Derail Valley : BURNOUT

[blazing crystal]

Derail Valley : BURNOUT

[frank creek]

might be a bit too much...unless fuel tenders are modded in, so you need to tow a fuel tender on the long trip

[blazing crystal]

*Thinking

[blazing crystal]

You are right! How about.....

Two stations are far enough to empty your fuel tank?

Like,you need a full fuel tank to start a job

Otherwise you will BURNOUT halfway

🥺

[frank creek]

Yeah, I think that idea sounds good.

locos will need larger fuel tanks towed behind them, unless they stop at smaller towns in the middle which have expensive fuel and wastes your time..

[blazing crystal]

Huh,i like that!
Stations's fuel price is low and middle stops' price are high

Either you fill up on cheap fuel and go, or you pay for your laziness

[blazing crystal]

Just wanted to make jobs more challenging....No time limit,longer bonus time!

[frank creek]

yeah, but the extra penalty of expensive fuel, to penalise you for not having a large fuel tender, and penalise even more if you are not full and thus stop many times.

[blazing crystal]

Indeed.

[blazing crystal]

Like this feeling

[red marsh]

Love that logo though, did you make it?

[blazing crystal]

Yes. And～～～
I have made another one earlier

I am making this map currently@red marsh

This map is designed for those like high speed

Doesn't have much curves,it is mostly long straight tracks

So i called it OVERSPEED

[rustic tusk]

this can be quite interesting, but will also make apocalyptic locomotives overpowered for it since they have large fuel tanks(4 engine is around 3x the range of de-2, this range will probably be on lower mid end)

[blazing crystal]

🤔yeah....

[rustic tusk]

but well, having for example 50km of track will allow most locomotives to run out of fuel and solution would be bringing extra locomotives to keep power or use the expensive to run and shitty apocalyptic locomotives so there wouldn't be a perfect situation in any case, that will become interesting, all the compromises

depending on map hills it could even become a good use for battery locomotives which would regen brake on downhills and extend the train's range(game compatibility to be determined)
HOOOOOOOOOO, this is becoming way too interesting

[blazing crystal]

I am very glad you like it

[blazing crystal]

I know,right? HAHAHAHA

[blazing crystal]

but ummm.....

This map will be made for....around 1885

Will your apocalyptic fit in its style?

[rustic tusk]

.....iiiiitttts fiiiiiiiiiiinnneeeeeeeee, apocalypse is around 2080-2100 at the start

[blazing crystal]

huh,what will it look like

Back to the future?

Haha

Driving a 2080 locomotive in 1885

cowboys:“what the hell is that?”

[blazing crystal]

Well my original intention is to make a map for old steam locomotives

Like the 4-4-0 american

and for narrow gauge trains

That is why i use that font to make the logo

[rustic tusk]

well, having fun is more important, players will not always play a mod with modders intentions

[blazing crystal]

Indeed hahahaha

[rustic tusk]

as far i know at this moment there isn't any locomotive available in derail valley from that age, eh, doesn't matter, there is a thing called "close enough"

[blazing crystal]

hahahha close enough

Anyway

Fun is the first

Don't need to make a rule for it

“NO FUTURE LOCOMOTIVES IN HERE”

We need fun! hahaha

[rustic tusk]

with steamers at this moment it would probably be easier to travel the challenge distance, halfabrain might or not be making a aussie style tender which would be perfect for this map
But well, the challenge of using the available locomotives with much shorter range would be more fun i think, throttle control, turning off, redundant locomotives would be important

[steep wyvern]

desert bus: train edition

[blazing crystal]

Didn't expect to know there's still someone to remember this game

😁

[blazing crystal]

well....BURNOUT is expected to be a challenge map,if you want satisfaction,you can expect OVERSPEED

Difficulty:
OVERSPEED＜OVERHAUL＜BURNOUT

[rustic tusk]

better edit "overhauled" to "base game"
To make people use locomotives something like 1-1.6% grades on the way would be a good idea, deserts aren't always flat, but well, you are the map maker(flat maps would allow locomotives to keep their speed for a long time so even a 4 engine which is rated at 230t will be able to do around 900t on flat)

[blazing crystal]

Although i am the maker,i still need your suggestions.
AFTER all,a map liked by most people is a successful map 😄

[rustic tusk]

https://www.google.com/maps/@-23.6248614,-70.3372988,3a,61.4y,56.11h,99.18t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sssKU41KB4UopVrp3zTudpQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DssKU41KB4UopVrp3zTudpQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D346.7154%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
here it is a mountainous desert
Mongolia+AU based locations might be a bit too flat to make proper challenge in the map

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.8722198,49.80036,3a,90y,301.91h,91.95t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipMnVo-3fnmRfG4Av0Lhlc_AWPTM4ZnqE19HMtlQ!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMnVo-3fnmRfG4Av0Lhlc_AWPTM4ZnqE19HMtlQ%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya21.000011-ro-0-fo100!7i10240!8i5120?hl=en
this is quite a nice looking view, for those that like iran
https://www.google.com/maps/@23.5048715,46.2187046,3a,90y,172.86h,95.4t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNY95YH9iOzGd6c8bt_QsnI_u9Va5WjoFEk1Xnc!2e10!3e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNY95YH9iOzGd6c8bt_QsnI_u9Va5WjoFEk1Xnc%3Dw203-h100-k-no-pi-0-ya118.000015-ro-0-fo100!7i8000!8i4000?hl=en
saudi arabia

ho wait, google access, maybe harder for you😅
Anyway, there are many types of deserts, so you have many inspirations for the look you wish to have

[frank creek]

little 1.5% grades will be enough to keep locos on their toes!

[frank creek]

I think given they have access to Discord they may live in the RoC rather than the PRC

Given that PRC bans google I can't see them allowing discord usage except for some extremely limited cases of international business?

Also their bio has what seems like a message aimed against the PRC, so y'know that wouldn't go down well with the PRC

Even as a self-proclaimed socialist I hate the PRC, they don't help their people despite what they call themselves! They're state capitalist, the politicians just help themselves by getting their buddies to help them out. They're a very embarassment to the word socialism. The "chinese characteristics" are literally just capitalism...

I hope Taiwan always stays independent. I hope that Tibet gets independence back again.

[rustic tusk]

ha yes, taiwan exists too, there are also other countries that speak it a lot so that also complicates things, but i like to assume the worst situation

[frank creek]

huh, didn't know there were other countries speaking chinese! I would've thought the countries bordering the PRC had their own languages?

like, a long time ago before large amounts of complicated written paperwork were being sent around from a central government (say mediaeval times) languages tended to blend into each other... but I assume that since then China has grown southwards (if I remember correctly, they grew southwards early in the PRC's history), so therefore that blended language region has been gobbled up, so therefore bordering nations wouldn't've spoken it

Though, the area around vladivostok and such was part of China until Japan invaded and then the USSR took it... so I guess that might be an area that has a large number of chinese speakers?

hmmm, another thing for me to research- chinese languages distribution... I'm meant to sleep early to help my dad tomorrow, but a little bit of wikipedia can't hurt!

Singapore speaks chinese? wow, well you learn something new every day!!

[frank creek]

This assumption might be right, the maps of chinese dialect usage seem to end at the current borders, or even earlier in newer territories towards the west. Though, this could also be a lack of research done on the other side of the borders, or some other reason

[blazing crystal]

I am so gald that you guys are interested in this project!

[blazing crystal]

Actually i live in the north of china,i use VPN to change my location to other areas such as America,so discord will think i live in American

[blazing crystal]

ALSO,i don't wanna talk politics here.
BUT remember,Taiwan is NOT a country!
Taiwan has belonged to China since ancient times. History is recorded! And Tibet too!

I don't know what western media is promoting China like this! I am very proud that I am Chinese and our country always insists that people come first! I know what my life is like!

Well,if you two guys@frank creek @rustic tusk insist taiwan is a country and being so indiscriminate, I'm sorry.I won't speak to you again!

[rustic tusk]

at this moment i think it would be a good idea to not develop more that stuff
By the way, i could easily be considered with positive view of china, eh anyway, it is more productive to continue discussing about the map than politics

[blazing crystal]

“Considered”?

Great,great....great

😑

Well at least this conversation has given me a new understanding of you

You've been talking the people from a country you despise. Great