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tropic python
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Why not go with something local - like the Xiaomi Aqara Zigbee sensors?

WiFi devices usually have terrible battery life, and cloud based is terrible

upbeat pond
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Aquara was something I saw referenced for another project, but then I also saw that I'd need multiple new bridges to get it to work, which might negate the plan

tropic python
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Well, no

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I've got about a hundred Zigbee devices, from over a dozen manufacturers, all on one mesh

upbeat pond
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Okay, so I'm familiar with zigbee as a protocol that a lot of what i have uses, and i use a hue bridge for the link at home. I haven't messed with the native hardware before, so I'd need to do some research.

But would I be able to have HACS control two meshes in two different locations at once? Since part of the stuff that I'm trying to do is control devices at my sisters programatically (sunrise/sunset based, temp/humidy controls) that's why I was looking at a cloud capable solution to help the info get from her house to mine

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Or would I actually be looking at two different hacs installs?

tropic python
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HACS ... you keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means ๐Ÿ˜‰

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upbeat pond
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oh, duh

tropic python
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HA != HACS

upbeat pond
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yeah

tropic python
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HA can control lots of things, all unrelated

upbeat pond
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i'm still learning the proper terms, sorry

tropic python
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No worries

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You can even set up one local HA install in her house, and one in yours, and have the two communicate

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That'd be better than making her house rely on yours

upbeat pond
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i was thinking something similar to that as an alternative, even if they didn't communicate with each other. it's not like I can't put the UI on the internet and http into it from home

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but then I need hardware at her house that I was trying to see if I could avoid. But that's mostly a one time cost anyway

tropic python
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The downside of making her house rely on yours is that if either lose internet her house goes dumb

upbeat pond
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true, i don't think that would have been a huge concern, since we both have pretty good uptime and we're only a couple miles away

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I told her I'm just researching at this point

tropic python
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Also means you can mess about with your HA and not have her calling you to find out why her house doesn't work ๐Ÿ˜›

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Personally (and others will echo this), go local where you can - avoid anything with a cloud dependancy unless you've no other reasonable choice

upbeat pond
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yeah, right now it's just automation for a few grow lights that Meross doesn't have in their app. Gods their routines app sucks

tropic python
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That removes the risks of a company going under, closing their API, or doing something else dumb - like many have done

upbeat pond
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oh, yeah, I definitely get that

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See also: Get Cync! It's the best for no neutral dimmers!

Also Cync: our API isn't Zigbee compatable even if we say it is and the wifi is shoddy even though the home's wifi antenna is 6 feet away

tropic python
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Oh yeah, people here will tell you all about Osram (their Zigbee 1.2 stuff breaks meshes), Tuya (maybe it works, maybe it won't), Sonoff (many of their devices are actively terrible Zigbee routers), and so on

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The list of known good manufacturers is shorter than the list of those that have a clue

upbeat pond
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i want to rip that thing out of the wall, but it's the only thing i know that works at all, and at all is better than not at all

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if i could i'd rerun the wiring to add a neutral. damn old rentals

tropic python
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The good news is that now you're here people can help you find better alternatives

upbeat pond
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yeah

upbeat pond
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Oh, so I ended up ordering a Skyconnect for the sister's house, realized that that have a minipc that was gifted and never used, and I have some zigbee outlets and temp/humidity sensors i'm going to buy when they go on sale in a couple of days

tight marten
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Anyone else seeing CYNC error messages in their logs? This error originated from a custom integration.

Logger: custom_components.cync_lights.cync_hub
Source: custom_components/cync_lights/cync_hub.py:106
integration: Cync Lights (documentation)
First occurred: June 7, 2024 at 5:27:33 PM (3370 occurrences)
Last logged: 11:07:41 AM

RuntimeError: Detected that custom integration 'cync_lights' calls async_write_ha_state from a thread other than the event loop, which may cause Home Assistant to crash or data to corrupt. For more information, see https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/asyncio_thread_safety/#async_write_ha_state at custom_components/cync_lights/cync_hub.py, line 638: self._update_callback(). Please report it to the author of the 'cync_lights' custom integration.

Developing with asyncio requires careful attention to thread safety, as nearly all asyncio objects are not thread-safe. If you are just getting started with asyncio, review Python's documentation on Developing with asyncio for tips to avoid pitfalls.