Thomas The Tank Engine

[exotic oyster]

I think Thomas should have a larger water capacity, what do you think?

and remove its left lamp

[sonic roost]

I might just make than anyway. I'll have to see what's involved in making a custom item pack

If someone wants to model them I'll make all the faces swappable via car changer

Yes. They're on the tall box to the left of the backgead.

That's the plan. I just have to add keyboard controls and then I'll send it in for testing

[grizzled moth]

if you do i would love if there was a set of electric ones and a set of non electric ones. also sorry for starting the question bombardment lol

[pastel arrow]

I wonder if the Gearbox A & B Eye controls could be put together on a simulated multi-axis joystick. Like, you only have to make one move and both gearboxes respond appropriately, rather than set position A, then set postion B. (Would make for more... "organic" eye movement, but may be more trouble than it's worth...)

[sonic roost]

Iirc the game doesn't support a control-on-a-control

[pastel arrow]

Yeah, I figured as much.

[zenith sail]

i need frrr

i wish you could change the chuffing sound

i forgot if zeibachs sounds does that or if its just for whistles and horns

[sonic roost]

Rn I have it set up as the vanilla chuff because I'm not arsed to spend the time figuring out how to set up custom audio

[sonic roost]

Uhhhhh idk I'll have to see. The problem would be telling them apart. Plus if I did make electric ones they wouldn't even work on Thomas

[grizzled moth]

oh right i forgot thomas doesnt have a dyno

[sonic roost]

Yep

[zenith sail]

i think youd have to use zeibachs mod or smth

[zenith sail]

that explains why my electric gadgets dont work

which kind of makes putting them on thomas useless

[grizzled moth]

yeah

[shadow portal]

im just wondering, is this mod released yet?

i see it is

[sonic roost]

There's a testing version available for download

Is there a list or chart anyway for all the keyboard controls for locos?

[lost yarrow]

The dropdowns in the input proxies list all available actions.

I should probably rename the "add control controls" context menu option to "add control inputs"...

[shadow portal]

i saw. i got it. now im looking for a S060

[sonic roost]

Yeah I know. But I don't know for example what kind of control to use for, say, enabling the compressor

Are all the controls just keyboard buttons?

Why is there a scrollwheel option then

[lost yarrow]

The compressor is either on or off, so you probably want a toggle.

Unfortunately this depends on more than what the control type is.

The wizard is usually smart enough to figure out what to use BTW.

It does require some knowledge of keybinds in this case.

I don't use the keyboard at all so had to more or less figure it out as I looked at the actions, but if something has 2 keys, you usually want a "mouse scroll" type, if you want a single key toggle, then it's either a toggle switch (for switch controls, which only support 2 positions) or a toggle value (for the rest).

[sonic roost]

right...

[zenith sail]

i can look at all the keyboard controls for the 060 real quick

[sonic roost]

• added keyboard controls
• added labels
• changed the whistle audio to loop better (still clicks a little)
• fixed whistle clipping into backhead
• changed whistle handle colour
• made blowoff last a shorter time
• changed ladder colliders
• fixed teeth being invisible
• added eye control levers
• moved the info plate into the cab
• fixed the speedo not working in reverse
• added coal dump lever

[sonic roost]

wait shit i left the port plotter on

hold on let me fix some stuff

[grizzled moth]

lets GOOOOO

[sonic roost]

• disabled the port plotted
• fixed coal dump not working in the HUD
• added keyboard controls to the coal dump

[grizzled moth]

instant download lmao

[sonic roost]

use this one instead unless you want a big grey box when you spawn in lol

[sonic roost]

again if you find anything lmk

[grizzled moth]

o7

any thomas spawned in before the update cant move his eyes

the reverser is still super sensitive

and personally i think that the throttle has to few notches

[shadow portal]

i havent tried the mod yet, but make it like the de2

thats my opinion

[fresh totem]

It's Thomas, he's a steam engine, not a diesel.

[shadow portal]

like the throttle points

but idk, just throwing ideas

[fresh totem]

Oh, I thought you meant function-wise. The throttle is a different matter. Others were complaining about Thomas's throttle being too sensitive and it should have more notches, which I agree with.

[shadow portal]

and im saying give it as much throttle points as a diesel

[grizzled moth]

so my notes/complaints are

reverser is heavy
throttle has enough notches but the mouse scroll/keyboard inputs are a bit heavy so they skip a notch
whistle sticks if you hold it for a second

[sonic roost]

Yeah you'll have to spawn new ones- wait SHIT i didn't pack the updated car changer

[grizzled moth]

oop

[sonic roost]

• adjusted regulator values
• adjusted reverser values
• packaged car changer mod in the zip
• adjusted handbrake position

uhhh for this I reccomend completely reinstalling the mod rather than just overwriting the file

itll ensure the car changer mod updates

[zenith sail]

im finna put a nameplate on js so he has a number

lol

[zenith sail]

theres actualy no clicking

with the whistle loop

well a small one anyway

i dont really notice it tho tbh

[alpine pendant]

Is it OK if you have it where it’s like a pin message so if I need to find out later on the line, I can just go to the pin messages and find it

[sonic roost]

Uhh, I don't have pin privileges.. let me see if I can find someone that does

I don't think anyone here does. Could you download it and leave it on your desktop for the future?

[iron pivot]

@sonic roost when/are you planing to put this on Nexus mods?

[sonic roost]

if this round of testing has no further issues I'll throw it up

[zenith sail]

doesnt seem to have any issues

is it possible to make thomas a work train?

[zenith sail]

idk if you knew this already but theres a small gap between the light and the actual lamp housing

[sonic roost]

Yeah that's known. That's just kind if a side effect of how the game handles interactable things

[zenith sail]

ah ok

i keep forgetting he doesnt have a dynamo so none of the electricity gadgets work

[shadow portal]

so the Dovetail Thomas game just launched, or is launching soon

[zenith sail]

i gotta buy that one

and check it out

[shadow portal]

its the same mechanics as the train world sim games

[sonic roost]

I remember finding the tsw 5 demo fun ish but I don't see much replayability in it

[lime gust]

if someone gets the thomas game they could proably grab a couple screenshots of thomass cab

[tight light]

So it is confirmed that all the backheads for the engines are based on their real life counterparts, except for James as there's no class 28's preserved so they used a class 27

[sonic roost]

There's no E2s preserved either though, so what did they use for his backhead?

[tight light]

https://youtu.be/kJvCV00qNq0?si=7G5jxCSXNs0jFXTj unlucky tug got early access and played with all of them if you want to watch

[sonic roost]

Hmmmm I shall give this a watch...

[sonic roost]

3 hours damnnnnn

[tight light]

Oh yeah 😂

[iron pivot]

Maybe like an E4 one, since one E2 used an E4 boiler?

[sonic roost]

Good point

[empty sorrel]

it looks like a detailed version of the tv series cab, from the video and screenshots i've seen

[sonic roost]

Should I make Thomas a work loco, or should he spawn at the roundhouses (HB and MF)

[iron pivot]

Maybe an option for him to be either? Like so you can change in mod settings if he's a work loco, or he's somehwere in the valley by default (If it is possible to do such a thing in the mods of course)

[sonic roost]

If that is possible I don't know to do it unfortunately..

[iron pivot]

Ahhh... Hmm, well, maybe then just make him just spawn natuarlly, but only in one place, so It's like more ''realistic'' if you know what I mean, like that theres only one Thomas

and not multiple ones

[sonic roost]

Yeah I getcha

[iron pivot]

Also, a quick bug report. Thomas' interiour disappers if you fly away a little in freecam/follow cam

[sonic roost]

That's normal. It's an LOD group to try keep things performant

[iron pivot]

Ahhh, okay

[iron pivot]

Also, will you do more NWR engines, or will it be just Thomas?

[sonic roost]

Most likely just thomas, because Turb had a model and textures ready to go. I don't want to discount their contributions to this

I have some other projects I want to do as well

Turb*

[iron pivot]

Okayy. Well, I wish you luck and success with your other projects

[sonic roost]

Thanky you

I should add, if someone had other models ready to go for the other engines I'd consider implementing more

[zenith sail]

i might have a couple for a youtube series i’m working on

i know that i have percy, and i think i have a couple of other ones but id have to double check my computer

[stiff temple]

i do have an edward model 👀

but i would like to have thomas in a completed state before we move on to edward

[sonic roost]

You weren't meant to come back with another model 😭 /lh

[pastel arrow]

I'd say work train, so that there can only be one at any point in time, but in the end, it's your call.

[stiff temple]

i always come back

[sonic roost]

His ass is not the terminator

[stiff temple]

nah im springtrap

[grizzled moth]

faded and in the bg work on jaaaaames

[empty sorrel]

work loco

that's what i think i would end up doing if i ever finish my thomas model.

[zenith sail]

you stole that line!

[pastel arrow]

"I always come back" -Some weird rabbit fursuiter.

[zenith sail]

lmfao

[sonic roost]

Problem with doing work train to make there only be one Thomas is the fact that the mod adds two thomases: one with a face and one without

But eh what the hell

Since nobody's found any more outstanding issues I'll do one last pass (maybe add the components for vr controls) and then chuck it up on Nexus

@stiff temple will you have a texture for the loco with the 1 on it?

[stiff temple]

yea ill go ahead and do that later today its 3 am

[pastel arrow]

Make 'em both work trains: Face and Faceless - Buy 'em both.

[lime gust]

we need a troublesome trucks mod next

[sonic roost]

Truck mod but I've left colliders clipping into one another so it spasses out

[lime gust]

rip

[stiff temple]

true

we need them RCH 7 plank trucks

[stiff temple]

number completed!!

[zenith sail]

i have a ton of ttte rolling stock models

i have like the tankers, the troublesome trucks and vans,

thomas does go well with the british rolling stock pack tho

[stiff temple]

could we see them?

[zenith sail]

they're on my old hard drive somewhere

ill dig through it tonight

[gloomy reef]

Release them seperately, people that want one with a face would download the face one and people who would want a faceless version would download the faceless version

But i guess that maintaining 2 mod pages would be annoying

[sonic roost]

Hm that could work..

[empty sorrel]

why not just two work trains?

[sonic roost]

uhhhhh what should the unlock and summon prices be for thomas

[sonic skiff]

$19450 (referencing the year the first book was made) for unlock
Maybe ~$2500 for summon?

[stiff temple]

!!!

i decided to use numbers from the model series instead of what it actually appears with so it seems more inline with the era the model represents

[zenith sail]

well done

[sonic roost]

Bad news chat. In order for this to work I'm going to have to make yhomas spawnable because the only way to change a livery is to own the loco, and the only way to do that with LocoOwnership is to buy a naturally-spawned loco

Or I could just pull a have four thomases

[lost yarrow]

Work trains are owned.

[sonic roost]

Is the CCL work trains menu available in sandbox? I can't seem to find it

[lost yarrow]

In sandbox you spawn work trains the same way as everything else.

[sonic roost]

I must have just set up the paint wrong. Oh well

[frigid rapids]

Speaking of numbers

Where’s his number one??

[stiff temple]

it will be added in the next update

[digital delta]

thomas is a shortened modified LB&SCR E2

[lime gust]

I thought he had the extended side tanks?

[fresh totem]

He does

[grizzled moth]

ngl i know thomas is supposed to be an e2

but to me he is just thomas

like i can see gordon as an a1 or toby as a j70

but thomas isnt an e2, he is just thomas

[dense briar]

thomas is too far off from an E2, honestly, that it feels... generic? in a way?

full width cab, splashers (which wouldn't be present on an E2 due to the raised running board), simplified front frame extension thingies (the things that stick out at the base of his smokebox) alongside a narrower smokebox saddle, a smaller overall size,

they done made him into a freelance that's inspired by the E2

[stiff temple]

genuinely peak design result tho

thomas's design is definitely a glorified E2

[zenith sail]

i love his design over an actual E2 tbh

[frigid rapids]

his ORIGINAL illustrations look more similar to one

but he got shortened and simplified over time so that kinda fell to the wayside

[zenith sail]

any nexus releases coming soon? 👀

[sonic roost]

Ugh.. I left off on trying to get the paint working and then college started kicking my ass so..

Once I get the paint working though I'll chuck it up on Nexus

[zenith sail]

Cool beans

[iron pivot]

Fun fact: Thomas does automaticly regauge himself with gauge mod, tho the siderods are broken, and just move mid-air

[grizzled moth]

O:

[zenith sail]

lol

[sonic roost]

I cant seem to get the livery working so I'm just going to pack this as is and chuck this up onto nexus

I also for the life of me cannot get the CCL work train thing to work so I'll just make him spawn in the harbour

[lost yarrow]

You're not testing the work trains in sandbox right?

It's just setting it like this.

[sonic roost]

I went into career but it didnt show up in the coms radio

[lost yarrow]

And it didn't appear in the CCL shop of the radio?

[sonic roost]

I went into "CCL Work Trains" and "enter workshop" and there was nothing there

[lost yarrow]

Can you post the log?

[sonic roost]

I since restarted the game and I honestly not bothered to go back and reenable it and reexport it

[lost yarrow]

The previous log is still available, unless you restarted it one more time.

[sonic roost]

log.prev?

[lost yarrow]

Yeah.

[sonic roost]

I think it might. Ill chuck it here and see ig

idk

[lost yarrow]

On a separate note, it seems you added the shoveling component to the audio.

Otherwise no clue really.

[sonic roost]

dont see how i could have; there's no component labeled shovelling in the audio prefab

[lost yarrow]

No Magic Shoveling Proxy anywhere?

Because that'd be mutliple of them.

[sonic roost]

oh, yeah, I do. whoops

[lost yarrow]

I assume Car_audio is your audio prefab, and it has an object named ttte_audio with that stuff.

[sonic roost]

the prefab itself is named ttte_audio

right Ive removed all the magic shovelling proxies

should I keep the ones on the template prefabs?

[lost yarrow]

There should only be one in your main prefab.

It is what makes HUD shovelling work.

[sonic roost]

right

[stiff temple]

why did i only get credited for texturing? 😭

i modeled the body to 😔

im just teasing of course so dont think im taking it personally

[pastel arrow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/derailvalley/mods/1475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdqxcqLGK5Q

Beautiful work! Looking forward to @Fen's Railway Series Pack! (If they're still making it....)

[alpine pendant]

He’s done!? Yeah!!

[empty sorrel]

i feel the texture is in dire need of an ambient occlusion map

[steel osprey]

Rosie what happened

[acoustic fern]

That's Rosie's Croatian cousin, Ruza. She's just more shy about showing her face off to strangers.

[pastel arrow]

This really looks like it could be in the show. I can literally see Thomas saying, "Don't worry, I'll take your train from here for you!"

I can imagine people are gonna start making and living in their own Thomas and Friends stories... It's nice. I'm still hoping for more NWR engines (and potentially some coaches) to show up, but I'd be content with our favorite #1 Engine.

[drowsy umbra]

Hello! if this is a channel for discussing locomotive mod, could someone please send me a zip-file so i can donwload it - not throught Nexus Mods?

[glad ferry]

why no nexus? that is the main source of mod downloadign

dont support when its cracked stuff.

[sonic roost]

The mod page has a mirror to the github repository

[tight light]

I'm just going to throw this in here since I just made it 😂

[pastel arrow]

https://youtu.be/xpRWVEpAFCI?si=7QuB-TMDsbQOri51
OMG Someone made a version of Thomas and the Trucks in Derail Valley!!

[sonic roost]

Oh that's so cool!

It's soo cool they managed to make the eyes move in two ways at once

[stiff temple]

look at my son go 🥹

[shadow portal]

do we have a mod link yet?

[fresh totem]

#mods-news message

[shadow portal]

thanks

[frigid rapids]

Haven’t had the chance to play the mod yet, genuinely how

How are the eyes moving

What witchcraft is that

[pastel arrow]

Gearboxes for left/right and up/down

[frigid rapids]

Fascinating

[pastel arrow]

They made a remake of Thomas and Gordon, too! Yay!

[frigid rapids]

The funny part is that they use the demo s282 when there’s an actual NWR Blue livery mod for it

[empty sorrel]

Texture mods not compatible with ccl

[pastel arrow]

They are now. P sure they fixed that with the new update to CCL. After all, I can finally repaint my CCL engines while having vanilla engines reskinned. It's just Katycat's mods (Skin Manager and Passenger Jobs) are semi-rushing out fixes so they're a bit outta whack.

[alpine pendant]

Will ya be adding other liverys to Thomas like his LBSC green livery

[lime gust]

@sonic roost thought of another mod idea for u. Remember Thomas's jet engine from I think season 5?

[sonic roost]

https://www.nexusmods.com/derailvalley/mods/1368

[sonic roost]

Tried to but couldn't get it working

[lime gust]

Meant like an actual piece of rolling stock

I'm aware that exists but I meant a seperate jet engine thingy that's a piece of rolling stock

[sonic roost]

Oh, right.
Yeah I don't really have any interest in doing another mod for a while

[lime gust]

Fair

If I had time I would learn how to model and then try and figure out the landmine that is porting into ccl

[alpine pendant]

Damn

[zenith sail]

you mightve had to make it a seperate mod

[frigid rapids]

If anyone made some good ideas maybe we could get a DVRT livery

[sonic roost]

Turb21 has the green livery textures if you want to make a skin manager addon for it

[junior cedar]

the fact he did not derail in this song is inpresive if we went that speed in this game were off the tracks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCnK6gkGg1U

[zenith sail]

@sonic roost would you mind if i put a dynamo on thomas so the gadets actually work