#The Snail

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spark bolt
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DE2 version of the Slug
(not my image)

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upbeat oxide
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Fun fact: a snail is an actual thing, the inverse of a slug: snails kept their prime movers but had their traction motors removed, supplying more generated electricity to powered traction motor units.

runic oracle
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I both love and hate it

ionic pivot
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snail and slug= locomotive

nocturne zinc
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its a big lego

slow iron
viscid grail
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Now I want both a snail and a slug in game. If the DV lore is to be believed, I would have no doubt in a couple of snail/slug pairs laying around the railroad

sand dirge
spark bolt
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Or shut/up

dusk pebble
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yes

sand dirge
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Beef, just let me do my own thing

drifting sundial
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You could almost start making a truth table of whether a locomotive has a cab, a prime mover and traction motors, and what you'd call them all.

✅✅✅: locomotive
❌❌✅: slug
And while we're at it, still in no particular order.
❌✅❌: snail
❌✅✅: B-unit
✅❌❌: Control car or DVT

spark bolt
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So a snail is basically a glorified diesel generator on a flatcar

sand dirge
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Yes

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In simplest terms, yes

mystic merlin
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Control car we can have with the passenger cars

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Get one of these thingies

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nocturne canopy
wanton raft
copper dawn
wraith tundra
wanton raft
mystic merlin
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There it is

spark bolt
mystic merlin
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Oof

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True

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Technically all the steamers are ❌❌❌ if we wanted to go that route too

wraith tundra
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Steamers have a cab don't they?

mystic merlin
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Nah make them convertibles 😂

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Who needs rain protection anyway

spark bolt
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Well that's a subway engine so they kinda have a roof most of the time

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Notice these huge exhaust pipes going back to the tank? They are there to not fill the tunnel with smoke and steam

wraith tundra
mystic merlin
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Take a joke pal

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Oh please do

viscid grail
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I mean, how does one define a cab?

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Does it have to be entirely enclosed? What about air conditioning/heating? Are windows required? Ventilation?

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If I put a large cardboard box on a flatcar, does it have a cab now?

drifting sundial
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I'd prefer to define cab to be "place from which the vehicle can be controlled without a remote."

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If it's there, ✅⏹️⏹️
If it's not, ❌⏹️⏹️

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(⏹️ means any value)

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So we have:
🕹️: cab/controls, 🔥: prime mover, 🛞: traction motors

🕹️🔥🛞 | name
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❌❌❌ | carriage
❌❌✅ | slug
❌✅❌ | snail
❌✅✅ | B-unit
✅❌❌ | control car, driving van trailer
✅❌✅ | road slug, electric locomotive
✅✅❌ | generator car I guess (some argue Diesel-mechanical locomotives are in this set)
✅✅✅ | locomotive

viscid grail
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So theoretically, of a snail can power 2 slugs, we could have loco-slug-slug-snail-slug-slug-loco and be able to pull anything

sand dirge
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Actually, yea your right

opal olive
spark bolt
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kinda

maiden surge
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"Sluglette"

timid cosmos
# wanton raft The weird Israeli Cab-Generator cars

These are especially cursed when they end up on electric push-pulls (not a thing to Jerusalem anymore after they ordered Desiro HCs, but the electrified bit of the south main still has push-pull and I forgor whether Modi'in is still diesel)

hollow sparrow
viscid grail
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Somewhat, more of just the setting of the railroad. Most stuff is in disrepair, so several rebuilt/repurposed loco's wouldn't be a suprise

tiny hearth
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n o .

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lol

spark bolt
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y e s .

sand dirge
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M o r e y e s

vast tide
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U l t I m a t e y e a

sand dirge
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T h e b e s t y e s t h e r e I s

tepid harbor
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i want snail

mystic merlin
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Road slug + Snail = Loco

marble crescent
unborn beacon
spark bolt
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Would be a B-unit

unborn beacon
vast tide
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hang on. does the loco remote pair to the snail?

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cuz if so, uber complicated DE6

brave hill
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Cant remote the DE6

drifting sundial
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If you want to remote a DE6, you must MU it with a loco that can remote, either a DE2 or a DH4.

mystic merlin
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or use a mod

vast tide
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i mean if the snail is a DE2, can the snail be RC connected and have the slug as a motion device? a DE6 but cheap and sketchy?

mystic merlin
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yesn't

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Still uses the de2 motor

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Which last time I tried de2 slug combo I stalled with empties going to frc

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never again

brave hill
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I thought the slug would make the de2 a viable hauler. I was mistaken

mystic merlin
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No just decreases chance of overheating

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Still have the same power

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As the slug only have traction motors

queen halo
drifting sundial
# queen halo Ooo what does DVT stand for?

Driving Van Trailer.

I mostly associate that specific phrase with British control cars from an era where having passengers and the driver in the same carriage was not allowed.

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Especially the back end of post-HST electric express trains had these kinds of carriages. Like the Class 90 + Mk 3 consists, or the Class 91 + Mk 4 "Intercity 225" consists

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The relevant rules have since been sunset, so the Mk 5 coach family has a regular control car.

spark bolt
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If anyone is curious Wiz is doing this

tiny hearth
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kool

surreal light
tiny hearth
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I want to drive a train with this, and the DE3

tiny hearth
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What % done is it

spark bolt
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The model is done but the code isn't

mystic merlin
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This and the slug will run the de6’s pockets

jovial heath
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You're giving me nightmares.

tiny hearth
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when snail progress

mystic merlin
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Probably a ccl thing to be honest

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Unless somebody wants to car charger a cab on the slug then make us use the wireless remote for controls

maiden tapir
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i think this should be added as a car changer thing, working like a slug

spark bolt
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Slug has traction motors and no prime mover, snail has a prime mover and no traction motors

frozen hamlet
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bro just made a slug for the DE2

carmine ocean
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But what happens if you combine the snail and the slug + the new control panel?

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Do you just get a DE-6 with an underpowered engine?

mystic merlin
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Temu locomotive

ocean edge
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i don't want it. I NEED IT. for it to be useful we need upgraded de2 wiring and breaker so it doesn't melt from the extra power considering it already try's to melt itself.

vast tide
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Or, it could be “Crap, my DE2’s lost its engine, I need the Snail to get moving again” power

mystic merlin
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But you’d need another locomotive to get the engine to the locomotive?

vast tide
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Enter the fact that it could be a crew car thing spawned with the radio.