#Proxmox VE installation
rugged nexus
Alright looks better now @elder rose
Dns is 192.168.1.1 thi
Tho
How do i figure out what I should put as dns?
Both gateway and dns are at 192.168.1.1
elder rose
DNS can be either your gateway or a public DNS server. Gateway is basically your router and most consumer routers have a DNS server included. You can also use a public DNS like 1.1.1.1 but I'd stick to what you have.
rugged nexus
Alright. Thanks. I’m installing now!
If anything’s wrong in the ip settings, can I edit that later?
Or do I need to uninstall/install
How long does it take to install, you’d say? Sorry if I’m boring you with these silly questions mate, haha
elder rose
Yes. The PVE install is very fast. Maybe 2-5 minutes?
elder rose
I made a comprehensive "tutorial" on how to update the ip here: #990876286723428372 message
It's in the proxcord discord server.
How big are your disks? Or at least the one you install onto.
rugged nexus
500gb
rugged nexus
I made a comprehensive "tutorial" on how to update the ip here: https://discord....
Gotcha, I joined
It’s still stuck. With no buttons to press..
Ah there’s the Abort button
What now?
elder rose
I'd give it some time. But not more than 5 minutes. Creating Thin LVs can be slow on some disks.
elder rose
Yeah then something has got to be wrong.
rugged nexus
What can it be?
elder rose
rugged nexus
Probably IPs or stuff?
elder rose
No. LV is storage related.
rugged nexus
But what is the right path to fix this issue now?
Well I would consider to clear ur TPM, if u had it running before, check the storage setting, if its on AHCI or RAID, change it and try it again,
Someone wrote
How to clear tpm?
elder rose
I'm not sure. I can only refer you to those posts or others you can find with proxmox stuck Create lvs.
rugged nexus
😦
Well thanks bud
This suxx
This guy spend 2 days to find the fix lmao
Lollll
I don’t have time like that to figure out the issue unfortunately
But I really appreciate your assistance and your thinking with me💯❤️
@elder rose I'll just leave it at 3% I guess
for a good hour or two
I'm clueless about what else to do
elder rose
Not quite sure, there can be a few different causes I guess.
rugged nexus
Well this sucks. Still haven't been able to figure it out 😦
elder rose
You can install debian and install PVE on it. Maybe you can try another disk first?
rugged nexus
You can install debian and install PVE on it. Maybe you can try another disk fir...
Dont have another disk
Its a new disk as well. This one
rugged nexus
You can install debian and install PVE on it. Maybe you can try another disk fir...
What’s debian?
elder rose
An operating system.
elder rose
HA does not really support windows well.
elder rose
And virtualization software on windows is mostly kaka.
rugged nexus
I can work with these two I guess but never heard about debian
elder rose
All the options kind of need quite a bit of technical knowledge.
elder rose
PVE is initially harder but gives you an environment to learn withour breaking much.
Unfortunately I don't know why you issue occurs. The things I linked had multiple different causes so i cant't test them for you.
rugged nexus
What would you suggest me to do from here?
elder rose
I'd grab a USB stick, install ventoy on it and drop the proxmox iso and the debian iso on it. Then try if the debian installer has the same issue.
rugged nexus
have you heard of openmediavault?
rugged nexus
I'd grab a USB stick, install ventoy on it and drop the proxmox iso and the debi...
checking my options now..
elder rose
Yes but it's not a good option to run VMs in my opinion. It also is still on debian 11. I don't like it much.
elder rose
That's portainer.
rugged nexus
oh cool!
so...
can I pull this off with linux or ubuntu?
or do i need debian rly
elder rose
It just depends if you want HAOS or not.
rugged nexus
the question is, do I need it?
I want an as smooth as possible environment
the best way to set this up
elder rose
No, you can run the addons' software through docker yourself. More work but also more flexibility.
rugged nexus
sounds good
elder rose
But let's keep this thread proxmox VE related.
rugged nexus
so what I want is.. I want to run loads of stuff on the s12 mini pro
I want HA, but I want other stuff on it as well
where do I go form here?
elder rose
Yeah then you don't want HAOS.
rugged nexus
ok gotcha
elder rose
Or at least not just HAOS.
elder rose
I still recommend proxmox.
rugged nexus
alright
elder rose
You can run one VM with your docker containers or whatever and one running HAOS.
rugged nexus
gotcha
so you still recommend me to run Proxmox on Debian 12?
can I run all the other stuff I want on Debian 12 as well?
elder rose
How long have you left the installer at the Create LVs step? What have you tried from my links?
Not HAOS but you can run all the docker containers you want.
I mean you can virtualize on debian too, PVE is based on debian, but it kind of sucks doing this via the CLI only.
rugged nexus
How long have you left the installer at the `Create LVs` step? What have you tri...
I left it until it automatically shutsdown after about 30 minutes
elder rose
PVE gives you a GUI and tools for it.
You could try the debug installer like one of the staff mentioned.
elder rose
Where exactly? Most of what you see here is the proxmox VE GUI.
elder rose
Proxmox VE is a debian OS with tools and a GUI to virtualize.
rugged nexus
which runs on top of Windows?
elder rose
No. Debian is its own OS.
rugged nexus
but I'm now trying to install Proxmox VE on my Windows mini pc right?
elder rose
Windows is just a pre-installed operating system. If you install proxmox VE windows is replaced.
rugged nexus
oh I see!
now it makes sense
I'll try to follow the link that I shared with you
let's see where we end p
elder rose
I recommend ventoy (latest version).
If you use rufus make sure you use the DD mode as mentioned here: https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Prepare_Installation_Media#_instructions_for_windows
The cool thing about ventoy is that you can use the stick like a normal stick for your data too and can simply drop .iso files in there.
rugged nexus
how much gb should I allocate to PROXMOX
hdsize
during install
ok it worked
its installed
elder rose
Sorry, was researching something. You likely don't need more than 100G.
elder rose
That is enough for the OS but if you want to store a few isos and backups you need more.
rugged nexus
backups of what?
elder rose
Your VMs/CTs.
rugged nexus
so I'm trying to access https://192.168.100.2:8006/
on my pc
it says the site is not reachable
elder rose
Did it pick that ip itself in the installer?
rugged nexus
Your VMs/CTs.
idk, saw a thread and most ppl allocated 32 and they said its enough
rugged nexus
Did it pick that ip itself in the installer?
yes
and the device is on now
and it also shows that ip
i need to enter my pass
but I want to do that through the web
elder rose
Run and show the results of ip a and systemctl status pveproxy.service.
Log in as root and your password you set earlier.
rugged nexus
on the device itself?
elder rose
Yes
lapis oliveBOT
rugged nexus
it says login incorrect
it says proxmox01 login:
and then password:
i know my password
but whats my login? lol
elder rose
rugged nexus
Run and show the results of `ip a` and `systemctl status pveproxy.service`.
Log ...
second command doesnt work
command not found
i cant copy paste it either
elder rose
Make sure you typed it correctly. Maybe show me a picture of it.
rugged nexus
since im on different devices
the ip a doesnt say much
what exactly do you want to see?
elder rose
Everything.
rugged nexus
what specifically do you want to see?
inet is 192.168.100.2/24
inet6 is the device mac adress
elder rose
The ip of your NIC and its status.
rugged nexus
i cant share a screenshot here
elder rose
rugged nexus
i cant screenshot on another device and share it here
lol
xD
there's no way i can show you right now
ip a looks fine
elder rose
You can take a picture with your phone or log into discord with your other device. Lots of ways.
rugged nexus
how do you want me to login on discord on my other device
i cant even login into the system? 😄
elder rose
Your other device being the server?
rugged nexus
yep
elder rose
Oh, no, of course not.
Servers don't have GUIs usually. At least not ones you use via keyboard and monitor.
rugged nexus
no clue how i can show you buddy
elder rose
Like I said, take a picture with your phone.
Otherwise try systemctl status pveproxy.service again. That's the service servicing you on 8006.
rugged nexus
ok that command worked now
' active' since 13 min ago
' pvecm[986]: got inotify poll request in wrong process - disabling inotify
is the only line which is colored red
what should we see here?
elder rose
If it's active it should be okay. Can you tell me the ip of your devicve you use to access8006?
rugged nexus
lol
you're asking me to share my public ip address bro?
ill just reinstall
and give the device a fixed ip this time
elder rose
No I'm asking you for your device's local (LAN) address. I want to know if you are in the same subnet as the server. It's possible you have multiple routers or whatever.
It already has a fixed ip, btw.
rugged nexus
this is on 192.168.100.2
all my other machines are on 192.168.1.xxx
including the device I'm typing from right now
elder rose
Okay that's what I wanted to know.
Your server should be in the same subnet.
Where's it plugged in?
elder rose
I'm confused why it would get such a different ip.
elder rose
You can either re-install or follow my link from earlier. The one to the other discord server.
rugged nexus
ill just re install
but it doesnt boot my usb anymore
eventhough its forced to boot the usb
elder rose
But before that I would try to figure out why your router is giving it this ip address and your other decvices get something else.
elder rose
Maybe. I don't know your networking environment but that sounds really quite wrong.
If all are connected to the same switch and it's a dumb switch they should usually get the same ip range allocated.
Different ip ranges can only communicate if they are routed by something.
rugged nexus
how to force the usb to boot after proxmox got succesfully installed already?
rugged nexus
Maybe. I don't know your networking environment but that sounds really quite wro...
its actually really solid
and this is the first time its showing me this subnet
elder rose
There should be a key you can press to temporarily select a boot device. Or you can fix it in the UEFI to boot from it.
rugged nexus
If all are connected to the same switch and it's a dumb switch they should usual...
its a dumb switch indeed
elder rose
Maybe PVE pulled it out of its ass but usually the installer gets an ip via DHCP assigned by your router.
rugged nexus
could be
prolly pulled out of its ass
cuz it showed me that while trying to setup without a cable as well lol
afaik
elder rose
With a smart switch you could have VLANs or other such things but I'm just confused at the moment.
rugged nexus
btw, its already set on USB Device as boot #1
it doesnt boot it tho
how to force boot it?
rugged nexus
With a smart switch you could have VLANs or other such things but I'm just confu...
im going to create vlans soon
cuz I'm doing lots of stuff on this network
this is just a little side project
elder rose
I recommend you go into your router and check the DHCP range and subnet. Then choose a ip that is outside of it. I use .100-200 for DHCP and everything outside for static stuff.
rugged nexus
its just not booting the usb lol, so frustrating
rugged nexus
I recommend you go into your router and check the DHCP range and subnet. Then ch...
alright I will check
but i cant seem to boot the usb anymore bro
elder rose
Maybe you overwrote it somehow? You can re-flash it.
rugged nexus
doubt
elder rose
The installer shouldn't let you but as I'm already guessing around, why not do it some more.
rugged nexus
also
the issue causing the 3%
was the disk format
you need to install PROXMOX VME on zfl 0raid
you didnt know that? 😮
elder rose
No you don't need to do that. I certainly don't.
elder rose
I wouldn't recommend ZFS for linux beginners. It's also kinda harsh on the disks and ZVOLs are slow.
rugged nexus
wdym with zvols are slow?
elder rose
Just google zvol iowait and zvol freeze.
elder rose
Part of it. ZVOLs are used when you create a disk for a VM/CT.
elder rose
LVM is kind of the default and performans rather well usually.
elder rose
rugged nexus
look
i need to pick something as filesystem
it shows ext4
xfs
zfs
btrfs
what should i select?
elder rose
Just the default. EXT4 is fine.
rugged nexus
alright
trying now
alright
now its showing .1 subnet automatically
this thing is tripping
what should I put as hdsize
as ext4 system?
its trying to take the full 500gb now
I'll put 64gb there?
as hdsize [ext4]
rugged nexus
thats recommended?
ok
now
i pressed backspace
to check the disk format/size etc
and now im at the management network config
it shows .100.2 again
so its tripping
i should just use .1.159 manually?
as thats what it was on 1 min ago?
elder rose
Sure, why not.
rugged nexus
aight
elder rose
But please don't barrage me with messages. I get pinged for all of them in a thread like this. Just write a full sentence 🙂
elder rose
I wonder why LVM and your HDD don't like each other.
rugged nexus
its the stock beelink s12 n100 mini pc
so yeah
lots of ppl are using it.. not sure with what configs tho
ill just use zfl
w/e
elder rose
Better than nothing, I guess.
rugged nexus
xD
ill leave it until it restarts itself again first, because maybe the restart means it got installed successfully
last time i didnt unplug the usb, thats why i maybe thought that it wasnt succesfull. maybe it just got the #1 boot of the usb again, while it got installed successfully. let's wait for a bit
rugged nexus
I have a questions buddy
I'm in my NAT section inside my router, but I can't find the .159 device.. which should be the Beelink
I did reboot it, but it should still have .1.159 right?
elder rose
You want the DHCP section. Besides, The 159 is not being used via DHCP any more right now so your router won't list it. You should still reserve it so it's not used for anything else.
rugged nexus
Good point!
It's at .231 right now!
My bro, thank you SO SO much by the way! Even when I was being clueless at some point, you helped me through
Thanks! @elder rose 💯
elder rose
No problem.
rugged nexus
Anything I should be doing with my .1.231 IP?
Don't want things to mess up with power outages etc
elder rose
Such as?
elder rose
What do you want to do?
rugged nexus
Jellyfish, and many more use cases
As I said I want to use the mini pc for multiple use cases..
elder rose
You create a VM or CT and run your stuff in it.
rugged nexus
Oh nice!
How do I get access to that project container
Or what we were discussing earlier?
elder rose
Portainer?
rugged nexus
Yessir
elder rose
You install it in a VM. I recommend debian as OS.
rugged nexus
How do I do that?
elder rose
You google those terms. Debian proxmox, debian portainer and so on.
elder rose
Well first comes the debian OS.
rugged nexus
oh..
elder rose
But nomthose docs aren't good. You want to use the docker apt repo.
rugged nexus
You install it in a VM. I recommend debian as OS.
which VM do you recommend?
elder rose
What do you mean which VM?
rugged nexus
can you possibly share a good guide?
I'll be able to manage myself that way, don't want to keep bothering you either...
haha
elder rose
I recommend the official docs of docker and portainer.
rugged nexus
Checking!
What do I have to do though, can you write it in a sentence?
I have to install Debias OS in VM so I can install Portainer?
elder rose
You need an OS, correct. On that OS you can install software like portainer which is just a GUI for docker.
rugged nexus
I'm really struggling to understand how I can install a new OS, new software on that OS..
I have proxmox now..
how do I install a new OS on it in VM?
elder rose
Like I said, google debian proxmox. Take a look at youtube.
It's not really possible or enjoyable to give you step by step guide here. Besides there are already a lof of them.
rugged nexus
Alright, doing now! Thanks again!
rugged nexus
Like I said, google debian proxmox. Take a look at youtube.
but so the thing is
this is exactly what I was doing, right? for HA
do I have to do it again?