#Okay fair enough, hard to get some

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fleet basalt
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Really it comes down to country, budget, and goals

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North America's prices for Z-Wave are more reasonable than the rest of the world, where Zigbee devices can be 1/3 or even 1/4 of Z-Wave prices

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However, in high density housing the 2.4 GHz band is likely to be saturated, so Z-Wave will be more reliable

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For me, I'm in the UK and in a detatched house, so Zigbee made far more sense, particularly with a target of over 100 Zigbee or Z-Wave devices

tiny tundra
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I'm in the Netherlands in a row house. Don't know about the 2.4 since most use the 5g band here so would maybe need to check with a signal app to check how saturated the band really is here. Prices are definitely up there for the Z wave stuff though and I've noticed that the selection isn't very big. So was wondering if stuff from say Aqara might be of such quality that going zigbee wouldn't pose a problem at all

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Would just hate to have bought the stuff and for it to not be reliable once it's in the walls

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But the Z wave security people are always teetering about is a little too much hearsay imo since they both have the 128 bit encryption setup. So it's hard to get people that have actually used both systems with quality brand equipment.

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And the thing that people say z wave is slower... idk what to make of that for real case scenarios honestly

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I'd def not have a 100 devices though, I think closer to maybe 30

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Thanks for the insights

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think I'll prob go with zigbee

fleet basalt
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My own mesh is largely a mix of Innr and Aqara

tiny tundra
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Do you evere have problems with certain devices becoming unresponsive or dropping out of the mesh?

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Or is it just stable like hardwired lights

fleet basalt
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Not really, only when the batteries die

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Then again, there's rules to follow - pinned over in the #zigbee-archived channel - for a good experience

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Also, I don't own the brands known to cause problems - Osram, Sonoff, Tuya

tiny tundra
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Sounds good so far, heard it's best not to mix the two z wave and zigbee too much and do have tuya lights from action at home via wifi

fleet basalt
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Eh, you can have both - I did for long enough - you just have to build out both meshes

tiny tundra
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Okay

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Thanks I think going with Aqara seems like a safe bet from what i can tell rn

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So i'll prob order some things with them, thanks for the advice was really helpful.

fleet basalt
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Most of my mesh is Aqara - where you can buy the E1/T1/P1 ranges rather than the original

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They cost slightly more, but they're Zigbee 3.0 and better behaved

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(also longer battery life)

tiny tundra
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Yeah the new sensors seem great

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I think it's the P2 and fp2?

fleet basalt
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The FP2 is WiFi from memory

tiny tundra
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Yah seems so

fleet basalt
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Aqara is a mix of Zigbee, WiFi, and probably Thread/Matter

tiny tundra
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p2 then

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Okay will need to read the label carefully then