#What do ppl use for browsing

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celest pilot
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I've been testing Orion recently. It's in Beta still, built off WebKit so it's Apple only, but it's been pretty decent for me so far. One of its biggest perks is that you can install both Chrome and FF extensions in it.

I was using Vivaldi before. I'm not sure what makes me unhappy with it originally but I really need container profiles and Orion provides that.

buoyant bear
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I heard tech YouTubers promote opera

celest pilot
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Yeah, Opera put a ton of marketing money behind their promotion, specifically for Opera GX.

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For some context: I worked on the Edge browser team at Microsoft prior to my role here - browsers are my one weird expertise. 😂

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There's another independent browser being built up called Ladybird. I met those guys last year at GitHub Universe. It didn't load Home Assistant dashboards last we looked, though.

buoyant bear
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Oh cool

honest lintel
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I understand the arguments about Chrome not being as private as other browsers, but I also think security is one consideration

celest pilot
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I went with Orion because in general you can trust the security of WebKit. They're model of making money isn't advertising but bootstrapped from their community. I pay them for their search engine Kagi so that I don't have AI slop fed to me first (even DDG has been serving slop), so it made sense for me to try out Orion.

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Vivaldi is built off chromium and regularly syncs - you shouldn't have issues with most chromium browsers as long as they sync security fixes from the project.

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shouldn't being a heavy lifter here

simple sequoia
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I use Firefox specifically to avoid chromium browsers and to support the standards, works well for most everything

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I also consider it more open source than chromium considering the mega Corp backing for the latter (and their love of abusing their market share)

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I used OG Edge for a while until it went chromium then I ditched it

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(plus Firefox on Android has extensions and ublock is supported which is BOSS)

honest lintel
buoyant bear
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I just downloaded it and it was easy setup to bring chrome (or edge) over

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It has a dark mode

celest pilot
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Vivaldi is a decent browser for the most part, it just wasn't working for me overall in my daily driving at work.

honest lintel
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Just realized I'd need to get an entirely new laptop if I want to fully switch because I have a Chromebook lol

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And I don't want to enable Android apps on it again because it slows everything down

celest pilot
honest lintel
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Ngl I really like this Chromebook

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HP Chromebook 15. Got it back in 2019 for like 400 USD. It was the first one with a numeric keypad. 1080p touchscreen, backlit keyboard, decent specs for the price, great battery life

buoyant bear
celest pilot
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My main sticking point was the profile containers. I maintain 2 different brands on social right now and need to access them via native webpages because I don't want to aggregate community messages from a community that respects data privacy. Logging in and out of accounts when I need to crosspost was fucking annoying. I found out Orion has contained profiles so I decided to give it a test.

The other thing I didn't like is how they do their mail client implementation, which I was using for my personal email. Sometimes it'd pop out into another window, and if something like that is open in another window it won't let you access it. It also doesn't tell you which window it's in, but still let you choose it in the tabs. Annoying. Workable, but annoying.

buoyant bear
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Oh

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I thought there were selfhosted email apps

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Or is that going too far

celest pilot
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I hadn't considered them, tbh!

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Was trying out an all in one because Vivaldi offered it. Turns out I don't care! 😂

buoyant bear
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lol

harsh totem
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Firefox (tab groups my beloved) and Vivaldi

celest pilot
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Orion has tree style tabs. BongoCatEyes

harsh totem
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I never got into tree tabs for some reason. I do love tab groups though.

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I have this extension which I really like - it auto-creates a new tab group for each tab you open and auto-deletes it x minutes after the tab is closed https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-containers/

Temporary Containers – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)

Download Temporary Containers for Firefox. Open tabs, websites, and links in automatically managed disposable containers which isolate the data websites store (cookies, storage, and more) from each other, enhancing your privacy and security while you browse.

simple sequoia
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I keep hundreds of tabs open at any given time

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Websites only exist in my cache, forever gone from the Internet for how long they stay around

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Tab trees would probably just make that worse, to thousands of tabs open

buoyant bear
simple sequoia
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Though I should also say ope missed a key word while reading that, it auto deletes the group, not the tab once inactive

harsh totem
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Each tab is in its own group

celest pilot
# buoyant bear What does that mean

A lot of people who use FF like tree style tabs, which is kind of like group tabs but they group up under a "starting" tab instead of all grouping together.

I missed tab groups until I discovered Orion's ability to have "windows" in one window. That's how I group my tabs now.