#Hardware Discussions
red ridge
We'll continue this conversation about it here to stop overfilling the main channel
but to answer your question @keen coral I am willing to take that into consideration. My plan is to use my old 3770K system where possible to run Ollama, and maybe some other stuff I can offload to it (it has 16GB RAM and a GTX 760), with Linux as its main boot OS. But having something else to run the main HAOS stuff. My Pi 3B will run PiHole for adblocking, with a VPN setup on it to ensure when out and about on my MacBook or Chromebook, they still get the PiHole treatment
and @inner summit nope, I don't have a server currently I can use. I have that old 3770K machine but that's already been assigned a specific task.
keen coral
I often recommend virtualization: https://gist.github.com/Impact123/c23c36eafe1672ec056233e450a86ae2
No need to have a different hardware to run HAOS on and it has many other benefits.
red ridge
I'd rather use specific hardware. There's a reasonable possibility I won't be able to use the 3770K machine all that much. I'd need something low power (in terms of wattage) and low size (my 3770K machine is ATX), in order to appease my mum
keen coral
N100s can do with 4-8W. At idle that is.
inner summit
I run HA/Frigate/Bunch of other containers all on the same N100
red ridge
and tbh, I'd be more likely to look at a Ryzen myself
inner summit
any cameras? now or in the future to maybe be pipped into HA?
red ridge
my absolute stonker of a dual PC setup is a Ryzen 9 5900X main ATX machine (running Windows 11), and a Ryzen 7 5700G secondary ITX machine (on Pop_OS)
Yes, they're being powered by the same PSU, and are in the same case
keen coral
Just for reference/comparison here's one of my 5700G PVE hosts. It's not doing anything right now but it also has a IPMI mainboard.
red ridge
I would potentially add cameras in the future, we already have a Nest Video Doorbell
I'd probably put a 2TB SSD in the machine though
inner summit
if there are cameras to be involved and won't have the ability to add a dedicated gpu I would suggest going intel. quicksync is a beast
red ridge
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-cubi-nuc-1m-intel-core-i3-100u-barebone-nuc-sff-mini-computer-htpc-no-ram-no-storage-no-os something like that?
livid charm
AMD is not great for low idle power btw
red ridge
hmm, but isn't ARM the way to go for low idle power?
keen coral
AMD is not great for low idle power btw
Depends on the type of CPU. the G models are okay. For the chiplet ones I have to agree.
livid charm
Low budget intel is ok too
inner summit
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi-cubi-nuc-1m-intel-core-i3-100u-barebone-nuc-...
that price is absurd.
red ridge
that price is absurd.
looks like it doesn't come with RAM or storage either
inner summit
looks like it doesn't come with RAM or storage either
N100 is cheaper and actually better in some areas
red ridge
like what areas?
livid charm
Just dont buy anything expensive hw wise if you're only going to run HA. HA runs single threaded. It's wasted compute
inner summit
heck right now there are tons of N100 mini pc's on sale for black friday as low as like 130 bucks
inner summit
like what areas?
well the N100 uses less power for one, has more abilities with encoding/decoding
red ridge
I'd be getting one new though, don't plan to go used
livid charm
I buy all my PC parts used, saved me thousands over the years 😄
red ridge
urgh, single channel RAM
inner summit
don't worry about that
the machine will be able to handle HA and all the other stuff you want to tie into HA.. except that voice crap you mentioned. in that case I think someone was talking like that path requires a pretty beefy machine
beefy gpu i mean
red ridge
yeah. I was going to offload that to something else
inner summit
then the mini pc will work just fine, more than fine
red ridge
Hmm... so it sounds like I'll need to replace the GTX 760 in my old machine to a 4090
though in fairness at least at first I'll stick to Google Assistant & maybe Siri
They'd be able to handle the smarts of the voice communication between the user and HA, and that would help keep things down. I'd only need voice for Level 4/5 events (Error/Fatal), which I'd be getting the HA to call me to tell me what's busted
And yes, the calls for the more serious issues is something I am dead set on having
in case you're wondering, that's going to be one of the core things for me. I have a very set in my mind way I want the levels to be recorded and processed by the HA
mental coyote
I run HA/Frigate/Bunch of other containers all on the same N100
No local voice you have?
Calls. Like a call and you pick up and a voice tells whats wrong?
inner summit
No local voice you have?
I don't use any of the voice stuff. dabbed with the GA stuff but found it annoying
red ridge
yeah, I will have some of the voice stuff
but since I'm only gonna have it ring me (else it'll be Google Assistant and Siri doing the work)... maybe I can get away with only needing TTS
inner summit
you know in both android and ios you can set custom text message sounds. you could just text yourself whatever it would be a million times easier to accomplish and reliable than this voice stuff
red ridge
you know in both android and ios you can set custom text message sounds. you cou...
I specifically want the voice for it. Non-negotiable
It'd use VoIP though, so as not to incur fees for an extra phone line
It's to do with the workflow I'm setting out that I specifically want (and am dead set on)
And it involves different event levels having different responses. The phone call is for the highest level events (lower levels would simply be a push notification). Though it will also have fallback methods if the phone call wasn't answered
Thus, please stop trying to get me to change away from the voice stuff. I'm not changing and it just wastes everyone's time when you try to convince me to not use voice.
