#hi, i have signed up for the nabu casa
pale swallow
there might be an issue with my internet provider that potentially blocks incoming http traffic (i found this out the hard way when setting up nextcloud a while back)
neat finch
do you use any other cloud services that you did not set up? If yes, then it has nothing to do w/ http
nabucasa's connection is like any other cloud service, amazon, google home, etc
are you sure you put the correct URL in? Are you sure you used https://?
pale swallow
trust me, my incoming http traffic IS blocked
neat finch
ok, well nabucasa only works over https
which is why I keep saying this
and why your comment doesn't make sense
pale swallow
the url is correct (its actually a link one could click on the nabu casa website)
jeez, http / https
same protocol
neat finch
if it's blocking https, you wouldn't be able to access anything on the internet, ever
pale swallow
i didnt say outgoing, i said incoming
and i am living in a country that actually does those things
neat finch
... how do you think a website loads information
Are you sure they aren't blocking inbound ports?
which is different
pale swallow
... how do you think a website loads information
i connect to a webserver, the host queries a dns server, the dns gets me the ip, my browser opens a tcp connection to the webserver and that "channel" exchanges infos
incoming traffic works the other way around, which, and i hope you see that, is different from outgoing traffic
just, for the giggle, it would help if you could pretend that you believe me that incoming http traffic is indeed blocked.
what would be my options then
neat finch
vpn
pale swallow
i thought so too, but i can not install a vpn CLIENT on the HA server.. all addons are vpn servers
vpn and ddns client
imho
coz my "vpn ip" is different from my home internet ip
neat finch
all you need is your phone to have a vpn client that accesses your internal network
that just runs in the background
pale swallow
yeah, but wouldnt it be cooler to have the ha server connect to the internet via vpn?
no need to install things on phones, tablets, whatever
neat finch
pale swallow
be able to connect to HA via any client without the need for a vpn connection, like browsers
pale swallow
<https://community.home-assistant.io/t/home-assistant-community-add-on-zerotier-...
and this works with nabu casa?
ha, i just found out how to login. so, the x64 install also just runs docker (which is shocking), so i just can run it inside a docker myself. and have the host os of my choice
and i can run whatever i want on that host
proven robin
why do you think the nabu casa tunnels uses incoming connections? how do you think they get past your routers firewall?
pale swallow
why do you think the nabu casa tunnels uses incoming connections? how do you thi...
how do you think it connects to the HA instance? via air?
anyway, i fixed it. installed arch real quick, then home-assistant and on top wireguard
wireguard starts at boot connecting to proton vpn
now i can connect via the external url as well
neat finch
Keep in mind, you're replying to people who actively work on what you're talking about
proven robin
Just to be clear when we talk about inbound and outbound we are talking about which end initiated the tcp connection 😅
Your ha server connects to the nabu casa proxy. That’s an outbound connection.
They might multiplex multiple encrypted connections inside a tunnel
pale swallow
Your ha server connects to the nabu casa proxy. That’s an outbound connection.
to me incoming connections are when someone from the outside wants to connect to a local resource
pale swallow
as i said in post #2 : my internet provider that potentially blocks incoming http traffic
pale swallow
I’m talking about how the protocol works
no, not in my head - this is how its been named
but whatever. i figured it out. go, play with someone else
neat finch
Yeah, goodbye
neat finch
he's gone, no need for that attitude