Outdated: See Foundry VTT System - Foundry VTT sheets

[viscid schooner]

So I hear you're interested in playing Draw Steel in Foundry VTT.

Well lucky for you, I've built just the tool for you!
(I lost a lot of resolution in my videos due to my large monitor size oops, promise the sheets don't look that washed out lol )

Roll for Power!

Select any banes or edges, auto-select (or change manually) your ability modifier, and the sheet does the rest for you. In the chat, the roll will format in bold the tier you achieved, taking into account double banes and edges, and will notify you clearly when you have rolled a critical!

Compatible with most modules, incl Dice So Nice!

Watching your d10s fly across the screen to smash your enemies has NEVER been so easy (okay, it's about as easy as it is in Foundry normally i.e. quite easy)

Track Stamina, Heroic Resources, Recoveries

Damage and Healing is tracked and automated for you. At a click of a button you can spend a recovery, get temp stamina, gain heroic resources. Your health bar changes colour when damaged to represent your winded or dying states.

How to Install:

See this message below for the instructions and my Google drive link
#1279333525174358036 message

NOTE:

This only supports Foundry Version 11, but fixing this is super easy.
It doesn't support the latest update to 12 as the custom system builder I am using doesn't support it yet. Reverting back to 11 (or upgrading to) is super easy, but if you need help I can assist.

Adding abilites is super easy using drag and drop. Your players can make sheets and add their own abilities easily!

Damage is added, stamina is recovered, all at the click of a button!

[loud heart]

Looks extremely rad!
Can you please send me the link to it in DMs?☺️

[glossy rapids]

Oh yeah this is great

I’ll get this set up methinks

Pls DM me the link:)

[viscid schooner]

Will do to both of you! I’ll be back at my computer in an hour or so and once I’ve heard confirmation it works for you I’ll chuck the link here for any future people to use!

[glossy rapids]

Have you implemented the conditions out of curiosity? Not necessarily as like actual effects but as status markers?

[loud heart]

Other question - by any chance have you implemented anything to control turn order for enemies and player? Like, who has already made his turn and who has not?

[pastel notch]

Can you DM me too, I was in process of doing my own setup through Foundry, but would save time if someone else has done it

[crisp leaf]

could i get a DM please

[viscid schooner]

I used an optional module called “Combat Tracker” or something. I’ll find it and add it to the optional options list in my instructions.

It wasn’t perfect, and you may find a better way, but the way I ran it with my players was I created 3 sub groups: Turn Taken, Hero’s, and Monsters. Then when someone took their turn I moved them from “hero’s” group to the “turn taken” group (shows for everyone in the combat tracker)

At the end of the round I clicked a button and it summoned all the hero’s and monsters back into their groups! Was a bit finicky at first but it worked for what I needed!

[viscid schooner]

I did, but using another module. I can’t say it was the best implementation though. You can install that module and then create your own status effects to apply to tokens, but sometimes it freaked out for me. Hopefully you can find some use in it though, I’m sure there are other modules one could use!

[glossy rapids]

Which module?

Oh and also what do the enemy sheets look like out of curiosity? Or do they use the same sheet as PCs?

[viscid schooner]

They’re different, I’ll drop an example in a second 🙂

[glossy rapids]

Awesome!

Looking forward to trying this, if I could migrate my playtest game from Owlbear to this it’d be fantastic

[viscid schooner]

@glossy rapids This is what the monster sheet looks like (note that a critical trumps a double bane! 😄 )

[glossy rapids]

Neato!

[viscid schooner]

Also, if you set your rolls to GM Roll in the bottom right corner it rolls the abilities privately, in case you don't want to share the ability with your players

Same with the players

[loud heart]

As I can see you make the roll with double bane, but the result in chat is Tier 3 - is that an error?🤨

[pastel notch]

I am in the process of getting the Fall of blackbottom maps working in foundry.

[viscid schooner]

It was a critical! 😄

Critical trumps double bane, actually got a perfect example of it working haha

[viscid schooner]

Nice! I would share my set up of that too but I'm unsure about the license when it comes to the art etc, so sticking to the safe side and not sharing

[viscid schooner]

Check you DMs

[loud heart]

Damn, completely forgot about that 😅🫠
My bad, thanks for reminding me about that 🙏🏻

[viscid schooner]

Would anyone like to try install it for me and see if there are any issues? I have one other person trying atm, but on version 12 which may not work. DM if you are available

[crisp leaf]

i'll try revert my foundry version and then let you know if i can give it at ry

[viscid schooner]

I'll dm you the google drive link

[crisp leaf]

tyty

oh, i didn't evever even update to version 12 so im already ready on 11 lol

[viscid schooner]

Okay amazing stuff, @crisp leaf helped me test it and it WORKS! yay. I will update the pinned message up the top with a google drive link and make a short unlisted youtube video on how to install tomorrow

[polar brook]

Some module suggestions to use for folks! That I’ve found really helpful for my game.

Bar Brawl - Lets players have 3 easily modifiable bars on their tokens. I have it set up so they can track Stamina, Recoveries and Heroic Resources without opening their character sheet!

Challenge Tracker - Gives a clock with inner and outer wheel clock that I can use to track success and failures for montages. Can be hidden from or revealed to the players.

Condition Lab & Triggler - I've used it to set up a custom set of conditions with custom icons. Each condition can include a link, I've got a journal with the text for each of the conditions.

Lancer Initiative Gives you an easy way to track when your players have acted in each round. Basically handles everything except the initial d10 roll perfectly

Party Resources Gives you a customizable set of resources at the top of the screen, I used it for Villain Points, Hope, Victories and the link. Each can be hidden of revealed to players.

[glossy rapids]

Oh awesome, thanks

Do you know if Lancer Initiative plays nice with Combat Carousel?

[polar brook]

Sorry, but I have no idea. My guess would be possibly not, but I’ve not tested it.

I do know it didn’t play nicely with a second module I was trying to handle initiative groups.

[glossy rapids]

Fair enough I’ll have to give it a test

AFAIK combat carousel is pretty much only visual so maybe it’ll work better

[balmy owl]

In my version, the portraits appeared but it doesn't understand what it means for a character to have activated and I can't imagine how it would respond to bosses with extra activations.

[livid ravine]

Hello! Could I have a link please 🙂

[crisp leaf]

they're asleep rn, i believe.

[jovial pond]

Hello, I would like to have a link too please (after you get your beauty sleep, of course)

[gritty hatch]

Please DM me a link, and thank you for putting this together!

[agile spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/tinytim-tim-poor-child-boy-gif-7331148

Please Sir can I have some more link?

[viscid schooner]

Hahaha yep! Putting the finishing touches on my install instructions. Expect a link very shortly!!

Is anyone around right now to test it out? There was a small bug last night with Prinner and I don't want to publish if it's still there

It should take less than 5 minutes to install, assuming you have Foundry Version 11 already and don't need to change that (noting that version 12 doesn't yet work with custom system builder)

[merry garden]

When you have the time, I'd appreciate the link. I'm not near my computer at the moment so I can't help you with the testing. Sorry

[viscid schooner]

Okay so here is a link to the drive with install instructions and the JSON files you need. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fK_VTYvDepdYxJfEPu9RyAE-90u9UcFk?usp=sharing

(if the stamina bar down the bottom looks more like the following, please DM me and I will show you how to fix it)

See above @loud heart @glossy rapids @pastel notch @crisp leaf @livid ravine @jovial pond @gritty hatch @agile spruce @merry garden

Feel free to jump in my DMs if you have any questions or need help on the install 🙂
Hopefully the install instructions are clear enough but I may have missed something

[viscid schooner]

On Bar brawl, you can reference the values in the sheets as attributeBar.stamina_current etc

(I haven't checked it's compatible but I think it should work!)

[rocky silo]

Thank you so much! I really wanted to try this out with my group and your hard work has allowed that to happen!

[viscid schooner]

Glad I could help! (assuming it works like it should )

[rocky silo]

Going to install it tomorrow and report back if there are any issues!

[dusk idol]

worked like a charm @viscid schooner !

idk if this is within your capabilities to do so but do u know if compendiums will be added at any point?

[viscid schooner]

I was thinking of that!

I think defs could do it

[dusk idol]

ive followed wayyyy too many playtest games to know how much of a pain data entry is and how annoying it can be to change abilities from version to version though

so i understand if ur hesistant

[viscid schooner]

I was thinking of making a compendium of the pregens

Because that will be the most useful and the least pain to make (actually, I’d go as far as to say fun!)

[dusk idol]

fair enough!

yeah right now i think the only thing keeping me from running DS on foundry is the lack of auto-fill abilities in foundry

so if that is implemented it would be a no brainer for me

[viscid schooner]

Done and done, I’ll get working 🤓

[dusk idol]

my savior!

[viscid schooner]

I’ll also pre make all the monsters, that’ll be easy enough for people to have those pre-filled in

[dusk idol]

monsters seems like it might be more work than hero abilities

idk

[crisp leaf]

Just woke up, I'll have a try with this in a mo

[jovial pond]

Thank you! This is some great stuff.

[glossy rapids]

Is there a way to add a second kit entry for Tacticians?

[viscid schooner]

Ah yeah I was thinking about that whilst making it, but it was going to add too much complication that might break it all. So I decided not to since most of the second kit is just adding abilities to the first kit (so nothing actually new) and the second kit’s signature should just be fine to drag into the sheet

Anything extra you could write in the features section I thought?

[glossy rapids]

hmm am experiencing a bug with the stamina bar, it's no longer applying damage or healing. The message in chat pops up but the bar doesn't adjust on the sheet.

[viscid schooner]

Grrr that’s the bug we were seeing last night

There is a simple workaround, Ill DM you to see if it fixes it

[glossy rapids]

👍

[glossy rapids]

PSA: in case anyone wants to set up drag ruler with this implementation, you want to point it to actor.system.props.speed

[viscid schooner]

Indeed most of the fillable boxes in the sheet should be referenced in a similar way! the name of the box may not be obvious though so if anyone wants to reference something in a sheet ask and I'll tell you what sheet calls it

[viscid schooner]

I just realised thanks to @glossy rapids that I left in some code in the enemy sheet from when I had a VP counter. I removed that counter as it was far too finicky to work for public release but forgot to change the code in one place in the enemy stat block. This means it won’t roll dice for enemies atm

Super easy fix for me, but requires an update to the enemy sheet for anyone who’s installed recently. I’ll publish the update in the morning, it shouldn’t delete anything you’ve made so far (especially if the update only concerns the enemy sheet)

[steel snow]

Super cool work! I'm working on a proper system implementation which will be v12+

[dusk idol]

👀 looking forward to it!

[stark nest]

First let me say that this whole setup has been a huge help and I really appreciate you sharing it.

I'm also experiencing this issue. What was the fix?

[stark nest]

Also interested in the fix for the enemy stat blocks. 👀

[viscid schooner]

If you hit the reload icon in the top right it should fix the sheet. It shouldnt (according to the system’s devs) clear your sheet at all but when Ccyan did it it cleared the sheet

So I’d duplicate it beforehand in case

Duplicating may also fix it in the duplicate sheet

(But first thing to try actually would be a close the app and reopen)

[stark nest]

I did close the app and re-open, and also tried creating a duplicate sheet earlier and it didn't actually fix it.

I found the issue was the inconsistency in the Token and the Actor. If I open the actor from the Actors tab, everything works fine. If I double click on the token, it brings up the sheet but the changes don't affect the actor, even if the actor is linked.

[viscid schooner]

I shall try reproduce on my machine

[stark nest]

I can also take some screenshots of steps to reproduce.

Last screenshot below is an example of the action being taken and it not taking effect.

[viscid schooner]

Does it update in the actor sheet when you attempt to modify the token sheet?

[stark nest]

Doesn't seem to do either.

(I clicked -10 HP on the token sheet with the actor sheet up side-by-side.)

[viscid schooner]

I have some ideas on why this is the case, I’ll get back to you shortly

[viscid schooner]

Okay I was able to reproduce your problem AND I think I have a solution

[viscid schooner]

Let me know if this fixed the issue for you (note that when you update the prototype token from the actor sheet you will need to delete and redrop the token onto the field for it to guarantee take affect)

[stark nest]

I could've sworn I did this earlier, but clearly I didn't. Thanks for your help. ❤️

[viscid schooner]

PHEW! I was scared it was truely broken

[stark nest]

Nope, I'm just a silly goose.

[viscid schooner]

I've updated the install instructions to specify that must be done

Now to fix this silly bug with the monsters dice

Oml was so easy to fix lol

[stark nest]

Oh, sick. Glad it wasn't a tough issue to resolve. 😄

[viscid schooner]

Just set the "resource current" in the _enemy sheet (in the hidden attributes tab, see video) to some huge number. This is effectiely telling the sheet that you have 10000 VP so your abilities are all valid lol.

Any number greater than the VP cost of your ability will do, I just thought overkill was funny 🫣

[stark nest]

Can confirm, that worked.

[viscid schooner]

This will not update at all btw (as in you don't have to worry about changing it again later), your "VP" according to all enemies from now on is 10000. I used to have VP tracked in another sheet and that's what that attribute was doing (getting the director's current VP) but I decided to simplify because it was honeslty more work for the director than just recording it yourself however you like

I will update the templates in the google drive

[stark nest]

FWIW, if people are looking to publicly track and keep up with VP, I've been using the Party Resources module.

Works well for Hope/Hero Tokens and Victories as well.

[viscid schooner]

Great idea!

@glossy rapids see fixes above for both the stamina bar bug and the enemy dice

[glossy rapids]

🫡

[viscid schooner]

Foundry VTT [UPDATED WITH BUG FIXES] - Heros, Monsters, Abilities oh my!

Foundry VTT [UPDATED WITH BUG FIXES see chat] - Heros, Monsters, Abilities oh my!

PSA: Future downloads will not have this bug, but if you already downloaded you can follow the steps above in the two videos to fix

[stark nest]

@viscid schooner is there a way to print non-rolled abilities into chat?

A good example is "Keeper of Order." There isn't a roll associated (no power table options), but the effect is relevant and I can see people wanting to print it to chat when they use it.

[viscid schooner]

There is! Give me a second to remind myself how lol

[viscid schooner]

Would something like this work for you?

[stark nest]

Yup.

[viscid schooner]

Okay so I'm going to update the googledrive with this new sheet that has buttons to print features to the chat

For you however, to make sure it doesn't delete anything you've already made, I'll DM you how to make the changes

[low nexus]

Hello! Some doubts..
1 . How add the infos from kit signature? like vine ward?
2. How add kit equipment?

Many thanks

[viscid schooner]

For 2: By 'equipment' do you mean a signature ability? or do you mean like 'sword and shield'

[viscid schooner]

Updating the sheet shouldn't delete any data, but just to be safe!

[low nexus]

kit nature calling equipment a crown of stone

[viscid schooner]

I'll admit it's not the best, but there are two ways of solving it.
1: you can type into the "Ward" section the title of your ward (e.g. Vine Ward) and then in the features tab you can fill in the details of the ward.
2: you can add an ability to your sheet and select the source as "kit". This should appear in the kit tab now (as well as the abilites tab). You can then fill in the effect as the ability, and add <br> in the text box where you want to have a new line

You may have to follow these instructions again to get it to appear in the Kit tab:

[low nexus]

great! Many thanks

[viscid schooner]

Out of curiosity, which option do you prefer? (for future reference on any updates I make)

[low nexus]

2, I guess

[viscid schooner]

How does this look for you?

[low nexus]

Great! How make it to appear in the Kit tab?

[viscid schooner]

With some feedback from Thanix I changed how non-power roll abilites look and made them able to be sent to the chat easily

You will need to update the sheet with the new code, I'll DM you the new sheet to import?

[low nexus]

this is nice

[low nexus]

yes, you can!

[fading solstice]

Thanks a lot for making this, and the detailed instructions. Working great so far!

[tulip fern]

Thanks for putting this together! Hopefully as Draw Steel gains some traction and as we get closer to the full release, we'll see an actual Foundry System developed by people much smarter than myself, but this is great in the short term!

One small note for those like myself who are coding illiterate, or have fully developed games in v12, you might try linking to this video in the google doc for some help with downgrading the system without potentially messing up their current downloaded modules or worlds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B74ZAp3xx3o

[viscid schooner]

Nice good idea, I shall add it in 🙂

[loud heart]

Hi there, @viscid schooner !
Could you let me know whether you're familiar with using a module like Automated Animations in CSB?
I've been trying to figure it out myself, but so far I haven't had any luck.
Perhaps you might be able to tell me how it could be set up/used to link animations to attack/ability rolls made via Power Roll in the ability sheet?

[viscid schooner]

I’ll dm you to try work it out together

[loud heart]

Thank you for being so amazing, I appreciate it so much.

[fading solstice]

I'm trying to set up Bar Brawl with stamina_temp and resource_current, but the bars don't show up. I think it's because their max value is Infinity, because stamina_current and presence_score both worked fine.

It makes sense for the core sheet to not set a max for these. Is there any way to make Bar Brawl just show the number, maybe by setting the same value as the max just for display?

[viscid schooner]

What attribute did you select out of curiosity?

(As in, the actual name you’re calling in the bar settings)

[viscid schooner]

But yes, if the reason is the max value is infinity there is a way to solve this. I’ll dm you

[pastel notch]

I have created Export from Foundry of Conditions Journal Entries and Condition Lab condition mapping. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nmzSThl4V8N-wLsZw9DInkeVK_c5VS58?usp=sharing

[viscid schooner]

Yoink!

[steel snow]

If anyone is interested in helping develop a full system implementation, I've now got a public repository. This is NOT ready for general use and consumption, there's still a lot of work to do

[fading solstice]

Would you prefer any requests to be posted as an Issue on that repo? Or would that be for a later stage, after some more development has happened?

[steel snow]

Issues work

[pastel notch]

@viscid schooner Do you if there is a way to have two kits as per Tactician class?

[viscid schooner]

Since a second kit only actually adds a new signature ability (because all the other bonuses don't stack, you just take the best) all you need to do is drag and drop in an extra ability for your kit

If you get an ability that is text and not a roll (say you take a caster kit), you can still add an ability and just don't fill in the tiers. If the tiers are not filled in in the ability, the text in "Effect" is printed to the chat without a roll

Examples here 🙂

[viscid schooner]

Note that when you drag and drop it into your sheet, if the ability has it's source set to anything other than "kit" it will appear in the All Abilites tab. There you can edit it and change the source to "Kit" to make it appear in the Kit tab of your sheet

[viscid schooner]

Also note, if you want to add a new line in the text field of the Effect tab for any ability, you can just use <br> to add a break like so

[glossy rapids]

hi sorry, what do I have to do to get this working?

[eager lily]

All this is great! I made a little hacked 5e version in foundry with custom classes and abilities that does all the power rolls and stuff and displays each ability. A lot of freaking work

[viscid schooner]

The latest templates in the Google drive now do this. Duplicate or backup your world in the foundry setup page (to make sure you don’t lose data) and then import the sheets again as normal and they should overwrite the old ones.

You will need to go through the steps again to tick the boxes in the items containers (in the install instructions if you’ve forgotten) to make your abilities show again (don’t worry, they’re only hidden not deleted)

If for whatever reason this doesn’t work for you I’ll send you the JSON for just the hero sheet template, which is how others have updated and it worked

[viscid schooner]

That’s where I started initially and quickly gave up hahaha

Oh yeah, I guess PSA for everyone that the sheets are updated with some extra features 🙂 (I would always backup your world before any updates)

Most others have updated and it’s working awesome, so if you run into any trouble I very likely already have helped someone else fix it

I also got Automated Animatioms working really easy now with @loud heart but that requires a very small change. DM me if you want that macro

[viscid schooner]

Foundry VTT [UPDATED ROLL MESSAGES] - Heros, Monsters, Abilities oh my!

[sullen elk]

While I have no skills in developing, I'm excitedly watching this. Thank you very much

[viscid schooner]

UPDATE: if you’d like a player (or yourself) to be able to add your abilities to the hot bar as a macro (as in, it rolls the dice, not just “display” the ability), I’ve added instructions at the bottom of the Install Instructions doc in the Google drive

Doesn’t require any installs or edits, just is a different process to other systems to create hotbar auto-ability rollers

[eager lily]

I want it 🙂

[viscid schooner]

Will send very shortly 🤓

[trim island]

@viscid schooner Do you have a video on downgrading and upgrading the version?
Thanks for doing all these by the way 🙂

[viscid schooner]

Sent it to you in a DM just now

[viscid schooner]

@trim island does this help?

[viscid schooner]

If you need more help let me know, I can show you how

[trim island]

Okay thanks, I will look into it first.

[viscid schooner]

Okay actually that video shows how to download a prototype I think, let me source you a different one on how to downgrade

[viscid schooner]

I can't really find anything that's short and sweet so I'll just make some instructions on how to downgrade myself haha

[viscid schooner]

Okay added a link in the install instructions, which links to this doc: How to change versions

[trim island]

Thanks for taking the time to do this!

[glossy rapids]

There is apparently an issue with the send-to-chat function, at least for the Features. Anything that has a line break in the description will not send to chat.

[viscid schooner]

Thanks for notifying, I’ll try reproduce and publish a fix. Just to be clear, it works normally without a <br>? Have you tried with <pg> and </pg> around the text you want on a new line?

[viscid schooner]

Meant to make that a reply

[glossy rapids]

Yes it works without the line breaks

This is only an issue for the Features

maybe bc they use the normal foundry text editor?

Abilities that require html formatting work fine

[viscid schooner]

Okay that’s very interesting, get my bug squashing hat on 🤓🐛

[viscid schooner]

I can't seem to replicate your issue, it's working for me?

If you put <br> in the text field for a feature and it appears as "<br>" instead of just a new line, try open it and then close it by clicking save

I did notice however that if you use ' in the message at all it doesn't like it, I will fix this now

I'll upload the fixed sheets soon @glossy rapids , but if you want the fix now it's easy. Go to the _hero_sheet template and navigate to the "Features" tab. Then in the dynamic table, click on "{send_to_chat}" and in the roll message box delete the code and paste in the following instead:

Don't forget to click save and then "reload all character sheets" at the top!

[eager lily]

Unfortunately all my other systems use foundry version 12 so I can't switch back to 11 😦

[viscid schooner]

Ah damn 😕 you can have two seperate installs going but that might be annoying to do

[viscid schooner]

Hope you’re able to find another way to play at least!

[rocky silo]

An option for you is to setup a node.js for a v11 install if you're willing to do the work for it. I've got a v10 and v11 install on my pc for a couple of different systems that are not yet on 12

[chrome cypress]

@viscid schooner Hi! I've been wondering about running Draw Steel in foundry before we knew it was called draw steel, I'm so happy to have found your thread! How do I get started? I've never installed a custom module for Foundry, so I think I need a bit of help 😅

[glossy rapids]

if u go to the very top of the thread youll find a link with very easy to follow step-by-step instructions!

[viscid schooner]

#1279333525174358036 message

That link should take you to the correct message 🙂

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1fK_VTYvDepdYxJfEPu9RyAE-90u9UcFk?usp=sharing

[viscid schooner]

Or I could just sent it again haha

DM me with any questions you need help with

[chrome cypress]

Awesome, thank you! I may be back, we'll see how far I get on my own lmao

[chrome cypress]

^^

[chrome cypress]

Looks like I got it all setup. Your instruction doc is very helpful, thank you!

[glossy rapids]

Would there be any way to have the chat card display the keywords of the ability?

[trim island]

@viscid schooner Can you pin the first post as well as the post with download link for easy access?

[viscid schooner]

Thanks!

[viscid schooner]

DMed

[glossy rapids]

🫡

[agile spruce]

Legality Question: Can we share a monster compendium ?

Like if I create all the monsters sheets could I sahre them with other patrons/backers ?

[livid ravine]

I don’t know the exact answer, but if what you’re trying to share is covered by the license I think you can

[viscid schooner]

As long as it contains no art, yes

I reached out for permission to use the tokens and they said no

[dusk idol]

theres been no hero ability compendium made yet right?

[viscid schooner]

Not yet, when I have the time I will try to get that done but if someone beats me to it I will just pin your compendiums so everyone can benefit

You’re welcome to contribute!

[agile spruce]

It would be nice to have a place where we could track the ones we made. This way we could all contribute and wouldn't be repeating work

[viscid schooner]

Why don’t I make a drive and we can all add to it there, then every so often ill go through and collate all the templates into a single download

The monsters will take hardly any time to make

[viscid schooner]

Okay you can request access from me and I'll let you be able to modify this folder:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1t3NWqNZ7ObtaOb_FhssW0G57haj6-Sk3?usp=sharing

(don't want everyone and their dog able to delete/add random files)

[glossy rapids]

@grim briar if you’re using foundry you can make use of this

[grim briar]

Oh wow, thanks for letting me know! I am at work right now but I will definitely have to check this out when I get some time

@viscid schooner You've put quite a bit of work on this. Thanks so much for sharing!

[stark nest]

Has anything been contributed here? It looks empty to me, but not sure if that's related to viewing permissions or not.

[viscid schooner]

No one has contributed yet haha

I was going to next weekend start making some things, when I’ve finally got the time 🤓

[steel snow]

Hopefully I'll have a proper system out by the end of the month

where some ability creation can happen in a more permanent fashion

[viscid schooner]

Do you have a prototype you could demonstrate? Would love to see how it’s looking!

[steel snow]

UX is unfortunately coming last

lots of data work first

my friend who does UX stuff has been on vacation the past two weeks but he'll be helping me this week I think

[viscid schooner]

Awesome

[grim briar]

Damn that's awesome

I'm planning to run a session for my group in two weeks. The current tools have already been pretty useful. I was able to add everyone's character sheets fairly easily!

[viscid schooner]

PSA: I did find a bug that can occur if your character's name contains a quote mark in it and you attempt to roll in some circumstances. I have fixed and uploaded the new sheets to the drive.

If you download and "import sheets" you will need to then quickly repeat the steps in the install instructions re: make sure the "_ability_template" box is ticked in the item container in the All Abilites and Kit tabs in the _hero_sheet

and in the _enemy sheet you'll need to tick the box again for the _monster_abilty and _monster_resistance templates

I wish I could fix this, but it's a bug with custom-system-builder that it always unticks these when you import sheets again

[stark nest]

No quotes in names allowed, got it boss. 🫡

[viscid schooner]

That is the simple solution haha!

[agile spruce]

I've moved places and don't have internet connection yet 😕 When I do I'll tackle the goblins

[severe axle]

I have a module created which has all of the monsters set up, with basic name-stamped tokens (shown). I could probably write up a set of installation instructions for it. It has everything ready for import, including your sheet/item templates all ready to go via drag and drop importing. I plan to expand on it when I have time, adding the pregen characters and stuff as I go.

[viscid schooner]

Nice! Just checking is this using the latest sheets with the bug fixes and the print to chat functions?

[severe axle]

Pretty sure I'm up to date, actually thing I wanted to mention which I changed on my end was setting the Size field to text instead of Number. But anyone importing this way would have that change already done.

[viscid schooner]

Oh yep, that makes sense with the new backer packet rules for size

Importing you’d just need to make sure you’re referencing the same templates. I’ll fix that size field tonight and then as long as your template sheets are the same as the current ones in the drive it should work beautifully!

[severe axle]

The module also includes the templates so as long as you import them from the compendium in the correct order everything works perfectly. You just drag/drop from compendium to import Macros, then Ability Sheet Templates, then Ability Templates, then Creature/PC Sheet Templates, then Creatures and it all functions. I'm not sure how much the specific order matters but I know I got a bunch of errors when I was initially testing (imported creatures without ability sheet templates) so figured I know this order works 100%. 😂

[viscid schooner]

Awesome stuff

What’s the best way for you to share the compendium?

[severe axle]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t3aGo6Jh7NSpBL8T6xKNHV8EA3f8vKwn/view?usp=drive_link This links to the zip with the module in it. You want to go to Appdata\Local\FoundryVTT\Data\modules (%appdata% then up to Local) and unzip it inside.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MhymBgQwhBZuvUyYzJxkSdg9aL-PpV3s/view?usp=drive_link This links to the zip with the tokens inside, only way I could find to get the tokens to work was to put them in the exact same spot. So you want to navigate back out to AppData\Local\FoundryVTT\Data and make a new folder "custom content" if you don't already have one, then drop the "Draw Steel" folder from inside the token zip in there and the creatures should all link up to their tokens. AppData\Local\FoundryVTT\Data\custom content\Draw Steel should look like this (i don't know if it's case sensitive lmao)

To get the module to work you turn it on in your Custom System Builder world like you would any module (Settings, Manage Modules). Then in your Compendium you'll have a bunch of folders. Open Macros compendium and your Macros folder (bottom left) then drag "Sheet Macros" from the compendium into your Macros folder. After that you want to open Abilities compendium, drag "_SheetTemplates(DO NOT TOUCH)" into your Items tab, then individually drag the 3 useable templates into your item list. Lastly you open the Creatures compendium, go to your Actors tab, drag the "_SheetTemplates(DO NOT TOUCH)" folder into your actors tab first and then drag the Creatures folder into your actor tab.

Pretty sure that's the step by step.

If anyone goes through this and has problems, something doesn't work, just ping me. I don't think I left anything out but it can be confusing if you've never done this before.

Also might be typos/errors on the creatures I tried my best to check them all over 😂 Always double check the pdf especially if something seems odd.

The original instructions for required modules etc. should still be followed, and recommend reading the whole thing just to understand how the sheets work but you don't need to follow any of the template import directions (or even fix the sheet 🥳).

This doesn't have the ancestry specific VP features listed anywhere, eventually just throw those in a journal entry but for now the pdf is always there. 😁

[severe axle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HE8OmsB3WstOmarqUrWeTkwVrmDYxUTm8Tz4OXFZYmU/edit?usp=sharing instructions now with too many pictures that I maybe should've put some arrows on. in case people aren't as familiar with setting things up and don't know where to click/look.

[severe axle]

Does anyone have a module they use to track what squads creatures are in? I was using "Token Color Marker" but it doesn't seem to work with CSB.

[severe axle]

At the very bottom of the document I've started a list of optional recommended modules to help track certain parts of the game. I've included instructions and a json for importing a condition list through Combat Utility Belt to replace the default big list that you see when you're adding a condition to a token.

[agile spruce]

I use condition lab and have extra conditions with just a colour square to identify different squads

I switched from CUB because I think it is deprecated

[severe axle]

I'll take a look later when I have some time to tinker, thanks! There's a Token Faction (forget what its really called) module I was looking at that colors the square behind the token which was kinda neat, full color picker. A little intrusive depending on what people like tho

[severe axle]

added a note about Condition Lab, the json seems to import fine since it's mostly the same module. i'll double check everything works and fix up the settings instructions later

[viscid schooner]

CUB also breaks Automated Animations, so I would not recommend

[tepid iron]

@viscid schooner This is awesome stuff! Thank you so much for setting this up and the excellent instructions. Just set up my forge server and looking forward to running my first game, which would not have been possible without you. Many kudos! If I work out how to export the characters and monsters that I create I would be happy to share.

[tepid iron]

Hey @severe axle, thank you so much for your detailed instructions. I am struggling to make this work in the forge. I have uploaded the file to my assets/modules folder, but when I try to install the module.json, it tells me that "the backerkit.... module does not provide a download URL that can be installed". Sorry if this is a stupid question or if I am missing something obvious. Any help would be appreciated.

[agile spruce]

For anyone who wants to use V12 there's a workaround I found.
Go to https://gitlab.com/custom-system-builder/custom-system-builder and install the beta version. Then if you want to use @severe axle 's module edit the module.json and replace all "custom-system-builder" instances to "custom-system-builder-beta" and version from 11 to 12.
Most things will work fine but DO NOT TRY TO EDIT/OPEN THE ABILITIES from the imported actors.
You can roll directly from the sheet and that will work fine but if you try to open it the ability will disappear.

[severe axle]

The error you're getting is for trying to install a module through its manifest, which is how you install modules through the addon browser but I don't have it setup to do that (idk how). You need to do everything manually.

Make sure you unzipped everything inside their respective folders, if thats not the problem I may need more info on what you did to understand the problem.

[tepid iron]

Hi Telkanis, I have finally got it to work in the forge! There is an excellent instruction video on how to install the files in the forge, which you might point to in the instructions: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhLO-4nsmAE&ab_channel=DungeonMasterJosh). Question: does your excellent compendium include the pregen characters as shown in the instructions? I cannot find them, but perhaps I am missing something. Thank you again for going through the immense effort of importing all the creatures. You have made my life sooo much easier. All the best from NZ!

[severe axle]

Thanks for the video! No pregens yet I was starting to work on them so the folder is visible in the screenshot but not added to the module yet.

[tulip fern]

I might have found a possible bug, not sure if it's something I've inadvertently messed with when reimporting sheets and the templates to my current world. When I click "Roll" from the All Abilities Tab, it does not add the characteristic to the roll. But if I click on the ability itself and roll from that window, then it adds the characteristic. I could try a fresh world and setup, but I've got all the player characters formatted and maps created for tonight's game, so I'd rather avoid that if possible. 😅 If it's not an easy fix, I'll just make sure to tell my players to roll from the ability window instead of from the All Abilities tab.

[severe axle]

Is this just importing the sheets via Haezan's original instructions or using my compendium module?

[tulip fern]

I'm not sure, I imported your compendium module for the prebuilt bestiary, but must have messed up something, so ended up reimporting Haezan's from the google drive because I kept getting the "item template has been deleted" error messages. I probably just need to reinstall and start over. Tonight's just Bay of Blackbottom to playtest it with my players before the survey deadline, so not a huge deal. I don't want to risk getting the "item template has been deleted" messages on the current characters by reimporting if that's a risk, it's doing that on the characters I built before reimporting. 🤷‍♂️

[severe axle]

Did you import creatures before abilities? Or the sheets before the templates, either way likely to result in that error. I'm not sure if there's an easy fix for your specific issue on the mostly working sheets, seems odd that the attributes wouldn't be getting added not an area I know much about.

[tulip fern]

Not sure what order I imported or copied things at this point, probably user error on my part. Thanks for all the work you've both put into this so far, it's meant we could stick with Foundry and I didn't have a relearn and reteach Roll20 in addition to the whole new game!

[severe axle]

That's the goal! I've been working on setting up the pregens and adventure maps, figure I can draw the walls and drop tokens based on the reference maps w/ instructions on how to import the map art at the right size and grid scale for everything to match up since we can't include the art.

[keen sparrow]

Quick question, I don't see a field on the character sheet for Weight, where can I find that?

[dusk idol]

thats a bug, weight isnt in the game

[keen sparrow]

ah, that's just on the pregen sheet for no reason then?

[severe axle]

yep hasn't been removed from them yet

[viscid schooner]

I think the pregens also have the old abilities from the Patreon packet too (haven’t been updated with the new backer packet) so i’d double check that too

[keen sparrow]

Thanks for the heads up!

[tulip fern]

It was something to do with the sheet macros apparently, I just dragged the ones from the compendium into my macro folder, and that fixed it!

[agile spruce]

Also got a bunch of those messages, I thought it was because of v12

[chrome cypress]

I'm new to Foundry, what is a compendium in this context?

also I think I found a mistake somewhere

This is the PDF character sheet

and this is Foundry

Is it a mistake on the sheet? Or the module? lol

[severe axle]

A mistake on the sheet the rule packet has Perform under Interpersonal, it's a known issue. A compendium is essentially a data pack to allow you to load and import objects (actors, items, sheets, etc.) into your world. Basically I can create a bunch of things in one world, add them to a compendium, then share it so others can quickly and easily load stuff into their worlds.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HE8OmsB3WstOmarqUrWeTkwVrmDYxUTm8Tz4OXFZYmU/edit This link has instructions on how to download and install the one I made that has all of the creatures ready to use.

Probably update it by the end of the week with pregens, drag-and-drop class abilities, and at least the inn from FoB setup. I've got most of the class abilities in already just toying with some icon ideas (nothing fancy, color background + letter type stuff) to help people understand their options better at-a-glance.

[chrome cypress]

Might wait for that one then. Keep us updated! (pls)

[severe axle]

Updating should be fairly painless, and a fresh world would be a clean slate to work on if you were worried but wanted to test/look at stuff now.

[split bane]

woah many thanks for your hard work!

[grim briar]

Has anyone found an easy way to color code different minion squads in foundry? I know you can tint tokens, but one of our players is color blind so this is not ideal. I was looking for some sort of module where you can maybe even add a color ring or something. That way I could at least select colors that are color blind safe

[severe axle]

There is a module called Token Factions which adds color in the square behind the token, you can choose w.e colors you want. Alternatively, I made some shape+color icons for Condition Lab that you can apply like any condition to designate. I tried to use color blind friendly colors, but can't be sure they'll work for everyone.

https://coolors.co/ffbe0b-fb5607-ff006e-8338ec-3a86ff these are the colors I'm using.

Icons.zip can be unzipped and the folder dropped in "\FoundryVTT\Data\custom content\Draw Steel" and the cub json can be imported in Configure Settings -> Condition Lab & Triggler -> Condition Lab -> top right, import. This stuff will be added in the next real update but if you need it now it's here.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hH9pKO2DxllrAwewTxuBxqm5ibs7DYe7/view?usp=sharing & https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Epf0LOKlG38iGo_CZa1o5ar-BzjB6ijS/view?usp=sharing

Not sure I'll have time to get the update out this weekend like I wanted, but 🤞

[severe axle]

If you do this, I recommend in the CL&T settings you tick off "Remove Default Status Effects" and personally I set the effect icon size to Large - 3x3 to make them easier to see. Does anyone know if you can make conditions build in rows instead of columns? I thought that was default but it's going down instead of right and it's bugging me.

[agile spruce]

This!

[grim briar]

Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for

[severe axle]

If you use the colors (icons or for factions) I hope they work for your friend! I also have a colorblind player, so I did a bit of research on colorbind friendly colors and these seemed good for most (and work for him).

The site I linked lets you preview how people of certain colorblindness will see w.e colors you have selected (click the glasses icon at the top). I imagine it can't be perfect but it's a good start.

[grim briar]

I did also find this site which apparently simulates the colorblindness on any given image you upload
https://pilestone.com/pages/color-blindness-simulator-1

I am not sure how reliable it is but it seems like a decent gut-check at least. I uploaded my setup to test the colorblindness my friend has

[severe axle]

Y'know I was thinking of something that does exactly that but hadn't looked for it yet, thank you! Designing some maps so definitely a useful tool.

[severe axle]

Update: Haven't been able to take any time to work on the compendium this week, unlikely I'll get it out this weekend. No real ETA atm, I think I'm close to something I'm happy uploading but really depends on when I get a chance to finish what I was working on.

[trim island]

@steel snow Any luck with the new system?

[steel snow]

Been swamped by other stuff unfortunately

[severe axle]

Anything a non-coder could help with? 😛

[steel snow]

Not really

[severe axle]

👍 Figured but also figured I'd offer.

[agile spruce]

Anything a bad coder can help with? 😂

[steel snow]

https://github.com/MetaMorphic-Digital/draw-steel

[steel snow]

And today's post is a great example of why I'm also not prioritizing the system, way too much is in flux design wise

[agile spruce]

When the frontend team decides to add new features mid production

[gaunt tinsel]

Was there an answer to your question? I would love to help a friend build pregen character sheets on my server. I am noticing item ids get lost on import to her foundry

[severe axle]

Would love to help if I can (also still learning!), are you using my compendium module or just Haezan's original work? Would also love a clearer idea of what the problem is if possible. If I understand correctly you're trying to make characters on one server and then export them into another but are losing the abilities in the process?

[gaunt tinsel]

Actually both. I tried your compendium on V12 works just like you said. Only issue was editing an Ability causes it to disappear. Which was fine I was just playing around.

I had a friend who wanted to run the Patreon adventure so I helped her set Foundry V11 with Custom System Builder (non-beta). She is hand typing all of the Pregen Characters in. I offered to help but when she imported she got warnings and can’t edit an ability without them self deleting.

I was wondering if I exported or she imported wrong.

We used the standard Foundry Import/Export (right clicking on actor).

Thank you for your help btw.

[viscid schooner]

Couple things to try:

• In the character sheet click the “reload” icon in the top right
• in the template hero sheet make sure the containers have the correct item filters ticked (as per the instructions doc, if you’ve forgotten) and then click “reload all character sheets”

Also, in the ability itself you can try clicking the reload icon there too

[severe axle]

I had no idea this was even a feature haha, I'm toying with it now. I can get a character sheet to import with all useable abilities intact, the only thing I'm breaking atm is a Feature item class I created and changed that section of the sheet for drag&drop character creation (hasn't been pushed live) and those are deleting on me. 🤔 Low on time tonight but I'll poke at it some more soon and see if I can replicate/figure out what your issue is.

[gaunt tinsel]

I will have her give that a shot and report back.

[gaunt tinsel]

Oh interesting. So abilities work. Take your time! I will test haezan suggestions with her probably this weekend.

[severe axle]

@gaunt tinsel Are you making the characters on your V12 version or did you downgrade/backpatch to V11?

(Unrelated) Little behind the scenes oopsie... when I was making the abilities I would just duplicate the last one I was working on, and I guess I started Conduit with Triggered actions and didn't erase that field when swapping them to Actions so the text still shows up on the character sheet. 😂 Gotta go in and set them all to triggers and erase it.

[gaunt tinsel]

I downgraded to v11 (which is also what she is on) to be safe.

[severe axle]

Just wanted to be sure 😁

[gaunt tinsel]

I even made a new world

I just had a thought… is the reason it can’t find the item because it’s not coming from a Compendium? All attacks/feats/etc in DnD/Pathfinder/Blades in the Dark/etc normally come from Compendium.

[severe axle]

It's possible. The way I understand it the items on a character should be independent (it basically makes a copy, so if you edit it it doesn't change the original). For example, none of the creatures have their abilities as items anywhere in the compendium except on their sheets and those don't break so I'm really not sure 😅

It still needs a reference sheet (the _templates) for the system to read, but as long as those are imported it should be fine but I was having that similar issue last night with non-abilities so still trying to figure it out.

tho i guess the monsters themselves are in the compendium so theres that, but none of my pre-made character abilities are or any pregen chars with them it just worked when I imported 🤔

[gaunt tinsel]

I tested one of the monsters and I get this error when I drag it to Actors tab.

[severe axle]

This is just dragging it out of the compendium and not importing it the way you were before?

[gaunt tinsel]

Correct. From compendium directly to the Actor section

[severe axle]

Did you import the item sheet templates as well? (shown here, minus _feature_temp since that doesn't exist yet)

[gaunt tinsel]

I have the ones that came over when I used “Import templates JSON” or do I need ones from the compendium > Abilities?

[severe axle]

I would do everything through the compendium to be 100% sure it's all working as intended yea, the idea was you shouldn't need to import anything the old way anymore and could possibly break stuff as I'm changing how his sheets work occasionally.

Just in case that doesn't work I see now that CSB has updated to 4.0.0, I assume for V12 support but I'm still working with 3.2.5. Not sure how much if any issues that would cause but it's a possibility I can look into if we're still having issues.

If you're on 4.0 that is.

[gaunt tinsel]

This worked for the compendium monsters!

[severe axle]

😁 Glad to hear it.

[gaunt tinsel]

If I click the reload template button in monster sheet … it deletes all the abilities but I think I read above in this thread to not do that

[severe axle]

Not something I have experience with, but certainly sounds like a "just don't push it" angle. 😛 Worst case you just drag it back out from the compendium.

[gaunt tinsel]

@severe axle I built a pregen with your compendium items. Looks like import export worked

[severe axle]

Awesome! I was all ready to push an update with every ability premade for people to drag&drop on character sheets and then the Features I made just don't work on import so that was fun. 😂 Learned a valuable lesson need to test things small scale first, still no idea why it's breaking but I had to walk away from it lol.

[gaunt tinsel]

If you want I can try to take a look?

[severe axle]

I'll see about uploading something later if I get the time, I think I broke all of them last night so probably just going to delete that portion fully and try to find a way to make it work then redo it all if a solution can be found.

Haezan deserves a lot of credit for what he made, Custom System Builder is a nightmare to work with in my experience lmao.

[gaunt tinsel]

Thank you Harlan. It really is a beast!

[agile spruce]

What would be the difference in dragging and clicking import?

[severe axle]

Not sure what this was regarding, but for what I've been talking about this is what I mean. All abilities premade, don't need to drag "Ability Template" onto your character and manually input every line. You'll have to change values based on Kits etc. still but the majority of the work is done. This works great for abilities, no problem there! On Haezan's original sheet, under Features he has a simple double text field where one is the features name and the other is where you put the description, but there's no way to pre-make Features to drop on like the Abilities.
So what I was attempting to do was change that field to accept a new item template I made for Features that is literally just a rich text field but it lets me make them ahead of time and then drop them onto characters instead of manually filling it out every time. Unfortunately these are breaking and deleting when being imported into a World from the Compendium and I can't figure out why.

So instead it would look like this screenshot, where each of those is an individual item and not just a line on the sheet. (I don't have original sheet for reference but I imagine you all know what I'm talking about if you've used them. 😛)

[little sluice]

@viscid schooner and Telkanis, thank you both for amazing work, this is making getting a game up and running 100% easier

[agile spruce]

Thanks for the thorough explanation but it was not what I was asking 😂 I meant about what happened to @gaunt tinsel, when dragging it got errors and the abilities disappeared but not when clicking on import

Just because I have the same issue on v12 but I found a workaround. Just use the sheet for tracking hp, use the abilities directly from the compendium

[gaunt tinsel]

My understanding is that in order to not get errors when dragging monsters from compendium, I needed to first import the templates from the compendium to my world.

I then rebuilt my actor using those templates. If I had my friend also drag and drop the compendium templates to her world, she could import (foundry’s right click on actor, use json) to her world with no errors.

[agile spruce]

Oh I'm not creating characters, just using the monsters

[ornate pine]

Im trying to follow the instructions to set up the custom system, but it seems that the Hero sheet template has nothing in it?

[viscid schooner]

Try reimporting it? That seems like a strange bug

[ornate pine]

Reimported it several times, even deleted and made a new world to try it with, same result

[severe axle]

Can you confirm your Foundry and Custom System Builder versions? I haven't looked into CSB 4.0 yet not sure if anyone else here has imported since the update, not sure if that could be the issue but it has potential. Also as I ask everyone is this from my module or Haezan's imports in the pins? I realize my module isn't pinned or referenced anywhere so unless people scroll through the chat for answers it may not be seen. Also not sure that even matters for w.e your case may be but all the info we can work on is useful. 😁

[upbeat belfry]

Hey so- is there a way to make treasures (like healing potions and such) easily within the module or nah? Rn I'm just using the Ability Template for healing potions

[severe axle]

Not currently, no. There's a space on the sheet for "Notes" where players can keep inventory but nothing to make items you can drop on a sheet.

[ornate pine]

Apparently the issue was that I needed to uninstall and reinstall custom system builder

seems to be working now

[upbeat belfry]

hey so this is a weird issue but whenever I move a token- it freezes and the only way to fix it is to go to another map or to use the ruler to snap it back. Is this a known issue and can it be fixed? The only way I've been able to move tokens is to use the measure tool and space-bar, but otherwise this glitch just hampers clicking and dragging tokens at all (this doesn't happen in other games)

[severe axle]

Not an issue I've encountered at all, sorry.

[elfin pagoda]

Do you have the Drag Ruler module installed? I've had that happen with that in the past

[upbeat belfry]

I do yeah- would it be better if I turned it off for this game?

[elfin pagoda]

Yeah that'd be what's causing your issues

[eager lily]

Anyone have an updated easy way to play DS on the newest foundry? Going back to 11 isn't an option unfortunately

[little sluice]

I'm still using 11. I would hope we could get updates for it pinned? Also wondering if there will be an update since packet 3 has come out yesterday?

[steel snow]

public stuff like this can only be updated when the license does

so it'll have to wait until December

[agile spruce]

Use custom system builder beta, it works on v12

[chrome cypress]

Is this "packet 3" available to backers? Or is it Patreon exclusive?

I can't seem to find it despite backing the project

[polar brook]

Patron exclusive at the moment. Backers get packets once things are more polished

[steel snow]

backers seem to get every-other packet

odd packets have been pretty rough, even have more polish

[chrome cypress]

So, theoretically, I should get packet 4 next?

[steel snow]

Yeah, although it'll probably just be "Backer Packet 2"

[ornate pine]

It seems that the attributes on the Hero sheets don't work, the ones on the monster sheets do, but whenever I roll anything, even if it's just the attribute itself on the hero sheet, it gives +0

[viscid schooner]

Strange, works for everyone else atm

Are you rolling from your character actor in the side bar, or from your token’s sheet

[ornate pine]

Ive tried both ways

Just showing how it looks

Meanwhile monsters work fine

It may be an issue with the actor

I made another player actor as a test and it seems to work

[viscid schooner]

Try clicking the “reload” icon in the top right

Of the actor sheet

[ornate pine]

Didn't seem to work

It's weird, it seems to be inconsistent

Ive created 4 player actors, 2 of them dont work, 2 of them do

[viscid schooner]

That is very strange

Sounds like a bug with custom-system-builder

Have you tried changing the might value again

Like set it to 0 and then set it back to 2, that might re-jig it?

[ornate pine]

Yeah, I have

I've also tried reloading the sheet as a monster sheet, and trying it there

No luck

I think it may have something to do with tabbing out or using other tabs within Foundry?

As I was doing that a lot when I made the sheet the first 2 times and it didnt work

otherwise I cant think of anything different I had done

Oh

I found the issue

It's the name apparently?

The apostrophe in the name appears to break it

[viscid schooner]

Ahhh you may have an old version, I must have forgot to upload the bug fix for that lol

[ornate pine]

Ah, is there any way for me to update versions without needing to recreate all of my actors and items?

[viscid schooner]

I believe so

I’ll upload and test when I’m at my computer again

[ornate pine]

No worries, thank you for your help

[viscid schooner]

Which hero_sheet template are you using? I think the one in the google drive currenly is the one with the bug fix already

I stand corrected, it is missing that fix

Oh hilarous, i DID fix it with those sheets but accidently added in another bug. Previsouly it wouldn't even roll if there was an apostrophe. But I went overkill on escaping the quotes. Will upload the fix shortly

[ornate pine]

Thus is the nature of programming

[viscid schooner]

Can I DM you the sheet to test before I upload publicly?

[viscid schooner]

for anyone following along, it's fixed and uploaded to the google drive

[split bane]

hello there friends, what are my options if im sitting at v12? I wanna try being a director for the LATAM community

but otoh im already running a game on v12 jheh

[viscid schooner]

Hey mate, there are a couple of options for you. First, you can install foundry again as a seperate install at the required version (and it won’t overwrite the V12, but still good to back up before you do it anyway!) Second, you can use the forge (I think that’s what it’s called?) to host it online. Third, some people have said the beta version of custom-system-builder for V12 seems to work okay, but I can’t guarantee it’s full compatibility because I haven’t tried it

[split bane]

I do have the forge

how could I host it online?

otherwise im fine with waiting some weeks for v12

[viscid schooner]

I haven’t used it sorry, so I’m not sure how to do it specifically. You could ask in the Foundry discord how to make a V11 world?

[elfin pagoda]

I've had success with v12, I initially was running everything through v11 and couldn't get abilities to work, as soon as I updated to 12 everything worked

[viscid schooner]

Great to hear! Hopefully it works for you then @split bane?

[split bane]

oh nice, i'll try then the pinned mesages

[hallow solstice]

Hi fellow Foundry users, I plan to prep a D.S. one shot online, so first thanks Haezan and your contributors for creating this! Glad to be able to rely on this to play with friends abroad!

_ _
And I was wondering what is the best way to download the latest version of this module? Just download the latest code from GitHub or is there a place with packaged versions maybe I missed?

[viscid schooner]

Hey! Check the pinned comments in this thread for the link to the drive

Install instructions are in there

[viscid schooner]

Let me know how you go!

[hallow solstice]

Thanks! ❤️

[hallow solstice]

Installation went smoothly, thanks for the detailed instructions!

I am now curious about how to configure animations on abilities or Bar Brawl to show the resources and other cosmetic stuff like that 😁

[viscid schooner]

I’ll Shoot you a dm

[steel snow]

With the new backer packet, if anyone wants to help make PRs I patched in some item sheets today and have drawn up a list of TODO items

https://github.com/MetaMorphic-Digital/draw-steel/issues

[viscid schooner]

BTW, it appears some of the desync issues occurring in the sheets occurs when a player is using a non-chromium based browser.

I heavily suggest your players don’t use Firefox and instead use Google Chrome or Brave

[chrome cypress]

I thought Firefox is chromium based, no?

[chrome cypress]

What is a PR?

[clever tulip]

Nope, it's one of the only non-chromium ones left.

[steel snow]

Pull request aka a Community contribution to the code.

[chrome cypress]

got it, thank you lol

[chrome cypress]

huh, good to know

what about OperaGX? lol

[clever tulip]

Yes

[broken magnet]

In my experience, Foundry seems to require some people use Chrome and not Firefox. I and some people to use Firefox and not Chrome and it will sometimes swap.

I have to admit, I haven't been keeping up with this project until just now, could someone summarise where its at?

[viscid schooner]

Well Chaos’ project is an entirely different thing

The sheets and macros etc I made work quite well (imo lol) and I’ve been playing a draw steel campaign for over 3 months now

So if you want to use foundry to play then follow the pinned messages to the drive where I have everything including instructions

[steel snow]

Once I have a release I will make my own thread

Still laying the foundation

I think my next big piece is the initiative handling

[viscid schooner]

Once I’m back from holidays I’ll publish the changes I made to fit the new packet drop, pretty small changes tbh

[pulsar terrace]

step by step tthings are getting better

[viscid schooner]

@everyone I have updated the power roll macro to show Keywords in the chat, very helpful if you have abilities that only trigger on "strikes" or something. If you right click your power roll macro and import this json over it, it will work. You don't need to update any sheets or abilities 🙂

[cosmic dew]

Hey, does the current version work as-is with v12?

[viscid schooner]

Untested on my end sorry, some have reported yes? If you give it a go and it works let me know

[cosmic dew]

On a first spin, it looks like it works on v12 Build 331

[viscid schooner]

Also I have found with my players that a good way to track conditions is using the module "condition lab & triggler"

Looks like this:

I have red to mean EoT and blue to mean Save Ends

And you can hover over the conditions (when you have your token selected) to display the conditions

[dusk idol]

woah this is lit!

[viscid schooner]

These are my settings:

[dusk idol]

theres a module for searchable conditions that display conditions next to it as well btw

[viscid schooner]

and you can import this json file, and it should just work

Opening the conditions lab settings and clicking "import"

[viscid schooner]

Searchable?

[dusk idol]

like a searchbar at the top

so u can just type in the condition u want

[viscid schooner]

Oh nice

[viscid schooner]

like so

[cosmic dew]

What kind of animations are you using from Automated Animations for Draw Steel? Are you using JB2A assets and manually assigning animations to the heroic abilities?

[viscid schooner]

I don't use them, but I have it set up to work with them. I can DM you how to set it up if you'd like (and yes, it's for JB2A I believe)

[cosmic dew]

I'm somewhat interested (although just having the sheet integration on Foundry is good enough for me atm)

[viscid schooner]

This is what it ends up like. It works off the name of the ability you type in

[steel snow]

I will say I wish I had shinier progress updates but everything I'm doing is data level, but I do want to say that progress on the system implementation is going well and I hope to have an alpha out in January

[cosmic dew]

We appreciate the work y'all are putting in. I'm going to be running a oneshot on Sunday using v12 so here's hoping that nothing bricks!

[viscid schooner]

Just remember to have your players not use Firefox lol 😅

Took us months to realise that’s why it kept breaking for 2 of them

[eager lily]

Does this still not work with Foundry version 12? We need to get 11 still right?

[eager lily]

and when I run my version 12 games I just reinstall the version 12 installer?

[eager lily]

nm I got it working fine in version 11. One issue though. The rolls look like they are rolling...although I dont see any dice so nice rolling.

and I don't see any output in the chat window. But if I reload the app I see them

my active modules:

its something with dice so nice

ok uninstalled dice so nice and reinstalled and now it all works great - thanks for making this!

[viscid schooner]

How strange! Glad you got it working!

[eager lily]

yeah! Any tips on how to handle initiative? Especially with minions and such that could be in a group?

minions end up taking up a lot of space lol

[dusk idol]

activate one minion in the group and have it represent the whole squad

[viscid schooner]

Yep, that’s what I do^^

I also use this module:

https://foundryvtt.com/packages/combat-tracker-extensions

then I just have 3 phases. Turn Taken, Heros, Monsters. When a creature takes its turn I move it to “turn taken” and then once everyone has taken their turn I click two buttons and it summons all the hero’s and monsters back into their places for round 2!

[eager lily]

yeah I could do the one minion thing but I'm worried they end up killing that one and I delete them and then they are removed lol

ooo I'll check out that macro

[dusk idol]

https://foundryvtt.com/packages/lancer-initiative/

quick and easy turn order module i use

[viscid schooner]

Does it work with custom system builder?

I seem to remember having trouble getting it to work

[dusk idol]

to my knowledge, yes

oh okay

nevermind then!

[viscid schooner]

It may have been me not using it right though, so give that a go too and let us know!

[eager lily]

Is there a setup I need to do for that or is it out of the box like that?

[viscid schooner]

There is a bit of set up, yeah, messing around in the settings. So if you cbs maybe try the lancer one first

All you have to do is add in custom phases and name them, and also messing around with what you want to be visible to the players and to yourself

Then the buttons on the phases allow you to “summon all PCs” or “summon all NPCs”

[eager lily]

gotcha. Do you might doing a screen shot of your settings? If you are on a pc

[dusk idol]

yeah i think thats something that a system will have to solve for draw steel, not something a specific module can solve

[steel snow]

thanks for the reminder to make a ticket specifically for minions

[dusk idol]

it seems like the codex is making it like...a floating hp bar shared between all minions

[steel snow]

I've got the general use case of the initiative done in the system

[eager lily]

I got it setup like how you mentioned @viscid schooner althought the window is super tiny when I expand it lol

[dusk idol]

ha! i love this!

[viscid schooner]

Sorry I’m on holidays! Haha

[viscid schooner]

Yeah I recommend leaving it to the right and expanding the chat box instead

[eager lily]

yeah I just found that out too haha

well was working but I did something and I cant get the hero uup to Heroes. He stays down in the monsters for some reason

[viscid schooner]

Are they unassigned to a player?

[viscid schooner]

It looks like it thinks it’s already in the hero phase lol. Idk why that’s happening

[eager lily]

yeah I refreshed (good ole F5) and now its sticking and working right. So once everyone is in 'Turn Taken' is there a quick way to send them all back to heroes and monsters? Or do I just do it manually?

[viscid schooner]

Click the button to the right which looks like a box with an arrow pointing down, and select “All NPCs” or “All PCs”

And that will move all of those groups into the phase

[eager lily]

gotcha

thanks man you rock

[steel snow]

Starting to make progress on core system functions like "use an ability"

Still need to figure out how to showcase stuff like "Persist"

[dusk idol]

the effect u mean?

[steel snow]

Simple effect line isn't hard, it's the class-specific lines

[little sluice]

Hey @viscid schooner sorry for the question if it's already been asked, but if i update into our current game will it eat what I have already put into it?

[viscid schooner]

It shouldnt…

But I’d back up first

Just in case

When I’ve updated it’s been fine on my end

[hallow solstice]

Hi! I have used your implementation haezan a few weeks ago, I have the opportunity to do it again next Thursday, I wanted to be sure I have noit missed out on any updates? The only things covered were the conditions and the update to keywords right?

[hallow solstice]

Also I am curious on how to configure the effects as above, when I import the json I mostly get blank missing images and when I find corresponding svgs those are white with transparent background and does not retain the red/blue tint displayed on the screenshots but I don't know what I might be doing wrong 🤔

It looks like this after import I mean:

[viscid schooner]

It might be I have to attach the svg files, when I get home at the end of the week I’ll send them

In the meantime, hovering over the effect in the token tab will pop up the name for a second 😅

[viscid schooner]

Yeah I haven’t been home for a couple weeks, so haven’t been around to make the changes. I’m also not sure what changes I made tbh and the less i update the less likely it breaks lol. So if there’s anything that I absolutely need to add let me know!

[viscid schooner]

Yeah I just checked, I thought the SVGs attached in the file I sent but they didn’t

[hallow solstice]

Thanks a lot ❤️

Yes so this must be it, you do need to have blue and red SVGs available for this to work ! I thought for a time there was an option to change color that I missed 🙂

[viscid schooner]

Yeah I made them that way haha

[hallow solstice]

Smart! 😁

[eager lily]

@viscid schooner - I did the condition lab import thing and the new effects show up but I see there is like a Weakened (EoT) and a weakened (save ends) but I only see the EoT one show up in the conditions....There something I'm doing wrong?

[viscid schooner]

Unsure sorry, try deleting the save ends and adding it back?

[eager lily]

nm it seems to be the image. If I use the same image it doesn't show but if I switch it then it works

[viscid schooner]

Here are the icons I used, the "copy" versions are the blue ones and the others are red lol

[hallow solstice]

Thanks! 😃

[spice oasis]

@viscid schooner coming in late, and there’s a lot here 😭 is there a collated list of all the links and files so far?

[viscid schooner]

Heya, mostly everything should be updated in the Google doc (pinned messages) and I post it here so people know there’s an update. The extra stuff like optional modules I haven’t put there so as not to overcomplicate.

I’ll check the Google drive soon and message you here if I find it’s up to date, or update it then let you know.

#1279333525174358036 message this is the message where I talk about conditions lab, if you read the next few you’ll understand it.

And this is the message that contains the icons (which I forgot to upload at the time oops) #1279333525174358036 message

[spice oasis]

Thank you so much!!

[broken magnet]

Custom System Builder is now compatible with Foundry V12. Is that new or is it just that this particular Draw Steel build isn't compatible with the version of Custom System Builder that's compatible with Foundry V12?

[viscid schooner]

It’s new. When I made this, V12 compatibility wasn’t out yet. I’ve heard people saying it works just fine!

(I’m still on 11)

[broken magnet]

Just tried it, and it all seems okay so far

[ashen raft]

Just popped in to say thanks for all the work on this. Making some adjustments to fit my own idiosyncratic preferences but this is an amazing foundation/tutorial.

In progress, but:

[viscid schooner]

Hell yeah

[untold marsh]

@viscid schooner ran my first session using this setup tonight and it worked great, really appreciate all your work on this!

[viscid schooner]

Hey man I’m glad!

[untold marsh]

I'm curious to know how people are tracking Surges, Malice, and Hero Tokens using this system, if they are

[viscid schooner]

Ah yeah true, I made these sheets before that change. My players just track them however they wish, but I guess I could add a surge box to track them

I think currently they use a shared journal file so everyone could see how many surges each person has

In the same file they keep track of the hero tokens

[untold marsh]

Makes sense, that's basically what we did

I think I'll use Party Resources

https://foundryvtt.com/packages/fvtt-party-resources

[viscid schooner]

Oh that’s a really neat idea

[ashen raft]

Yeah Party Resources for Hero Tokens and Malice is my plan too.

Surges I just added to the sheet

[ashen raft]

I'm trying to decide if there is value in creating more item types for things like ancestries, kits, etc that would allow for easier character creation and some limited automation (like calculating max stamina from class + kit + ancestry + level, etc) or if limited automation would be more confusing than just leaving it pen and paper style.

[agile spruce]

I think that will be a lot of work. Haezan's system is great but I think once there's a proper fvtt system to install you'll have these QoL things there

[viscid schooner]

Yeah I thought about it too, but as TheDvDias said, my sheets are just a temporary thing whilst others make actual systems for it haha. @steel snow is making a proper system from scratch for foundry (how’s that tracking btw?) and obviously the codex is also being made and I imagine a lot of people will use that

So you can make some more things if you wish! Certainly wouldn’t hurt, but it may be a pointless task if you finish and then Chaos whips out the foundry system lol (which will be much better than mine as it’ll be full system integration not just pen-and-paper style sheets)

[steel snow]

Trying to put out a release today

[spice oasis]

Any chance you could give me an @ if you’re able to? :O

[agile spruce]

I've been checking from time to time and it's impressive how fast it progressed

[steel snow]

Got to run a playtest. Needs a few more days to cook

[whole cosmos]

Where could someone find this Project?

[steel snow]

https://github.com/MetaMorphic-Digital/draw-steel

[whole cosmos]

Thank you very much. 🙂

[severe axle]

👋 glad to see you're all still pushing this along, haven't had time to mess with the new packet or updates just wanted to say hi

[fierce hill]

Has anyone found a way they like tracking minion tokens? I've been doing a token for each minion with each having one minions worth of stamina, but only adding one to initiative. It works but feels sub-optimal.

[fossil finch]

so this might get messy if you have multiple of the same minion, but what comes to mind would be linking actor data, and then making duplicates if you need another of the same minion (you would still have to only add one minion per group though)

[agile spruce]

Good old quill and parchment for me

[fierce hill]

Oh yeah that would let the whole stamina pool be shared between the group, still an improvement

[steel snow]

I've been trying to crack this nut for the system, it's pretty close the downside is it also means they share effects

[fossil finch]

for initiative could probably like pop out one of each minion, add those to initiative, then clone the existing tokens on the table to get the minion count you need

[fossil finch]

i've been trying to figure out how tf to make a foundry world, and i kinda got stuck at the starting line.... so idk if i have any good ideas in that regard

not familiar enough with what's available... like how the actor links work

i guess, without knowing much more about it, i would try to create a function that attaches to a button to duplicate a token, which would create a new token (read original if already a copy) that copied name, current stamina, max stamina, image and have event listeners for when the original had its stamina change, and if its own stamina would change it would overwrite the original's stamina

implementation? damn if i know

or....

maybe have function create invisible character sheets (or just have several invisible ones to attach to), actor link to them, clean up sheet when all tokens linked are removed from field

which... i guess would share the status effects, which you don't want to do

[steel snow]

Hopefully will have the system alpha out next week. My coworkers and I have been busy getting Flee Mortals ready

[fierce hill]

That is a weird case to deal with. Are status effects well defined for how they interact with minions? I don't think I know how I'd rule a lot of them at the table.

[fossil finch]

wish i could help.

only know enough to get in trouble

[steel snow]

you might have a non-damaging effect that AOE applies something like Restrained

so now you have to know which minions got caught or not

[rapid mulch]

So what jcheung said with linking to the actor is how I ran it for him last night while we used Foundry (though without the system this thread is based on, wish I'd found this first instead of modifying the pf2e system i already had installed). Using um...token...mold? I had an overlay that gave me the total stamina on hover, and I just set AC to be an individual minions HP so that I could just delete a token when each threshold was reached. It worked for a quick and dirty way to represent them without anything specially made for it.

[fossil finch]

well, i sure didn't know that's how you had it set up 😛

[rapid mulch]

Should have asked :P

[fossil finch]

why would i care, i had a whole rules system to learn 😛 (totally didn't just not look at the rules at all)

[viscid schooner]

Have you looked at how they do it in the codes?

It’s pretty interesting

There’s a video on how they’ve implemented minions, when you place a token down it combines them into one stamina pool that floats next to them all

[ashen raft]

For reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REXDYVuth5g&t=1s&ab_channel=Vex

[viscid schooner]

Thanks! I wasn’t sure where I’d seen it exactly

[fossil finch]

@viscid schooner just trying to double check, does this suppress token hp stuff, or is this just not supported in custom system builder by default? (i've only messed with the similar simple world building, not custom system builder)

[viscid schooner]

Like health bars do you mean?

[fossil finch]

yeah

kinda

[viscid schooner]

I use Bar Brawl to get them to work

[fossil finch]

so with simple world building if you right click the token you can edit hp directly

[fossil finch]

oh

[viscid schooner]

Yeah, so because the sheet uses a bar and not a text field, you can’t edit the health by directly interacting with the health bar in the token

[fossil finch]

hrm.

just out of curiousity

[viscid schooner]

What you can do is in the sheet template, click on the bar and turn it into a number field

And that should allow it to work

[fossil finch]

why the choise of bar?

[viscid schooner]

Looked nice ¯\(ツ)/ haha

But it’s also because the buttons to take damage or heal print to the chat etc

And having it be a bar means the player has to use the buttons, so everyone can see what their health interactions have been

[fossil finch]

you couldn't do an event listener for onchange?

[viscid schooner]

I set up macros for my players so they don’t have to open the sheet to trigger damage or to spend a recovery if that would help?

[rapid mulch]

interesting

[viscid schooner]

Maybe! But it was complicated to get working in the first place

[fossil finch]

yeah, i was thinking about building some macros to do that as well, but i don't know what to hit

can you share your macros?

[viscid schooner]

Give me 5 and I’ll send it through

[fossil finch]

no rush

[viscid schooner]

For taking damage it's:

await actor.templateSystem.roll('lose_stamina_key', {postMessage: false});

And for a recorvery it's:

await actor.templateSystem.roll('recovery_spend', {postMessage: false});

And set all players to "observer" of the macros

I gtg now but I'll answer any follow up questions you got later

[rapid mulch]

thanks for all of your help with this!

[fossil finch]

^

[fossil finch]

just out of curiosity, why is it that if i use gain stamina with a negative number, the winded chat text shows up correctly (not the damage/gain though) but the stamina goes... up?

[fossil finch]

recommend adjust to await canvas.tokens.controlled[0].actor.templateSystem.roll('recovery_spend', {postMessage: false}); to allow for global 'selected token'

(it works like the previous if multiple tokens are selected)

for (const i in actors) {
console.log(i)
actors[i].actor.templateSystem.roll('recovery_spend', {postMessage: false})
}```
this would handle multiple selection

[ashen raft]

One you could also do is make the current health field as a number field that is only visible to GM only on the sheet, but then have a separate bar that references it via formula.

[viscid schooner]

All very good fixes

Though I’ve kind of stopped development on this since ChaosOS has his bespoke system nearly at a stage for people to use, so any further development I do will probably be not worth it

[viscid schooner]

I think it’s because I couldn’t set it to only receive positive numbers, so anything you put in is just passed to an absolute function. I figured, why would you ever want to heal a negative amount

Likewise, why would you ever take negative damage

But the dialogue box comes with negative and positive options and I don’t know how to stop that.

I don’t actually know Java at all, this is just me wacking something together with my basic coding knowledge and searching the documentation for ways to do things

And it’s a bit wonky 😂 but it does the job. Just wanted to give people something to let them get started whilst we wait for full implementations in foundry/the codex

[ashen raft]

And it is much appreciated! 😄

I'm still doing a little work here and there on this solution for my own purposes. ChaosOS is doing awesome work and close to an Alpha release, but that may or may not be ready for use in an ongoing campaign. Building from scratch is an enormous amount of work!

[fossil finch]

ah. i would have set up a single function for both, positive heals and negative damages with autodetect of which based on positive or negative, or have a toggle on the dialogue for damage or heal

side note, this isn't java, but javascript

which you're doing fine-it's not like i'm a pro either. i'm pretty new to this myself

as a side note, if anyone is looking for a way to apply AOE damage to multiple NPC tokens...

let modifier

await Dialog.prompt({
  title: 'Damage',
  content: `<form>
      <div class="form-group"><label>Damage:</label>
          <div class="form-fields"><input name="mod" type="number" value="0" /></div>
      </div>
  </form>`,
  callback: html => {
    modifier = +html.find('input[name=mod]').val()
  },
  close: () => null,
  rejectClose: false
})

for (const i in actors) {
  const winded = Math.floor(actors[i].actor.system.props.stamina_max / 2)
  let stamina = actors[i].actor.system.props.stamina_current - modifier
  actors[i].actor.update({ system: { props: { stamina_current: stamina } } })

  let message = ""

  if (stamina <= 0) {
    message = "They are dead."
  } else if (stamina <= winded) {
    message = "They are winded."
  }
  ChatMessage.create({
    content: `${actors[i].document.name} has taken ${modifier} damage, reducing them to ${stamina} stamina.<br/>${message}`,
  })
}```

...at least i'm pretty sure that the gm didn't modify anything on the table that would make that not work for other people

[fossil finch]

did a little searching, this should prevent negatives if you run into that in the future
<input type="number" min="0" oninput="this.value = Math.abs(this.value)">
oninput runs a function that checks each keystroke and converts it to absolute value. if you do a non number, like negative, it sets it to 0

[worldly marsh]

Is there a way to make the heroic resource go into negative, for clarity, in this foundry sheet?

[viscid schooner]

Oh I may have not updated that, yeah i'll post it soon lol

[worldly marsh]

Thankyou!

[viscid schooner]

Replace the hero sheet template with this one

[worldly marsh]

Perfect thankyou

[viscid schooner]

I'll update the google doc too now

[fossil finch]

I don't suppose you can sneak in surge tracking?

[worldly marsh]

Its in the new sheet too

[fossil finch]

oh cool

@rapid mulch update

[rapid mulch]

But

But

.....okay yeah that'd be worth the five button presses

[viscid schooner]

Can always press c to bring up the sheet!

[fossil finch]

(he means to update the template)

[viscid schooner]

Gotcha lol

[worldly marsh]

Is Automated Animations worth it?

[worldly marsh]

Did you bother setting up triggers to these? Would I be able to steal them to import would be a big help 🙏

[viscid schooner]

Foundry VTT [UPDATED Feb 25] - Heros, Monsters, Abilities oh my!

[viscid schooner]

I didn’t add any triggers in, no

[viscid schooner]

For me personally? No. But others seem to enjoy it!

[worldly marsh]

Also saw you had like, lil tool tip boxes appear with the rules for the condition, that easy to do?

[viscid schooner]

I think it should just work if you import that json file? And make sure these icons are unzipped into your User Data folder (can be found by right-clicking the foundry icon in your taskbar and clicking "browse user data" then navigate to the Data folder)

If you forget to unzip the icons, you can just save them to whatever folder you want and then manually go through the condition lab and set the images to these icons. Or your own!

[worldly marsh]

I've done that, but I don't think it was giving the descriptions for each effect. But I might have missed something. Will take another look tomorrow but thankyou 🙏

[wraith moth]

Man yall here do some great bloody work! Doing DS is my first time using foundry after just a whole bunch of annoyances with roll20 adding up over the years, so fiddling with janky ways to do sheets and finally this has taught me a bunch.

Quick question, for abilities that add an actors attributes, what is the way to reference that actors number (and the kit bonuses) and is there a way to have the maths done automatically? I think i know what to use as a reference but not how to do it/in regards to a specific actor.

So like t1 melee weapon free strike is 2 + might_score + kit_melee_1.

[wooden cloud]

Does this run on v12 yet? Or is it still on V11?

[wraith moth]

working fine for me on v12 with custom combat system updated

[viscid schooner]

Before I answer I just want a bit more context, do you mean like in the tiers of an ability? Or are you looking to make your own ability sheets?

[wraith moth]

The tiers yeah

[rapid mulch]

I used [[2 + @might_score]] to reference the creatures ability scores. Didn't figure out how to call the kit bonuses though.

It looks weird and funny on the sheet itself, but hey if you just post it into the chat it looks great!

[wraith moth]

thanks thats what i was after! kits stuff is kit_melee_1,2 or 3

[viscid schooner]

Custom system builder uses ${}$ to reference things too, so you could try ${might_score}$ etc, but if the way Sparky is describing works then great!

[rapid mulch]

I blame @fossil finch for my syntax

[fossil finch]

Hey, it worked didn't it

[turbid bridge]

Wow, yes, it does work in v12. Thanks for confirming!

[fossil finch]

the real question is does it work in v13 without major changes 😄

haezan, how do you make this sheet anyhow?

[viscid schooner]

Make it or install it?
Install it: follow the instructions in the pinned message
Make it: the docs on the custom-system-builder wiki walk through it all!

https://gitlab.com/custom-system-builder/custom-system-builder

[formal umbra]

Hello, I am trying to install this on my foundry and it keeps throwing an error message I'm not sure about.

[viscid schooner]

Can you screenshot the error and send?

[viscid schooner]

What are you trying to install exactly?

The sheets or the system?

[formal umbra]

The system

[viscid schooner]

What version of foundry are you running?

[formal umbra]

version 12 build 331

[viscid schooner]

And how are you going about attempting to install the system?

[formal umbra]

The git page says there are two options to install using the system .json or by manually copying one of the zip releases manually onto the system. I've tried the .json method but Foundry throws an error. Checking the json file shows it references a zip file that no longer exists.

There are no releases on that github page, so I can't install it manually that way either.

https://github.com/MetaMorphic-Digital/draw-steel/releases/download/release-0.6.0/draw-steel-release-0.6.0.zip

[viscid schooner]

Ah okay

So that’s not mine

That’s another persons work that’s a WIP

Follow the pinned message in this thread for how to install mine

[formal umbra]

Ah, my mistake. Appreciate the links!

[lilac storm]

working on a little video that will hopefully be useful to you all for some combat tools to run Draw Steel in foundry with!

figured out a few modules which realy help out

[viscid schooner]

Amazing keen to see it!

[lilac storm]

btw @viscid schooner did you make different coloured icons for use with Condition Lab? because i cant seem to get them to colour with the icon tint bit.

https://i.imgur.com/dMqPuL2.png

this bit doesnt seem to be colouring the icon

scratch that - found your zip file!

[paper sierra]

I'm gearing up to run DS as we're switching systems in my game. I made a thing that might be useful:

i also did a thing to add ability icons to the chat message - not sure what the best way to share that is, as it involves modifying the power roll macro and all the roll button label scripts, but I thought people might be interested

[lilac storm]

here's the video! i hope it helps y'all :) https://discord.com/channels/332362513368875008/1342156960426102886

[atomic blade]

Amazing work, thank you!

[viscid schooner]

That’s so great from both of you! I’m going to add your video link to the Google drive @lilac storm

[lilac storm]

thank you! I'm still noodling with neatening and expanding the sheets, I'll share my updates and stuff here :)

[steel snow]

Wanted to say that the system is now available and I've started a separate thread not to distract from the impressive results with Custom System Builder here https://discord.com/channels/332362513368875008/1342298358664138805

[paper sierra]

How are yall handling abilities that have an optional cost? i.e. spend X resources to gain some benefit, but you can use the ability without spending any resources.

[viscid schooner]

Just manually decrease the HR

[paper sierra]

well i meant more how are you representing it on the ability card? Right now I find myself just making a second ability that has a cost, which works, but is annoying to setup

[viscid schooner]

I just type it out like it’s represented in the book

[agile spruce]

Just write in the sheet ?

[viscid schooner]

I put the additional HR cost in the effect

[agile spruce]

Honestly I think 90% of my abilities dont have the cost set up properly 😂

[viscid schooner]

If you wanna get real fancy you can use <br> to make a new line and <strong>Spend X Resource:</strong> to make it bold

[paper sierra]

idk how you could possibly expect to remember those @agile spruce

[viscid schooner]

(It’ll appear as new lines and bold in the player sheet and on the chat)

[paper sierra]

yeah maybe ill just make the effect into a rtf

[agile spruce]

We don't, we just have them in the ability description

We usually just ctrl+c ctrl+v the ability from the pdf

[paper sierra]

oh i see

well whatever works for you 🙂

[lilac storm]

<br> works, but i tend to enclose the first ability in <p> tags for the slightly nicer spacing

actually it seems like there's not much difference :P

[viscid schooner]

Haha! I often just cbs typing the </pg> lol

[fossil finch]

because the fields take raw HTML you can get a whole lot more fancy than that 😄

can color individual letters if you want

[lilac storm]

gay abilities gay abilities gay abilities

[fossil finch]

i mean if you want

<hr/> is also a fun one to include sometimes

[lilac storm]

oh totally

[lilac storm]

hey! I've got a bit of a problem with the sheet that i don't know how to fix. The demon chorogaunt has a +3 to an attack, but only has +2 stats, meaning i need a permanent modifier field i can apply to the ability power roll. I'm not skilled in JS, how do i add this to the macro/sheet? obvs know how to add the field and all

[viscid schooner]

I think I just made their might 3, but I guess that might make potency checks later difficult

What you could do is give a permanent +1 bonus to the roll, just like how when you roll it prompts you to add an edge and a bonus etc, you could make the “bonus” entry automatically be 1

Let me get that for you

[viscid schooner]

In the monster ability item add this "Bonus" box as a number field and make the component key "bonus"

Then click the roll button and scroll down the roll message to this part and change the 0 to ${bonus}$ which will read whatever is put in the bonus box

Then in the _enemy template sheet, click the left circled section and scroll down the roll message to the right part and add in ${item.bonus}$ to read the item's bonus box, save and then "reload all character sheets" and you're good to go

You may need to click the reload button in the top right of an ability item to get the bonus box to appear, as "reload all items" doesn't work for items in sheets for some reason

But now, when you roll the demon's ability, it will show up a default bonus of +1 ontop of it's might score (for example) to give it a +3

[paper sierra]

We had our first real session tonight and everything went really smoothly with one exception - stamina is not displaying correctly for everyone all the time, and its especially incorrect for people who don't own the character. E.g. my tactician player is at 23/30 but it shows as 17/30 for me as director. Any ideas?

you can see that the stamina bar says 17 but the actual js data for the actor (bottom right) has stamina_current = 23

[lilac storm]

either sheet corruption or non-linked actor data

[paper sierra]

yeah, i think it must be non-linked actor data somehow. Pulling it from the actor tab was correct, the tokens on the map itself were wrong.

ty

[lilac storm]

make sure you tick link actor data in the tokens, its not on by default for PCs

[viscid schooner]

Yep, you need to make sure the "prototype token" has "link actor data" turned on

[lilac storm]

token and prototype token menus continue to be the absolute bane of my existence in foundry

what do you MEAN this change on the players token isnt reflected on their prototype they have LINKED ACTOR DATA!! so frustrating having to make the change on prototype and then re-place the token

[viscid schooner]

For those looking:

#1279333525174358036 message this is the message where I talk about conditions lab, if you read the next few you’ll understand it.

And this is the message that contains the icons (which I forgot to upload at the time oops) #1279333525174358036 message

[agile spruce]

Honestly for me it's that and the defunct "Global Volume Control" which only changed the volume for you 😂

[pastel niche]

So I'm following along with the installation guide - excellent work so far, this has been very intuitive!

I mentioned in director advice that the person who built a PbtA version of this system incorporated a parsing/import macro that could read Monster Stat Blocks and Hero Abilities and import them. I wonder if such a thing would be possible here?

[pastel niche]

Happy to share the Macros here in case someone with more experience in Macros might be able to take a crack at it.

[viscid schooner]

Go ahead, I’ll take a punt at it

[pastel niche]

Monster Importer

Ability Importer

The functionality is really simple, it pops up a dialogue, you paste in the copied stat block or ability, it parses and creates the Abilities, parses and creates the Stat Blocks, and for Monsters it adds the Abilities to their Stat Blocks.

I suspect the main challenge here will be matching up naming and typing conventions to your system so they create/import correctly.

[viscid schooner]

I’ll let you know how I go

[pastel niche]

Sounds good, if you can get this thing working then the process of creating/importing content for a possible Compendium/Module could be dramatically streamlined!

For example, this is how it looks in PbtA.

[lilac storm]

That’s very impressive

[pastel niche]

I definitely can't take credit for it, but I have been tinkering with it in the PbtA system and it's quite a well designed Macro.

[viscid schooner]

God damn I need to go to bed it’s 2am.

But I messed around for several hours and it’s working! Gotta test some more and maybe publish here tomorrow!

Will make all your lives easier importing the abilities

Then monster stat blocks next

[pastel niche]

Let's gooooo!

I can tell you that I'll definitely prioritize getting a Compendium package built of player abilities ASAP once it's working.

[lilac storm]

thats awesome to hear, really excited!

[viscid schooner]

Check. It. Out.

All Talent Abilities Imported cleanly in seconds!!

@pastel niche I'll DM it to you so you can play around and see if it breaks!

@steel snow it starts by exporting it all to a dictionary like:

const ability = {
Name: "",
Cost: 0,
Keywords: "",
Type: "Action",
Distance: "",
Target: "",
Trigger: "",
Stat: "Might",
Ability_1: "",
Ability_2: "",
Ability_3: "",
Effect: "",
};

So if I sent you that part you could easily modify the rest to import all the abilities into your system

If you were interested

[steel snow]

Neat thank you

[pastel niche]

Amazing!

[pastel niche]

So far it works, @viscid schooner, good going!

[pastel niche]

Hmm, after doing some more testing, @viscid schooner , ran into a weird thing. The macro isn't importing multiple abilities at a time, only the first ability block it comes across.

[viscid schooner]

Oh interesting can you dm me the block you’re trying to extract? It’s supposed to work en masse 😅

[pastel niche]

No problem.

[worldly marsh]

So to clarify, this macro will turn pasted into text. Into abilities that can be dragged into character sheets. Within the structure Haezan has already made?

[lilac storm]

woah.

[pastel niche]

Yup. Copy/paste the text of the abilities, including multiple abilities, into the Prompt.

Select a Folder for them to be stored in.

It'll parse the text and create new abilities, populated with the copied text, and removing all non-Abilities text.

[viscid schooner]

You just have to make one small change yourselves:

Go to your _ability_template item and click the button in the top left to copy the macro ID (it’ll be a long string of numbers and letters)

The paste it into this part of the code

If it has “item.” before it just delete that part, this is just telling the macro to use the _ability_template as the base template to populate

(Which will have a different unique ID for each foundry world)

[viscid schooner]

Can also change this part if you want to source an svg icon for the ability

[pastel niche]

What I'd suggest, for your own ends (maybe it's just my OCD), but I'd create distinct folder organization for this import.

Eg., Player Abilites -> Class -> Subclass/Domains, etc., to import Abilities to. Otherwise if you Import and entire class' worth of abilities you'll need to organize it all yourself.

And as Haezan pointed out, you might want to make copies of the Macro with unique images to cover different ability types/Action costs (this one is big for helping organize a Monster/Hero's action economy on their sheet.

[viscid schooner]

Yeah 100% that’s good advice

Could even add a bit of code to set the icon based on something, like cost or action/maneuver or keywords

[pastel niche]

Yeah, that'd be awesome.

MFW I organize all the abilities on a Character sheet in order of Action -> Maneuver -> Triggered, etc., drag the Token onto the Map, and the organization breaks 😭

[viscid schooner]

Well if you do organise them I know people here would love a compendium!

[pastel niche]

That's the plan!

As you and I discussed, without having unique item types for Features and Effects (ie., +4 Stamina, etc.) for Kits, that part seems like it'll still be pretty manual, but Class, Ancestry, and Kit abilities are ones I can make a Compendium for.

[lilac storm]

I can get cracking on getting some of them imported too if you want help @pastel niche

[pastel niche]

Feel free! Admittedly my first effort right now is getting a few Heroes/Monsters imported/built to test the functionality out with a full encounter to see what may be missing/need some QoL treatment, then I was going to start scrubbing.

[lilac storm]

if you'd like, i can drop you my world file with all of that kinda stuff in it?

save you some time

[pastel niche]

Oh that may be very helpful, yeah! I have been working off of a World I built/module added with a few dozen abilities/handful of monsters already imported. But if you have something more than that it could help condense effort.

[lilac storm]

I customised the sheets a good bit and need to update the sheets.json in the drive linked under my video but no breaking functionality changes other than the bonus on monster abilities discussed above

So i've got a full 6 heroes at level 2 imported, all of the echelon 1 demons and i think most of the echelon 1 war dogs, and a thorn dragon for good measure ;)

[pastel niche]

Yeah I imported your sheets.json already so have been working from that.

Ah, cool! I have a Censor/Fury/Elementalist and about 6 Goblins built in so far.

[lilac storm]

Exporting the tokens in a compendium module is probably easier than sending the whole world file, give me a moment and i'll get that done

[pastel niche]

Sweet, thanks! I'll see about building the rest of and dumping the Gobbos here as well.

[lilac storm]

Here - also chucked my latest templates in for good measure broken

[pastel niche]

Great, thanks!

[lilac storm]

no clue if the art goes with it but most of it was Tokens I Have Lying Around™️

[pastel niche]

Same, haha

[slim crypt]

Does yours need any other fiddling?

[lilac storm]

my templates should be good to go, but the monster abilities for the War Dogs on their sheets may need refreshing because the bonus field might be missing on them.

[slim crypt]

(also trying to import anything kicks up errors about abilities not present - possibly a compendium issue? IDK)

[lilac storm]

AH ok i see let me get a new version i know whats happening

[slim crypt]

So i don't need to mark anything as "Ability Temp" or so on

[lilac storm]

yeah, its trying to reference items and abilities i didn't provide. I'm getting those together and will ship em in a second

[slim crypt]

🤘

[lilac storm]

this should be functional, let me know if you run into anything else. Import the items first.

you'll also want to overwrite the templates you're using most likely

[slim crypt]

I snorted.

[pastel niche]

One issue I had recently when I updated the character sheets is that all items I had previously created/imported popped up yellow flags saying the previous template was deleted. Admittedly not sure how to approach that.

[slim crypt]

right the actor tokens are still boke

[lilac storm]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-starr-balatro-eating-banana-cavendish-gros-michel-gif-6680221824460769788

[slim crypt]

idk why, but this is good enough

[lilac storm]

what's up with them?

[slim crypt]

this is with monsters too

[lilac storm]

yeah thats because you don't get the images with em it seems

sheets should work

[slim crypt]

nbd

sheets work and import

[lilac storm]

perfecto

i can ship my token and artwork folders over tho

[slim crypt]

we're good

the roll button isn't going for monsters atm

... just for the first ability on the thorn dragon.

Hrm.

[lilac storm]

yeah that might be borked for a couple, make sure their abilities have had their item sheets refreshed and are using the templates i provided - the sheets reference the bonus field which if it cant find it crashes.

thought i caught them all, mb 😅

[slim crypt]

they are

[lilac storm]

was broken on my end

[slim crypt]

it's literally just the first -AH

okay i sorted it, literally filling in the number. Wild.

[lilac storm]

yep, if it gets null back it shits itself kekw

[slim crypt]

Right. I'm getting on with some work but there's a bit of dead air right now.

Is there any way to help divide and conquer the work for abilities?

[pastel niche]

Wdym?

[lilac storm]

if there's three of us and nine classes, we just each do three?

[pastel niche]

I can handle Censor, Fury, and Elementalist since I'm already building test Heroes for them. Almost done building all of the level 1 Goblins.

[slim crypt]

🆗

[lilac storm]

i'll hit Talent, Tactician and Troubadour - the three muska-T-eers

[slim crypt]

Leaving me with Shadow, Conduit and Null

[lilac storm]

The longer part will be setting icons for each of these 😅

[slim crypt]

Seperate Task

[lilac storm]

@viscid schooner issue with the Virtuoso Routines - the quotes in the names are failing the import

assumedly just needs whatever break character JS uses before them so that it reads them as text not as endquotes

assumedly this is gonna go for any ability with " in its name

the four failed on Troubadour are:

"Moonlight Sonata"
"Radical Fantasia"
"Ballad of the Beast"
"Thunder Mother"

and "Strike Now!" failed for Tactician

I'll get them manually listed but its definitely something worth updating for future content

[pastel niche]

Oh yeah, this is gonna be good.

[lilac storm]

neat

btw those of who you grabbed my export get a preview of my weird shaman class lol

still very early playtesting but im trying to strike a middleground between summoner and beastheart, getting close to the 4e shaman fantasy

[pastel niche]

Cool!

[slim crypt]

I had an idea i might build sometime for a Probability Manipulator type

[lilac storm]

ooo

Alright, i've completed my abilities, I'm gonna put them in a compendium module and send it here.

Next person to finish - download it, install and enable the module, unlock the compendium, add your ability folders and then send it back here!

[slim crypt]

That was Quick!

[lilac storm]

selected literally the whole class and CTRL+C CTRL+V

worked a charm

(other than the quote named ones lol)

[slim crypt]

Wait what really

i've been doing them one at a time

[pastel niche]

Yeah the importer works en masse

It's why I suggested some preliminary organization into folders so you can grab batches of abilities and import them into their respective folder. Otherwise you'll end up with dozens of abilities you need to organize, lol

[slim crypt]

it suddenly occurs that i'm doing this with the 3rd level packet

is that going to be fine?

[pastel niche]

It occurs to me that I've not exported a compendia before. I just zipped the folder of Goblins I created a compendium for in the game, is that the right process?

@viscid schooner Quick update. I have an Monk's Active Tiles feature set up that can add Heroic Resources to a character.

Going to test a few variations on this to see how easily I could automate it - unfortunately Lancer Initiative doesn't count Creature Activation as a "Turn" for purposes of Combat Turn triggering.

[lilac storm]

not exactly, i'll make a quick video

will check!

[lilac storm]

ah, i did it with the patreon packet - i should actually take those abilities out as they're not public yet

[slim crypt]

Should i pull my upload then?

Gonna do that.

[lilac storm]

i'll do the same and re-send once i've got mine re-done. were yours just up to 3rd?

anything 4-10 shouldnt be included

[pastel niche]

Ah, good call. I'll remove the 3rd level stuff from my Export as well once I prepare it.

[lilac storm]

3rd can stay, 4th cant

[slim crypt]

Just up to 3rd.

[pastel niche]

Ah ok

[slim crypt]

It's better than nothing atm, and it's good for a quick build

[lilac storm]

i also didnt sort mine like you did, so i should do that :D

[slim crypt]

The next challenge presented is importing

Since we now have a compendia up to third, it might be possible to populate a sheet automatically.

[lilac storm]

making a character builder would be a big step which i don't know if its necessary, but i think Forge Steel provides a JSON export?

[slim crypt]

Yeah importing from json

A builder even with the patreon packet would be a lil overkill

But just being able to roughly have your character in from json

I think Pathmuncher for pathfinder 2e uses a similar setup for processing characters from file - referencing a compendium

[lilac storm]

alright im gonna get this video sorted before i send back my updated module copy

[pastel niche]

I shouldn't have given myself Elementalist, so much just Text stuff that can't import, lmao

[lilac storm]

lots of that just goes in the features panel

instead of as an ability

can look at my Hadrian character sheet as an example

[pastel niche]

Yeah I'm just creating abilities for them so they can easily be copy/pasted into a Feature text box.

[lilac storm]

honestly fair, i do think they might be better served as items instead of sheets however the table view makes it annoying - CSB has its limits

[pastel niche]

Yeah, I spoke with Haezan about this. A separate item structure to handle Features would be well appreciated.

[lilac storm]

i could work on it soon probably

[pastel niche]

Noice

Once I get these imports out I'm going to get to tinkering again with an automated Heroic Resource system.

[slim crypt]

Well either way, get those last 3 powers done and we'll have something good to help people

And this will also help me when i run a one shot this week lolol

[lilac storm]

If you get that working, it'd be pretty sick. annoying we rely on another module but hey its the limits of CSB

[pastel niche]

~~When are you planning on running 👀 ~~

Yeah I definitely have a functional Player gets a prompt at the top of the round, Clicks a Tile, get their Resource workflow in place. But I would like something more concrete than that. I wish Lancer Initiative counted each Activation as a separate Combat Turn.

[slim crypt]

I think lancer initiative is not used by the lancer system

[pastel niche]

Lmao

[lilac storm]

does the lancer initiative module have an API that we can call?

[pastel niche]

Maybe? But not that I can tell as one I can call through Monk's Active Tiles.

[lilac storm]

@pastel niche