 AM

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I think it flattened the file

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just send it to me in 3 versions and every time disable one of the layers in that case

solemn epoch Oct 7, 2025, 10:07 AM

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hmm, i will try to send them later since im outside

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 10:07 AM

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I see, no worries

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you can just send me another version with just the heads and it'd be fine too

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 11:03 AM

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Final version overall I think

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idk why discord makes it seem as though something is wrong with the outline

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it's fine outside of that

solemn epoch Oct 7, 2025, 12:45 PM

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2layers

📎 laser_squid.pdn

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mylaptopspacearis clay_spiral 💥

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 12:47 PM

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Updated homing missile variant

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 12:47 PM

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solemn epoch 2layers

Thank you 🔥

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Yeah that's def better

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So this only leaves us the green trashcan variant

solemn epoch Oct 7, 2025, 12:48 PM

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wait isn't thats done?

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 12:49 PM

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Yeah, but we wanted to have a buoy version of it

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the head is the only thing we need to add

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 1:37 PM

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Green variant

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and now I'll finish Geio's lightning variant

karmic oasis Oct 7, 2025, 1:40 PM

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ionic stratus

This type of green one will shoot mines like a trashcan, right?

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 1:41 PM

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Yeah, we're going to use Makyuni's idea of it shooting like bubble cannons, but instead of bubbles it'll be mine bombs

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at least when we get the option to do that in the patch

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for now it might just shoot a mine balloon

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I feel like these buoys should also drop fruit

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it's odd that they don't in Platypus 2

umbral ridge Oct 7, 2025, 2:12 PM

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ionic stratus

Green?

umbral ridge Oct 7, 2025, 2:12 PM

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karmic oasis This type of green one will shoot mines like a trashcan, right?

Oh gosh it's gonna fire those landmines

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 8:49 PM

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Temporary sprites for lightning buoy

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I think this one may need more work in the future...

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was a bit complicated

ionic stratus Oct 7, 2025, 9:05 PM

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The head is def too bright, but I still wanted to share this today and move on to other things for now

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we at least have a foundation for the buoys

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green and red came out the best imo

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Purple could probably also use some more touchups but it looks good overall

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 1:53 AM

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Varient alien trees

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clear snow Oct 8, 2025, 1:54 AM

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That's going to be in Level 5

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 1:54 AM

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Sure

umbral ridge Oct 8, 2025, 3:08 AM

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mortal snow

Was it in the OG?

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 3:27 AM

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umbral ridge Was it in the OG?

Yes, some of them from original version. And some trees are new.

umbral ridge Oct 8, 2025, 3:27 AM

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mortal snow Yes, some of them from original version. And some trees are new.

Only some are survived into Reclayed

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And some are completely new

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 3:28 AM

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umbral ridge Only some are survived into Reclayed

All of original trees survived into Reclayed but changed a bit

umbral ridge Oct 8, 2025, 3:34 AM

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mortal snow All of original trees survived into Reclayed but changed a bit

Slight change

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:12 AM

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Four Buoy Variants Test:

🔴Cannon Red Buoy
🟣Missile Purple Buoy
🟠Lightning Orange Buoy
🟢Mine Green Buoy

(this is going to be fun...chaotic platypus-esque fun hehe ^^)

umbral ridge Oct 8, 2025, 6:22 AM

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@fleet pond The lightning one is interesting acts like a Barrier

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You will die unless you destroy the lightning

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But idk if it keeps going because with that orange buoy being this large it probably has a large battery inside

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 7:52 AM

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fleet pond Four Buoy Variants Test: 🔴Cannon Red Buoy 🟣Missile Purple Buoy 🟠Lightning Or...

They look great!
Awesome work Wolf clay_smile

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I wanted to ask, for the lightning variant, is there a limit to the amount of bullets that could appear on screen?

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since I saw the mine buoy didn't start firing until lightning buoy was defeated

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 8:08 AM

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Good News: I finished all level 5 phrase 1 backgrounds (trees,mushrooms,a building). I'll send them soon

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 8:27 AM

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mortal snow Varient alien trees

More varient trees

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Mushrooms🍄

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Propose bush

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alien building

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 9:39 AM

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Great work Ultraverse!

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It's great that we got a head start on level 5 already

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one step closer to it becoming a reality...

clear snow Oct 8, 2025, 11:14 AM

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As for Level 5's Eyeball enemies, will you just make it scream when it's hit or have no scream?

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Or use a different sound.

mystic verge Oct 8, 2025, 12:25 PM

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@fleet pond It is loud the Lighting SFX. but you can use this sound effect if you want to edit for cutting a sound

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 12:56 PM

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mystic verge <@1051164516798451854> It is loud the Lighting SFX. but you can use this sound e...

SFX are hardcoded currently

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so because Wolf used regular bullets as a base for the laser, the SFX can't be changed atm

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I am not sure if we can just use a lightning entity instead to get the right sound effect

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:39 PM

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We can't, "enemyZap" AKA Lightning is a very sensible and easily broken hardcoded entity. As of now, it only works effectively if shot exactly in the style of a classic Trash Can or Cyan Starfish.

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I did sneak in a suggestion for a more flexible lightning turret entity in #1422140035989504073

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One that could rotate in 360° or zap in other directions.

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:43 PM

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ionic stratus since I saw the mine buoy didn't start firing until lightning buoy was defeated

There is no limit, that was just a coincidence in the timing of the video recorded xD

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:45 PM

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Ahhh fair enough

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I was just worried that could limit us in terms of level design

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but if the limitation isn't there it's totally fine

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:50 PM

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fleet pond We can't, "enemyZap" AKA Lightning is a very sensible and easily broken hardcode...

Yeah thought as much

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I think your implementation still is very good

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we just need more control over SFX

modern fulcrum Oct 8, 2025, 3:52 PM

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is this use saucer?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:52 PM

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Thank you! And yup if we could change the SFX, it would be very cool and helpful, also in the suggestions box as of now.

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:52 PM

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modern fulcrum is this use saucer?

Yes, saucer behaviour

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:52 PM

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Yeah I added it a suggestion

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Also Wolf do we have control over sprite height?

modern fulcrum Oct 8, 2025, 3:53 PM

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plus turret

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:53 PM

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I've noticed the buoys were kinda floating there

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:54 PM

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They are meant to float cuz there is no water in those tests

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:54 PM

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so if we could slightly move their sprite more towards the bottom of the screen it would be better

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:54 PM

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It'll look better then xd

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:54 PM

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oh so say, if we change the map to level 3, it won't float?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:54 PM

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You'll notice it's in the same height as a boat

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Yup

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:55 PM

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Ah that's fine then

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we could potentially put these enemies in dried up areas...

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but we should probably keep them in the water overall I agree

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 3:56 PM

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Well they are buoys, they fit better in the water

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 3:57 PM

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yeah but considering we've made 4 variants, they might not all get used if we just keep it to water areas

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but I agree with you it makes more sense to just have them in the water, I am just saying potentially later it is something we could consider

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you know the fact that they are called "buoys" doesn't mean they can't also work as just a ground enemy variant

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I guess we can also potentially use them in level 3... but considering it's supposed to be lava that might also not make too much sense lol

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maybe editing a rock below them is an option

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:00 PM

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Level 3 overall doesn't make too much sense xd

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:00 PM

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yeah...

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:00 PM

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And too much red

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:00 PM

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if this was an official remake that level would probably get a complete makeover

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because the lava certainly just looks like red water

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lava should be more thick

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:07 PM

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Yeah and even then it's kind of silly that the ocean is entirely covered or replaced with lava, or that the water would become red.

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:08 PM

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Yeah lava doesn't work like that lol

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:08 PM

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Yupppp idk what they tought when making this level lol

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:09 PM

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I mean even ignoring the fact that this is supposed to be the same location from platypus 1

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to be fair platypus 1 is also pretty nonsensical, but this is a new level of that lol

mystic verge Oct 8, 2025, 4:11 PM

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@fleet pond I mean that could be using a lighting in this regular game

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:11 PM

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Wouldn't that make it shoot from all 5 angles though?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:12 PM

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Well true lmao. But at least Platypus 1 Level designs have some foundation based on real life stuff, even if then taken to a whole extra scale of cartoonish nonsense which makes it fun xD.

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Yeah the floating mines at least have some foundation on reality for example lol

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:13 PM

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Going from country hills to the sky to ocean isles and entering the city. It all transitions nicely.

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:14 PM

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This is something I thought we could add to platypus 2 reclayed

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more transtionary stuff

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Since they didn't really exist in platypus 2

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:16 PM

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mystic verge <@1051164516798451854> I mean that could be using a lighting in this regular gam...

The Cyan Starfish uses a specific lightning that zaps only in those directions like that. Not much control over changing it.

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:16 PM

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ionic stratus This is something I thought we could add to platypus 2 reclayed

It would be cool to add

mystic verge Oct 8, 2025, 4:17 PM

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fleet pond The Cyan Starfish uses a specific lightning that zaps only in those directions l...

so did you use that lighting script?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:20 PM

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I tried it before with the Saucers from PSP, but for a vertical lightning it doesn't work. It always zaps in those 5 directions. I also tried the classic Trash Can lightning, but it only works when shot from right to left. And on top of all, they always shoot in intervals. The idea here is for the lightning to always be lit up.

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If one tries to use the lightning as a bullet that goes in other directions or uses another turret's bahaviour, it will either not do anything or play the lightning sound and show a little short spark you can barely notice and doesn't hurt nothing.

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So I ended up using normal bullets behaviour with a SquidGun that is shooting the whole time, with a brand new vertical lightning texture.

mystic verge Oct 8, 2025, 4:30 PM

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alright. just figure it out

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:32 PM

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Eventually we will figure things out ^^ don't worry

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Everything that is being posted here at the moment is very much wip, you all need to rememeber that

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:35 PM

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We are working with limitations but Claymatic is very open to helping the modding world which is awesome, so we're hopeful that things will improve for the enemies. Right now, it's good for us to create/have a base for every enemy and then improve them upon.

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:36 PM

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We are still very much in early stages of development overall

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but I would say we still made really fast progress despite that overall

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:37 PM

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The fact we're getting the art and putting all these bad bois in the game is big already ^^ then they'll only need the tweaks that they deserve for full potential of each enemy.

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 4:40 PM

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I think I will remake alien building. Because old version is quite distorted

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:42 PM

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Go for it! I'd like to see what you do with it clay_smile

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although the current version is fine too imo

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:43 PM

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fleet pond The fact we're getting the art and putting all these bad bois in the game is big...

Yeah 100%

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eventually this base for the enemies will be established upon, but for now we need to make some stuff temporary so that we don't overwork ourselves for no reason

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:47 PM

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That too. We have a list we're constantly updating with the enemies so we know which ones have been made and need updates. For example, the lightning saucers need some visual tweaks which eventually will be looked into in later stages.

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:48 PM

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I still need to make a more refined list

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may do that next week

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:50 PM

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Good news are that most main new enemies from Platypus 2 are almost added, we're almost reaching the point where the enemies that remain are all Level 5 exclusives or the Bosses.

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:51 PM

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Yeah... those are going to take a while

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well mechanically some of them are pretty simple, and we can just reuse enemy AI

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but others... yeah

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:52 PM

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Also they'll all need new art probably

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:52 PM

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for sure

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the only things for that level that don't need new art are ones that are also edits from platypus 1

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I also thought of the option of adding even more enemies from nux... but I'd have to look into that

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:55 PM

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Maybe. Maybe some could be replaced even. I personally despise the virus lol

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 4:55 PM

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fleet pond Good news are that most main new enemies from Platypus 2 are almost added, we're...

I'm making boss 5 and now it's weapons and arms almost done

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:55 PM

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Yeah the virus needs a visual makeover

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:55 PM

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mortal snow I'm making boss 5 and now it's weapons and arms almost done

Oh that’s great!

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:55 PM

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it's clearly just the mine bullets but blown up and it looks very pixelated

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 4:55 PM

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ionic stratus Yeah the virus needs a visual makeover

more frames fish

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:56 PM

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mortal snow I'm making boss 5 and now it's weapons and arms almost done

Oh that's very nice!

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good luck with it!

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:56 PM

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solemn epoch more frames<:fish:935099751236501514>

more frames and more pixels

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It would honestly make more sense to just take the sprites for the mines and animate them

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:59 PM

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True

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 4:59 PM

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man, level 5 has so much 3d modeled sprites

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 4:59 PM

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in general platypus 2's original assets look very 3d and not clay like

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 4:59 PM

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At least the AI for the virus is simple, it's literally a faster homing missile

ocean meadow Oct 8, 2025, 5:00 PM

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Man my platypus phase ended a few weeks ago but i still go to here anc check out the updates everything is coming along really nicely !

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:00 PM

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Thank you!

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we're trying our best haha

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I think largely because we also want to play it lol

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:01 PM

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ocean meadow Man my platypus phase ended a few weeks ago but i still go to here anc check out...

I'll probably have a phase like a month or more fish

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:02 PM

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Honestly in an ideal world, Platypus Reclayed would've been a remake of both games

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:02 PM

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And Anthony would've made Platypus 2

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:02 PM

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but I can understand why Anthony didn't want to do it

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it's technically not even his game

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:03 PM

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fleet pond And Anthony would've made Platypus 2

(But now this can happen, the true Platypus 2)

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:03 PM

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Yeah I really hope that they make a sequel to Reclayed

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:03 PM

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Current Platypus 2 is like 1.5

ocean meadow Oct 8, 2025, 5:03 PM

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Platypus 2 from anthony would have been insane

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If he were to make a part 2 it would be named something else

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:04 PM

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I mean I think calling it Platypus 3 is fine lol

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:05 PM

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ionic stratus I mean I think calling it Platypus 3 is fine lol

that means platy2 is a canon sequel clay_spiral

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:05 PM

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I feel like Platypus 2 the original shouldn't be forgotten, even if it is def an inferior game

ocean meadow Oct 8, 2025, 5:05 PM

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Wouldnt that mean hed have to make the story consistent with part 2 then? Dont think that be favourable lol

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True

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I liked the vibe of it

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:05 PM

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Yeah... I can understand what you mean

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:05 PM

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PSP and 2 are non canon I'd say

ocean meadow Oct 8, 2025, 5:05 PM

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One huge issue id the gameplay was just so boring

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The themes were actaully nice

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Just wish the enemies would have been more original tho

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:06 PM

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my main issue with Platypus 2 is that it was too easy

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you can def tell that they slowed down the gameplay

ocean meadow Oct 8, 2025, 5:06 PM

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Definitely

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:06 PM

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Oh yes, I like some concepts from Platypus 2, execution was poor.

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:06 PM

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but it did have some cool ideas for sure

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:06 PM

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(Flamethrower is going to be added by Claymatic)

ocean meadow Oct 8, 2025, 5:06 PM

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You guys plan on shortening the gameplay compared to the original? Alongside making it more action packed

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:06 PM

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ocean meadow One huge issue id the gameplay was just so boring

and now someone can mod platypus 2 and play it in nasty

ocean meadow Oct 8, 2025, 5:07 PM

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Exactlyy

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:07 PM

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fleet pond (Flamethrower is going to be added by Claymatic)

Flamethrower was def one of the cooler ideas from it

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:07 PM

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Yuppp but the hitbox was bad

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:07 PM

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yeah, people complained about it here for a good reason lol

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the ship types were also def a cool addition

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I hope we can add them back in Platypus 2 reclayed

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:08 PM

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Level 1 is probably the best level concept, because I think everyone always dreamed of a level in that ice pole from the globe since Platypus 1...

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But it needed more snow

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:09 PM

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fleet pond Level 1 is probably the best level concept, because I think everyone always drea...

I am def hoping that's what that DLC stage is going to be

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:09 PM

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Would be epic

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:09 PM

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fleet pond But it needed more snow

platypus 2 made it look like a bunch of tiny islands fish_dinner

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:10 PM

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solemn epoch platypus 2 made it look like a bunch of tiny islands<:fish_dinner:13988463391142...

Yuppp literally Level 3 from Platypus 1 reskinned 😭

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:10 PM

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You can tell why Platypus 2's version of the north pole isn't located in the center of it

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because they would have to make a ton of snow art assets

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so they just put it on the edge of the north pole and reused a lot of the water gfx

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:10 PM

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We def should add more snow here in Reclayed

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Ultraverse already did it!

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:11 PM

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reskin some of the level sprites 👀

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:11 PM

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we just need to add it into the game

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:11 PM

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ohh

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Oh steps ahead, that’s siiiick

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:11 PM

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after I finish with domeships that's def my next goal

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to start adding the level assets into the game

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:12 PM

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Nicee

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 5:12 PM

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I have a question. Should we add level 6 as an exclusive thing in Platypus 2 Reclayed or not?

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:12 PM

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there's also the islands that geio made

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:12 PM

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mortal snow I have a question. Should we add level 6 as an exclusive thing in Platypus 2 Rec...

Maybe later

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for now we should focus on remaking the already existing content

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Honestly a possible idea for a level 6, would be to make the cave area of level 5 into its own stage

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similarly to how level 5 in vanilla reclayed is an extention of level 4

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:15 PM

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im kinda wondering for boss 5/mother-brain, do you plan to make a recolor of the reclayed's boss 5 or try to concept it as close like the platypus 2?

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:15 PM

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as close as we can get

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but I assume we will probably base it on boss 5 to some extent

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:15 PM

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Well we have to

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Its the closest behaviour

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:16 PM

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yeah true

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:16 PM

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All bosses will have to be based on already existing ones

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:16 PM

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Yeah... if we had more extensive mod tools perhaps we'd be able to program it to be even more faithful... but that doesn't seem to be in the cards

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:17 PM

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But can be tweaked

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Boss 3 tho...

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No idea

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:17 PM

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some compromises will def have to be met though, unless claymatic goes even further in terms of adding mod support

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:18 PM

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fleet pond Boss 3 tho...

I had an idea to just stack a bunch of fish next to each other, to get it to look like they all form a segmented boss

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and just give them way more health

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:18 PM

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fleet pond Boss 3 tho...

does the boomerang ai have hardcoded things that code the duration it have on-screen?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:19 PM

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solemn epoch does the boomerang ai have hardcoded things that code the duration it have on-sc...

Yes they always leave the screen after their movement pattern is done

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:19 PM

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to be fair boss 3 also leaves the screen

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iirc

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:19 PM

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ionic stratus I had an idea to just stack a bunch of fish next to each other, to get it to loo...

Hm but how

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Yes but after a while

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:19 PM

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Yeah not sure...

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:19 PM

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Not like 2 secs XD

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:20 PM

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maybe those generic enemy behaviors will help us, who knows lol

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 5:20 PM

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ionic stratus Honestly a possible idea for a level 6, would be to make the cave area of level ...

That look a good idea! However I have some idea too. Example: Southern part of Platypus planet, neighboring moon, and underwater level.

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:21 PM

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ionic stratus maybe those generic enemy behaviors will help us, who knows lol

Yah we'll see

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:21 PM

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we can def do a level on the moon or saturn maybe

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would be a lot of work though...

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underwater stage I am not sure if would be fitting

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I feel like that's probably best left for Zhark lol

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:23 PM

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I think Nuxed and Nuxless would be a priority over Level 6 imo

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:23 PM

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Lol, probably

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:23 PM

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fleet pond Yes they always leave the screen after their movement pattern is done

Is it possible to modify the movement pattern? Your demo kinda reminds me of that exact boss pattern

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:25 PM

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solemn epoch Is it possible to modify the movement pattern? Your demo kinda reminds me of tha...

Sadly not, only their spawn origin and speed can be adjusted :/

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:25 PM

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fleet pond So Platypus 2 doesn't use the Orange Boomerangs from OG, it uses 2 other variant...

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:25 PM

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After they finish their twirling movement in 2/3 seconds, they leave the screen permanently

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Oh when did you make this

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I didn't even notice lol

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:26 PM

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Same day as moais

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Also green ray

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:26 PM

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fish

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:27 PM

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Oh you made them shoot missiles

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interesting

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:27 PM

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Yeah no minor enemy ever uses them

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:27 PM

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I think that could be interesting

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:28 PM

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It fits their pattern well I think

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They shoot a missile and flip away

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Some good timing

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:29 PM

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Is there a reason they create two of the same explosions though?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:29 PM

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I fixed it already

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:29 PM

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besides that I like the idea though

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ah nice

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:29 PM

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it looks nice also, since in platy2 green rays was kinda useless

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:29 PM

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I had the turret entity with an explosion as well but the entity is invisble

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:29 PM

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yeah more variety is def good

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blue and yellow fast ships I think may need more work, but I like it overall

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just they fly a bit too much away from the center of the screen

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Should be easily fixed, only some spawn tweaks would be needed

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:31 PM

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I think blue horseships is def my favorite one overall

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I like how it requires precise timing to get all of them

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although maybe we should make them a bit slower

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Hmm true yeah

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:33 PM

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yeah because we need player to have enough time to react to them

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:33 PM

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OG boomerangs have speed -2, I gave those speed 2. Maybe Speed 0 is a good in between

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:33 PM

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I would say maybe even -4

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you want players to be able to react to them quick enough

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:33 PM

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Yellow jumpers have -4 iirc

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So maybe yeah

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:34 PM

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Yellow speed is def better imo yeah

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:34 PM

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fleet pond So maybe yeah

We just have to think how these enemies will work in conjunction with other enemies

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:34 PM

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Yeah thry wont spawn alone, good point

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:34 PM

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like say if I was fighting another enemy at the same time I could see how that may be overwhelming

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but maybe we can adjust the speed for nasty etc

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:35 PM

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If they are too many, we can shrink the groups too

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:35 PM

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yeah perhaps

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:35 PM

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I used 12 cuz OG also uses that ammount

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But those are sparsely spawned

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:35 PM

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honestly considering domeships

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maybe making them in groups of 4-6 could be good

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like half of that

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:36 PM

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Yeah sounds good

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6 Horseshoes, 6 Jumpers, perhaps?

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:37 PM

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Yeah I think that's worth trying

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:39 PM

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Very well, noted

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:39 PM

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For green rays I think it may be good to splice them up between normal rays

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could def give some level design potential where you're trying to hit the green ones before the others

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:40 PM

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Good idea!

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:41 PM

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Their color also stands out more, so it only makes sense lol

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:42 PM

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Although I tought of saving White Rays for Level 4 similarly to how OG Grey Saucers and Big Green Squid only appear there. Your idea probably works better.

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So Level 2 could use both

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And maybe Big Green Squid could appear in other Levels as well...

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Grey Saucers could probably be the only exclusive enemy to Level 4

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:44 PM

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fleet pond Although I tought of saving White Rays for Level 4 similarly to how OG Grey Sauc...

I mean functionally we've already changed the green rays, so it makes more sense to me for them to be used together

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since in the original those were technically white rays

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Yup

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And the white ray sprites are in Platypus 2 files

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Alien's mouth entrance Reclayed

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Which makes me believe they ended up as a scrapped enemy

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:45 PM

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fleet pond Grey Saucers could probably be the only exclusive enemy to Level 4

I mean I wouldn't be against giving the saucers from p2 a new attack

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to differntiate them as well

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:46 PM

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Me neither

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I like that too

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:46 PM

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Since we've already made the reskins their own entities, I think it makes sense to mix things up more

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:47 PM

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mortal snow Alien's mouth entrance Reclayed

Oh cool!

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:47 PM

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Yeah no need for exclusive stuff

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Well only Level 5 ig

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:47 PM

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Yeah level 5 for sure

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the other levels we can mix things up more

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:48 PM

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I mean Level 4 could probably still use "exclusive" enemies

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Only those would appear there ig

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:48 PM

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it's not like platypus 2 didn't reuse certain enemy sprites from platypus 1 anyway for levels that are not level 4

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:48 PM

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But not mixed

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Like instead of green rays and white rays, only white rays in Level 4

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Saucers and fishes too

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:49 PM

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fleet pond I mean Level 4 could probably still use "exclusive" enemies

Yeah maybe, or making it so the quantity of platypus 2 exclusive enemies is lower, since even level 4 uses buoys and homing missile squid for example

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Hmm yes true

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:50 PM

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fleet pond Saucers and fishes too

We'll cross that bridge when we get there I think, but in general I am not against the idea of mixing up enemies from both games more

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if it makes the gameplay more fun and engaging

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:51 PM

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What could yellow saucer's attack be?

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:51 PM

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talking about ray ships, this mean adding a rollship's attack possible 👀

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:51 PM

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Maybe they could need 2 hits to die

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They are a bit chubbier

mortal snow Oct 8, 2025, 5:52 PM

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Send jaws again (some backgrounds didn't remove in old)

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:52 PM

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fleet pond What could yellow saucer's attack be?

Maybe it could fire squid bullets?

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they are yellow after all

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:52 PM

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ooh cool

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:52 PM

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and making them take more hits is also not a bad idea

solemn epoch Oct 8, 2025, 5:53 PM

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agree, especially since platy2 made it more detailed than the gray saucers

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:53 PM

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There is a PSP Saucer that does that indeed, which is the mirrored saucer but individually. Maybe those can be replaced here?

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Only appears on Survival Mode iirc

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:54 PM

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The PSP saucer shoots squid bullets?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:54 PM

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There's a version of if that does yes

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:55 PM

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Interesting... does it just look like a normal saucer?

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:55 PM

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The sprite is the same of a mirrored saucer from the lightning saucers

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But flies individually like a saucer

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:55 PM

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So basically they look exactly the same as normal saucers

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we can def make that then

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for the platypus 2 saucers

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and then when we do psp reclayed we can just use the p2 saucers again

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:56 PM

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ionic stratus So basically they look exactly the same as normal saucers

Well they are a bit of a redundant enemy yes, since the lightning saucers already use their sprites and makes more sense

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:57 PM

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ionic stratus and then when we do psp reclayed we can just use the p2 saucers again

True...

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:57 PM

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fleet pond Well they are a bit of a redundant enemy yes, since the lightning saucers alread...

Yeah but lightning saucer looks just like normal saucer

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:57 PM

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Yes but mirrored

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:57 PM

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the only difference is the lightning from what I've seen

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Ohhhh

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I get you now

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I mean... I don't really think the mirrored thing works for anything but the lightning variant

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 5:59 PM

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100% agreed

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 5:59 PM

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like it makes some sense the 2 saucers would have to shoot from their bottom to combine for the attack

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 6:00 PM

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P2 saucers fit so much better for the laser

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Peak idea

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Also besides the bosses in PSP, only one more enemy needs a recolor lol

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 6:02 PM

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I guess you mean the yellow flip plane

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 6:02 PM

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A bit green-ish

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That doesn't flip yeah

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And shoots spread lasers

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 6:03 PM

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I am pretty out of the loop for psp content since I never played it lol

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but I suppose those could be nice to add as well

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 6:04 PM

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The only new enemies are laser mirrored saucer (survival), lightning saucers, no-flip plane laser spreadshot.

There are also stationary hanging bombs and mines in Volcanic Caves but those already have art and then...the 2 bosses lol.

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And Cloud Kingdom's boss is very simple to add thanks to Mine Layer behaviour

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And then attach 2 lightning entities to the wings

ionic stratus Oct 8, 2025, 6:10 PM

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It sounds like we'll probably be able to make PSP reclayed even more 1:1

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Although again we may want to make some alterations

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not sure how well designed those levels are

fleet pond Oct 8, 2025, 10:29 PM

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ionic stratus It sounds like we'll probably be able to make PSP reclayed even more 1:1

We will!

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They are somewhat similar to classic Platypus design wise.

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Since they introduced few new enemies, everything else is a bunch of recycled OG ideas slapped on top.

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But yeah we can definitely rework some bits to make them stand out more.

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(Once we get to PSP ofc hehe)

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Art wise Cloud Kingdom should be very simple. They reutilized the clouds and the "new" art are edited ones, those being castles floating in some landmass in the air.

As for the caves they are very minimalistic art wise, a background, plus top and bottom sprites which are similar design wise to Platypus 2 Level 5's cave/mouth/whatever thingy it is entrance xd

zinc citrus Oct 9, 2025, 1:27 AM

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So besides the colors in the shadows the new buoy edits are good, but I notice the issue of the turret sections having the gap yet the barrel being on top of the actual turret meaning it gets supported by nothing, all variants should have the barrel be longer and behind the buoy

ionic stratus Oct 9, 2025, 6:19 AM

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Yeah the barrel is a placeholder

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