run at your own risk

[heady acorn]

It's never more complicated on Linux :))

[jagged stirrup]

$ g++ -o game ./game.cpp
$ ./game

[mystic kayak]

wrong

[heady acorn]

not

[mystic kayak]

literally most of win32 and windows forms, in their maybe more limited functionality, are much simpler to use for their specific purpose

[crystal pilot]

incredible

what system do you think that C++ was developed on

[mystic kayak]

ngl linux cursed for that, executables should have an ending

how tf do you tell

[crystal pilot]

unix moment

[mystic kayak]

i could name my exe game.c

[crystal pilot]

yeah

[mystic kayak]

and you would never know

[crystal pilot]

ofc you would kn

cause you can check the permissions

[mystic kayak]

actually i can name my text file game and then have an executable right beside it in another folder named game too

but what if you just set permissions to execute the text file

with like a hashbang at the top so it actually does

[crystal pilot]

explain

[mystic kayak]

YOU NEVER KNOW IF IT'S A BINARY

[crystal pilot]

yeah I do

[mystic kayak]

like ```python
#!bin/python/

or something, i forgot hashbang kind of

hack_system_and_rm_rf()

[crystal pilot]

any executable could have that lol

i dunno how this is *nix specific

[mystic kayak]

i'm talking ab differentiating between a binary blob and a file with code in it

[crystal pilot]

why

if it can be executed it can be executed

[crystal pilot]

2 files in the same dir cant have the same name

[mystic kayak]

yeah but it's annoying af not being able to tell whether it's a file you can edit or not

literally can't tell without reading file

[crystal pilot]

file

[mystic kayak]

????

[mystic kayak]

bruh

you want me to execute a command for every file that doesn't have an extension

ur trippin, it should literally just be in the name like a normal file

[crystal pilot]

usually your file manager shows it

ls -la shows it too

see the permissions thingy

[mystic kayak]

i'm talking ab dolphin

even dolphin doesn't show it the last time i used it

also i like just doing ls

and being able to tell

from the file name

[crystal pilot]

dolphin definitley has icons

[mystic kayak]

not doing weird arguments

[crystal pilot]

0 clue what ur on abt

[crystal pilot]

weird arguments?

[mystic kayak]

-la?? why would i want to remember that

[crystal pilot]

oh thats just to format it

you just need -l

[mystic kayak]

i would like to just know based on the name of the file ngl

[crystal pilot]

-rwxr-xr-x   1 frityet  staff         91  8 Apr 14:23 test.lua

[crystal pilot]

but it literally shows you what it is

on the command line

in your file browser

literally everywhere

[mystic kayak]

not really on the command line

in vim, in ls, in other places

it's just file name

dolphin, idk it didn't show icons for me at all

when i installed it

just file names

[crystal pilot]

wdym

[mystic kayak]

in the utilities i actually use

it's not there

i have to go out of my way to find out

[crystal pilot]

even then, it tells you what type of file it is on hover o

[mystic kayak]

yeah im not hovering on every file

i literally started adding .bin to every executable i ever make in makefiles on linux

bc it's literally so stupid

[crystal pilot]

this is one of the non-issues of all time

[mystic kayak]

it's annoying

not too much of an issue, just annoying to dealwith

[crystal pilot]

ive never seen anyone have this annoyance

[mystic kayak]

bc you all were born with linux

[crystal pilot]

MacOS actually

which is a unix

but even with people who have switched to linux

[mystic kayak]

i mean yeah it is a personal annoyance, but i don't get why adding an executable file ending isn't just common

i'm pretty sure the tools you referenced have to read from the file to check if it's an elf

which is enough reason to just add a specific file extension to it, so there's less ambiguity

like Makefile and a lot of other text formats in linux don't really have a file extension also, so again there's a ton of ambiguity and you have to go out of the way and explicitly read the file or check perms(?) to get an idea of what it is

[crystal pilot]

nope

they jsut read the headers

its cached anyways

[crystal pilot]

there are different executable formats

[crystal pilot]

Makefile is execusable because it can only be called Makefile imo

idk abt the other ones ur on abt

[mystic kayak]

idk, like .name files maybe

[mystic kayak]

yeah still more effort than just seeing filename = exe

[crystal pilot]

well what executable format would the .exe be?

[mystic kayak]

elf?

the default executable format?

[crystal pilot]

what if its not an elf though

[mystic kayak]

then you can use .py or whatever language it needs

[crystal pilot]

what if its a mach-o binary

[mystic kayak]

like in windows it still calls the program specific to the file to execute it

idk wtf that is

but sure have an extension specific to it?

and linux can call the program that executes it or make it execute by itself

[crystal pilot]

nope

[crystal pilot]

its the MacOS executable format

[mystic kayak]

yeah idk what it is so

[crystal pilot]

also what if its a COFF binary

[mystic kayak]

i know elf and mbf

can you explain waht ur talking about a bit more

[crystal pilot]

point is that by just making each executable .exe there will still be errors

[mystic kayak]

but they can just have different file endings?

[crystal pilot]

so a .elf .coff .macho?

[mystic kayak]

i'm not saying it has to be .exe it can be .elf or .coff or whatever it wants, just pls have an ending

yeah

sure

ngl i miss that part ab windows, where you can actually tell file contents somewhat

[thin summit]

yo that's a cool terminal font it looks like the minecraft font lmao

[crystal pilot]

yeah it is the minecraft font

[thin summit]

heh nice

[mystic kayak]

why not just enchantment table lang

:>

[thin summit]

beautiful

[mystic kayak]

linux needs to be better ez

[fathom osprey]

ye can just vi ./binary and if there's ELF in the begining then it's an elf binary

[hazy grotto]

When I switched from Windows to Linux I had no problem with executable file formats lol

[jagged stirrup]

linkin_park_playlist.mp3.exe

[lean timber]

Doesn't windows hide file extensions in file exploror by default?

[hazy grotto]

Yeah but it's pretty easy to reveal them

[stable dune]

🤡
file extensions are nothing but human aid
they don't mean anything to the computer

[stable dune]

file game.c

and u would get back the mimetype of that file

[mystic kayak]

bros rly a clown for not reading anything

[mystic kayak]

you -> 🤡🤡🤡

[lethal wyvern]

Only time I've actually cared about the lack of a suffix was trying to gitignore executable files, that did bug me a lot and I had to use a hack (glob ignore and unignore what I actually wanted)

Otherwise I genuinely don't give a fuq

Sometimes I'll do a little trolling and suffix with .com though 😈

[stable dune]

throwback to the DOS days

[lethal wyvern]

Sometimes I see it with shim scripts and I chuckle

On Windows that is

Actually it's usually .cmd nevermind

[mystic kayak]

same lol

on top of not being able to spot them sometimes in dolphin

[heady acorn]

just file game and it says what type of file it is

[heady acorn]

o nvm

you also reminded me of how newer win hides suffix by default so its the same anyways ☠️

and dont say it doesnt matter because file icon shows what type of file it is. because linux does that too but with mime types

[heady acorn]

You can file main.c and you will see ELF64

Ahh, somebody mentioned that before, sorry

[plush gate]

Can you do that easily to entire folder?

Like a list of files with typings on another column

[heady acorn]

i think file * would do. * would expand to all filenames in the current directory