#Russia's invasion of Ukraine
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4th!
I don't expect this to survive long, but it's probably for the better to have it in a thread at least š
they are likely to talk about it in #the-water-cooler non the less probably
also, it seems like tomorrow will be a very god absent day for the poor ukrain people
That's a reboot we don't need
xD
i mean, less people is a nice thing, as there are too many on the world, but hell no not like this
On the comment earlier, Russians are already hitting the streets. Theyāre just being arrested instead
theres lots of telegram groups where you can see life being at stake captured in video, imo this should stay where people can look it up if they want but not here...
alright mister
@yediotnews if anyone is interested, maybe you have others
Iām good to keep my brain from it
i would like to but its just a 10h drive for me and the place i work for has lots of clients in eastern europe
major banks to be exact
are we allowed to voice pro russian sentiment here, or will it result in a ban?
intelslavaz but its very pro russian
Is it true they destroyed the AN-225? š
Good on Sweden, but lol
#the-water-cooler message
that did not age well
Flat pack rocket launchers
probably strip the head of the screws too no doubt
Photographic evidence from a satellite has emerged that confirms reports that the worldās favorite aircraft, the AN-225, has been destroyed as part of the ruthless and unprovoked invasion by Russian forces into Ukraine. READ: Thousands watching US spy planes and tankers The ANTONOV Company had tweeted on February 26 that āWe donāt have accurate ...
yep, seems gone
life is not worth living now
it just landed here in linz 2 months ago
Be warned - itās Russian propaganda obviously and thereās a bit of gore
Trying to see if thereās a way to get some family out of western Ukraine but seems like theyād have to smuggle half the family out if they were to do it properly
getting women and children out of there is possible, friends of mine managed to get them here. men between 18-60 is a challenge
yeah, the 15 yo son won't leave by himself and the mother won't leave the older son, 19, by himself...
i think the father only just returned from Germany too from where he had been working there, now stuck in Ukraine
yes, ukrains president even said that
Theyāve blocked anyone of that age leaving havenāt they?
Ukrain has blocked any man 18-60 to leave the country
Russia is blocking anyone to leave
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Today a Conti member has begun leaking data with the message "Fuck the Russian government, Glory to Ukraine!"
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totally safe, downloading a tar from a ransomware gang and unzip it in terminal
But but it says itās not malware!

War is going to be visible from Poland
And if someone wants to auto translate, this is my friends attempt to help the refugees https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3312959572274435&id=100006812733901
Is your friend able to smuggle people? š
family in the west of Ukraine said that load from Kyiv have fled to their area, in their fancy SUV's, and have just been buying up all the beer and liquor and partying on. they've been telling the men to go back
its almost as if hes acting
Well, that's part of living in a free society as well. Not everyone is going to be first up volunteering for the front lines.
Also true
Google Lens is a savior with this kind of stuff. From Kƶln it seems
Pretty sure the only option for de-escalation right now is either assassination or coup
Time to use some of those raspberry pis
Lol 740, at least it isn't the 340
My partner wants a Volvo 740 lol
both sides put up ultimatums
russia demands the whole ukrain
ukrain wants to be left alone by russia as it was a month ago
dammit lol
Maybe US train Ukrainians ?
jeeez 65 Kilometer convoi on the way to kiyv
Thought it was 70km. Now
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shieet
So, some of you folk seem wise to the various Telegrams, any of them about coordinating refugee transport?
I'm essentially not busy and feel like I should be doing something.
I'm just following the cyber attacks one
Sounds like you should probably be in contact with the Polish (or Hungarian etc) officials to learn if there's something you can do to help them with
Indeed, found some Norwegian Facebook groups with some ad hoc info.
Essentially all I am offering is myself and a Mini, so I won't be solving the crisis single handedly
every helping hand counts
zelenskyy talks the talk it seems, pretty useless eu parliament today again
ive got a co-workers thats russian, and he recently said this in response to some things:
clever -- the point about Zelensky not being a Nazi (actually Stepan Bandera) sympathiser is missing the actual point.
It's the people who surround him, and also the mobilisation of Nazi sentiments.
You might want to watch this one: https://vimeo.com/252426896
Ukraine, the 'borderlands' between Russia and 'civilized' Europe is on fire. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war betweenā¦
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Wonder how many of those i can spin up on my server farm
Don't think work would approve of me spinning them up on the 35000 labs servers though
tell them you wanted to update the machines and copy pasted the wrong command
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okay I have no shame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwa2jK0xglk
our techs having a hard time to block several DDOS happening in general eastern europe today
iptables -P INPUT DROP
iptables -P FORWARD DROP
iptables -P OUTPUT DROP
and you're not very ddosable anymore
Cuts down on the S to an unacceptable level, though
https://banglanews24.com/english/national/news/bd/93765.details
Apparantly Russia shot a Indian Ship on an Ukranian port, which is stuck there since the war. Putin really loves to make himself more and more enemies
They also likely shot down 2 Romanian (NATO member) air crafts
Oh no
links plz
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Won't go down the rabbit hole again, after having watched that "Ukraine on Fire" film.
Designed to muddy the waters so people will go: "eh, maybe everyone sucks".
i will have to pass to my wife to read that
got to laugh how they claim Ukrainian Nationalists are the problem, but seems they are just Russian Nationalists judging from the parading of Russian flags IN the DPR which has its own flag...
I mean I don't discount that there might be some reactionary sentiments within the various nationalist movements in Ukraine that you wouldn't necessarily have over for dinner, but I put it forward that having a brooding neighbor with nostalgia for "the good old days" isn't conducive to reducing their clout in society.
Then there's the invasion :/
There is no denying there is some nazi style elements in Ukraine, but I think that goes for just about every country
so by that logic it is fair to invade any country you say
The Art of the Pretext
yes, any murder and destruction of property of innocent people is justified and fair
or, look in your own backyard first...
not what i was hinting at at all
Time to waltz into norway
steal your fibre
God knows we need it
my wife is ukranian, certainly not condoning russias actions or attempts of justification
damn australians coming here to take our optics
No one needs an eye of a bogan
Except maybe a witch
you'd be surprised how many times a bogan has saved my skin
Us Norwegians are just hoping someone doesn't get the idea that accidents of geography don't confer ownership of oil reserves and the resulting moneyz
We have atxbyea, so there's an invasion pretext right there

Apparently they are now trying to get rid of the 70km convoy, and are having great success
Link or didnt happen
Since you can actually read Norwegian
Thanks
Spoken norwegian on the other hand....
well, the problem with a giant convoy on a single, narrow road is that they're basically all sitting ducks
and there's nowhere to go
All together now, REVERSE!
There was an interesting twitter thread about tires. Not something I thought I would be saying
But it claimed that the russian wheeled vehicles had been standing still for so long and exposed to sun, that the tires can't handle being deflated for muddy conditions. So they have to stick to roads
I guess it'll take a while for the tires to rot
Doesn't help when the Russian army appears to be mostly forced children and teachers who have no military training and run out of fuel
but yeah, lol
Another commenter, claiming to be a tire nerd, said that the tires are cheap chinese copies of Michelin tires and not at all suited for extreme conditions lmao
Will be -10c next week in Ukraine, it will be hard for the people
the amusing part is that Russians are supposed to be kings of cold weather and adverse conditions
For some reason my dialect is very easy to understand how foreigners
part of how Russia beat back Germany
Yes, but again
They have sent a lot of non military it seems
Just picked up random people
I thought this bus was going to Disneyland
Basically
Cannot confirm, but you only spoke a few sentences š
Only norwegian i can understand atm is norsklƦrer karense š„²
Curious if the rumour about martial law will be true tomorrow in Russia
I was wondering about this and whether there was some ingenious trap to it somehow; something like attracting a majority of Ukrainian forces only to have it be a magic weapon that sends everyone to the phantom zone
guess not
And what they intend to use it for
Will come as a shock to them, a refugee on the news said her uncle in Russia didn't even believe there was a war
A special operation sounds more limited
Then suddenly, Martial Law, k spaciba, das vidanya
first, control the media
then the opposition's media
then the truth is whatever you want it to be
Nice of India to correct Russian news about Ukrainians using Indian exchange students as human shields
Not that that will be broadcast in Russia anyway
"Nothing is true. Everything is permitted." - KGB proverb ca 1200 AD.
We are now at the point in germany, that we try to deliver our trash to ukraine
For building barricades?
Old weapons which probably arent working anymore, so yes maybe there are suitable for building barricades
Maybe we find some old plane bombs, we could deliver them to ukraine instead of defusing them
Strelas are familiar to the Ukraine troops
Yes but it looks like they are probably defective
That I don't know about, but generally sending these types of weapons makes sense
Only have a german source
Well good thing that Ich spreche Deutsch and google translate also works
thank you, but paywall unfortunately
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Looord, guess that pilot wasn't following the news back during not Crimea, but the breakaway states in 2014 or when it was
"We are not targeting civilians". This is the extermination of Ukrainians. - https://v.redd.it/5jlpp30tl8l81
Wonder if Russia will close down internet tomorrow with the state of emergency
its a fake
Video title and the tiny bit of russian i understand match each other
russians in ukrain, who have run out of food since 3 to 4 days and no one is there to help them and they are still waiting on someone to pick them up
sleeping on the ground, feet wet, dont know what they shall do, thats how the russian army works
they are going to have to bulldoze entire blocks
I guess we should be glad they haven't taken those circumstances as a prompt to go loot and pillage
they are hardy creatures, just have to look at what they managed in WW2. Maybe the Russian millennial\ is a bit different tho
Hastening the development of callous killbots š¦
some do, some do have manners gladly
if i were them, i'd probably try to craft a white flag, walk into a village / city and try to talk with the locals if they might have an idea what to do
its sad to see, that so many young people are thrown into ukrain to fight, without even knowing why and if they refuse, they'll likely end up in a gulag
Well, I suppose we'll get to see if the Kremlin can get away with it, in this day and age.
they wont, but with putin on the trigger of nuclear weapons, its gonna be hard
I'm thinking more internally;
Whether regular people will stand for this
Soldiers are going to go home and tell of their experiences, even if the media tows the Government narrative
well, protestors are put into jail and i've heard, not confirmed tho, that they are singing a law, that any russian protesters are send as meat shields into the front of the war in ukrain
Yeah yeah, they are removing nazis
They can't have it both ways
human shields wouldn't be necessary in a limited special operation
Now, in a war mind you
i feel really sorry for all the innocent people in that war, but what can ya do
Even if protesters get a raw deal, there will be no luck forcing all these soldiers into secrecy once they come home
i really hope, that the russians will take out the ones in command themselves soon
Well hopefully it ends with a realization that wars aren't good. But it's probably going to get worse before that.
Interesting, apparently 200 Croatian mercenaries have arrived in Ukraine
Croatia denies it, they seem to be after Russians
Slava Ukraini!
Also I do enjoy that it seems like FSB is leaking information to the Ukrainian forces
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Yeah this showed up in my feed too š¤£
Fuuuuuuuuuuk
is that the huge plane they destroyed ?
looks like some engines may be reusable, they started building a second one but never finished it (also promised to finish it now that the original is destroyed)
Antonov 225
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A horrific leviathan of unimaginable power designed with merci...
Maybe its time to use it against the kremlin
Antonov was the only one too, rip
i saw it once and i really loved it as a kid
Scary rough quote from Putin: "If there is a nuclear war, we will go to heaven and you will just rot"
Haven't found a source cause I just heard it on a zoom session with the Economist; but god damn
Ah; roughly this: https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/putin-lied-about-his-nuclear-doctrine-and-promised-russians-that-they-would-go-to-heaven
Jeebus

After Russia blocked access to the Facebook network in her country - Twitter blocked access to surfers from Russia.
troll much
there goes youtube also
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I wonder if our economics will handle it. Yesterday fuel was 6.50 PLN, and the tax for the fuel is already suspended due to pandemic and inflation
Funny thing: we have whole empty estate in Warsaw , where Russian diplomacy lived during communism era in Poland. Now is plan to confiscate it, and place Ukrainian refugees there.
People call this estate Spy city
https://metrowarszawa.gazeta.pl/metrowarszawa/7,141637,28172921,szpiegowo-zostanie-przejete-przez-miasto-wobec-rosyjskiej.html
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We have had roughly the same fuel prices now for 3-4 months
Not very affected by the conflict currently
We had it lower , because the government suspended the VAT for fuel and food, but now it returned to a level from 3 months ago
I believe when the VAT will be back, it'll hit about 9 PLN
⬠and $ also reached record price,
its 2⬠here in germany, thats 9.70 PLN
Currently ā¬2.30 per liter here
yeah, my brother and i felt it in our bank accounts
A gentleman never tells
This is about that farmer dragging the piece of heavy machinery with his tractor? The news called it a "tank", but a) that seems ridiculous and b) the news does often think that everything is a tank
Looks American to me
I did post a translator earlier in the week for everyone to use
if its armored and has a turret, its a tank
it can also be a tank, if its a machine thats still running since 40 years, just like sovjet tech
An armoured fighting vehicle in the form of an APC or LAV isnāt a tank, regardless of turret or not
There has been a lot of it happening where the farmers steal the Russian vehicles
Ukrainian government even told citizens they don't have to declare the value on their taxes next year
dis a tƤnk
has tracks, as armor, has turret = tank
One fires bullets, the other a HE shell
yeah see, both fire shells
That oneās not a tank.
Ask anyone thatās done time in the military. Not a tank.
It would be like saying any pump action centre fire weapon is a shot gun. Just because it has a pump action and everyone knows that noise from movies where the actor is using a shot gun
yes
A pump action rifle is not a shot gun just because it has a stock and a pump
Likewise, an IFV isnāt a tank just because it has armour and tracks
And a turret
yes it is
well, its not, but its seen as one because it shares more similarities with tank, then with a car
Ok. Not going to change your mind, just hope you never try to convince someone who was tank crew and has had a few drinks that their vehicle is the same as an IFV.
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Tank Vs Tank - they can destroy each other. That thing above would be turned inside out instantly, it wouldnāt put a hole through a tanks armour
The armour is very light on those
Enough to deflect small arms fire and probably 1 RPG
Anti-war rally in Moscow - https://v.redd.it/ylutaeqd4kl81
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must be some jannies in the fsb or svr
This invasion, I don't even
These Russian soldiers wanted to get to the top of a building to recon the area. They used the elevator instead of the stairs, so the building manager turned off the power to the elevator between floors... Slava Ukraini! - https://i.redd.it/88bsoj0r8ml81.jpg
Dont use the elevator in case of war
This sign wasnt attached to the elevator is my guess
It's heartening that the blooper reel keeps extending it's playtime. Sort of
Dog bless Poland 
Iād be surprised that a Ukranian elevator even has a button to open it. The ones I had been in there had been pilfered for parts, burnt by locals, pissed in.
Interesting, visa and MasterCard is now suspending Russian users
That's got to hurt
Yes, vague
Hopefully sanctions will make the Russian people wake up soon
When all foreign news studios are now leaving because of the new law, they don't have a lot of in country reporting to rely on though
Whatās wrong with Russia-24? š
Doesnāt really matter though. They have their own internal card system
Russia is hosting an international counter terrorism convention this year along with Myanmar - that should be interesting. Friend of mine was meant to attend in Moscow, that won't be happening now.
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so just like the north korean internet then
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Apparently they tested it out a couple years ago
Gonna miss the qt Russians on onlyfans
well good that he isn't president anymore
Russia threatends with gas supply stop through nord stream 1, nice
district heating with waste incinerator combined š
maybe this will be the push that Germany needs to reach the 20th century š
it's not a solution for small villages and we still have lots of homes heating with gas but we slowly get there..
https://www.ressourcenmanagement.tirol/fileadmin/_processed_/6/c/csm_Bestandskarte_4b7c536d31.jpg
Natural gas š¤¢
Says the one from the country which got rich with oil and gas, before that, norway was poor
Norway was never poor
i think they still have the same amount of it, they dont touch it
A third of the population emigrated to the US before the gravy train came in
At least that's a notion I have kept since childhood
They export a lot of it
yeah could be a myth, I'm a notorious LIAR
Its great challenge for Norway to keep its wealth through Energiewende, cause then they are no longer able to live from their natural ressources. And they do not have a lot of industry cause their natural ressources have killed it, as it mostly happens
Okay i see not that poor, as i thought. Listened too much to norwegians š¬
Itās not that bad - itās like planet earth ripped a big fart and we can use it. Braaaaap
Are we gonna have to ban the letter Z in the alphabet?
Curious if the stock market will open tomorrow announced
Guessing not
And if the internet will be shut down on Friday as rumoured
The idiots tried to use the Era cryptophones in Kharkiv, after destroying many 3g cell towers and also replacing others with stingrays. Era needs 3g/4g to communicate.
The Russian army is equipped with secure phones that can't work in areas where the Russian army operates.
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Well, if they are going to keep going, a steady stream of own goals is much appreciated
Someone needs to explain monke Putin to me
Interesting, the US might stop buying russian oil today
And shell has closed all gas stations in Russia
And stopped trading russian oil
Russian oil exports
Let's not kid ourselves, it's Europe that'll pay the price for the sanctions
Even Norway imports 30% of what the US does š
Or to put it in other words, Norway will take 20x the price hit per capita compared to the US
And now whole world said that is our decision , if we will give Mig's for Ukrainians
Nice. Push out smallest mate against bad guys
destination countries for "exports of mineral fuels, mineral oils and their distillation" (source: https://oec.world/en/profile/country/rus?depthSelector1=HS2Depth)
So what Biden is doing is stopping imports for something they aren't importing anyway
Okay but maybe only distillation products, norway has enough oil for itself
A lot of those imports are to distill them in Europe (afaik)
I wonder why still goes there trucks with goods to Belarus from Germany . Via Poland. Different stuff, spare parts, other, whatever. Are there sanctions or not?
One trustworthy guy showed it on his Instagram
I only meant Norway
What I mean is that Norway probably has high quality distillation that they can offer. Same for Finland and I very much assume that's what Netherlands is also doing
So they import russian oil and distill it and sell on
But that means that it should not have a great impact in norway to stop it
No instagram here
Things always even out for Norway Inc.
Not for the economy as a whole, but for those specific companies it could cause issues or at least lower their margins
It's the gas imports that Europe will struggle with as that can't be replaced in short notice without Germans freezing
Just log down swartzwald
Freezing is the one thing no electric power a whole different
de-mothball Nuclear plants
One Black Out and then there will be civil war here in germany
Repower brown coal power plants before that š
Not my fault that it is on the Instagram actually , and you don't like it
No one said i do not like it(yet)
They could just turn the nuclear plants that they still have running back on, but nah š
That's not important anyway, truth is there is big queue of trucks on Polish border to Belarus. With Belarus and Russian license plates, full of food, medical supply, spare parts and so. From the west. And our governments doing nothing about it
I dunno why even the borders aren't closed
We were the experts in nuclear power plant technology, now weāre left behind.
Someone needs to put on a Montage soundtrack on the cassette player and knock out practical Fusion Power technology, post haste
Which would pretty much negate the use of war for resources, in my utopian opinion.
Yeah then its water or space
Space plox
Our only nuclear power plant looks like this
I'm a weeb, so I want Gundams
It's under construction last 45 years
Is the plan to just dump the core in a lake, if anything goes wrong?
The next to me, and it was shut down last year
Not so clever move?
In my opinion, Nuclear is perfectly fine; considering other options
It would have been the better decision to first shut down other conventional power plants before the nuclear ones here in germany
Well its important not to have such construction errors like the one in fukushima and the long time disposal is a big problem
Fukushima's main issue, afaik was that they put the backup generators for the cooling rig was flooded
Other than that, the reactors weren't damaged during the earthquakes
Nah, it's safe, you can hit with tank ammo and nothing happens
Also the spent fuel rods were left over in the reactors
so that amplified the cockup when things went wrong
Maybe one time we have technologies to after use the old fuel from the conventional nuclear power plants, that would be nice. But conventional nuclear power plants do not have a long time future
They could have taken the spent fuel out and moved it somewhere else, but everyone is a NIMBY when it comes to hosting Nuclear waste storage sites
But to bridge technology to renewable etc its an option
Fusion is very difficult to achieve so maybe no āgive it to everyoneā. And just to give people technology hasnt worked so far
- Profit!
Looks like wind turbine isn't an option too, problem with recycling old propellers, and since we (and You too) have it everywhere, there started floods and hurricanes
Is that the Butterfly Effect, for the Green Age?
Dunno
These Problems are not solveable in one day, makes one sceptical if everything works out at the pace with that EU want to move know
And atm?
Cyber attacks š±
Wow
An hour without Discord. I know how the Ukrainians must feel now
Wasnt sure if discord is down or local internet problem
Downtime on Discord could inconvenience some volunteer groups, but it probably wasn't that targeted
Spotify was down too?
didnt hear any of it
Had short skips in the tracks
Finally coca cola leaves russia
Weāve got plenty to give
Do you come from a land of plenty?
_I'm only gonna bless the rains down in Africa _
This looks like a land of plenty plenty of water
Pepsi is out too now
Gogo
Oh Starbucks too
Mc donalds also
So things that do not really have an effect on anyone outside of Moscow or St Petersburg
they're crazy
Our state broadcaster's correspondent down in Rostov, close to the Russia-Ukraine border did his live updates overlooking a riverside MC Donald's, before everyone left for legal reasons.
They're what the rest of us would hope to be in the same situation.
I'm pretty sure I would fall short...
Sony is out, amazon prime is out
Soon there will be nothing left
It will be north Korea
yes
They were already building their own Intranet of sorts
Putin is at a disadvantage when it comes to the bad haircut, tho
it will be funny tho, when they run out of chips for their computers or electrical devices in general
adidas banning russia will ruin them slowly
Bild has the scoop, though.
Zelensky's putting neutrality on the table
https://m.bild.de/politik/ausland/politik-ausland/ukraine-praesident-selenskyj-im-bild-interview-wir-sterben-auch-fuer-euch-79402450.bildMobile.html###wt_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bild.de%2Fpolitik%2Fausland%2Fpolitik-ausland%2Fukraine-praesident-selenskyj-im-bild-interview-wir-sterben-auch-fuer-euch-79402450.bild.html&wt_t=1646866028647
Bild in Sicht, downvote Pflicht
Theyāre prepared for a western cut off, internal banking/ payment/ card transaction scheme (though tbh most countries have one of these), intranet, supplies through China, etc
can u read that?
and they do not rely on the west. the average Russian does not have Netflix and Youtube Premium, nor do they order from Amazon and eat out at Maccas
They probably rely more than we know
not that it matters since their income and monetary values are close to zero now, so they can't buy much from the west
Had to rejigger my Nick so I don't come off as Putin-jugend
Went from MadaoZ, a general reference to almost every long running anime to āmadao, Turn-A madao which is a Gundam reference
Well, madao itself is Gintama reference
SHINPACHIIIIIII
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Reminds me, I need to convert all my Goblin Slayer books to kindle format
I'm pretty sure his name is ć”ć¬ć
I know that
Shinji approves
BBC report from Kharkiv. Pretty horrific images so keep in mind ||https://fxtwitter.com/sommervilletv/status/1502000265490227206||
Drove a 22 year old Kharkivian student home from volunteering yesterday; he's looking for transport back to Ukraine to join the war effort...
Nothing special, Langhus to Oslo
While I was looking to go off questing in Europe I got roped into local efforts in stead
I have 20+ access points laying in boxes if that can help in any way 
Wahh, well I will spread that up the flag pole, thanks :D
Interesting read on the complex cause of this conflict https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea Russell Brand has an interesting take on it: The IMF is basically doing in public what the CIA used to do privately. Destabilising governments with "strings attached" loans. https://youtu.be/CxMVcrvtqqs
Time to come visit
I'm firmly in the blue pill camp on all of these interesting takes, also I tried to watch one of Russel's vidoes and it's all too high octane mad dash words per minute for me.
At the end of the day, one party decided to take the conflict into the exchange of bullets and ammo, and threats of nuclear war
Yeah Russell's delivery method isn't for everyone, which was why I lead with the article link. It is logically written and well referenced.
My main problem with getting bogged down in whether Euro-Maidan was a neo-nazi CIA in IMF's clothing coup is that I wonder what good it is to people fleeing invasion and having their country bombed for an ever evolving gaggle of ostensibly altruistic reasons, according to the Kremlin.
I can't shake the feeling that the result is to make us go: Oh, well Happy Hunting, Mr Putin.
I'm not saying this is you, Russell and the Jacobin's motivation; but I still think it's a possible end result to consider.
For me, I am in rally around the flag mode. Russia is on our northern border and the conflict is happening next to two NATO allies. The scope for miscalculations and just something going terribly wrong under the cover of the fog of war has us at the brink. A clear posture is necessary. Discussion of bygones are for later, imho
Did they turn off the internet yesterday?
𤯠Crikey! No. That is not the intention of either source. It is about education and enlightenment to prevent this sort of atrocity happening again.
Obligatory Oberfail Comment
To be fair it's the proximity this time around that has me on edge.
I will have to remember this sensation for when things happen outside my field of vision.
Also for this topic, please refrain from tags. I'll read up on this thread any time I feel morose š
good one :D
Good evil?
IMF pretty much is the CIA. USAID (not an aid organisation at all, US Agency for International Development) was also heavily involved in kicking off these ārevolutionsā in Ukraine, along with some Soros funding as well naturally. US foreign policy, which influences many of its allies, is rotten to the core.
USA at fault go figure
Given that: I'd hate to see how Russia approaches a situation that is it's fault.
Jesaus. It's like something from First Dog On The Moon.
I was helping with whole refugee situation as voulonteer driver. Our company gave us cars and the fuel.
It's difficult. They've told me their stories, it's more than few pictures in a TV. And don't believe the news, here in Poland whole humanitarian support is made by people , government don't coordinate it. No one does. It's total mess, but somehow it works
All big cities are full, we have no place for refugees. We ar relocating them to smaller ones
But they are arriving to the big ones
The Polish people are stepping up in a big way š¤
but we are exhausted a bit, time for governments move
Grassroots campaigns are trying to get a good stream of refugees to Norway as well, but some missteps in early efforts has caused a bad rep, so there is a lot of apprehension about getting into cars and buses to random countries
The organisation gets better gradually but the news of good things doesn't spread nearly as far and wide as the bad
They really has no idea where they want to go.
Most of them won't go so far, they hope that the war will be over soon
That makes sense. Especially with the men having to stay. Going further away is probably not an easy decision to make.
Curious is polish and Ukrainian close enough to understand each other @cold yoke ?
Barely. But i somehow reminded my Russian lessons from school, it was obligatory long time ago. And every Ukrainians know russian
Ah, I've not studied a lot of eastern european languages
I only know the swear words and the greetings
Gin Dobre, Gin Dobrevich, Kurwa
etc
Problem is that younger poles, who actually helps as voulonteers , didn't learn Russian, so there's a problem
English doesn't help, younger Ukrainian knows the basis, but most of refugees are mid aged women and little kids
And also old people
There is a woman, who helps with translations, she speaks fluent Russian, i think she is professional translator. She's there from the beginning of refugee Crysis, every single day , and no one pays her
If I had any usable skills I would too, unfortunatly the best I can do is currently nothing since private households aren't allowed to accept refugees here yet
mentioned it to the wife the other day we have a spare room, but 
they are working on it now though
Our government promised 40pln per day per person for everyone who accept refugees ar private hosehold
oh, that isn't much
It isnt. Two 0.5l bottles of poor vodka .However, it's impossible to get that money yet, since there's no regulation
That because of the Soviet Union making it compulsory?
Like being close to it
Also lmao at measuring it in vodka
Yeah 2 bottles of poor vodka in norway is worth a fortune
Donāt know about Poland as it wasnāt in the USSR, but in Ukraine it was all that was spoken in school up until about the late 80ās maybe 1990. My wife said she remembers they stopped teaching in Russian there around the time she started school which was around then.
Yeah I meant being close to poland whether that influenced it being compulsory. Makes sense inside the USSR itself
Do we need a thread specifically for equivocating about how the war is somehow just comeuppance for the US, cause hurting Ukrainians is the best way to go about this somehow?
Guess l am the only one that sees that possible niche
Its like Poland wasn't formally part of USSR but in the fact we were .
This one I'm too boomer to get?
The Ukranian foreign reddit legion thinking theyāre just heading there to be super soldiers of call of duty. Soldiering comes with a lot of shitty jobs like digging holes for days on end.
I'm sure you can express your point of view better than that
"The Ukranian foreign reddit legion" the what now?
No doubt thought the same
Putin's really started to weaken during this time.. - https://i.redd.it/53z6y2l5vdn81.png
Anyone can look like anything in a picture
Yeah I can look attractive in one for example š
Itās a meme
A few rumours going around that he has cancer or something else debilitating - probably just rumours tho
Youād think Russia would just buy their drones off AliExpress like they did their radios.
They did (or still do?) use Chinese cheap radios, there was a major corruption scandal in Russian army. Someone took a bunch of money for next gen encrypted communication system called R-187-P1 Azart and imported some cheapo crap , the "factory" in Russia just replaced stickers on them. I think some military was arrested, including colonel Arslanov and gen. Ogloblin
The trials of ruling a cleptocracy.
When the people at the top get their beaks wet, the inclination to defraud trickles down the ranks.
While I mostly want the war to be over, a decisive blow to the autocratic patronage state model would be a silver lining to this grim cloud
Considering the Russians are using regular Ukraninan SIM cards to relay information to troops, and a lot of it is going unecrypted
nothing suprises me at this point
All post-soviet countries are more or less cleptocracy, corruption and defrauding. I think we still were there about 15-10 years ago. Ukraine is still there. I heard that refugees on the border could pay to not wait in queue.
I can tell you unbelievable stories about corruption during communism era, but this is not the proper channel
John Deere tanks
you are a really dirty Nabelfussel
Sorry i'm just as nabelfussel born, i am the living evidence, god has humor
I love that the Ukrainian government has officially said that any Russian property that Ukrainian farmer sieze doesn't have to be declared on taxes this year
I had some ticket inspectors pocket my āfineā for not validating my ticket on a bus in Krakow about 12 years ago. I think at a low level itās still quite common. My family paid off the doctors for extra care when I wound up in a hospital in Ukraine around that same time.
rm -rf /
problem solved, now they have free storage again
You forgot --no-preserve-root
We need to remember the tragedy of war and I can speak as I have been thru three. It is hell. This is a soldier saving circ
A puppy sorry
Police was corrupted too, you could drive drunk as hell, and since you didn't kill anyone, you could pay to leave you free. But now there are cameras everywhere, and journalists just love corruption cases, so everyone scares to take money
I'm astonished how this managed to unify Europe as well. We can't agree on most things either, but yet Putin managed to push everyone else on one side. You gotta applaud that
At the same time it is scary how much are helping and assisting a European country, yet Syria remains a wasteland
Our values aren't exactly consistent
This feels closer to home, but everyone would do well to remember these feelings and support efforts to make humanitarian aid be a priority, at least on par with defense spending.
Consistently, even when Crisis X has slipped off the front pages.
While it would be a while before the data would become available to the public, Anonymous assured its followers on Twitter that it would be "worth the wait."
You spent much time in the Middle East?
None
Itās all a wasteland my friend
Even if they throw a facade of fancy skyscrapers over it
So just like Australia then
Hey now! It's not all western suburbs wasteland. We have some interesting fauna too. Like snakes, and spiders, and crocodiles, and sharks, and dropbears.
Deadly, all
Donāt forget the politicians
Corrupted to shreds you say
An insane story of code being used as a weapon
A huge project just pushed out a new version that wipes your hard drive if your IP is from Belarus/Russia
This project is downloaded 1 Million+ times a week
It's now a NATIONAL security issue ranked 9.8/10 in severity
The story:
That's some scorched earth shit.
I feel like the collateral damage might not serve the cause of the betterment of humanity
Lavrov commending fox news, what a shock
Is he blaming the Biden administration for stopping the peace negotiations which require "minimal demands" from Ukraine? Just half of their country and demilitarization, no biggie.
All your base are belong to us
This article is in no way ominous for the future at all:
https://www-aftenposten-no.translate.goog/verden/i/6602QQ/her-paagaar-operasjon-hjernevask-av-millioner-av-russiske-barn?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp
"Brainwashing operation is in progress"
The truth died first, as on every war.
Also true
There is also that line that's roughly: "Russia might be accused of using a dirty bomb in the future."
Not liking this at all
Makes my movie-plot brain think they took Chernobyl early in the campaign for specific purposes
i forget the source, but i saw claims by russia that urkraine had plans for biological warfare
and that russia usually makes up such false evidence, to justify them doing the same thing in retaliation
4D Chess
The bio-weapons thing I honestly thought was more to make sure the rhetoric matches up with things the West has used during the build-up to various wars in the past.
Like Iraq, which I guess is what atxbyea is alluding to as well
There is of course that one theory about the Russian Convoy that was attacked in Iraq just before the fall of Baghdad, that they made off with the weapons; for sneaky cover-up reasons
Pink fields of Moscow
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Is that inappropriate? I can't tell.
I'm not 14, so not sure
Pink wojak is the meme of a dude losing money on crypto / stocks. The pink field refers to the business board of 4chan being all threads of pink wojaks because of a market crash. Hence my prediction of the reaction investors will have when the market opens.
In happier times the Mosin-Nagant calls forth memories of that old fogey sniper character in Metal Gear Solid 3
Russian ātacticalā helmet is actually a WWII ātin canā... already punctured
a helmet with a bullet hole in it, doesnt inspire a lot of confidence....
If you had trouble beating him you could save the game, wait a couple of days and he'd die of old age
Grim reminder that the helmet is a hand-me-down
yeah
Reuse, Reduce, as is the motto of our era
at least falling rocks and wooden chips wont hurt a lot
to be fair, a bullet will likely go through a Kevlar helmet as well, does provide a better chance of survival of course but I have seen them go straight through.
These seem a bit too memey to be real. But meet the 100 year old Maxim gun! https://i.imgur.com/wa3VqbT.jpeg
āwould be a prize for foreign intelligence agenciesā - as if the CIA hasnāt already taken first place on that one
That country would be crawling with FIS
#Russia In the center of Moscow, somebody threw a Molotov cocktail into the Kremlin wall.
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"We were the last journalists in Mariupol. Now there are none." The remarkable story of how an @AP team hid from Russian troops in a hospital, wearing surgical scrubs, to continue telling the world of the city's destruction. https://t.co/nAlsyl6rpN
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No wonder the Russian generals are easy to spot and snipe
This is all I imagine in my head
Good movie (Death of Stalin)
Funnily enough banned in Russia which made it even more popular there
Yea the scarcity principle at its best
Now i have an earwig
poor cat





