#bah why is templating so stupid i feel
last totem
I would also like to see this, particularly now templates can be reused, feels like time for a blueprints style thing to do templates
iron jay
Templating and re-using script logic are different things
torpid dirge
exactly! also i'd love to see something where it's more template based in scripts too, so the whole thing can be run through a template instead of having to choose if/else/choose/whatever
iron jay
The #templates-archived channel can help with templates if you need it
last totem
Templating and re-using script logic are different things
yes sure but a central repo of reusable snippets for templates now makes sense
it didnt before as they werent reusable
iron jay
I'm sure a "templates exchange" will become a thing
last totem
100%
iron jay
Of course, then many people will blindly re-use those and be confused 
torpid dirge
The <#672223497736421388> channel can help with templates if you need it
i've been asking in the template channel but it must be a quiet day today
i ended up figuring it out about 20 minutes ago, but it's been a not fun day of hitting my head against a wall for like 4 hours to get it working
last totem
is it being actively worked on or is that a nice piece of potentially low hanging fruit for anyone in the community?
last totem
Of course, then many people will blindly re-use those and be confused <a:ablobjo...
lol 100% to this too but its still an improvement, perfect is the enemy of good
iron jay
i've been asking in the template channel but it must be a quiet day today
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Well, it's a global community, not everybody is awake and online when you are
last totem
I'd like to see a developer envagelist on the team at nabu casa
torpid dirge
Well, it's a global community, not everybody is awake and online when you are
yeah, and it's the weekend, so completely fair - was just saying i already knew about the templates channel 🙂
last totem
is it being actively worked on or is that a nice piece of potentially low hangin...
where is the best place to ask a question like this? the forum?
iron jay
I've already passed it up to the brain trust
torpid dirge
that'll be so good when it's released!
last totem
I've already passed it up to the brain trust
I like the way you've put this but I don't know what it means
I'm guessing to the nabu casa guys?
last totem
sorry I mean more like are you my conduit to said trust or can I suggest things directly?
I'd like to understand if that is something being actively worked on but I don't want to bother you for updates
iron jay
Well... you can't suggest things directly because you're not in that channel 😛
You can however open feature requests on the forum
And it's a simple enough thing (forum category) that there's not really going to be much to update on - it'll either happen or it won't, and if it happens it's about two clicks
last totem
oh sorry to be clear I am a programmer thats possibly capable of implementing that, I'm looking to be included in doing the work
I got my first PR accepted (only some docker base image stuff) the other day 🙂
iron jay
Well, the starting point is just a forum where people can copy and paste from
Which is pretty much what people have today for script/automation blueprints
If you wanted to build something in HA then https://developers.home-assistant.io/ and #developers could guide you
last totem
it might be something for HACS even I guess
as that is pretty much just pulling repos and putting files in the right places (oversimplifcation but you get me)
last totem
Which is pretty much what people have today for script/automation blueprints
I'm suprised that this is what we are still doing for blueprints, I find the blueprint forum very hard to navigate, lots of repetition, not much filtering
iron jay
I find blueprints largely pointless 😛
last totem
great for repetition e.g. I have hue dimmers here and I use a blueprint for those
I know there is appdaemon stuff but I prefer the blueprints
iron jay
HACS apparently already has this under experimental features
last totem
ooooh great thanks for the heads up @torpid dirge see above
torpid dirge
Oh cool, that's awesome! Thanks for the update!
inland terrace
Hmm why do you find blueprints pointless Tinkerer? I find them really useful to avoid having to repeat the same automation logic across multiple automations. Eg. I have one motion lights blueprint that I reference in motion lights automations for 10+ rooms. Makes maintenance and enhancement much more seamless.
Full disclosure, these are self-made custom blueprints. Those from the exchange seem too bloated cos they have to cater to all the edge cases. I only use those from Awesome HA cos they really are awesome.
iron jay
Because I almost never have near identical requirements in different rooms