if proper hardware is used same applies | Home Assistant | Page 1

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:46 PM

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Here

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:46 PM

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cool

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:47 PM

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Still, i'll use cable wherever i can

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:47 PM

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good for you, same as I

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:47 PM

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More reliable, and from a security point of view, this is soo much better in soo many ways

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For example, if your devices (server) ever connected to a open AP, i can just hijack that connection

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:48 PM

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I understand all of your points, but where I think we mismatch is the reality of HA usage

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:48 PM

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(depends on the configration ofcourse)

tribal furnace Apr 25, 2022, 1:49 PM

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A server should never be able to connect to a open ap... if u set-up properly than the doesn't happen

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:49 PM

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HA is indeed a framework and can be used almost anywhere, even big corpo can use it if they want. But statistics show that people don't usually build big systems that (if brought down) will impact anyone

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yes, sometimes wifi disconnects if radio conditions are bad. This shouldn't be noticed by most poeple

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:50 PM

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True, but there are quite some things that could go wrong, even if you just wanted to test with an open AP and then connect to a secured AP. You're server is still vulrnable

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if misconfigured

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:50 PM

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but if user wants to use wifi there is usually good reason for it - ie. existing infrastructure doesn't allow easy cable access

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:50 PM

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Ofcousre, if you cannot hardwire it, and wifi is the only solution go for it

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:51 PM

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good, so we agree 🙂

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:51 PM

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But if you have choice, go with cable

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:51 PM

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true

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:51 PM

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Then yes, we agree

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But running a server on wifi is still a bit scary. It works, but personally i would stay away from it

tribal furnace Apr 25, 2022, 1:52 PM

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Cons of wifi: Dropped signals, higher latency ,lowered speeds... so for HA no problem, if u can't use cable

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:53 PM

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dropped signals - retransmissions. Usually not a problem

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Higher latency - 100% true

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lowered speeds - in comparison to GbE, yes

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 1:53 PM

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My entire house system is connected to HA, losing connection to my AP is terrible

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An issue that is kinda critical, mold can form as my bathroom vents are controlled by humidity

tribal furnace Apr 25, 2022, 1:55 PM

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Yes, I have where I can everything connected to cable, but if my modem does not work, than my internet connection will be down. But I have wifi to connect to an emergency AP and still function.

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:55 PM

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mine too 🙂 except relay that powers up ventilation fans is controllable via zigbee

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I'd normally leave zigbee/ble gateway connected via wifi, but turns out gateway mobo has exposed ethernet 100Mb pins. So I went for it

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:57 PM

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tribal furnace Yes, I have where I can everything connected to cable, but if my modem does not ...

good idea, I was thinking of connecting USB modem and using it in emergencies

tribal furnace Apr 25, 2022, 1:57 PM

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That works aswell

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Using mobile internet

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 1:58 PM

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soon I'll consider doing this as ethernet cable connected to server is exposed trough the entire house. Gonna get a dog soon...

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can't imagine cable will be cut somewhere

tribal furnace Apr 25, 2022, 1:58 PM

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Hahaha

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I have my cables running in the basement to the whole house, also for outside I did burry the cable

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Working on a brand new networking /server setup though

tribal furnace Apr 25, 2022, 2:00 PM

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Nice

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 2:00 PM

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A lot of parts are still in transit

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Feels like forever haha

tribal furnace Apr 25, 2022, 2:00 PM

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I know lol

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 2:01 PM

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potent ice Working on a brand new networking /server setup though

is that the older AP Lite AC?

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 2:01 PM

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Its the pro

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 2:01 PM

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are you using openwrt or the stock ubi firmware?

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 2:01 PM

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UAP-AC-Pro

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stock ubi formware

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with the UDM Pro

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 2:02 PM

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oh, okay. I was using openwrt with the ac lite but it turns out half of the nvram gets unavailable after flash. Normally it is used as backup kernel image if main one is corrupted. Never managed to reclaim it 🙂

potent ice Apr 25, 2022, 2:03 PM

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Never tried running wrt on a ubi AP

earnest anchor Apr 25, 2022, 2:04 PM

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Pro version probably has all the missing functions of lite like 802.11r so there is less point in changing it

#if proper hardware is used same applies