LMS black 5

[sly solar]

Black 5 is a chad. But where is my Jubilee?

[agile willow]

Heck yeah

[golden geyser]

Eventually™

[winter sable]

Just paint it red :p

[sly solar]

Not even close.

MECHANICAL DIFFERENCES

Black 5: 2Cyl
Jubilee: 3cyl

[little sentinel]

The great classic

[somber kiln]

Now that the 8F has been released, maybe the Black Five might get some love.

[mortal walrus]

Plus the Black 5 has 6 ft drivers as well as 18.5 by 28 cylinders compared to the Jubilee with its 6'9" drivers and 20 by 26 cylinders.

[sly solar]

[loud tangle]

he's black and he's five

he's the black five

This would be cool for the LMS bunch :)

[golden geyser]

a black 5 is on my "todo" list, i do have a model, but its a bit too low poly for DV, so it would require quite significant changes
as it stands my goal is the Fowler 4F next, ill see how my motivation is for a partial remodel of the black 5 to make it up to standard

[somber kiln]

Dare I ask if you plan to complete the line up with a coronation class?

[vagrant lodge]

One of the most underrated locomotives in British railway history (the 4F)

[golden geyser]

while i have a model of the coronations, im not entirly sure if its worth all the effort to put it into DV, with the loco being an express passenger loco in a game majority about freight

[somber kiln]

True, but the Pax mod is pretty great, and who doesn’t want freight rolling at 100mph

[mortal walrus]

In defense of the Coronation's, they have a 4 cylinder simple setup to deliver 3,000-3,300 horsepower. It might actually do good as a light-medium duty fast freight engine as well.

[loud tangle]

...the coronations have 3k horsepower?

[somber kiln]

I mean they could reach speeds of 183kmh, and were expected to pull 20, 40-ton coaches.

I’d say that checks

[loud tangle]

Wild

3k horsepower is also the horsepower of a EMD E7, right?

[somber kiln]

it was expected to pull 480 tons minimum.

Probably more.

[loud tangle]

ah i see

Probably something new i learned

well

I THought that a engine's HP would be universal to what it could do

right?

[somber kiln]

Ehhh,

That’s different then it’s “tonnage”

[loud tangle]

if a Passenger engine or a Freight engine had a high HP it didn't really matter if they were pulling freight or passenger

i seeee

[somber kiln]

To put it simply HP doesn’t really matter if it can’t pull it.

or if it doesn’t have the tractive effort to pull it.

[loud tangle]

Interesting

that says some stuff actually

[somber kiln]

For example by “techinally” the Black 5 is more practical to pull a “large” amount of coaches due to its sheer tractive effort. though it won’t be able to do it fast due to it’s HP.

It’s also why the SH282 can “seem” to pull more then a DE6 until it reaches a gradient

[loud tangle]

curious

hmmmmm

Yeah that makes sense

[golden geyser]

they would be heavy work, designed to pull the 500t royal scot set from London to Glasgow
the reason im not set on it, is their heavy passenger focus, and with the scale and speed limits of the map, its main advantage would be heavily lost

im going to be focusing on the freight and mixed traffic designs over express designs like the coronation

[mortal walrus]

So Black 5 and then to the Red Stanier's?

[golden geyser]

.

[sly solar]

Bumping this

[golden geyser]

well my black 5 model went from "low poly" to "oh jesus" out of scale

the 4f is in progress, (re) texture is ongoing,

any black 5 model for me will need to be a remodel and will take some time to be done

[sly solar]

Yikes

[golden geyser]

for context, i finally got actual diagrams for it rather than the "less than perfect" 'Roche' drawings i had previously

its come out the loco is not only over 2 ft too long but too high, with a far too large boiler, add ontop just about everything else that was horrifically inaccurate

im hoping it will be this year atleast i can get it remastered for DV

[sly solar]

Fair enough.

[raw jasper]

I gotta say that at least to me, Emerald’s 8f is the best modded loco I’ve ever tried: everything works and feels streamlined and it looks awesome without tanking fps

So I’m so excited for the 4f and the eventual Black 5

[sly solar]

Black five balling

[sly solar]

Bumping

[golden geyser]

ill let you know my plan then.

the idea is to finish the BR standard 2 im doing
then work on both the Stanier Mogul and the Black 5 at the same time

[sly solar]

[loud tangle]

how is this supposed to work 😭⁉️

[golden geyser]

? i just split my time modelling between the two depending on what one i have motivation for at that moment

[loud tangle]

ah

i see

Well i hope it all works out because that actually kinda looks pretty effective