ivory delta Sep 14, 2021, 9:47 PM

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They're used by the UI. 🤷‍♂️

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They're stored with the code for the integration because they're specific to the integration.

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You're welcome to search for evidence of a binary sensor showing anything other than 'on' or 'off' in the Dev Tools. It doesn't change at all, regardless of your language settings.

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You don't have to scroll far back to see a Dutch user's template: #templates-archived message

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Platform translation strings are stored as JSON in the home-assistant repository. These files must be located adjacent to the component/platform they belong to.
https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/internationalization/core/

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🤷‍♂️

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Some components and platforms will have strings that need to be localized specifically for that platform. These strings are managed in the core home-assistant repository. The Home Assistant backend will serve strings to the clients based on the loaded components in the running instance.
https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/internationalization

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I don't know what you know that I don't. Please share.

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 12:28 AM

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it is true unfortunately

crisp storm Sep 15, 2021, 12:29 AM

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:/

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 12:31 AM

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just copy the state dict into your template from the file you linked and use the device_class to pull the translation

clever fable Sep 15, 2021, 2:15 AM

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I'm having trouble with this Template Sensor. It seems no matter what I have tried to fix it I cant get it to pass the check.

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  sensors:
    living_room_occupied:
      value_template: >-
        {{ is_state('binary_sensor.front_door_contact', 'on')
           or is_state('binary_sensor.living_room_motion_occupancy_north', 'on')
           or is_state('binary_sensor.living_room_motion_occupancy_south', 'on')
           or states('sensor.living_room_grideye_occupancy_count')|float > 0 }}```

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 2:16 AM

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you're not following the syntax from the docs

clever fable Sep 15, 2021, 2:17 AM

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I'm not?

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I looked at the docs

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and I have another Template sensor that passes

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I'll look again

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 2:17 AM

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so that's the legacy version

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where did you put that?

clever fable Sep 15, 2021, 2:26 AM

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Wow I wasn't even close

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I guess I need to create a template: section and start over

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This also explains alot

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 2:29 AM

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I don't think you were too far away, you're just using the legacy version

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so where did you put that?

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there's nothing wrong with the legacy definition - all of mine are that way

clever fable Sep 15, 2021, 2:31 AM

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I had it in binary_sensors:

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I have now moved it to template:

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Is that right?

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This is what I have now... - binary_sensor: - name: living_room_occupied value_template: >- {{ is_state('binary_sensor.front_door_contact', 'on') or is_state('binary_sensor.living_room_motion_occupancy_north', 'on') or is_state('binary_sensor.living_room_motion_occupancy_south', 'on') or states('sensor.living_room_grideye_occupancy_count')|float > 0 }}

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 2:33 AM

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it should have been under binary_sensor:, not binary_sensors:

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no, not quite

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state: >-

clever fable Sep 15, 2021, 2:33 AM

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I typed it wrong

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that is where I had it

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so no longer value_template

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 2:34 AM

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as in the docs

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you should really focus on the error, rather than just arbitrarily changing it

clever fable Sep 15, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Well I cant get the syntax to pass right now so I'm at least trying to do that first

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 2:35 AM

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if it doesn't pass, then there's an error. focus on that

clever fable Sep 15, 2021, 2:35 AM

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Yeah thats what I'm doing

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now

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looks like its passing and working now thanks

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 5:24 AM

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Can anyone explain why this template always shows 9 sep instead of the actual data of today (15 sep).

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{{ as_timestamp(states('sensor.date')) | timestamp_custom('%-m %b %Y') }}

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The sensor.date works fine btw.

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 5:31 AM

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It’s the 9th month

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Did you want %d?

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Ok that's embarrassing. Thx Rob 🙂

red zenith Sep 15, 2021, 8:45 AM

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Hi, I am look for some help.
I am trying to compare the current and previous value of a sensor is there a easy we of doing this?
Can I do something like sensor.name-of-sensor. previous.value

What I am trying to achieve is to find out if the sensor has gone up, it which case I would like to add the difference to a another sensor or if it has gone down add the value to an another sensor.

rugged laurel Sep 15, 2021, 8:59 AM

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{{ trigger.from_state.state }} <-- previous
{{ trigger.to_state.state }} <-- new

red zenith Sep 15, 2021, 9:09 AM

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Thanks @rugged laurel I am struggling to understand how to use them.
If I have a sensor called** sensor.kwh** and I want to get the difference between the current and previous values how do I related the** trigger.from_state.state** and** trigger.to_state.state staments**.

rugged laurel Sep 15, 2021, 9:12 AM

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with #automations-archived

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Maybe the trigger based template sensors can do that as well 🤷‍♂️

red zenith Sep 15, 2021, 9:14 AM

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I was thinking of using a custom sensor set up in the my configuration.yaml (sorry if I am doing this the wrong way I as still getting head around it)

silent barnBOT Sep 15, 2021, 10:43 AM

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@arctic jay posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/imasisuhow

arctic jay Sep 15, 2021, 10:44 AM

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Anyone can help me?

median mason Sep 15, 2021, 11:19 AM

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I have 3 sensor entities (temp, humidity, pressure) from a aqara temperature and humidity sensor. i tried following code, but i got error "Invalid config for [sensor.template]: [attributes] is an invalid option for [sensor.template]. Check: sensor.template->sensors->balkon_climate->attributes. (See ?, line ?)."

- platform: template
  sensors:
    balkon_climate:
      friendly_name: "Balkon Climate"
      device_class: temperature
      unit_of_measurement: '°C'
      value_template: "{{ states('sensor.temperature_balkon') }}"
      attributes:
        temperature: "{{ states('sensor.temperature_balkon') }}"
        humidity: "{{ states('sensor.humidity_balkon') }}"
        pressure: "{{ states('sensor.pressure_balkon') }}"

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 11:36 AM

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Looks like you're using a weird mix of old and new template sensor styles. Use the new style: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/template/

arctic jay Sep 15, 2021, 11:40 AM

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Mr. @ivory delta are you talking to me? or to arifroni?

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 11:49 AM

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arctic jay Anyone can help me?

use the rest integration, not the rest sensor.

silent barnBOT Sep 15, 2021, 11:49 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/rest/

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 11:49 AM

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median mason I have 3 sensor entities (temp, humidity, pressure) from a aqara temperature and...

attributes should be attribute_templates]

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also, as mono suggested, you should move to the new implementation of template sensors

arctic jay Sep 15, 2021, 12:40 PM

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mighty ledge use the rest integration, not the rest sensor.

i will try it, thanks

median mason Sep 15, 2021, 1:07 PM

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mighty ledge attributes should be attribute_templates]

thanks, it works with attribute_templates. I mixed up with new and old implementations. now I am converting all old implementations to new ones. i noticed, there is no 'friendly_name' in the new implementation. how can I achieve that? For example in this case

template:
  - sensor:
    - name: hue_toilet_motion_sensor_battery
      unit_of_measurement: '%'
      state: "{{state_attr('binary_sensor.hue_motion_sensor_1_motion', 'battery_level')}}"

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 1:08 PM

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name is friendly_name

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use unique_id to set the object_id

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 2:16 PM

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anybody that can offer some wisdom on templating the navigation_path for a tap action in lovelace?

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i've been asking in #frontend-archived but maybe it's an issue with my template?

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 2:16 PM

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you can't template the frontend

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there are custom cards that allow you to template things, but that's it. Only built-in card that can be templated is the markdown card

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 2:18 PM

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i have successfully used custom:card-templater before

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and am trying now, but it's not doing what i expect, even per the docs for that card

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 2:19 PM

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🤷‍♂️ you'd have to post configuration

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 2:19 PM

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#frontend-archived message

arctic jay Sep 15, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Hi there again, as @mighty ledge suggested i tried to use rest integration and not rest sensor. I still cannot get the correct value.
Am I using it correctly? can use attributes like this? dataList[2]???

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rest:

resource: https://api.solarmanpv.com/device/v1.0/currentData?appId=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX&language=en&=
scan_interval: 300
headers:
Authorization: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Content-Type: application/json
payload: '{ "deviceSn": "XXXXXXXXXXXX"}'
sensor:
- name: "TEST SOLAR"
  value_template: "OK"
  json_attributes:
  - "deviceType"
  - "dataList[19]"
  - "dataList[21]"

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Anyone can confirm this?

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 4:31 PM

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json_attributes string | list (optional)
A list of keys to extract values from a JSON dictionary result and then set as sensor attributes.

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The key names. Not paths to anything beneath those keys.

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You probably need to create multiple sensors instead. States are more useful than attributes anyway.

arctic jay Sep 15, 2021, 4:35 PM

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every dataList[X].value have a value that i need, and the X goes from 1-30. Do i need to create 30 sensores? I will need to get information from the API 30x every 300 seconds... ?

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 4:36 PM

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That or create a custom integration 🤷‍♂️

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 4:36 PM

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arctic jay every dataList[X].value have a value that i need, and the X goes from 1-30. Do i...

create 30 sensors in the sensor section, all with value_templates that pull the data you want. If you read the documentation instead of following the examples, you'd read that it only performs 1 get to populate all the sensors.

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rest:
- ... all your setup junk ...
  sensor:
  - name: sensor 1
    value_template: "{{ value_json.deviceType }}"
  - name: sensor 2
    value_template: "{{ value_json.dataList[19] }}"
  - ... etc ...

arctic jay Sep 15, 2021, 4:55 PM

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mighty ledge create 30 sensors in the sensor section, all with value_templates that pull the ...

Its WORKING! I love you all!! thanks!

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sry for my dumb and lazy person

distant plover Sep 15, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Is there a simple way to have the last word say 'time' when result is 1 and else 'timer'?

    state_attr('input_datetime.vaskemaskin_startet', 'timestamp')) |
    timestamp_custom('%H') |int }} timer.```

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 4:59 PM

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set the result equal to a variable and use almost what you have written in your sentence

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Iknow you know how to do this, you've asked questions many times here before

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start with the first part. How do you set something to a variable? There's literally hundreds of thousands of examples

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start simple, just set something like x equal to 1

distant plover Sep 15, 2021, 5:08 PM

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I think I found a different way but it might be silly:

    state_attr('input_datetime.vaskemaskin_startet', 'timestamp')) |
    timestamp_custom('%H') |int == 1%}1 time{% else %}{{ (now().timestamp() -
    state_attr('input_datetime.vaskemaskin_startet', 'timestamp')) |
    timestamp_custom('%H') |int }} timer. {% endif %}

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 5:09 PM

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yep that will work, but if you just learned how to set something, it would be alot smaller. Either way, you do you

distant plover Sep 15, 2021, 5:19 PM

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But you still meant using if and else? Like so?

    state_attr('input_datetime.vaskemaskin_startet', 'timestamp')) |
    timestamp_custom('%H') |int %}
Vaskemaskiiinen er nå ferdig etter {% if vaskemaskin_timer == 1%}1 time{% else %}{{ vaskemaskin_timer }} timer. {% endif %}```

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 5:19 PM

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yah but you can use inline if statements, which is almost word for word what you typed

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you said " say 'time' when result is 1 and else 'timer'?"

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literally almost word for word

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just sayin 😉

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 5:34 PM

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More concise and easier to read too smart2

distant plover Sep 15, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Ah. Thanks!

rugged laurel Sep 15, 2021, 5:49 PM

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You got a few i to many in "Vaskemaskiiinen"

distant plover Sep 15, 2021, 6:02 PM

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It's because of the cloud_say service. For some reason that's the only way it will say it properly. 😄

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Same with tumble dryer (tørketrommelen) that needs to be spelled 'tørke-trommelen'. Otherwise it puts in a 'u' instead of 'o'.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:04 PM

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trying to figure out a template to give all automations which triggered within x amount of time

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any ideas?

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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What have you tried?

rugged laurel Sep 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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distant plover Same with tumble dryer (tørketrommelen) that needs to be spelled 'tørke-trommele...

hahahaha 😂 I would just use English in that case

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:05 PM

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As a hint... seems easy to grab all the automations and run them though rejectattr.

distant plover Sep 15, 2021, 6:07 PM

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rugged laurel hahahaha 😂 I would just use English in that case

My workaround works just fine. 😉

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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How stupid is this template? I mean, is there a better way doing this. 🙂

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{% if lights|length == 0 %}
{{ 'Verlichting staat uit' }}
{% elif lights|length == 1 %}
{{ '1 lamp aan' }}
{% elif lights|length == 2 %}
{{ '2 lampen aan' }}
{% elif lights|length == 3 %}
{{ '3 lampen aan' }}
{% endif %}```

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:09 PM

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To get lamp vs lampen?

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Yeah i want to show 1 light on, 2 lights on, etc and if lights off "Lights Off".

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But i'm not skilled in this so that's the easiest way i can found for me. 🙂

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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In your language, how many numbers would use 'lamp'?

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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One

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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Right... so that's the only special case to cover.

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 6:10 PM

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1 lamp or 2 lampen

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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An almost identical question was just asked... #templates-archived message

dreamy sinew Sep 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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and if you don't care about the object_ids anymore you can pare down your set

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drop the map

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 6:11 PM

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Haha that's to much for me phnx, i just "stole" your template from yesterday and changed it a bit. 😄

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Maybe i just keeps this because it works and otherwise i will make it worse it think...

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:13 PM

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thinkgif

dreamy sinew Sep 15, 2021, 6:14 PM

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{{ '{} lamp{} aan'.format(lights|length, 'en' if lights|length > 1 else '') }}

edgy umbra Sep 15, 2021, 6:17 PM

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Where will this be placed in the template?

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If i do it like this it says "0 lamp aan" but there are "3 lampen aan".

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{% if lights|length == 0 %}
{{ 'Verlichting staat uit' }}
{% elif lights|length == 1 %}
{{ '1 lamp aan' }}
{% elif lights|length == 2 %}
{{ '2 lampen aan' }}
{% elif lights|length == 3 %}
{{ '3 lampen aan' }}
{% endif %}```

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

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That isn't supposed to be the first line. It's supposed to replace the numerous ones beneath.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:26 PM

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ivory delta As a hint... seems easy to grab all the automations and run them though `rejecta...

so like i know this isn't right:

{% set automations = states.automation %}
{{ automations | rejectattr('last_triggered', '>', '300') | list }}

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how do i get the last triggered from a datetime into a float so i can compare to now? basically

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Well that's not going to be testing the last_triggered anyway. You want 'attributes.last_triggered'.

dreamy sinew Sep 15, 2021, 6:27 PM

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leave them both as datetime objects and compare directly

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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i want to do something like "all automations that triggered in the last 5 minutes"

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so i think i need to do now - 300s and reject anything greater than that

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:28 PM

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ivory delta Well that's not going to be testing the `last_triggered` anyway. You want 'attri...

is that not what rejectattr is doing?

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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Try it yourself. Simplify it so you can see it a step at a time.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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well i can see that last_triggered is an attribute of the entities

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:29 PM

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What does this give you?
{{ expand(states.automation) | map(attribute='last_triggered') | list }}

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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a bunch of undefined

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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And how about this?
{{ expand(states.automation) | map(attribute='attributes.last_triggered') | list }}

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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so if i put attributes.last_triggered i get datetimes

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Hence... #templates-archived message

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Jinja doesn't know what HA attributes are. You have to tell it where to look...

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:31 PM

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ok but for example this isn't right syntax: rejectattr(attribute='attributes.last_triggered', '>', now())

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:31 PM

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No, it's not. What's it telling you?

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:31 PM

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TemplateSyntaxError: invalid syntax for function call expression lol

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:31 PM

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you don't need the expand

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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and this: rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', '>', now())

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gets me TypeError: '>' not supported between instances of 'NoneType' and 'datetime.datetime'

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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{{ states.automation | map(attribute='attributes.last_triggered') | list }}

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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because i have a bunch of undefineds in there

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:32 PM

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Nothing to do with undefined...

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If you're using rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered'..., they're not undefined.

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You just proved that by using a map to see the values.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:33 PM

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seems to me that rejectattr and map have different syntax

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:33 PM

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what they're looking for is the same.

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:33 PM

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map, requires you to explain what you want to map

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rejectattr and setattr expect attributes, so you don't need attribute=""

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so yes, the syntax is different

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:34 PM

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But you still need 'attributes.', which is what they're disputing.

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:34 PM

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yes, because that's the attribute

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:34 PM

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See for yourself, drinfernoo:
{{ states.automation | selectattr('attributes.mode', 'eq', 'parallel') | list }}

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Works fine. Syntax isn't the problem.

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The comparison is, which is what it's telling you.

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:34 PM

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in map you'd need attribute='attributes.last_triggered'

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in selectattr/rejectattr you just use 'attributes.last_triggered'

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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ok

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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the attribute doesn't change between the 2 methods

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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so i need to figure out the comparison

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:35 PM

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well, nothing is going to be > now()

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so your logic is flawed

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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yeah i know that

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i'm just trying to get a tempalte that "works" atm

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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to do what

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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not error lol

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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i want to do something like "all automations that triggered in the last 5 minutes"

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:36 PM

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^

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so like this: {{ states.automation | rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', '>', (now() | float) - 300) | list }}

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but last_triggered is obv not a float

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:37 PM

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{{ states.automation | rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', <, now()-timedelta(minutes=5)) | map(attribute='entity_id') | list }}

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but you might have to reject missing last_triggereds

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:38 PM

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{{ states.automation | rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', '<', now()-timedelta(minutes=5)) | map(attribute='entity_id') | list }}

TypeError: '<' not supported between instances of 'NoneType' and 'datetime.datetime'

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:38 PM

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#templates-archived message

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:38 PM

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yeah umm

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{{ states.automation | rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', 'eq', none) | rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', '<', now()-timedelta(minutes=5)) | map(attribute='entity_id') | list }}

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seems to do it

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:41 PM

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Just for semantics, I'd suggest going with this:
{{ states.automation | rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', 'eq', none) | selectattr('attributes.last_triggered', '>', now()-timedelta(minutes=5)) | map(attribute='entity_id') | list }}

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The fewer negatives, the better. Easier to understand when you want to read it in a few months.

dreamy sinew Sep 15, 2021, 6:42 PM

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sounds like a lesson learned the hard way 😛

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:42 PM

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ah yeah ok

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i could also do selectattr when ne to none right?

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:43 PM

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dreamy sinew sounds like a lesson learned the hard way 😛

We've all struggled with boolean logic at some point, right? I particularly hate nested ternary expressions 🤢

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:43 PM

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I like to think in double negatives

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:44 PM

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blazing burrow i could also do selectattr when `ne` to `none` right?

No... I left that the same deliberately. For the first part, you're throwing out the bits you don't want. For the next part, you're keeping the bits you want.

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:44 PM

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its not never the correct way to do things

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:49 PM

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ok so... now i'm stuck again on how exactly to use this for what i want

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i'm using it in a template filter for custom:auto-entities

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but i want to pass options to the entity row as well

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which is setting options: ... for include: and exclude: filters

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but for a template filter i have to return the whole entity object

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:51 PM

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So return the objects.

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Just don't map the entity ID...

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The base form of your 'get every automation from the last X minutes is something like this:

  | rejectattr('attributes.last_triggered', 'eq', None) 
  | selectattr('attributes.last_triggered', 'gt', utcnow()-timedelta(minutes=60)) 
  | list 
}}```

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Map what you want out of it when you need it. Otherwise, that's just a list of state objects.

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(also, bonus points for formatting it to be easy to read 😉 )

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I thought there was a way to map that properly with auto entities where it uses the entity_id and it's mapped to properly place it in the object

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:53 PM

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well i mean it gives me the entity ids which is fine

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:53 PM

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I can't remember tho because I haven't used that in like 2 years, ditched it for lovelace_gen

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 6:53 PM

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but like for example:

filter:
  include:
    - domain: light
      state: "on" # Remember that "on" and "off" are magic in yaml, and must always be quoted
      options:
        tap_action:
          action: toggle

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that is an example FROM github

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not mine

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but i need to pass the options: block as well

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and template: filter doesn't support that

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so i think my template needs to include all those options?

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frick idk

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maybe that's something i should take to #frontend-archived now

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 6:54 PM

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You're looking at the wrong bit of the docs, but yes... go to #frontend-archived

mighty ledge Sep 15, 2021, 6:54 PM

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pretty sure you just apply that filter after your entity_id filter

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:19 PM

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https://www.hastebin.com/walucixate.yaml

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feel like this template still isn't right

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:22 PM

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What does it output?

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:23 PM

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nothing... testing in template editor and a bit sutck

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well, i shouldn't say nothing

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:23 PM

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It'll tell you what's wrong...

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:23 PM

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doesn't show any entities in the card

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Put it in the Dev Tools. Tell us what it shows.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:23 PM

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it tells me

TemplateSyntaxError: unexpected '%'

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Right. Because you have a template inside a template. That's invalid.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:24 PM

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ok

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:26 PM

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I have no idea what you think you're referring to with config.entity either.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:27 PM

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yeah, i changed it to id

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for id in ids

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:27 PM

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Nor do I know what you're trying to do with having a | inside a string.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:27 PM

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took those out too

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works now in dev tools but

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:28 PM

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And the | before an object for tap_action? sus_think

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:28 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/w0XfUCm

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https://www.hastebin.com/qirisenoma.yaml

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:29 PM

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Now you have strings that span multiple lines, rather than multiline templates...

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But if it works...

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:30 PM

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well it shows me stuff in dev tools

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but obv lovelace not liking it

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:31 PM

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template: | probably has something to do with it.

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Why not template: >?

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https://yaml-multiline.info/

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:32 PM

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ah well didn't change anything

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i had used | because of

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something

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idr

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type: custom:auto-entities
card:
  type: entities
filter:
  template: |
    {% for light in states.light %}
      {% if light.state == "on" %}
        {{ light.entity_id}},
      {% endif %}
    {% endfor %}

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that

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from auto entities docs

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actually when i changed it to >, it changed it back to | when i saved

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this is the output inside dev tools: https://www.hastebin.com/iwavavebat.json

charred dagger Sep 15, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Make sure that when you test it in dev-templates it says "Result type: list"

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:36 PM

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ohhh it's counting all my commas as a new list item

charred dagger Sep 15, 2021, 7:36 PM

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That requires some trickery with quotes and stuff. This works, for example: {%- set ids = states.automation | map(attribute='entity_id') | list -%} [ {% for id in ids -%} { "entity": "{{id}}", "secondary_info": "last-changed", }, {%- endfor %} ]

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:37 PM

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wait what?

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sorry, i'm missing something

charred dagger Sep 15, 2021, 7:38 PM

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And since the results you want includes templates, you also need {% raw %} {% endraw %} in some places.

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:39 PM

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🐰 🕳️

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:41 PM

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so raw/endraw should basically go around any of my "inner" templates?

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around the whole thing or around each line?

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inside or outside of quotes?

charred dagger Sep 15, 2021, 7:42 PM

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And then there's the newlines...

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[
{% for id in ids -%}
{
  "type": "custom:template-entity-row",
  "state_color": "true",
  "secondary": "{%raw%}{%- if state_attr(id, 'last_triggered') -%}{{ relative_time(state_attr(id, 'last_triggered')) }} ago{%- else -%}Never triggered{%- endif -%}{%endraw%}",
  "state": "{%raw%}{%- if state_attr(id, 'current') == 0 -%}Not Running{%- else -%}{{ state_attr(id, 'current') }} Running{%- endif -%}{%endraw%}",
 "tap_action": {
   "action": "navigate",
   "navigation_path": "/config/automation/trace/{{ id.split('.')[1] }}"
  }
},
{%- endfor %}
]```

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:42 PM

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hmm ok lemme see

charred dagger Sep 15, 2021, 7:43 PM

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ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 7:46 PM

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charred dagger And since the results you want includes templates, you also need `{% raw %} {% e...

This bit is magic.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 7:47 PM

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actually ended up not needing the raw/endraw or removing newlines

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it was the quotes around my tap_action json

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simply removing those made it resolve as a string

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and my card works 🎉

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 8:46 PM

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ivory delta The base form of your 'get every automation from the last X minutes is something...

can I sort that list by last-triggered?

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seems auto entities sort doesn't work with template filter either

silent barnBOT Sep 15, 2021, 8:47 PM

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@blazing burrow When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 8:47 PM

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yeah I clicked it too fast 😨

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 8:47 PM

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If you want to sort, sort before you start looping.

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There's a Jinja filter for sort.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 8:47 PM

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ah ok, works similar to map/selectattr/etc?

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I'll look it up, nvm

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 8:48 PM

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There's a reason we have pins for the common questions 😉

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 9:09 PM

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ayyy built in filters lol

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it worked, thanks 😁

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Filters are powerful once you understand how to combine them.

blazing burrow Sep 15, 2021, 9:27 PM

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I'm learning... slowly

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haven't done many of those more complex ones

vital comet Sep 15, 2021, 9:36 PM

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hoi, i need a tiny bit of help

state: "{{((states('sensor.lux_ups_time') | float + states('sensor.caitlyn_ups_time') | float ))}}"

If i put / 6000 at the end will it actually divide the whole thing of do i need to do something different?

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 9:37 PM

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If you just add it to the end, it'll divide the last number.

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 9:38 PM

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Try it in devtools -> templates

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 9:38 PM

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You need to wrap them in parentheses to ensure the division happens last.

vital comet Sep 15, 2021, 9:39 PM

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but just putting the / 6000 after brackets should work? HAS has many times screwd my brain process before

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 9:39 PM

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Try it and see

vital comet Sep 15, 2021, 9:43 PM

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as helpfull as that may be some come here to get a quick and simple answer...not "try a billion times and see what works" ^.^
Thanks for the help @ivory delta

ivory delta Sep 15, 2021, 9:43 PM

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Did you get it figured out?

vital comet Sep 15, 2021, 9:43 PM

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yep just the brackets as you said ^.^

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 9:45 PM

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Sigh. You can try something like that in much less time than it takes to post in devtools -> Templates. That’s my point

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‘What will it do if I do this?’ Are easily answered there

vital comet Sep 15, 2021, 9:47 PM

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but once someone has asked you can probably answer them in a normal way rather than say to find it out the hard way....idk at least that would be more helpful in my opinion(if not helpful than at least nice and polite), Thanks for all the help and ima hop out till i need something again

vital comet Sep 15, 2021, 10:31 PM

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also how do i use an entity from a template in the energy thini?

pliant dagger Sep 15, 2021, 11:23 PM

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Got a qq here. I have a value template that I'm trying to figure out with a water sensor. I've been racking my brain with this one but the sensor in HA always reports Unknown. Even though the entity is reporting a 0

  sensors:
    laundry_room_wet_sensor:
      friendly_name: "Laundry Room Water"
      value_template: >-
        {% if is_state('number.basement_water_sensor_basic',  255) %}
          wet
        {% elif is_state('number.basement_water_sensor_basic',  0) %}
          dry
        {% else %}
          n/a
        {% endif %}```

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I'm sure I'm missing something dumb

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yes I've tested this out in the developer tools with success so I'm not sure whats missing in transit

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 11:30 PM

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States are strings and you’re comparing the state to a number

pliant dagger Sep 15, 2021, 11:31 PM

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I was wondering if that was it

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sorry the number item is new to me

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 11:31 PM

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It’s confusing. The state of a number.xx entity is a string

pliant dagger Sep 15, 2021, 11:32 PM

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ok so wrap the 255 in single ticks

inner mesa Sep 15, 2021, 11:32 PM

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Yes

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And the 0

pliant dagger Sep 15, 2021, 11:32 PM

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lol all I wanna know is if the hoses on the washer bust

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and of course turn off the water if that happens

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neighbor had that happen to them and ever since I've been like I need to automate this

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ok so got that in there now but the template entity still reports it as Unknown even though thats not one of my values

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Correction it just changed over to n/a

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and I can confirm that the device is reporting in the 255

2021-09-15 23:36:21.255 INFO ZWAVE: Node 41: value updated: 32-0-currentValue 0 => 255``` from zwavejs logs

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and I can see the number entity in HA change to 255 but the template will not update

autumn grotto Sep 16, 2021, 2:56 AM

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hopefully a quick one for someone:

I've got an input_datetime helper set to 05:15, but {{ (state_attr('input_datetime.climate_start','timestamp')) | timestamp_custom('%I:%M %p') }} gives me 03:15 PM

developer tools output:

editable: true
has_date: false
has_time: true
hour: 5
minute: 15
second: 0
timestamp: 18900
friendly_name: Climate Start

I'm sure there's something I'm missing, but what...?

autumn grotto Sep 16, 2021, 3:06 AM

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autumn grotto hopefully a quick one for someone: I've got an `input_datetime` helper set to `...

for those having a similar issue, timestamp_custom is assuming the input is UTC and offsetting for local time (timestamp_custom(format_string, local_time=True)) so doing timestamp_custom('%I:%M %p', False) gives me the correct output of 05:15 AM

<<< Read the docs!

terse yoke Sep 16, 2021, 5:22 AM

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Hi guys, How could I pull light color value to variable, so I can use it for something else in automation later on? I tried below way (and few modifications with and without quoting), but it is not working. I get "Message malformed: extra keys not allowed @ data['variables']

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platform: state entity_id: light.lampkidsroom_1 variables: color_name: > {% states.light.lampkidsroom_1.attributes.rgb_color }

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thx

inner mesa Sep 16, 2021, 5:25 AM

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Right, that’s bad syntax

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Why a variable? Can’t you just refer to the attribute?

terse yoke Sep 16, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Yes, I know that. I am not skilled with codding, but I'm "swimming" when have right syntax :)

terse yoke Sep 16, 2021, 5:28 AM

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inner mesa Why a variable? Can’t you just refer to the attribute?

You mean that in action: I should use state rgb attribute directly?

inner mesa Sep 16, 2021, 5:30 AM

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I can’t really figure out what you’re trying to do there. If you want to use the value of an attribute as data to a service call, then you just use {{ state_attr(‘light.lampkidsroom1’, ‘rgb_color’) }}

terse yoke Sep 16, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Yes, I want to use rgb value of one bulb to set that rgb value on another bulb with service call light.turn_on

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Will try with your propose above

inner mesa Sep 16, 2021, 5:31 AM

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Right, so you do it that way

terse yoke Sep 16, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Thx

wraith kernel Sep 16, 2021, 6:48 AM

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Hello all. I have a question. I created statistics for a sensor, and then I want to get the statistics attribute for this sensor to use in automation. But for some reason the attribute is constantly "unknown"

`- platform: statistics
name: "CO2_white_stat"
entity_id: sensor.CO2_white

platform: template
sensors:
co2whitechange:
friendly_name: "CO2 white change"
value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.CO2_white', 'change') }}"`

use in UI sensor co2whitechange does not output number
but on the main sensor I get all the statistics data, they are collected and displayed, but I cannot take one attribute separately
Please tell me what I did wrong?)

fossil venture Sep 16, 2021, 7:46 AM

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wraith kernel Hello all. I have a question. I created statistics for a sensor, and then I want...

You are using the wrong entity id, the stats sensor should be this according to what you have posted (taken from the name): ```
value_template: "{{ state_attr('sensor.co2_white_stat', 'change') }}"

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Also entity ids never have capital letters.

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Also, also you probably don't need a template sensor for this. Numeric state triggers and conditions can access attributes.

wraith kernel Sep 16, 2021, 8:04 AM

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fossil venture You are using the wrong entity id, the stats sensor should be this according to ...

thank you dear friend!!!
It helped me a lot and I understood everything at once)

tacit arch Sep 16, 2021, 6:31 PM

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Hello, I have a sensor on home power consumption, not on the meter, so I should use a template to create a new energy sensor
I need something like
if ( consumed power > produced power )
return consumed power - produced power
else
return 0
could you help me? Thanks

dreamy sinew Sep 16, 2021, 6:34 PM

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{% set diff = states('sensor.consumed_power')|float - states('sensor.produced_power')|float %}
{{ diff if diff > 0 else 0 }}

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replace those 2 sensors with your actual sensors

tacit arch Sep 16, 2021, 6:35 PM

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dreamy sinew replace those 2 sensors with your actual sensors

thanks!

tacit arch Sep 16, 2021, 6:59 PM

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surely my fault, but Error loading /config/configuration.yaml: while scanning for the next token
found character '%' that cannot start any token
in "/config/configuration.yaml", line 123, column 26

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sensor:

platform: template
sensors:
power_taken_grid:
friendly_name: Energia Prelevata Rete
value_template: {% set diff = states('sensor.power_home_energy_power')|float -
states('sensor.power_powerplant_energy_power')|float %}
{{ diff if diff > 0 else 0 }}
device_class: energy
unit_of_measurement: "kW"

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 7:02 PM

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Either have your template on a single line and wrap it with quotes, or use multi-line templates.

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https://yaml-multiline.info/

tacit arch Sep 16, 2021, 7:04 PM

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ivory delta Either have your template on a single line and wrap it with quotes, or use multi...

thanks!

mellow pulsar Sep 16, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Greetings! .. I am in process of converting my mqtt fans to the new method for using speeds and I am following the information in the following post (At least I think I am anyway! 🙂 ) : https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-using-the-ifan03-ifan02-running-tasmota-on-mqtt-with-the-newest-updates-to-the-fan-control-models-after-ha-v2021-3-x/297736

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here is the link to the config yaml I am using.

silent barnBOT Sep 16, 2021, 8:08 PM

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@mellow pulsar posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/nukidubusi

mellow pulsar Sep 16, 2021, 8:08 PM

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I believe I have only modified the name, and the states names to reflect changes for my HA instance.

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I am getting the following error when trying to start ..

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The system cannot restart because the configuration is not valid: Error loading /config/configuration.yaml: while parsing a block mapping in "/config/configuration.yaml", line 1, column 1 expected <block end>, but found '-' in "/config/configuration.yaml", line 692, column 1

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692 in my config yaml is at the end of the section above for a different entity and it is ok.

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help! 🙂

tawny locust Sep 16, 2021, 8:36 PM

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can someone help me with this 'template'
Game: [[ if(sensor.lich_XXXX.attributes.game == null, "") ]]

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i want that "null" should be clear, but when its not "null" it should show the state

mellow pulsar Sep 16, 2021, 8:36 PM

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instead of using null, use ''

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for empty string

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that is 2 single quotes

tawny locust Sep 16, 2021, 8:37 PM

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Result is this for now:

Game: [[ Template matching failed: if(sensor.lich_5769.attributes.game == null, "") ]]

tawny locust Sep 16, 2021, 8:37 PM

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mellow pulsar instead of using null, use ''

ok i changed that

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 8:37 PM

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That doesn't look like Jinja.

tawny locust Sep 16, 2021, 8:38 PM

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how can i make it better ?

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Well... what is it? It's not Jinja. Are you trying to write JavaScript for a #frontend-archived card?

tawny locust Sep 16, 2021, 8:38 PM

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i think so

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 8:38 PM

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.share the whole thing

silent barnBOT Sep 16, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

https://www.codepile.net/ (select YAML as the language)
https://paste.debian.net/ (select YAML as the language)
https://hastebin.com/ (sometimes may not allow you to save)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view.

tawny locust Sep 16, 2021, 8:39 PM

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https://www.hastebin.com/zemuqaceho.lua

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result
https://ibb.co/rw9XT9q

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 8:40 PM

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So that's quite clearly a card... and you're lost. You want #frontend-archived

tawny locust Sep 16, 2021, 8:40 PM

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hmpf

floral shuttle Sep 16, 2021, 9:45 PM

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posted this value_template {{value|round(2) if value < 2500 else 2500}} in #devs_zwave-archived as a possible but hacky way to protect my mqtt sensors in Ha from hysterical spikes. I know you say prevent sh*t from the source, but there's no way. So will test this for some time. Just asking here if this template could be written with other jinja tools/function/filter to set a ceiling value?

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 9:53 PM

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Sure, use min.

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The list of available filters is in the pins.

floral shuttle Sep 16, 2021, 9:55 PM

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also, to prevent a spike from lets say 200000kWh while it needs to be 34 kWh ( I kid you not) Id consider a value_template to check if the new value is smaller than +10%, and if not, remain with the old value. Would this do: {% if value > states(entity_id) * 1.1 %} {{ states(entity_id) | round(2) }} {% else %} {{ value | round(2)}} {% endif %}

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 9:56 PM

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And what if there's a genuine reason for an increase greater than 10%?

floral shuttle Sep 16, 2021, 9:57 PM

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I dont think that will ever happen on a kWh sensor, but maybe I could set it a bit higher

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final question, and this might be the most difficult, are negative dents of the same size on the kWh sensors. I could simply use value < states(entity_id) * 1.1 or another number, but would need to take a true reset into account. Maybe exclude the value == 0 situation?

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 10:05 PM

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I still think you're overthinking it. What's the highest legitimate value you've seen, and have any spikes been less than that?

floral shuttle Sep 16, 2021, 10:10 PM

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well, yes, its a bit weird but right now I see a kWh sensor which should grow from 847 onward, had a dent to 0.7 this morning and shortly after that returned to 847+..likewise I have the mentioned spike from 32.25 to 167804.41 back to normal 32,34 ... so yeah these are pretty wide ranged issues...

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btw the first one would be {{min(value|round(2), 2500)}}? nice!

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 10:27 PM

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Personally, I'd do it the other way round. Pipe a list into the filter... but same thing.

ivory delta Sep 16, 2021, 10:28 PM

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floral shuttle well, yes, its a bit weird but right now I see a kWh sensor which should grow fr...

If the spikes are always crazy big numbers, the 10% increase thing in unnecessary. Stick with picking the smaller of two numbers, where one is your upper limit.

pastel moon Sep 17, 2021, 5:14 AM

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Hi guys. Trying to understand how to use a for loop, but I fail to make it return entity_id's. What am I missing? ```

service: script.turn_on
data_template:

entity_id: ['script.hallway', 'script.kitchen', 'script.living_room']

  entity_id: >                                                                          
    [{%- for room in ['hallway', 'kitchen', 'living-room'] -%}                          
      script.{{ room }}                                                                 
     {% endfor %}]```

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the commented out line works, and does what I want. I'd like the loop to do that as well, but....

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 5:17 AM

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It’s curious syntax

pastel moon Sep 17, 2021, 5:18 AM

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I saw it in the chat some time ago and thought I'd save it for later...

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 5:18 AM

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You saw that?

pastel moon Sep 17, 2021, 5:19 AM

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An example using this technique. So basically, the loop needs another syntax?

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I have of course added my entities to it, but other than that just left out an if statement I don't need

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 5:24 AM

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one way:

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{% set rooms = ["foo", "bar", "blah"] %}
{% for room in rooms -%}
  script.{{room}}{{", " if not loop.last }}
{%- endfor %}

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-> script.foo, script.bar, script.blah

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I don't think you can embed a template in square brackets to form a list like that

pastel moon Sep 17, 2021, 5:27 AM

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Oh! Thank you. No, the trace just printed the whole thing, so did not get interpreted correctly. Will test your code 🙂

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 5:32 AM

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ooh, even better:

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{{ ["foo", "blah"]|map('regex_replace', '^', "script.")|list|join(', ') }}

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I like that a lot

pastel moon Sep 17, 2021, 5:32 AM

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Works very nice! Thanks! 👍

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 5:32 AM

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that last one is very sexy

pastel moon Sep 17, 2021, 5:33 AM

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I'll try that too, agree, like the compact syntax 🙂

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 5:33 AM

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-> script.foo, script.blah

pastel moon Sep 17, 2021, 5:36 AM

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Perfect! I use this a lot, so will be very useful! Thanks 🙂

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 7:28 AM

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ivory delta Personally, I'd do it the other way round. Pipe a list into the filter... but sa...

sorry for the tag, but this was long way up... what do you mean there?

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 9:16 AM

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btw having terrible type error issues with the entity_id templates on mqtt, I cant get them to work. so I tested the example template https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sensor.mqtt/#usage-of-entity_id-in-the-template and even that throws TypeError: can't multiply sequence by non-int of type 'float' Is that bugged?

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can only get a working template if I float states(entity_id) which makes that 0 in case of unknown. So basically useless....

charred dagger Sep 17, 2021, 9:21 AM

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If states(entity_id) | float * 0.1 return 0 then your state was either 0 or nullish and then it would make perfect sense.

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 9:22 AM

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yes, but the state wasnt 0 or nullish... I am trying to do this {% set old = states(entity_id) %} {% set new = value %} {% if old == 0 and new < 2 %} {{new}} {% elif new > old * 1.5 or (new < old and value != 0) %} {{old}} {% else %} {{new}} {% endif %}

charred dagger Sep 17, 2021, 9:22 AM

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I never used entity_id in mqtt sensors, so I don't know how or if they work

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 9:23 AM

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I thought that's how I have to explain the example in the mqtt docs

charred dagger Sep 17, 2021, 9:23 AM

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What is your old value?

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Not sure... the one before the current 😉

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 9:24 AM

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Pretty sure that var doesn’t exist

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 9:25 AM

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yes, that is what I was beginning to wonder about too, it is explicitly noted in the docs though as being available https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sensor.mqtt/#value_template

charred dagger Sep 17, 2021, 9:25 AM

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Seems it should exist https://github.com/home-assistant/core/blob/dev/homeassistant/components/mqtt/sensor.py#L182

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 9:27 AM

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As I read that example, states(entity_id) is kind of a from_state and value is the to_state .. kind of

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 10:28 AM

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I was able to use the example template on a temp entity, and noticed it was unavailable at first, but after an update started to show. however, when using even {% set old = states(entity_id) %} {{old}} on my energy sensors (which have updated while I waited) they remain unavailable after mqtt reload, and unknown upon HA restart.

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:12 AM

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floral shuttle I was able to use the example template on a temp entity, and noticed it was unav...

yeah.... because the old state on startup is unkonwn and it'll never update if you only provide the old state, which is always unknown...

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:13 AM

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was just experimenting with {% if old == None %} {{new}}

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:13 AM

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but new doesn't exist

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:13 AM

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but that remains unknown too.... new is value

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:13 AM

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and you're missing the endif

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:13 AM

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      {% set new = value %}
      {% if old == None %} {{new}}
      {% elif old == 0 and new < 2 %} {{new}}
      {% elif new > old * 1.5 or
                     (new < old and new != 0) %}
                      {{old}}
      {% else %} {{new}}
      {% endif %}```

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:15 AM

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well, you never cast old to a float

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 11:15 AM

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floral shuttle sorry for the tag, but this was long way up... what do you mean there?

{{ [1,1000] | min }} # returns 1

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I just prefer pipes over functions.

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Still the same filter, just a different style of writing it.

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:16 AM

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still need to cast old to a int or float

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which you aren't doing

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:16 AM

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ok let me try that

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:16 AM

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it'll never be none then

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so you have to do it after the if old == None

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:17 AM

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yes thats tricky, ran into trouble floating before, all templates remained 0 😉

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:19 AM

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why aren't you just using filter?

silent barnBOT Sep 17, 2021, 11:19 AM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/filter/

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:21 AM

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getting '>' not supported between instances of 'str' and 'float' if I use the |float on old... {% set old = states(entity_id) %} {% set new = value %} {% if old == None %} {{new}} {% elif old == 0 and new < 2 %} {{new}} {% elif new > old|float * 1.5 or (new < old and new != 0) %} {{old}} {% else %} {{new}} {% endif %}

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:22 AM

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value is also a string

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:23 AM

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filter: because a) that smoothes out the errors I like to ignore instead and b) needs yet another entity... Id hoped to do it all in the mqtt sensor config

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:25 AM

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outlier dude

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it does exactly what you're trying to do

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:25 AM

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if I use new = value|round(2), would new still be a string?

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:26 AM

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it should be a float at that point

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you should really just use the outlier filter

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or range

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if those don't get you what you want, make a FR for a range calc that acts like outlier

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outlier with a radius of 2 is very close to what you want but the band moves with the value.

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floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 11:40 AM

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thanks, Ill have a go at that. Meanwhile I tried this in template editor {% set old = states(entity_id) %} {% set new = value|round(2) %} {% if old is not none %} {% if old == 0 and new < 2 %} {{new}} {% elif new > old * 1.5 or (new < old and new != 0) %} {{old}} {% else %} {{new}} {% endif %} {% else %} {{new}} {% endif %} which seems to behave well

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but in the mqtt value_template it yields Unavailable....

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ofc I replace the values in the opening set's with test values

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like this {% set old = 0 %} {% set new = 1 %} {% if old is not none %} {% if old == 0 and new < 2 %} {{1}} {% elif new > old * 1.5 or (new < old and new != 0) %} {{2}} {% else %} {{3}} {% endif %} {% else %} {{4}} {% endif %}

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:45 AM

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figure out which is causing the problem

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new or old

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by hardcoding new or old and keeping the other the value it's supposed to be

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 11:48 AM

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Or using outlier 😄

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 11:48 AM

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no, that would be too easy

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at this point, I'd want to figure out where the fuck up is in the template

floral shuttle Sep 17, 2021, 12:04 PM

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test for existence needs to be {% if states(entity_id) not in ['unknown','unavailable'] %}

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at least that gets me past the initial test, and routes me to the correct endpoint in the template. Now I still need to test that with real life value, and see if an 'old' value is seen and compared to a new value, the actual latest mqtt value

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      {% set new = value|round(2) %}
      {% if states(entity_id) in ['unknown','unavailable'] %} {{new}}
      {% else %}
        {% set old = states(entity_id)|float %}
        {% if old == 0.0 and new < 2 %} {{new}}
        {% elif new > old * 1.5 or
                     (new < old and new != 0) %}
                      {{old}}
        {% else %} {{new}}
        {% endif %}
      {% endif %}

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maybe I need to use new != 0.0 in the elif, not sure yet...

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for now, I see the Energy sensors update their value and get a value at reload, so those bits of the template fare well. must yet experience a downward dip, or reset to 0 to see if they survive ;-0

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all in all I have capped my power sensors to the max rate limit of their documented range and guarded the energy sensors for these ridiculous spikes and dips. I feel the current 'dumb' energy integration really should be doing all of that, by implementing these heuristics.

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 2:45 PM

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if in configuration file I create a sensor, when I delete it from the file, it will survive? If I create another sensor with same id/name, will be a new sensor? I'm going banana

silent barnBOT Sep 17, 2021, 2:50 PM

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@tacit arch posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/rowokehiro

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 2:51 PM

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I have this in configuration
https://hastebin.com/rowokehiro
sensor.power_taken_grid appears name Not available

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 3:04 PM

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tacit arch I have this in configuration https://hastebin.com/rowokehiro sensor.power_taken_...

they are using the same unique_id

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Not so unique then 😂

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Generate UUID's for your unique ID's, then you don't have to remember which ones you've used before.

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Never trust a human to come up with anything unique or random.

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 3:18 PM

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I supposed a unique id of an existing entity, if I delete the entity I delete the id no?
I should do it on the db?

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 3:24 PM

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I don't know what you're asking. I can tell you, you should have 2 different unique_id's there. Not the same one.

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 3:48 PM

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mighty ledge I don't know what you're asking. I can tell you, you should have 2 different un...

unique_id: power_taken_grid
unique_id: power_given_grid
are different

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 3:55 PM

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ah i didn't notice that, it looked the same at a glance

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so you need to rephrase your question because I'm having a hard time understanding what you're asking

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:00 PM

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mighty ledge so you need to rephrase your question because I'm having a hard time understandi...

I can't understand why all this doesn't work, after a reboot sensor.power_taken_grid became unavailable and can't delete it. before I used the same name/id for another sensor, not more present. could this be the cause? If yes, how can I delete all data of a entity/sensor when deleted?

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:02 PM

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you can delete it from the entities page

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delete it, then restart

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:03 PM

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mighty ledge delete it, then restart

it's faded

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:03 PM

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screenshot?

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:05 PM

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mighty ledge screenshot?

https://ibb.co/QpxBmww

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https://ibb.co/R3bXkLt

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:06 PM

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does the sensor say "read only" on the entities list page?

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:07 PM

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no, only "this entity is unavailable

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:07 PM

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anyways, what you can do is rename the entity_id on that one (the one you can't delete), then find the new one that's being created and rename that to the old entity_id that you want.

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AH, nevermind

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i see your issue

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:09 PM

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ok, but usually how I delete all data associated to an entity?

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:09 PM

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tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:09 PM

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don't know, maybe are stored on db even if the entity have been deleted?

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:09 PM

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no, you have a bad configuration, look at the arrows

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:09 PM

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mighty ledge

I'm an idiot

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:09 PM

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hahaha, we've all done it

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:10 PM

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thanks

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 4:10 PM

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np

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I spent 3 hours this morning

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trying to find a bug in my code

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and it was a spelling error. in the word actual. I spelled it actaul

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so, definitely been there

tacit arch Sep 17, 2021, 4:13 PM

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ok, the entity now it's normal, I've to wait tomorrow to test if all works as I hope
thanks

fiery ledge Sep 17, 2021, 5:41 PM

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I have bit of a trouble with entities, they by default show as value based etc.. power meter and instead of text history I have value based one. Any idea how I can modify entity to correct this?

thorny snow Sep 17, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Hello! Anyone know how to call sqlite query from template?

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 5:59 PM

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You don't, templates don't make service calls.

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You can possibly use templates with the SQL sensor though - the sensor makes the SQL call, the template would just describe what call to make.

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 6:24 PM

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fiery ledge I have bit of a trouble with entities, they by default show as value based etc.....

are you talking about history graphs?

fiery ledge Sep 17, 2021, 6:52 PM

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mighty ledge are you talking about history graphs?

Yes somehow https://ibb.co/fMb4KJK take look at pic, history graph wants to graph value but this is text based entity

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Is it some parameter or something how how I can correct this?; perhaps through template? I have also open issue with integration developer more details here https://github.com/JoDehli/PyLoxone/issues/86

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 7:01 PM

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It has a unit of measurement

fiery ledge Sep 17, 2021, 7:05 PM

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It’s not explicitly configured, can I somehow enforce “none” to fix this?

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 7:07 PM

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You can customize it

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But it’s probably worth it just making a template boolean because it’s not really a sensor

fiery ledge Sep 17, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Any idea how to customize it? To get rid of this unit thingy?

mighty ledge Sep 17, 2021, 8:01 PM

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.customize

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/customizing-devices/

shell pine Sep 17, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Hi, how can I get the sum of multiple entities' states in a template? without listing them one by one
the entites are in numerical order name_1, name_2, name_3 etc so is there a way I can match them by regex name_\d and then get the sum with like a .sum() operation?

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 9:22 PM

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{{ states|selectattr('entity_id', 'match', 'input_number..*temp')|map(attribute='state')|map('int')|list|sum }}

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for instance

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@shell pine

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 9:25 PM

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You'll want to escape the first period in that: 'input_number\..*temp

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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it works as-is

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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Although the first would work because . will match any character, including the period 😂

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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yes

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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It's just somewhat redundant.

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 9:26 PM

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well, that's true. I could just leave it out entirely

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I think I had the same discussion recently - getting a sense of deja vu

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#general-archived message

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 9:32 PM

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search is always from the start of the string, right? I think I prefer match, even when I might be after the first part of a string, just so I don't have to remember two different tests.

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Oops, other way round.

inner mesa Sep 17, 2021, 9:33 PM

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anyway, I've contribute my required "interesting template of the day", so I guess it's time for a beer

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could be trouble, considering that it's only 2:30pm and I'm in my second week of a new job

ivory delta Sep 17, 2021, 9:34 PM

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It's Friday afternoon, no-one expects you to do any work.

shell pine Sep 17, 2021, 9:50 PM

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inner mesa `{{ states|selectattr('entity_id', 'match', 'input_number..*temp')|map(attribute...

thanks

plucky heron Sep 18, 2021, 2:17 AM

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i have some fields defined in a script, but I don't see the fields UI when calling it from an automation\script

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all i see is a data: field

plucky heron Sep 18, 2021, 2:45 AM

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whoops... didn't add a selector for the fields. it's working now

hexed badger Sep 18, 2021, 1:19 PM

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entity_id: counter.button3
value_template: xxx modulo 4 == 0 xxx``` Is there a way to test if counter.button3 % 4 == 0

fossil venture Sep 18, 2021, 1:43 PM

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platform: template
value_template: "{{ states('counter.button3')|int % 4 == 0 }}"

quick heath Sep 18, 2021, 4:23 PM

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My template won't round, what am I missing? {{ states('sensor.panel_total_kwh_cost') | float + 0.82 | round(2) }}

nocturne chasm Sep 18, 2021, 4:33 PM

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quick heath My template won't round, what am I missing? `{{ states('sensor.panel_total_kwh_c...

Put it in the template editor. Your results will be .82 so more than likely it is rounding but the rest of your template is wrong.

ivory delta Sep 18, 2021, 4:37 PM

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You're rounding the 0.82, not the result of the addition.

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Order of operations.

quick heath Sep 18, 2021, 4:38 PM

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ivory delta Order of operations.

Thanks

quick heath Sep 18, 2021, 4:49 PM

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ivory delta Order of operations.

Then I could make this two template sensors to get the wanted result. Is there a way to do this in one template?

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 4:55 PM

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Parentheses

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{{ (states('sensor.panel_total_kwh_cost') | float + 0.82) | round(2) }}

ivory delta Sep 18, 2021, 5:01 PM

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Quick maffs

quick heath Sep 18, 2021, 5:08 PM

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inner mesa `{{ (states('sensor.panel_total_kwh_cost') | float + 0.82) | round(2) }}`

Thanks!

frank yacht Sep 18, 2021, 6:23 PM

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Hello All. I'm having trouble with a template for the Emulated Kasa integration. I'm getting the following config invalid message after I input a template for the dimmer:
light.bedroom_1_bedroom_main_lights (its second from bottom). Attached is a link to debian...https://paste.debian.net/1212261. Can anyone point me in the right direction on where I'm screwing up? Thank you.

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Invalid config for [emulated_kasa]: expected float for dictionary value @ data['emulated_kasa']['entities']['light.bedroom_1_bedroom_main_lights']['power']. Got "{{ (state_attr(‘light.bedroom_1_bedroom_main_lights', 'brightness')|float/255|float)*72.0}}". (See /config/configuration.yaml, line 26).

mighty ledge Sep 18, 2021, 6:26 PM

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frank yacht Hello All. I'm having trouble with a template for the Emulated Kasa integration...

you have fancy quotes in there. Never copy/paste from a forum post if the code is unformatted

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your single quotes should be '

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not the fancy ones

frank yacht Sep 18, 2021, 6:30 PM

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mighty ledge not the fancy ones

i'm sorry, newbie here...what are the fancy ones? --> { & }?

mighty ledge Sep 18, 2021, 6:31 PM

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‘

frank yacht Sep 18, 2021, 6:31 PM

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should they be removed, or replaced with "

mighty ledge Sep 18, 2021, 6:31 PM

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read previous post

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 6:32 PM

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use normal quotes

frank yacht Sep 18, 2021, 6:41 PM

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inner mesa use normal quotes

http://paste.debian.net/1212267 ?

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 6:42 PM

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not quite

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now you're using the same quotes inside and outside

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which will break the parser

frank yacht Sep 18, 2021, 6:42 PM

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so only have them on the outside?

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 6:42 PM

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as you can see from the color-coding in your link

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also no

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I'm not sure what you're doing there, but something like this:

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light.bedroom_1_bedroom_main_lights:
      name: "Bedroom 1 Lights Current Consumption"
      power: "{{ (state_attr('light.bedroom_1_bedroom_main_lights', 'brightness')|float/255)*72.0}}"

frank yacht Sep 18, 2021, 6:46 PM

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inner mesa ``` light.bedroom_1_bedroom_main_lights: name: "Bedroom 1 Lights Current C...

thanks you, RobC!

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You're the man. I appreciate all your help...not just now...be also in the past.

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 6:50 PM

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I am trying to parse some nested JSON MQTT messages from a Tasmota sensor and nothing seems to work. Here is the message:

{"Time":"2021-09-18T11:43:28","MAX31865-0":{"Temperature":64.19,"Resistance":1069.72,"Error":0},"TempUnit":"F"}

I have tried:
value_template: "{{ value_json[['MAX31865-0'][0]['Temperature']] }}"

value_template: "{{ value_json.MAX31865-0.Temperature }}"

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 7:05 PM

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value_template: "{{ value_json['MAX31865-0'].Temperature }}"

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 7:15 PM

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I'm getting a value of Unknown

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 7:16 PM

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{% set data = {"Time":"2021-09-18T11:43:28","MAX31865-0":{"Temperature":64.19,"Resistance":1069.72,"Error":0},"TempUnit":"F"} %}
{{ data['MAX31865-0'].Temperature }}

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-> 64.19

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 7:17 PM

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platform: mqtt
name: "Wine Cellar Bottle Temperature"
state_topic: "tele/wine_cellar_2/Sensor"
unit_of_measurement: "°F"
value_template: "{{ value_json['MAX31865-0'].Temperature }}"

mighty ledge Sep 18, 2021, 7:19 PM

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fresh vortex - platform: mqtt name: "Wine Cellar Bottle Temperature" state_topic: "te...

look in your logs for the error

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 7:28 PM

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I don't see any errors in the log. I see that it works in the template tool.

mighty ledge Sep 18, 2021, 7:33 PM

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has the sensor gotten a new value?

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 7:34 PM

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I'm watching the sensor with MQTT.fx and its updating every 10 sec for debugging. I see an error:

Template variable warning: 'list object' has no attribute 'Temperature' when rendering ''

mighty ledge Sep 18, 2021, 7:35 PM

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ok, that's the error then

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and the info you posted wasn't correct

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 7:43 PM

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I don't understand what I posted wasn't correct. Is that a list of one item?

mighty ledge Sep 18, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Your json does not have a list, yet the error claims it is a list

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Tasmota supports (3) MAX81865 but there is only one connected.
I tried this with no change:
value_template: "{{ data['MAX31865-0'][0].Temperature }}"

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 7:52 PM

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well that won't work

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data is just what I called the variable that I used for your data

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 7:53 PM

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sorry I accidently pasted from the template tool

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 7:54 PM

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- service: persistent_notification.create
  data:
    message: "{{ value_json }}"

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add that to your action to see what it's actually getting

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 8:00 PM

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Pardon my noobiness but I am just defining sensors at this point. Can I add that to the sensor definition?

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 8:03 PM

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oh, sorry. then just use value_template: "{{ value_json }}"

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 8:10 PM

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@inner mesa Thanks its working now.

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thanks Petro

blissful copper Sep 18, 2021, 9:03 PM

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HI everybody. I'm just struggling with this single-line-templatecondition:
- condition: "{{ state_attr('cover.bedroomshutter', 'current_position') < 9 }}"

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it's producing the following error:
ERROR:homeassistant.config:Invalid config for [automation]: Unexpected value for condition: '{{ state_attr('cover.bedroomshutter', 'current_position') < 9 }}'. Expected and, device, not, numeric_state, or, state, sun, template, time, trigger, zone @ data['condition'][1]. Got None. (See /home/homeassistant/.homeassistant/configuration.yaml, line 58).

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Funny thing: The same in the "classic-format" is working:
- condition: template value_template: > {{ state_attr('cover.bedroomshutter', 'current_position') < 9 }}

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 9:08 PM

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How do I concatenate a character and MQTT value in YAML?
this is what I am trying to do:
unit_of_measurement: "°{{ value_json['MAX31865-0'].TempUnit }}"

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 9:09 PM

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that doesn't work?

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 9:11 PM

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it returns:
64.19 °{{ value_json['MAX31865-0'].TempUnit }}

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 9:17 PM

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oh, you can't have a dynamic unit_of_measurement

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 9:21 PM

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really?

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I am still curious how I can combine the character and MQTT value together in YAML.

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 9:23 PM

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you can't generate a dynamic unit_of_measurement

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what you're doing would probably work fine if you did it where it is allowed

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 9:26 PM

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where is it allowed?

inner mesa Sep 18, 2021, 9:32 PM

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many places

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in service:, in a data: block, or wherever the docs say it is

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unit_of_measurement string (optional)
Defines the units of measurement of the sensor, if any.

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"string"

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compare and contrast with:

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value_template template (optional)
Defines a template to extract the value. Available variables: entity_id. The entity_id can be used to reference the entity’s attributes.

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"template"

fresh vortex Sep 18, 2021, 9:54 PM

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ok I have a lot of reading to do

fresh vortex Sep 19, 2021, 3:02 AM

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I am trying to set up a MQTT automation trigger and I can't get it to trigger.
https://www.codepile.net/pile/e9jXxopb

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 3:15 AM

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Your quotes in the condition are broken

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First, you have two sets of quotes surrounding the template and second you need to mix the quotes inside and outside

fresh vortex Sep 19, 2021, 3:26 AM

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I tried using the visual editor and that what came out as YAML
like this?
value_template: "{{ trigger.payload == 'lockhouse' }}"

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Yes

fresh vortex Sep 19, 2021, 3:45 AM

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it still wont trigger

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 3:57 AM

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Follow the debugging tips in #automations-archived . Look at the trace

fresh vortex Sep 19, 2021, 4:12 AM

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@inner mesa thank you

silent barnBOT Sep 19, 2021, 2:52 PM

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@grand merlin posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/sasevagipe

grand merlin Sep 19, 2021, 2:54 PM

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Hi! not sure that the right place for my post but I'm using node red for presence notificaiton (using this code)

https://hastebin.com/oxaruceqir.json

the screenshot attached to the notification don't work at all but that because of CloudFlare access I think...

anyway how can I add this to my template so when I click on the notification, I actually open another app (UniFi Protect)
actions:
https://hastebin.com/jiqukapuni.yaml

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I tried this https://hastebin.com/duvigehone.json but that doesnt work

grand merlin Sep 19, 2021, 3:29 PM

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Ok so I don't think I can have both screenshot and link to a another app.... (the screenshot doesnt ever work anyway) so this seems to work https://hastebin.com/atobayixom.json

mighty ledge Sep 19, 2021, 3:54 PM

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grand merlin Hi! not sure that the right place for my post but I'm using node red for presenc...

It's not, this channel is for templates. You'd want #integrations-archived

grand merlin Sep 19, 2021, 3:55 PM

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mighty ledge It's not, this channel is for templates. You'd want <#672220541343760384>

thanks

hexed badger Sep 19, 2021, 4:44 PM

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I have a template condition like this: ```condition:

condition: template
value_template: '{{ trigger.json.key == ''goodvalue'' }}'``` is it possible to access the secrets.yaml? I want to have ''goodvalue'' be "!secret api_key" as it can be done in configuration.yaml

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I found this hack - but I don't like it -> https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-get-the-secret-value-into-template/270600/5

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 4:50 PM

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that's your option

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it seems pretty innocuous as hacks go...

willow belfry Sep 19, 2021, 5:46 PM

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Does anyone know whether Home Assistant publishes the total number of devices for a given integration as an entity? Or do I need to create a template for that?

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Specifically, I'd like to keep track of the total number of Zwave devices in my network.

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 5:53 PM

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You would need a template. This is the one I use:

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- platform: template
  sensors:
    zwave_status:
      value_template: "{{states|selectattr('entity_id', 'search', 'node_status')|selectattr('state', 'in', 'alive, asleep')|list|count}}/{{states|selectattr('entity_id', 'search', 'node_status')|list|count}}"
      friendly_name: ZWave Node Status

willow belfry Sep 19, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Am I crazy or is there no way to create Templates via the UI?

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Templates aren't a standalone thing. You use them in other things.

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You wouldn't 'create a template' in the UI.

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What are you trying to do?

dreamy knot Sep 19, 2021, 6:50 PM

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Was just working on this actually. You can put a template in the markdown card in Lovelace.

willow belfry Sep 19, 2021, 6:54 PM

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ivory delta What are you trying to do?

The goal is to create an automation that tracks the total number of Zwave devices and send a notification when that value drops below a specific number.

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 6:55 PM

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What is it with everyone tagging on replies tonight?

silent barnBOT Sep 19, 2021, 6:55 PM

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@willow belfry When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 6:55 PM

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If you want to add a template to an automation, there's nothing stopping you doing that. You can enter templates via the automations UI.

willow belfry Sep 19, 2021, 6:55 PM

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👍

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:23 PM

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inner mesa `{{ states|selectattr('entity_id', 'match', 'input_number..*temp')|map(attribute...

this is really cool, been looking for a 'contains' filter since forever, and this comes really close. Not 100% clear on the workings though. eg using {{ expand('group.z_wave_switches')|selectattr('entity_id', 'match', '.freezer*') |map(attribute='entity_id')|list}} on a group that contains 2 switches with that phrase, the template returns [].

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I seem to have to add the domain like selectattr('entity_id', 'match', 'switch.freezer*') to have it return those 2 switches. is that expected behavior?

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Yes... match vs search.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:25 PM

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it gets even stranger, with selectattr('entity_id', 'match', 'switch.f*') it lists all switches... including many that dont use the 'f' at all

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:26 PM

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Yes... because that's what you told it to find.

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https://regex101.com/

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If you're going to use RegEx, learn how to use RegEx

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 7:30 PM

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‘switch.f*’ matches switches that start with zero or more f characters

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There’s general and understandable confusion between normal globbing and regex

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:32 PM

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and why would selectattr('entity_id', 'search', '.fre*') result in ```[
"switch.freezer_bijkeuken",
"switch.freezer_garage",
"switch.front_room"
]

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because the search is looking for 0 or more e'? in this case 0...

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Because you're telling it to find 'any character, followed by f, followed by r, followed by e zero or more times'

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Put your pattern into regex101 and it'll break it down for you.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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Ok, I see.

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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What you’re using * for requires ‘.*’

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:33 PM

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The funny thing about solving a problem with RegEx is that you now have two problems.

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Try this as your search term for me?
^(.+)+$

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:34 PM

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ivory delta Because you're telling it to find 'any character, followed by f, followed by r, ...

yes, and they don't have t be concatenated, but have to be in that order?

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:34 PM

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Yes... you wrote it in that order.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:35 PM

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ivory delta Try this as your search term for me? ```^(.+)+$```

it lists all entities

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:35 PM

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Seriously... if you want to use RegEx, learn RegEx. It's powerful but it's complicated... and there's no easy way to figure out what it does other than reading a proper guide.

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You could give thousands of examples here and ask us what they do, and still be no better at it. You need to understand the syntax... which regex101 also teaches.

mighty ledge Sep 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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It’s super complicated

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Once you learn it tho

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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Once you know the syntax... it's easy to come up with patterns of your own.

mighty ledge Sep 19, 2021, 7:36 PM

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It’s great if you don’t care about Speed

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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There's this simple RegEx that tons of software uses:
(?:[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+(?:\.[a-z0-9!#$%&'*+/=?^_`{|}~-]+)*|"(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21\x23-\x5b\x5d-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])*")@(?:(?:[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?\.)+[a-z0-9](?:[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9])?|\[(?:(?:(2(5[0-5]|[0-4][0-9])|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9]))\.){3}(?:(2(5[0-5]|[0-4][0-9])|1[0-9][0-9]|[1-9]?[0-9])|[a-z0-9-]*[a-z0-9]:(?:[\x01-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f\x21-\x5a\x53-\x7f]|\\[\x01-\x09\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x7f])+)\])

mighty ledge Sep 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Marius, it’s not something you’ll learn quick

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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for my usage now, Ill use something like 'daystart' and its pretty unlikely it will find anything other than containing that phrase 😉

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Even as a somewhat-capable developer, it took a long time for RegEx to 'click' for me.

mighty ledge Sep 19, 2021, 7:37 PM

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Ya

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Well, the prt that had to click was the reading the documentation and understanding it

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Kinda happens in stages too:

learn to read basic patterns
learn to write basic patterns
learn when to use those patterns instead of other programmatic approaches
learn more complex patterns
repeat

mighty ledge Sep 19, 2021, 7:38 PM

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Those online testers are awesome for learning g it

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Practise too, like doing RegEx crosswords 😂 https://regexcrossword.com/

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Boss: are you playing games again?
Me: nope, practising my RegEx skills.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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i like/use it to auto create lists with entities, so I can use those in a group, by simply copying that, (since we can no longer do that in the dev states, because of the listed friendly names)

mighty ledge Sep 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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Tbh tho, I’ll still just Google crap that other people do then add/remove what I need

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:39 PM

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This is the way.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 7:43 PM

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may I ask a final one before I go retreat an study all that... 'freez*power' in dev states returns all entities I need, but no matter what I try in the regex template, it returns an empty list..

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 7:47 PM

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again, "*" represents 0 or more of the previous character. Is that what you want?

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0 or more z characters, in that case

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I'll repeat: https://discordapp.com/channels/330944238910963714/672223497736421388/889232786173591582

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 7:50 PM

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And I'll repeat... use regex101 to figure it out.

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Get your pattern right before you try applying it somewhere.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 8:01 PM

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inner mesa again, "*" represents 0 or more of the previous character. Is that what you wan...

yes, I want it to find all entities with the words freezer and power, and anything in between those 2. But ill need to dig further to get the pattern right

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 8:02 PM

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Rob told you what to change.

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.* means 'any character zero or more times`.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 8:02 PM

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'sensor.freez.*power' !, or even 'freez.*power'

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yes, thank you!

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 8:02 PM

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And you'd know what to do if you bothered reading the guidance on regex101 and used it as a playground to test your pattern against potential matches.

floral shuttle Sep 19, 2021, 8:06 PM

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I will, believe me. For now, I have found the replacement for my much desired 'contains' filter!

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:06 PM

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hello, has anyone got an example of a time arithmetic template? I'm looking to find the hours and minutes from current time to 12:30am.

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so far i've got two lines, but I dont think they're compatible in this form

{{ as_timestamp(strptime("12:30", "%I:%M")) }}```

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 8:09 PM

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kinda a pain the ass because it cross the date boundary

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either it will, or it won't, so you need to be careful

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:11 PM

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I could quite happily get whatever value it is to midnight and then add 30 mins

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 8:11 PM

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and if it's between midnight and 12:30...

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:11 PM

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then, i'll be in bed and wont look 🙂

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 8:12 PM

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{{ now().replace(hour=23, minute=59, second=59) - now() }}

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:13 PM

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it's for a quick reference on a dashboard so i can set the dishwasher delay to be in the cheap energy window, which starts at 12:30am

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 8:25 PM

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I hate this, but it works:

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{% set delta = now().replace(hour=23, minute=59, second=59) - now() %}
{% set hours = (delta.total_seconds()/3600)|float %}
{% set minutes = (hours % 1) * 60 %}
{{ hours|int ~ ":" ~ minutes|int }}

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:29 PM

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thank you! why the hate?

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just a bit clunky?

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 8:32 PM

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yes. I was hoping that I could just do delta.hour and delta.minute

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as you can with a datetime, but can't with a timedelta

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I hate this ever so slightly less:

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  {% set delta = ((now().replace(hour=23, minute=59, second=59) - now())|string).split(":") %}
  {{ delta[0] ~ ":" ~ delta[1] }}

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:35 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/issues/185#issuecomment-726056040

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does this apply?

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I don't see how

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:37 PM

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ok, i just thought it might be related 🤷‍♂️

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 8:44 PM

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{% set delta = (((now().replace(hour=0, minute=30, second=0) + timedelta(days=1 if not (0 <= now().hour < 1 and now().minute < 30) else 0)) - now())|string).split(':') %}
{{ delta[0] ~ ":" ~ delta[1] }}

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that takes care of the day split

mint crane Sep 19, 2021, 8:52 PM

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very good work! thank you!

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 9:04 PM

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{% set delta = ((now().replace(hour=0, minute=30, second=0) + timedelta(days=1 if now().strftime('%H:%M') > '00:30' else 0) - now())|string).split(':') %}
{{ "%s:%s"|format(delta[0], delta[1]) }}

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not sure if it's getting better, or just different

ivory delta Sep 19, 2021, 9:10 PM

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This isn't even its final form.

inner mesa Sep 19, 2021, 9:19 PM

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{% set delta = ((now().replace(hour=0, minute=30, second=0) + timedelta(days=(now().strftime('%H:%M') <= '00:30')|int) - now())|string).split(':') %}
{{ "%s:%s"|format(delta[0], delta[1]) }}

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too many parentheses

deep shoal Sep 20, 2021, 12:57 AM

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Hi!

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I am just starting to explore templating in more detaild and had a syntax question for the folks here.

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I have multiple template sensor lines in my config.yaml, and I am not sure if that is the most efficient way to write it.

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The code is working.

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platform: template
sensors:
left_garage_status:
- platform: template
  sensors:
  car_status:

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The question is whether I include only one -platform: template and then nest the sensurs under that. Or perhaps one -platform: template and sensors, and then nest everything under that.

inner mesa Sep 20, 2021, 1:02 AM

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It doesn’t matter

deep shoal Sep 20, 2021, 1:12 AM

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If you wanted to simplify how would you?

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Okay, meaning could I have one template and one sensor and nest everything under it?

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Thank you!

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e.g.:

platform: template
sensors:
sensor#1 YAML.....
sensor#2 YAML.....

inner mesa Sep 20, 2021, 1:19 AM

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it really doesn't matter

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I have both

deep shoal Sep 20, 2021, 1:25 AM

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Okay, thank you.

tribal pelican Sep 20, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Good morning i use the platform teleinfo and i would like to perform some calculations with the input data i did setup the lambda like this but “unavailable” is not recognized somebody-may help me?

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platform: template
name: "Conso du jour HC Blue"
id: today_hc_blue_consumption
unit_of_measurement: "Wh"
icon: mdi:moon-waning-crescent
update_interval: 3600s
lambda: !lambda |-
if (id(edf_hcjb), unavailable) {unavailable;} else {return ( (id(edf_hcjb).state-id(yesterday_hc_blue_consumption).state) / 1000);}

fossil venture Sep 20, 2021, 6:48 AM

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tribal pelican - platform: template name: "Conso du jour HC Blue" id: today_hc_blue_con...

Home Assistant has no lambda option. Are you talking about ESPHome? If so:

silent barnBOT Sep 20, 2021, 6:48 AM

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ESPHome is a system to control your ESP8266/ESP32, with a native integration for Home Assistant.

You can find their documentation here, and get help with ESPHome itself here in the #diy-archived channel (#integrations-archived for the Home Assistant side integration with it). They also have their own Discord server too.

tribal pelican Sep 20, 2021, 8:06 AM

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Yes Esphome

fossil venture Sep 20, 2021, 8:56 AM

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tribal pelican Yes Esphome

Then there are better places to ask listed in that bot message.

earnest cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:14 PM

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I want to trigger a script only if two conditions are met. Something seems to be troubleseome here

script:
...
  sequence:                       
    - service: >
        {% if is_state('binary_sensor.dark_inside', 'on') and is_state('light.lys_grunnbelysning', 'off') %}
        script.lys_grunnbelysning_on
        {% endif %}

marble jackal Sep 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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Put it in a condtion instead of a service call

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You will end up with an empty service call this way, if the conditions are not met, and that will give errors

earnest cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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I need to continue after this 🙂

marble jackal Sep 20, 2021, 7:18 PM

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then use a choose:

earnest cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Ah!
So if these two conditions ar met as one choose: statemennt and tha last (now a condition) as the second choose: , then?

charred dagger Sep 20, 2021, 7:22 PM

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- do something
- choose:
  - conditions: "{{ is_state() and is_state() }}"
    sequence:
      - call service
- do something else```

marble jackal Sep 20, 2021, 7:23 PM

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  sequence:
    - choose:
        - conditions: "{{ is_state('binary_sensor.dark_inside', 'on') and is_state('light.lys_grunnbelysning', 'off') }}"
          sequence:
            - service: script.lys_grunnebelysning_on
    - service: whatever
``` but thomas was faster

earnest cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Thank you, @charred dagger 🙂

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Ha, ha.. What a race!!!

charred dagger Sep 20, 2021, 7:24 PM

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but thomas was faster
I cheated

earnest cosmos Sep 20, 2021, 7:24 PM

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and thank you @marble jackal

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Would end up like this, then ?

script:
  someone_coming_home:
    alias: '[House] - Someone coming home'
    sequence: 
      - choose:
        - conditions: "{{ is_state('binary_sensor.dark_inside', 'on') and is_state('light.lys_grunnbelysning', 'off') }}"
          sequence:
            - service: script.lys_grunnebelysning_on
      - condition: template      ## Continue only if one adult came home
        value_template: "{{ is_state('person.pal', 'home') or is_state('person.eva', 'home') }}"
      - service: script.adults_coming_home

fossil venture Sep 21, 2021, 2:50 AM

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Hassbot does not like it but I can't see anything wrong with it.

charred dagger Sep 21, 2021, 6:32 AM

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Hassbot never liked comments, I think. ```yaml

Perfectly valid yaml

a:

1
2

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Or maybe it does.

rugged laurel Sep 21, 2021, 6:57 AM

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What we see now is valid, what @silent barn reacted to was not, the post was edited.

charred dagger Sep 21, 2021, 7:52 AM

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Right. Good eye.

ionic briar Sep 21, 2021, 9:45 AM

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Trying to setup a quick light automation ahead of traveling to simulate presence. Was thinking of using the On_off schedule template but it needs a specific time, I'd like to specify "sunset" as the ON trigger and a specific time for the OFF. I assume this can be done in the YAML, can I use the sun.sun next_dusk: '2021-09-21T17:44:06.631221+00:00' attribute somehow?

nocturne chasm Sep 21, 2021, 11:26 AM

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{{ state_attr('sun.sun', 'next_dawn') }}

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Depending on what you want to do.

ivory delta Sep 21, 2021, 11:30 AM

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Or just use the sunset trigger... but see #automations-archived for that.

marsh yoke Sep 21, 2021, 1:05 PM

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im trying to implement a delay based on an input_number (in minutes) {{ states("input_number.minutes") | int }} the value is 35 delay: '{{ states("input_number.minutes") | multiply(60) | int }}' gives me 2100 - what is the coreect template i would beed to set the delay for minutes? multiply(1000) | multiply(60) correct?

fossil venture Sep 21, 2021, 1:48 PM

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{{ states("input_number.minutes") | int * 60 }}

marsh yoke Sep 21, 2021, 1:58 PM

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thanks

ionic briar Sep 21, 2021, 5:04 PM

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nocturne chasm Depending on what you want to do.

Worked like a charm!

odd flare Sep 21, 2021, 5:38 PM

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is this the correct format for an if statement to convert 1 and 2 to Source A and B? value_template: >- {% if is_state( (value | int) , '1') %} Source A {% else %} Source B {% endif %}

inner mesa Sep 21, 2021, 5:54 PM

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not like that - you're using value where an entity_id should be, converting the value to an int and then comparing with a string

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it can be done more compactly like this:

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value_template: "{{ 'Source A' if value == '1' else 'Source B' }}"

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without knowing where value is coming from or what it's type is, of course

odd flare Sep 21, 2021, 6:15 PM

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inner mesa without knowing where `value` is coming from or what it's type is, of course

it's an SNMP sensor: ```sensor:

platform: snmp
name: HomeLab ATS Selected Source
host: IP
community: public
baseoid: 1.3.6.1.4.1.318.1.1.8.5.1.2.0
value_template: "{{ 'Source A' if value == '1' else 'Source B' }}"

inner mesa Sep 21, 2021, 6:16 PM

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it's still unclear what type value will be

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but you can try that, or use value_template: "{{ 'Source A' if value == 1 else 'Source B' }}" if it comes in as an int

odd flare Sep 21, 2021, 6:18 PM

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It will return an integer thats 1 or 2

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INTEGER {sourceA(1),sourceB(2)}

inner mesa Sep 21, 2021, 6:19 PM

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ok. you have some examples

odd flare Sep 21, 2021, 6:19 PM

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i can use snmpget to sample the comms

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iso.3.6.1.4.1.318.1.1.8.5.1.2.0 = INTEGER: 1

inner mesa Sep 21, 2021, 6:20 PM

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it's not that complicated

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does it work?

odd flare Sep 21, 2021, 6:20 PM

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going to try it now

odd flare Sep 21, 2021, 6:30 PM

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inner mesa does it work?

thanks, that worked

mighty ridge Sep 22, 2021, 3:05 PM

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Hi all. Is it possible to manually fire off an event? Specifically, entering a zone? I want to test my templating for when someone enters the zone then it will pass trigger.id to condition and I want the condition to verify certain things for each user. I've tried changing the person's state from not_home to home or to the name of one of the zones, but no luck.

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 3:25 PM

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you can definitely do that from devtools -> States

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"entering a zone" is no different from the state of a device_tracker changing to the name of a zone

mighty ridge Sep 22, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Ok so to expand on that, what is the state it should be in?

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 3:35 PM

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what trigger are you using?

mighty ridge Sep 22, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Oh, wait, the state should just be the zone, right?

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State: wba

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or state: burns

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right?

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 3:35 PM

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if you're just changing the device_tracker yes

mighty ridge Sep 22, 2021, 3:35 PM

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person.myname

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 3:35 PM

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but that depends on what trigger you're using for the zone triggering

mighty ridge Sep 22, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Enters zone

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 3:36 PM

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please post it

mighty ridge Sep 22, 2021, 3:40 PM

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hmm it wont let me upload as a file, I'll try pastebin or is a screen shot ok?

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https://pastebin.com/NwswP7Fu

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Can see if that works

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 3:52 PM

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well, your syntax is wrong for sure

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{% if trigger.id == 'triggerjimbob' %}

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but, to test those zone triggers, you need to force the state change on person

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so set the device_tracker state to equal the zone friendly name

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and that should propagate to your person

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is_state( only gets an entities state. Trigger is not an entity

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:04 PM

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I'm getting repeat errors, that I don't understand. Does this mean the sensor doesn't have a state defined?

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How do I do formatting again?

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:04 PM

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3 backticks

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:04 PM

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 Logger: homeassistant.helpers.template
Source: helpers/template.py:1496
First occurred: September 20, 2021, 1:50:58 PM (2591 occurrences)
Last logged: 9:00:02 AM

Template variable error: 'state' is undefined when rendering '{{ state('sensor.power_home_123_1d')|float}}'

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:05 PM

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it's states() not state()

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:05 PM

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haha

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thank you

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the 3 backslashes didn't seem to work

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:05 PM

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backtick is not backslash

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`

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back tick

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\

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back slash

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Thank you!

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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np

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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So I just need to change it to states?

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    - name: "Total Power Usage"
      state_class: total_increasing
      unit_of_measurement: kWh
      device_class: energy
      state: >
        {{ state('sensor.power_home_123_1d')|float}}

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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yep

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Awesome

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:06 PM

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although, what you're doing is pointless

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Why is that?

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:07 PM

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because you aren't performing math on the state, so all you're doing is replicating the state into another entity

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if you need to add or change attributes to your existing entity, use customization

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Oh, I think I was doing that while my source entity wasn't updated to a total increasing yet.

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but I think the latest update fixed that.

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I'll delete the sensor. Thanks for the reminder.

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Anyone have experience creating something to display power usage of something outside of the energy dashboard?

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I want to see if it's worth running my miner based on power usage or not.

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So I think I need to create two sensors then a third one to do the math for the total

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one for off peak and one for peak

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I said power usage, but I meant power cost.

mortal ruin Sep 22, 2021, 4:31 PM

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I guess the part I don't understand is if it will store the data correctly

thorny snow Sep 22, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Hello there,

I have these two sensors where in the templates tab it shows them as I wish, that is, one per line.

If, however, later when I create the entity card it shows it to me immediately, do you know why it can be?

mortal heart Sep 22, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Hello all, its been a few years since ive been in the HA stuff.. had a good amount of stuff configured back in 18, then deployed, came home and my box was dead, and no backups, and decided just to go Hubitat, but now ive decided to come back.. anyhow I cant remember for the life of me how to create a binary sensor from my locks. Example I just want an entity card to show lock status but not interactive.

    sensors:
       front_door_status:
        friendly_name: Front Door
        icon_template: >
          {% if is_state('lock.front_door','locked') %} mdi:door 
          {% else %} mdi:door-open
          {% endif %}```

thorny snow Sep 22, 2021, 4:35 PM

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`{{ (states('sensor.unauto')) }}

{{ 'Linea' + ((states('sensor.unauto')).split('Línea')[1]) + 'Linea' + ((states('sensor.unauto')).split('Línea')[2]) }}`

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and output is:

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Línea L92 4 minutos
Línea L91 8 minutos
Línea L92 17 minutos
Línea L62 19 minutos
Línea L91 23 minutos
Línea L62 39 minutos
Línea L92 54 minutos

Linea L92 4 minutos
Linea L91 8 minutos

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but the sensor then shows it to me in a row, without a line break

Line L92 3 minutes Line L91 6 minutes

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How are the images inserted in discord?

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:39 PM

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imgur

thorny snow Sep 22, 2021, 4:42 PM

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https://imgur.com/A1rnKmk

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https://imgur.com/O8xPDtA

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:43 PM

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whitespace carrage returns are removed from states

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if you want to display that, use markdown card

thorny snow Sep 22, 2021, 4:45 PM

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ok, i will try it

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 4:47 PM

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mortal heart Hello all, its been a few years since ive been in the HA stuff.. had a good amou...

just copy the same template that you have for the icon, but return on or off. Put it under the value_template field

thorny snow Sep 22, 2021, 4:50 PM

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mighty ledge if you want to display that, use markdown card

Indeed it shows it well, but I imagine that here you can not put icons and others

mortal heart Sep 22, 2021, 6:03 PM

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mighty ledge just copy the same template that you have for the icon, but return on or off. ...

thanks, now just to remember where i put it .lol

mighty ledge Sep 22, 2021, 6:04 PM

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mortal heart thanks, now just to remember where i put it .lol

In value_template field. Look at the examples in the docs

mortal heart Sep 22, 2021, 6:06 PM

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oh yea I think i got that , I have to go digging to remember whereei put in my yamls..lol its been a while. but ill get it all sorted.

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   sensors:
      front_door_status:
       friendly_name: Front Door
       value_template: >
         {% if is_state('front_door_lock','on') %}  ```

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I was doing this on a blank Viscual code from as much memory as I could .

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though these days the memory is shot

mortal heart Sep 22, 2021, 6:23 PM

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got it 🙂

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 6:42 PM

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👍 There are a few things broken in there..

tribal fossil Sep 22, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Anyone have a pointer as to why I'm getting TypeError: first argument must be string or compiled pattern when doing something like {% set inputs = states.input_boolean %} {% if inputs | list | count > 0 %} {{ inputs | map(attribute='entity_id')|join(',')}} {% endif %}

ivory delta Sep 22, 2021, 7:58 PM

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What does inputs evaluate to on the third line?

tribal fossil Sep 22, 2021, 8:01 PM

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It should be the DomainStates for inputs_boolean, no?

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As I'm uidnerstanding the templates, I saying give me all input_booleans as inputs. If there are more than 0 then map the entity_ids and join them with ,

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The actual logic will be filtering down the input_booleans, but I was just trying super basic for testing.

ivory delta Sep 22, 2021, 8:08 PM

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I'm not asking what you think it does. I'm asking you what it actually does.

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Find out what the output of inputs is on the third line.

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:34 PM

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my automation aint working... the trace shows Error: In 'template' condition: AttributeError: 'mappingproxy' object has no attribute 'lower' however i don't see where i call "lower":

  - condition: template
    value_template: >-
      {{ is_state_attr(trigger.event.data.new_state.attributes, "icon",
      "mdi:memory") }}```

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for reference

  - platform: event
    event_type: state_changed
    event_data:
      entity_id: sensor.memory_use_percent

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:35 PM

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The first argument to is_state_attr is an entity_id

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:37 PM

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oh, ok so i should just access trigger.event.data.new_state.attributes directly?

tribal fossil Sep 22, 2021, 8:37 PM

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ivory delta Find out what the output of `inputs` is on the third line.

Ah. Sorry, brain was in work teaching mode. It does return the DomainStates <template DomainStates('input_boolean')> which if I pipe to the mapattribute it returns the Generator.

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:37 PM

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if your goal is to get the icon attribute, then trigger.event.data.new_state.attributes.icon

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:38 PM

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ok, and i guess i need to guard against new_state then being None

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:38 PM

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if you want to do the same test, then just use trigger.event.data.entity_id as the first parameter

tribal fossil Sep 22, 2021, 8:39 PM

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So everything seems like it should be fine. It's just....not when it's inside of the if. Outside it seems to work just fine. 🤔

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:39 PM

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add |list to something that returns a generator to see the elements

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:39 PM

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right but that would always be the new state, so i cant do that if i want to reference the old state?

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:40 PM

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that's just old_state

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refer to what you want

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:40 PM

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so how would i do that with trigger.event.data.entity_id and is_state_attr?

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:40 PM

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that all seems overly complicated. why can't you just use a state trigger?

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

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i was under the impression it wouldn't fire when only attributes change?

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

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incorrect

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

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ok, i was mislead by the docs then

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

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it says it does in like the first paragraph of the docs

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

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ah, misread that sentence

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:41 PM

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If only entity_id is given, the trigger will fire for all state changes, even if only state attributes change.****

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

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right, i misread it as it wouldn't do it if only attribs change, silly brain

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 8:42 PM

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np, it's not intuitive

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:46 PM

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well, it certainly could do with a lot more consolidation of the docs and a lot more relevant examples

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open source, so yeah i know 🙂

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that said, i must admit the new automation ui has improved massively since last time i fooled around, which is great

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 8:49 PM

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hi, I am trying to integrate a switch, and I think what I need is to make a template

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the device has a URL to switch on, another to switch off, and a third URL to get the state, which retirns a small piece of html

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I took a look at REST, but it seems to be all based on json

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I just need a few pointers to get started

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also, each board can have up to 6 switches, but I just want to get 1 working to start

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maybe I dont even need a template I am not sure

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the only variable really is the IP address, and the button number

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there are other URLs for setting a timer and so on but I can add those in later

worthy venture Sep 22, 2021, 8:54 PM

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@inner mesa ok, that seems to work, cheers!

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 8:55 PM

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ideally I would jst enter the IP address and the automation would figure out the number of buttons

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it also supports MQTT, so if that would be a better option, I could use that, though it seems a bit more complicated to get started with, but in future it might be the way to go

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to set the state it is something like sending PUT to http://ip_address/avtion/button=1&state=1|0

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1 or 0

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and to read the state, something like send a GET to http://ip_addr/read?button=1

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that would be enough to get me started

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just not sure how to write that in a template

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:06 PM

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you don't use a template

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:06 PM

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ah OK

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:07 PM

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templates don't do anything - they manipulate data that already exists in the HA state machien

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:07 PM

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I see, so what would I use instead ?

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:08 PM

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something like this, perhaps: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/switch.command_line/

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using curl

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:08 PM

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that's a template though

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you just said I shouldnt use templates

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:08 PM

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it is not

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how is it a template?

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the only mention of a template is interpreting the output of the status call

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:10 PM

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well OK, its a config script

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:10 PM

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templates aren't just "virtual things of any sort" - it's a technical term for Jinja

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it's not a script either

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:10 PM

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but I dont want to have to edit the config file each time I add a new switch

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:10 PM

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that's your option

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:10 PM

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I just want to put in the ip address and give it a name

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:10 PM

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there's no such thing

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you have to configure it like that

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:11 PM

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eh ?

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cant I add something like a switch class ?

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seems a very awkward way of doing things

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:11 PM

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there's no place in the UI to just put an IP address and have it behave you've described

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what you're doing is a very custom thing

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:11 PM

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well to me it would make sense

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:11 PM

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normally, there would be an integration that would do the work and expose the switch

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:12 PM

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make a switch template with name and ip address as variables

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:12 PM

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that's just not the way HA works

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:12 PM

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have it show a UI where I can ipnuyt those values, and then the template would add it to the config

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:12 PM

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you can create a command line switch, as I linked

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:12 PM

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I mean that is how I would do it

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:12 PM

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an integration could certainly be written to do exactly that, it just doesn't exist

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that I'm aware of, at least. it's not a native thing

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:13 PM

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well yes I am hoping to make a HACS integration from this

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:13 PM

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it would be fairly easy to do that

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:14 PM

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OK, I mean right now Iam just testing...proof of concept if you like

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:14 PM

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https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/development_index/

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:15 PM

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thanks...just getting started with this, its a bit hard to know where to start

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so thanks for that

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:15 PM

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#devs_core-archived can answer questions

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:16 PM

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thanks a lot !

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so for now I should just start with edit the config and put in the command line bits right ?

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I thenk that will add the device automatically ?

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after a restart ?

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:17 PM

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~check first

silent barnBOT Sep 22, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

HAOS & Supervised use ha core check
Container uses docker commands
Core requires you to activate the venv first

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:17 PM

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but yes, it will create a switch entity

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:18 PM

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OK, and then - sorry if it is abit off topic, but there was no example there to read a state back in teh commandline docs

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ahh no

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it has a check, value == 1

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so what I need is actually something like a grep

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:19 PM

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that's what the state command line is for and the value_template

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a template can do a regex search

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:19 PM

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dearch_String ?

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search_string ?

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:20 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/configuration/templating/#regular-expressions?

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:20 PM

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so it is a template !!

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lol

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:20 PM

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search and match

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a tiny bit of it, yes

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:20 PM

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I wasnt entirely off topic then

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OK I ll try and figure it out from here

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:21 PM

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and even that part is optional 🙂

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:21 PM

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👍

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:30 PM

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silent barn

that isn't necessary any more, in the GUI, you can just go to Configuration / Server Controls and click on Check Configuration

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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that is incorrect

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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which just told me I shouldn't use Tabs in scripts

inner mesa Sep 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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that's why the first sentence is this:

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Always run the configuration check command when you make changes. Don't trust the UI check - it misses some problems.

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 9:31 PM

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ah I see

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sorry my eyesight isnt what it used to be

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too many hours of staring at hi resolution monitros I guess

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my typing skills are also on the decline....as you can see

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shoddy keyboards are partly to blame for that, hard to find a decent one these days

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 10:05 PM

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yikes ! config check is failing

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it's looking for /root/.homeassistant

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which is non existent

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the instructions are totally cryptic "If your container name is something other than homeassistant, change that part in the examples below."

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I have no idea what the container name is, or even if it is running in a container

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it says in Info "docker: true" so I guess it must be, no idea whatthe name is though

ivory delta Sep 22, 2021, 10:19 PM

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If you're using Docker, you named the container. Unless you're using something shitty like Portainer to do it for you.

pseudo plume Sep 22, 2021, 10:20 PM

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Im using odroid