#templates-archived

marble jackal Apr 8, 2022, 8:05 PM

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note that I don't know the contents on beforehand, It could even b that a is not included

silent barnBOT Apr 8, 2022, 8:05 PM

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The XY problem is asking about your attempted solution rather than your actual problem.

This leads to enormous amounts of wasted time and energy, both on the part of people asking for help, and on the part of those providing help.

The problem occurs when people get stuck on what they believe is the solution and are unable to step back and explain the issue in full.

buoyant pine Apr 8, 2022, 8:05 PM

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Just in case 😄

marble jackal Apr 8, 2022, 8:07 PM

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Hehe, the problem is complicated.
I have a script where people to resume Google Home Speakers after they have been interrupted
They can provide any service call in it which will be performed, and after that the previous stream (spotiy, tunin will be resumed)
For one specific case I replace the target with another one. That works fine, but it could be that the actual target has been provided under data.
So for that specific case I want to remove entity_id, area_id and/or device_id from data

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Well, not so complicated in the end

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I could possibly do something like:

{% set ns = namespace(s={}) %}
{% for item in service_call.get('data', {}).items() | list %}
  {% if not item[0] in [ 'entity_id', 'device_id', 'area_id' ] %}
    {% set add = { item[0]: item[1] } %}
    {% set ns.s = dict(ns.s, **add) %}
  {% endif %}
{% endfor %}
{{ ns.s }}

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Jep, that works

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Figured out how to do it with a filter as well:

{% set example = { 'a': 1, 'b': [2, 5], 'c': {'d': 4} } %}
{% set test = example.items() | rejectattr('0', 'eq', 'a') | list %}
{{ dict(test) }}

naive swan Apr 9, 2022, 2:21 AM

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Hey everyone, I'm looking for assistance regarding a TTS automation. I currently have a sensor that tracks my sleep time and lists the state as 6:53 for example but when read it says 6 53 hours. Is there a template i could use to get it to read 6 hours 53 minutes instead?

inner mesa Apr 9, 2022, 2:26 AM

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without knowing where it's getting the "hours" from, I would do this:

{% set time = states('sensor.whatever').split(':') %}
{{ time[0] ~ " hours " ~ time[1] ~ " minutes" }}

naive swan Apr 9, 2022, 2:31 AM

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Thanks very much Rob I appreciate that

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That's come up with 6 hours 53 hours minutes, is there a way to remove the second hours mention?

inner mesa Apr 9, 2022, 2:45 AM

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no idea where it's coming from

naive swan Apr 9, 2022, 2:50 AM

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Ah I see the issue. The problem was my original template i used to convert 413 minutes into hours, I removed the hours mention in that so your template only picks up the numerical values and its working now. Thanks again

silent barnBOT Apr 9, 2022, 4:34 AM

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@naive swan posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/onocujuser

naive swan Apr 9, 2022, 4:41 AM

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Ugh i hit 15 lines only due to including the surrounding context 😄

rose scroll Apr 9, 2022, 4:50 AM

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What is the current state of your Fitbit sleep hours sensor in Dev Tools > States?

naive swan Apr 9, 2022, 4:52 AM

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6:53, the template i used got it close to what i wanted then used robs to separate it into hours and minutes

rose scroll Apr 9, 2022, 4:56 AM

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What the error seems to be indicating is that when you split the Fitbit sleep hours state by : , the resulting list doesn't have an element in the 1th position.

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This could happen if say the state is 'unavailable'

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Are you getting the error now, when the state is 6:53?

naive swan Apr 9, 2022, 5:00 AM

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Last even log showed the warning 13 minutes ago.

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It looks to be that it's falling into an unknown state for a very brief time every so often

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There's no drop outs on the original sensor its referencing so I'm unsure what's causing the template to do so

fallow ruin Apr 9, 2022, 8:05 AM

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guys
is it possibly to somehow get which light toggled on a group
with a template ?

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Yes, how would you like to use this information?

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You can create an automation or trigger based sensor with the group turning on as the trigger. Then use a template to expand the group and determine which entities are on

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When they are all on, the group itself was turned on, and not a single entity

fallow ruin Apr 9, 2022, 8:57 AM

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i use the mushroom card, and i want to know which light in the specific group has turned on the light and show that on a card

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 9:05 AM

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Okay, so you want to use it in a template card?

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If you need to know which entity turned the group on, I would suggest to create the trigger based template sensor.
You need to know the information at the time of the state change, not at the current moment, so you need to store it somewhere.
If you need to have it survive a HA reboot or a template reload, store it in an input_text using an automation.
Display the state of the sensor or the input_text in your card

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Maybe trigger on the group turning on and off

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The template can then be something like:

{% set group = 'light.your_light_group` %}
{% set member_count = expand(group) | list | count %}
{% set members_on = expand(group) | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | map(attribute='attributes.friendly_name') | list %}
{% if trigger.to_state.state == 'off' %}
  Group is off
{% elif members_on | count == members_count %}
  Group itself
{% else %}
  {{ members_on |  join(', ') }}
{% endif %}

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@fallow ruin disclaimer: typed on mobile without testing

fallow ruin Apr 9, 2022, 9:23 AM

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thnx i'm giong to try that

fallow ruin Apr 9, 2022, 9:42 AM

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UndefinedError: 'trigger' is undefined

i'm really bad with templating @marble jackal

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 9:46 AM

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@fallow ruin The template relies on a trigger, it will only work when there is a trigger, and will therefore not work in the template editor.

You can add {% set trigger = { 'to_state': { 'state': 'on' } } %} at the top of the template editor to mimic it

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@fallow ruin Or change the template to:

{% set group = 'light.your_light_group` %}
{% set member_count = expand(group) | list | count %}
{% set members_on = expand(group) | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | map(attribute='attributes.friendly_name') | list %}
{% if is_state(group, 'off') %}
  Group is off
{% elif members_on | count == members_count %}
  Group itself
{% else %}
  {{ members_on |  join(', ') }}
{% endif %}

fallow ruin Apr 9, 2022, 9:57 AM

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this works great, your a template king 😉

young shadow Apr 9, 2022, 10:58 AM

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I get a Config error for this, however yaml-wise it is correct according to Yamllint. How should I create a templated open_cover: in my Template Cover?

        open_cover: >
          {% if is_state('cover.garage','closed') %}
            - service: mqtt.publish
              data:
                topic: automation/xx
                payload: garage
                retain: false
          {% endif %}```
```Invalid config for [cover.template]: expected dictionary @ data['covers']['garage']['open_cover'][0]. Got '{'. (See ?, line ?).```

willow rapids Apr 9, 2022, 11:15 AM

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Are there only 2 states possible? Is it ever unavailable or unknown?

young shadow Apr 9, 2022, 11:19 AM

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young shadow I get a Config error for this, however yaml-wise it is correct according to Yaml...

Solved by creating a script, which includes a Choose action, and this script is used for open_cover:.

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 11:20 AM

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You can not put yaml in a template like that

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Use a choose for something like this

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Ah, should have read all posts

narrow surge Apr 9, 2022, 12:06 PM

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How do I check if a condition has ran in the past 5 minutes? My bedroom curtains are opening because my living_room curtains are opening, it detects motion because of this and that will trigger to open the bedroom curtains.

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value_template: "{{ (as_timestamp(now()) - 60) < as_timestamp(state_attr('automation.open_curtains_living_room_right', 'last_triggered' )) }}?

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Yep, that works!

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 12:36 PM

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That will be the last minute though, not 5

narrow surge Apr 9, 2022, 2:01 PM

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Yeh, used it to test it 🙂

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:10 PM

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What do you actually need to put into a template condition?
It right now gives me this error while testing: template value should be a string for dictionary value @ data['value_template']. Got None
The template is just this one line: {{ as_timestamp(states.light["3a_smart_home_de_lxn_2s27lx1_0_6ede69fe_level_on_off"].last_updated) > as_timestamp(states.light["3a_smart_home_de_lxn_2s27lx1_0_6ede69fe_level_on_off_2"].last_updated) }}
That line works fine in the Dev Tools template editor.

steady nebula Apr 9, 2022, 9:12 PM

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Random question. Can you do an if statement based on who the current user is?

inner mesa Apr 9, 2022, 9:14 PM

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novel quail What do you actually need to put into a template condition? It right now gives m...

You probably just need to surround it in quotes, but would otherwise need to see the whole thing

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:15 PM

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I can't seem to post screenshots here, but surrounding it in quotes makes no difference.

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It's just a simple Condition, with Condition type set to Template, and the exact string up there in the Value template field

inner mesa Apr 9, 2022, 9:16 PM

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You could describe it, or actually post it

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:16 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/iqSYI6a.png

inner mesa Apr 9, 2022, 9:17 PM

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As text

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That's why you can't post images

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:17 PM

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The text is the one above

inner mesa Apr 9, 2022, 9:17 PM

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Oh well

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:17 PM

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I don't understand what you're asking from me, sorry

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{{ as_timestamp(states.light["3a_smart_home_de_lxn_2s27lx1_0_6ede69fe_level_on_off"].last_updated) > as_timestamp(states.light["3a_smart_home_de_lxn_2s27lx1_0_6ede69fe_level_on_off_2"].last_updated) }} is the text of the template

inner mesa Apr 9, 2022, 9:19 PM

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Post the whole damn thing. As text

tepid onyx Apr 9, 2022, 9:20 PM

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heh

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:20 PM

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What whole damn thing? I'm making this script via the visual editor.

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If there is a plain text representation of it, I don't know how to get it to show it to me.

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Ah, seems like when I try to run it once, it shows up in the "Show Trace" section...

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It's too long for Discord to let me send it, so here's a pastebin: https://bpa.st/UGNQ

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Seems like the "Test" button is just straight up broken. The script seems to work fine.

tepid onyx Apr 9, 2022, 9:29 PM

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as_timestamp(states.light.3a_smart_home_de_lxn_2s27lx1_0_6ede69fe_level_on_off.last_updated) ?

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:29 PM

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Can't do that because of the leading number

tepid onyx Apr 9, 2022, 9:32 PM

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use single quotes?

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:33 PM

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It makes no difference. I tested that line in the Template-Editor in dev tools. I'm pretty confident it works fine.
The script also runs and behaves like I'd expect, so it seems to be working fine as well.
Just the "Test" button throws an error.

tepid onyx Apr 9, 2022, 9:33 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/template-and-entity-id-beginning-with-a-number/54194/5

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why not rename your entities to something useful

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:34 PM

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I wasn't aware you could rename them at that level? I gave them useful names in the UI

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ah, you sure can... yeah, that sure makes things easier

tepid onyx Apr 9, 2022, 9:36 PM

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pretty sure you can

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:36 PM

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Yeah, I never noticed that the Entity ID field was editable. I took them as device given

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 9:56 PM

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Press the 3 dots at the top right in the GUI, switch to YAML view and share the complete condition

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 9:57 PM

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Ahhh, that's good to know. Thanks

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Just the condition out of it is:

          - condition: template
            value_template: >-
              {{
              as_timestamp(states.light["3a_smart_home_de_lxn_2s27lx1_0_6ede69fe_level_on_off"].last_updated)
              <
              as_timestamp(states.light["3a_smart_home_de_lxn_2s27lx1_0_6ede69fe_level_on_off_2"].last_updated)
              }}

The whole thing is what I already pasted on bpaste

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 9:59 PM

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Don't see any issues with it, besides that they are both datetime object which you can perfectly compare with each other without converting them to a timestamp

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 10:00 PM

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ah, that makes it quite a bit nicer

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yeah, the whole script also works from what I can tell

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Just the Test button doesn't like it. Or really anything I put in there

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I think the Button just broken

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 10:01 PM

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Is that the one which is new in 2022.4

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What does it show when you press it?

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 10:01 PM

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I made this install literally today, so I couldn't tell :D

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A popup error box with template value should be a string for dictionary value @ data['value_template']. Got None in it

marble jackal Apr 9, 2022, 10:02 PM

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Hmm, maybe a bug in that check button then indeed

novel quail Apr 9, 2022, 10:03 PM

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At least this slight mess of a script seems to work. One button blinds control, yay

tough lily Apr 10, 2022, 12:56 AM

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~~how do I get the area an entity is in?~~ Sorry, derp, it's right in the docs

tough lily Apr 10, 2022, 1:17 AM

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Ok, so I can pull a list of entities in my kitchen in, and I can get their friendly names and states, but how do I get their domain? ``` {% for foo in area_entities('Kitchen') %}
{{ state_attr(foo, 'friendly_name') ~ ' ' ~ states(foo) }}
{% endfor %}

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 1:22 AM

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from the entities

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area_entities() returns complete entity_ids, including their domains

tough lily Apr 10, 2022, 1:22 AM

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as just a string though, right?

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I can parse the string, but thought there might be a cleaner way

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 1:23 AM

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entitied_ids are strings, yes

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an entity_id like switch.fr_table_lamp is just a string

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{{ "switch.fr_table_lamp".split('.')[0] }}

tough lily Apr 10, 2022, 1:24 AM

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I'll give that a shot, thanks

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Basically, I'm trying to make a template that for a given area will output a light icon if any lights in that area are "on", a door icon if any doors are "on" and a lock icon if any locks are "unlocked". Could I just do that with some kind of select?

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 1:27 AM

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those are three different things to output, but yes, that's much easier

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{{ states.light|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list|count > 0 }}

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or in your case, {{ area_entities('Family Room')|expand|selectattr('domain', 'eq', 'light')|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list|count > 0 }}

tough lily Apr 10, 2022, 1:29 AM

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thanks!

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 1:29 AM

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that returns true if any lights in that area are on

tough lily Apr 10, 2022, 1:29 AM

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selectattr is great.

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 1:30 AM

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it is

tough lily Apr 10, 2022, 1:34 AM

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Why doesn't states.light|selectattr('area_name', 'eq', 'Kitchen')|list return anything? When I use states.light|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list I get a list that includes:

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https://i.imgur.com/o3h4e2V.png

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It shows as area_name as an attribute, but looks like I can't select for it

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Got it! states.light|selectattr('attributes.area_name', 'eq', 'Kitchen')|list

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 7:36 AM

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Hi guys! I am using this in my scripts to define a few variables; all_lights: "{{ area_entities('Bathroom') | expand | selectattr('domain', 'eq', 'light') | map(attribute='entity_id') | list }}" lights_on: "{{ area_entities('Bathroom') | expand | selectattr('domain', 'eq', 'light') | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | map(attribute='entity_id') | list }}" number_of_lights_on: "{{ lights_on | length }}"

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they check out fine in dev_tools, but I get this error in the gui when the scripts are called;Invalid config for [script]: invalid template (TemplateAssertionError: No filter named 'expand'.) for dictionary value @ data['variables']['all_lights']. Got None invalid template (TemplateAssertionError: No filter named 'expand'.) for dictionary value @ data['variables']['lights_on']. Got None. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 15). Invalid config for [script]: invalid template (TemplateAssertionError: No filter named 'expand'.) for dictionary value @ data['variables']['lights_on']. Got None. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 15).

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I can't seem to find the issue. It complains on the 'expand' filter/command which is needed... What can I do?

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 8:11 AM

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No idea at all?

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 9:27 AM

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If what I have written above is not correct, can these values be retrieved in a better way, so that it don't generate an error when actually run?

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 9:56 AM

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pastel moon No idea at all?

Use expand(something) instead of something | expand

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expand can not be used as a filter

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 9:59 AM

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Ah... Explains the error. Was confused because 'ha core check' found no issue, nor the 'check config', but will try this, thanks! 🙂

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 10:00 AM

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That check can't check templates

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Use devtools > templates for that

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 10:01 AM

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marble jackal Use <:devtools:619094051878207520> > templates for that

Yes, I did that, and in that it worked nicely, just not in the script later...

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 10:01 AM

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Btw, you can use your all_lights variable in all_lights_on

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 10:02 AM

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pastel moon Yes, I did that, and in that it worked nicely, just not in the script later...

Hmm, indeed, that's strange

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It does accept it in the template checker

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 10:04 AM

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Yes, but all in all, there's a lot that works really nicely these days, so I wouldn't complain... 🙂

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 10:05 AM

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I will have a further look and might create an issue if I get the same result

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 10:05 AM

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Great! Thanks for the help!

open coral Apr 10, 2022, 11:34 AM

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hi everyone! I have a little D1 mini with an ultrasonic sensor attached to measure the salt in my water softener. I am using update_interval: 3600s on the D1 but im wondering if there is a way for me to get the D1 to report every an average of say 10 consecutive measurements (maybe every 1s) to eliminate any errors?
not sure if this is a problem for a template?

silent barnBOT Apr 10, 2022, 12:15 PM

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ESPHome is a system to control your ESP8266/ESP32, with a native integration for Home Assistant.

You can find their documentation here, and get help with ESPHome itself here in the #diy-archived channel (#integrations-archived for the Home Assistant side integration with it). They also have their own Discord server too.

floral shuttle Apr 10, 2022, 12:46 PM

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trying to do away with as many rest sensors to the instance /api as possible, (some historic background on this in https://community.home-assistant.io/t/template-to-display-loaded-components-on-ha-instance/114402/13) I was looking for a way to find the installed components (integrations) and checked https://next.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#integrations. that doesnt seem to help yet though.

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replacing my python script which does components = hass.states.get('sensor.ha_rpi4_config').attributes['components'] built on ```

platform: rest
name: Ha Rpi4 config
resource: !secret resource_ha_rpi4_config
value_template: > #components|list|count}}
{{value_json.version}}
json_attributes:
- components
- unit_system
- config_dir

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can we not do this yet with the new integrations template options? or what am I missing. ;-/

final abyss Apr 10, 2022, 12:51 PM

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Trying to create a template that checks if everyone is in bed. Got all the bed sensors in group.bed_presence and want to compare that to zone.home. so If 1 person is at home and 1 or more are in bed the sensor should be true. However if 0 people at home and 0 people in bed it should not be true.
I think i got the first part figured out, but not sure about the last part.
i got this now:

{{ states.group.bed_presence|expand|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list|count|int >= states('zone.home') | float }}

Any suggestions / ideas?

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 1:00 PM

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final abyss Trying to create a template that checks if everyone is in bed. Got all the bed s...

I spot something I did wrong too, 'expand' cannot be used as a filter (but does indeed work in the template checker). Have a look here #templates-archived message

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 1:16 PM

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final abyss Trying to create a template that checks if everyone is in bed. Got all the bed s...

add and states('zone.home') != '0'?

final abyss Apr 10, 2022, 1:22 PM

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That works! {{ expand(states.group.bed_presence)|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list|count|int >= states('zone.home') | float and states('zone.home') != '0'}}
Thanks 🙂

tribal holly Apr 10, 2022, 1:36 PM

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help

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Month:
value_template: {% if now().month() in (0,) %}Janeiro{% elif now().month() in (1,) %}Fevereiro{% elif now().month() in (2,) %}Março{% elif now().month() in (3,) %}Abril{% elif now().month() in (4,) %}Maio{% elif now().month() in (5,) %}Junho{% elif now().month() in (6,)%}Julho{% elif now().month() in (7,)%}Agosto{% elif now().month() in (8,)%}Setembro{% elif now().month() in (9,)%}Outubro{% elif now().month() in (10,)%}Novembro{% elif now().month() in (11,)%}Dezembro{% endif %}

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 1:39 PM

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now().month() counts from 1 to 12, not from 0 to 11

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You could also do it like this:

{% set months = [ 'January', 'February', 'March', 'April' ] %}
{{ months[ now().month() - 1 ] }}

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Add all the months of course, don't stop at April

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You could also try {{ now().strftime('%B') }}

pastel moon Apr 10, 2022, 2:02 PM

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The latter was neat... Is there anything to consider when choosing method, or are they equally good?

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 2:24 PM

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Well, the list with month names always gives the same result, the latter depends on language settings

floral shuttle Apr 10, 2022, 2:55 PM

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            **{{- d[0]}}:**
            {% for i in d[1] if i.state in ['unavailable','unknown'] -%}
            > {{i.name}}: *{{i.state}}*
            {% endfor %}
          {%- endfor -%}``` give me a nice ordered list of domains and their entities. It does however show the domain when there is no entity to list. Ive tried to set a count !=0 and even exclude some domains completely (if d not in ['alert','media_player','zone'], but that wont make a difference. Would appreciate some help to figure this out

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wait, another go made this work: {%- for d in states|groupby('domain') if d[0] not in [ 'alert','media_player','zone'] %} so I only need to be able to check for 0 entities in a domain and deselect that domain

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 4:21 PM

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What if you used:
{%- for d in states|groupby('domain') if states[d[0]] | list | count > 0 %}

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Or something like that

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Well, that won't work for domains with only entities with state unknown or unavailable

astral turtle Apr 10, 2022, 6:14 PM

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Hi,
Have several sensors that measure outdoor weather, have a template that takes avarage.
The issue is that if one sensor is unavaliable then the average is wrong (in case of 2 sensors it will be just half of the real number).
What is the best approach to solve this issue, ofcourse I could do 'if then', but when there are a lot of sensors construction can get pretty big. Please advise. Thanks!
value_template: >-
{{ (( (states('sensor.filtered_outdoor_humidity_1') | float) +
(states('sensor.filtered_outdoor_humidity_2') | float)
) / 2) | round(0)
}}

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 6:15 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/updating-templates-with-the-new-default-values/346198

astral turtle Apr 10, 2022, 6:18 PM

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thanks

silent barnBOT Apr 10, 2022, 7:03 PM

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@marble jackal posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/xafiqasiqe

marble jackal Apr 10, 2022, 7:05 PM

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Whoops, copied in the original post and forgot to remove it. This is what I wanted to post

I don't think that won't solve the issue.
This might:

{% set sensors =  'sensor.filtered_outdoor_humidity_1, sensor.filtered_outdoor_humidity_2' %}
{{ expand(sensors) | map(attribute='state') | select('is_number') | map('float') | average }}

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Copying part of a message is a pita on discord mobile

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Maybe combined with an availlibility template that at least one sensor should be available

wraith basalt Apr 10, 2022, 8:46 PM

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I'm trying to add a condition to an automation like this:

condition: template
value_template: '{{ states.person|selectattr("state","equalto","home")|list|length > 0 }}'

but i am getting: template value should be a string for dictionary value @ data['value_template']. Got None

I also tried:

condition: template
value_template: '{% states.person|selectattr("state","equalto","home")|list|length > 0 %}'

but that gives me: invalid template (TemplateSyntaxError: Encountered unknown tag 'states'.) for dictionary value @ data['value_template']

Could someone help me out?

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 8:49 PM

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the second doesn't output anything, so it won't work. the first looks fine, and I suspect that the UI editor is hosing it up somehow

wraith basalt Apr 10, 2022, 8:50 PM

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I am using the "edit as yaml" function if that matters here

wraith basalt Apr 10, 2022, 9:13 PM

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I also tried

condition: template
value_template: >-
  {{ states("sensor.schlafzimmer_sensor_temperature") | float >
  states("sensor.openweathermap_temperature") | float }}

which i need for another automation, but i still get
template value should be a string for dictionary value @ data['value_template']. Got None

young jacinth Apr 10, 2022, 9:22 PM

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hey, how do i update a dict entry?

{% set month = 'mai' %}
{% set x = 110 %}
{% set paid = {'januar': 85,'februar': 85,'märz': 85,'april': 85,'mai': 0,'juni': 0,'juli': 0,'august': 0,'september': 0,'oktober': 85,'november': 85,'dezember': 85} %}

i want to update the month of mai with 110 in this example

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 9:25 PM

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you can't directly. you have to create a new dict with a different key/value

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 9:58 PM

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I give up. I can't figure out how to do that in Jinja. Perhaps somebody smarter will come along...

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:38 PM

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I have an NFC tag and i want only the device that scans it to get the notification. Is there a way to do that?

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right now, the "notify" trigger is sent to a specific device.

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:41 PM

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so you have a bunch of android devices and you need a template to divine which one of those been scanned

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:41 PM

#

description: ''
trigger:
  - platform: tag
    tag_id: 80520be9-7d5d-490e-98ff-e08e878ae5d8
condition: []
action:
  - service: notify.mobile_app_schwiingmobile_s22
    data:
      message: command_activity
      data:
        channel: com.google.android.deskclock
        group: >-
          android.intent.extra.alarm.LENGTH:2700,android.intent.extra.alarm.SKIP_UI:true
        tag: android.intent.action.SET_TIMER
mode: single

This is my automation thus far.

silent barnBOT Apr 10, 2022, 10:41 PM

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@odd crystal posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/ijubaqayut

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:41 PM

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However, this says that regardless who scans my tag, it'll notify schwiingmobile_s22

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i want it to notify phone_that_scanned_my_tag

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:45 PM

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hmm maybe you could do it with a helper as well, but I believe a template would be the cleanest looking way (which I don't know)

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:45 PM

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never used templates before. i wouldnt know where to start

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something like a condition?

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:46 PM

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via a helper, you'd have to set it to choose from a list of devices

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from a dropdown list

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:46 PM

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how do you use helpers in automations?

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:46 PM

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it's like any other sensor basically

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:47 PM

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is it a condition? action?

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:47 PM

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only you change the value manually (or via automation)

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no, it's an entity

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which changes value based on what you give it

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:47 PM

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sorry, what category is it under in the automations UI

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:48 PM

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it's not

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go back a screen

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you have autos, scripts, helpers

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:48 PM

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ah, not automations. separate "helpers" i see.

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:48 PM

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scenes

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gah, I hoped there would be someone here who knew the template

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:49 PM

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it would even be OK if i had 2 automations

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one for each device

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"if android_ONE, do X"

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"if android_TWO, do Y"

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i just dont know how to set that condition

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:50 PM

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you can have a lot more, there's no shortage of space or computing for autos afaik

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:50 PM

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huh?

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:51 PM

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ok, so at this point no one has answered us, you could ask for the template again tomorrow

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:51 PM

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no worries.

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so close.

stuck remnant Apr 10, 2022, 10:51 PM

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we go back to #automations-archived sorry for the run around

odd crystal Apr 10, 2022, 10:52 PM

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np

waxen seal Apr 10, 2022, 11:21 PM

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I am cross posting this with #frontend-archived because I am not sure it belongs there or in templates

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I have an attribute with a datetime in it, which I want to display on a markdown card. The attribute looks like this timestamp: '2022-04-04T03:20:00+00:00' I want to display it in local time and don't need anything other than the date, time is not needed. Currently in the markdown card it has "The last update was at {{package.timestamp}}" But of course that displays the whole ugly thing in UTC. I have pored over the template docs for quite some time and can't seem to get it right.

inner mesa Apr 10, 2022, 11:28 PM

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{{ ("2022-04-04T03:20:00+00:00"|as_datetime|as_local).date() }}

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-> 2022-04-03 for me

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might not need the as_datetime if it's already a datetime

bitter atlas Apr 11, 2022, 12:53 AM

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why does state_attr yield additional brackets and hypens in the result when there are none. I have an attribute on a sensor that gives me a url but it spits that result in ['/some/url']

inner mesa Apr 11, 2022, 1:00 AM

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maybe it's really a list of 1 item

bitter atlas Apr 11, 2022, 1:02 AM

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it is, but I don't know why it's doing that

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was an easy fix but took me forever to catch it lol

inner mesa Apr 11, 2022, 1:05 AM

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integrations can do whatever they want in their attributes

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which integration?

waxen seal Apr 11, 2022, 1:20 AM

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inner mesa `{{ ("2022-04-04T03:20:00+00:00"|as_datetime|as_local).date() }}`

Thank you, you certainly pointed me in the right direction. I ended up with {{(package.timestamp|as_local).date()}}

bitter atlas Apr 11, 2022, 1:43 AM

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inner mesa which integration?

it was a custom addon to the IMAP, maybe cause it just adds to the existing rather than replacing it is why the additional attributes was list

waxen seal Apr 11, 2022, 4:38 AM

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inner mesa `{{ ("2022-04-04T03:20:00+00:00"|as_datetime|as_local).date() }}`

Just an additional question if you have time. Where is .date documented?

inner mesa Apr 11, 2022, 4:40 AM

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it's a python method for a datetime: https://docs.python.org/3/library/datetime.html

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Jinja uses Python data structures and you can use their methods

waxen seal Apr 11, 2022, 4:47 AM

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🙂 thought it was probably something like that!

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And now I have made it even better with strftime, you made my day!

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 5:02 AM

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young jacinth hey, how do i update a dict entry? ``` {% set month = 'mai' %} {% set x = 110 ...

You can do it like this. It will also keep the months in order:

{% set month = 'mai' %}
{% set x = 110 %}
{% set paid = {'januar': 85,'februar': 85,'märz': 85,'april': 85,'mai': 0,'juni': 0,'juli': 0,'august': 0,'september': 0,'oktober': 85,'november': 85,'dezember': 85} %}
{% set ns = namespace(paid={}) %}
{% for item in paid.items() | list %}
  {% if item[0] == month %}
    {% set ns.paid = dict(ns.paid, **{ month: x }) %}
  {% else %}
    {% set ns.paid = dict(ns.paid, **{item[0]: item [1] }) %}
  {% endif %}
{% endfor %}
{{ ns.paid }}```

inner mesa Apr 11, 2022, 5:04 AM

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Well, yeah :). I wasn't going anywhere near that 🙂

young jacinth Apr 11, 2022, 5:29 AM

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marble jackal You can do it like this. It will also keep the months in order: ```jinja {% set ...

thanks alot 🙏

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 5:29 AM

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hey how would I take a template from a history_state and multiply it by a constant to get a sensor registering a kWh unit_of_measurement?

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the history_state is 1h over a duration of 365.25 days

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right now I have:

   - platfrom: energy
     id: heating_oil_usage
     unit_of_measurement: 'kWh'
     value_template: {{ states('sensor.hourly_furnace_runtime') * 33.410107 }}

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 5:33 AM

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states are always strings, so you need to cast it to a float and you need to place quotes around your template if you use a single line

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 5:34 AM

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so {{ states('sensor.hourly_furnace_runtime') | float * 33.410107 }}

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 5:34 AM

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And quotes around it

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 5:34 AM

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or {{ parseFloat(states('sensor.hourly_furnace_runtime')) * 33.410107 }}

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 5:35 AM

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Double quotes, as you use single ones inside

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Just use float( something ) then

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 5:37 AM

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I'm getting: 2022-04-11 01:36:48 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.bootstrap] Failed to parse configuration.yaml: invalid key: "OrderedDict([("float(states('sensor.hourly_furnace_runtime')) * 33.410107", None)])"

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it seems to be casting my float back to a string...

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 5:51 AM

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What is the complete code you gave now for this sensor

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 5:52 AM

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https://pastebin.com/wgNTCXmA

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 5:53 AM

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young jacinth thanks alot 🙏

BTW, you could also use this more simple version which will put the month (mai) at the end of the dict

{% set month = 'mai' %}
{% set x = 110 %}
{% set paid = {'januar': 85,'februar': 85,'märz': 85,'april': 85,'mai': 0,'juni': 0,'juli': 0,'august': 0,'september': 0,'oktober': 85,'november': 85,'dezember': 85} %}
{{ dict(paid.items() | rejectattr('0', 'eq', month) | list, **{ month: x }) }}

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Scratch all that, this works and keeps the order intact

{% set month = 'mai' %}
{% set x = 110 %}
{% set paid = {'januar': 85,'februar': 85,'märz': 85,'april': 85,'mai': 0,'juni': 0,'juli': 0,'august': 0,'september': 0,'oktober': 85,'november': 85,'dezember': 85} %}
{{ dict(paid, **{ month: x }) }}

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 6:03 AM

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any Idea for the energy sensor? I just tried {{ float(parseFloat(states('sensor.hourly_furnace_runtime')) * 33.410107) }} and its still going into safemode

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 6:05 AM

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I told you 2 times now that you need to place quotes around your template

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 6:06 AM

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quotes outside the curly braces?

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 6:06 AM

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   - platfrom: energy
     id: heating_oil_usage
     unit_of_measurement: 'kWh'
     value_template: "{{ float(states('sensor.hourly_furnace_runtime')) * 33.410107 }}"

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Yes

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Otherwise it will treat it as a dict

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 6:07 AM

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thanks, I didn't register that when you said quotes I thought you meant around the float method

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 6:08 AM

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Or use the multi line format as you did in the other template (using >-)

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 6:16 AM

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@marble jackal do you know why the id / entity_id does not appear in developer tools under states?

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 6:17 AM

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Don't know, check the log

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Not sure if that id key is accepted

versed shore Apr 11, 2022, 6:22 AM

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maybe it should be entity_id

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 6:25 AM

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Can't find any docs on this platform energy sensor

floral shuttle Apr 11, 2022, 7:02 AM

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marble jackal What if you used: `{%- for d in states|groupby('domain') if states[d[0]] | list ...

thanks, this is getting closer (added the counter to check if that works as expected): {%- for d in states|groupby('domain') if d[0] not in ['alarm_control_panel','alert','automation', 'counter','media_player','proximity','scene','zone'] %} **{{- d[0]}}:** *({{states[d[0]] |selectattr('state','in',['unavailable','unknown']) |list|count}})* {% for i in d[1] if i.state in ['unavailable','unknown'] -%} > {{i.name}}: *{{i.state}}* {% endfor %} {%- endfor -%} but yes, it still lists the domains with count 0

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btw, this is the markdown version hence the **, * and > and specific whitespace killers

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        content: >
          {%- for d in states|groupby('domain') if
              d[0] not in ['alarm_control_panel','alert','automation','button',
                           'counter','media_player','proximity','scene','zone'] and
              states[d[0]]|selectattr('state','in',['unavailable','unknown'])|list|count != 0 %}
            **{{- d[0]}}:** *({{states[d[0]]
                               |selectattr('state','in',['unavailable','unknown'])
                               |list|count}})*
            {% for i in d[1] if i.state in ['unavailable','unknown'] -%}
            > {{i.name}}: *{{i.state}}*
            {% endfor %}
          {%- endfor -%}``` does the job 😉

tepid onyx Apr 11, 2022, 7:29 AM

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what is {{- d[0]}}:

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**{{- d[0]}}:**

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fukn escape

floral shuttle Apr 11, 2022, 7:37 AM

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tidied that up a bit:```
{% set x = ['unavailable','unknown'] %}
{% set exclude_domains = ['alarm_control_panel','alert','automation','button',
'counter','media_player','proximity','scene'] %}

      {%- for d in states|groupby('domain') if d[0] not in exclude_domains and
          states[d[0]]|selectattr('state','in',x)|list|count != 0 %}
        **{{- d[0]}}:** *({{states[d[0]]
                           |selectattr('state','in',x)
                           |list|count}})*
        {% for i in d[1] if i.state in x -%}
        > {{i.name}}: *{{i.state}}*
        {% endfor %}
      {%- endfor -%}```

tepid onyx Apr 11, 2022, 7:38 AM

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floral shuttle tidied that up a bit:``` {% set x = ['unavailable','unknown'] %} ...

can you explain what **{{- d[0]}}:** does ?

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more specifically the asterix

floral shuttle Apr 11, 2022, 7:40 AM

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as I said above, thats a markdown code , see https://www.markdownguide.org/cheat-sheet/

tepid onyx Apr 11, 2022, 7:40 AM

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missed that...thanks

floral shuttle Apr 11, 2022, 7:41 AM

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but there's 1 spot in the template I can leave the [0] out I guess, in d not in exclude_domains. no, thats not true, need that for the domain filter too..

tepid onyx Apr 11, 2022, 7:41 AM

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oh it's just markdown i thought it was part of jinja

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cool

floral shuttle Apr 11, 2022, 7:45 AM

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yeah, you can do very nice things with that, but this is my default markdown toolset, bold, italic and paragraph. Most other things I tend to use card-mod for, although one can also use the # header options with good result

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and you need to test it in the frontend, because dev template only creates the correct template result, but not the formatting...

tepid onyx Apr 11, 2022, 7:46 AM

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sweet 👍

floral shuttle Apr 11, 2022, 8:08 AM

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yeah, sweet indeed, what isnt so sweet though, is when editing these heavier templates in dev tools and during editing the interpreter tries to create an output, my Ping sensors always go down. and because there is a flaw in that integration, if 1 goes down they all go down... and set off all kinds of alarms in the home, checking to see if my essential hubs are down 😭

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as for the d[0] functionality, it takes the first item in the list of the domain object, you can see for yourself when you do {%- for d in states|groupby('domain') %} {{- d}} {% endfor %} instead.

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 8:50 AM

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'{{ iif(states.input_number.volume_level.context.user_id) }}'

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I used this in a condition til now to only make an automation trigger when that input is changed manually by me

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but what if I needed the opposite

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for the input to only trigger when changed automatically by automation?

nocturne chasm Apr 11, 2022, 9:37 AM

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Easiest way is to flip an input boolean as the first service of your action. Then you can use the input boolean in the condition of other automations. Then when it makes sense, turn the input boolean off

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I get notifications when my thermostat mode and temp change, but only if changed manually, not by an automation.

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 9:40 AM

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cheers

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I will experiment with this

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but isn't there also a template

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like to change context.user_id to something denoting an auto action

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i.e. not by user

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 9:43 AM

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'{{ not iif(states.input_number.volume_level.context.user_id) }}'

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 9:43 AM

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wow

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thanks , turns out Im not that bright :))

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 9:44 AM

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Or '{{ iif(states.input_number.volume_level.context.user_id, false, true) }}'

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 9:45 AM

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cheers

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:02 AM

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I have a template binary_sensor that is based on two template sensors. I'm having trouble getting the binary_sensor to reevaluate when I change the templates for the template sensors and then reload template entities.

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https://www.codepile.net/pile/ELq75a9A

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when I run the template in developer tools, it's showing the expected value. So it must just be something missing from the triggers on the template binary_sensor.

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 11:05 AM

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remove the trigger from the binary_sensor

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then it will be state based

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Not sure if you need triggers for the other ones as well

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:06 AM

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I need the triggers on the binary sensor because I want it to trigger at the time seen in the other two sensors. There will not be a state change at that time.

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Unless there's another way to do that?

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:07 AM

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that template will only update when you change the state of your entities, when the time occurs, and restart

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if you want it to update on a period in relation to now, you need to add a time_pattern trigger

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:07 AM

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I added a every 5 seconds time trigger and that works just fine, but that's less than ideal.

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 11:08 AM

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remove tht trigger completely, you don't need it

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:08 AM

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a template like that, with removed triggers, will only update once per minute

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:08 AM

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shouldn't this pick up the reload of the template entities:

    - platform: event
      event_type: event_template_reloaded

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@mighty ledge because of the now() it'll update every minute?

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:08 AM

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yes

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only if you remove the triggers

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otherwise, it'll only update on the triggers

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:08 AM

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I guess that's wasteful, but, better than it not updating at all.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:09 AM

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your updating options are: Triggers or entities inside the template without the triggers

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:10 AM

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right. I was trying to fine tune the triggers to cover all the cases where it should update. But, catching the reload of template entities themselves seems to be the issue.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:10 AM

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the template reload occurs before the templates reload

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so, it never effects template sensors itself

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:10 AM

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ugh.

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 11:10 AM

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This should work fine as well https://www.codepile.net/pile/2g5Nn6eQ

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:13 AM

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I'll be honest, I don't get your templates for the out_front_lighting_start and end

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:13 AM

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marble jackal This should work fine as well https://www.codepile.net/pile/2g5Nn6eQ

I just tried that, and it does work... right now? But my worry is that this part will be missed:

#     - platform: time
#       at: sensor.out_front_lighting_start
#     - platform: time
#       at: sensor.out_front_lighting_end

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But I guess it'll trigger within a minute according to @mighty ledge, so that's probably good enough.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:14 AM

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what's this trying to do?

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the whole setup

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just have a 2 hour period before and after sunset that's on for 2 hours?

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:15 AM

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set a lighting window for outdoor lighting. 2 hours before sunrise through 2 hours after sunset. But also with literal max/min times. So... if two hours before sunset is 8am, then it still starts at 6am.

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I want the lights on during the "dark" times when people are awake, but also late enough/early enough that it ALWAYS includes the times we typically leave the house or get home.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:16 AM

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ok

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you can change

{%- set window_start_max = (next_rising.year|string + '-' + next_rising.month|string 
              + '-' + next_rising.day|string + ' ' + '06:00:00')|as_datetime|as_local
        -%}

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to

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{%- set window_start_max = today_at('06:00') %}

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unless it's tomorrow

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:17 AM

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that works even if the next rising is tomorrow. yeah.

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?

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:18 AM

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no but you could still change it

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{%- set window_start_max = next_rising.date() ~ ' 06:00:00')|as_datetime|as_local -%}

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:18 AM

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what does the "~" do?

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:19 AM

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adds 2 objects together and ensures both sides of the addition are strings

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:19 AM

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oh nice!

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yes. that works. and much easier to read.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:21 AM

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I still think there's room for improvement in that, but I just woke up and I'm not thinking straight

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:22 AM

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without the triggers, all three of these are evaluating every minute (since they all include now()). So I can probably get rid of this block now too:

        {%- if now() + timedelta(days=1) < window_start -%}
          {%- set window_start = window_start - timedelta(days=1) -%}
        {%- endif -%}

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:23 AM

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if you get rid of now that template won't resolve every minute

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:23 AM

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.... blink.... blink.... of course. it's early for me too....

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:24 AM

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SO, you're just trying to make a binary sensor that is on or off for your timeperiod?

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:24 AM

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yes.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:24 AM

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Ok, I think this can be optimized. Give me like 5 minutes

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To think about it

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:24 AM

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okay. thank you!

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:31 AM

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shell arrow okay. thank you!

So to clarify, you're trying to show a window between todays current rising and falling? You remove the day when it falls into tomorrow because it's past that point in time?

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Basically, looking at that code, it should never have tomorrows date even when next rising is tomorrow

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:33 AM

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I had to remove the day because if it evaluated after the sun set, but before the window elapsed, next_setting was tomorrow.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:33 AM

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ok

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so to reiterate, your goal is to always have a timestamp for today, and you really don't care about tomorrow

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endgoal is to just have an on/off for todays timespan

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:34 AM

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correct. IDEALLY as soon as the window elapsed the values would be set to to tomorrows information. But, if that happens at midnight, that's fine too.

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yes.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:34 AM

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right, but
"window elapsed the values would be set to to tomorrows information"
doesn't really need to happen

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:35 AM

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as long as it happens before the next window starts, it's fine.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:35 AM

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ok

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:35 AM

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yeah. that part doesn't mater, I don't think, if it's evaluating every minute.

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though... maybe it still does. sun.sun will show tomorrows times as soon as the rising/setting event for today has passed. If it evaluates every minute, then on the next evaluation after sunset, both rising and setting times will be tomorrow and the current time will no longer be "in the window" even though I would still want it "on".

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subtracting the day brings it back to today's times (though, technically, not 100% accurate since sun rise/set times are slightly different every day... but it's close enough for this purpose. I imagine there might be some weird case around start/end of daylight savings time but, that's fine).

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If I didn't care about the 06:00 and 21:30 max/min times, how would I create a sensor that was always set to 2 hours after today's sunset? Because, if I can make that, I can use another template sensor to handle the min/max cases based on the time produced by that.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:44 AM

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shell arrow yeah. that part doesn't mater, I don't think, if it's evaluating every minute.

so this is what I would do

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- binary_sensor:
  - name: past_rising
    state: >
      {%- set next_rising = state_attr('sun.sun', 'next_rising')|as_datetime|as_local - timedelta(hours=2) -%}
      {%- set offset = timedelta(days=1) %}
      {%- set next_rising = next_rising - offset if next_rising > today_at() + offset else next_rising %}
      {{ now() > min(next_rising, today_at("06:00")) }}

  - name: before_falling
    state: >
      {%- set next_setting = state_attr('sun.sun', 'next_setting')|as_datetime|as_local + timedelta(hours=2) -%}
      {%- set offset = timedelta(days=1) %}
      {%- set next_setting = next_setting - offset if next_setting > today_at() + offset else next_setting %}
      {{ now() < max(next_setting, today_at("21:30")) }}

  - name: out_front_lighting
    state: >
      {{ expand('binary_sensor.past_rising', 'binary_sensor.before_falling') | selectattr('state','eq','on') | list | length == 2 }}

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that would resolve properly at all times, including reload

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:45 AM

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groking. one sec.

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what does today_at() do when you don't give a time?

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:46 AM

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00:00:00

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so, the only thing is, it wouldn't fire perfectly at 2 hours before next setting etc

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it'll be on the minute

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so if the setting falls at like 24 seconds, it'll turn on at the following 0

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:47 AM

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yeah. that's good enough for this case.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:48 AM

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there was a typo

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fixed

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was using next_rising in next_setting.

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:49 AM

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this is better, because at least only two of them evaluate every minute, where, my version had all three going every minute.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:49 AM

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you could easily turn it into 1 template

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:50 AM

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yeah. but it'd be the same amount of "work" for HA every minute, right? I'd still need all the same computation to happen.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:50 AM

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- binary_sensor:
  - name: out_front_lighting
    state: >
      {%- set offset = timedelta(days=1) %}
      {%- set next_rising = state_attr('sun.sun', 'next_rising')|as_datetime|as_local - timedelta(hours=2) -%}
      {%- set next_rising = next_rising - offset if next_rising > today_at() + offset else next_rising %}
      {%- set next_setting = state_attr('sun.sun', 'next_setting')|as_datetime|as_local + timedelta(hours=2) -%}
      {%- set next_setting = next_setting - offset if next_setting > today_at() + offset else next_setting %}
      {{ min(next_rising, today_at("06:00")) <= now() <= max(next_setting, today_at("21:30")) }}

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:51 AM

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I have plenty of CPU to throw at it. So it shouldn't be an issue. I just like to optimize as much as I can upfront because once it's working, I'll forget about it.

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right.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:51 AM

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it's up to you

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I personally make everything an 'on/off'

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or I make everything an event

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:52 AM

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on/off is what I aim for too, usually. In this case, I made timestamp sensors because it helped me to see the values for debugging.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:53 AM

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So, have you used this all year?

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because I see potential issues with this and your old template

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:54 AM

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I've not used it at all. I am currently doing this same thing using an entirely different method (pyscript code) and I'm trying to move it into something more standard just to see if I can.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:54 AM

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so you haven't ran into an issue when the days are shrinking in your pyscript?

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:54 AM

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no.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:54 AM

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so........ the days shrink by 3 minutes

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so you could have a scenario where you turn on, then immediately turn off after next rising changes to tomorrow, and then it'll turn on again

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 11:57 AM

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trying to see that corner case myself in this. I think I don't have that issue with the pyscript code because I'm computing rise/set using the astral package instead of relying on data from sun.sun.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 11:58 AM

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yep

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 12:03 PM

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ahhh. i see the issue with shrinking days now. grrr.

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the only way around it that I can see (and I don't like it) is to use two input_datetimes and an automation that triggers at midnight. In that automation, set the datetimes to the rise/set times in sun.sun at that exact moment. Then use those input_datetimes for all the computations in this.

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If I use two template sensors that trigger at midnight, when I reload template entities, they will be "unknown" until midnight occurs, right?

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 12:09 PM

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right

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sun.sun is due for an overhaul because of issues like this

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 12:12 PM

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yeah. but... even then, how would you cover everyone's weird use cases? lol. Does resetting the values in sun.sun only at midnight work for everyone? what about people with really long days and/or really long nights?

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 12:12 PM

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by separating todays rising and tomorrows rising

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 12:13 PM

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oooh. yeah. that would do it.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 12:13 PM

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it's done in sun2, a custom integration

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 12:13 PM

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looking at that now.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 12:13 PM

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which is also more accurate

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 12:13 PM

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Is there and advantage of using {{ expand('binary_sensor.past_rising', 'binary_sensor.before_falling') | selectattr('state','eq','on') | list | length == 2 }} instead of {{ is_state('binary_sensor.past_rising', 'on') and is_state('binary_sensor.before_falling', 'on') }}

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 12:13 PM

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marble jackal Is there and advantage of using `{{ expand('binary_sensor.past_rising', 'binary_...

the biggest advantage, at least for me, is that I learned something new in jinja templates. 🙂

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 12:14 PM

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expand a really nice function 🙂

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 12:32 PM

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okay. now I have sun2. this should make it a lot easier.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 12:34 PM

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Yeah, sun2 is nice and it's more accurate. Although there was changes that made sun.sun as accurate as sun2

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awhile back

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 12:39 PM

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just having the today/yesterday/tomorrow bits is helping a lot here.

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does today_at() in a template sensor cause evaluation every minute?

tepid onyx Apr 11, 2022, 12:56 PM

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petro 👍

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 12:56 PM

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2022-04-11T12:51:07+00:00 this is the actual state for the entity im trying to automate. This is the template im using: {{ ( now() - states('sensor.thegoat420_lastactive') | as_datetime).total_seconds() >= 9 }}

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it doesn't trigger, condition comes back as false

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https://pastebin.com/84mqpvQi

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the last active sensor is a user input sensor for windows10

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it resets each time I move the mouse

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in dev tools the stamp shows as above, but in the UI it looks clean, always shows how many seconds from the last time I moved the mouse or whatever

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:00 PM

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stuck remnant it resets each time I move the mouse

presumably, when it updates, it's set the the current time. which would be the same as now(). Since the condition only evaluates after the trigger, it will always be == 0

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You could make this template be the trigger, but, templates with now() are only evaluated every minute, so, it wouldn't trigger at exactly 9 seconds.

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instead, you should set "mode" to "restart" and add a 9 second delay to the top of the action.

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:02 PM

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oh so I need to give it a minute when testing either way?

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ok, doing that.

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:02 PM

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if you use the delay I mentioned, it'll happen exactly 9 seconds after thegoat420_lastactive is updated.

steep mulch Apr 11, 2022, 1:08 PM

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hi guys i hope i write in the right place..
can some one explain me how to configure a switch as a light from .yaml?

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my configuration is working whit no problem but i would love to have it set as a light instead as a switch

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:10 PM

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I dont know from yaml but you can use the helpers tab

steep mulch Apr 11, 2022, 1:13 PM

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i know that but if its possbile from yaml that will be amazing 🙂

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:13 PM

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@shell arrow https://pastebin.com/UDd3BSdp

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is this the way you meant?

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:17 PM

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stuck remnant <@412244727887560716> https://pastebin.com/UDd3BSdp

mostly. you don't need the condition at all any more.

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:18 PM

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without the condition it triggers with every state change

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each second

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:19 PM

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stuck remnant without the condition it triggers with every state change

it triggers, yes. But the bathroom_fan doesn't toggle because 9 seconds haven't elapsed before it triggers again.

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:20 PM

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just for the record, the 9 seconds and the switch are just there until I can see it working then I can change the timing and device

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:20 PM

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steep mulch hi guys i hope i write in the right place.. can some one explain me how to confi...

it's not a "simple" yaml to make a switch look like a light. Using the helper does all the work for you. But, if you want to go down that road anyway, you're going to need a "light" template.

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:22 PM

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stuck remnant just for the record, the 9 seconds and the switch are just there until I can see...

if you want to keep it from triggering, you can do this instead:

trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id: sensor.thegoat420_lastactive
    for: 9

and then get rid of the delay (and leave the condition or get rid of it, it won't matter)

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:22 PM

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no, the point of making the automation is I want it to work

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:23 PM

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haha. no. I mean... it will work with the "for".

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:23 PM

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shell arrow it triggers, yes. But the bathroom_fan doesn't toggle because 9 seconds haven't ...

ok Im trying but just so you know what you said last time did happen, the fan did turn on

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:23 PM

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you have a sensor that basically updates CONSTANTLY when it's being used, and doesn't update at all when the thing isn't being used. So, with the trigger above, you're just waiting for it to stop updating for 9 seconds. I think that does what you want.

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:24 PM

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stuck remnant ok Im trying but just so you know what you said last time did happen, the fan di...

the fan turned on, after 9 seconds, right?

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:24 PM

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lemme check

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:25 PM

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if you do the "trigger" with "for" like above, you don't need the condition, the delay, or the mode: restart. You're just going to wait for it to stop changing for 9 seconds. This assumes that it changes constantly (at least once every 9 seconds) when it is in use.

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trigger:
  - platform: state
    entity_id: sensor.thegoat420_lastactive
    for: 9
action:
   - service: switch.toggle
     data:
       entity_id: switch.bathroom_fan

This means, wait for the state of thegoat420_lastactive to change and KEEP THAT VALUE for 9 seconds, then toggle the fan.

steep mulch Apr 11, 2022, 1:27 PM

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shell arrow it's not a "simple" yaml to make a switch look like a light. Using the helper do...

do you know wehre i can find an example?

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:27 PM

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if the value changes after 5 seconds, say, then then it doesn't trigger.

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:28 PM

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steep mulch do you know wehre i can find an example?

the only thing I know of is the light.template docs https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light.template/

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your "turn_on" will be "switch.turn_on". your turn_off will be "switch.turn_off". you can do nothing with set_temperature, set_color, set_white_value, etc... since you don't actually have a light. value_template wil have to look at the state of the switch, etc, etc.

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:33 PM

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steep mulch do you know wehre i can find an example?

In an old post from petro, there is this:

light:
  - platform: switch
    name: Light Name
    entity_id: switch.name_switch
  - platform: switch
    name: Light Name 2
    entity_id: switch.name_switch_2

Not sure if this syntax still works, but you could try it.

stuck remnant Apr 11, 2022, 1:37 PM

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swift thanks for the help I think I ve got it

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it works as you described

mental violet Apr 11, 2022, 1:38 PM

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Hi, I want to put a service in an automation which turns on input_booleans with a specific entity_id and a specific state.

data: {}
target:
  entity_id:
    {{states.input_boolean |selectattr('object_id', 'search', 'is_fixkosten')|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|map(attribute='entity_id')|list }}
``` like this, but what is the right synstax?

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:42 PM

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mental violet Hi, I want to put a service in an automation which turns on input_booleans with ...

is "is_fixkosten" part of an entity_id?

mental violet Apr 11, 2022, 1:42 PM

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yes

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:42 PM

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change "object_id" to "entity_id", I think. and it works?

mental violet Apr 11, 2022, 1:44 PM

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{{states.input_boolean |selectattr('object_id', 'search', 'is_fixkosten')|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|map(attribute='entity_id')|list }}
this gives me the right entity_ids I want to change. But I dont know how to put this statement into a service call

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:44 PM

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service: input_boolean.turn_on
data:
  entity_id: "{{ blah blah blah|list }}"

mental violet Apr 11, 2022, 1:45 PM

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thank you 😄

shell arrow Apr 11, 2022, 1:45 PM

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you can probably do it with "target" too... I'm just not sure because I rarely use it.

marble jackal Apr 11, 2022, 2:35 PM

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target works as well

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just not:

service: input_boolean.turn_on
entity_id: "{{ blah blah blah|list }}"

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That field doesn't accept templates

acoustic fox Apr 11, 2022, 5:36 PM

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Hey guys, im have some hard times with one of the param of a template cover. Im using shelly for controlling my covers, and im trying to do a template cover, where the original cover entitys position 1-25% is defined as 1% in the template cover, and the 26-100 percent is the other 99. I need that because the shelly calibration is don't take in consideration the roller blinds holes (between the bars) that take some time to close.
So, my problem is that the set_cover position not working properly. With that config (in the next message) the slider (or simply call the service) act as the original cover. How should i change that to work with the positions i set in the template?

silent barnBOT Apr 11, 2022, 5:36 PM

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@acoustic fox posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/xolozagine

merry marsh Apr 11, 2022, 7:34 PM

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Is there/does someone have an example for a template sensor, which solves the same requirements, where I would use state for x minutes in an automation or delay_on in an binary template sensor? I want to set a state only when another criteria is in a certain state for x minutes.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 9:10 PM

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merry marsh Is there/does someone have an example for a template sensor, which solves the sa...

You can use triggers with templates

merry marsh Apr 11, 2022, 9:14 PM

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mighty ledge You can use triggers with templates

Yes. Thanks. Perhaps my intention was not clear. I know this, could also use an automation or helper or variable, etc.

I was more interested in, how such things could be solved within a template. To learn and play around.

mighty ledge Apr 11, 2022, 9:39 PM

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merry marsh Yes. Thanks. Perhaps my intention was not clear. I know this, could also use an ...

Maybe you aren't understanding me, you can use triggers with template sensors

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Templates are limited to current information only. So you can only do so much with timing in templates

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docs -> https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#trigger

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example -> https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#storing-webhook-information

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here's a complex example -> https://github.com/Petro31/home-assistant-config/blob/33d2776a9aa31ebcb037e7051bdab97d59c3e8d3/template/humidity.yaml#L46

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at one point I had a duration on one of those triggers but removed it in favor of something else

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Otherwise you have to calc it yourself and hope your state didn't change over the duration you're checking against

mental violet Apr 12, 2022, 8:25 AM

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Hi, is there a filter for this expression:
selectattr('state','eq','on') for 2 mins
? Thank you^^

swift lance Apr 12, 2022, 10:20 AM

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hello, i have this template for a restful sensor

value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.cmi', 'Outputs') | selectattr('Number', 'eq', 1) | map(attribute='Value.Value') | join }} "

now some of these Value.Value are binary
i try do get the number 1 or 0 and make it a word, on/off

value_template: "{{ 'On' if is_state('sensor.cmi_xxx', '1') else 'Off' }}"

The second value template would work, however i dont want two sensors.
How would i combine the second template into the first one? I dont understand the jinja2 expressions, prob very easy if you know how.
Thanks

marble jackal Apr 12, 2022, 12:18 PM

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mental violet Hi, is there a filter for this expression: selectattr('state','eq','on') for 2 m...

No, you will have to compare the last_changedobject of the entity with the current time as well

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This should work | selectattr('state','eq','on') | selectattr('last_changed', '<', now() - timedelta(minutes = 2))

swift lance Apr 12, 2022, 5:24 PM

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swift lance hello, i have this template for a restful sensor ```value_template: "{{ state_a...

so i did some experimenting and came to this:

value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.cmi', 'Outputs') | selectattr('Number', 'eq', 1) | map(attribute='Value.Value') | join | replace('1', 'On') | replace('0', 'Off') }} "

Not pretty but functional, maybe someone can me give me something how to solve it different and more correct, for me to learn. Thanks 🙂

marble jackal Apr 12, 2022, 5:54 PM

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value_template: "{{ 'On' if state_attr('sensor.cmi', 'Outputs') | selectattr('Number', 'eq', 1) | map(attribute='Value.Value') | join == '1' else 'Off' }}"

swift lance Apr 12, 2022, 6:01 PM

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marble jackal `value_template: "{{ 'On' if state_attr('sensor.cmi', 'Outputs') | selectattr('N...

thanks 👍

wraith basalt Apr 12, 2022, 9:03 PM

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I'm trying to create variables in a script with the context id included, but i'm getting:
UndefinedError: 'context' is undefined

That's my code for the variables:

variables:
  action_yes: '{{ ''YES_'' ~ context.id }}'
  action_no: '{{ ''NO_'' ~ context.id }}'

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Okay i found the problem

olive dust Apr 12, 2022, 9:14 PM

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Quick question: I had this working last week, but I'm not sure if between updating to 2022.4 or me tinkering with the dashboard, something got tweaked somewhere.

I have an automation that calls a shell script that posts a sensor state to a slack channel:

service: shell_command.slack_topic
data: {{ states('sensor.weekly_special') }}

however, when I click Run Actions and view the trace, it's being replaced with

service: shell_command.slack_topic
data:
  '[object Object]': null

Has anyone seen this before?

inner mesa Apr 13, 2022, 3:03 AM

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You need to surround the template in quotes

olive dust Apr 13, 2022, 3:55 AM

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updated to

service: shell_command.slack_topic
    data: "{{ states('sensor.weekly_special') }}"

which is then 'autocorrected' to

service: shell_command.slack_topic
    data: '{{ states(''sensor.weekly_special'') }}'

and says "Error: Error rendering data template: Result is not a Dictionary"

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Tried via yaml editor in the HA interface as well as editing via nano

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Also, getting the right output via the template debugger under Developer Tools

naive swan Apr 13, 2022, 4:07 AM

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Is there a template that would work to make a sensor showing how many minutes an entity has been in its current state?

inner mesa Apr 13, 2022, 4:14 AM

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olive dust Also, getting the right output via the template debugger under Developer Tools

Oh, you're also missing an actual key. And I don't think you can even do that. There's no indication in the docs

olive dust Apr 13, 2022, 4:20 AM

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inner mesa Oh, you're also missing an actual key. And I don't think you can even do that. ...

which docs are you looking at, perchance? It usedto work, I know that much. But it was probably somewhat hacked together at the time lol

inner mesa Apr 13, 2022, 4:25 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/shell_command/

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data: is not a key, it's a dict, which contains key/value pairs

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and it wouldn't be indented like that in any case

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 9:39 AM

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Hi all, struggling to create a value template for a sensor. the sensor scrapes a value from the web, and gets something like "Next Collection: 8 days from now on Thursday, 21 April 2022"
In the template editor in dev tools, I have:
{% set text = states.sensor.blackbin.state %}
{{ text.split(', ')[-1].strip() if ',' in text else text.strip() }}
which outputs the date part as a string. Im really struggling to understand how to convert this to a date in a value template

arctic sorrel Apr 13, 2022, 9:46 AM

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What is the output you're getting, and what are you trying to do with the result?

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#time and strptime is likely what you want

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 10:02 AM

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arctic sorrel What is the output you're getting, and what are you trying to do with the result...

the output from the template editor is a string, "21 April 2022". However, if I use that code as a value template in configuration.yaml, its empty

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the result should be able to be referenced by an automation to remind me to put the bin out, so a date comparison

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 10:12 AM

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What's the full YAML for the template sensor

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 10:21 AM

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marble jackal What's the full YAML for the template sensor

platform: scrape
name: blackbin
resource: https://www.n-kesteven.org.uk/bins/display?uprnXXXXXXXXXXXX
select: "#content > div > div > div.bin-dates > div.bg-black.text-white.bin-black-next.bins-next.position-relative > p:nth-child(2) > strong"
value_template: >-
{% set text = states.sensor.blackbin.state %}
{{ text.split(', ')[-1].strip() if ',' in text else text.strip() }}

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 10:23 AM

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You are referring to the same sensor right? That won't work

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 10:24 AM

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marble jackal You are referring to the same sensor right? That won't work

Yes, Im finding this all a bit confusing! Not great with templates, and I found the docs didnt seem to help me understand it much 😦

crystal nest Apr 13, 2022, 10:27 AM

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Guys, my goal is to use 2 conditional cards to show either "Switch on server using WoL" if off, or "Show server stats from mqtt json" if on. Issue is how to determine "is on". My thoughts were that since I include the date time stamp in my sent mqtt json, I could do an "If now() > last received json (MyServer/timestamp + 10 minutes), then the server is off" Time stamp is in the format now.strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S"). Anyone want to point me in the direction of the jinja to put that into a template binary sensor?

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 10:28 AM

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Remove the {% set text %} part and replace text with value

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Assuming the part after select: is correct

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 10:58 AM

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marble jackal Remove the `{% set text %}` part and replace `text` with `value`

I have this now

value_template: >-
  {{ value.split(', ')[-1].strip() if ',' in text else text.strip() }}

which gives me a state of "unknown"

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oops typo.. i ll try again

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 11:01 AM

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marble jackal Remove the `{% set text %}` part and replace `text` with `value`

ok, I now have a state of "Next Collection: 8 days from now on Thursday, 21 April 2022"

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 11:02 AM

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echo oracle ok, I now have a state of "Next Collection: 8 days from now on Thursday, 21 Apri...

using

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sensor:

platform: scrape
name: blackbin
resource: https://www.n-kesteven.org.uk/bins/display?uprn=XXXXXXXXXXX
select: "#content > div > div > div.bin-dates > div.bg-black.text-white.bin-black-next.bins-next.position-relative > p:nth-child(2) > strong"
value_template: >-
{{ value.split(', ')[-1].strip() if ',' in text else value.strip() }}
scan_interval: 86400

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right, missed a "test" in the middle, its now returning a state of "21 April 2022"

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 11:32 AM

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That was the idea right?

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 11:39 AM

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I need to have a device class of timestamp somehow

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 11:39 AM

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customize.yaml

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 11:42 AM

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mighty ledge customize.yaml

could you expand on that please? I now have a sensor, with a state that is a string containing the date, how do I convert that to a timestamp?

silent barnBOT Apr 13, 2022, 11:45 AM

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By default, all of your devices will be visible and have a default icon determined by their domain. See customizing devices for how to change that.

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 11:45 AM

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see manual customization in that link

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 11:47 AM

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that link does not explain how to change from a string to a timestamp

faint crater Apr 13, 2022, 12:01 PM

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How can I use a template in a payload for an MQTT switch? This, for example, is just sending the literal string rather than interpolating the payload:

payload_off: >-
  {"value": {{ 1 if is_state('switch.charger', 'on') else 4 } }}

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:07 PM

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Your closing curly brackets do not match the opening brackets

faint crater Apr 13, 2022, 12:07 PM

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Sorry, typo in my white-spacing

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Should be:

payload_off: >-
  {"value": {{ 1 if is_state('switch.charger', 'on') else 4 }} }

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:08 PM

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That looks better already

faint crater Apr 13, 2022, 12:09 PM

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Well, maybe, but it doesn't work 🙂

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:10 PM

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echo oracle that link does not explain how to change from a string to a timestamp

What's the format of your time string then?

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:10 PM

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mighty ledge What's the format of your time string then?

"21 April 2022"

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:18 PM

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faint crater Well, maybe, but it doesn't work 🙂

Does it work in devtools > template?

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:19 PM

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echo oracle "21 April 2022"

You have to use strptime to convert that to a datetime https://www.strftime.org

tepid onyx Apr 13, 2022, 12:24 PM

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yo dudes

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laptops got no pubes need some charging back soon

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:27 PM

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mighty ledge You have to use strptime to convert that to a datetime <https://www.strftime.org...

Have tried:
{{strptime(states('sensor.blackbin'), '%d/%m/%Y')}}
which still returns a string of 21 April 2022

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I though %m would change April to 04

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:28 PM

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echo oracle Have tried: {{strptime(states('sensor.blackbin'), '%d/%m/%Y')}} which still retu...

do you have / in your string "21 April 2002"?

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||you don't||

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:29 PM

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mighty ledge do you have / in your string "21 April 2002"?

No, I also tried
{{ strptime(states('sensor.blackbin'), "%d %m %Y") }} which gives the same output

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:29 PM

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Are you doing this in the scrape sensor itself?

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:29 PM

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at the moment, Im doing it in Devtools - Template

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:30 PM

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echo oracle No, I also tried {{ strptime(states('sensor.blackbin'), "%d %m %Y") }} which gi...

OK, and what does https://strftime.org say for converting something to April?

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:30 PM

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so the scrape sensor alread has the value 21 April 2022 as the state

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:30 PM

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mighty ledge OK, and what does <https://strftime.org> say for converting something to April?

%m 09 Month as a zero-padded decimal number.

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:30 PM

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and is the word April 04?

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:31 PM

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the word is just april, I thought it would change it to 04

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:31 PM

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so what %<letter> gets you the word April?

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you're converting your String to a datetime object

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:31 PM

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%Better use something else then

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:32 PM

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strptime takes the string and format and uses the format to convert the string

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so you're saying convert a 04 month when you're providing a word month

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

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mighty ledge strptime takes the string and format and uses the format to convert the string

ah ha! {{ strptime(states('sensor.blackbin'), "%d %B %Y") }} now give me 2022-04-21 00:00:00

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

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🎉

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

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just need to figure out how to add that to the value tmplate, thanks guys 🙂

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:33 PM

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np

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always helps to understand what strptime and strftime does

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strptime takes a string and converts it to a datetime

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strftime takes a datetime and converts it to a string

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:34 PM

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mighty ledge always helps to understand what strptime and strftime does

Yep, this is a whole new world to me

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 12:35 PM

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if it's any consolation, this is the hardest aspect of templates

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:36 PM

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20 years ago I would have been all over this. These days, the old grey matter is a little slow

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:36 PM

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You can replace the state_attr part with the current template, or create a variable using the current template and use the variable

faint crater Apr 13, 2022, 12:36 PM

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marble jackal Does it work in <:devtools:619094051878207520> > template?

No, I couldn't get it to recognize templates at all. I just rewrote it as a couple of binary sensors and template switches calling the mqtt.publish service and it works

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:38 PM

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marble jackal You can replace the state_attr part with the current template, or create a varia...

ok sounds like I want to create a variable and use that

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:42 PM

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That would be easier to read

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So basically:

{% set date = current_template %}
{{ strptime(date, format) }}

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:47 PM

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marble jackal That would be easier to read

so like:
value_template: >-
{{ value.split(', ')[-1].strip() if ',' in value else value.strip() }}
{% set date = current_template %}
{{ strptime(sensor.blackbin, "%d %B %Y") }}

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:47 PM

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Nope

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      {% set date = value.split(', ')[-1].strip() if ',' in value else value.strip() %}
      {{ strptime(date, "%d %B %Y") }}

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Like that

echo oracle Apr 13, 2022, 12:51 PM

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marble jackal ```jinja {% set date = value.split(', ')[-1].strip() if ',' in value else ...

Awesome, thanks 🙂

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 12:53 PM

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BTW, that whole if is not needed, you can just split something by , . It will do nothing if there is no , in it besides making it a list

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      {% set date = value.split(', ')[-1].strip() %}
      {{ strptime(date, "%d %B %Y") }}

midnight saddle Apr 13, 2022, 2:25 PM

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I have several occupancy sensors that appear as binary sensors, and the states are either "on" or "off". How can I make a text field show "Occupied" or "Unoccupied" based on that?

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 3:11 PM

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midnight saddle I have several occupancy sensors that appear as binary sensors, and the states a...

change the device_class to occupancy

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you should be able to do that through the UI on the entity itself

midnight saddle Apr 13, 2022, 3:17 PM

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ah good idea

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hmm they were seemingly already set to occupancy

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 3:28 PM

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midnight saddle hmm they were seemingly already set to occupancy

Then in the UI, they will have the state Occupied or whatever the opposite is.

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in the backend it will always be on/off

midnight saddle Apr 13, 2022, 3:40 PM

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Ok so in Configuration > Devices & Services > Entities it's set to show as Occupancy, but when i set a Mushroom template card's text field to {{ states('binary_sensor.music_room_occupancy') }} it shows on/off

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 3:55 PM

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yes, because that's a template

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 3:56 PM

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midnight saddle Ok so in Configuration > Devices & Services > Entities it's set to show as Occup...

templates access the raw, untranslated states

midnight saddle Apr 13, 2022, 3:56 PM

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ah gotcha

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that makes sense, thanks for explaining

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 5:44 PM

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So not so good at templating, but trying to get better. Need som ehelp as I try t transition away from nodered. In nodered I had a function: msg.payload = msg.payload.split(" "); var index = msg.payload.indexOf('in'); // get index if value found otherwise -1 msg.payload.splice(index); msg.payload = msg.payload.join(" "); return msg;

I am basically trying to convert this into a template. Basically the task is to take a long sentence, find the word in, and splice it off from there. It seems jinja doesnt have a splice function? Right now I am basically at this:
{% set string = states('sensor.pixel_5_last_notification').split(" ") %} {% set index = string.index("in") %}

and unsure of how to chop off from index on before joining the remaining words back up.

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any help would be appreciated

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 6:30 PM

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You want the part after "in"?

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 6:38 PM

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nah the part before.

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I think I got it. Took a long time but this is the end state and seems to work:
service: tts.google data: entity_id: media_player.home_group message: >- {% set string = states('sensor.pixel_5_last_notification').split(" ") %} {% set index = string.index("in") %} {% set string = string[:index] %} {{ "Attention " + string|join(" ") }}

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 6:43 PM

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Yes, I thought after, so I was about to suggest this :)

{% set index = string.index('in') if 'in' in string else 0 %}
{{ string[index:] | join(' ') }}

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 6:45 PM

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ah that may still help make it cleaner though! Basically get notifications from my cmmmunities app when someone checks in, and same boilerplate

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 6:46 PM

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The if statement for index is to avoid errors in case there is no in in the string

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Good thinking

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and like the string[:index]|join.... wasnt sure how to join those two expressions

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 6:50 PM

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But you need to replace the 0 in that statement now, because you need the first part. However, if you replace it with -1 it will remove the last word

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 6:52 PM

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oh in should always be in there

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 6:52 PM

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You could do it like this:

{% set index = string.index('in') if 'in' in string  %}
{{ ( string[:index] if 'in' in string else string) | join(' ') }}

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 6:52 PM

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figured with 0 there it means their whole notification boilerplate changed and would need to recheck it

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oh I see

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 6:53 PM

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winter path oh in should always be in there

In all your notifications?

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 6:53 PM

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No its conditioned from a certain app

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package

marble jackal Apr 13, 2022, 6:53 PM

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Ah okay

winter path Apr 13, 2022, 6:54 PM

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but better safe than sorry

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strings come out like ['person', 'arrived', 'in', 'the', 'community', 'and', 'was', 'verified', 'and', 'entry', 'granted.', 'Please', 'note', 'that', 'guests', 'can', 'be', 'approved', 'on', 'multiple', 'accounts', 'and', 'may', 'be', 'here', 'to', 'see', 'another', 'resident.']

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so i basically aim for google to say Attention person arrived

exotic galleon Apr 13, 2022, 11:42 PM

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could someone explain what's wrong with how i'm using the "float" in this template? Everything calculates correctly in the developer tools templates, i get proper data in the sensor within HA. But I receive a warning in the log "Currently 'float' will return '0', however this template will fail to render in Home Assistant core 2022.1"

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        value_template: >-
          {{ (states('sensor.plug1_office_powerbar_current') | float) + (states('sensor.plug2_office_powerbar_current') | float) + (states('sensor.plug3_office_powerbar_current') | float) }}

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i seem to have problems with so much of my templates revolving around floats

buoyant pine Apr 13, 2022, 11:52 PM

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You need to specify a default value which will be used if the entity you're using the float filter on isn't available.

| float(0)
``` for example

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 11:55 PM

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buoyant pine You need to specify a default value which will be used if the entity you're usin...

Have you had any internet battles you’d like to talk about?

buoyant pine Apr 13, 2022, 11:56 PM

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😂

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Can't wait for the next wave

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 11:57 PM

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I hope you know, I have a million ips

buoyant pine Apr 13, 2022, 11:57 PM

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"I own all the IP addresses in existence"

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 11:58 PM

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I own them all + 1

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I’m also totally smart

buoyant pine Apr 13, 2022, 11:58 PM

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Careful though. He might be watching cz_freakouteyes

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 11:58 PM

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Like really smart

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Like so smart, Google can’t stop me

buoyant pine Apr 13, 2022, 11:58 PM

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I am become Google

mighty ledge Apr 13, 2022, 11:59 PM

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Nooo

inner mesa Apr 13, 2022, 11:59 PM

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{{ all_ipaddresses|random|torment(tediore) }}

mighty ledge Apr 14, 2022, 12:00 AM

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Lol

inner mesa Apr 14, 2022, 12:00 AM

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to, ya know, bring it back around to the topic

mighty ledge Apr 14, 2022, 12:00 AM

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I love how he chose tediore

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Talk about bad luck

buoyant pine Apr 14, 2022, 12:00 AM

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Currently 'torment' will return 'me', however this template will fail to render in Home Assistant core 2022.1

buoyant pine Apr 14, 2022, 12:02 AM

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mighty ledge I love how he chose tediore

I know, wtf man

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I do find it funny/sad that this is how they've decided to use their time

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To prove...that they can use a VPN? I guess?

exotic galleon Apr 14, 2022, 12:10 AM

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buoyant pine You need to specify a default value which will be used if the entity you're usin...

Thanks! Will give that a go.

exotic galleon Apr 14, 2022, 12:10 AM

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mighty ledge Have you had any internet battles you’d like to talk about?

Has this topic been an ongoing thing for @buoyant pine ?

buoyant pine Apr 14, 2022, 12:11 AM

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Thankfully not

exotic galleon Apr 14, 2022, 12:12 AM

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Ok .. I thought I might have hit on a touchy subject 😛

buoyant pine Apr 14, 2022, 12:12 AM

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Some troll got upset the other day and decided to take it out on me in the lamest way imaginable

exotic galleon Apr 14, 2022, 12:12 AM

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Ahh .. so it was just purely coincidental that was asked after my inquiry …

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I thought my question about floats was triggering haha

buoyant pine Apr 14, 2022, 12:13 AM

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Oh! Yeah

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Oh 😂

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Nope, unrelated

mighty ledge Apr 14, 2022, 12:13 AM

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Haha, yeah sorry! Completely unrelated

exotic galleon Apr 14, 2022, 12:13 AM

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No worries 🙂

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 6:51 AM

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trying to cut the template evaluation as much as possible in the system, I seem to have forgotten how we can prevent daily (or longer) templates to be calculated each minute... things like {{now().day}} ... what was it again please?

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 7:12 AM

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Templates with now() in it will be evaluated every minute

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As now() will update every minute

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 7:25 AM

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yes, thats why I asked.... I have quite a few of those, that don't need that. Maybe its not such a huge burden on the system, but hey, the devil is in the details

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 7:38 AM

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I am trying to create three sensor

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https://www.codepile.net/pile/dM49vnDa

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Invalid config for [sensor.template]: required key not provided @ data['sensors']. Got None. (See ?, line ?).
Invalid config for [sensor]: required key not provided @ data['platform']. Got None. (See ?, line ?).

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getting this error

rose scroll Apr 14, 2022, 7:42 AM

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Check your indentation carefully. Error in line 2.

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 7:43 AM

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a specific reason you dont use the template: format, but the 'legacy style' platform: template?

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 7:44 AM

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you mean it should be ```

platform: template
sensors:
template_grid_feed_in:

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 7:44 AM

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stuck dock you mean it should be ``` - platform: template sensors: template_grid_...

none, only I was trying to copy some old code

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 7:45 AM

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give the new style a try, its very nice

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template:
  - sensor:
      - unique_id: new_years_day_countdown
        name: New years day countdown
        state: >
        icon: >

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 7:48 AM

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stuck dock you mean it should be ``` - platform: template sensors: template_grid_...

no like this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#legacy-sensor-configuration-format

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 7:49 AM

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floral shuttle no like this: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#legacy-sensor...

https://www.codepile.net/pile/7XoPZ6kP

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 7:50 AM

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check the config options in the docs. no more value_template, new is state: no more friendly_name, new is name:. and use a unique_id, so you can edit in the UI. Its all in the docs..... https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#configuration-variables

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 7:53 AM

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and don't place this in your sensor.yaml, place it in configuration.yaml or in a separate template.yaml for which you have to create an include in configuration.yaml

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 7:54 AM

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yes, considering he has utility_meter on the same level, that should be ok here though

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 7:57 AM

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marble jackal and don't place this in your `sensor.yaml`, place it in `configuration.yaml` or ...

I am including it in configration.yaml

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 8:00 AM

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marble jackal As `now()` will update every minute

I believe it was a simple as https://next.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#trigger-based-template-sensors, and add the daystart trigger

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 8:19 AM

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yep, that was it, rate-limiting and updating on```
template:

trigger:
- platform: time_pattern
  This will update every night
  hours: 0
  minutes: 0
- platform: event
  event_type: homeassistant_start
- platform: event
  event_type: event_template_reloaded``` beautifully

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I do believe I found an issue because this template: state: > {{states('sensor.dag')}} {{states('sensor.current_day')}} {{states('sensor.maand')}} {{states('sensor.year')}} of which the second and last nested templates also use the same trigger base show 'unavailable'. see: https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/70036

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Are you sure sensor.current_day and sensor.year actually exist? Maybe they _2 has been added for some reason (old version still existed when you updated the unique_id or something)

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 8:51 AM

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How it should be?

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 9:01 AM

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marble jackal Are you sure `sensor.current_day` and `sensor.year` actually exist? Maybe they `...

yes they are there, and show up correctly as individual sensors, its really surprising

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one other problem template: ```
- unique_id: christmas_time
name: Christmas time
state: >
{% set today = now().day %}
{% set month = now().month %}
{{month == 12 and today >= 24 or month == 1 and today <= 2}}

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somehow the nesting causes havoc

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 9:25 AM

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https://www.codepile.net/pile/bKd85eKQ

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still same error

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floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 9:27 AM

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thats because you dont use the correct indenting, see #templates-archived message and sensors: should become - sensor: Be precise!

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 9:28 AM

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where i am doing it wrong?

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  - sensor:
    template_grid_feed_in:
      name: "Solar 2 Grid"
      unit_of_measurement: 'W'
      device_class: power
      state: >
        {% if states('sensor.grid_active_power') | int > 0 %}
          {{ states('sensor.grid_active_power') }}
        {% else -%}
          0
        {% endif %}
```?

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 9:33 AM

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try again:```
template:

sensor:
- unique_id: template_grid_feed_in
  name: Solar 2 Grid
  state:
  etc....

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 9:38 AM

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  - sensor:
    - unique_id: grid_feed_in
      name: Solar 2 Grid
      unit_of_measurement: 'W'
      device_class: power
      state: >
        {% if states('sensor.grid_active_power') | int > 0 %}
          {{ states('sensor.grid_active_power') }}
        {% else -%}
          0
        {% endif %}

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is this correct now?

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 9:40 AM

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looks fine

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 9:42 AM

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how to format the next two?

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https://www.codepile.net/pile/NqKnLYPK

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still

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Source: config.py:454
First occurred: 2:20:18 PM (6 occurrences)
Last logged: 2:50:01 PM

Invalid config for [sensor]: required key not provided @ data['platform']. Got None. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 147). Please check the docs at https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sensor
Invalid config for [template]: [template_grid_consumption] is an invalid option for [template]. Check: template->template_grid_consumption. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 161).
Invalid config for [template]: [unique_id:curent_solar_consumption] is an invalid option for [template]. Check: template->sensor->0->unique_id:curent_solar_consumption. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 174).
Invalid config for [template]: [unique_id:curent_solar_consumption] is an invalid option for [template]. Check: template->sensor->0->unique_id:curent_solar_consumption. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 175).

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 10:06 AM

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add a space after the :, remove the : at the end

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unique_id: curent_solar_consumption

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Invalid config for [sensor]: required key not provided @ data['platform']. Got None. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 147). Please check the docs at https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sensor this is about something else you didn't share in your codepile

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Could also be about something in sensor.yaml

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 10:11 AM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/integration-solar-inverter-huawei-2000l/132350/1608?u=yousaf465 this fixed it all

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https://community-assets.home-assistant.io/original/4X/c/1/b/c1b329dd2d8f3a176373b96843c4902044aa782c.png

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 10:11 AM

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back to legacy format

stuck dock Apr 14, 2022, 10:12 AM

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marble jackal back to legacy format

copy paste

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ponder

floral shuttle Apr 14, 2022, 10:59 AM

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you're quite accomplished in not following advise here.... I mean even the first one still has indents differently from what we suggested and what is in the docs..

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btw, the 'next two' should be indentically formatted below the first one

chilly ferry Apr 14, 2022, 3:13 PM

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What is wrong with these conditions?

- conditions:
    - condition: or
      conditions:
        - condition: state
          entity_id: binary_sensor.home_occupied
          state: 'on'
        - condition: and
          conditions:
            - condition: state
              entity_id: binary_sensor.home_occupied
              state: 'off'
            - condition: trigger
              id: door

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I basically want it to be true only if home is occupied or (home is not occupied and the door got opened), but it triggers even if the home is occupied when the door is open

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it looks exactly like this example in the documentation but with reversed or and and conditions

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/scripts/conditions/#mixed-and-and-or-conditions

inner mesa Apr 14, 2022, 3:24 PM

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that's what you've told it to do

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the first part of the "or" condition will allow the automation to proceed if you're home regardless of the state of the door

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it won't even bother to look

chilly ferry Apr 14, 2022, 3:26 PM

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oooh gotcha!

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stupid me... 😆

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thanks!

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I think I'm gonna have to find a better way of creating automations because mixing triggers and actions make them sometimes very complex (maybe not much this one, but...)

inner mesa Apr 14, 2022, 3:42 PM

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might be easier to sort out in a choose:. There are several ways to handle conditions

merry marsh Apr 14, 2022, 6:10 PM

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floral shuttle yep, that was it, rate-limiting and updating on``` template: - trigger: ...

- platform: event
  event_type: homeassistant_start

Is there a way to tiggger x minutes after start?

And where is the difference between platform event with event_type homeassistant_start and platform homeassistant with event start?

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 7:40 PM

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merry marsh ``` - platform: event event_type: homeassistant_start ``` Is there a way to ti...

trigger on start and add a delay?

merry marsh Apr 14, 2022, 7:41 PM

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marble jackal trigger on start and add a delay?

Possible with a trigger template sensor? Didn't see this there, only in automations.

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 7:42 PM

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No, not possible for template sensor

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You could add an uptime sensor, and trigger x minutes after the datetime in that sensor

merry marsh Apr 14, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Will try this. Thank you. Good idea, if not possible directly in a trigger. Or I will switch to an automation.

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To be honest, currently I'm not seeing the benefit of a trigger template sensor compared to an automation. Is there any, so that has been intrupoduced recently?

inner mesa Apr 14, 2022, 8:04 PM

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a trigger-based template sensor returns a value that can be used elsewhere, where an automation can do a bunch of things based on a trigger & condition, but doesn't have a state other than enabled/disabled

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template sensors don't do anything other than define their own state

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 8:10 PM

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this

merry marsh Apr 14, 2022, 8:28 PM

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Yes and (currently, until I perhaps get it) no. I compare it against a helper or a custom variable (instead of the template sensor), have the triggers as here and set the value via the different set_value services. Then it is the same, isn't it? But then with more options, like steps and delays before finally setting the value, log, and esp. trace.

inner mesa Apr 14, 2022, 8:30 PM

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Yes, you can emulate the functionality of a trigger-based template sensor with an automation & helper

merry marsh Apr 14, 2022, 8:33 PM

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And because of this my question above, where the benefit of the trigger based template is and so it has been introduced, if I have only limited options compared to the other way?

inner mesa Apr 14, 2022, 8:35 PM

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it's simpler and doesn't require another entity?

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you should use what makes sense for you and your situation

marble jackal Apr 14, 2022, 8:40 PM

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Advantage of a helper is that it is persistent and will survive a reboot

inland kayak Apr 14, 2022, 9:24 PM

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I have this action

            entity_id: media_player.shop
            data: 
              message: The shop is now open.

Could I template the message? The reason is based on the time of day, would like to say good morning, afternoon, or evening. Just thinking out loud, is there not a sensor for that?

mighty ledge Apr 14, 2022, 9:26 PM

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merry marsh And because of this my question above, where the benefit of the trigger based te...

Event streams are really the only reason to use a template trigger sensor.

inner mesa Apr 14, 2022, 9:31 PM

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inland kayak I have this action ``` - service: tts.cloud_say entity_id: ...

Yes, you can template anything in a data: block, and no there's no sensor for the wording that you're looking for

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it's easy enough to write a template for that based on now().hour, though

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 5:59 AM

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merry marsh And because of this my question above, where the benefit of the trigger based te...

Longtime I couldn’t find a usecase either, but next to the event capturing, rate limiting really is a true benefit.

wraith basalt Apr 15, 2022, 7:18 AM

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What helper would i use if i want it to represent a true/false template?

wary helm Apr 15, 2022, 7:19 AM

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The following template used to work, any idea what changed?
{{ state_attr('sensor.recycleapp_restafval', 'Days-until') }}
The state of the entity is here: 19 Apr

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 8:40 AM

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merry marsh ``` - platform: event event_type: homeassistant_start ``` Is there a way to ti...

check for the various HA type events https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/events/#homeassistant_start-homeassistant_started and https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/automation/trigger/#home-assistant-trigger, and, tbh, I dont understand the difference either 😉 I only noticed the homeassistant_started (not _start) event yesterday.. what I did noticed was that my trigger based templates didnt update on the platform: event, homeassistant_start event, but did on the home-assistant-trigger. might be because of 123's deduction here: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/enhance-trigger-based-template-sensors/308037 ?

marble jackal Apr 15, 2022, 10:07 AM

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wary helm The following template used to work, any idea what changed? ```{{ state_attr('se...

Check devtools > states if that attribute exists

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Maybe they changed it to lowercase

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 10:36 AM

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wraith basalt What helper would i use if i want it to represent a true/false template?

input_boolean

wraith basalt Apr 15, 2022, 1:06 PM

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mighty ledge input_boolean

Only over yaml tho, right?

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:07 PM

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wraith basalt Only over yaml tho, right?

That question doesn’t make sense.

wraith basalt Apr 15, 2022, 1:08 PM

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mighty ledge That question doesn’t make sense.

I mean you can’t configure it from the ui

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:08 PM

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You can’t configure template sensors from the ui

wraith basalt Apr 15, 2022, 1:10 PM

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Yes that’s what I meant

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Thank you

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:10 PM

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Np

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@merry marsh

platform: homeassistant
event: start

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:17 PM

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yeah,but why is that different form the others, specifically homeassistant_started?

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they're all core events, why cant we use those platform: events ?

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:17 PM

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One is fired from the event bus the other is probably handles before

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They are 2 different integrations

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:18 PM

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tbh, I feel some sort of short explanation should be provided in the docs to explain the difference, and when to use which

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:18 PM

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Just use home assistant start

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:19 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/what-is-difference-between-the-various-ha-start-events/411926/3 is what I openend

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:19 PM

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The other is an event

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Use the event when you want 1 trigger and to parse through separate events

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:19 PM

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yes, and events are valid triggers, so should also be valid for trigger based templates ?

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:20 PM

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Yes

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:20 PM

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but they arent....

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:20 PM

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Did you subscribe to the event?

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Does it occur

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:20 PM

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I briefly saw Arganto mention that (its gone now), and it is what I described in my issue

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not sure I understand what you ask. when I used the platform: event on homeassistant_start, the trigger based sensor didnt work, using the platform: homeassistant, event: start, it works fine

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I now see that homeassistant_start is too early in the process, and maybe should use homeassistant_started

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:23 PM

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And you’re 100% sure this event is real?

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:24 PM

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I would hope so ;-=) my system did startup ...?

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:24 PM

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Yes but that doesn’t mean that HA creates that event

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:25 PM

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yes, and thats why I hope some explanation will be offered on the whens and whys

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its not very silly to expect an event homeassistant_started to be created on homeassistant start is it? If that cant be used, it should really be indicated as such, and what we Can use it for

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:27 PM

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FYI this is covered in the docs

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You just didn’t look for it

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/events/#homeassistant_start-homeassistant_started

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:28 PM

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exactly, as I quoted in my Community post, and yet we can not use it for the trigger based template

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:29 PM

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It literally says to use the built in platform not the events

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floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:29 PM

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yes, it says we recommend

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thats not the same as you can not use these events, nor does it explain why.

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:30 PM

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You probably don’t need to know why because it’s not meant for you to use

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:30 PM

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ah but there you go, I always want to know why....

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:31 PM

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Well how about just use what everyone tells you to use

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:31 PM

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i dont like to be told I dont need to know 😉

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:31 PM

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Read the code then

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:31 PM

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yes, I started to do that indeed, but couldnt find the definitive answer yet

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:31 PM

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It probably happens before templates are loaded therefor templates dont trigger off it

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Because there probably is no definitive answer. The loading process is complicated. Homeassistant event triggers are ensured to work

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So use them

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 1:32 PM

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yes, That was my conclusion too as reason for why nested templates in the trigger based templates remain unavailable. And ofc I did change to the platform: homeassistant after that. np. Its just that I dont grasp why the events are there in the first place

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 1:32 PM

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Otherwise read the code

merry marsh Apr 15, 2022, 1:51 PM

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floral shuttle I briefly saw Arganto mention that (its gone now), and it is what I described in...

I moved it over to #automations-archived to be not that o.t. here. But I'm with you. Even if it is recommended in the docs (what I read before) to use the other, it is not written, that the others don't work. A recommendation is for me the opposite from a must. Comparable to sufficient vs. necessary.

mighty ledge Apr 15, 2022, 2:16 PM

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merry marsh I moved it over to <#672220450977349653> to be not that o.t. here. But I'm with ...

The others do work, but it's meant for integrations and the backend. The automation engine is not running when the event is fired, same with templates.

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I just confirmed. so, use the other.

quaint flame Apr 15, 2022, 3:32 PM

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need some help with a template sensor. i'd like to make one show the difference between a static number, and a different sensor. so say {{ 100 vs (current sensor) = (+ or - value) }} . so 100 vs (current sensor at 50) = -50. or the opposite at 100 vs (current sensor at 150) = +50. hope this makes some sense lol. TIA

rose scroll Apr 15, 2022, 3:53 PM

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Umm why not just do {{ states('sensor.xxx') | int(0) - 100 }}?

quaint flame Apr 15, 2022, 3:54 PM

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cuase i was way over thinking it and trying to do it oposite lol

rose scroll Apr 15, 2022, 3:54 PM

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Is it critical to have the + if the difference is positive?

quaint flame Apr 15, 2022, 3:54 PM

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no

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what does the int(0) define?

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how do you link text in the black box to show correct format

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rose scroll Apr 15, 2022, 3:55 PM

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Ensure that the value from the sensor is cast to an int. (0) is the default if the sensor's state can't be cast to int, eg. If sensor is unavailable.

inner mesa Apr 15, 2022, 3:55 PM

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or single backticks

quaint flame Apr 15, 2022, 3:56 PM

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  - sensor:
      - name: "titanoinvestment"
        state: >
          {{
              ( states('sensor.titano') | int(0) - 14000 )
              }}
        unit_of_measurement: "$"

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oh nice

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does that look ok in my template.yaml

rose scroll Apr 15, 2022, 3:57 PM

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Throw the {{...}} into Dev Tools > Template and see if any errors pop up. But looks legit from here.

quaint flame Apr 15, 2022, 3:58 PM

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tyvm

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can i enter a negative minimium for input numbers?

fossil venture Apr 15, 2022, 4:13 PM

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Yes

arctic sorrel Apr 15, 2022, 4:49 PM

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Check devtools -> States for the list of attributes

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You're probably looking for something like

{{ state_attr('sensor.smartdry','Humidity') }}

inner mesa Apr 15, 2022, 4:54 PM

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I'm surprised that didn't catch fire 😉

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The states() part

fringe pewter Apr 15, 2022, 7:45 PM

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If this doesn't belong here, please advise.

Input Number Slider Question: I have a slider with a min/max/step of 0/70/1. I want the slider to show value in percent, where 0=0% and 70=100%, is this possible? if so, how?

barren jungle Apr 15, 2022, 9:12 PM

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Hmmm...
Out of all trigger based entities binary_sensor is the only one that retains it's state between reloads and restarts.
sensor|number|select defaults to unknown state and requires special handling.
Interesting, hope one day all will be able to retain state.

floral shuttle Apr 15, 2022, 9:26 PM

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soon.... the PR;s for that are almost ready....

wet lodge Apr 16, 2022, 1:22 AM

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Hey folks. My old automation for forwarding persistent notifications to my phone hasn’t worked properly in a number of months. I can see that they are all listed in states.persistent_notification, but I need help fishing the details out. Does anyone have a template (or combination of templates) for grabbing the title and message for the most recent persistent notification?

sacred sparrow Apr 16, 2022, 1:27 AM

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what would be the wait template for my sensor so it doesn't move on to the next step of the automation until nothing on the cover has been triggered for 5 seconds? {{ is_state('cover.living_room_blinds_', '.........

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the lag in web api for my blinds can be up to 10 seconds and sometimes the values arent sent to HA before the wait template has had a chance to see the new values

inner mesa Apr 16, 2022, 2:41 AM

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You can't use a wait_template for that

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You would want wait_for_trigger with a state trigger with no to or from and a for:

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Assuming that it is actually changing state and you want it to settle on a value

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The 'nothing on the cover has been triggered for 5 seconds' is a little confusing

rose scroll Apr 16, 2022, 4:41 AM

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wet lodge Hey folks. My old automation for forwarding persistent notifications to my phone...

Can't you adda tag to each notification and track them using the tag?

thorny snow Apr 16, 2022, 7:56 AM

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im trying to count how many lights are on but somehow i can't get it to work
im using this code and did put ut in my sensor.yaml file

    count_lights_on:
    friendly_name: "# Lights on"
    unit_of_measurement: 'on'
    value_template: "{{ states.light | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | count }}". ```

fossil venture Apr 16, 2022, 8:21 AM

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  - platform: template
    sensors: 
      count_lights_on:
        friendly_name: "# Lights on"
        unit_of_measurement: 'on'
        value_template: "{{ states.light | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | count }}"

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/#legacy-sensor-configuration-format

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Or using the new template integration:```
template:

sensor:
- name: "# Lights on"
  unit_of_measurement: 'on'
  state: "{{ states.light | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | count }}"

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(That goes in your configuration.yaml file, not sensors.yaml)

thorny snow Apr 16, 2022, 8:25 AM

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fossil venture Or using the new template integration:``` template: - sensor: - name: "#...

am trying it right now

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such a hero

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it works!

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i see it also counts groups

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can i also only count the lights

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i created a light group in helpers

fossil venture Apr 16, 2022, 8:50 AM

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I don't think so. The light group creates a light entity. There's no way to distinguish it from other lights. I could be wrong. Petro or Fez might know a way.

marble jackal Apr 16, 2022, 10:18 AM

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To count lights which are on, and exclude light groups, note that groups have an attribute entity_id You can exclude the lights who have this attribute defined.
This attribute entity_id contains the members of the group

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template:
  - sensor:
      - name: "# Lights on"
        unit_of_measurement: 'on'
        state: "{{ states.light | rejectattr('attributes.entity_id', 'defined') | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | count }}"

or, if you use hue_groups or deconz_groups and want to exclude them as well

template:
  - sensor:
      - name: "# Lights on"
        unit_of_measurement: 'on'
        state: "{{ states.light | rejectattr('attributes.entity_id', 'defined') | rejectattr('attributes.is_deconz_group') | rejectattr('attributes.is_hue_group') | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | count }}"

thorny snow Apr 16, 2022, 10:24 AM

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marble jackal ```yaml template: - sensor: - name: "# Lights on" unit_of_measur...

There is a missing pipe (|) between selectattr and rejectattr filter

thorny snow Apr 16, 2022, 10:24 AM

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thorny snow There is a missing pipe (`|`) between `selectattr` and `rejectattr` filter

Already fixed, nvm

wet lodge Apr 16, 2022, 12:48 PM

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rose scroll Can't you adda tag to each notification and track them using the tag?

I’m talking about the system generated notifications, like the discovery of a new device or an integration that needs to be reconfigured, etc.

thorny snow Apr 16, 2022, 2:21 PM

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marble jackal ```yaml template: - sensor: - name: "# Lights on" unit_of_measur...

i tried your code and it works perfectly! Thank you!😄

modern sluice Apr 16, 2022, 3:13 PM

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Having trouble understanding the regular expressions to get contains in a template. The state of a media player allows me to trigger based on song, artist, or album. The problem with this is it must be exact and so many artists/songs/albums have collabs in their names it's difficult to build effective triggers. Can somebody help me with a template that triggers when a song CONTAINS media_artist: Nicki Minaj
so it will still fire even if media_artist: Nicki Minaj feat. Drake, Lil Wayne & Chris Brown please?

buoyant pine Apr 16, 2022, 3:19 PM

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"{{ 'Nicki Minaj' in state_attr('media_player.whatever', 'media_artist') }}"

mighty ledge Apr 16, 2022, 4:51 PM

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buoyant pine ``` "{{ 'Nicki Minaj' in state_attr('media_player.whatever', 'media_artist') }}"...

You would

buoyant pine Apr 16, 2022, 4:51 PM

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Wut?

mighty ledge Apr 16, 2022, 4:59 PM

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buoyant pine Wut?

Minaj

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No I haven’t switched

modern sluice Apr 16, 2022, 6:47 PM

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buoyant pine ``` "{{ 'Nicki Minaj' in state_attr('media_player.whatever', 'media_artist') }}"...

This worked perfectly and now I've buried a ridiculous lighting easter egg deep within my HA. I was able to figure out the 'not' template to change everything back at song end

torpid reef Apr 16, 2022, 10:10 PM

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Hello, I'm new to templates and just wanted to know how I would get this value out of this sensor: https://imgur.com/Lab2IxN

inner mesa Apr 16, 2022, 10:15 PM

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it's hard to tell if your big yellow outline has obscured something

torpid reef Apr 16, 2022, 10:17 PM

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I don't think it has but here is the screenshot without: https://imgur.com/3F0LfCN

inner mesa Apr 16, 2022, 10:17 PM

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but {{ state_attr('sensor.xxx', 'entries')[0].content[0].value }}

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ok, well, try that in devtools -> Templates

torpid reef Apr 16, 2022, 10:23 PM

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That worked perfectly thank you very much for your help!

lyric crown Apr 16, 2022, 10:41 PM

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What is the best way to dynamically create entities? Basically, I want to consume this api (https://api.ebongo.org/prediction?stopid=0245) and create an sensor.prediction_* for each prediction in predictions.

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I have a pretty crude rest sensor that I'm using right now that just uses a single entity but I'd like to actually create different entities for each prediction. I also want to expand this to get the location of each vehicle from another endpoint.

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hmm, might be able to do it with pyscript and hass.states.set(..., ..., ...)

green lynx Apr 17, 2022, 3:22 AM

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Hello, i used a vibration sensor to try to "smartify" my dryer, problem is, i cannot figure out how to make an accurate template, this is what it looks like when it's on vs when off https://prnt.sc/tyqnNcdtKRJb

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it fluctuates so much when working i cannot use it to create an automation, any idea how can i solve it?

lyric crown Apr 17, 2022, 3:27 AM

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did it turn on ~8:48?

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just check if it's not Apaganda

green lynx Apr 17, 2022, 3:32 AM

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yeah it turn on at 8:48ish

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yeah but one sec is off and next sec on

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https://prnt.sc/v3SA0fNYlm0X a close up of the actual sensor not the helper

lyric crown Apr 17, 2022, 5:06 AM

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green lynx https://prnt.sc/v3SA0fNYlm0X a close up of the actual sensor not the helper

just check when it's been off for >2 min

bright quarry Apr 17, 2022, 8:36 AM

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trying to make a script that changes defined hue light targets to a random color. dunno where to put random. could've swore it used to work as effect/light effect, but it doesn't.

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 9:05 AM

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Use service: light.turn_on with rgb_color: "{{ [ range(0,256) | random, range(0,256) | random, range(0,256) | random] }}"

late island Apr 17, 2022, 10:10 AM

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Heyho. So I am trying to combine my automations into one right now. But its not really working how I thought it would work. The trigger is a template and the entity_id that triggered the automation should be used in the action. https://pastebin.com/d2jcLfry

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 10:40 AM

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As you use a template trigger, there is no trigger.entity_id variable

late island Apr 17, 2022, 10:41 AM

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So is there a way to go about that?

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 10:42 AM

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Yes, add a trigger id and use the entity is there

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Or add any other trigger variable as introduced in 2022.4

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      - platform: template
        id: climate.comet_dect_3_wohnzimmer
        value_template: >-
          {{ state_attr('climate.comet_dect_3_wohnzimmer','current_temperature') | int(default=0) > 21 }}

Then use trigger.id instead of trigger.entity_id

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Or, with these templates you can just use numeric_state triggers and then you can use trigger.entity_id

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No template trigger needed

late island Apr 17, 2022, 10:57 AM

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So just for my understanding for the next time I am doing something like that. First variant is just sending an id with it so it what triggered it. Second variant would be something like this?

#

    - platform: numeric_state
      entity_id: climate.comet_dect_3_wohnzimmer
      attribute: current_temperature
      above: 21```

lone lion Apr 17, 2022, 11:19 AM

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trying to use the chat integration to let people know if they are free, dnd or busy based on the RGB Lites example:

        rgb_color:
          - "{% if color == 'red' %}255{% else %}0{% endif %}"
          - "{% if color == 'green' %}255{% else %}0{% endif %}"
          - "{% if color == 'blue' %}255{% else %}0{% endif %}" ```
changed it to

  data:
    option: 
      - "{% if roomstate == 'dnd' %}'DND'{% endif %}"
      - "{% if roomstate == 'vrij' %}'Vrij'{% endif %}"
      - "{% if roomstate == 'bezet' %}'Bezet'{% endif %}"

But that fails

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 11:19 AM

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late island So just for my understanding for the next time I am doing something like that. F...

Correct

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 11:21 AM

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lone lion trying to use the chat integration to let people know if they are free, dnd or b...

.share the whole thing

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lone lion Apr 17, 2022, 11:21 AM

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https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/xajepizulo.properties

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error is: Received invalid slot info for kamer: value should be a string for dictionary value @ data['option']

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 11:29 AM

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You are providing a list for option

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This should be only one value

lone lion Apr 17, 2022, 11:29 AM

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one of those three indeed

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 11:30 AM

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That's not how that works

lone lion Apr 17, 2022, 11:31 AM

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When i set it to :
option: "{{roomstate}}" , it works, but i have to type the correct state

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 11:33 AM

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      option: >
        {% if roomstate == 'dnd' %}
          DND
        {% elif roomstate == 'vrij' %}
          Vrij
        {% else %}
          Bezet
        {% endif %}

lone lion Apr 17, 2022, 11:33 AM

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let me try that!

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i was searching for that indeed, but couldnt find much info in the google chat bot and passing the slots except the light example

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worked ! ty

wet lodge Apr 17, 2022, 11:51 AM

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wet lodge Hey folks. My old automation for forwarding persistent notifications to my phone...

If it helps, here is an example of the output:


[<template TemplateState(<state persistent_notification.config_entry_reconfigure=notifying; message=At least one of your integrations requires reconfiguration to continue functioning. [Check it out](/config/integrations)., title=Integration requires reconfiguration, friendly_name=Integration requires reconfiguration @ 2022-04-13T21:11:02.077940-03:00>)>]

wet lodge Apr 17, 2022, 4:49 PM

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Never mind. I managed to piece it together myself. I guess I’m starting to figure this stuff out after all.

amber hull Apr 17, 2022, 6:39 PM

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I use a markdown card that uses ```
| {{ states.sensor.updater_core.attributes.current_version }}

inner mesa Apr 17, 2022, 6:44 PM

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two were disabled by default

amber hull Apr 17, 2022, 6:47 PM

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Not sure how I can pull just the version number into my markdown card.

inner mesa Apr 17, 2022, 6:48 PM

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the state?

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easy

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#states

amber hull Apr 17, 2022, 6:49 PM

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Tried | HassOS | {{ state.sensor.home_assistant_operating_system_version }} and this does not work

inner mesa Apr 17, 2022, 6:49 PM

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it's not what the docs say

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{{ states('sensor.home_assistant_operating_system_version') }}

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suggest reading that link

marble jackal Apr 17, 2022, 6:55 PM

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amber hull Tried | **HassOS** | {{ state.sensor.home_assistant_operating_system_version }} ...

You should add .state if you want to use this (which is advised against)

amber hull Apr 17, 2022, 6:57 PM

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Rob's answer worked. I had tried using states.sensor.home_assistant_operating_system_version and it was not working.

inner mesa Apr 17, 2022, 6:58 PM

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right, because it's not correct. you're missing .state, as TheFes mentioned

amber hull Apr 17, 2022, 6:58 PM

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At the end?

inner mesa Apr 17, 2022, 6:58 PM

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the link explains

amber hull Apr 17, 2022, 6:59 PM

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Got it. Thanks.

bright quarry Apr 17, 2022, 9:19 PM

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marble jackal Use `service: light.turn_on` with `rgb_color: "{{ [ range(0,256) | random, range...

data:
  rgb_color: {{ [ range(0,256) | random, range(0,256) | random, ]range(0,256) | random]
    }}
target:
  entity_id:
    - light.go_mini_lamp
    - light.hue_go_1
    - light.hue_go_2
    - light.lightstrip

Message malformed: template value should be a string for dictionary value @ data['sequence'][0]['data']

lyric crown Apr 17, 2022, 9:19 PM

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quote it

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rgb_color: "{{ ... }}"

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also looks like an extra ] maybe

bright quarry Apr 17, 2022, 9:23 PM

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lyric crown quote it

still not working

lyric crown Apr 17, 2022, 9:23 PM

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same error?

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try rgb_color: "{{ [ range(0,256) | random, range(0,256) | random, range(0,256) | random ] }}"

bright quarry Apr 17, 2022, 9:27 PM

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that works, ty. 🙂

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 6:36 AM

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lyric crown rgb_color: "{{ ... }}"

Ah, there did that closing square bracket go while copy pasting on mobile 😎😅

pastel moon Apr 18, 2022, 10:54 AM

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Hi, referred here from #automations-archived . I have an issue with calling lights with a list of strings; https://paste.debian.net/hidden/830ca0a1/ I can't seem to get the syntax right. Can someone please help?

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 10:59 AM

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You'll need a loop to add light. to each entity in your variable, which seems a bit much for this

pastel moon Apr 18, 2022, 11:00 AM

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That could work. But in the description for entity_id, it says a string, or a list of strings as input?

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/light/

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and yes, this is a proof of concept script to learn this, so may seem a bit too much like this

slate forum Apr 18, 2022, 11:12 AM

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Howdy ya'll!
I got stuck with this one 😦

{% if is_state('sensor.washer', 'off') %}
Standby
{% else %}
Time Remaining: {{% state_attr('sensor.washer', 'remain_time') %}}
{% endif %}

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basically trying to have the dishwasher say "Standby" if its off, or show Time Remaining when its on

pastel moon Apr 18, 2022, 12:42 PM

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anyone know how to do this? #templates-archived message Why is the docs talking of "list of strings" as value for 'entity_id' if some kind of loop is still needed?

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 12:44 PM

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slate forum Howdy ya'll! I got stuck with this one 😦 {% if is_state('sensor.washer', 'off...

Remove the % in the opening and closing of the template for time remaining

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 1:07 PM

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pastel moon anyone know how to do this? https://discord.com/channels/330944238910963714/6722...

variables:
  light: ['light.rgb', 'light.roof']

This would make your variable a list of strings, and would be the same as:

variables:
  light: 
    - light.rgb
    - light.roof

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To make a list of light entities out of your current variable, you would need something like

{% set ns = namespace(lights = []) %}
{% for item in light %}
  {% set ns.lights = ns.lights + [ 'light.' ~ item ] %}
{% endfor %}
{{ ns.lights }}

pastel moon Apr 18, 2022, 1:15 PM

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Awesome! Than you, will try this 🙂

pastel moon Apr 18, 2022, 2:14 PM

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WoW. Finally got it working as I need. Thanks much @marble jackal !

round pecan Apr 18, 2022, 2:42 PM

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I'm using {{ states("binary_sensor.window_contact") }} to display on my dashboard the state of the window sensor, but if shows on/off. Is there any method/function to use to display open/closed as it does if I use a entity or button card ? So I don't need to write if else statemant, or is that the only way?

inner mesa Apr 18, 2022, 2:44 PM

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There's no way to access the translated values via a template

rigid chasm Apr 18, 2022, 3:21 PM

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hi guys. i am trying figure out how to count lights sensors on within groups.

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i got this sensor who counts all light

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sensor:

platform: template
sensors:
count_lights:
friendly_name: "Count Of Lights"
value_template: >-
{{ states.light | list | count }}

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but how do i create sensor that will count lights on

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 3:26 PM

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{{ states.light | selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | count }}

rigid chasm Apr 18, 2022, 3:33 PM

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ok thanks that works but if i have a light.group let's say kitchen how do i point to that?

inner mesa Apr 18, 2022, 3:36 PM

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{{ expand(state_attr('light.kitchen', 'entity_id'))|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list|count }}

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or maybe you can now just directly expand the light group? I don't have any and don't know

rigid chasm Apr 18, 2022, 3:41 PM

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thanks alot guys i got this now

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 4:34 PM

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You can expand light groups directly

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{{ expand('light.kitchen')|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on')|list|count }}

quaint flame Apr 18, 2022, 5:26 PM

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is there a way to track the history of a template sensor? i'd like to see what the value was say 24hrs ago. heres my sensor: ```

sensor:
- name: "thor"
  state: >
  {{
  ( states('input_number.thor_daily_increase') | float | round(2)) *
  ( states('sensor.cryptoinfo_price_thor_usd') | float | round(2))
  }}
  attributes:
  number: >
  {{ ( states('input_number.thor_daily_increase') | float | round (2)) }}
  unit_of_measurement: "$"

hallow pebble Apr 18, 2022, 5:40 PM

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I have a automation that triggers on all available motion and door/window sensors when I am not at home and send me a notification. For various reasons I am not interested in the entities name or friendly name that triggered the automation, but in the area the entity id is related to. However I am struggling to find the correct template to find the area name assigned. So far I tried {{ area_name ('trigger.entity_id') }} and also {{ area_name ('trigger.to_state.name') }} but both return 'None'. It seems that the copied trigger entity does not belong to the area of the originating entity.

mighty ledge Apr 18, 2022, 5:42 PM

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hallow pebble I have a automation that triggers on all available motion and door/window sensor...

Remove the single quotes around trigger.entity_id

hallow pebble Apr 18, 2022, 5:46 PM

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mighty ledge Remove the single quotes around trigger.entity_id

🙈 Always these little things . Thanks. I'll give it a try :)

mighty ledge Apr 18, 2022, 5:47 PM

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Templates are designed to frustrate you

quaint flame Apr 18, 2022, 5:53 PM

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quaint flame is there a way to track the history of a template sensor? i'd like to see what ...

@mighty ledge is there a way to do this? or do i need to use a different sensor

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 6:07 PM

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The state of 24h ago should be stored in your database

quaint flame Apr 18, 2022, 6:08 PM

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what database

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 6:09 PM

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The one of Home Assistant, unless you excluded this sensor from the recorder

quaint flame Apr 18, 2022, 6:09 PM

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i have not. could i set that as a attribute? how would i enter that?

marble jackal Apr 18, 2022, 6:13 PM

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Templates only work with the actual data at the current moment, if you want to retrieve something out of your database, you'll need a SQL sensor https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sql/

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I can't help you with the code to get it out though, I don't know much SQL

quaint flame Apr 18, 2022, 6:13 PM

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tyvm its a start

teal peak Apr 18, 2022, 9:21 PM

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Hi everyone, I need some help with a template to count the number of lights that are on in my house. I currently have this one :
{{ states.light|selectattr('state', 'eq', 'on') | list | length }}

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It was okay until I added lights group through the UI, because they are created in the light domain
I think the only difference between a proper light and a light group is that the latter has an entity_id attribute
How could I exclude these?

inner mesa Apr 18, 2022, 10:37 PM

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I thought a solution was already provided for that

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#templates-archived message

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For someone else, apparently

low blaze Apr 19, 2022, 4:04 AM

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Is it possible to create a template switch? I'd like to make a switch that turns on/off multiple entities as one. Do I need to make it manually or is there a format that will just take the entity names and be done?

inner mesa Apr 19, 2022, 4:11 AM

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yes, https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/switch.template/ 🤷

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but it sounds like you actually want a group

low blaze Apr 19, 2022, 5:24 AM

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what are the advantages?

inner mesa Apr 19, 2022, 5:26 AM

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It groups entities together to control them together, which sounds like what you asked for

low blaze Apr 19, 2022, 5:27 AM

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yes it looks like a better option

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template switches seem to be powerful, but yes a group makes more sense

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when I put ```
switch:

platform: group
name: "T1 All Clip Fans"
entities:
- switch.t1_clip_fans
- switch.t1_clipfan_upper```

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into groups.yaml

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I get: Invalid config for [group]: value should be a string for dictionary value @ data['group']['switch']['entities']. Got None. (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 8).

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groups.yaml is in config.yaml as a group - is this why ?

inner mesa Apr 19, 2022, 5:35 AM

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that doesn't belong in groups.yaml

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it's a switch

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it's probably easier for you to just create it in the UI

low blaze Apr 19, 2022, 5:38 AM

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is it a helper choice?

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I see it in helpers

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thx

marble jackal Apr 19, 2022, 5:50 AM

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low blaze groups.yaml is in config.yaml as a group - is this why ?

groups.yaml contains the YAML configuration of the group integration. What you had belongs to the switch integration.
The first line shows that

low blaze Apr 19, 2022, 5:50 AM

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ok I got it from the wiki directly on the groups integration

soft flare Apr 19, 2022, 9:26 AM

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So since the new release (2022.4) it is possible to 'hide' entities. Does anyone know if it is possible to filter entities when they are hidden?

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I actually don't think this is possible because 'Hidden' (or 'Disabled' for that matter) is not an attribute of the entity.

formal ember Apr 19, 2022, 2:26 PM

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Hey all. Have created two sensors to convert MB to GB, but they end up showing as KB....

- sensor:
    - name: "NBN Download GB"
      unit_of_measurement: "GB"
      state: >-
        {{ (states('sensor.nbn_downloaded') | filesizeformat(GB)) }}
- sensor:
    - name: "NBN Upload GB"
      unit_of_measurement: "GB"
      state: >-
        {{ (states('sensor.nbn_uploaded') | filesizeformat(GB)) }}

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Any ideas why it would do that?

inner mesa Apr 19, 2022, 2:33 PM

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Probably needs to be a string?

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GB is a variable name

rose scroll Apr 19, 2022, 2:36 PM

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If I'm understanding the Jinja docs for the filesizeformat filter, you can't force it to report the filesize in a certain order of magnitude. It will report it to the order of magnitude that makes the most sense from a human readability POV.

inner mesa Apr 19, 2022, 2:36 PM

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Actually, I don't see that it takes that argument at all

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Right

rose scroll Apr 19, 2022, 2:37 PM

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Yup. Only takes the filesize value and whether you want the true binary size.

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If you specifically want it in GB, just math it?

formal ember Apr 19, 2022, 2:39 PM

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rose scroll If you specifically want it in GB, just math it?

Yeah I guess I’ll have to!

teal peak Apr 19, 2022, 3:25 PM

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inner mesa I thought a solution was already provided for that

Thanks a lot! Alas it doesn’t work apparently, I get 0 all the time.
Edit: my bad… mixed attributes.entity_id with only entity_id

ember coyote Apr 19, 2022, 3:28 PM

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hey guys.
I was thinking of starting with light groups, but realized thats gonna mess up this template:
'{{ states.light|selectattr("state", "equalto", "on")|list|length }}'<

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does anyone have an idea on how to subtract the number of turned on light groups to get the right number of turned on lights? 😄

inner mesa Apr 19, 2022, 3:33 PM

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Immediately above your post

marble jackal Apr 19, 2022, 3:36 PM

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Seems to be quite popular to count the number of lights which are on

inner mesa Apr 19, 2022, 3:38 PM

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marble jackal To count lights which are on, and exclude light groups, note that groups have an...

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Pinned

ember coyote Apr 19, 2022, 5:38 PM

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Awesome. Thanks @inner mesa

teal peak Apr 19, 2022, 6:21 PM

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marble jackal Seems to be quite popular to count the number of lights which are on

Granted that’s not very useful, but when I only put the icon my wife says it’s not very visible, and I figured the number of lights would be the most interesting information next to the icon.

silent barnBOT Apr 19, 2022, 9:54 PM

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@young jacinth posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/mayeqomafu

This will update every night