Before I get too far is HUSBZB 1 junk | Home Assistant | Page 1

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:10 PM

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I dont have experience with that hub unfortunately either

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does se3em to be of good quality from what I am seeing

dawn nexus Dec 16, 2022, 7:10 PM

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It's not the latest and the greatest but it works

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:11 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/pxfws1/husbzb1_still_worth_the_buy/

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thats a little old but shows people have had good/reliable results take it for a grain of salt tho

dawn nexus Dec 16, 2022, 7:11 PM

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You may also want to upgrade its firmware to a stable build (https://github.com/walthowd/husbzb-firmware#selecting-the-correct-firmware-file), some come with very old firmware

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:12 PM

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OK well, reason I ask is (for those who weren't watching the general topic) is a couple weeks ago I started having major issues with connectivity. Tell the kitchen lights to go on/off and you're looking at probably 5/7. And not always the same 5 of 7.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:12 PM

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what kind of signal strength are we talking. Could be packet loss due to signal strength not sure if that is accounted for in zigbee or not

flat seal Dec 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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Are you using groups? They can help quite a bit if you don't need to control things individually.

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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And the signal strengths I'm seeing just seem absurdly low - like an RSSI of -65 for a light switch that's literally less than 3 feet of open air from the stick to the switch.

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Looks like I can't paste a pic. That's annoying.

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OK so...

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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imgur

flat seal Dec 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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I have a bunch of kitchen lights and they work a lot better after using groups

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:13 PM

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not sure what the tag to show the msg is

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does show about a year ago that that stick isn't supported by z2m but firmware and addon may have fixed that not sure.

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signal seems really low

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I have mine connected direct to the port of my server in the basement and have no isues

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:14 PM

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Workig on imgur upload

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Ok so this is most of them.

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Didn't want to get too small

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:15 PM

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no worries just sound boarding

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:15 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/LBIIYch

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:15 PM

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talking 30 or so feet to was closest routered device through walls and floors

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:16 PM

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There is no zigbee device more than 30 feet from my coordinator straight-line wise.

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And the vast majority are going to be within 20.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:18 PM

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your lqi is good 255 is max I don't think the rssi is bad but not entirely sure as I cant find mine in z2m

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my lowest lqi is 42

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:18 PM

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LQI is just link quality through the mesh back to the coordinator?

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:19 PM

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trying to find a definition to verify but essentially I believe so and that is all that matters

dawn nexus Dec 16, 2022, 7:19 PM

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LQI depends on the stick. For TI sticks, it's just RSSI. It's also usually calculated just from the last hop (i.e. the router your coordinator talks to), so it doesn't necessarily mean much.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:21 PM

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do you have a map showing the mesh at all on zha?

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:21 PM

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I do, but it's pretty hard to read.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:21 PM

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if you don't mind sharing ill take a look.

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:22 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/hzrGIUW

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You might want me to zoom in or something but there you go

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:23 PM

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that is hard to decipher but based on the lines without know the color indications it appears they are meshing

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have you looked at the logs to see if there are any errors when the 5/7 happens?

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:24 PM

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More or less, yes.

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Umm...I think I haven't, honestly.

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But let me ask you this one. It might help wiht most of what I care about

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Well two things.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:24 PM

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might be worth looking at

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:26 PM

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is there a way to get some sort of guaranteed delivery? Like, tell X to turn off, and if it doesn't get a response try again?
https://imgur.com/a/2MopGom

dawn nexus Dec 16, 2022, 7:26 PM

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stray bone https://imgur.com/a/hzrGIUW

At this point I think you may be exceeding what the HUSBZB-1 can handle. Try updating the firmware as I posted above. If that doesn't work, get a more capable coordinator, like a CC2652 or an EFR32 stick. ZHA has a migration flow that will make swapping sticks seamless.

flat seal Dec 16, 2022, 7:27 PM

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also, try groups if you haven't so you're just telling the group to change rather than 7 individual bulbs to change

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:27 PM

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Basically, I have more or less solved my problem by using groups. But the pic above, the lights should be alternating green and red (they're devices in that scene) but when I add a ZHA group, I don't seem to be able to do anything but flat out turn them on, and turning them on seems to kick them to just an incandescent color.

flat seal Dec 16, 2022, 7:27 PM

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ahh

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:27 PM

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I feel like I'm missing a better way to configure them.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:29 PM

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how are you controlling them? what are you doing to make them change and turn on etc

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:29 PM

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Just a time-based automation. I'm just calling a scene in it.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:29 PM

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what brand bulbs?

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:29 PM

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And yes, I can just call the scene a few times and will generally work. But since groups seem to solve myt problem I was hoping to kick it all to groups.

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Mostly Hue, some Innr.

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Maybe a few mongels mixed in on the outdoor lights.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:31 PM

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any specific brand seem to stand out that fail for you? or all mixed I know you said in the 5/7 they were different

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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The 5/7 are all hue types.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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this is my map for reference in z2m

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https://imgur.com/ro1MlXd

flat seal Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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if groups are making that big of a difference I would think it's what puddly said. puddly is one of the most knowledgeable about zigbee in here so if you listen to anyone, listen to him. I just guess things until someone corrects me.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:32 PM

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I think z2m might be easier to understand based on what info is giving you are changing coordinator anyway

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Boy that map looks so much nicer.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Im with Bu on that. Im willing to stumble around in the dark with you still tho

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:34 PM

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OK, I need to run to a work lunch, but I appreciate all the help. I'll flash my HUBZ tonight, and at worst swap to Z2M with a Sonoff 3.0 tomorrow.

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Hopefully I won't be back to beg for help again tomorrow, but it's sure possible.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:34 PM

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let us know if how it turns out

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want me to close this thread?

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@stray bone

dawn nexus Dec 16, 2022, 7:35 PM

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stray bone OK, I need to run to a work lunch, but I appreciate all the help. I'll flash my ...

If you have a Sonoff 3.0, you can swap to it with the migration flow without re-joining devices. And swap back if it doesn't work 😆

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:35 PM

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Sounds even better.

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I did a lot of reading that Z2M is super awesome, and seems to be the solution to everything (people make it sound that way).

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Should I go through the trouble of doing Z2M? Or just hope for ZHA to be quick and easy and get on with my life?

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:36 PM

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I can't say for sure but so far has been great for me

flat seal Dec 16, 2022, 7:36 PM

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z2m is nice because it has a layer of abstraction that can take care of a lot of quirks from devices

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zha probably does too. I'm dumb.

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🙂

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:37 PM

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Well maybe I'll split the devices and run them side by side on teh 2 sticks

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:37 PM

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I think it depends on how much you value your time

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if you don't mind burning the time to reset all the devices on a new addon or not

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take note of the naming you used and can migrate each over without changing the automations I believe.

dawn nexus Dec 16, 2022, 7:38 PM

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For the most part once a device is on the network and all features work, the choice of integration won't impact network stability (since that's all handled by the firmware automatically)

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What most people notice switching between Z2M and ZHA is the default network channel: Z2M uses 11, ZHA uses 15. If one of those is congested from nearby WiFi (usually 11), the network works "better" after switching

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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Well, I'm already shifted to 25 in an attempt to improve things. I like to tinker even if it annoys the wife so I may do Z2M just for the exercise.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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that might be part of your issue as well. What channel would be better for you. You might be in the noise floor for the channel with your wifi devices

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 7:40 PM

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Well, mine are under control, but you know, neighbors are being difficult.

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But I've got to run. Thanks bunches for the help.

ruby cliff Dec 16, 2022, 7:41 PM

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good luck! do you want me to close this thread?

stray bone Dec 16, 2022, 10:47 PM

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Just got back and kind of in a holding pattern. I'll bug you again tomorrow if I still need help, so feel free to close it out

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