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granite nova Jul 16, 2023, 11:51 PM

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I am trying to migrate an IP camera setup that came with our house (and was previously using a Dripstone NVR which died) to Frigate.

The issue I have is trying to get the IP cameras directly onto my network. The Ethernet cables all terminate in a closet in our living room. That closet is quite a way away from my office where my main router/internet/switch live (and near impossible to rewire).

I have a new PoE switch I bought for the cameras, but I'm struggling to get these connected to the main network using the wifi since I can't get a hard wire from my office to this closet.

I bought a new wifi router that supports wifi bridging, but after setting up the bridge, connecting the cameras to the switch, and then connecting the switch to the bridged router, I do not see any of these cameras joining the network. It feels like this router might not quite support what I'm intending to do.

I also have a mini PC coming on Monday with dual LAN ports that I plan to run Debian/Ubuntu on acting as the Frigate server (and possibly for other purposes. I'm curious if I can use one of the LAN ports on this machine to setup a private LAN for the cameras, and then use the wifi on board to connect it to the main network.

Any suggestions, solutions, guidance is deeply appreciated.

devout moon Jul 16, 2023, 11:52 PM

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yes you can do that

granite nova Jul 16, 2023, 11:53 PM

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Which one?

quiet ether Jul 16, 2023, 11:53 PM

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Is the bridge router setup use the DHCP of the main router?

devout moon Jul 16, 2023, 11:53 PM

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using 2 nics on the mini pc

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just set static ips and only specify 1 gateway

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using a wifi bridge for camera streams is a bad idea

granite nova Jul 16, 2023, 11:54 PM

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quiet ether Is the bridge router setup use the DHCP of the main router?

I'm not sure how to check that, it's a Linksys EA7450, and once I switched it into Wireless Bridge mode, the options in the console became pretty slim.

granite nova Jul 16, 2023, 11:56 PM

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devout moon just set static ips and only specify 1 gateway

Any suggested reading material on how to set this up once the mini PC comes in? Networking is a little new to me, but I'm a quick learn (20 year software engineer and Linux user).

devout moon Jul 16, 2023, 11:57 PM

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I don't know of any

quiet ether Jul 16, 2023, 11:58 PM

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devout moon using a wifi bridge for camera streams is a bad idea

If it can be avoided yeah, but I think if the camera and bridge are solid it can work well. I have 1 loryta camera on a wifi to poe adapter and it's been just as solid as my poe cameras

devout moon Jul 16, 2023, 11:58 PM

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1 camera maybe

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but multiple over a wifi bridge doesn't sound fun

granite nova Jul 16, 2023, 11:59 PM

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@devout moon I feel like that may be part of the problem. Feels like the Wifi bridge only really wants to support a single Ethernet device

devout moon Jul 17, 2023, 12:00 AM

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so if the mini pc is wired to the switch that has the cameras, give the cameras static ips on a a subnet that's different than the main network

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so if you use 192.168.10.0/24 for the cameras, you can give the server the ip 192.168.10.10/24 on that nic

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with no default gateway specified

quiet ether Jul 17, 2023, 12:01 AM

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devout moon 1 camera maybe

Oh yeah true I didn't realize this was all cameras

devout moon Jul 17, 2023, 12:01 AM

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as a bonus, the cameras won't have internet access

granite nova Jul 17, 2023, 12:01 AM

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I like that about this approach

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I guess I'm just going to have to poke around when I get the mini PC to figure out how to get a subnet created on one of the LAN ports

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I'm really hoping I can find some kind of visual network manager for Linux

devout moon Jul 17, 2023, 12:02 AM

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it's going to depend on what os you use

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I did it on ubuntu

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netplan makes it pretty easy

granite nova Jul 17, 2023, 12:04 AM

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Ubuntu is what I prefer to use as it's what I have the most experaince with, but most of my Linux experiance is in hosting web applications, software dev, and only minimal networking.

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@devout moon is this the netplan you are referring to: https://netplan.io/

devout moon Jul 17, 2023, 12:05 AM

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yes

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it comes with ubuntu

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  ethernets:
    enp1s0:
      optional: true
      link-local: []
  vlans:
      camera-lan:
        id: 5
        link: enp1s0
        dhcp4: no
        dhcp6: no
        addresses: [192.168.10.10/24]
      main-lan:
        id: 1
        link: enp1s0
        dhcp4: no
        dhcp6: yes
        addresses: [192.168.1.10/24]
        routes:
          - to: default
            via: 192.168.1.1
        nameservers:
          search: [localdomain]
          addresses: [192.168.1.1]

  version: 2```

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here's an example based on my config

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I'm using vlans, but it would work the same for 2 separate interfaces

granite nova Jul 17, 2023, 12:13 AM

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@devout moon I see that you have DHCP turned off on the camera LAN, how do the cameras aquire IP addresses with that turned off (forgive my networking ignorance once again)?

devout moon Jul 17, 2023, 12:13 AM

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static ips on the cameras

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I still have dhcp on for my camera vlan, but I don't use it for the server or cameras

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in your case, you wouldn't have a dhcp server

granite nova Jul 17, 2023, 12:17 AM

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Did the cameras ship with static IPs, or how did you connect to them initially to give them IPs?

devout moon Jul 17, 2023, 12:17 AM

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all my cameras have it set up in their web page

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so I use dhcp at first to connect to them

granite nova Jul 17, 2023, 12:18 AM

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Got it, and then once you fixed their IPs you were able to turn DHCP off?

devout moon Jul 17, 2023, 12:18 AM

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yes

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